Wall Bangers: Star Wars

Films with their own pages:

Original Trilogy:

  • Obi-Wan has two decades to consider what he will say to Luke about his father. Does he come up with something true but vague, like "Darth Vader was the downfall of Anakin Skywalker" that will point Luke in the desired direction? No, he says "Darth Vader betrayed and murdered your father", which Luke (very reasonably) considers to be a lie, when the truth comes out. (Of course, this is the result of George Lucas's retcon, but this is why the retcon is really problematic.)
  • Why are Luke and Leia twins? In the films, the familial relationship didn't... do much other than create Squick in Empire and settle a Love Triangle peacefully.
    • Like Darth Vader turning out to be Luke's father, Lucas only decided this between films.
  • In The Empire Strikes Back, Yoda says "Always in motion is the future", the general idea being that Jedi can see possible futures, but these visions are only really reliable within a fairly short period of time... so WHY are the Jedi betting everything on some vague prophecy that might refer to Anakin?
    • This is actually a case of Fridge Brilliance. The prophecy definitely refers to Anakin, as he's the only being purely conceived by the Force. He is, without a doubt, the Chosen One. The question, however, remained: would the Chosen One fulfill the rest of the prophecy, that is, bring balance to the Force? Since the future is always in motion, the Jedi could not be certain that Anakin would fulfill the prophecy. Along with respecting Qui-Gon Jinn's final wishes, this is the main reason the Jedi decided to ignore their reservations and to train Anakin in the ways of the Force, believing that the prophecy would more likely be fulfilled if he was trained in the ways of the Jedi, with tragic results.
      • As has been pointed out here before, this is a case where the Jedi should have been aware of Exact Words and Jedi Truth: Before Anakin became Darth Vader, there were hundreds, if not thousands of Jedi, and maybe what, a handful of Sith? The big question that should have been asked by every Jedi was "do we really want the Force balanced when we're on the good end of the stick right now?"
      • Word of God is that the Dark Side is itself a form of imbalance.
  • Rationalize it or hand wave it any way you like-the fact that the air vent on the Death Star was open is a Titanic level error. No force field, no deflector shield, not even a sodding steel mesh grate. Just a big wide doorway that leads directly into the heart of the ship that is large enough to fire a missile down. And it's not even as if the canyon that Luke flies through to reach it is even that well defended seeing how easily he dodges the laser fire; if wasn't for the pursuing Tie Fighters he arguably wouldn't have had any significant obstacles at all.
    • The vent did have a deflector shield, which is why the Rebels had to use missiles. "The vent is ray-shielded, so you'll have to use proton torpedoes." "What? That's impossible, even for a computer!"
    • Still no excuse for the shaft Palpatine is thrown down, however.
  • A man called Obi-Wan Kenobi goes into hiding. He goes by the name of Ben Kenobi-on his nemesis' home planet, no less. *Facepalm*
    • Granted, the planet in question is the butt-end of absolute nowhere, he picked the most obscure part of it to live in, and his nemesis really really does not want to go back there.
      • If it's that impossible that he could be tracked there, why bother changing it from Obi-wan at all? And if it's not SOOOOOO impossible that you feel that changing your name would provide some extra level of hiding, he could call himself anything, Ben Smith, Ben Jones. It's either "no one could possibly find me here, so why bother changing even one name" or "if there's the off chance someone could find me here, why bother changing ONLY one name".
      • An episode of ''The Clone Wars'' has Obi-Wan refer to himself as Ben. So he used the name prior to his exile; it just doesn't seem to be the one anyone but him remembers...which doesn't explain why people called him that after nineteen years on Tatooine....
    • Gonna guess that Obi-Wan was originally intended as a Jedi name or something that he achieved after becoming a Master and Lucas just forgot to check his notes before doing the prequels.
  • This troper was particularly bugged by the scene where Han gets frozen in carbonite. Before he gets frozen, Han is hand-cuffed and calmly walks onto the platform, with his head raised milliseconds before he's frozen. After he gets frozen, which is rather immediate, the block of carbonite shows him raising his hands with no handcuffs in sight and look of pure terror on his face. The latter I can forgive, but...
    • The Ugnaught engineers removed his handcuffs just before he was lowered into the freezing chamber.
    • He also had cuffs on his upper arms, connected by a chain going behind his back, and they didn't remove those. Still, when he's unfrozen in the next movie, there's no sign of them, and he didn't emerge naked.
  • At the Battle of Endor in Return of the Jedi, the Rebel fleet is somehow trapped between the Death Star and the Imperial fleet, just waiting to be picked off by the Death Star's superlaser or fire coming from the Star Destroyers. However, the writers seem to have forgotten that they are in space and space is big. The smaller and more maneuverable Rebel ships (as compared to the huge and ponderous Imperial Star Destroyers) should have simply been able to slip around behind, above or below the Death Star, thus rendering its powerful Fixed Forward-Facing Weapon effectively useless, as well as forcing the Imperials to break up their fleet formation. This is made even worse by the fact that the battle was taking place in orbit above a planet-sized moon. Rebel ships could have spread out, using the horizon of Endor itself as a barrier to the Imperials, who would have had to chase them around it. No particular reason as to why the Rebel fleet had to remain positioned in formation in front of the Death Star was given, especially since Admiral Ackbar's originally-stated battle plan called for them to "create a perimeter" around the Death Star while fighters made the actual attack on the interior.

Meta:

  • Okay...so George Lucas goes on at great length about how the reason he resolved never to make another Star Wars film, handing it over to Disney, was out of frustration over the fact that he couldn't please the fans. Okay, George...let's recap:
    • After the experiences with the classic trilogy made it clear to everyone—INCLUDING YOU—that your dialogue skills are AWFUL—you decided to neglect to bring in the one surefire guarantee that the prequels' dialogue wouldn't stink—i.e. Lawrence Kasdan—and resolved to write the screenplays yourself.
    • For the classic trilogy, you still had final creative control. And yet you had the good sense to bring in directors who actually could...you know...direct. Cut to the prequels, where you apparently think that the ONLY one who could POSSIBLY do your movies justice is you. Cue Hayden Christensen as Anakin hamming it up and Natalie Portman nearly suffering the destruction of her acting career.
    • And for all the above...you...had the gall...to go "Never My Fault" and blame the fans for their issues with the prequels? For calling you out on issues you used to be aware of? You claim nothing you could've done could please them? CRY. ME. A RIVER!!!