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The sheer quantity of works allow for plenty of Wall Bangers to accumulate over the years.
Though special mention goes to the following:
In Civil War: Frontline #11, reporter Sally Floyd accuses Captain America of being out of touch with the "real America" because he's focused on moral values such as truth, justice, and freedom, as opposed to the pop-cultural shallowness that she and all the "average Americans" she knows focus on, such as American Idol, MySpace, and YouTube. That concentrated essence of outspoken stupidity instantly cemented Sally Floyd's status as the Stupidest Person In Comics and the Goddess of it.
It's not just that Sally Floyd is an incredible jackass. It's clear from the writing, particularly from the way that a man famous for speeches about doing the right thing no matter what bows his head and accepts this, that we're supposed to be on her side. According to the writers, MySpace, YouTube and American Idolare more important to Americans than truth, justice, freedom, and democracy. Even if they're right, it feels wrong.
Thankfully, other Marvel comics started to criticize this. For instance, Floyd is ridiculed for it in the Patriot issue of a Young Avengers mini-series. Moon Knight also saved her from some street thugs in his own comic, and then stated that if he had known who she was, he wouldn't have bothered to help her.
World War Hulk: Frontline parodies this with Top 10 Reasons to Hate Sally Floyd. #1 features her drunkenly kicking dirt onto Captain America's grave and asking him when was the last time he posted on YouTube. Also there was the time she dated Captain Rectitude, which is apparently "you don't want to know" territory.
For many who didn't have a problem with Floyd spewing such ignorance (Far too many people IRL feel that way), but had a MAJOR problem with Cap sitting there, shame-faced, taking it. (Which is one of the major reasons the "Cap's Response◊" photoshop is so popular)
Cap himself provides material for one of these, when he says that all America accomplished World War II was "wasting the potential of a million young men." Firstly, that statement is factually incorrect - US casualties in WWII were less than half of that number. Secondly, whilst war is tragic and never to be condoned, America fought against two of the most evil systems of government in the world. There is no way those young men "wasted" their lives, and it demeans their sacrifice to suggest that they did. He also suggests that America "didn't know what it was getting into", which is untrue - America wasn't "getting into" anything. Roosevelt and some others wanted to get involved, but couldn't until America was dragged into WWII by Japan and Germany's aggression. All in all, the gist of Cap's speech is that America shouldn't have got involved in WWII, which not only doesn't gel with his previous characterization, is also morally untenable - what was America supposed to do? Let either Nazism or Communism overrun Europe and Japanese colonial occupation overrun Asia? Sure! The world would be in great shape these days!
This becomes even worse was you remember that Steve willingly signed up for WWII (In fact, he was refused for being sickly) to stop Nazi Germany and would not have gotten his powers had he not put his potential in the position to "be wasted." This troper is pretty much certain that the above statement was just an attempt to villainize Cap, and is still an incredibly distasteful thing to use to do that.
In the same issue that she declares her opinion on what the American way is, Sally Floyd and Ben Urich confront Iron Man and tell him that they found out about his plan to start a war with Atlantis in order to make the pro- and anti-registration sides join forces against a common enemy. That plan would also have provided him with some tidy war profits from Stark Industries' contracts with SHIELD, which he would then funnel into his pet projects like nanite-controlling supervillains, prisons in the negative zone, and cloning his dead friend, who happens to be a God. Anyone who has ideas like that cannot be trusted with the power Stark got after Civil War. But Floyd and Urich, without any logical reason, decide not to tell the public about Stark's plan and applaud him for his stoic "heroism." And they dare call themselves reporters!
This is the moment that cemented Iron Man as a villain, even though the writer Paul Jenkins intended to show what he planned as a necessary evil or "shooting the dog." Starting a war that could kill millions of civilians because of a comparatively "trivial" issue of a few hundred people blowing up is beyond excuse. And this is coming from someone who otherwise agreed more with Iron Man's argument than with Cap's, but it also completely contradicts Stark's otherwise extreme philanthropic, heroic moral fiber, and the story has been completely ignored and never referred to again by anyone. Which still isn't the right approach of course, as it is still in continuity. Better to offhand retcon it into a Skrull, mind-control, or similar.
He was going to start this war by having a nanite-controlled Norman Osborn, aka the Green Goblin, shoot an Atlantian Ambassador at a diplomatic negotiation! <shudder> To keep Osborn from revealing this, he puts him in charge of the other nanite-controlled supervillains of the Thunderbolts, which put Norman in a position to take over SHIELD after Tony screws up during the Secret Invasion.
Pretty much everything related to Civil War was a horrific Wall Banger, though the height of awful was Tony Stark's completely irrational Face-Heel Turn (and the writers' insistence that it was in-character and hero-compatible and not a Face-Heel Turn) from a man with such deep moral principles and who strongly rejected the "ends justify the means" philosophy that a major part of his origin story has him convert Stark Industries from an arms manufacturer to a futuristic technology R&D because he found the idea of developing lethal weapons abhorrent, funded the Avengers and used his money and influence to vigilantly protect them all from exactly the same kind of crap they were subjected to after the bombing that kicked off Civil War, whose Rogues Gallery included people who wanted to take over Stark Industries to develop the same kind of amoral abominations that Nazi-Stark used during Civil War, and who for decades had been portrayed as a person who would do anything for his friends and colleagues (especially his BFF Captain America), including sacrifice his life in a heartbeat several times over rather than risk one of theirs; into a ruthless manipulative Nazi who would engage in any number of horrific actions just because he though a SHRA was a good idea that should be implemented. Not to mention that he knows perfectly well how dangerous superheroes handing over their secrets is, and has refused to create blueprints for or tell anyone how to make his Iron Man armor out of fear that the information could fall into the wrong hands and be used for destruction.
Also, Reed Richards being Pro-Reg in the first place, when in the past he explicitly said the idea of a SHRA was a stupid idea and spent an entire issue (Fantastic Four #336) outlining the reasons for why passing one would cause more harm than good. And no, he never was shown changing his mind, since he has always had an extremely dim opinion of the government's ability to deal with superheroes. It was just a irrational flash of whatthehellery that handwaved decades of past characterization. Not to mention that he is so ethical he once saved Galactus's life because he could not rationalize letting an unmalicious being die, yet during Civil War decided it was a good idea to make, program, and sic an evil Thor clone on his friends.
In Ultimate Fantastic Four, evil zombie counterparts of the eponymous team are locked up in a high security cell. Evil!Mister Fantastic tells the guards that he converted a ballpoint pen into a teleporter and is about to set the team free. The four disappear, and the guards think they are gone and open the door to the cell. What they planned to do if it had been a teleporter is unknown. But stopping a second to consider that one of the baddies involved could turn things and people invisible would have been a good idea.
It's not entirely outside the realm of possibility that Reed Richards could make a teleporter out of a pen, some hair and mashed potatoes. But the stupidity of opening the door immediately is not as bad as the fact that their holding cell doesn't have any readily accessible method of detecting otherwise invisible captives, given Sue's powers.
In the same storyline, Richards refuses to kill the zombies even though he knows they are literally endangering all of humanity (it took the zombie virus literally 24 hours to wipe out their own world). There's a moral code, and then there's just stupidity...
JMS retconned Uncle Ben's death as having occurred OUTSIDE and revealed that Ben had argued with Aunt May before he died — which made his death MAY'S fault. Marvel Comics left that in continuity and had to counter-claim it. That's Marvel Comics for ya.
Another Spider-Man one: "Sins Past", where we find out that Gwen Stacy, in a moment of weakness, slept with Norman Osborn and got pregnant with twins; now the kids are back (with a Plot-Relevant Age-Up) and out to get Spider-Man. The original plan was that they were Peter's kids, but Quesada ruled that Pete was (or should be) too young to be a father. Unfortunately, this is still canon in the 616 Marvel Universe.
To add insult to injury, Peter's reaction to learning this was ridiculous. He cried a bit, broke some furniture... and that's it. His only thoughts about kids are "They are all that's left of Gwen." Never mind that their father is his archenemy who killed his brother and his own child. And later he keeps her photo in his room. So Peter still views Gwen as some kind of a saint when a revelation like THIS should have shattered that image forever. That's a major Moral Dissonance. And, even though MJ hid this truth from him during their whole relationship, this never caused any problems later... If it had, we could've been spared that Deal with the Devil and its attendant baggage.
After his Aunt May's wedding, Parker gets hammered and sleeps with his roommate Michelle (also drunk). Later they "reveal" that Michelle slipped Parker cider when he wasn't looking, so HIS inebriation was due to his own lack of experience being drunk.
After Peter attends Aunt May's wedding, and starts drinking heavily when he sees Mary Jane, he wakes up in bed the next morning with Michele, his Tsundere roommate. Fair enough. He accidentally calls her "MJ". She throws him out of the house. She later leaves cookies out, but padlocks the fridge so Peter can't get any milk. The Chameleon later imitates Peter and sleeps with Michele, and she thinks they're now boyfriend and girlfriend. Peter doesn't tell her what happened, until she ticks him off by forcing a curfew on him. She doesn't believe him, and punches him. When Peter's coworker ticks her off, she draws a line down the apartment, and destroys any of Peter's things on "her" side. At this point, the character is basically >90% Yandere, by volume.
And fans still preferred her to Carlie.
As if One More Day wasn't bad enough, Quesada has introduced Carlie Cooper, a new woman being pushed as Peter Parker's soul-mate, to the point where even MJ is telling him to be with her. Aside from being such a blatant Creator's Pet who looks more like Peggy Hill than anyone you'd want to date, there's two major problems with this: Carlie is supposed to be a stand-in for Joe Quesada's daughter to the point of being named after her...and Joe is using Peter as a stand-in for himself to the point of his looking like Joe in later issues. It may not be intentional, but it's still Squick.
The amount of Creator's PetCharacter Shilling going on with Carlie Cooper is bad enough, but the fact that their main strategies for trying to get fans to accept her as Peter's new girlfriend consist of that, and derailing every othercharacter to do so. And of course, like all of Quesada's finest work, most of it is targeted at Mary-Jane. Although they've really taken the cake when they even went so far as to suggest Mary-Jane only loved Peter because he was Spider-Man, from PETER'S OWN MOUTH... Yeah, no she didn't. Otherwise she wouldn't have rejected Peter's marriage proposals twice, or refused dating him seriously for so long, when canonically she knew he was Spider-Man since the night Uncle Ben was killed. And in the retconned history presented in One Moment in Time she even refuses to marry him outright because he was Spider-Man. It doesn't even make sense in the newer continuity presented! Linkara went through a pretty damn big rant when JLA: Act of God suggested Lois only loved and married Clark for Superman. Can anyone imagine the rant he would go through if he ever reviewed the storyline where this was brought up?
As the issues go on, it seems the current staff behind Spider-Man are trying their absolute hardest to make the fanbase like Carly, both as a character and as Peter's new girlfriend... it isn't working. All of their attempts are so far, making the fanbase dislike her even more and hoping for the day when him and Mary-Jane will be back together (should that day come). And relating to that last part in context with the first... throughout every single one of her appearances, Carly's design has never stayed consistent outside of her having glasses. She's gone from blonde, to brunette, to ginger whilst going from long hair, to shoulder length hair, to short hair, as well as having an incredibly non-distinctive facial design. So, when it looked like Peter was about to get into bed with a long-haired redhead with freckles in Amazing Spider-Man #658, certain fans were quick to point out that Carly looked suspiciously like Mary-Jane. What's wrong with this?... Making a disliked love interest look more like a more popular love interest, is not going to make people accept the status quo. If anything, it'll only help reinforce they want the old one back. And of course, there's the matter that Peter and Carly are already trying to sleep together here... when they've barely had any time to develop a their relationship, especially compared with every single other prominent love interest Peter has ever had (making Carly the very definition of a Relationship Sue).
ASM #659 has Carlie getting upset after finding out Peter lied to her, getting drunk, and plotting a way to get back at him. How? By getting a tattoo...of the Green Goblin. The guy who murdered Peter's first girlfriend. Especially galling when you consider that Gwen Stacy was retconned to be a childhood friend of Carlie.
But in #660, it turns out that the tattoo she got was of Spider-Man's head instead. You heard that right, Spider-Man's head! This turned out to be a blatant Bait and Switch, all to make it clear just how perfect Carlie is!
However as of Spider Island's Finale, Carlie has broken up with Peter. And there was great joy in the land.
And worse, The Green Goblin is now a symbol of White Supremacy in the Marvel Universe... For some reason. So, not only was she planning to get the tattoo of someone who killed his girlfriend and her childhood friend, but its also a symbol of Neo Nazism. While she doesn't go through with it, to even contemplate doing that makes her one of the least likable people since Sally Floyd.
Even worse, Carlie is now one of the select few that know Peter and Spider-Man are the same person. This is something that only a privileged few get to know, and not even Aunt May is privy to that information anymore. What's worse, it's was argued that she could "totally handle" the information had Peter just told her. But May, who we do know can handle it and handle it well, is still left in the dark and still argued that she couldn't deal with Peter being Spider-Man even though there are years of stories that show otherwise. So a character that has barely been in the book (and most likely won't be in the book for very long) is allowed to be in on the inner circle of a very private and exclusive club, but a character that has been in the books for decades and was previously one of these few secret keepers is no longer allowed to know.
Not only that, but her finding out REALLY proves otherwise. When she found out, her reaction was to break up with him and call him out on lying to her, despite the fact that he's been Spider-Man a LOT longer than he knew her and all. So, this raises two points: Carlie's supposed ability to handle it is complete bull, and Carlie Cooper is now a non-rescuing example of an Entitled Bastard. Let me explain that, Carlie Cooper seems to think that Peter 'should have told her the truth' and shouldn't of lied to her about being Spider-Man, except that they'd ONLY JUST started going out. Did she just expect him to tell her when they first met, or during conversation? Peter would need to build up to telling her something so big, and she acts like she deserved to know it. If they were dating BEFORE he became Spider-Man, than sure, not telling her would be bad, but in universe, they've only known each other for about a year (a couple more in real life), and he hasn't told people like Harry or Robbie or even Aunt May (well, she DID know for a while, but not anymore) despite knowing them much longer. In short, she somehow feels she's entitled into his secret and he betrayed her by treating her as equally as he did with his family and friends. Bitch.
Another big 'Carlie is great' moment of hackery would be one of the following issues after Spider-Island. Just when people were thinking that the writers had realized she was a horrible character and Peter and MJ were going to be finally reunited, somewhat evidensed by the fact that Joe Quesada had been replaced as EIC nearly a year ago and his current whereabouts unknown, with his name no longer popping up much, They decide to give one more fuck you to Carlie's detractors. In a moment of total Suefication, Carlie is the only person in the New York police department, or at least of the precinct she works at, who notices that the 'obvious accidental suicide victim' was too far from any great height to have caused his own death. Her captain, for some reason, rights it off as nonsense and ignores the obvious, until she points out why, which to anyone capable of becoming a police chief would have been obvious. To make her look like The Woobie, the chief then kicks her off the case for making him look stupid, forcing her to do the case herself when the chief closes it, and absolutely no one points it out. Its an utter insult to every real life police officer to say they could ever possibly be that incompetent to both miss obvious clues and to close a case just to spite one person. Its insulting to the readers to believe they would believe something would ever happen and that they would really have any sympathy for her in an obviously Idiot Plot set up. And lastly, its almost a spit in the face to think any human being would ever be such a douche to do something like that, regardless of their position of power. This officially laments Carlie as the Creator's Pet. This is the moment that makes you realize that she's on par with Wesley Crusher.
If Chuck Austen is loathed for any one thing (though there are many), then it's the storyline known as "The Draco" from his run on Uncanny X-Men. Here's a summary: it turns out Nightcrawler is the son of a demon named Azazel. No, wait, Azazel's just an immortal mutant who was banished to an alternate dimension, and it turns out that the angels and demons of Biblical myth were all early mutants. Oh, and Archangel's one of them, so his blood burns Nightcrawler. Until then, Nightcrawler was a devout Catholic, and his demonic looks were supposed to be ironic.
The entire plot of the Draco involved Kurt's devil-lookin' daddy teleporting out of Limbo to knock up women to sire him some teleporting young'uns that he can use to.... get out of Limbo? Yeah, you read that right.
It turns out Nightcrawler's entire religious education and time as a priest was part of a brainwashing operation by an anti-mutant group that also hates the Catholic Church. They planned to get Nightcrawler installed as the Pope and then have his image inducer fail so he can be "revealed" as the Antichrist, while they simulate the Rapture using communion wafers that dissolve those who imbibe them.
From the same story: "Your power to detonate the air into superhot plasma, and, when pushed, to blow up people's brains from the inside, cannot affect me! I have stitched my eyes shut!" It's a paraphrase, but that's exactly what happened in-story. Luckily, Iceman then casually kills the villain in question by sucking out her body's moisture.
The "fake Rapture via disintegrating communion wafers" needs further explanation to understand the sheer, raw, blistering fail of it all. After a bunch of X-Men are lynched, the X-Men track the lynchers back to a church that Nightcrawler says made him a priest. Turns out he was made a priest by an insane Catholic sect (with its own pope!) as part of the most circuitous plan in the history of supervillains: Nightcrawler would be made a priest (done!) and then he would be made pope (how?); then they would have his hologram projector fail and reveal him to be a mutant and "the devil" and then use bioweapons hidden in communion wafers across the nation to stage a false Rapture. After this, mutantkind would be hunted down and killed (why?), and mankind would turn to the Church of Humanity to find salvation (why?) after western civilization falls... for some reason. Now, presumably, if you have ever read an X-Men comic or, you know, a book in your life, then you understand all the flaws in this plan...for instance, Catholics don't believe in the Rapture...but beyond that, it raises a myriad of questions it utterly fails to answer. What happened to the rest of the communion wafers? (You know, the ones in the other churches.) How did this sect get its own pope? Why was this pope female? Why Nightcrawler? Why not any other mutant? (Okay, those last two can be guessed.) Why, just why?
And then we have Iceman shattered in thousand of pieces. The other X-Men come up with a plan to revive him: "Well, both ice and the human body are made mostly of liquids, so why don't we all just urinate on his remains?" Squick. Basically, Ice-Man just revived himself after overhearing that plan.
Austen's thankfully retconned treatment of She-Hulk. Shipping She-Hulk and Juggernaut is wrong on... several levels, the obvious ones being professional, ethical, moral, and his having tried to kill her cousin. She-Hulk hasn't shied away from sleeping around, but she beat the SHIT out of Tony Stark just for sending her cousin to another planet (although she did sleep with him at some point, that point was before she discovered he did that). But by science, Chuck doesn't need logic, continuity, or anything else to fuel him - just his own uber-hackery! Why should a tiny thing like attempted murder of family members factor into such things as sexual partners? Dan Slott retconned this and many other things by explaining that there's a universe that used the regular Marvel Universe for recreation, and so all the times people appeared in the wrong uniforms or Out of Character... those were just people from another universe... PRETENDING to be those people.
This was retconned back. Someone up there must like She-Hulk/Juggernaut.
A whole slew of She-Hulk wallbangers from the pen of Peter David (who should know better): After She-Hulk was fired from her law firm and disbarred note a different comic series revealed that she disclosed privileged information about a client in a fit of rage, which was a wallbanger in itself she became a bounty hunter. While on the road she was present at an incident where an alien terrorist murdered a woman who was out camping with her husband. Long story short, She-Hulk resolved the situation with the help of an alien bounty hunter and continued on her way. Later she found out the husband to the murdered woman was arrested. The police didn't believe his story that "space aliens did it" (probably not his exact words) and assumed he killed her himself. Now, you would think the obvious solution to this problem would be for She-Hulk to walk up to the front desk of the police station and say "That man is innocent, he's telling the truth, I was there." Especially since the husband specifically named her as a corroborating witness. But does she do that? NO! She instead decides to merely visit him in his cellnote Incidentally, this is a wallbanger within a wallbanger. In order to see the husband while he was in a jail cell She-Hulk would have had to ask permission at the front desk of the police station. If she had, the cops would have naturally asked her why she wanted to see him in the first place. Which would have forced her to reveal that, yes, she was in fact present for the entire incident, just as the husband said she was, and she could corroborate his entire story. At the very least the police would have required her to make an official statement and would probably have released the husband altogether. In other words, She-Hulk somehow managed to visit a murder suspect in jail without telling the police why she was there. The pain you are feeling in your forehead right now is from the impact of your head against the nearest desk and/or wall. and ends up spending a night in jail herself after she accidentally rips the door off the husband's cell. Oh, but wait, it's not over yet. After spending a night in jail because of her own inexplicable stupidity, she shows up in court the next day and attempts to testify on the husband's behalf. At his arraignment hearing. A hearing where, by definition, no witness testimony is heard. The judge himself chastises her for not knowing this. Apparently Peter David expects us to believe that in the short time since being disbarred She-Hulk has somehow A) forgotten 3 years of law school and who knows how many years of personal experience as one of the most successful attorneys in New York City, and B) taken up juggling Idiot Balls. In the end She-Hulk had to resolve the situation by metaphorically crawling back on her hands and knees to her old law firm (which she was on very bad terms with at the time) and begging her old rival Mallory Book to come to her rescue and get the charges dropped. Which, incidentally, she accomplishes by slapping together a phony-baloney "national security" defense that renders the defendant's testimony classified information note a defense which would have been illegal for her to make since she had to know it was false and dragging Tony Stark along with her (in full costume no less) to back it up. There was, quite literally, no good reason for any of the above to have occurred. The only purpose of the story was to humiliate She-Hulk, give Tony Stark a Pet the Dog moment, and squeeze in another idiotic "superheroes are evil" rant in the wake of Civil War and World War Hulk.
Oh, hey, here's another wallbanger related to that story. As a bounty hunter She-Hulk works for a bail bond company known as Freeman Bonding Inc. which she abbreviates to "FBI" when she's working. She does this because, no joke, people "don't know to ask" what the acronym stands for and assume she means the Federal Bureau of Investigation. In other words, She-Hulk is impersonating a law enforcement officer.
The police don't believe in aliens. This is a universe where superheroes (some of whom are aliens) and villains (again, some of whom are ALIENS) exist, and they don't believe in aliens?! There's Arbitrary Skepticism, and there's plain moronic, and this firmly falls into the later catergory.
Another exhibit of "Why Chuck Austen Should Never Be Allowed To Handle Romance Ever": his treatment of Hank Pym, Janet van Dyne, and Clint Barton during his run on The Avengers — specifically, the decade-late resurrection of the "WIFE BEATER" meme and his failure at treating the characters as anything more than cardboard cut-outs with writer-imposed Issues pasted on.
Speaking of X-Men, Scott Summers marries someone who looks like Jean, and we are expected to believe that it's not a rebound. When Jean comes back, he isn't excused for abandoning his wife; but the only way the writers knew to fix it was to make Madelyne a clone of Jean. Then they not only made her immediatelyAx-Crazy and evil, but also told us that she was Ax-Crazy and evil ever since Scott left.
Then some guys Running the Asylum, declare that they didn't like Jean coming back, and order Grant Morrison to kill her off and have Scott start dating Emma over Jean's grave. To justify this, Jean's ghost made Scott forget his feelings for her to keep him from leaving the X-Men. But the way it's done makes it look as though she cares about nothing but Scott's happiness, which is not in any way what Jean was like before. Not to mention how crapily used Scott was, see below.
Not many people realize it, but Scott Summers is the Butt Monkey of the Marvel Universe. Writers LOVE doing bad things to him AND making him look bad at the same time.
Black Panther refuses to reveal the cure for cancer to the outside world because Western Leaders are unwilling to or incapable of granting the King of Wakanda proper respect. It's probably "incapable of" because Western leaders cannot possibly know what proper respect would entail. There's a flashback scene with T'Challa's father that also covers this territory: Ambassadors of the various Western powers offered him literally anything he wanted regarding trade terms, only asking for access to Wakanda's vibranium in return. T'Chaka sneered at them for assuming he could be bought off 'cheaply' and then went into a full "The Reason You Suck" Speech about every part of the world that wasn't Wakanda. Why did T'Chaka bother showing up at this trade summit if he was prepared to insultingly reject a blank check? What on Earth could be more generous than "We'll pay any price you ask"?
Elevating Wakanda, which was previously on par with the rest of the world technologically until T'Challa took the throne, into a Mary Suetopia that has been light-years ahead of the rest of the world, including that cure for cancer that they won't share.
During a diplomatic meeting with T'Challa and Storm, Dr. Doom remarks that "the African is a superior physical specimen." A scientific genius like Doom buying into eugenics? Must be a racist Doombot. (He could have been sweet-talking them, but that isn't normally Doom's style.)
Stormsuddenly falling in love with Black Panther and marrying him. This was done solely to have a "strong black couple". No one at Marvel seemed to have a problem with taking the tough, independent leader of the Uncanny X-Men and making her a supporting character in a book with one-third the sales. Hudlin seems to honestly believe that the most powerful black heroine becoming the bride of the most impressive black hero is thematically fitting, long overdue Character Development.
Tucked into X-Men: First Class #4, we have this: While going hand to hand with the mercenary Nightshade, Storm, in the middle of her Shut Up, Hannibal! speech, talks about how she grew up in the slums of Cairo and knew all about life on the streets. Then she met a young man who "showed [her] a better way" and inspired her to be a better person. Here, there is a side insert of what is clearly a young T'Challa. In other words, she would have still been a street rat in Cairo when Professor X found her if not for T'Challa. Doubly Wallbanging because it derailed a nifty Crowning Moment of Awesome for Ororo.
In Christopher Priest's run, there is a World War II flashback in which Captain America encounters T'Chaka when they stray too close to Wakanda. Thinking it's an invasion, T'Chaka attacks Cap; they fight to a standstill before the misunderstanding is cleared up. T'Chaka allows Cap to follow him to Wakanda, where T'Chaka gives him a nugget of vibranium as a display of respect. Cap responds in kind, giving him his original shield. Hudlin apparently didn't like the thought of a black man and a white man being equals, and so he rewrote the story so T'Chaka just kicked Cap's ass and that was the end of it.
Speaking of racism, one issue has Panther helping a group of Skrulls in human form being oppressed by other Skrulls in human form. In an amazing coincidence, all the oppressed Skrulls look like black people, and all the oppressor Skrulls look like white people. The leader of the oppressed Skrulls looks like Martin Luther King Jr. Subtle, Hudlin.
It's even seeped into Marvel vs. Capcom 3; Storm's ending? She starts getting mopey about fighting a seemingly losing battle against tolerance (how ironic), and is cheered up by T'Challa... by pimping the awesomeness of Wakanda and that, as long as she loves him and swears to protect the land, she's doing "good". Yeah, way to turn An Aesop about The Power of Love into another Creator's Pet message for your own bigoted view of blacks, Hudlin.
The Iron Man: Viva Las Vegas Limited Series began with Tony Stark enjoying a nice relaxing plane flight over Paris, only for it to be interrupted by a suicide bomber who begins making threats. Stark promptly puts on his outfit and hurls the man outside, saving the day...and causing those dirty nasty French passengers to call him a brute and a bully; they note how the nice man strapped with C4 was willing to negotiate. Because, of course, all us non-Americans pray for the day where we can sit & negotiate with a psychopathic madman 10,000 feet in the air and would be insulted if an American in a cool high-tech suit saved our lives.
They're probably just jealous that he has a powersuit and they don't.
It manages to be a wall-banger the OTHER way, too. The man in the flying bomb-proof armor didn't bother to follow the bomber out the door and take him alive - not even to interrogate him. Or prevent a needless death. It's not like he would have had to return the terrorist to the plane.
He decided that it was just fine to threaten a suicide bomber in a plane full of innocent civilians who would die if the suicide bomber decided to set off the bomb.
Suicide bombers tend to, y'know, die. It's not like he was going to hold still while Iron Man patiently disarmed the bomb, one-handed, in the middle of a jetstream.
This is Iron Man we're talking about. If he can't disarm a bomb in midair then there is some serious character derailment going on.
Grant Morrison's New X-Men - The twist that Xorn (a superpowered being who was locked up in a Chinese prison for having a black hole contained in his head) was Magneto. That specific plot twist was built up for two years, and was interesting and unexpected. You can't believe you didn't see it coming. The Man from Room X turning out to be the X-Men's biggest enemy was critically-praised and was the most interesting thing to happen to the franchise in years. The problem is how it was handled after that. It turned out that it wasn't Magneto. No, Xorn just thought he was and looked just like Mags. Oh, and Xorn has a brother with the same powers and the personality he pretended to have as one of the X-Men, just so that they'd still be able to use either character. The status quo IS God, huh?
Magneto: That wasn't me. Wolverine: Oh really now? Magneto: That was actually Xorn's evil twin brother, possessed by the sentient mold Sublime, pretending to be me, pretending to be Xorn. Beast: That defies all logic!
Also during the run was the Scott/Emma/Jean love triangle. Scott, suffering from PTSD, starts doubting everything in is life, including his marriage to Jean. When Jean seeks solace in Wolverine, Emmatakes advantageof the situation by offering Scott therapy lessons with her previously never-mentioned psychology degrees. Cue her then giving him 'sexual therapy' where she deals with his issues by mind sex. OK, most of the characters and readers agree this is wrong, however, they make the mistake of calling Scott out when, legally, this is rape. Scott is a patient, Emma is treating him and convinces him that sleeping with her in his mind is a good idea, that's blatantly taking advantage of someone who's in a vulnerable state. Had their genders been swapped, people would be up in arms over it. Yet nobody at all in the story calls Emma out except Jean, only for Xavier to call Jean out on this because Emma as only doing it because she's in love with Scott. Then, when Scott is tossed into another bout of depression he decides to sort everything out, only for Jean to die in battle before he could tell her how he feels, followed by Jean coming back in the future and a long convoluted series of events leading to her making Scott move on with his life and get with Emma. At no point has anyone in the various X-Men books called out Emma, who in the end is rewarded by being promoted to headmistress and co-leader of the team, on the fact she got to where she is by taking advantage of someone's mental issues and rape.
In Ultimate Marvel's Crisis Crossover event Ultimatum, every character insists on referring to every other character by name, which is bad writing. The random deaths of characters have long since ceased to be interesting. The thing that sends the comic flying at the wall? Wasp is dead, and the Blob is eating her.
This happened less than a month after her 616-verse counterpart was given a badly-handled death at the end of Secret Invasion.
This was after her magical transformation from Asian to White in Ultimates 3, right?
Wasp caused a few Wall Bangers herself. When Captain America gets squicked by Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch's incestuous relationship, Janet insults him for having outdated 1940s morality and being unable to accept that "love is love" in any form. And apparently, the reader is meant to agree with Wasp.
Avengers Disassembled. It retconned out that Wanda already remembered her children to justify her going insane at the revelation of them. Then there's Doctor Strange's stupid comment about chaos magic not existing when he himself had used it in past stories. (This ended up being one of the big factors taken on in the What If...? for the story. Strange claimed that he'd been busy elsewhere, and that the one they saw at the destroyed Avengers Mansion was a decoy made by Wanda.) The Avengers hand Wanda over to Magneto with no questions asked. This was what set upHouse of M, one of the most hated storylines in X-Men history. And then there was the writer's I Meant to Do That at the end. If he had known as much about continuity as those tossed-in pages implied, then the story never would have happened in the first place.
Then there's the fact that Wanda, whose powers had been impressive enough but not outlandish, suddenly became omnipotent, on a level that she could threaten the existence of not just the multiverse, but the entire omniverse. She could now eat the original version of the Beyonder for breakfast and use Galactus as a toothpick if she wanted. Not only is no explanation given for how this happened, but none of her friends even try to figure out how it happened.
The existence of at least one What If? issue dedicated to this mess means there is at least one alternate world with another version of Wanda capable of erasing all reality. Probably more. Even Mad Jim Jaspers and the (sigh)Marquis of Death were at least established to be unique in the multiverse. If there are a bunch of batshit-crazy omnipotent Wandas running around, how is anything still here?
Even without going into all the retcons and general nonsense, there's the conversation that apparently started off the whole thing: Janet's discussion with Wanda about superheroes having children, which ends with the phrase "and you thought you could have two?" Wanda's twins may had been retconned to be nothing more than soulless constructs (and YMMV on that), but that doesn't change the fact that Wanda carried them to term, gave birth to them, and entirely believed they were her children. Is there ever a point that joking about one of your best friends essentially losing her children fails to be too freaking soon?
House of M came about because Quicksilver was afraid the Avengers and X-Men would kill Wanda because her powers were out of control; it was even suggested that this might be necessary. This was around the time Astonishing X-Men was running a story arc about a way to remove mutant powers, seemingly safely and permanently. Poor Communication Kills.
In Wolverine #43, Wolverine was Stripped to the Bone from a blast by Nitro (yes, that Nitro). It took less than five pages for Wolverine to fullyregenerate. If Wolverine could survive that, then he can survive lethal threats like being shot, stabbed, drowned, nuked, etc.; this kills some of the suspense. To add salt to the wound, after being cornered, Nitro decided to take Wolverine hostage by putting a knife up his throat after HAVING WITNESSED WOLVERINE FULLY REGENERATE FROM BEING STRIPPED TO THE BONES BY A NUKE!
An additional Wallbanger comes when Wolverine starts beating up Nitro, while he explains in his narration that he has noticed how Nitro's explosions don't harm himself. He then concludes that Nitro has a safety area around him, in which the blast doesn't effect anything. So Wolverine can beat him up because any blast wouldn't effect him from that range anymore. However, back at the beginning of Civil War, Namorita stands all of 10 centimeters away from Nitro, whom she holds against a bus. We clearly see her getting blasted to bits when Nitro causes the Stamford incident.
To put that in perspective: the creators of the X-Men Origins: Wolverine game considered having a scene where Wolverine was skeletonized by a nuclear meltdown and could briefly be controlled as a walking skeleton. They dropped it because it was too over-the-top.
According to the 2008 Logan miniseries, on August 6, 1945, Wolverine was in Hiroshima when the nuclear bomb dropped on it. He was in the blast radius. This bomb killed 140,000 civilians, but Wolverine survived - and no one else in the blast radius did. Mark that in your history books.
In the early 1990s, Wolverine nearly died in the "Fatal Attractions" storyline when Magneto ripped the adamantium out of his body. That's far less an injury than what Wolverine would effortlessly live through later.
He has since been nerfed down. Shortly after the aforementioned battle against Nitro, Marvel pulled an Author's Saving Throw with a convoluted Wolverine arc, which explained that a supernatural entity (some kind of Angel of Death guardian) used to magically bring him back to life every time (after the blast from Nitro in "Civil War", after the "Fall of Avalon", during "Enemy of the State" and many other times), but only if Wolverine managed to defeat him in battle. After a conversation with this guardian, Wolverine at last told "death" that he didn't want its help anymore, even if that meant (as the guardian warned him) that his healing factor would return to what it used to be (that is, not at a "regenerating from a single cell" level).
Kyle and Yost busted out with their own Wall Banger at the start of their run on the series. Following the vast majority of mutants getting depowered (for the heinous editorial crime of having too large a population numbering about half the number of colorblind people in the world), the X-Men are handed a big ol' Idiot Ball and proceed to boot all the depowered students out of the school without protection so they can be blown up by rockets, and then leave the school undefended so a few more students can be killed. What was the plot reason for this? The writers didn't know what to do with the characters. You know, the characters they alreadyPut on a Bus. Expect a few Back From The Deads in ten years.
Then this follows up with Cyclops shutting the whole place down and sending all the kids home, when in reality they were just moving the team to San Francisco and would get the kids later. So why not just bring the kids with them in the first place?! Mutants are almost all gone, you'd think Cyclops and all X-Men would make sure to try to keep the few remaining young mutants left in the world as safe as possible! This leads into Trance going back to the parents who hate her and getting kidnapped by a duo of villains and needing to be rescued by Wolverine. Even worse, it leads into the first story arc of the horrid Young X-Men, where Donald Pierce, disguised as Cyclops, recruits four of these young ex-students (and some guy named Ink) and tricks them into taking down some of the New Mutants. Let's ignore the fact that two of these kids could have probably recognized a cyborg in the room, cloaking device or not, and focus on one of these kids, namely Nicholas Gleason, better known as Wolf Cub. Despite seldom getting any time in the comics, for those who paid attention, he was one of the youngest mutants remaining on the entire planet, and was a rather naive and impressionable kid, with examples being his believing Rockslide's ludicrous stories, and later on trying to act like Wolverine, right down to the speech patterns, and as the series chugged along, we saw he was really not the tough guy he was trying to be and was still just a sensible young teen. So who ends up dead in Young X-Men? Yup, Wolf Cub. One of the kids Cyclops sent back home. Except that Wolf Cub was an orphan (with hints that his parents were murdered), and he first came into Xavier's because Chamber and freaking Cyclops himself were the ones who rescued him from some mutant haters who were trying to kill him! Way to go, Cyclops, kick out a kid no older than 14 years old, one of the youngest of the very few mutants remaining on the planet, whom you know is an orphan and has no place to go, let him fend for himself in a world that mostly hates his kind, don't keep tabs on him or most of the other kids, all cause you want to play sullen hero that returns with big fanfare in a new city! The kids will be just fine in the meantime, but oops, sorry, Nicholas is dead now.
Following the Messiah Complex event, Kyle & Yost's New X-Men got cancelled, and a new series titled Young X-Men (written by Marc Guggenheim) came out with several of the fan favorites in the lineup. The first arc features Magma, one of the New Mutants, killing New X-Men Dust by turning her to glass and shattering her. She gets reassembled and turned back later; but this leads into further Wall Banger territory. Not only does no one mention that this was all Magma's fault, but she also never apologizes for it. Oh, and Dust never fully recovers from the process and drops dead a few issues later. Dust gets revived again, but apparently the process will turn her evil and lead her to murder every single X-Men in the future. Yeah, turning a devoted Muslim evil is going to work out great!
It gets even worse in the New Mutants series. Illyana Rasputin, aka Magik, had previously stolen a part of New X-Men Pixie's soul during a New X-Men arc where Belasco had kidnapped the New X-Men and trapped them in Limbo. During the X-Infernus event, Pixie loses another piece of her soul to Belasco's daughter; everyone ignores the traumatized girl who just had part of her soul ripped out and only focuses on Magik. Later, Magik shows up on Earth, having escaped from Limbo, and the rest of the New Mutants welcome her back with open arms. When Pixie's teammates are understandably upset at this, the New Mutants claim, "She deserves to be here more than you do." Yeah, and Magik is laughing about it right in front of them, all the while Sunspot and Cannonball are threatening to beat the kids up if they are in any way hostile towards Magik. Once again, the New X-Men are treated like whiny children for daring to be upset at the girl who stole part of their friend's soul being welcomed back with open arms. Face meet palm.
Think it couldn't possibly get worse when it comes to the X-Kids and Magik? Think again. After the Purifiers mess up her teleportation ability, Magik — or rather, a demonic copy of her that Warlock has already warned the leaders isn't the real Magik — is pulled back into Limbo. After Colossus goes completely berserk over this, Cyclops agrees that they need all the teleporters they can get and says they'll get her back. How do they plan to do this? By forcing Pixie, who has a legitimate beef with Magik, to be the transport for a team to get her. Unfortunately, she is their sole remaining teleporter: Ariel and Nightcrawler are both dead, the X-Men booted out Cloak because he was a science-based mutate, and Vanisher has, um, vanished. And to top it off, Sam chews out Anole and Trance for siding with Pixie when she initially refused to go. Hey, grownups? When the kids you're supposed to be protecting and teaching have come to the conclusion that you'd let them die in a ditch to save a fake, evil copy of one of your own, and they might well be correct — you're doing the 'protecting mutantkind' thing wrong!
Considering Kyle and Yost's involvement in Wolverine and the X-Men, the way he's depicted in X-Force under their wing, and the episode of X-Men: Evolution that introduced X-23 involving Scott getting The Worf Effect, it's fair to assume they just dislike the character, save for the subplot in another episode of Evolution that they wrote, they've yet to write him competent, likable, or even fairly.
Daredevil #502: Two protest leaders (of the same group that Bullseye blew up in Daredevil: The List #1) are acquitted of any wrong doing in the explosion. The presiding judge - portrayed as either corrupted by or emboldened by Norman Osborn - threw out the verdict and sent the men to prison.
Let's repeat that: The judge threw out a "Not Guilty" verdict in a criminal trial.
For those not familiar with the American justice system, this is patently illegal. Jeopardy (No, not that one) is attached the moment "Not Guilty" is read into the record. Throwing that out represents "Double Jeopardy" - being tried for the same crime twice - a clear and flagrant violation of the Fifth Amendment. It also violates the Seventh: the right to convict defendants in criminal trials is vested solely in juries (unless the defendant chooses to waive this right) — judicial review can flip a 'guilty' verdict to 'not guilty' if there is suitable legal cause, but the reverse is absolutely forbidden. Any judge who even attempted something this stupid would be staring Impeachment in the face by next day's court. As Scans Daily poster toby wan kenobi put it:
"I like how one guy becoming a vaguely-powerful government figure has resulted in IMMEDIATE TOTAL WIDESPREAD CORRUPTION."
J. Michael Straczynski's run on Spider-Man had a couple of notorious Wall Bangers in its first story arc with Villain Sue Morlun, not the least of which was Spidey's assertion that Morlun was the first villain who really "ticked him off". Now remember, the Green Goblin (one of Spidey's oldest enemies) has murdered his first true love, kidnapped his infant daughter, ruined the lives of some of his closest friends, threatened his family, and made him doubt his existence by manipulating him into thinking he was a clone — in short, he's made Peter Parker's life a living hell. But Morlun made Spider-Man angrier than the Green Goblin ever did?
Mighty Avengers #34 is headache-inducing. Between Pym allowing Pietro to torture Loki for information on Wanda, whom he'd been impersonating for months; Thor showing up to rescue Loki; the ensuing fight having Thor go full on arrogant-asshole-god mode by proclaiming that no one was allowed to judge Loki but other Asgardians (you know, the idiots he's been manipulating for centuries); Pym, out of nowhere, inviting Loki to join the team; and every member of the team walking out in response. Yes, the writer had to break up the team somehow, since the series is ending soon and some of the characters were required in other plotlines; but this issue was solicited three months before its release. Wasn't there time to make a breakup that made sense?
It goes From Bad to Worse. There's the Ten Billion Bride Hive Mind. Janet's body was revealed as having become the Big Bang to start a new dimension, and Dimension!Jan is controllable because her soul's not in it — and Ultron and Jocasta both control it. Jocasta agrees to marry Ultron, and Pym is drafted as the unwilling techno-priest. Ultron goes to live in Dimension!Jan, and Jocasta uses her regained bodyhopping ability to go back and forth between that world and the central one. The entire series finale was an exercise in wallbanging What the hell?. Thankfully, from the looks of it, Christos Gage is currently ignoring all of the above in Avengers Academy.
Unfortunately, no, he didn't. While issue seven had the perfectly legitimate explanation that Pym was waiting to bring Janet back until he was sure he could bring her back whole, because she'd had a longstanding fear of ending up like her mother, who'd essentially become a vegetable after a brain injury, issue eleven completely blew that out of the water with the revelation that the dimensional entity isn't even really Jan,, it's actually Korvac's wife, Carina, who'd disintegrated herself to get away from him and her molecules got mixed in with Jan's, as the dominant form and personality. In other words, even if Jan could technologically be brought back, without some reality warping, she wouldn't even have her original body to come back to, as it no longer exists because that body is now solely Carina's. My God, cut the woman a break already. Aside from the fact of how shitty her death was to begin with, I think more than enough posthumous indignities have been piled on by now.
All of this crap has now been retconned out. Ultron and Jocasta went to live on an unidentified alien planet, not the Van Dyne dimension, and are both back on Earth now. Janet was never dead, but she shrunk down to the Microverse when Thor was about to banish (read: kill) her, which burned out the Skrull bomb she'd been turned into. She was rescued by the Avengers and is ready for a new round of abuse.
A minor yet proeminent Wall Banger related to the above: How did they menaged to capture Loki? I mean, common Loki have alread escaped from much worse than that, like being trapped in a tree, in a isolated dimension, and even being turned into stone by Seth! And no, i don't agree with the "because he was trapped through technology, which he has very little experience with" argument. Remenber that Loki as escaped from energy drainnig machine from Celestials (who themselves are way more than the whole Skyfather council) in possesion of friggin Apocalypse for cry out loud!
In Exiles, the villain Proteus ends his Body Surf by taking over Morph. Fine. They solve this problem by brainwashing Proteus to think he's Morph. Disturbing but not unreasonable. Then they find out that, if Proteus/Morph ever learns the truth, he'll slaughter them all and then escape into the multiverse to kill every living thing everywhere. Their response? Go to the beach and hope it doesn't happen.
Deadly Genesis. So the third Summers brother mentioned by Mr. Sinister is finally revealed. He wants to kill everyone because Xavier sent him and some friends on a suicide mission to Krakoa to rescue the original X-Men. The original story said firmly that Xavier wouldn't send rookies to save his team when he could call his friends in the Avengers or Fantastic Four or something. This massive retcon has him sending not one, but TWO, teams of completely inexperienced mutants to rescue his students; and the second rescue team goes AFTER the first team was butchered. When Cyclops and Havok are upset that their brother was killed, Xavier erases everyone's memory of the slaughtered rescue team and creates a new version of the story in their heads. There are many reasons Xavier's behavior makes no sense. There is also no way in this version of the story for Mr. Sinister to know about the existence of the third Summers brother.
In a Punisher/Eminem crossover comic we have Punisher vs. Eminem. In this corner, we have The Punisher: Marine Corps combat veteran with hundreds of confirmed kills; spec-ops trained; highly trained in numerous fighting styles and weapons; demolitions and tactical expert; in near-Olympic physical condition. Personally responsible for thousands, if not tens of thousands, of murders, more than any other non-powered Marvel character. Kills criminals on a daily basis. Is along with Nick Fury one of the only two non-powered soldiers in the MU to get into a fistfight with Captain America and lose only on points, instead of by KO. And in this corner over here, we have Eminem. He's a completely normal guy who doesn't even qualify as a Bad Ass Normal, and spends most of his time in a studio. Oh, and he hangs out with Fifty Cent. OK, then, this is going to be over quickly; someone get Em's next of kin on the phone and...what the hell? Eminem just pistol whipped the Punisher and is shooting him in the chest?! Eminem shouldn't be able to get the drop on a Marine and tactical expert with spec-ops training!
For many fans, The Sentry: Fallen Sun has a story worse than even the Incredibly Lame Pun in the beginning. The story is that The Sentry, having been killed by Thor after giving in to his Superpowered Evil Side and threatening the universe and possibly even killing his wife, is remembered positively at his funeral. Rogue of the X-Men runs off distraught since, apparently, the Sentry was the only one she could touch. It is revealed that she slept with him; this is discussed in a single panel between Johnny Storm (The Human Torch) and Cyclops. (For a full analysis of why this sucks, see here. The Thing admits that he hated the Sentry because he was a better man than he was for not killing the Wrecker, before he'd killed a group of schoolkids on a bus For the Evulz, which is out of character for the Thing, the Sentry ,and the Wrecker. (Remember the reason for this funeral.) Tony Stark talks about how he was nothing but a drunk before the Sentry came along. Daredevil talks about how he was a good counselor (LOLWUT?). Dr. Strange basically says that, for someone with the power of a million exploding suns, he taught him a lot about darkness. (No kidding.) They pay their last respects. Stark gives them beer (despite that being a drunk bit), and they disperse. All these events were conveniently Retconned in and never shown. But the readers are supposed to empathize with the guy who nearly destroyed the world...
Reed Richards then finds the last letter from his BFF the Sentry with his Robot Buddy C.L.O.C., which implies that he may return. (This is why Marvel Comics should never do funeral storylines.) Honestly, the whole thing was nothing more to show how fabulous the Sentry was. We're told that the pivotal moments of the lives of the major Marvel heroes...is because of the Sentry, which he couldn't do without Retcons. All we saw of him in life was his being agoraphobic and schizophrenic and being Achilles in His Tent when the shit hit the fan. At least Paul Jenkins clearly showed us what he was intended to be: a Gary Stu, whose claim to greatness was Remember the New Guy with a failed attempt of Too Good for This Sinful Earth...which makes less sense when you consider that he ripped Spider-Man villain Carnage in half and did the same to Ares after he went crazy. Even in death, some bullshit about the greatness that is the Sentry comes to light.
In J. Michael Straczynski's otherwise good The Mighty Thor, when talking to his Asgardian guests, Doom said he "had no idea what a winkle was until he looked in up on Wikipedia". He was sweet-talking them, but come on! The guy is so arrogant that his whole grudge with Reed Richards stemmed from his inability to accept that he was wrong. Either he would pretend to know, or he would pretend that he didn't care.
Doctor Doom has had a lot of Out of Character lines in later years, to the point he was once the trope image for Out-of-Character Moment. Like the infamous 9/11 comic, which has him crying in response to a terrorist attack. Yeah, right. Given how many times he's tried to destroy parts of New York, folks found that this made no sense whatsoever. Or as someone put it, if Doom had actually been offended by bin Laden's actions then you'd have known it from the part where he dumped bin Laden's smoking corpse on the front steps of the UN next week. The fact that he doesn't actually go after the terrorists — and remember, Doom is a head of state, and commands an arsenal (if not troops) equal to any First World superpower — implies that he just didn't care, making the tears even more unjustified.
In the 1990s, Marvel decided to put Rogue in a romantic subplot with fellow French-speaking Southerner Gambit, which resulted in a major Character Derailment for Rogue to suit the "man of mystery" status of the Cajun. Firstly, he hinted that he might be immune to her absorption power, secondly when he was monologizing away from the others he had a deep, dark secret in his past (which later turned out that he had worked for Mr. Sinister and had been involved, albeit in a non-killing capacity, in the Mutant Massacre). Rogue got handed the Idiot Ball, and so even though Gambit continually teased her about it, she always was too scared to put the immunity hypothesis to the test by simply touching him. Which was a complete break from how she had used her power before.note Needless to say, while in the past there had been many situations when during a fight Rogue would absorb an (unconscious) teammate's power and memories, no such situations ever arose with Gambit. Convenient. Before Claremont left, she had often absorbed other people's powers and memories, sometimes even playfully, and experience showed that it usually did not cause great problems to her or the "donors". So in order to motivate her out-of-character hesitancy or phobia Marvel decided to rewrite her origin by now declaring that Cody Robbins, the first person on whom she had (accidentally) used her power, never woke from his absorption-induced coma. Well, if that is the case and the permanent absorption of Ms. Marvel's memories that had plagued Rogue for so long, then it is understandable that she is hesitant to try touching Remy, right? Maybe, but now her entire behaviour before she met him makes sense no more. Had this happened, then Rogue must logically have concluded from the first time it was used that her absorption power always put the people she touched into a permanent coma, and thus she would not have kissed another boy shortly afterwards or her surrogate mother Mystique (both of these things happened in Classic X-Men back-up stories set in her pre-Brotherhood years).
In Brand New Day J Jonah Jameson becomes an eager supporter of Norman Osborn hailing him as a real American hero. Despite the fact that several years earlier Osborn bought his newspaper from under him via threatening to kill his family.
After almost a decade of fan demand, the original Hobgoblin returned in Amazing Spider-Man #648. Chilling, cunning, and sane, Hobgoblin was one of the most unique, interesting, and underutilized of the Goblins, and is in the Magnificent Bastard comics section. During his career, he had three times fooled Spider-Man with red herrings. Finally, in a case of Know When to Fold 'Em, he set up a patsy, the third red herring, to take the fall and die for him while he retired. It was ten years before he reappeared. Finally brought to justice, he spends at most a month comic-book-time in prison before manipulating Norman Osborn into breaking him out. He then retires to the Caribbean to live off of his illicit gains. Surely, his return is going to epic. Wrong. After a decade of anticipation, the Hobgoblin is killed by a Z-list ex-superhero gone crazy named Phil Urich and replaced by said ex-superhero. This was after making the Hobgoblin the Kingpin's, one of Hobgoblin's old enemies, b—-h. They even have a line almost paraphrasing that. So first, they derail the Hobgoblin's characterization. Then they kill him off at the hands of a character nowhere near as skilled or powerful in a disrespectful manner without him putting up anything resembling a fight (I mean, if you're going to kill an awesome villain, it should be in awesome fashion) for nothing more than a cheap shock and what could possibly be a thinly-veiled Take That to fans demanding his return. They replace him with his killer, who when introduced had been written purposely as an incompetent hero who found himself way over his head, thus introducing yet another insane Goblin (how creative), as well as limiting future storylines with the original Hobgoblin. Why was killing Roderick Kingsley, the original Hobgoblin, necessary to make Urich the new Hobgoblin?! They could have easily made a Hobgoblin without resorting to offing the old one! Many fans have outright refused to believe that the Hobgoblin that was killed was Kingsley, preferring to assume that it was another stooge set up to take the fall, but seeing how the trend in his appearances, it will probably be yet another (third) decade before he returns.
Even if he is Z-list, there are people who remember reading and enjoying the "Green Goblin" series that first introduced Phil Urich, and many others who became familiar with an older version of the character from reading Spider-Girl. In the latter, Phil is a good friend and mentor to May Parker, and it's difficult not to like the guy. So to turn him into an insane killer is even more of a Wall Banger for fans of Phil due to the enormous Character Derailment.
While that may have been revealed as a Bait and Switch and the original Hobgoblin is back, they've done it againEnsemble Darkhorse Toxin: Fans have been wanting to see this guy back for a very long time...only for the symbiote to return, bond with Eddie Brock to turn him into a new Toxin, who's now returned Brock to his former psychopathic villain stage. While Brock was becoming a Knight Templar, it was to set up this event. Still, this is two buckets of Character Derailment: Eddie, right before this, was being praised for sacrificing his Anti-Venom abilities and was at hi most heroic point in his life, willing to do anything to help anyone. Now he's a psycho villain again. Toxin meanwhile, was notable, and popular, for being a symbiote baby, he has no malicious purpose at all. He's completely innocent, and was terrified of being separated from his host Patrick Mulligan because he wasn't confident to bond to anyone else (he was bonded to Pat almost as soon as he was born). Now, he's a generic mind altering symbiote with no mention as to what happened to Patrick. The plot this extended from is't particularly bad, but thisis just, urk.
We actually now know what happened to Patrick Mulligan. He was beaten to death by Blackheart. And it should be specified that this was not an epic or noble death that he suffered. Sure Pat as Toxin is outclassed by Blackheart a bit but Toxin is basically Spider-Man, Venom, and Carnage all rolled into one package with their weaknesses toned down significantly. Thats mid level Thor villain threat right there and he should be an absolute bitch to put down even for most of the heavy hitters. But nope he was literally "beaten to death in a gutter" (Direct quote from the Marvel Database). Seriously Marvel what the hell?
Avengers Prime: Captain America, who was dating Sharon Carter at the time, who happens to be his primary love interest and has been on-and-off for over forty years, cheats on her by kissing an elf girl in one of the nine realms. He doesn't regret it right after, he doesn't feel guilty. One might get the feeling that Brian Michael Bendis, the series writers, simply didn't do the research. Until the end of the series, when he kisses her again, in view of both Iron Man and Thor. Who then have a chuckle and remark, "Isn't he dating someone on Earth?" So yes, Bendis DOES know the character is dating someone, and he doesn't give a shit, portraying the Marvel Universe's pinnacle of heroism, morality and character as cheater, and his two closest friends who are among the finest heroes of MU as a pair of douche-bros.
The over-arching plot in Avengers Vs X-Men is that the Phoenix Force is returning to Earth, keying in on Hope Summers. The Avengers and a few of the X-Men want to try and hide Hope from the Phoenix, fearing that if the Phoenix gained a human host, it would be Dark Phoenix all over again. Among the current X-Men is Rachel Summers... the last human host of the Phoenix Force, who wielded the power for years as a hero and never once went as out of control as The Avengers have talked about. You'd think someone, like say Wolverine, who is an Avenger and knew both Rachel and Jean Gray, would mention this. Nope. You'd think the X-Men - many of whom, like Logan, were teammates with both Phoenixes - would mention this or the fact that Jean didn't really go crazy until her mind was mucked with by Mastermind? Again, nope. Rachel herself? Again. No. (Something noted by the webcomic ComicCritics) Basically the laziest, dumbest Excuse Plot ever devised to set up a Crisis Crossover EVER. (and with competition like Civil War and Dark Reign, that's saying something.)
But okay, let's just say the Avengers are still nervous, because the Phoenix is killing billions on its way to Earth and having history with only two hosts isn't enough to alleviate concern. Fair enough right? So the Avengers want to take Hope off-world, so in the event that if she becomes the host and does go crazy, she won't spit-roast earth. Again, fair enough. But the X-Men don't want that, because they've practically canonized her as their messiah and want to use her to rekindle mutantkind and as a big stick againt anti-mutant humans. So rather than just having Hope meet the Phoenix in deep-space, they want her to stay right on Earth and gamble with the lives of seven billion people so they can have more mutants.
And even better, neither side has come together to work for a solution. The Avengers just demand for Hope to be handed over, and the X-Men will hold onto her at all costs. Meanwhile, the Phoenix is immolating billions more people as it gets closer every passing day. Way to protect humanity and mutants, everybody. *slowclap*
This only continues when the mandatory Plot Twist hits, with five X-Men splitting the Phoenix instead of it going to Hope. The Phoenix Five immediately forget that they wanted to restore depowered mutants, and instead decide to make the world a better place. The world that fears and hates mutants is quite happy with this.
Oh, but the five who got possessed? Three have been known threats to humanity in general more than once (Emma Frost, Illyana Rasputin, Namor), one just finished a very short tenure as the host of Cyttorak (Piotr Rasputin), and the last is Scott fucking Summers, who has been written as nothing short of a military cultist since the X-Men moved to San Francisco. But when the Avengers call bullshit on this, the X-Men treat them like anti-mutant stormtroopers who are just sulking about not getting to be the heroes anymore until, surprise!, Rogue finds out the hard way that the Phoenix power is going to the new hosts' heads, and Illyana is imprisoning captured Avengers in hellholes in Limbo.
To make matters worse, the treatment of Scott Summers is getting worse by the issue. Yes, Scott has been very Templar-like (itself something which has caused a very vocal backlash from the internets), but in his case it's understandable: Almost every mutant was either depowered or dead, Scott was in the beginning of a Trauma Conga Line, and the very worst of the X-Men's enemies were gunning for whatever was left. So, his behaviour was at he very least understandable (he's even admitted many times that he doesn't like doing what he's doing, but he has to for the sake of what's left). In short, it was a Bad Future storyline set in the present. During AVX, however, Scott is turned into one of the Phoenix Five, he still tries to use the insane levels of power for good, but over the course of the story he ends up first depowering and nearly killing Emma Frost, and successfully killing Charles Xavier, his father figure, before becoming Dark Phoenix. That's right, they've given Cyclops, one of the most important and iconic members of the X-Men and one of the most well known Marvel Characters a complete and total Character Assassination. Now, its not the first time editorially mandated stories have destroyed characters, Civil War and OMD both nearly killed Tony Stark and Peter Parker, but unlike them, they didn't have prior Never Live It Down status (Scott has, previously, had a failed marriage which he was blamed entirely for, and prior to his second wife/first love interest's death he had an 'affair' (as in, Emma Frost took advantage of some mental problems and had psychic sex, something that if real and without the psychic part, would be considered rape and she'd be facing jail time), both of which are still cited today as reasons to hate the character). Fans of the character will be unable to forgive Marvel for this, while the character's Hate Dom will never let him be redeemed for something that was completely out of his control.
Jeph Loeb is something of a repeated Wall Banger offender. Take the much-hyped resurrection of Sabretooth. The very start has teleporterCloak chained to the top mast of the Empire State Building by Sabretooth. Wolverine climbs up and frees him, only for them to both slip and fall towards the street (which requires them to fall 150 feet sideways), but Cloak saves them by teleporting away. You might wonder why Cloak didn't simply teleport away in the first place. As reviewer Paul O'Brien put it, "such subtleties are not for the likes of Jeph Loeb."
After the whole Civil War thing was over and done with, and the Secret Invasion was defeated, Tony was removed from power and thrown in the slammer. Okay. So who did they get to replace him? Norman Osborn. The same Norman Osborn that has been on and off for the last forty years being a crazy nutjob who goes out of his way to make Spider-Man's life a living hell. I'm not sure if Norman's career as Green Goblin is public knowledge, but it sure as hell should be known to SHIELD, the organization he was handed total control of. Luckily he has since been deposed.
Unless it was one of the things that went poof with One More Day (and who the hell even knows anymore), Osborn's status as Gobbie was public knowledge because of an incident where he strafed his own arraignment hearing with pumpkin bombs on live television before being stopped by Luke Cage.
An early issue of Bendis' Avengers Assemble has Natasha kiss Clint after they talk about how they're such close friends. Immediately after the kiss, Natasha snaps that he has a girlfriend (Jessica Drew) and storms out as Clint tries to say something. However, there are two massive problems with this. 1. Natasha was dating Bucky at the time. 2. Natasha kissed him first, knowing full well that he had a girlfriend. Not only was the kiss itself hugely out of left field (Clint and Natasha broke up years ago, Clint has been married since, and they've never shown any interest in each other for a long time), but it makes Natasha look like a massive hypocrite.
Marville has quite a few of these, considering how this was a comic made by Bill Jemas in a desperate attempt to win a bet against Peter Davis. Let's count them, kids:
Talking, Hebrew dinosaurs... played straight. And they seem suprised that humans kill other humans as the comic claims that humanity are the only species who kill their own kind. Trust us when we say this: there is a loooooooooooooooooooooong list of animals that kill their own kind! In fact, you could argue that humans are the only species who can feel regret and shame for doing so.
Our protagonists feel horrified that molecules have to die in order for the circle of life to continue... you read that part right, ladies and gentle men. Molecules!
Wolverine was apparently evolved from an otter, making him amongst the first humans. And he is apparently the Messiah who made world peace, even though he only declared this to a handfull of villagers without the knowledge of the rest of the world. And keep in mind that all of this is going on in what would become North America, where humans wouldn't settle for a very long time.
The reason that God wanted to show our less than bright protagonists the past was in order for them to stop World War III. Out of all the people in the world, he picked some of the least competent possible! If these guys are our saviours, kiss your asses good bye and await the nuke rain at a city near you!
The all-female X-Men team book has one in Jubilee's sheer inept parenting. Her motivation for even having Shogo (the child) is flimsy, but then she basically leaves the child with Teen Iceman and Teen Beast so that she can nap. They are teenagers from the '80s, what parenting ability do they have?! Hell, being near Iceman can't be good for a baby's health. Worst part? They never even asked for the baby! Sure, Jubilee is tired, but that doesn't mean she can just ditch the baby on anyone in her line of sight! Worst still, after the X-Men come back from forcing Teen Cyclops and Jeen to go back to their time, condemning Jeen to death, and being visibly exhausted from this, she implies she's gonna force one of them to babysit.