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Ben 10
Ben 10
- In Ben 10 episode "Kevin 11", Ben gets persuaded to sneak into a warehouse and steal a new video game before it's released. Suddenly, police in full SWAT gear arrive in cruisers and helicopters, and immediately start attacking with tear gas and bullets. This is so extreme, it doesn't just break the Willing Suspension of Disbelief — it kills it, stomps on it a few times, cuts it up into little pieces, incinerates it, scatters the ashes, and desecrates the memorial site.
- Everyone noticed it. The commentary for the episode notes "Sumo Slammer games must have really, really tight security!" Of course, it could be theorized that the police were there due to Kevin's presence and not because of the video game; who knows how long that little psycho had been causing trouble with his powers?
- The computer-that-wasn't-broken from "Ready To Rumble." What the Fuck, Gwen?
- "Don't Drink the Water" left a massive Plot Hole. It has Ben and Grandpa Max being de-aged by them being soaked in the water of a carnival dunking booth that turned out to be water from the fountain of youth. Thing was, in the context of the plot, there was no reason for the water to be in the booth in the first place.
- It was Fridge Brilliance: the person who was running the booth needed to keep taking the water to be immortal. Being dunked in the booth a few times a day would cover it. He just got hit with the Idiot Ball and caused other people to get hit with it.
Alien Force
- Ben 10 Alien Force has its own when one sees that all of a sudden the characters are fighting their grandma, with lethal power being used on both sides. Only Kevin, who is not related to her, is worried. It's all forgiven as if it were nothing even though they fought with enough power to kill her and vice versa. Yeah, they were trying to stop her from forcing her way on her granddaughter, but there was no need for either side to use force if they have a good relationship.
- They decided in that episode that Gwen was part alien and didn't have magic powers. Okay, but later in the series, she's using magic books, with some half-assed excuse for it about Anodites and "mana". Just make up your minds, guys!
- Worse, Gwen is 1/4 Anodite. 1/4. Yet somehow, she is able to transform into a full Anodite and use all the full powers of an Anodite as well! How the hell do those kind of genetics WORK?
- Gwen's grandmother was Easily Forgiven. After she has already defeated Ben and Kevin and could have left, she attempts to kill them. Then Gwen appears and she realizes Gwen's her granddaughter and has alien powers. But she is more interested in Gwen's alien powers than in any familial relationship — Ben is her grandson, but she hardly cares. She attempts to destroy Gwen's body and kidnap her spirit - "the energy being within" - showing no regard for the wellbeing of her grandson. Gwen manages to talk her down, and she leaves on good terms. Nobody calls her out over trying to kidnap one grandchild and murder another. The kids were defending Gwen; the grandmother just wanted a new person on her planet.
- Grandma Verdona reappears way, way later, and she's still as much of a bitch as ever, totally dismissing her other granddaughter, Sunny, while telling Gwen she's "her favorite granddaughter" right in front of Sunny. Not only is this blatantly playing favorites, but it's extremely hypocritical. So Gwen, a goody-goody, mature, responsible girl, is her favorite over Sunny, a wild, out-of-control, hedonistic free spirit....even though the latter description is exactly what Verdona was...and in many ways still is? And she's supposed to be one of the good guys?
- The Retconning of the Plumbers from a defunct Earth organization dedicated to secret security of the planet against aliens to a massive, fully-active, galaxy-spanning police force. OK, well, if it's such a big, well-known presence throughout the universe, then why is it called the Plumbers, which would symbolize being an underground group, like it originally was when it was just limited to Earth! Why did the intergalactic Plumbers never do anything in the original series if they existed? And how can the Omnitrix symbol be the symbol of the Plumbers' badge when Azmuth, who created the Omnitrix, was an isolated hermit who didn't care about the rest of the universe, let alone it's laws?
- Vilgax's Badass and Villain Decay in the third and final season of Alien Force.
- Related to the aforementioned Retconning of the Plumbers, the 'Inferno' episode makes it pretty clear that the Earth is not top priority. Apparently the Plumbers have been keeping entirely terrestrial weirdness secret from humanity for reasons that are never explained and the Earth is purchased out from under the human race's feet.
Ultimate Alien
- Ben 10 Ultimate Alien already has one at the beginning of the second episode, in which Ben, while busy stopping the Forever Knights in an alien tech tank from robbing a museum, gets called by Gwen. Gwen has apparently decided that a tennis match is more important than stopping the Forever Knights from damaging artifacts, endangering lives, and getting some unknown thing. Then, everyone makes a huge deal of his showing up at the tennis match. She acts like it's his fault, claiming he made a grand entrance when all he did was walk in with his ticket. It was the announcer who made a big deal over his walking in.
- In the third episode, Kevin starts suggesting that they should kill villains that go after Ben's family. Now, this was probably done to make an overdue connection between post Heel Face Turn Kevin and pre Heel Face Turn Kevin, who was quite violent. The problem is that this isn't his family they're talking about! Kevin would be concerned for Ben's family, yes; but having him feel murderous anger toward the villains going after them when Ben and Gwen (who have reasons) don't? Killing his father's killer was one thing. Threatening to kill villains who aren't harming him on a personal level is another.
- In that same episode, Charmcaster is working for Zombozo as little more than a Mook. Given what we've seen of her before and especially given what we see of her later, this makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
- Speaking of Kevin and killing, he went crazy. As a result, Ben decides that he needs to be "put down". OK, WHAT?! Firstly, since when does Ben actively try to kill his enemies? Secondly, two episodes prior, Ben had a heartwarming talk with Kevin about how he's like an older brother to him. But he shows practically no inner conflict about killing Kevin!
- There's also Ben's hypocrisy saying that Kevin's out of control when he's viciously beating old enemies for info.
- Also, the reason Kevin went crazy. It's not because of his past as a sociopath or his troubled youth or any temptation to cross over to the "dark side". Nope, it's because his species goes insane whenever they absorb energy. Nothing bad he did then or now is his fault at all. What? Really, writers, is that the best explanation you can come up with for a character pulling a Heel Face Turn AND Face Heel Turn?
- Then came the season finale. Not only are the Andromeda aliens killed by Aggregor inexplicably revived; not only is Darkstar decayed as a threat; but also, after all that angst and Wangst concerning Kevin, Ben and Gwen fighting over what to do with him, Kevin committing atrocities, etc.... Kevin is restored to sanity, an apology and instant forgiveness follows, and everything is back to normal with the team. Really? Kevin just apologizes, and Ben forgives him after wanting to kill him so much? Gwen forgives him for raping...er, draining her of her powers? Kevin forgives Ben for wanting to kill him? He forgives HIMSELF for all he's done? No-one wanted Kevin to die; but if you're writing an epic, serious storyline, then you have to have consequences!
- Hey, wasn't it stated by the characters that the big thing to work on after the Aggregor (and then Kevin) situation was over with was finding a way back to the Magical Land to help Charmcaster? Why aren't we even getting a mention of that being worked on in Season 2?
- Oh, It Gets Worse. When they finally do get around to it, Charmcaster undergoes ungodly Character Derailment. Suddenly, wanting to bring her father back is her life's motivation rather than freeing her world, and is willing to commit mass genocide on her own world to do it! And all that progress she and Gwen made in their relationship? Charmcaster doesn't bring it up at all. In fact, she temporarily KILLS Gwen, the very thing she decided that she didn't want to do anymore in "Where The Magic Happens"! Status Quo Is God, eh, Ben 10 writers?
- Also, Charmcaster's father Spellbinder (and it's a wallbanger in of itself that he, a single soul, has to be ressurected with 600,000) gives his daughter a What the Hell, Hero? speech when he learns what she did, which is well deserved....but it's also terribly, needlessly harsh and cruel without any sort of understanding shown on Spellbinder's part. "How could you do something so evil? You're worse than Adwaitya ever was!" That's right, Spellbinder, just ignore all reasoning as to why your daughter did this. Ignore that she was left alone in the care of her abusive uncle throughout her life, that she was later stuck in this hellish realm for who knows how long, and that everyone tried to kill each other (and likely her) in an attempt to claim power after Adwaitya was deposed. Never mind how traumatized Hope's going to be when you say all this and then go back to being dead immediately afterward, with no words of encouragement for her to redeem herself, no reassurance that she's truly not as evil as the guy who killed you if she does so, or that things will get better for her even without you. But I guess True Art Is Angsty, so just let your daughter suffer! What wonderful parenting!
- Bringing Elena Validus and her father from the live action movie into the TV show just to kill them off. Seriously, what the hell? Julie being blatantly made out to be better than Elena in the episode also makes this a possible case of Derailing Love Interests.
- Oops, looks like Elena's not dead, she's back as a complete Yandere villain now, still being used as an Evil Counterpart to Julie, and willing to kill her and Ben. They're even making it clear that this is Elena doing this, NOT just the Swarm Queen possesing her. There's no "possible case" about it now, this is Derailing Love Interests.
- Pierce is killed by the Forever Knights, just so that they can be a bigger threat now. Such a casual throwing away of a character....it's a male version of Stuffed In The Fridge! Oh, and no-one ever finds out about it, and it's not spoken of again.
- Ben's defeat of a monster made from the "trash island" in the Pacific Ocean, after it's moved to the coast of San Francisco to get more trash. Since it's a Blob Monster he can't beat it conventionally. Then he sees that the waves in the ocean are eroding it. This inspires him to do the only logical thing: use Way Big (a giant alien) to run in a circle around the monster fast enough to create a tornado that hurls it into space on course for the Sun. This series has never been good with the laws of physics and tends to abuse New Powers as the Plot Demands, but this solution came right the fuck out of nowhere, kicked physics in the nuts, and pretty much gave a middle finger to any sense of rationality. Worst of all, it's a complete tangent to the observed weakness Ben was presumably trying to exploit.
- Vilgax's Not so Different speech toward Ben in the series finale. Really? Are we seriously supposed to believe that Ben is anything like Vilgax even though there's been no evidence of that at all before?
Codename: Kids Next Door
- One Codename Kids Next Door episode has Numbah One make a school report exposing the KND universe "origins", implying that A) Adults were created by children, B) "Families" are actually peaceful unities of adult-child coexistence and C) Children, apparently, don't grow up, since children and adult are different entities. This contradicts not only common sense but about 98% of the show's canon. And the end of the episode shows him to be right. No amount of Rule of Funny can ever justify the colossal Fridge Logic involved. Nigel also thought babies come from baby eggs...
- A REAL KND wallbanger would be Nigel staying in a relationship with Lizzie past her introduction, which involved her mind-controlling him to DESTROY his friends so that they could have time together. Easily Forgiven indeed!
- An even bigger wallbanger? She acts like the biggest completely spoiled whiny jealous kid throughout the entire series. Two particularly cranium-bashing examples are when the KND are trying to save recess and when Lizzie breaks up with Nigel. In the first one, Nigel gives a Rousing Speech about how kids should have the right to be able to go outside and be free to play and, well, be kids. Lizzie is moved to tears...because she thinks Nigel has decided to give up on his "silly" mission to have a "romantic dinner" with her. In the latter example, she breaks up with Nigel because he's not a "good enough" boyfriend for her because he's always off on missions (Oh, and we're supposed to feel sorry for her). No. Just... No. Numbah One is often risking his life for the sake of other kids, and yet we're supposed to feel bad for Lizzie just because he's not the boyfriend she wanted? Again, NO! If Lizzie wanted Nigel to stop being in the KND for his own safety, that would be one thing (As any boyfriend/girlfriend of someone with a very dangerous job can agree with that sentiment). But, being a whiny Jerkass towards him just because he's not dedicating his very being into being your "perfect boyfriend"? You don't deserve anyone, much less Nigel Uno.
- The episode where Numbuh 4's family are sent to live on the fake moon. Basically, in that episode it's revealed that the Apollo Moon Landing missions were faked because the KND can't let adults know about their Moon Base. Okay, this show does have a Conspiracy Kitchen Sink, but there are two problems with this. One is that the evil adults already know about the existence of the Moon Base so all they're doing is preventing the progress of humanity, as benign adults are the ones interested in space travel, which would also benefit children, and also, the more extreme problem is that it's explained that the Kids Next Door created a fake moon on Earth that they somehow managed not only to redirect all the rockets towards, but every single adult in both the American and Soviet space programs fell for it without question. This is despite the fact that the astronauts' radio transmissions would have given the location away. Then, once Numbuh 4 wants to rejoin his friends, the higher-ups engineer an "alien invasion" consisting of broomsticks with buckets on top, which the adults mistake for real aliens, so the adult space program decides to nuke the moon. What happens next is possibly the absolute lowest point in the series. The Kids Next Door destroy their fake moon site (after everyone is evacuated, of course) and then send a fake video to the adult space program which consists of a live action clip of Numbuh 3 popping a balloon. And the adults believe the balloon is the real moon. I know that this series has one of the strongest Extra Strength Masquerades in existence, but come on.
- There's also the bit of Fridge Logic that suggests that since they don't want adults to know about the moon base, they must have no idea what a telescope does.
- The end of Heinrich's ongoing story was most likely slapped together because the series was ending. That's the only explanation for how lousy it was. The cause of the feud between Numbah 5 and Heinrich as revealed to be because Heinrich didn't listen to Abigail when she warned him about eating magic caramel. Only, the truth is really "her" and "Henrietta". They did this so abruptly to Heinrich, it couldn't not be this.
- The Cross Over with The Grim Adventures Of Billy And Mandy where everyone is stupid enough to believe Mandy when she pretended to be Numbah One by just dressing like him.
Ed, Edd n Eddy
IMPORTANT NOTE: It's not a wall banger because the Eds (or your favorite character) got beat up. Please only put if the punishment was disproportionate or for a rather low reason.
- Ed, Edd n Eddy's crown example is "If It Smells Like an Ed." All fans should be aware of the episode...ALL. After Eddy (and Eddy ONLY) gave Jimmy a wedgie, everyone else laughs at him. To get revenge, Jimmy then targets all three Eds by framing them for stealing several neighborhood items. Unfortunately, the Eds are unable to clear their name and have to choose between getting beaten up by the other kids or getting attacked by the Kanker Sisters. They choose option A as the lesser of two evils, but end up getting both options because Jimmy DIDN'T THINK THEY SUFFERED ENOUGH.
- Another thing in this episode: when the paintbrush disappears, Sarah immediately assumes Ed took it despite lack of proof, and everyone else just goes with her.
- The episode "To Sir With Ed" has Nazz treating Eddy like a baby and sending him to bed for something he didn't even do. Nazz then has a party at Eddy's house without inviting him or asking permission from his parents...and she's supposed to be babysitting him.
- Nazz appears to be about the same age as Eddy, maybe a few months older. Getting a babysitter that's the same age as the person who she's watching is missing the point of babysitters. Early Installment Weirdness, but it's a pity.
- "A Town Called Ed." Say what you may want to about the Eds; but in this story, they only wanted to watch a monster truck marathon with the others. They try to point out that they own Peach Creek and so should be allowed to join them, but they get brushed off. It doesn't help that it turns out that the missing last page reveals that Eddy's ancestor bet it and lost to Lord Kanker.
- "Stop, Look, Ed": After deciding that rules are for fools, Eddy attempts to persuade everyone to break any rule whatsoever in order to have a good time. Naturally, Edd still wants to obey the rules. Near the end of the episode, Edd calls everyone's parents. After panicking, the kids imprison all 3 Eds in a net. Anyone else see what's wrong with that last sentence? That's right: Edd acted alone — he ADMITS it — but ALL the Eds are punished! How is that fair? It's almost as bad as "If It Smells Like an Ed" (ALMOST).
- Eddy seemed to have taken a hit from the Idiot Ball at the last minute. Out of either panic or loyalty he tried to defend Edd by saying he "broke a rule, like us." Still doesn't change the fact that Ed got caged with them even though he was pretty much oblivious to Edd's treachery until after Edd announced it.
- The show is prone to these for comedy. Sometimes, they sabotage themselves for no good reason. Like with the episode they were making tacos. Why would it have been so expensive to just buy some actual materials to make tacos, if they don't already have things like cheese and vegetables laying around their kitchens anyway? Or in one flashback, they broke Jimmy's jaw with a creampuff that just randomly had a bowling pin in it. What was the point of inserting that? If they have the time and materials for so many poor replicas of scam components, why don't they simply acquire the actual thing and be done with it?
- The fact that Double D is usually punished with Ed and Eddy. It's usually almost never his fault.
- "Postcards from the Ed": In that one, both Ed AND Edd are punished for Eddy's (and Eddy's alone) scam killing Plank's parents. In fact, both of the former tried to stop the latter. However, once Johnny 2x4 has discovered the accidental "murder", ALL THREE are literally up a tree, surrounded by mugsters Plank knows. While Eddy (as usual) deserved it, and Ed being punished could be justified as "betraying" Johnny's trust, EDD did absolutely NOTHING to deserve this retribution. He even tried to STOP him, as said before. But of course, like said before, he receives an unjustified punishing.
- The Halloween episode. Ed went around kicking the kids' asses because he saw one too many horror movies; Edd and Eddy STILL GET HURT BY IT. Eddy didn't even have a scam that episode; he just wanted to go to Spook-E-Ville. Double D did nothing wrong, as usual.
- And worst of all they didn't attack Ed whom was responsible for their injuries in the first place.
The Fairly Oddparents
- In the Reality Television parody episode of The Fairly OddParents, Timmy is allowed to say that he just considers Cosmo and Wanda tools to grant his wishes as a one-line throwaway gag, with no comeuppance... when in the entire rest of the series, his considering them his friends is considered important. Entire episodes, and even an entire movie, have revolved around the consequences of his forgetting this and treating them as tools.
- The Laser-Guided Amnesia at the end of the Wishology, which hits the Reset Button on a good deal of Character Development for the secondary characters.
- Also in the Wishology, whenever Timmy drives a motorcycle, he falls off and the motorcycle zooms ahead; but he's able to ride the Time Scooter and his cheap bike just fine in earlier episodes. In part two, almost everyone who is smart enough to make rockets is also dumb enough to send them up without being inside.
- When Timmy's parents were acting like Timmy was selfish for not wishing them up things, Cosmo and Wanda don't call them out on the fact that they've been neglecting him, even forgetting to take him on a family vacation earlier in the special. That is selfish of Cosmo and Wanda; sure, bad parents are job security for fairy godparents, but it's still a bad thing.
- A recent episode, "Manic Mom Day," had Wanda switch Timmy's brain with his Mom's as a way to show him a Mom's life is not easy. This would be more acceptable if the "Mom" was not Mrs. Turner, a woman who has openly spent her son's college fund on herself, who occasionally forgets to make him dinner, and who generally neglects him.
- In Seasons 6 and 7, Tootie was changed from a sympathetic character who suffered the same plight as Timmy to yet another annoyance/enemy that he has to face every day.
- Mr. Crocker was unable to recognize Cosmo, Wanda, and Poof as real fairies in the episode "Take & Fake." Let's repeat that: Mr. Crocker was unable to tell that FAIRY GODPARENTS!!! were floating right in front of him. Sure, they're at a costume party...but that's no excuse, considering that Crocker, of all people, should be able to recognize a fairy right away.
- Furthermore, he doesn't recognize Poof even though the episode takes place after "Bad Heir Day." Earth to Denzel, you know Denzel Jr. AKA DJ, aka Poof? That fairy whom you raised briefly as your own son and formed a loving bond with? He's! Floating! RIGHT! IN! FRONT! OF! YOU!
- In "Playdate of Doom", Foop escapes from Abracatraz and tricks Cosmo and Wanda into thinking that Jorgen authorized his release and that he's reformed and ready for a playdate with Poof. He then spends the episode tricking them into thinking Poof is misbehaving so they'll put Poof in a playpen that will send him to a pocket dimension. That Cosmo and Wanda would trust Foop, who had previously tried to destroy two worlds and kill Poof, anywhere near their son based on the (nonexistent) word of Jorgen destroys their credibility as parents. They never once suspect that Foop might be behind everything. Timmy finds out quickly and tries to warn them. Newsflash, Wanda, you're the Only Sane Being of this show, not Timmy!
- Crocker gets another one of these in the episode "Teacher's Pet". The episode itself was bad enough (seriously, what's with the mix-n-match critters instead of, ya know, an episode about being Crocker's pet?); but the BIGGEST Wall Banger is in the beginning when Crocker praises AJ for being a good student and then berates Timmy for being a poor student. This is Mr. Crocker we're talking about, right!? The SAME Mr. Crocker who used to love making kids miserable and handed out "F"s with absolute sadistic glee?! What happened to ya, man?
- The It's a Wonderful Plot subversion episode, "It's A Wishful Life." Many fans were turned off by this cruel subversion done by Jorgen Von Strangle to Timmy. Among the many ridiculous claims it made: without Timmy, A.J. would have a full head of hair, Francis would not be a grey skinned bully, Chester would have a triple wide trailer on gold blocks, and the Chicago Cubs would win the World Series. A number of fans view this episode as a Dethroning Moment of Suck.
- Timmy never considered asking to see what Tootie's life is like without him.
- "Spellementary School" aka "We hate Foop and we want you to know it". Poof is loved by everyone and ridiculous levels of Sue/Stuism, the running gag is - literally - "Foop, spelled backwards" in order to crush every possibility for Foop to feel better, inflicting Status Quo at the end for no good reason other than not having to write a better plot, and at the end, he gets beat up by Cosmo with a shovel.
- The episode "Twistory" has a huge Wall Banger going against it. Long story short, the episode revolves around Timmy bringing the founding fathers (Well, only ones children would easily recognize like George Washington) to modern times to interview them for history class. This causes history to change (Even though historical events are far more complicated than that) so that the US remained a British colony. The wall banger? In the alternate history, nearly everyone speaks in a stereotypical Cockney accent, have terrible hygene, and have not progressed socially, technologically, or whatnot past the 1700s. The episode is so full of Unfortunate Implications that it's little wonder it rarely (if at all) gets shown during reruns of the series.
Family Guy
BEFORE YOU EDIT THIS FOLDER- As Family Guy entries tend to attract this kind of complaining: This is not a place to complain about the Seasonal Rot. Nor to complain about Seth MacFarlane's directing. It is a place for those particular moments within the show you felt were truly horrible, idiotic, or insulting. If you feel that moment was the absolute low point for the show, please see the Dethroning Moment of Suck page for Family Guy. In particular, please try to avoid commenting on the decline in episode quality. Yes, these entries are symptoms of that, but this isn't the place for it, and it only drags the page down.
- Everything about "Not All Dogs Go To Heaven" (particularly the A-story where Meg becomes a born-again Christian after watching a religious show starring Kirk Cameron) has angered a lot of tropers. To list the specifics would take up too much time and space, so Family Guy has its own Dethroning Moment of Suck page here dedicated to this episode (and other dethroning moments of suck). Please list them here.
- The episode "Stew-roids" had two wall bangers:
- First, Buff Stewie (what else can you call him?) has next to no development and was just an excuse for jokes. They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot.
- Second, why did Connie become popular again after Chris' downfall when it was Neil who orcheastrated it?
- Seth MacFarlane ought to be glad he didn't have much to do with the episode "McStroke" — he was participating in the writers' strike of 2007-2008 at the time, and FOX finished the episode and aired it without Seth's permission (which MacFarlane has called a "colossal dick move"). "McStroke" has a parade of facepalm moments. Following an awkward non-joke about stem cell treatment, Peter crusades to bring down the restaurant where he pigged out on hamburgers and gave himself a stroke. Brian mentions Peter's own culpability exactly once; it never comes up again, not even when a judge throws out his lawsuit (it's because the business has a superb legal team, natch, although a case this ridiculous shouldn't have required their services). Then they visit the McBurgerTown corporate headquarters to find... a slaughterhouse? Okay, we'll chalk it up to Rule of Funny here, because surely they're building up to something hilarious, right? But then they meet a cow who tells them of the horrors perpetrated against his species by restaurant chain, and they use his testimony to bring down the company. WHAT!? How does that work? Who watching this show — or even in the show — didn't already know that beef comes from cows? The revelation that a fast food company uses meat that fresh should instantly quadruple their business! Rule of Funny utterly fails to cover this because it isn't funny. It's just stupid.
- Hell, if a restaurant used meat that fresh, that would be the main focus of their advertising.
- However, all this was saved by the mustache sequence. Why couldn't the whole episode have just kept its focus on that?
- They also have a wasted opportunity with Ricardo Montalbán. They had him as a cow, but they make no jokes about 'soft Corinthian leather'! For shame.
- The episode "Brian's Got a Brand New Bag." Brian dates an older woman, attracting intense ridicule from his family, and makes a huge deal about how he truly loves her and how she's not at all what one would expect a woman of her age (50) to be like. After this, however, out of nowhere, she starts acting stereotypically "old" (needing pills, breaking her hip, talking in out-of-date language, etc.), causing Brian to rethink staying with her, which ultimately ends in his cheating on her and getting dumped. The problem here is that up until about halfway through the episode, she never showed any of these issues. It's as if they suddenly manifested out of nowhere to ensure that the relationship would fail like all of Brian's previous ones, protecting the status quo. To make things worse, there was an earlier episode ("Brian Wallows; Peter Swallows") where Brian dated Pearl (the elderly shut-in who used to sing jingles and tried to launch a legitimate music career, only to be booed off the stage at Carnegie Hall) and she didn't act anything like the woman in "Brian's Got A Brand New Bag."
- Worse yet, with the application of a little Fridge Logic: going by the airdate, the fifty year old girlfriend would have been twenty five in 1984. Lois and Peter are hypocrites to make fun of how old she was when they're less than a decade younger.
- Speaking of, another episode revealed Glen Quagmire to be sixty-one, despite looking way younger. No one gives him any flack for that, given his constant womanizing.
- And an earlier episode claims Brian to be 8 years old (56). So it's OK for men to be 50+ years old, but any woman over the age of 30 is obviously abhorrent and should be avoided.
- "Big Man on Hippocampus", starting from when Peter is diagnosed with amnesia and continuing through the end of the episode. Peter forgetting who his family was is understandable; forgetting what a telephone is, less so.
- Also, Lois acts all hurt and tearful about the amnesiac Peter becoming a bachelor because he can't remember their commitment, saying that being married is supposed to mean "being faithful". Yeeeah, what about at the beginning of the episode, where LOIS, under NO amnesia and in front of Peter, kisses the host of "Family Feud" and tells him "I wanna be your wedding ring" in a sexual voice. So Lois can be unfaithful to Peter, but Peter can't be unfaithful to her afterward? Especially given that Peter has an excuse, while Lois has none? That the episode is expecting us to feel sorry for Lois and ignore her hypocrisy is a big Wallbanger.
- Much has been said about Quagmire's "The Reason You Suck" Speech to Brian on this wiki. It is related to the Wall Banger that is the hypocrisy of Glen Quagmire. Quagmire tears a strip off Brian for abandoning his son, hitting on Lois, and only liking women for their bodies. But Quagmire's abandoned hundreds of illegitimate children, rooted through Lois's trash and stolen her hair and undergarments, and committed multiple rapes of both the "regular" and statutory kind. And where the hell does Quagmire get off beating up Brian for having sex with his transgender father? Brian didn't know that was Glen's father! And that relationship was consensual. There should be any number of people who would want to do to Quagmire what Quagmire did to Brian...
- Note well: in the very same episode, when Quagmire's sister is getting beaten by her boyfriend, Quagmire runs outside to yell at Brian over his sister getting beaten. He's blaming Brian for something that isn't his fault without motivation, and chewing Brian out is more important to him than trying to rescue his own sister.
- Wasn't the point Quagmire was making not that that Brian does all of those things, but that he acts intellectually and morally superior to everyone all the time in spite of them? That's one thing Quagmire himself doesn't do. The fact that he himself acknowledges his flaws and asks him "what gives you the right to judge anyone?" does seem to support this.
- And he's not "a big alcoholic bore" either. Then again one could argue that having Quagmire lampshade the show's flaws has involved ironically diluting his personality and making him an Author Avatar too (his voice pitch even seems to convert more into Brian's throughout the speech amusingly enough). Also note the speech is about the one element in his resentment that isn't caused by Kafka Komedy (e.g. "Quagmire's Dad"). It's not really a justified Take That, Scrappy! if you're punishing a character for actions that aren't connected to their flaws or even their fault.
- The episode "Jungle Love". This episode extends Lois's abusive behavior to Chris. She spends a good minute trying to convince Chris to tolerate school and realize it's not all bad, and then baits him to Freshmen-targeting high schoolers the minute he sets foot on school grounds. Granted, Lois's character these days is inconsistent and dependent on Comedic Sociopathy, but it's hard to take the Aesop the episode is handing us seriously after that. (Though, since this is Family Guy, that may be the point).
- The entire episode "Padre de Familia" (which was one of the episodes Seth MacFarlane didn't do because of the 2007-2008 Writer Guild of America strike). Peter is fired from his job because he is an illegal immigrant, even though 1) his mother is American and 2) he's married to a citizen of America.
- Don't forget the Fridge Logic that Peter had to have shown that he was a citizen many years earlier for say, his driver's license, or something like that. Not the best thought out episode ever. Still, it had its funny points.
- There's a moment in the episode "Friends of Peter G." in which Brian said that people were fine without religion for years, followed by a cutaway in which people lived peacefully, but started slaughtering each other after the birth of Jesus was announced. This flashback has two Wall Bangers: first, that it implies that there was no religion before the birth of Jesus, and second, that religion is the cause of all evil. Seriously, no amount of Rule of Funny can't save such a massive Critical Research Failure.
- To me that scene seemed to be making fun of people who actually believe that religion is inherently evil, not condoning it.
- There's a few wall-bangers in the "Road To The Multiverse" episode, but two particularly bad ones bugged me.
- In the "Japan didn't quit" multiverse, why would everyone be stuck in the Edo era? Did nobody involved in production realize that Japan was only able to threaten the Pacific rim in World War II because they abandoned samurai and Westernized so rapidly? An American family enculturated by an invading Japan would bear more resemblance to a non-invaded American family of the same time than to a Japanese family from the pre-Meiji eras. And why would everyone end every sentence with "da yo"? It'd be roughly equivalent to shouting every sentence and ending it with "DUH!" or "MAN, TOTALLY!" in English.
- Walt Disney was not outspokenly anti-Semitic, did not ally himself with the Nazis (and may have actually helped win World War II
), and employed Jews on his staff. Granted, his vision of America was steeped in a conservative and strongly Christian light, and according to The Other Wiki, the rumors of anti-Semitism sprang up due to his membership in a reactionary filmmaker's organization, but there's no evidence that he himself championed anti-Semitic philosophies. And given how nobody seems to care when the show normally tries to humiliate or kill Mort (e.g., everyone's favorite Schindler's List joke), why would it be a deal-breaker here for an otherwise-perfect universe? Although...there were a couple Walt Disney Productions that leaned on popular ethnic stereotypes of the time, and thankfully, Family Guy has never sunk that low for a laugh.
- Don't forget the "we'd be living in the Future right now if Christianity never existed." Uh, time out, here...
1. Christianity actually helped PRESERVE lost Roman sciences and arts during the Dark Ages. 2. The biggest cause of the Dark Ages was the burning of the Library of Alexandria by the Muslim caliphate and the destruction of the Roman Empire, both of which set back centralized research and development several centuries.
- On the other hand, the Muslims preserved a lot of science and advanced scientifically while Europe didn't, and Muslim knowledge came back to Europe during the Crusades, which was what helped lead them out of the Dark Ages.
- In the "People/Dog role reversal universe", apparently what 'breed' of dog you are is completely random, regardless of the 'breed' of your parents. That would be like the coupling of a white man and black woman giving birth to a Japanese baby.
- Ok, in one gag of the episode, Brian and Stewie end up in a Flintstones-esque universe with Peter as Fred and Lois as Wilma. The joke? Nothing but "rock" puns. Um, the writers of the show do know that The Flintstones was essentially The Honeymooners with cavemen, right? It wasn't just "Rock Puns".
- Also, Stewie's and Brian's reaction of utter boredom and annoyance at the Flintstones-esqe universe. Uh, writer's of Family Guy? You do realize that The Flintstones was the longest-running cartoon sitcom for years until The Simpsons came and beat that record, pretty much paving the way for night-time cartoon sitcoms of the future. Without that kind of success, your show probably would've never existed in the first place.
- "Seahorse Seashell Party" had one of the most sadistic Yank the Dog's Chain in animation history. After finally standing up to her family and calling them all out for being terrible, sadistic, and downright abusing human beings, she looks back on the following breakdown and starts to show regret for saying exactly what they've needed to be told for a long time now. Ultimately she comes to realize that if your family's going to tear each other apart without you being the focus of their abuses, it's okay to not stand up for yourself. What. The. Fuck.
- "The Father, The Son, and The Holy Fonz" has a scene that has Peter, Francis, and Brian sharing some common ground by stating how much they dislike Madonna. Now, disliking someone due to personal choices they've made in their lives, fine. A bit harsh, but, nothing too serious. But, the wall banger comes in when the group calls Madonna a "liar" just because La Isla Bonita isn't a real place (Peter stated he couldn't find it on a map). Yes, because no one has ever created a fictional location before. Oh, except for Hogwarts, Isla Nublar (Isla Sorna in later books/films), and, oh yeah, QUAHOG!
Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends
- Fosters Home For Imaginary Friends has "Everyone Knows It's Bendy," in which an imaginary friend is dropped off at the home because the child is ill-behaved. Turns out that this given friend is, for lack of a better phrase, a total goit, who likes to pin the blame for his misdeeds on others. After all the main imaginary friends cast get it in the backend, Bloo hatches up a rather elaborate scheme to get Bendy into trouble, the upshot being that he's causing one hell of a mess to do so. By the end of the episode, Bloo gets into more trouble because he loudly announced that he just framed Bendy, Bendy apparently gets off scot free, and remotes are flung in the general direction of the TV.
- Speaking of Karma Houdini, who could forget Goofball, who got away with being a complete jackass for the whole episode just because he wasn't lying about being an imaginary friend?
- The entire plot of "I Only Have Surprise For You" requires Bloo to be a Jerkass to a level even greater than usual, and to have always been so much of one that it becomes impossible to imagine why Mac would care about him at all. And, in the end, it turns out that everyone was in on the scheme to humiliate Mac with an elaborate and embarrassing surprise party — even characters like Wilt, Mr. Herriman, and Frankie who would normally never ever go along with something like this.
- Well, everyone except Eduardo. He just does what the invitations tell him.
- In the flashbacks of past surprise parties, you can actually see Mac's MOM in the crowd. Why on earth would she let Bloo humiliate her own son?!
- It was nominated for an Emmy, but - so much pain, so much anger, and so much stupidity could have been avoided in "Go Goo Go" if Frankie and Mr. Herriman just gave Mac a proper chance to explain things instead of spewing the "THROW YOUR GIRLFRIEND OUT AND FUCK YOU!!" bile at him over and over.
- "Foster's Goes to Europe", not only for never making it to Europe, but also for Madame Foster taking Mac's tickets and getting away with it. Literally.
- Just as bad, if not worse, is that the entire episode is spent with everyone goofing around, wasting time, revealing they haven't even packed yet, despite Mac saying as soon as he shows up that they have to go now, right this minute if they want to catch their plane. Even Frankie and Mr. Herriman, who should know better are doing this! And then they not only act shocked when Mac tries to call his mother, rightfully thinking they've missed the flight anyway, but when the tickets turn out to be stolen and they can't go, everyone gets mad at him! Well, gee, guys, maybe this wouldn't have ever happened if you'd all gotten your asses in gear, had prepared ahead of time, and not fooled-a-freaking-round!
- In "The Buck Swaps Here," Wilt gets heat stroke while helping Madame Foster carry stuff off the bus for a swap meet and nearly dies. He is ignored for the rest of the episode because everyone else is too busy with more important things, like trying to get Eduardo to buy them stupid crap with a $100 bill he found. Some caretakers these people are. Frankie even calls him out for being "selfish" for asking Eduardo to buy him a drink! (Okay, it was directed toward everyone who was badgering Eduardo, but still.)
Jimmy Neutron Boy Genius
- Jimmy Neutron has fought Chicken egg aliens, living pants, a midget mad scientist, a robot, lots of robot, he has built a robot dog, has a laboratory, breathes in space, fought more aliens, saved the world with a secret agent, stopped a renegade burger restaurant mascot, shrunk down to the size of a bacteria to extract mitochondria from them, went to the depths of ocean, and has done many more, but HE DOESN'T BELIEVE IN SANTA CLAUS??????????!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Also, he's a huge dick about it to Carl and others who believe in Santa; Cindy and Libby try to get some justified revenge on him....and Santa gives them coal for it in the end. And Jimmy saves Christmas from what he AS USUAL caused himself, so he gets rewarded and excused for his behavior earlier.
- The episode where Jimmy builds a jetpack fueled by gold. That's right—a jetpack fueled by a valuable, non-renewable resource!
- You mean like a jetpack fueled by...oil?
- The episode "Science Fair Affair" has Jimmy managing to win the Nobel Prize after his father enters his oil substitute machine to the judge. This oil machine detects garbage and converts it into oil substitute. Then some random kid shows off his bomb of an experiment that sprays mud on the judges; then the machine sucks them up. After the other kids save them, the Nobel Prize judge takes away the prize from Jimmy, saying "I can't believe you're not in jail!". Oh right, reject a potential solution to Earth's oil crisis because of a near death experience that WASN'T THE INVENTOR'S FAULT, and ignore the real trial-and-error process behind inventing and that Jimmy didn't make the large-scale version of the machine.
- Hugh explicitly stated that he sent the blueprints to the Nobel Committee. That means they built it, and did so incorrectly.
- Obviously, the Nobel Prize man was part of the Free Energy Suppression Conspiracy.
- Why didn't they just build a funnel to throw trash into instead of having an automated vacuum? That fact alone should have been a wallbanger, by both Jimmy (for designing a dirt-seeking vacuum) and the committee (they should have foreseen the problems with a Dirt Seeking Vacuum that throws things into shredders!).
- Also on Jimmy Neutron, there was an episode where Jimmy invented a device that could rewind a person's actions. Not only is it explicitly stated to do specifically that, it's even mentioned that because it only does that, it doesn't affect the time-space continuum. Minutes later, it gets set to rewind the main characters by 200 million years. It does exactly what Jimmy claimed it didn't and sends the characters 200 million years into the past with no change whatsoever to them, complete with fears that they'll mess up the future.
- According to his father, all he did was press 'two, zero, zero, and the big blue button'. Since the device only ever rewound at most 5 minutes or so every single time except for the 200 million years thing, it's a wonder how it got accidentally set to such a massive time out of nowhere, unless the blue button functions as a secondary activation switch that multiplies the input by 1 million years. But even if we accept that, there's no explanation on how he is able to use the device the way he intends every single time afterwards.
- What makes this episode even more of a Wallbanger is that, according to the show, the Cretaceous period was 200 million years ago, and leptictidia lived during the Cretaceous.
- The episode where Jimmy makes a bunch of clones of himself to do a bunch of chores while he goes to see an astronomical event that only happens every couple thousand years. At the end, he simply freezes them all so that he can "declone" them, except for the evil clone who got away.
- What's funny is that the entire Blade Runner movie exists to point out how much of a Wall Banger this is — how clones are people, too, and how inhumane and cruel "decloning" (or, in that movie's words, "retiring") is.
- When Evil Jimmy came back, he made an evil clone of Earth! When Jimmy is on Evil Earth, he runs to the clones of his parents for help. After all, "they may be evil, but they're still my parents, right?" Riiiight. Technically, they're his parents' offspring, his siblings, if anything. Oh, yeah, and they've never even seen him before. But they're still his parents!
- If the writers are using "clone" to mean "copy" in those two episodes - this program is, in theory, about a kid who loves science. The sound contradicts the sense here.
- The episode "Stranded", where the plot is set in motion over an argument between Jimmy and Cindy over whether or not the equator can be seen by the human eye. Students are taught, well before 5th grade, that the equator is a theoretical reference point, just like all other lines of latitude and longitude. And, despite being nearly as smart as Jimmy, Cindy seems to believe it's visible.
- Cindy really just wanted to know if there is an indication (for instance, a curve on the water) of where the Equator is. Jimmy interpreted it as if Cindy was looking for a literal line. Poor Communication Kills?
- And after all that is over, Cindy says Australia is a continent, but Jimmy says otherwise. Everyone who's at least been through first grade knows that Australia is the only continent that's its own country. Sheesh, and here I thought Jimmy was the smart guy.
- What? At first grade they told me that Australia is part of a continent named Oceania with New Zealand...
- Australia is indeed its own continent and a country, while Oceania refers to the region Australia and New Zealand are in.
Kim Possible
- One Kim Possible episode had Shego trapped in a shallow
crocodile alligator trap. It wouldn't be hard for her to escape the pit; she can shoot energy beams with her hands, has very sharp nails, is skilled at Kung Fu, and can jump several meters up in the air in a single leap. Yet she just stands there whining about how she needs help to escape. Nothing can justify the stupidity of that scene.
- Not even Rule of Funny?
- No, it's just that stupid.
- Senor Senior, Sr., didn't think Shego was in any danger. He just asked her not to harm his alligators. Three guesses how Shego took that request.
- Note: it is very possible that the writers deliberately downplay Shego's powers and abilities to make sure that she can't win.
- "Bad Boy": The show often operates on Rule of Funny, but in most episodes, the villains do make an attempt to hide their main bases of operations from the authorities, mainly by location (such as a remote mountain, underwater, a haunted island) or by hiding the true purpose from the public and the authorities (disguising the evil lair as a cupcake factory or a university, to name two examples.) This episode features a villains' convention taking place at the Tri-City Convention Center, a public place smack-dab in the middle of a major urban area. Particularly egregious because convention centers in real life have control over what conventions they hold. Someone had to know that a large number of heinous criminals were gathering at a public place to engage in crime-related activities, but did nothing to stop them.
- The need to worship the god of status quo also provides us with this one from "Ron Millionaire": Ron carries around the whole $100m? Seriously?
- And since Bueno Nacho is still in business after that episode despite the bad publicity it must have received during the Li'l Diablo Incident in "So The Drama," shouldn't Ron still be receiving royalties?
- Maybe after the incident in the episode, Wade might have set up some kind of account in-between Bueno Nacho and Ron... It could be possible, being a 10 year old supergenius.
- And then there's the show's finale. For some, it was a Crowning Moment of Awesome. But when Ron suddenly awakes his full Mystical Monkey Powers and starts beating the aliens all by himself, it just went from bad to worse; and it keeps doing that even when it seemed impossible. It's fanservice of the most popular character, but it isn't Character Development and doesn't leave a good message. Ron is suddenly told he's ready; he somehow agrees; and then, suddenly, he's the most kick-ass character of the show, leaving Kim (and maybe Shego) as nothing but a damsel in distress in the final episode of the show with her own name! Almost as if to suggest women can't be good enough to be the real heroes of the story...
- Many people believe that the ending defines everything that came before it. This finale is about the culmination of Ron Stoppable's journey — the implication being that Kim's own story was finished before the Grand Finale. (Stupid Post Script Season...)
- The theme of the show was originally teamwork and The Power of Friendship, like in A Sitch in Time, not "oooh look at Ron he's cool now!" There is an ongoing debate about whether this was a good idea.
King of the Hill
- The King of the Hill episode "The Accidental Terrorist". Long story short, Hank protested a car dealer by putting up some fliers at night. But some rebellious "friends" had other ideas and blew up a bunch of cars. Guess who gets ALL the blame? Yup. And nothing gets resolved — not only does everyone think Hank was a terrorist (though he walked, thanks to the same car dealer who ripped him off earlier), but the real terrorists got away. Stupid, stupid, stupid!
- It's worse than that. The dealer doesn't help Hank because he believes he's innocent (he doesn't); he helps Hank because Hank can drag the case out longer than the dealer can afford. There are worse reasons, but still...
- In the episode where Lucky tries to get his GED, Peggy decides to sabotage him because he's planning to ask Luanne to marry him after he passes the test. Lucky fails. Then it's revealed that Luanne is pregnant, making Peggy want them to get married. Lucky was clearly smart enough and on track to get his GED before Peggy sabotaged him; but in the rest of the episode, everyone acts as if it was Lucky's fault he failed. Peggy suffers no consequences beyond Hank being mad at her for about five seconds when she reveals what she did. The episode ends with Peggy kicking Lucky in the chest.
- No one thought to have Lucky simply re-take the frikkin GED! Okay, so you have to wait six months between attempts. It could still have made for an interesting plot next season...
- The unbelievable number of things that are downright horrific that go unpunished or get misattributed has become almost comical. Look, we understand that Hank Hill is the embodiment of everything good, kind, and American. Everyone else, compared to him, is amoral scum. Now would you please get back to telling stories, Mike Judge!?
- Mike Judge was unaware that the show had Jumped the Shark, and failed to realize that it was always at its best when it dealt with real situations and didn't have Hank's peer group acting like lunatics. At some point, someone clearly felt that it was best to replace reasonable situations with INSANE ones, including turning Luanne into a total ditz (in the early episodes, she may not have been that bright, but she did know how to fix a car, despite Cotton Hill's sexist remarks about it) and Peggy into a know-it-all-know-nothing Jerkass with the worst grasp on Spanish ever.
- Another glaring one is the Broken Aesop episode when Bobby becomes the Longhorn's Mascot. Apparently, it is an 'honor' to be beaten up by the other team's marching band, risking brain damage, broken bones, and maybe even crushed organs. Everyone was expecting Bobby to 'take it like a man' and get beaten up. When he understandably RAN, he was treated like crap by everyone. Has everyone forgot that it was the late 20th century and that HAZING laws were in place? And a teacher knocked Bobby's books out of his hands, tells him to pick them up and, when he does, she kicks them and orders him to pick them up again. Such a thing would get any teacher FIRED and blacklisted from schooling. A lot of King of the Hill fans hate this episode due to the fact that apparently-being beaten up for tired, old traditions is a good thing.
- Maybe it's just me, but I assumed the point was that it WASN'T a good thing and that these people are fucked up. The whole time you're supposed to be on Bobby's side about the whole "running away from getting his ass beat" issue.
- Unfortunately, the ending of the episode ruins that. Because when Bobby shows up and allows himself to be beaten by the other team's marching band, its treated as a good thing, complete with Hank and Peggy watching like proud parents as their son gets mauled, all for the sake of horrific "tradition".
- What self-respecting school would allow a rival school to defile one of its hallowed symbols, anyway?
- I forget the name of the episode, but there's this episode where Bobby sees a magic show and Hank tries to get Peggy to tell him the explanations for all the tricks or something. Anyway, Bobby has to do a project for Sunday school, so he does a magic show called "The Amazing Jesus" to represent Jesus' miracles. And he's good at it, but after Sunday school Bobby is yelled at by Hank and Peggy for "making a mockery of Jesus." What? Bobby was just being CREATIVE, not making a mockery of Jesus! Heck, it's something you'd EXPECT out of a young boy at a Sunday school! The rest of the Sunday school class even LIKED it, but Hank and Peggy didn't even care how skilled his tricks were or how creative the show was! What the heck?
- Um, you do remember that the end of the scene was Bobby's setup of the crucifixion, right?
- The crucifixion is part of Christianity.
- He was going to burn a cross for the trick, which has Unfortunate Implications in multiple ways.
- While Bobby managing to re-create Jesus's miracles via magic tricks actually is very creative and doubtlessly took a lot of preparation and practice, there are other implications that can be taken from this. Doing what Jesus did through simple tricks can be taken to mean that Jesus himself was nothing being a con artist (helped along by Bobby melodramatically saying "The Amazing Jesus" before every miracle, which can be taken to sound sarcastic). Although Bobby was totally innocent (and rather creative) in his project, Christians would naturally be offended by such a statement.
- If Bobby was SMARTER at the time, instead of Too Dumb to Live, he could have made the project about false messiahs that existed at the same time as Jesus, showing that while what Jesus did were actual miracles (Like how he didn't need to hide things to make water turn into wine or make a bunch of bread appear), the false messiahs were doing simple tricks that anyone could replicate. But of course, Bobby is a moron in the earlier seasons.
- Maybe Bobby just didn't know how offensive it was. It's not like Hank and Peggy told him how offensively sarcastic he was being, or told him that there are people who could be offended by that; they just yell at him.
- Apres Hank, Le Deluge- Hank had to save the entire city when the flooding was making the dam nearly break. When he comes to the shelter, Bill, who has gone mad with power, has become shelter leader and calls Hank 'the Arlen Flooder'. The entirety of the people in the shelter are Too Dumb to Live, trusting Bill with their safety, and forgetting, if its not for Hank, ALL OF THEM WOULD BE DEAD. Finally, when the episode ends, Bill becomes a Karma Houdini and the people are still stupid.
- In the final episode aired, Just Another Manic Kahn Day, Hank's ignorance of anything outside of his comfort zone turns into potentially fatal stupidity. He starts by assuming the medicine Kahn has to pick up (treatment for his manic depression) is something his wife makes him take for petty reasons, and talks Kahn out of waiting in line for it. After realizing he was wrong, Hank gets the medicine for Kahn and suggests he take the entire bottle at once to make it act quickly.
- I actually thought that was their way of averting the "Hank's always right" thing. OBVIOUSLY Kahn should've never stopped taking his medicine and OBVIOUSLY taking the whole bottle wouldn't really be a good thing. The fact that these are common knowledge and yet Hank still made a stupid decision means that he isn't always right (regardless of how every other recent episode said otherwise).
- I didn't think the episode was supporting him, but making Hank that stupid felt weird, showing him as wrong could have been done without reducing his intelligence to Homer levels.
- Four Wave Intersection. One of the biggest Wall bangers in the series. Summary: Huge heat wave in Arlen, Bobby sees a commercial for a water park and gets a season pass. He wants to ride the Endless Wave but the guy in charge won't let him because he's not a "local". Then when they decide to go to a higher up he practically tells the guy "Do whatever you want to him." First off, not letting someone go on because of where they're from is discrimination, and from how the higher up acted, its not the first time someone's complained about this idiot. SO WHY IS HE STILL EMPLOYED THERE?!?!?! And with them throwing Bobby down the waterslide like that, he could've broken his neck. Know what would've happened then? Lawsuits, lawsuits and more lawsuits. So instead of firing someone who is not doing their job and performing illegal discrimination, they just let him stay there and hope no one gets hurt. The only thing that prevents this from becoming a DMOS is that the B plot is one of Bills better moments in the series.
- One episode deals with Bobby getting into Tarot cards. Hank, of course, is horrified. Bobby makes friends with a guy at a store who is into Tarot cards. Do we get an aesop about how people who try strange things can be normal? Nope, the guy turns out to be a loser who lives in his mom's basement, dresses up in wizard robes, tries to cast magic spells, and is friends with a bunch of other guys who seem to be just as pathetic as him. By the end of the episode, Bobby realizes how uncool they are and insults them with Hank. It doesn't help that when he left the group, they all tried to destroy him just by saying a spell that included the words "Destroyitcus Bobbyus". Yep, Hank is proven right again because as we all know, Hank is always right.
- Another walbanger is that the LARP group actually believe in what they're doing going so far as to try and make Bobby drink dog's blood as a ritual. This goes beyond unbelievable and falls into Chick Tract and Mazes and Monsters levels of stupidity. Do the writers of KOTH even know what LARP groups or Dungeons & Dragons players are really like? Because, they certainly are not like the people portrayed in this episode.
- Serpunt. Let me sum it up as briefly as possible. Bobby gets a pet python from Lucky (Which, by the way, would've cost Lucky a pretty penny since pythons in general cost about $100). Bobby's python escapes. Two corrupt exterminators cause a city-wide panic about the snake in Texas (You know, where snakes including HIGHLY VENOMOUS rattlers are commonplace). Dale finds the snake, again Bobby's pet, and brutally kills it rather than humanely capture it and return to its owner. The snake wasn't even being a threat to anyone. It never attacked anyone in the episode. Notice a problem?
Peanuts
- In It's Your First Kiss, Charlie Brown, Charlie Brown is in a football team during an important game as the place kicker, but Lucy is assigned to hold the ball for the kicks. Sure enough, she pulls the (in)famous and inevitable ball-pulling prank four times (or is that five?) — twice on field goal attempts, which eventually leads to them losing the game by one point (that difference coming from Chuck "missing" the extra point after their first touchdown as a result of one of the pranks). It's clear that the writers never thought that Lucy pulling this prank in the open (especially under the circumstances shown the last time she does it) would get her humiliated. There must have been hundreds of witnesses who could see Lucy's interference. But the whole team angrily blames Charlie Brown instead, and he naturally doesn't bother to defend himself even when Lucy rubs it in at a party later. It didn't matter in the grander scheme (Chuck even gets to kiss The Red-Headed Girl at the party), but many viewers wrote protest letters about this stupid plot hole.
- It can be argued that the kiss doesn't count because Chuck doesn't remember it the next morning.
- The other two times are on kickoffs — the opening kickoff, and the one immediately following the missed PAT. That second kickoff is the only time Chuck thinks that the game is too important for Lucy to pull the prank. (And yes, Linus does pin the blame on Chuck for screwing up that kickoff.)
- The backlash forced the writers into a minor retcon in future showings. After the missed field goals, watch Peppermint Patty at the bottom of the pile. Her mouth moves, but her original dialogue, blaming things on Charlie Brown, has been backmasked and silenced.
- Similarly, in Happy New Year, Charlie Brown, the script goes completely overboard to make Charlie Brown miserable. For instance, Charlie Brown is apparently given an assignment to do a book report on War and Peace over the Christmas holiday break. Considering that the book is famous for being over 1,000 pages, no sane elementary school teacher would impose such an impossible project on a child (although this is based on a storyline from the strips). Furthermore, when Charlie Brown attends Peppermint Patty's New Year's Eve party and takes some time outside to read the book, Patty complains that she can't find him for the countdown despite his being just outside the front door.
- The idea of an elementary school class being forced to read War and Peace over winter break is absurdly funny in its own right, but no one else in the class seems to have this assignment -- only Charlie Brown!
- Also in Happy New Year, Charlie Brown: while Charlie Brown is sleeping, the Little Red-Haired Girl shows up, and Linus goes dancing with her. Keep in mind that Linus is supposed to be one of the few cast members of Peanuts who doesn't treat Charlie Brown like crap, and he clearly knows of Charlie's feelings for the redhead. The writers apparently decided "Screw that!" and gave Charlie Brown a good reason to stop being friends with Linus. (It wasn't taken, but...)
- A similar thing happens in Someday You'll Find Her, Charlie Brown.
- And to rub salt into the wound, Charlie Brown got a D- on the assignment because his teacher somehow thought he wasn't going to be able to read the damn book and write about it in such a short amount of time (when she presumably assigned it to him). And his next book to read is Crime and Punishment. Happy New Year, Charlie Brown, indeed.
- War and Peace contains illegitimacy, seduction, attempted suicide, allegations of incest and abortion, gruesome battlefield injuries, and no-anaesthetic amputation. It's hard to believe that a teacher could get away with assigning it to a grade-school kid even for an all-year book report.
- It should be noted that this plot did play out in the comics, but the book in question here was Gulliver's Travels, a much smaller and easier book.
- Let's just make this general statement: The rules of the Peanuts universe clearly state that Charlie Brown is never allowed to be happy or succeed at anything— but in the comic strip, it didn't happen because other characters had sudden bursts of incredible stupidity or out-of-character callousness. The specials, on the other hand...
- Another example is the summer camp and boat race in Race For Your Life, Charlie Brown. The gang split up between boys and girls, each with a boat, and went up against a trio of jerks and their vicious, over-aggressive cat. Unfortunately, throwing all characterization to the wind, all the girls not only started behaving like The Load and The Millstone by not doing anything at all to help the gang win, but they also berated Charlie Brown every time things didn't go their way. It's in character for Sally or Lucy to behave like spoiled brats... but Peppermint Patty? Even kind, sweet Marcie, possibly the most gentle female character in the Peanuts world, was derailed into a jerk out of the blue just to make things miserable for Charlie.
- It could be a logical extension of Peppermint Patty's over-competitiveness and Marcie's tendency to be dominated by her friend's personalities... Also, since Charlie Brown gets appointed leader of the combined group and then immediately tells the girls to shut up, this is kind of awesome. Now, the guys letting the girls force them to sleep outside when it's snowing outside - in summer... go figure....
- The problem is, on previous occasions (both in the animated show and the strips), despite her respect for Peppermint Patty, Marcie did not hesitate to call her out when Patty was behaving in a stupid or overbearing manner. So, it was morally dissonant (at best) that she didn't do it this time.
- Another problem is that the girls were voting on just about everything - even whether to save the boys from the freezing river. If that's the democratic method, this troper's voting Republican.
- Worse, they never give the boys a chance to vote. The girls kick the boys out of a cabin they found in the name of "democracy". When Charlie Brown tries to protest, Peppermint Patty yells, "Don't you believe in democracy?" She does, however, get called out (by Charlie Brown, no less) when she complains that their breakfast is just cold cereal and milk instead of hotcakes and such.
- Yet another problem with the movie: Lucy tells Sally that mountain climbers wear chains so that "when one falls, they all fall." That sounds pretty dumb on its own, but it sounds like she could have just as easily said "when one falls, they all die." Didn't the script writers think about how grim that sounds? There's little kids being crabby, and then there's...that. Who's willing to take bets that Lucy is going to grow up to be the next Hannibal Lecter?
- Bon Voyage Charlie Brown (And Don't Come Back!) features one gigantic combo of Idiot Ball and What the Hell, Hero? in the Chateau fire sequence. To recap, Linus and the Baron's daughter are trapped on a high window ledge because the chateau is on fire. Linus throws down his blanket to the rest of the kids to act as a makeshift trampoline. The kids use it to safely catch the Baron's daughter and then drop the blanket before Linus can jump down, leaving him stranded on the burning ledge. Snoopy manages to save him with a makeshift Soft Water pool, but still...
- The fact that they're all very much panicking could be used as a bit of an excuse, mainly because after Charlie Brown raises the alarm and Pierre calls for the fire fighters, Snoopy is the only useful main character after that. Even the Baron's running around in circles.
- Someone mentioned "Someday You'll Find Her, Charlie Brown" in an entry further up. For the curious, it, similar to the "HNYCB" example, is another instance of Linus screwing over Charlie Brown. While the aforementioned example may have been unintentional, this case has absolutely no excuse. Basically, C.B. sees a nice girl in the audience of a football game on TV, and he and Linus go over to her house to chat. Charlie gets nervous, however, and asks Linus to introduce him to the girl while he, Charlie, hides behind a tree. Linus goes up, and the door opens. Instantly, Linus is absolutely smitten, mainly because she also has a Security Blanket just like him! Linus spends the entire day there without mentioning poor Charlie Brown once. But It Gets Worse, when Linus leaves, Charlie chastises Linus for not even having him over. But Linus, who is supposed to be Charlie's best friend, doesn't even bother to listen, sending poor Chuck running for home. Nothing is even resolved, the show ends with Linus continuing to hang out with the girl while Chuck sits miserably at the brick wall. The Character Derailment of Linus in the New Years special was bad enough, but this time, the storymen just went too far.
Scooby Doo
- Scooby-Doo and the Cyber Chase: So... a professor and his students create a device able to transport people and objects between different dimensions in the cyber world, and they choose to show this revolutionary technology to a bunch of hippies and their retarded dog? Did they honestly believe the Scooby Gang could stop a walking sentient computer virus capable of controlling the world's technology - that would be a job important enough for the government, don't you think?
- The fact that there even is a walking sentient computer virus would count.
- The sentient computer virus thing is mostly Rule Of Cool. The problem I had with it was when Daphne said that every villain they ever faced was in the game. So... the gang only faced 7 or 8 villains throughout their entire career?
- The gang was on their way there just to play the new game. The virus appearing the night before was a coincidence. And the gang was zapped into the game by the guy who made the virus.
- Following on the above, Scooby-Doo on Zombie Island: They go to New Orleans, and follow a complete stranger to a deserted island after telling her they're looking for REAL ghosts. They don't tell anyone else where they went. There they find that the creepy landowner and the stranger are really immortals from the colonial era. They became immortal after praying to their cat-god for power and vengeance against pirates who killed their innocent puritan cat-worshipping families. The pirates' zombies haunt the island trying to warn everyone about the evil anthropomorphic cat ladies who will suck out your souls and do voodoo. Also, a formerly undercover FBI agent says he'll tell his superiors about the crazy cat ladies but he doesn't think he'll be believed. Yeah, bye FBI, hello mental institution. Also, why hasn't anyone noticed that the inhabitants of the house and the crazy boatman haven't aged for something like 200 years? What was the point of the catfish and the catfish hunter? And if the Morgan Moonscar guy could write neat messages, why didn't he write something like "TENANTS WILL EAT YOU" or "SIMONE IS ANTHRO CAT"? Why do the pirate zombies care? They preyed off of innocents before, why should they care if more innocents are consumed? You know what, this movie has so much fail that it can't be put down.
- What's New, Scooby-Doo?, Episode: "E-Scream", the gang deals with some little creatures who have a virus which causes them to become violent. The episode ends with the revelation that it's just a VR video game,* and the critters don't exist. Hmmmmm, so I guess the intro scene, which wasn't part of the video game, and involved some dudes playing with said critters was forgotten by everyone?
The Secret of NIMH 2
- The Secret of NIMH 2, a Lighter and Softer direct-to-video sequel made without Don Bluth's input, has a whole slew of these, both in itself and relating to the original film. In the original film, the Rats help Mrs. Brisby save Timothy because they owe Jonathan. In this film, it is stated outright that Timothy has been prophesied to save Thorn Valley and the Rats. Bonus demerits because it's a self-fulfilling one.
- The colony of Thorn Valley, a major plot point in the first film, is finally shown. It's a foolishly massive construct complete with concentric irrigation rings and very tall buildings. If the rats were trying to craft a colony invisible to human eyes, then they failed miserably. The rats still make trips into the conveniently close city to steal garbage despite their setting up Thorn Valley to get rid of their dependence on humans.
- The directions to Thorn Valley are "South by south by south.", the directional equivalent of 555. These directions don't make geographical sense, and that becomes painful when these directions become an important plot point.
- The escape of a Mouse of NIMH, who is the daughter of two Mice who failed to escape. (They figure out who she is when she gives her last name.) The survival of the Mice is explained (we should be used to animated filmmakers ignoring exhaust fans); but how this one escaped isn't... well, how she escaped her cage — we see her walk out the front door of NIMH in the flashback, which is itself a problem. We also don't know how she got anywhere near Thorn Valley. Anyhow, what explanation she did give made it sound like Mice were staying at NIMH voluntarily.
- The explanation for the Mice not escaping NIMH was that they were forced to hide in the basement to recover from injuries falling down the vent. By the time they were able to leave, the scientists found them again. There's no explanation why only one of the mice tried to escape using the "South by South by South" directions though.
- Mr. Ages refers to the supposedly dead mice as "The Lost Six." But in the first movie, there were eleven mice, and all were sucked into the air shafts except two, Jonathan Brisby and Mr. Ages. So, eleven minus two equals...six? Did the writers even watch the first movie?
- This almost sense—there were six in the book (Mrs. Frisby and the Rats of NIMH)—but not in the movie. If you look at the beginning, they not only altered the clip from the original of nine mice going down the shaft to six but also changed the art style.
- The sequel makes other references to the novel not present in the original movie (eg. Brutus' Jerkass Façade, Timmy journeying to Thorn Valley). It may make sense that they took references from the novel more than the original movie. Some of the new characters, while a contrast from the original cast, are Bluth-ish in design (eg. Cecil looks like a concept that would fit better in Thumbelina). It seems the staff looked at almost all possible reference media except the original movie.
- The rats of Thorn Valley idolise Jonathan Brisby like a hero — they have a statue of him — but his wife seems to get no credit whatsoever. We don't know the full extent of Jonathan's heroics, but we do know those of his wife; she was a perfectly normal mouse who sabotaged the farmer's tractor, spoke to the Great Owl, found the secret colony, successfully drugged the cat (a feat her husband had failed at), warned the rats of NIMH's approach, and unlocked the power of the amulet to raise her house and save her children. Shouldn't she at least get a plaque?
- Furthermore, what happened to the amulet in the sequel?
- The plot twist that Timmy's brother Martin is the villain. Sure, the Cain and Abel trope is used many times in media but this one is worth mention. Why? Because, for one, it came out of the left field (he was captured and tested off screen outside), two, it totally derails the idea that Dr. Valentine was the bad guy (he now has the mind of a dog) and three, it makes the prophecy a self-fulfilling one. (Martin was jealous that Timmy was the Chosen One and Timmy didn't think he was up to the task, so Martin goes off to stop Dr. Valentine, gets himself captured, and well, this happens..) The only good thing to come out of it was the illogical result of Martin now being a British (voiced by Eric Idle) Large Ham. At least that was entertaining.
The Simpsons
Star Wars The Clone Wars
- In Season 2 of Star Wars: The Clone Wars, Obi-wan, Anakin, and Mace Windu are trying to get information from Cad Bane, who's not cooperating. After ruling out torture for not being "the Jedi way", the "heroes" combine their Jedi Mind Trick powers and essentially Mind Rape the victim into cooperation. The victim cooperates, not because the trick worked, but because he didn't want them to do it again. Looks like someone's definition of "torture" is incomplete...
- This isn't entirely bad when Anakin at least has the decency to point out that the Jedi are acting like a military and as a result should report to Chancellor Palpatine.....who, of course, is Darth Sidious, so it serves to bite them in the ass even if they don't realize it at all at that point. But torturing...yeah.
- Well considering that the lives of two babies were on the line I'd say that in this case desperate times call for desperate measures.
- It was out of concern for children's lives, yes, but it's also blatantly hypocritical to decide torturing someone would be wrong and then turn around and do it anyway. This is part of the Moral Myopia mentioned below.
- Don't forget that Jedi tend to contradict themselves a lot, act on Moral Myopia and just be outright hypocrites at times, especially on Expanded Universe and Knights of the Old Republic. Or has everyone forgotten the brainwashing Revan in the first game?
- Another Clone Wars example: "Lightsaber Lost." The whole episode. She used the Force in multiple instances, including some, ah, enhanced interrogation on the thief, but never once thinks to just grab the actual lightsaber. Despite having several perfect opportunities to do so, including when she first noticed it had been stolen.
- The episode where Anakin and Obi-Wan try to capture Count Dooku when he gets away. Ahsoka proceeds to chew them out, despite not knowing the circumstances that led to their failure. Rather that just pulling rank on her and telling her to shut up, like Obi-Wan would do to Anakin in Attack of the Clones, they just sheepishly stand there and take it.
- Would YOU tell a lightsaber prodigy teenage girl to "shut up"? 20-1 in favor of her kicking your ass over it.
- Agreed. Maybe if they were older, more experienced; regarded as the greatest practitioner of one of the seven lightsaber forms and the "chosen one" respectively, and each one of the most powerful Jedi ever to live...oh wait, THEY ARE.
- To be completely fair, they probably realized that Ahsoka had a point. They had been arguing like children, not a Jedi Master and the Chosen One they were supposed to be (and why they were doing so is yet another wall banger, at least in Obi-Wan's case). And Anakin wasn't "just taking it," but arguing back. Obi-Wan is not "just taking it," he's thinking "now Anakin has a Padawan who talks back to him just like he did to me, MY LIFE IS NOW COMPLETE."
- In the next episode, Obi-Wan and Anakin are kidnapped by Weequays and tortured repeatedly while being held for ransom. When they finally break out, they have the leader at sabre point, yet Obi-Wan tells Anakin to let him go, despite the fact that the Weequay was willing to come to jail quietly. So either Obi-Wan is being just a little too forgiving of the guy who tortured him, or he's letting the guy live so Count Dooku can come and kill him, which is so dark for a character like Obi-Wan, it's too far in the other direction.
- And just to make it worse, said leader becomes a reoccurring villain later on. And we next see him extorting a bunch of defenseless farmers. Great job Obi-Wan!
- In the movie, Yoda had enough time to save Anakin and Obi-Wan repeatedly, but was apparently too busy to rescue Jabba's son.
- In "Dooku Captured", when Count Dooku is paraded in front of a holocam to prove that he has been captured, Palpatine admonishes that holograms can be faked. As further proof, the pirate leader holds up Dooku's lightsaber... in the hologram. Yoda then accepts that as trustworthy proof. Not thirty seconds ago they were saying that holograms can not be trusted, but now they accept a hologram as proof that another hologram was real. It is not just the innate logical problems here, but they did not even wait for a new scene or different characters, just had the two lines uttered one line after the other.
- My guess is a fake Dooku hologram would be easy to make, what with how well-known he is in-series. His lightsaber would likely be harder to fake, considering Yoda knows what it looks like, and just about any other non-Jedi who's seen it before that point probably died to it.
- Plus, they didn't immediately jump to the point of paying a lot of money in ransom over a possibly fake hologram. Instead, they sent a couple of Jedi to make sure Hondo was telling the truth. Said Jedi were the geniuses who lost him in the first place, but still...
- There are multiple occasions in this series where a major problem can be solved by a Jedi using the Force, but for some inexplicable reason, they choose not to. Such as the episode where Cad Bane has Ahsoka trapped in an airlock and will vent her into space unless Anakin opens a holocron for him. Gosh, if only Anakin had the telekinetic ability to throw Bane into a wall before he had a chance to press the button.
- Clincher is, Cad Bane sends her out the Airlock anyways! Apparently Anakin was fully capable of rescuing her from said airlock.
- One thing that sticks out, is that the series seems to constantly pass up opportunities to showcase Anakin's dark side. Now while it's great that we finally get to see more of Anakin behaving like the hero and friend that Obi-Wan described him to be in the original films, at this point in the series, it wouldn't hurt to have him flip out on some bad guys or acknowledge his mechanical arm at least once. It would also be good so that when kids who have been introduced to Star Wars via the series finally see the films, they wont be shocked as much when their hero suddenly goes on a killing spree.
- In season 3 Cad Bane manages to successfully fight off both Obi-Wan Kenobi and Quinlan Vos by using one of their own lightsabers and directly engaging them with it. There's Badass then there's Villain Sue. Even Jango Fett was only able to stay alive against Obi Wan and Mace Windu as long as he kept them away from their lightsabers.
- To be fair, Bane got in a total of like three swings before Obi-Wan disarmed him, and Bane's true shining moment is in hand to hand. This itself is a wallbanger, though; see above with force powers. Even if Jedi don't do the neck choke, there are at least five ways that battle could have been ended quickly and Bane captured. As always, the Jedi have to hold the Idiot Ball so they're not strong enough to beat Bane.
- In the Mortis arc of Star Wars: The Clone Wars, Anakin meets the Son, a being who is basically the living embodiment of the Dark Side, complete with glowing red eyes, visible lack of hair, and entirely black clothing. Son shows Anakin the future (which naturally includes all of the evil he will inflict on the galaxy) and asks Anakin to join him in conquering the galaxy to prevent those evil things from happening. So, basically, he says "Turn to the Dark Side, so that you can prevent yourself from...turning to the Dark Side." And how does our hero, the almighty Chosen One, choose to counter such a compelling argument of such flawless logic? He bites down on the Shmuck Bait, hard, and goes completely over to the Dark Side. Good really is dumb, isn't it?
- And then, the Father, living embodiment of the Force As A Whole, brings him right straight back to the Light Side again, with no memory of what happened. My God that plot twist was pointless...
- From the same episode, only this time, the Idiot Ball has been handed to the Daughter, living embodiment of the Light Side. Get this; her brother is about to stab her father, and instead of, y'know, using the Force to pull the knife away from her brother, she Takes the Bullet. And dies. Thus leaving the Force in the care of her father, who is dying, and her brother, who is as dumb as she is and evil on top of that. ...If these are the people who are basically running the universe at large, is it any wonder that the Chosen One is an idiot? I mean, come on...
Super Mario Cartoons
- The Super Mario Bros. Super Show episode "Do You Princess Toadstool Take This Koopa...?" has Bowser agree to change the Mushroom people back from identical green stones (which was the game's justification for power-ups in blocks) if Princess Toadstool agrees to marry him (hence the title). Behind her back, he breaks his promise and changes the Mushroom folks to stones again. Somehow, Mario and Luigi are able to figure out just which of those stones is Toad, despite the stones all looking alike. Then they use Bowser's magic wand to restore Toad and transform into their Super forms, after which the wand overheats and disintegrates. They did not use it to save the other Mushroom people, which would have made sense because they would then have a whole army with which to crash the wedding. Are those poor Mushrooms stuck as rocks forever?
- There is also the episode "The Great Gladiator Gig", where Mario and Luigi are fighting Triclyde from Super Mario Bros. 2, and Luigi gets caught in a net. Mario takes Triclyde's sword and cuts Luigi free and throws away the sword after doing so. Only in Saturday morning cartoons can you get away with throwing away swords in the middle of a fight...
- A Triclyde had a sword? How? Triclyde doesn't have arms!
- Triclyde was holding it in one of his mouths.
- The Super Mario World cartoon had one too, in "A Little Learning", where Iggy and Lemmy Koopa become students at Princess Toadstool's kindergarten. They build a volcano for their science project and connect it to some pipes filled with lava to come flowing out of the volcano for realism. Due to interference from Bowser (who didn't want them going to school), though, the volcano lets out too much lava, which threatens to overflow Dome City. Now when I was young, I thought that was what Iggy and Lemmy intended to do, but looking back on it, I notice that they never actually say anything in the episode about planning to send lava out on Dome City, and this is further evidenced because even Lemmy is shocked when the volcano erupts. But in the end, Toadstool expels the Koopa twins from her school, despite the fact that the incident was Bowser's fault and not theirs! Of course, it might have been because they also sabotaged Yoshi and Oogtar's project (which led to an even worse wallbanger of its own), but no one even knew they did that!
- For those of you wondering about the other wallbanger mentioned in the previous example, it's when the Piranha Plant used to sabotage the project ran out of the school during the eruption and proceeded to eat Bowser and the twins. Yoshi then steps in and eats the Piranha Plant. Then... he complains about not feeling good and spits out, not the Piranha Plant, but the Koopas - a feat which would defy the laws of physics if they applied to cartoons and which serves primarily to preserve the status quo. Okay, so our heroes would probably still have to deal with the other Koopalings even if Yoshi didn't spit them out, but still, it would have gotten three villains out of their hair for good...
- Wait, really? You want to have Yoshi eat/kill two kindergarten-aged children? Related to Bowser or not?
- For those who know the games, that makes perfect sense. Yoshi, in the games, cannot digest certain enemies. Yoshi might be able to digest a piranha plant, but he cannot digest Koopas. So it makes sense that he instantly digested the plant but spat the Koopas out — if you know the games... which is not an absolute given for the Saturday Morning Cartoon demographic.
- Actually, Yoshi can digest Koopas just fine, but only if they're not wearing their shell. It's the shells that give him problems. However, this would still give him a perfectly valid reason to be unable to digest Bowser and his kids.
- Yoshi also cannot digest heavy weight enemies. Even the smallest Koopalings has a much heavier frame than an ordinary Koopa despite being of a similar size.
Transformers
- Transformers Beast Machines: After treating him like The Load; insulting him; calling him useless to his face and behind his back, even after he relearns to transform; and, in general, being more or less completely hostile to their old friend - the Maximals are surprised when Rattrap goes to desperate measures - namely, cutting a deal with Megatron - to get some firepower and be of some use to the team.
- And then you get a bigger Wall Banger when Megatron, who until then hadn't exactly been trustworthy, keeps his end of the bargain. He could have defeated all the Maximals and won the final battle if he'd refused or if he'd double-crossed Rattrap. Made worse because, in Beast Wars, Megatron goes on a rant about how the concept of honor is for fools.
- Megatron isn't the only one who suffered from this as Rattrap, the same guy who prided himself on fighting dirty, actually proceeded to fulfill his end of the deal despite knowing that attacking Megatron at the time could win the Maximals the war. Worse, he was the one who realized that Megatron was weak in the first place. The Transformers Wiki
stated it best: "...either side could have potentially won the war right there, but the two characters with the least scruples suddenly became interested in fair play for no reason (other than to keep the series from ending, obviously)."
- The biggest Wallbanger of all was that not only are the Maximals surprised, but they also attack Rattrap, an ally, for protecting Megatron, even though it was the most tactically stupid thing they could possibly do. If they had left well enough alone or given him five seconds to explain, then come sunrise, Rattrap would have walked back to the team with a mech-suit arsenal of super-weapons with which to pulverize Megatron's forces. Did they do that? No. They attacked Rattrap. Then they delivered an Aesop to him about not attacking your friends or defenseless people because he responded.
- Commentaries explained Megatron's behavior. As the supposed savior of Cybertron has placed himself in position where he would have to keep his word as part of his new beliefs. As for Rattrap, he admits he originally intended to double-cross Megatron, but thanks to Megatron's playing to Rattrap's bruised ego, kept him from killing him
- Speaking of Beast Machines, the entire premise of the show is a sham; supposedly, the entire "technological perfection" vs "nature and free will" argument that the show's premise is based on was meant as a philosophical look into whether one can "live" in an increasingly technological society, and whether there can be a balance between industry and nature. Sweet, Anvilicious tripe, but here's the problem: by the time of Beast Wars continuity, Cybertron was already pursuing that balance, having developed technology to incorporate organic beast modes into their systems for leisurely exploration into other planets, and as Nightscream explains in his intro, had all internalized, in an off-screen upgrade. Rumor has it that Executive Meddling demanded continuity not be followed for the show, but Nightscream's statement remains in this show's own canon. So, to give An Aesop about technorganic balance, the show had to ignore the same technorganic balance the Transformers were already working toward? Or was the Oracle just too impatient to wait for the planet's evolution to technorganics on its own, and decided to force the evolution to happen on its own timeclock?
- What'e even worse, is that, when you think about it, this story could've been told far more competently and logically by keeping continuity with Beast Wars instead of disregarding it. Think about it; by the end of Beast Wars, the survivors have been altered anatomically to the point where it's unknown how or even if they could be reverted back to their original forms (btw, just how did the virus in Beast Machines override the Vok enhancements in the Maximals, but let Megatron keep his Dragon form?), and they are now privy to forbidden knowledge, not just of the Great War (that, as established below, was meant to be classified), but of the dirty little secrets of both the Maximal and Predacon ruling councils. So, if the executives wanted a "Rage Against The Machine, nature vs. technology" story, they could've used that as a basis, with the Maximals being hunted down by the general populace for their mutations (which, if the "Vok are the evolved Swarm" theory is used, could be contagious, fulfilling the "technorganic Cybertron" ending they were going for), and the government in order to shut them up and keep their knowledge from sparking a revolution. Just another example of how these Wall Bangers could've been avoided by good ol' Let's See YOU Do Better.
- One more on Beast Machines: The End of BW had Megatron's ass kicked in a major way, and him badly humiliated by being a hood ornament on their entire ride home. He was damaged in the fight. The transit through space couldn't have been kind. But lo and behold, all this is ignored with some vague time-dilation talk so that he can now become supreme ruler and nineteen kinds of invincible. That's right, total and utter defeat ensures your supreme victory.
- Beast Wars has a huge Wall Banger with its continuity — specifically, its continuity relative to G1. To avoid fan backlash, the writers strove to put G1 in the light of "Arthurian lore", building the implication of the series over time that general knowledge about the events of G1 was fuzzy and ill-defined, and any records of those events (especially regarding their connection to Earth) were tightly controlled by the government, preventing the public from clarifying the facts. Okay, all well and good, and they would've succeeded...had they not decided to use Ravage in the second season finale. Ravage, one of the original Decepticons on the Nemesis and possibly one of the oldest Transformers in existence. Once he showed up and confirmed that there were others from G1 alive and well during the series' timeline, the question of what they were doing all this time and why they didn't educate their descendants about their history overrode any attempt by the writers to maintain The Masquerade. Or should have.
- Perhaps many or all of the remaining G1 Transformers were, like Ravage, working for the same government(s) that were tightly controlling the records of the events of the events of G1?
- In ANOTHER comic series, three Generation One characters (Prowl, Ironhide, and Silverbolt *
the acrophobic leader of the Arielbots, not the Maximal ) are seen running the entire Maximal GOVERNMENT.
- That takes place after the cartoons. And it's not like they did anything to stop any of the other Autobots or the Decepticons/Predacons from delving into the past aside from classifying federal records. When you consider both Dinobot and Blackarachnia knew far more about G1 history than most of the other Transformers did, it becomes apparent that the classification of information in the Beast Wars universe isn't equal, raising the question of why G1 history is considered mythical.
- It's worse than that. Prowl and Ironhide died in the movie. They can't be online to run the Maximal government.
- Beast Wars wasn't fully based on either the cartoon or comic, but a blend of both. It was deliberately left vague with elements from both.
- Hey, Optimus Prime came back to life (twice), so why can't Prowl and Ironhide?
- The biggest Wall Banger in Beast Wars is in the first episode and the later seasons. Megatron's most publicized goal is that he wants to make it to Earth and change history. But before that, in the very first episode, he tells his computer that he doesn't CARE what planet he's on and that he only wants to exploit all of the planet's Energon. But in season two, he says he knew they were on Earth the whole time. So, what, he vocally lied to himself and his own equipment? Man, that is major denial!
- There are two explanations for that, one In-Universe and one meta. The in-story explanation is that, while this is what Megatron originally set out to do, he had second thoughts about messing with history and tried to avoid it for the first season. The meta explanation is that the staff (who made stuff up as they went along in the early stages) had yet to decide if the setting was Earth.
- They had them all take on the characteristics of Earth fauna and yet weren't sure this was Earth?
- Speaking of, how were they able to get a hold of modern Earth fauna forms at a point in Earth's history that includes pre-hominids? Shouldn't they have gotten stuff like Giant Sloths, smilodons and mammoths?
- Though the In-Universe brings up another Wall Banger, again related to Ravage; according to supplementary media, Megatron's plan to change history would've resulted in the destruction of all Transformers, as it required killing Optimus Prime, the holder of the Autobot Matrix of Leadership, which in turn was the only thing that could kill Unicron. No Prime, no Matrix, no way to stop Unicron from omnomnoming on Cybertron. Megatron likely knew this, and thus put it off as a last resort plan, only implemented when he had no other choice. However, Ravage was also present during the Unicron incident, and would also know the inherent dangers to the history-changing plan. So why would he be so easily convinced by Megatron to do it? Yeah, it took seeing a recording from the original (G1) Megatron detailing the plan to make him join up, but why? If anything, he should've pointed out that the plan was made before the threat of Unicron was even known (because Megatron would've been transformed into Galvatron, during that time, meaning the message would've been made before then) and continued to haul him in. Or is Ravage's devotion to the Decepticon cause just so great that he'll ignore his own experiences with the group to slag up history on orders from his dead commander made centuries ago? And before you answer, please keep in mind that, in his Beast Wars origins, Ravage left his fellow Decepticons for the Tripredacus council after his reformatting out of some disillusionment on his part, so he does have at least some history of abandoning the Decepticons if he feels it prudent to.
- Megatron seems to fall further and further into megalomania as the series progresses. Initially, all he seems to care about is getting Energon. It's only one failure after the next that his ambitions start growing. Seems like every defeat, he comes back with a greater and stronger ego. It's entirely possible that he did have the message from the original Megatron but didn't rightly care about it initially, and it's only after his growing psychosis that "KILL OPTIMUS PRIME, KILL THE UNIVERSE" started to sound like a good idea.
- The episode "Heavy Metal War" of the original series. Basically, Megatron challenges Optimus Prime to a one-on-one battle to end the war. Naturally, being the Big Bad, he cheats by transferring the powers of the other Decepticons to himself, and uses them to win the battle. Where's the Wall Banger, you ask? Prime acknowledges defeat and prepares to leave Earth, which wouldn't be so bad except that the Autobots have been fighting the Decepticons for centuries — long enough for the Autobots to know which Decepticon has which power — and that during the battle, Megatron was using powers he had NEVER used before! Hello, Prime? Are the lights burned out upstairs or something?
- Speaking of "Heavy Metal War," note that it was the first appearance of the Constructicons, who are said to have just been built by Megatron. But in Season 2's "The Secret of Omega Supreme," the Constructicons are said to be old friends of Omega that were forcibly reprogrammed by Megatron. (The time of these events is before the Ark crashed on Earth.) And then a flashback in Season 3's "The Five Faces of Darkness" five-parter shows the Constructicons... building Megatron. *beat* The term "continuity nightmare" is often used to describe this.
- Also from the original series is "Megatron's Master Plan" which involves the most idiotic of all deceptions. It should have been blatantly obvious to someone of average intelligence that the "Autobots" in the tapes were impostors that were acting REALLY badly. Also add in that the humans have witnessed repeated Decepticon attacks and that the human going along with this is already known to be untrustworthy.
- Those aren't wall-bangers compared to this one from G1: B.O.T. The WORST. EPISODE. EVER. IN. THE. HISTORY. OF. TRANSFORMERS. The episode that made T Fwiki itself "Good god, I need a stiff drink."
- For one thing, they make a robot with the ability to outsmart all the Autobots and Decepticons... USING BRAWL'S BRAIN. *
In case you were wondering, Brawl's an idiot. For another, they have absolutely NO idea who the Autobots are. This is the last episode of the SECOND season, and it was established that there are frickin' holidays dedicated to the 'bots in a previous episode!
- Transformers: The Movie has two of them certainly. Ones that aren't even 'debatable'. Both are from the attack on Autobot City:
- During the city transform, they showed oodles of BFGs being moved into place, to battle the Decepticons. A lot were set up against an air attack, since essentially all the 'Cons can fly in robot mode... Then in the wide view of the city battle, they were indeed flying, but NONE of the guns were firing. They only showed two of the smaller ones firing, at two different points in small angle. During the big angle, all the defense guns were silent.
- Second one, during the main of the attack. Their catapult/launcher to fire out one spot is a tracked vehicle. Presumably this is so it can turn to fire through three different firing slats. A tracked vehicle can be turned easily by running one track forward and the other backward, after all. During the movie, they PUSH IT SIDEWAYS AGAINST ITS TRACKS to put it into position, causing two people to strain, and only being done so two others could get there and they could poke a line in. GAH.
- Transformers Animated doesn't get off scott-free either. The episode where they introduce the Constructicons flat out transcends stupidity. The Constructicons are a simple pair of recently animated construction worker robots who only want to drink oil and build things. They're not the most responsible pair, and when Bulkhead brings them home, they nearly decapitate Sari by accident. Optimus is understandably outraged, but apparently forgets that they're in the middle of a bloody war and kicks the two out of his base, completely apathetic about what happens to them. Naturally the constructicons eventually run into the Decepticons - who the Autobots mentioned, but never went into detail about. When they see Megatron's plans, being construction workers, they offer him some construction tips, and their own services, on the grounds that Megatron can pay them in oil. When the constructicons next run into the Autobots, they're simply gathering materials to build the device, and greet their old friend Bulkhead, who's positively furious about them helping the Decepticons, despite the constructicons knowing exactly nothing about the war, or who they're helping, and rather than try to solve things diplomatically, turns violent. To top this off, when some bad oil winds up erasing the Constructicons' memories of the whole thing, Bulkhead still angrily attacks them and chases them off for crimes they can't even remember. So, rather than try to get on good terms with a pair of ultimately good natured newborns, the autobots unanimously turn violent and contemptful towards the two for having the audacity to try and be neighborly to a group of robots who've yet to do anything wrong to the two, and making NO real effort to get them to understand that there's a war going on.
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