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"'When I first read this, the sound of hatred that emitted from my throat was so potent that it summoned a demon that killed my roommate. To avoid a repeat occurrence I will not attempt to recapture that moment."
Y: Ruler of Time, That Guy with the Glasses reviewer, about a certain chapter of Naruto

Sometimes, not even reading it right to left can save a story from the wrath of Fridge Logic.

Note: These shows have caused so much cranial injury, they now have their own pages.


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    Blue Gender 
  • Seno Miyagi, lead scientist of Second Earth buys into Tony's explanation of the "Grand Will of the Earth", without any empirical evidence. Technically, Tony is right, but a man of science should at least try a few hypotheses.
  • You know those humans who live on Second Earth and plan to live there for good (minus some on-ground farming, but only until they get some Space farms or something)? Gaia didn't like that, and so she made them go crazy (for no reason) and murder each other. We gotta kill that bitch...
    • Plus, it's made clear that the people running Second Earth know what the Blues are and are trying to fix it and see making Second Earth self-sufficient as a solution. The Blues are actively trying to stop this. That bitch doesn't want cooperation; she wants things done her way.
  • It is mentioned earlier in the series that the humans are still able to deploy nuclear weapons against the Blue, but they have refrained from doing so to preserve the biosphere. This is the same biosphere that is actively trying to kill them. Can you say "Exterminatus," boys and girls?
    • From a military perspective, not using WMDs is a wallbanger. Nukes don't give off as much fallout as fiction would indicate, and nature is less harmed by them than man is once you get past ground zero. And the humans control the orbitals, so clean kinetic strikes using near earth objects are totally doable.
  • They have equipment that can detect Blue life signs some how. They have literal Bluedar. If they weren't complete idiots, then the tactical advantage this gives them should make the war a cake walk. They are losing because of Forgot About His Powers.
  • Marlene says, "All conventional weapons were found to be useless against the Blue." But we the viewers have only her word for it. We do not get to see any of the failures. We do not even get to see how the Blue could possibly defeat some of those conventional weapons. The Blue are vulnerable to small mecha guns; why should large guns, the sort carried by tanks or aircraft and used against tanks and aircraft, be any different? And why can't, say, F-16s or B-2 bombers or battleships do anything to them? The Blue don't fly that well when they fly, and they have no truly long-ranged weapons. Seriously, there has been a Diabolus Ex Machina or some serious failures of strategy here...
    • In fact, while Blue Gender is supposed to take place in the future, we could spend hours listing all the ways modern technology would curb-stomp the Blues (and we did, until it was cleaned up). Pretty much all of The Worf Effect tropes can fit right into that socket.
  • The mecha that the humans use have an insane open cockpit design. The armament of the mechas is insufficient to do more than annoy the Blue unless they hit the weak point for massive damage. They use what looks to be about a 40-85mm cannon as a rifle, and it doesn't do jack; a modern main battle tank carries a 120mm cannon that would probably kill with one shot anything they meet in the series if it hadn't been magically neutralized. And tanks are as good as mecha for melee.
    • If you look closely at the Mech guns, then you'll see that the top of the barrel sheath extends farther than the bottom. This is the exact opposite of a real military rifle; this design will increase muzzle climb. Did the people who drew this ever see a real gun?
    • The two-man melee mech. The legs are controlled by one soldier, the arms by another. This mech has NO weapons. So, to summarize: Melee mech with no protection for the pilot, no weapons and the arms and legs are completely disconnected.
  • The Blue ability to "evolve" is, as far as we can tell, their growing armor over or hiding their cores. It's normal natural selection: the Blue that had exposed cores get killed fast; those that had less exposed cores didn't. They breed fast, and unfit individuals are quickly eliminated by humans. But "evolving" can't help you if there is no defense against the weapon you are being hit with. To spot a KE penetrator made of DU, your need DU or Tungsten armor, which means you need to find those metals and eat them to make them part of your armor. But to find enough of those metals, you have to mine, which would make the Blue into an industrial species based on organic rather then mechanical technological innovation. But Gaia hates industrial species in general... To defeat humanity as it exists in the real world, the Blue would have to become that which they are supposed to destroy. And the Blue don't even understand mining.
    • Even if they did, none of the Blue except the land whale weigh more than MB Ts, making them too light to support the armor they need. Since they are not just boxes on wheels, they have more surface area to armor; they have to carry so much weight that they would collapse. Walking combat vehicles are stupid for many reasons, and those same reasons apply to the Blue. No amount of adaption will change physics.
    • If they attacked from the air, the size of munitions used would make even the frontal armor of a MBT look like tin foil. If the Blue fought humans that used real world tactics and military equipment, then they would be slaughtered.
  • Perhaps the humans in Blue Gender are being targeted by natural selection against stupidity rather than Gaia's vengeance.

    Code Geass 
  • In episode 19 of the second season, Prince Schneizel goes to the Black Knights and tells them that Zero is a Britannian prince who is rotten to the core and may have used mind control on them. The Black Knights believe him sight unseen and instantly turn on Zero/Lelouch. That's right, the Knights choose to believe a bitter enemy over the commander who's fought alongside them for the past two years. They instantly attempt to kill Lelouch without even giving him a chance to explain himself! Almost every member of the Knights' leadership turns against him; by the time the conversation ends, no one dissents. This episode caused many Black Knights, most notably sub-commander Kaname Ohgi, to earn Scrappy points with the fanbase.
    • There's the theory that Ohgi did this so he could stay with Villetta.
    • Zero/Lelouch is a former Britannian prince, and Schneizel pretty much admits it. Thus, Lelouch probably has reasons for fighting Britannia. But the Knights choose to believe a current prince who was known to be shady and who just nuked Tokyo. DOES. NOT. COMPUTE.
    • Even if the series had given proper foreshadowing of the Black Knight's distrust, it wouldn't explain how Schneizel knew that the Black Knights would betray Zero. It would have made more sense for Schneizel to blast them to bits with his missiles.
    • What's worse is that the only thing - the only thing - that does make sense is Lelouch choosing to play along. After all, he knew that Schneizel had them cornered and if he tried to hard to convince them his brother was lying, they were all dead, so he lied to save them (especially Kallen). What doesn't make sense is that they turned to the proven Evil Prince over their long-time leader. While there are good reasons to not fully trust Zero (the abandonment for no apparent reason during the Black Rebellion, for one), siding with the man who nuked Tokyo is idiotic beyond words. At least Diethard, Tamaki and Kallen were reluctant to believe it at first, but Ohgi? EPIC - FAIL!!
      • Ohgi's fail goes beyond trusting Schneizel. He also trusted Villetta, the woman responsible for incapacitating him during the Black Rebellion, keeping Lelouch under close surveillance while they were imprisoned and thus being partly responsible for their year in jail and near-execution, and also going AWOL for her when she wanted to kill him, and he has the nerve to implicate him for all of this while defending the woman responsible. And somehow, the rest of the BKs agree Lelouch is at fault instead. For obvious reasons, the ending is even worse. Can you say Never My Fault and Ungrateful Bastard?
      • This whole situation is made much worse by the fact that none of Schneizel's claims can come anywhere close to being proven. He tells them of Geass, which actually exists, but none of the Black Knights had ever heard of this or any other of the supernatural elements in the show before this and therefore had no reason to believe it. Even when we know that Schneizel was telling part of the truth about Geass, the Black Knights come off as massively gullible and honestly stupid for not laughing in his face about how insane his story is. It comes off as awkward when Schneizel's only "proof" is that a bunch of bad stuff happened that Lelouch might have been involved in and claiming that he has mind control powers with nothing to back that up, but the Black Knights, except for Tamaki, who at least didn't want to believe it at first, almost instantly accept this as fact.
    • However, Super Robot Wars Z2: Saisei-hen averts this and lets the player keep Lelouch/Zero if they have enough Zero points.
  • The hypocrisy here centered around Ohgi is another Wall Banger. Even though Lelouch is accused of abandoning the Black Knights during the Black Rebellion and harboring secrets, Ohgi is just as guilty of these with his season 1 tryst and unrequited love for Villetta Nu, which compelled him to sneak away from his duties and allowed him to be nearly killed by her in Turn 15 when she wanted to sever her ties with Zero and the Black Knights. Most of all, despite his own objections to people being used as pawns, which he voices repeatedly, he uses Kallen, the one person who trusts Zero/Lelouch and knows him well enough to defend him, to bait him into the warehouse to be executed; Ohgi almost shoots her down as well, but is stopped when Lelouch tells Kallen that she was nothing more than a pawn, pushing her away to have her spared. Afterwards, Ohgi doesn't apologize. Not to mention that he asked for Japan in exchange for Zero, which is tantamount to if not downright worse than Zero going AWOL during the Black Rebellion, as it would have constituted a mutiny on the Black Knights' role as military protection force of the UFN. At least when Suzaku was about to inject Kallen with Refrain, he not only stopped himself, but also attempted to apologize. For all his issues during season 2, at least Suzaku had a sense of decency, even if it was still a vain attempt to distance himself from Zero.
    • Kallen was trying to get them to see reason when they asked her to move. They just accused her of being under the sway of Geass. Ohgi used her as bait because he thought that if she tried to defend her commander like any rational military officer would do in the presence of such a mutiny, then she must be under his control. Complete idiocy. As for giving back Japan, Schneizel never made good on that deal (after all, those idiots never delivered their end), as that flash-forward two episode later shows. Milly is still in Japan doing her job and only even starts thinking of Area 11 as Japan after Lelouch gives them the country for nothing in return.
      • The thing with Kallen is even more of a wallbanger once you remember that the Black Knights never TOLD her about Geass, Lelouch being Zero, or all the crimes he committed. They just send her to bring him to the hanger. When she tries to defend him, which she was bound to do since he just broke her out of prison hours before, they accuse her of being under the effect of Geass — without telling her what Geass is. Kallen may have known about all that stuff, but the Black Knights don't know that. Way to treat your ace pilot who was just broken out of imprisonment on the verge of execution. Naoto must be rolling in his grave right now.
    • The entire thing gets even more idiotic the longer you look at it. Setting aside all of their stupidity concerning Lelouch and Kallen, the Black Knights actually believed Schneizel would keep his word. He's the second most powerful figure in the entire Britannian empire, it's been mentioned several times that if Japan gains independence the entire empire will probably break up and Zero is quite clearly their best military leader (note how horribly they were crushed in the Black Rebellion when he disappeared). Once he had his hands on Lelouch, why would they think that he would hold his end of the bargain?
    • Schneizel doesn't give them Japan because he then sends Suzaku to kill the Emperor. Gino overhears and then tells his boss, Bismarck. Trying to do anything using his official power would result in him being hunted down and killed by an angry, Super Elite, Geass-Using soldier. This doesn't seem to clue any of the Black Knights in on his nature.
  • Kallen goes up against Xing-ke while low on energy. That's not the Wallbanger. It's unwise; but Kallen, as the Ace Pilot of the group, is supposed to take on the strongest opponents (Xing-ke had just effortlessly mopped the floor with Chiba). On the other hand, the entire Order of the Black Knights standing around and watching her fight Xing-ke one-on-one without helping her when they know she's low on energy and when most of their army (including Chiba and Asahina) is deployed and ready to act - that's headdesk inducing.
    • Part of the problem was that both units were flight capable. We see later that they probably have a hell of a time attaching those things on the hangar floor. It's done in advance. Simply put, there wasn't anyone there to help. But it does raise the question of what the hell Asahina was doing the whole time, even if he would have gotten his ass kicked. Chiba was hardly beaten soundly, either — she only lost a sword. Both of them were in a position to assist but didn't.
    • Lelouch's shiny new toy is at most a couple hours from being ready. Indestructible defense and a giant cannon is not useful? Especially considering how conflicted Lelouch is about it.
    • What makes this even more of a Wallbanger is it essentially amounted to nothing. Kallen stays captured for seven (Halfway through Turn 10 to Halfway through Turn 18) episodes, and the only real reason for this is an excuse for an end-of-season upgrade and to make Suzaku see how much of an ass he's being, either of which did not need to see Kallen captured for seven episodes to do. What should have been the main point, namely learning more about Lelouch, is utterly thrown away not one episode after she comes back when the Black Knights betray Lelouch. It's not even brought up beyond a passing mention just prior to said event, and Kallen's just as easily manipulated before as she was after.
    • The reason Kallen went up against Xing-ke with low energy was because there "wasn't time to replace her energy filler". Observe absolutely any scene in which a fresh energy filler is installed into a Knightmare, such as in episode 20 of the first season. It takes about, oh, 15 seconds? How the hell wasn't there time to do that?
  • Code Geass hit a wall during episode 22 of Season 1, where it turns out that Lelouch's fatal flaw was not his pride, his inability to put aside his personal issues for the greater good, nor even his growing Messiah Complex. No, it's his carelessness. Euphie's fairly competent if naive plan to restore autonomy to Japan with Lelouch's aid is undone because Lelouch accidentally Geasses her with an evil command while trying to warn her that he could Geass her with an evil command. Now we'll never know if Euphie would have, without that Geass, gone forward with her plan once she realized she was being used as a pawn.
    • The Brittanian soldiers restrained Lulu when he was trying to stop Euphie from starting the genocide. This makes The Mutiny even more of a wall banger. Get out a security camera of what happened that day; Lelouch was close enough to what happened that his being grabbed by the soldiers would have been caught on tape—and surely it wasn't taped over, not with what happened right afterward. Granted, Lelouch is smart and could have been passed off as acting, but that would have warranted an investigation just to determine any damage he's responsible for, which would no doubt have led to somebody stumbling upon concrete proof of his decent, if not fully innocent, character. Especially when his way of pushing away Kallen makes it seem like geassing the Black Knights on foot into in-fighting and creating a third massacre makes too much sense for the sociopath he was already believed to be.
  • What happened to the battleship Great Britannia? A bunch of Knightmares suddenly appear but never had a battleship to transport them? And if it was there... then why does Lelouch take the Avalon, a flying yacht in every way inferior as his flagship in a battle with better-equipped battleships on BOTH sides, including other "Great Britannia"-class battleships?
  • Question: What happens to every city, town and village within a hundred miles of Mount Fuji after Lelouch sets it off? There are no government disaster management teams to help the civilians evacuate — they are too busy fighting. A big deal was made about what happened in Narita in season 1. This would be like Narita times a hundred, but no one mentions it.
    • The same thing happens with Tokyo. The center of Tokyo is destroyed, pretty much leaving only the poor people and crippling Japan's economy. This is ignored; the implication is that they just rebuilt and the economy magically got better. Considering the destruction that the war has caused, the world economy should probably be crippled.
  • To this tropette, Nina's Freak Out and Heel-Face Turn qualify as Character Derailment of the worst kind. One moment she wanted nothing more than to drop FLEIJA on Tokyo to kill Zero and avenge her beloved Euphemia... and one second later she gets all My God, What Have I Done?? As if she couldn't even suspect that the weapon she built herself was capable of such destruction! You know, Nina, for a supposed Teen Genius, you are pretty damn retarded. I know that the destruction of Tokyo was mainly Schneizel's fault, but... really, it looked like the producers were saying: "Yes, we know Nina is an absolute bitch with no redeeming qualities at all, but can you viewers just pretend she's actually a tragic character?". Well, for what concerns this tropette, it utterly failed. She will never stop hating Nina or considering her a Karma Houdini.
    • Made worse because she tested the weapon in a non-inhabited area before it was ever used in battle and was happy with the result. She should not have been surprised by how powerful the one in Tokyo was.
      • One could almost be impressed with how the writers managed to make Nina even more hated, if it wasn't for the fact they were clearly trying for the opposite effect. These are the same people who managed to turn Jeremiah into such a badass?
    • At the very least, they tried something in order to redeem her. Seriously, so many other characters got off absolutely scot free for their actions it's not even funny.
  • In R2, Lelouch goes Heroic BSOD after he learns Nunally has been made viceroy of Area 11. He's unable to think of a military plan that would free Area 11 without harming Nunally. He gets over his Heroic BSOD and perform the "one million miracle" and exiles the Black Knights to the Chinese Federation. Here, he rebuilds his power base, gathers weapons, and forges alliances; this leads to the birth of U.F.N., which is capable of challenging Britannia. The U.F.N.'s first resolution is to free Area 11 from occupation, which means Lelouch has to confront Nunally IN AN ARMED MILITARY INTERVENTION!!! Lelouch goes mad because he can't figure out a plan to free Area 11 without harming his sister. Why didn't he try to formulate one between Turn 07 and Turn 16?! He knew it would have come to that eventually!
    • Short Answer: He got over it. He had a problem with it at first, then he sucked it up.
    • Also, his main obstacle to a plan was not so much armed conflict against Nunnally so much as it was armed resistance from within the Area against Nunnally. He was terrified of her getting caught up in a guerrilla war. Worse, he didn't want her to restart the SAZ, which would either destroy the Black Knights or result in another massacre - not something he wanted for Nunnally. Furthermore, if she failed as Viceroy, she would have been eaten alive by Britannia - Lelouch couldn't defeat her without making sure he could get her to safety - hence his "capture Nunnally" orders during the Second Battle of Tokyo.
  • Schneizel putting his king in check, and then declaring a victory by announcing "checkmate." The shallow justification of chess being nothing more than a metaphor doesn't help. Sure, it's not his victory he's announcing, but someone should have called him on it.
  • The scene where Lelouch defeats his Instrumentality-happy parents is dripping with hypocrisy, not only on his part, but also on the part of the writers. Lelouch objects to their plan because, among other things, it would remove free will from humanity. So, to stop them he uses his Geass on the collective consciousness of humankind — you know, the one that forces you to obey his command... Then, when Marianne claims that they did what they had to do because they cared about their children, Lelouch counters with them not understanding "the meaning in Nunally's smile". Most of what Lelouch does in the story has been to create a better world for Nunally, which as she later points out, SHE NEVER ASKED HIM TO DO IN THE FIRST PLACE! He just decided what would be best for her on his own, just his own parents did for the human race. Clearly, Lelouch's domineering love is better than theirs. What makes it painful is that you get the feeling that the writers wanted to make all these points about life and love and hope, but forgot what had happened already and who they were having say what!
    • Note: the wallbanger is not "Lelouch stops Instrumentality" (we're all for that), it's "Lelouch stops Instrumentality in a manner so agonizingly hypocritical that the ends DO NOT justify the means despite it being Instrumentality."
      • The argument for this being a Wall Banger seems to be that Lelouch used mind-control to save free will, but that's a case of end justifying the means. Lelouch controlled free will for a moment so that it wouldn't be lost forever. That the guy whose superpower is controlling minds chooses to save free will is ironic, but it could be on purpose. Besides, Lelouch was never a saint.
      • It also seems to imply that by having their actions be similar to his, it's a possibly intentional case of Not So Different that not so much the characters, but the viewers are meant to cue in on. This is a theme in the latter part of the series. A theme of whose morality, if anyone's, is better than that of others.
  • C.C. clearly knew from the start that Lelouch's Geass would become so powerful it would require a special contact lens for him to maintain control of it. Why in the fuck would she withhold that kind of information from him? As a result, Princess Euphemia's blood is as much on her hands as it is Lelouch's.
    • C.C. did tell Lelouch, after his battle with Mao she told him that sooner or later his Geass would get out of control. The Wall Banger for this troper is when there are signs of this happening, when he tried to Geass a Britannia he started to feel pain in his EYE!! So instead of talking to C.C. about it never even occurs to him that Geass power is acting strange. His ultimate secret weapon is acting weird and he never acknowledges it, him the Chessmaster.
      • Of course she never saw any reason to tell Lelouch before Mao showed up, gave no indication she would have told him if Mao hadn't shown up and never even warned Lelouch that there might be other Geass users appearing who might be hostile. Even if Lelouch was behaving foolishly you sometimes have to wonder if C.C. was subconsciously trying to either get Lelouch killed or to get him so enraged he'd kill her.
  • Rolo's death. It seems like it was written before they decided to have him kill Shirley and try to kill Nunnally. True, to Rolo, death seems like a very mundane and throwaway thing and Lelouch made no attempt to fix his problems, opting to use him like a pawn because of his belief that he was a Nunnally impostor. However, Lelouch's mistakes don't fix Rolo's. No matter what the reason, he did terrible things. He was an interesting character but he was FAR from a saint. Seriously, watch Shirley's death and then Rolo's death back-to-back and tell me you see NOTHING wrong. Hell, even Lelouch simply telling him to get out of his room rather than, say, killing him, beating him, mind-raping him for all he had done now that he no longer had a drive to hold back is hard to swallow. Lelouch smiling serenely and letting Rolo die in peace? I don't care how impressed he was that Rolo gave his life like that. I do not buy that Lelouch would just put aside the fact that Rolo killed Shirley - which led to one of the very few times in the series Lelouch broke down in tears - and acknowledge Rolo as this great guy.

    Inu Yasha 
  • InuYasha probably has others, but the most prominent Wall Banger is a "They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot" complaint. During the first season, Inuyasha's former lover Kikyo, previous incarnation of Kagome, is resurrected as a kind of golem/undead thing. Though the evil witch who created her failed to steal Kagome's soul and thus truly revive Kikyo, a spark of Kikyo's hatred and rage lingers within the shell; thus, she continues to "exist". To sustain herself, she must eat parts of human souls; otherwise, she reverts back to true death. It's uncertain how she's getting what she's eating, but whatever the method, it's gotta hurt someone. Despite the fact that soul eating is generally used to show that the Villain of the Week or Monster of the Week is truly evil, she is still able to use all of her old holy powers, and none of the main characters have any gripes towards her beyond her being the third point in the Inuyasha/Kagome Love Triangle. Inuyasha and Kagome's attitudes can be explained, somewhat - Inuyasha is a half-demon and doesn't think too highly of either race, and Kagome is Kikyo's reincarnation. (Though perhaps that should make Kagome more horrified at Kikyo.) But neither Sango, a fully fledged Demon Slayer, nor Miroku, a somewhat shady but still skilled Buddhist monk, find anything the least reprehensible about Kikyo's eating habits.
  • Kagome rescued Kouga, a guy who kidnapped her, threatened to eat Shippou, and led the slaughter of at least one village for no particular reason. Even she realized that she was at fault, and that Inu Yasha was justified in doubting her fidelity from her actions. At least it worked out in the end.
  • Any time InuYasha is called out for being stupid because he isn't able to read other people's behaviours well enough to know their emotions (such as in the case of romance). True, sometimes the cues he misses are obvious; but it's as if no one In-Universe ever paid attention. InuYasha has reasons not to notice these things. Just look at what we know of his history:
    1. Both of his parents died when he was young. Most children get their first human interaction from their parents and learn to read emotions from them. Unfortunately, InuYasha was orphaned, so he missed out on that.
    2. He was despised by both humans and demons and suffered discrimination for it for his whole life. After his parents died, no one ever showed him kindness; he had never been exposed to the gentler or friendlier emotions. He's only just now seeing them with his True Companions, and so he's only now getting the chance to learn the meaning of those signals.
    3. He was isolated from human society and grew up alone in the forest. He had no human interaction. It's hard to learn the meaning of social expressions you haven't seen yet!
    4. He was outright at odds with demon society. The interactions he had with demonkind were filled with intimidation, bigotry, malice, hatred, and anger. No positive or gentle emotions there...
    5. Most demons don't seem to have kind impulses. Be honest here! In the series, most demons showed no kindness or caring; those who did showed it only to people close to them. Even for these, the gentler emotions are harsh by human terms. And most of InuYasha's pre-series emotional education came from demon society by default.
    6. The only being who was always in InuYasha's life, his most personal influence, is his Aloof Big Brother Sesshoumaru, who always attacks and degrades him for being a Half-Human Hybrid.
    7. The first person to show him kindness other than his mother was Kikyou, who was always reserved. Also, they weren't together for that long — possibly only a few months. That was all the time he had, pre-series, to learn of the gentler human emotions.
    8. Because of Naraku's trickery, InuYasha's memories of Kikyou's kindness were tainted with betrayal. Even though he knows the truth now, it doesn't change that they could be easily turned against each other again. Betrayal hurts. Any progress InuYasha had made in learning how to empathise with others was slowed down significantly because of one horrible incident that hurt not only him, but also Kikyou.
    9. This is the Sengoku Era. When InuYasha was raising himself in the forest, he had no TV, no internet, and no reading material. He had no way to learn positive human emotions second-hand.
    • Even though his friends all know this much, none of them seem to realise that he cannot be expected to understand the subtle hints they give him about how they feel; nor do they get that he cannot be sure what the proper reaction is if he does get the hints. Instead, they just tell him how stupid he is for not knowing these things. It's only worse considering how emotional they can get (mainly Kagome). And when he gets something wrong, rather than tell him what he did or said wrong, he gets scolded for being rude or inconsiderate; his confusion about why is brushed off. He cannot learn what he's doing wrong because no one is teaching him. True, he is constantly wrong when it comes to positive emotional issues (negative ones, he's got down pat), so it can look like that InuYasha does wrong because he is stupid. But the writers go out of their way to show that InuYasha had a horrible life so that Kagome can try to mend his heart, and to make sure she knows it; and yet, no one realizes that, in this case, mending his heart includes teaching him how to show affection and love like a human. And they call him out for not being perceptive and understanding...
  • Koga being treated as anything other than a black-hearted villain. Other characters in this series have crossed the Moral Event Horizon for far less than what he did. He let a pack of man-eating wolves loose on at least two human settlements, kidnapped Kagome, forced her to help him by threatening Shippo (he originally intended to just feed him to his wolves), and sat and let the tribe he eventually would spend all his time trying to avenge raid a human settlement with the explicit intent to kill anyone who tried to keep them from robbing the place. Even taking into account that Kagome only knew of the one raid (though she shouldn't be so stupid as to think this hasn't happened before), all the evil things he's done are glossed over without so much as a scolding.
    • Despite being Played for Laughs, he insists that Kagome is his woman and that he will marry her, and Kagome not telling him off doesn't help things. And he gets sympathy because he was used by Naraku and a majority of his comrades were killed by Kagura. Considering they probably viewed humans as simply food themselves, I feel real sorry for ya, Koga. The only logical reason he even stops his old habits is because Kagome wouldn't approve.
  • For InuYasha. Just all of the useless attacks that he learns. Really, what point did Rumiko see in giving InuYasha half of those attacks? Wind Scar becomes a Waif move the moment he can use it whenever he wants. Back Lash Wave is only ever used about three times, and not only is forgotten but never even used against Naraku. The Red Tetsusaiga form becomes non-essential once he upgrades his barrier breaking abilities with the Adamant Barrage. Now, Adamant Barrage is only useful to break barriers, but otherwise doesn't deal the damage it used to. Dragon-Scaled Tetsusaiga also becomes practically useless against Naraku in that it only breaks off some body parts without him ever weakening. Meidou Zangetsuha also was only as efficient against Naraku as the Wind Scar was. There's also Kouga who, once getting the Goraishi was basically Put on a Bus, and any hype about his weapon basically flopped as he wasn't even around to tap into any potential the weapon could have.
  • While it's understandable that Kagome would feel jealousy over Inuyasha and Kikyo's past relationship, there are times where this troper just wants to smack her and say, "Kagome, you are being unreasonable!" In episode 109, it's Kagome who suggests that Kikyo be carried by Inuyasha to safety, only for her to get mopey and jealous when Inuyasha does exactly what she says. We're meant to sympathize with Kagome here, but she ends up coming off as being really petty (it's a life-and-death situation, and all you can care about are your Love Triangle woes?). In episode 158, when Inuyasha tells Kagome that, no, he and Kikyo didn't talk because he never saw her, she refuses to believe him. A big theme of the Inuyasha/Kagome relationship is that they deeply trust each other, whereas Inuyasha and Kikyo immediately assumed the worst when Naraku tricked both into thinking the other had betrayed them, yet Kagome apparently doesn't trust Inuyasha enough to believe him when he's telling the truth about not talking to Kikyo. Oh, and Inuyasha's interactions with Kikyo, no matter how non-romantic they are in nature, are always interpreted as Inuyasha cheating on Kagome, despite the fact that Inuyasha and Kagome aren't even officially together until the very end!

    One Piece 
  • Many of the changes in the 4K!ds version of the anime. This version of the work was an indirect Trope Namer to Frothy Mugs of Water.
  • The Fishman Island's persecution of the Straw Hat Pirates. There was justification for their behavior (big racist tension between humans and merfolk, kidnapped mermaids, and a prediction that Luffy would destroy the island). But regardless, it was still annoying that they tried to arrest them based off nothing but suspicion. They didn't ever think that they might be creating a Self-Fulfilling Prophecy by antagonizing a very dangerous pirate crew that showed no ill intention towards the island in the first place.
  • The Padding this series has is ridiculous, we got almost six hundred episodes and we're not even to the halfway point of the story! Something that Oda started back in 1997 is still going on in 2013! They might as well change Arc Fatigue to Have They Found One Piece Yet? For all the crap Dragon Ball, Naruto, and Bleach got for the amount of padding and filler they got nothing on One Piece.
    • The padding in the anime is downright offensive. Instead of using filler arcs to avoid overtaking the manga, Toei has decided to pace the series at 1 episode = 1 chapter. Resulting in episodes with long drawn out sequences of characters standing and reaction shots. Fishman Island was the biggest offender; being an already long arc in the manga (51 chapters), it was taken to absurd levels in the anime.
  • One Piece has a potential wallbanger: Pell surviving the bomb explosion. Seriously, he was carrying the bomb when it blew up, and it was treated as a serious death. And then it's revealed that he survived with no explanation whatsoever.
    • Of course if you think about it, the timer had 5 seconds left when Pell picked it up. Crocodile said it had a 5 km blast radius. So in order for the blast to not destroy the city, Pell had to have been carrying it pretty damn fast. So it's not completely impossible for him to have dropped it at the very last second and gotten far enough away so he only got seriously hurt.
    • Meaning all he needed was to move 10 km in five seconds. Well, probably a single km is survivable: when the bomb explodes, the effect is visible from the ground as a big explosion, impossible to be 5 km away. So, 2 km in five seconds... 1440km/h. SONIC BOOM!
    • Pell has to lift the bomb (which is standing still) as well as carry it far enough. Assuming constant acceleration, to get as far as 5 km in 4 seconds (I give him 1 second to fly away) carrying a 10-ton bomb, his wings would have to generate lift equal to almost a tenth of the freaking Saturn V rocket.
  • During the Enies Lobby Arc, a group consisting of 40+ individuals which include the Franky Family, the Galley-La shipwrights, Yokozuna (a giant frog), 2 giants, and 2 huge King Bulls were blown away by a Buster Call, a massive military assault by the Marines. This attack caused that huge group to fall down a ravine to their deaths... except later on during Chapter 428 (manga) and Episode 310 (anime), every single one of them actually survived! Everyone that fell was unscathed by the Buster Call except for the 2 giants, because they took the brunt of the assault. They were clearly battered, but they survived, as well. Now, this trope really comes into play because of how they were saved. They were rescued by Paulie, a Galley-La shipwright who fights with ropes. This one guy used his ropes to create 4 giant knotted nets that are neatly tied to catch everyone that fell and each net was needed to catch the giants and King Bulls by their legs (by the tails in the case of the Bulls). Keep in mind that Paulie's ability to use ropes isn't a Devil Fruit power. If that were the case, this ridiculous rescue would have been much easier to accept.
    • The only explanation for this is that Paulie pulls his ropes out of Hammerspace, which makes this even more absurd, even by One Piece standards. The fact that this rope rescue happened offscreen tells us that there's no way this could have been made believable onscreen. It's as if Oda sat down after writing that scene and said "Well, they needed to be rescued and Paulie can toss around ropes... yeah. Seems legit."
      • Remember, nobody dies in One Piece except for in Flashbacks and those Dumbasses who drank the Hero Water and fought Crocodile.
  • Speaking of which. A crowd of people we've never met before suddenly run in to fight Crocodile, explaining that they've taken a magical power-boosting McGuffin never mentioned before that'll kill them in five minutes. Then they die. Everyone screams at Crocodile that he's so evil. The problem is that we already know he's a dick! Why treat this as his Moral Event Horizon when we have no attachment whatsoever to these characters, and he's already done way worse?
    • And they don't even get to fight at all and show this so-called power boost. And then they're never mentioned again. Wow, that was pointless.

    Ranma ˝ 
As it went on, Ranma 1/2 developed a few Wallbangers.
  • An anime only story, involving a literal Red String of Fate, was almost all Wallbanger. Firstly, Akane fails to realise that Ranma's sudden affections for Shampoo are induced by a magic item that she saw being put on. Then she spends the rest of the episode sulking in her room, claiming that it's all Ranma's fault and that she has no reason to fix things even when she's made aware that love magic is to blame. She only goes and ruins things because of a burst of wounded pride at the last minute. Then you have Shampoo, who not only fails to ask Ranma to sign a marriage license (the only thing she needs for their marriage to be legal in Japan) so she can get a church wedding, which gives her rivals plenty of time to screw things up, but also sends invitations to her rivals and hangs around the Tendo Dojo after zapping Ranma, which gives them a chance to realise why Ranma is suddenly head over heels for her.
  • "Ranma, You're Such a Jerk!" is a misleading title. The episode has Akane at her most jerkassish, but nobody even thinks of scolding her for the trouble she's caused. It's stories like this that cause people to consider her a Jerk Sue.
    • Also, Ryoga comes to the conclusion that Ranma raped or tried to rape Akane when everyone thought she had run away, and he chases after Ranma with the intent to beat him up. Akane was on the roof of the dojo the whole time. Yes, Ryoga's very protective of Akane, but sheesh...
      • Not actually that far out of character for him, really. We're talking the same guy who, in the manga, actually leapt to the conclusion that Ranma had raped Akane in the Hiryu Shoten Ha arc and proceeded to try and kill him for it. Despite, y'know, knowing perfectly well that Ranma is so weak he can't even hurt a little kid with his most powerful punch and the fact Akane is shouting that Ranma has done nothing wrong all the while. Yes, Ranma did a bit of egging on to get Ryoga mad enough that he could finally perform the Hiryu Shoten Ha, but let's not forget, Ryoga accused Ranma first.
    • Akane getting mad at Ranma and asking "What did P-Chan ever do to you?" after she sees P-Chan bite Ranma on the butt when they were just talking to each other.
  • "Ryoga, Run Into the Sunset" has Ryoga abandon a girl who truly loves him and whom he himself feels something for to return to being P-chan for Akane. Better Akane's pig than someone else's beloved?!
  • And then Ranma is unaware of the fact that his female form's lesser reach will make him disadvantaged against the taller Mousse in their first duel, especially after having fought Ryoga and many other opponents without this ever being an issue.
  • "The Last Days of Happosai...?", in which Soun and Genma's Dirty Old Man Fair Weather Mentor begins to get sick and claims to be dying, which causes them to get truly upset and start panicking about what this will mean for the future of the Anything-Goes style. Happosai never trains anyone, not even his "heir" Ranma; and Soun and Genma normally hate Happosai so much that, after he got weak in an earlier story, they attempted to express-mail him to the North Pole.
  • The Loss of Identity anime episode "Am I... Pretty?" First, the justification for the Loss of Identity is ridiculous: Ranma has taken much harder and more deliberate blows without much more than a concussion. The skeeziness as Ranma goes right through the Girly phase and out the other side makes this episode painful to watch; "Girly Ranma" even willingly offers to let Happosai do whatever he wants with her to apologize for fending off his attempt to grope her. And Akane Tendo gets hit with such extreme Flanderization that this may be the episode people refer to when they claim that the anime turned Akane into a bitch. She effectively does nothing but sulk, throw tantrums, and scream at Ranma for the entire half-hour.
    • And then there's the disturbing implications presented by SUPER-GIRLY Ranma: is THIS what Ranma's subconscious psyche thinks a woman should be like? Given how little interaction Ranma seems to have had with the opposite sex growing up...
  • One of the major plot points in the entire series, and especially prominent in the early seasons, is that Ranma must hide his condition from the public. This is one of the driving forces of the second and third episodes of the first season (for instance, Genma has to help Ranma hide his condition when it starts to rain). This is a driving force in many episodes during the early series, but was done away with in the manga during the Mousse introductory arc. Since the anime took a different direction that preserved the secret, the plotline was kept, and many other stories had to be adapted from the manga to match. But in Season 7, episode 20, out of nowhere, for no reason whatsoever, Genma explicitly demonstrates Ranma's transformation in front of the entire school while Ranma himself is incapacitated. Not only does it violate this basic plot point, but it also isn't funny (which would have made it more tolerable).
  • In the manga version of Hinako's arrival, in a scene that was removed from the anime adaptation, Akane demanded that Ranma explain just why he was harassing Hinako... only to pay no attention to what he says (he tells her that he's trying to hit pressure points that will nullify her aura-stealing power) even when he shows her the pressure point chart he's using. Instead, she accuses him of being a hornball pervert who just wants to grope Hinako's cleavage. Then she punches him through the roof when, while trying to respond to her accusation, he mentions as an aside that she's rather flatchested. After that, she's shown remembering the "conversation" as, basically, Ranma telling her that he has every right to grope and she has none to interfere. If this isn't Selective Obliviousness, then what is it?
  • Speaking of the manga version of the hypnotic mushroom story; Akane believes that Ranma will try and take advantage of her because they're home alone together and she is sick. Even after learning he's only been trying to hug her because of mind control, and he's otherwise proven he's quite willing to just stay out of her way otherwise, the last panel shows herself surrounding herself with weapons and keeping a very close eye on Ranma. The anime, at least, removes this by changing the ending for a gag where Ranma and Akane are united in discomfort by the family serving up a load of mushroom-dishes after they finally manage to get rid of Shampoo.
  • The manga also has the Dō-chan arc; Akane gets a magical outfit that makes her the most powerful martial artist in the series. She proceeds to not only routinely curbstomp Ranma but also gloat over her newfound power and mock him as a weakling. She is then surprised when Ranma, never the most sensible sort about this kind of thing, promptly starts trying his damnedest to get the dogi off her... particularly since this is exactly the same thing that happened when she got her hands on the Super Soba powerup.
  • One of the Nodoka stories before she finally manages to meet Ranma has her meet him at last... but, because Happosai is feeling particularly like being a Jerk Ass today, Ranma has been dressed as a girl without his knowledge when she does meet him. Nodoka immediately dresses in the outfit for seppuku and tells Ranma to get ready to die — she doesn't even give him a chance to explain himself! One would almost think she wants to kill Ranma if she's willing to go for her sword with that little provocation. Adding more fuel to the fire is that Noh acting, a very traditional and manly artform, relies heavily on men crossdressing as women, as women are traditionally forbidden from being actual performers. Yes, Ranma isn't a Noh actor, but Nodoka didn't know that at the time!
    • Interestingly enough Noh was originally done by women but they were later outlawed from doing it in the Edo period because too many of them were thought to be prostitutes.
  • Speaking of Jusendo, how about Ranma not beating seven shades of shit out of Soun Tendo and/or Genma Saotome for stealing his cure, trying to blackmail him and Akane into getting married with it, and ultimately being responsible for him staying cursed, at the end of the Failed Wedding?
  • Similarly, why did neither Ranma, who proclaimed (if only to himself) at the end of the last Jusendo to be in love with Akane, nor Akane, who was willing to get married to Ranma at last, even seem to think of calling Nabiki out for ruining the affair, given she was the one who called all of their respective rivals/would-be love interests to the wedding?
    • In part because Ranma at least clearly does not want to get married at that time. He even states he is too young and needs more time in volume 37, and tried to start a fight with Akane to avoid being married in volume 38. Ranma is more likely to thank her than condemn her for getting the wedding ruined.
      • Ranma might not have wanted to get married, but Akane seemed to want to do so. Even if she didn't, neither she nor Ranma would really appreciate that Nabiki would put Akane's life in danger for money or made a fool out of them in front of so many people.
      • Perhaps they realized this little fact off-screen: a wedding would probably do nothing to invalidate their rivals/would-be love interests' claims. If anything, they would've torn up the house even worse out of sheer anger. Pretending that the wedding was going to make everything A-OK was not a smart course of action, no matter how one looks at it.
  • Akane actually siding with her father in placing all of the blame for the wedding being a disaster on Ranma is also rather incentive to introduce one's skull to the nearest wall.

    Sailor Moon 
  • Telulu's death. Basically, one of her monsters turns on her and is about to eat her. She's screaming like mad, and begging the Senshi to help her right until she dies (the plant doesn't even eat her, it blows up with her still tangled in it)... and SAILOR MOON JUST STANDS THERE, and DOESN'T EVEN SAY ANYTHING!!! Now, anyone who watched the show would say that Telulu is arguably the cruelest of the Witches 5, but come on! At least justify not saving her!
    • That was in the dub only. In the original, she just orders the plant to let her go and never asks for help. Still, Sailor Moon arguably could have attempted to save her anyway, but didn't. In fact, the Sailor Senshi also could have tried to stop Telulu from "unplugging" Mimete eariler (she spent a while monologing to Mimete so there was a good opportunity to attack her, though to be fair they probably had no idea what the hell she was talking about and what she was about to do until it was too late). At least the reaction to Viluy's death was appropriate: they lamented it but given the nature of the death, it was kind of impossible to do anything about it when it was happening.
  • Queen Nehelenia's portrayal in the beginning filler arc of Stars. She is suddenly made out to be a Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds who grew up lonely and unloved, and she became so vain because the only one she could count on to love her was herself. This is revealed in an incredibly heavy-handed way, with all the Sailor Senshi crying over this sob story (even Uranus and Neptune, which is so out of character it's ridiculous) and Usagi suddenly in full Messiah mode and desperate to redeem Nehelenia. In the end, Usagi actually pushes the Reset Button on Nehelenia's life, making her back a child again able to grow up with love and friendship. All of this completely ruins how Nehelenia was portrayed in Super S which, while usually criticized for being too light, had her as a very dark character: a woman so obsessed with staying beautiful that she would cross the Moral Event Horizon to do so, and whose ending (willingly staying sealed inside a floating mirror so that she'd remain young and beaufiul, and laughing insanely about this fact as she dissapears into space) was so darkly tragic and well-done that seeing it undone in exchange for a (as of this point overdone) "villain gets redeemed and has a happy ending" outcome is really frusturating.
  • In episode 66 (in the English dubbed version at least), Chibi-Usa calls Usagi a "rude brat" in front of the other Sailor Scouts after finding out that she's Sailor Moon. Well excuse me Chibi-Usa, but have you checked yourself and your behavior lately? Sure Usagi may be irritating and lazy, but you should at least be thankful and not act like a total bitch to the person who saved your butt countless times!
    • Let's not forget, her actions, which involve stealing the Silver Crystal, result in the other scouts getting captured by Rubeus. Mamoru has to hold back Usagi from slapping her when she rightly blames her for everything.

    Soul Eater 
  • The episode where Black Star first tries to kill a witch. This would be fine (within the show's logic) if the witch had, for instance, killed someone or destroyed a town. But it turns out the witch is just a kid whose never commited a crime in her life. Black Star doesn't kill her, but it is implied that IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PERFECTLY LEGAL FOR HIM TO DO SO! At no point do any of the other characters even suggest that he'd suffer any negative consequences for doing this; he would be rewarded! Tsubaki tells him to kill her, and their teacher/leader flat out tells him that he should have killed her. Something is wrong with this system.
  • The shoehorned fan service that suddenly appeared in the later half of the manga has drove several readers over the edge more than once. While Soul Eater has had its fair share of fan service, especially in the prologues, it's mostly been tame as compared to other shonen series that featured a World of Buxom. Then suddenly, the fan service became so outrageous at certain points that it's hard to even find it amusing. The most excruciating examples of this include:
    • The fact that in order to open a portal to the Witch's area, Kim Diehl has to use her butt to draw out the characters needed to summon it. She needed to use her ass to open a portal. And this took a whole page full of panels of nothing but Kim lifting up her skirt and then having her shake her butt right at the reader's face. This is apparently a Stealth Pun that may have been funnier in the original language, but it came off as extremely distasteful, even if Kim is around 17-18 years old at this point in the manga.
    • The "Insanity of Boobs" that suddenly took over the world after Crona's Heroic Sacrifice on the moon, which involves all the characters becoming obsessed with boobs and spending at least half of the last chapter of the series focusing on it. Blair shoves her boobs in Soul's face, Tsubaki gets a few panels completely naked because Black*Star wouldn't let her bathe in peace, and Liz and Patty are once again being groped by Kid. While it acted as a Call Back to the prologues of the series, it came off as completely unnecessary because it was never mentioned again and served no purpose in the later half.

    Other 
  • In general, any case of a Dub Name Change where the names of only some characters are changed, or if the character's name is changed to something that is still foreign to the dub audience. Since the point of a name change is usually so that the viewers can understand the characters' names, if some of the characters are still going to have foreign names, then why bother?
  • Fushigi Yuugi had a subplot involving Nuriko, the story's Wholesome Crossdresser. We're given every indication that Nuriko is interested in men and dislikes that people assume a "weird" reason for his crossdressing; the fans reasoned that the Suzaku Senshi aren't Miaka's harem... until a subplot occurred, revealing that Nuriko dresses that way to emulate his dead sister. This was coupled with a sudden interest in the lead girl of the story. In the eyes of some viewers, the "interest" in Miaka is no more than Nuriko regarding her as something like a younger sister (or a Replacement Goldfish for his actual dead little sister) but the reason for the crossdressing is a groaner.
    • Nuriko's death also falls into this category; he kills himself by overstressing his injured body to move a giant boulder from blocking the entrance to a cave instead of waiting for Mitsukake to come and heal him. Even if there was some reason why he couldn't just sit and wait, the boulder isn't blocking the entrance completely. At most it would be a minor inconvenience while the rest of the Seishi had to shimmy past it; there's even skeletons in the cave already.
    • On a different subject, why does Miaka decide to break up with Tamahome without telling him why when she finds out that she has to be a virgin to summon Suzaku? Are they trying to send some kind of anti-abstinence message? Do they believe that Courtly Love is impossible?
    • What about the ending of Fushigi Yuugi: Eikoden? Mayo cries a lot, and everybody just forgets how she willfully crossed the Moral Event Horizon and then taunted her victims about it.
      • It's par the course for the series: at the end of the series proper, there was Nakago's hastily revealed tragic past which was supposed to make everyone forget what he did and trick us into thinking he was a Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds instead of the cruel monster he really was.
  • Some people consider the inclusion of Fumu (localized as Tiff) in the Kirby of the Stars an example; to them, she's nothing but an annoying character who completely steals the show away from Kirby (the star of the show) so the writers can deliver an Anvilicious Green Aesop. Others consider Kirby eating a lightning bolt shaped like a sword to become Sword Kirby a Wall Banger. Still others blast the show for its constant use of Conspicuous CG... Everything about this show is a Wall Banger to someone.
  • In a later episode of Cowboy Bebop ("Wild Horses"), the crew are facing criminals that attack ships with a computer virus to immobilize them. Not only does no one remember that the Bebop has an insanely skilled computer wizard/hacker on board, but also the virus is administered by physically hitting the ships with spiked transfer cables. This is the equivalent of jabbing a USB cord into your motherboard and expecting it to connect.
    • This could make the tiniest bit of sense if the spikes were wireless transmitters that hacked the ship's computer through its WiFi connection. However, if this is the case, they shouldn't need the spike to penetrate the ship's armor at all - latching on to the communication antenna should do just as well.
  • A lot of the drama in episode 9 of Mai-Otome- specifically, Arika and Erstin's emergency bracelets being sabotaged and breaking down at the worst possible time - could have been easily avoided had the staff not left everyone's camping supplies in an unguarded tent at night, or had they double-checked them before the start of the test to make sure everything was working properly.
    • The Zwei OVAs garnered a lot of hate, partly due to the Giant Space Flea from Nowhere plotline, partly due to spending an entire episode of a four-episode series in a Beach Episode when more interesting things were being discussed offscreen, and finally by being a waste of time and pointless Fanservice.
  • Some consider this the case with Shizuru's Face-Heel Turn in the second half of Mai-HiME and find it hard to accept that she would willingly attack people out of spite without any setup or foreshadowing, especially since she'd been unquestionably on the side of the good guys until then. She does get called out for some of the things she did and is eventually taken down by Natsuki; but one has to wonder if it's worth it, since the writers were going to undo it later. Not only was there no proper foreshadowing for Shizuru's attitude change, but there also were indications against. Her reason for her rampage is that she's defending Natsuki, who has lost control of her powers; a few episodes earlier, Shizuru had no qualms about reserving the fate of Natsuki AND her child to a giant space laser.
    • The Ending itself can be considered a Wall Banger because of the sheer amount of Karma Houdini involved and everyone's coming back to life, which negated the events of a good chunk of the series.
      • The festival story arc is a larger Wall Banger; it completely negates all of the relationships of the characters, as well as the mistrust set up against Nagi after Natsuki blows open that he's been lying about the significance of each HiME's beloved, that occur up to episode 17—well over half of the series! The ending is a Cosmic Retcon of the continuity mess created from that sudden genre change.
    • Also, was it necessary to make Ishigami-sensei use sex to get under Sister Yukariko's skin and trigger her Face-Heel Turn? That incident didn't help the portrayal of males, who were almost always portrayed as bad in the series.
  • In the eyes of many, the finale of Neon Genesis Evangelion is one of these moments, although this is a source of some controversy. Major financial troubles meant that they had to throw out their original script for episode 25 and make a completely new one for the last two episodes. They had to cut costs everywhere possible. But some would argue that, in the long view, there was no way the ending couldn't be a wallbanger. Even if the staff could have snapped their fingers for unlimited money in the end, the original TV series would have had to pack some variant of most of the events of End of Evangelion in forty minutes of effective airtime. It would still likely be a trainwreck in most people's minds, given how many plots, conspiracies, and Aesops were flying around towards the end. NGE's original TV run was too ambitious to close out with two television episodes or even one feature film. This, ostensibly, is the reason Rebuild of Evangelion exists; part 3 and part 4 especially are expected desperately hoped to streamline the story significantly and lead to a completely different ending... one that doesn't cause people to wreck their homes via headbutting.
    • At the time of the Evangelion films' release, some articles indicated that they were the product of Executive Meddling. Otaku absolutely loathed the ending of the series because it said "pull your fingers out of your ass and do something with your life!" to them. They complained so much that the producers forced Anno to write a new ending. The result could be seen as Anno showing the middle finger to his audience: "So you didn't like the ending? How about THIS ONE, MOTHERFUCKERS?!". This is reinforced by some other interventions where Anno declared that the scene where Shinji masturbates over Asuka's comatose body was his way of expressing how he felt about the whole deal.
      • Ehhh... that's not the only reason. The actual mythos of the series was never completed within the context of the story. They... supposedly released the true answer to the series, and the information inside it is... rather odd. To say the least. Honestly, the actual "official" explanation was so narm that I think they were trolling the fanbase again...
    • In episode 4 of the TV series Misato is angry that Shinji ignored her orders to retreat from battle in the previous episode. So how does she handle balancing the very fragile self esteem of their only available pilot against teaching him how a pilot needs to act? Does she carefully tell him that she's glad that he succeeded and that everyone's glad he's alive but that he put himself in serious danger and he can't do that again? Nope, she berates him for not following orders and then berates him for only answering her statements with a vague 'yes'. Even she admits that it isn't a surprise when he runs away a few days later. Even crazier is the fact that no one seems to be panicking when Shinji (the only uninjured pilot in Japan) decides to stop piloting.
      • Shinji getting punched by Touji. Not Touji actually hitting him, that's still really stupid but Touji is a fourteen-year old boy, aggressive and really short sighted. NERV (and Misato's) response to it is the wallbanger. They do nothing. It's confirmed that Shinji has a security detail watching him but nothing was done to either prevent this or to detain Touji and rush Shinji to a medical expert. When Ritsuko questions this Misato just waves it off by saying that she doesn't want to interfere with Shinji's private life. Even if we ignore the incredibly stupid point that this could have easily led to Japan's only useful pilot being knocked into a coma, there's still another major drop in intelligence. Misato? Your organization has already dragged a boy away from his home to put him in constant peril, forced him to work for his emotionally abusive father, forced him to live with you (and objectively Misato isn't close to a reliable guardian) and assigned agents to spy on him... By this point interfering in someone's private life is no longer up for debate, they have already invaded his private life. Shinji's private life is officially under NERV occupation and Misato is the supreme commander of the Shinji Occupation Forces. You would think that they could spare a bit of time from ruining his life to actually interfere in a way that would protect one of the few people on the planet who can save everyone.
      • OK, so it's generally accepted that Gendo wanted to cause Instrumentality so that he and his wife would get togehter again. Now, what type of person would actually carry out a plan to end the world just to be with his wife? An insane one maybe but it's been established that Gendo himself isn't insane.
  • "A Kind Land" in Kinos Journey. There's a degree of Fridge Brilliance to it, as the sequence is essential to Kino's character and to the theme of the story in general; but it's frustratingly heavy-handed and monotonous in a series that normally leaves the moralizing to the viewer and prides itself on inspiration and uniqueness.
  • The D.Gray-Man manga features an inherently Wall Bang-worthy scene: a flashback of a priest cursing God after losing his fiance... to a humongous cross held up by a very flimsy rope. Instead of going after whoever placed a massive cross on the ceiling using the tiniest rope available, he picks up a massive axe and shouts at God in the most cheesy, over-the-top manner possible. The anime changed the cross to a chandelier. So, instead of the nun being killed by a massive cross on the ceiling held up by a flimsy rope, which, while improbable, serves for a good dose of irony and justifies the man's cursing God because no one saw it coming and the woman is killed after saying "I believe" — it's a chandelier with an equally flimsy rope that breaks right on their wedding day, which makes one wonder why nobody checked to make sure that problem was never there? That's not much of an improvement.
  • Mnemosyne has two such moments: the first involves The Reveal that Apos is a hermaphrodite, which to some was a Diminishing Villain Threat moment; the other is the Bait-and-Switch Lesbians situation that put Rin with a guy in the end and made her pregnant.
    • What, you can't be yuri if you are bi?
    • Most likely, the Yuri Fans were pissed that, once again, a lesbian Official Couple (threesome if you wanted Mishio in on it as well) didn't come to pass.
    • Apos being a hermaphrodite shouldn't be a Wall Banger if you have even a cursory knowledge of mythology, especially concerning effeminite gods and angels. But these days, many people know only the Hollywood version.
  • Glass Fleet spends an entire series establishing its Big Bad, Holy Emperor Vetti Sforza, as a Manipulative Bastard who only cares about himself and uses other people as tools. Even the revelation of the Freudian Excuse in his backstory doesn't make him any more sympathetic, since it includes seducing (if not outright raping) his foster mother and convincing her to murder his foster father, and then murdering her. By the last episode, he's made it clear that his only interest is in prolonging his own life and killing the hero, Cleo - right up until he does kill Cleo and has a session of impromptu Epiphany Therapy with Cleo's spirit; after that, Vetti is apparently instantly redeemed. Michel, Cleo's lover and the longtime leader of La Résistance against Vetti, ends up loyally following the man who drugged and raped her, supporting him as the ideal leader of the united galaxy.
    • Right after the story of Cleo's parents, Vetti is revealed to be Cleo's twin brother despite Cleo being the only baby shown in the flashback.
  • In YuYu Hakusho, Kuwabara's sister, Shizuru, has romantic feelings for Sakyo even after overhearing the guy admit that he's been a complete monster since childhood. Shizuru was around him in life for only three scenes in the entire series; she can't know if he has a heart of gold anywhere in there. Now in the anime (which this whole thing is only present in), Sakyo isn't a complete complete monster, mind you — he has a few Pet the Dog moments, and he gets a noble death — but he wanted to have demons overrun the earth for the excitement. Love is blind; crushes are blinder.
  • It seems rather strange that in Full Metal Panic!, the characters forget that they are working for a mercenary organization at the most painful opportunity - namely, after capturing the Ax-Crazy and financially secure Gauron near the end of the first series. Nothing that happens after this in the show is unpredictable except for the lack of Lambda Drive use.
    • Sousuke's recalling in The Second Raid.
      • Hell, the way Tessa handled Sousuke's recalling. Seriously, you're not making things go over any smoother by antagonizing the already mentally-unstable poor boy by disregarding his worry that Wraith is an incompetent replacement bodyguard for Kaname. And his fears were justified - Wraith was completely incompetent, so much so that Kaname managed to get the jump on her and trick her. She even gets shot by the assassins she was supposed to protect Kaname from; evidently, she didn't even notice the assassin.
  • The anime version of Witchblade will probably piss off the fans of the comic for one reason. The Witchblade and its Evil Knockoff variants invariably kill their users with prolonged use. This was probably a stylistic decision to heighten the show's (well done) drama, or at worst one to make it more acceptable to Moral Guardians. But it's NOT true in the comic which it is was based on - and the anime is supposed to be part of the comicverse's canon! Most fans would probably have accepted if only the bastardized knockoffs killed their users - that would fit with other canon - but the Witchblade itself? Or if there was a good reason given for the Witchblade to kill its users - for instance, if Angelus and Darkness got roles in the anime and cursed the Witchblade and anything related to it to backfire and kill the users as revenge for the Witch Blade's power being so grotesquely perverted by damn near everybody. That would've made the ending even better. But there wasn't.
    • It should be mentioned that the Witch Blade canonically has the power to OVERCOME Death, adding to this Wallbanger.
    • Also? Ron Marz, pretty much god of the Witchblade universe, has never even seen the anime. Take from that what you will.
  • The otherwise extremely entertaining Overman King Gainer commits one such moment in the next-to-last episode: namely, when Gainer and Gauli fall under the Overdevil's control, their respective love interests Sara and Adette try to snap them back to sanity with a kiss. Adette manages to do so (even though her feelings for Gauli came out of nowhere); but Sara's attempt fails miserably, and she gets Brainwashed and Crazy as well. No explanation is given for such different outcomes. Not only does it seem that this was done only for the sake of drama, but it also looks like Tomino was doing an In-Universe Real Women Never Wear Dresses - meaning, he was biased against Sara just for not being a tough, badass Action Girl like Adette.
  • Endless Eight * BANG* Endless Eight * BANG* Endless Eight * BANG* Endless Eight * BANG* Endless Eight * BANG* It wouldn't be so bad except they just wouldn't stop. To explain, "Endless Eight" was a short story from the Haruhi Suzumiya novel that was expanded into 8 episodes, which, since it was a "Groundhog Day" Loop, were mostly the sames scenes re-animated. The length of time spent on it - more than half of the season - and the fact that it could easily have been done in one episode (since the novel only showed the last cycle) makes this a Wallbanger.
    • The REAL crime in Endless Eight? Nagato specifically mentions that the more than 15,000 loops they pass through are NOT identical. The gang regularly did different activities (most notably, working completely different part-time jobs). A lot of the fun of "Groundhog Day" Loop stories is watching people try different things each loop. But we almost NEVER see this, except once when there's a short, brushed-over montage of them at karaoke and going fishing. Episodes 2-7 ARE virtually identical except for minor visual changes. Kyo Ani had the potential to make Endless Eight suck slightly less, and they FUMBLED IT!
    • Biggest wall banger of all? Easy. Why did they make a 30-page story last for 2 whole months of airtime? Because of the name "Endless Eight", right? The "eight" refers to the fact that the story happens in August! * sob* * sob*
      • The reasoning for Endless Eight becoming the insanity it was actually involves The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya. Endless Eight was originally planned as a more-manageable three-episode arc (which would have been plenty aggravating, but less ridiculous than eight), and Disappearance was planned as a 5-episode TV arc. After plans changed and Disappearance was reallocated as a movie, Kyo Ani had five empty episode slots and no more light novels to adapt, so something had to be stretched out, and Endless Eight fit the bill perfectly.
  • Twin Spica had one in the form of Mr. Sano, one of Asumi's teachers. Mr. Sano hates Asumi because he thinks that her father was responsible for an accident and (more importantly!) that her father was stealing his spotlight as worker in the Lion project. Then Asumi, our heroine, has a little trouble because the school couldn't find a space suit her size and had to order a new one. The problem is, it is too expensive for the school's budget and, apparently, getting the extra money for it would require a drastic reduction of everybody's salaries (the hell?). Then Mr. Sano suggests kicking Asumi out of the school because they couldn't afford the space suit, even though the school was already very selective and it was very hard for her to enroll there in the first place. The other teachers reject the idea, but they do consider the suggestion first. And then Mr. Sano tries to make her quit by telling her that, since her father was responsible for the horrible space accident years before, she couldn't become an austronaut. After hearing that, she doesn't even consider that Mr. Sano might be wrong - she immediately starts wangsting about it. Granted, Mr. Sano leaves school after the whole thing, but God, was that an infuriating plot.
  • Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust has this happen at the very end, after Carmella's castle is destroyed: Leila is left without transportation, and the nearest town is some ways away. D offers to take her back to town, and she accepts. He offers her a hand up, which she rejects, and then she mounts D's horse. This drove the whole character into obstinate stupidity: there's no point in rejecting someone's hand in a show of independence when you're relying on them to carry you MILES ACROSS THE DESERT!!! It wasn't like D was trying to get in her pants anyway, and she knew this. Of course, Leila was just a cut above Too Dumb to Live status anyway, and would have died if not for D.
  • The "Tree Scene" from the anime series incarnation of X/1999. In the manga, it made sense—the tree that Kotori fell from wasn't that high, and Kamui caught her from the ground. In the anime, the two of them are climbing a tree that appears to be at least seven stories tall when the branch that they are standing on breaks. Kamui manages to catch Kotori by the hand, and, promising to never let her go, hangs on for hours until help arrives. Oh, and he apparently passes out at some point ("Kamui, are you dead?").
  • Blue Submarine No. 6: So, what's the reason why Dr. Zorndyke caused the Pole Shift that all but wiped out the world and killed one billion people? Did he want to Take Over the World? Did he have a God complex and think he could do whatever he wanted with the world? No, he just thought mankind was too arrogant and needed to learn to live alongside the other living creatures. Excuse me, but what the hell? So he killed all those innocents and screwed up the world for such an idiotic reason? And we're supposed to think that he's somehow in the right? Bull, this troper says. Zorndyke killed one billion innocents, and that eliminates any tiniest share of reason he might have had. In this troper's mind, Zorndyke is and will always be nothing but a complete scumbag, and Kino should have put a bullet in his screwed-up brain right then and there, instead of stopping to listen to his excuses.
    • It gets worse that Zorndyke wants humanity to co exist with his children. Who are part-man, part-animal creatures who spent years hunting down humanity, and are even more murderous and cruel than what Zoendyke views humanity to be.
  • Elfen Lied, the Cliff Notes version: A mutant race of humans called Diclonius threaten to destroy humanity, in a large part through Natural Selection turned Up to Eleven. An organization exists to capture, control, and study these mutants. This organization contains a lot of bastardry in its ranks but, given what Diclonii are capable of and that they seem to almost universally hate humans no matter how nicely you treat them, a lot of it might be considered justified extremism. When it comes to catching Diclonii, their method involves... clearing the area and sending in truckloads of soldiers with high velocity rounds. This almost always involves casualties among the soldiers, it can damage the target if it's not a mission to kill Diclonii, and it usually doesn't stop the diclonius from getting one or two civilians before being subdued. The final fight at the end of the anime shows a major confrontation gone horribly wrong... Question: haven't these people heard of knockout gas and sonics? Send three unmarked units upwind of the targets, release gas, wait for targets to pass out. Throw them in the back of the party wagon. If anyone asks why they passed out at 3:30 that afternoon, then say it was a gas leak. Casualties: zero. Same for sonics: sonic weaponry exists in Real Life that can disable and disorient targets. Given that this is an anime, killing wouldn't be out of the question, either. Send one guy in an APC, have them fire off a sonic cannon, throw a net over the target while they're writhing on the ground, throw them in the back of the party wagon. Casualties: once again, zero. Then again, if this had been done, the anime would be about nine episodes shorter, and there would have been no excuse to perform all those experimental tortures on the subjects in the name of trying to contain them.
    • There is a slight chance that those weapons may not have worked. The diclonii are evolved; maybe they evolved a resistance to sonic weapons or to sleeping gas. Although, if this "no assurances of success" argument is the real reason, then one has to wonder why they wouldn't have tested these things on the Diclonius while it was in captivity!
    • A net? This would do what exactly against a diclonius? Their vectors are extremely powerful, and even under the influence of a sonic weapon, a diclonius could easily shred one. That said: why bother with all that? My standard operating procedure for diclonius capture would be to locate them, covertly observe, and when I had their patterns down, set up a sniper ambush with a tranquilizer. The target never suspects a thing, just gets a tranq shot at her out of the blue one day and goes down. To kill, obviously just swap the tranq for lethal ammunition. Subtlety and surprise is definitely the way to go with such an opponent.
      • One must also recall that those in utmost command of the Anti-Diclonius efforts are, shall we say, compromised? Chief Kakuzawa in particular believed that his family were the Original Diclonius, and that he was aiding the supremacy of his people. Lucy later taunted his corpse by saying, 'Nope-You were just Humans with small horns'. So maybe the wall-banging nature of the methods used served a secondary purpose.
    • Any knockout gas that can reliably work, particularly in open space, stands a good chance of outright killing a large percentage of weaker civilians (old people, babies, those with health problems) in radius. Sonic weapons are bulky and unreliable in their effects. There is a reason either are very rarely used against people who have actual weapons, and never in war.
  • Air Gear. No, we are not talking of the ludicrous technology behind Air Trecks. That's part of the scenery so you either accept it or don't read the manga. We are talking about how a Big Brother Mentor turned out to be not The Mole but the Big Bad himself, without ANYONE even suspecting him. Ok, his pupil was arguably on the dumb side, but the busty successor to his will did not seem so airhead despite the appearance, neither was The Trickster, neither were his former brothers in arms. And how he could possibly hide to his eternal girlfriend that he did not really need a WHEELCHAIR? And that he had conspired all the time with his Evil Twin that no one ever, EVER, heard of?? And that he and his brother work for the United States of America??? One could argue that his gambit worked so well that it actually fooled EVEN THE AUTHOR!!
  • The Curb-Stomp Battle that wraps up the second series of Fist of the North Star. This show isn't too keen on fighters fighting with equal footing, but it was just unbearable for the Final Battle to end in such an anti-climatic, melodramatic way.
  • This may only apply to a very bad dub adaptation, but Eagle Riders (composed of Gatchaman II and Gatchaman Fighter) pulled a very annoying one of these in its censorship department to tie both of its source series together. You could even call it an Ass Pull with how shoddy and confusing it wound up as: The villainess Gel Sadra, who had a bad case of being voiced by a man in the original, was changed into an alien male ("Mallanox") for the dub and had her tragic backstory (being kidnapped from the remains of a blown-up ship by the Big Bad that orchestrated it and mutated/rapid-aged) cut out. Saban had also claimed that Berg Katse (or "Lukan"), the villain of Science Ninja Team Gatchaman, was Mallanox's father. When it came time for Gel Sadra's backstory to creep back up, Saban then tried to re-instate her original origin and then gave her a FEMALE voice when in unmasked form to assert that yes, really, Mallanox was actually a woman. Yet then when it came time for her to die? Saban butchered her death scene and rewrote the dialogue to suggest that she was being transformed... into the villain of Gatchaman Fighter. Who they renamed "Happy Boy". So let's get this straight: A little girl being transformed into a man (yet who's not a man but actually a woman) then being transformed into a completely different blue-skinned man with an embarrassing name, is somehow more acceptable to children? Crazy.
  • Blue Drop. You have a powerful spaceship with an impressive AI, and you want to use it to ram your enemy's main attack vessel to slow down an invasion. So what do you do? You instruct the AI to maintain a collision course and you get the hell out of the w—na, scrap that. You plant you butt in the pilot's seat and go down with the ship that could easily have steered itself, after you eject the co-pilot. That makes so much more sense than trying to save yourself so you can aid earth's defense forces—and be with the one you love as a nice bonus.
    • All this idiocy is typical of the Arume: they idolize self-sacrifice above all else, so given their psychology, the Wall Banger behaviour makes perfect "sense".
  • Girls Bravo: In the first episode Yukinari accidentally walks in on Kirie in the bathroom when she's naked which results in her kneeing him in the face. He then goes through the process on how it was an accident and how, because of his allergies to girls, wouldn't even want to see her naked. She attacks him regardless for not wanting to see her naked. This is also despite the fact that it's HIS house and she didn't even ask to use to the bathroom in the first place and expects him to remember that she was gonna come over to use the bathroom again like yesterday.
    • Its quite a wonder that Yukinari's nose wasn't broken from that injury. Kirie has a tendency to overreact to anything she perceives as sexual in nature. And she has the never to insult him about how he has a physical aversion to females after she assaults him so often? Ever think maybe you're part of the problem Kirie?
  • Romeo X Juliet! The surviving Capulets keep Juliet in the dark about the fact that she's the last remaining heir and the hoped-for leader that will guide them to victory over the Montagues. They keep this a secret for fourteen years until her sixteenth birthday and refuse to answer any of her questions until then. And after they drop this epic drama-bomb on a normal teenage girl, they get upset and angry that she's naive, untrained, depressed, has no idea how to lead a revolution and has fallen in love with a man she had no idea was a threat to her. They just expect her to suck it up and cope until the Montagues are dead and then she'll be happy. What the hell were they expecting? For her to transform into a strong leader before their eyes? There is so much drama and angst that stems from this complete asshole move against her, the biggest of all being that she would never have met Romeo if she had known! Way to get them both killed, assholes.
  • Zoids: Genesis. The Hollywood Tactics in this show are just unbearable. The supposedly invincible Biozoids have indestructable armour, but it only outlines their Zoids' chassis in a lame skeleton motif and provides hardly any protection at all, and it's more than halfway through the series that anybody even thinks of going after the un-armoured portions. In the final episode, Emporer Gene curbstomps everybody with his Bio Tyranno, but only because everybody who faces him fights like idiots, throwing themselves at him one or two at a time and leaving themselves wide open. Also, the overhyping of Hell Armour, which is specifically stated to be immune to everything except for Metal Zi. Throughout the course of the series, Biozoids are shattered against cliff faces, crushed by falling rocks, and blown apart by beam weapons. The Biozoids are only as strong as the plot needs them to be, it seems.
  • In El Cazador de la Bruja, there is a very Spanish feel to the series and thus there are many characters who use Spanish. However, the Spanish of the voice actors is generally not too genuine sounding. However, on the cast they do have Monica Rial, who speaks very good Spanish... in a NON-SPEAKING ROLE as the Cute Mute.
  • Tenchi Muyo!, the third OVA. Just...the whole damn thing from episode fifteen onward. Mihoshi forgeting her brother's name. Ryoko getting slapped around like a rag doll? A whole episode dedicated to the martial issues of two characters no one cares about? Queen Misaki stronger than the three Chousin who created the universe? Washu could become a Chousin at any time and did nothing until now? Tenchi's mom a practical joker? Girl Kagato? There could be a folder just for these six episodes alone.
    • For Washu, it is justified. She had lost her memory and she did not remember that she was a chousin.
      • Then how the hell did she remember now? Where was the trigger? If she just up and remembered out of nowhere, that certainly doesn't help it.
  • A Little Snow Fairy Sugar. In this otherwise more-than-decent series, it's revealed that Saga's grandma Regina sold the piano at some point before the story started, for reasons only known to them and never explained. Okay, let's get this straight. Saga's mother Ingrid was a famous piano player before she got killed (giving it a lot of sentimental value), Saga herself enjoyed playing the piano as her number one hobby, her otherwise kindhearted grandmother sold it at some point even though they don't seem even remotely poor, and yet the two of them get along just fine. Even if the poor girl actually did have a fit about it when it happened, that still doesn't justify Regina doing something so out of character in the first place, when she knows damn well how much it meant to her. Look, I know it was an integral part of the story, but c'mon producers, would it have hurt to read your shit over and at least explain why granny made such a dick move?
  • Episodes 7 and 8 of Ore No Imōto Ga Konna Ni Kawaii Wake Ga Nai: Kirino decides to write a novel for fun and then submits it to a publishing house. It's implied that she wrote it in one day and that the story isn't even very good. (She is only fourteen.) But the publishing house chooses to publish her book, and it somehow becomes a best seller with an anime adaptation. Kirino is only a kid; there is no way that she could be talented enough to do that. This storyline put her straight into Canon Sue territory, as she succeeds in absolutely everything.
    • It was speculated by the characters that her anime was just there to fill in the gap of the season.
    • What about the "true" final episode? We were promised a "true" ending and instead we got another Gecko Ending where Kirino comes back for no reason (One almost wonders if the anime writers are in love with her, since they did the same for the first Gecko Ending) and everyone is happy because of that. Everyone. Even Kuroneko, who doesn't like Kirino at all and has zero reason to be happy she's back. The episode even ends with they two and Saori merrily jumping together, Saturday Morning Cartoon-style. The hell? Not to mention the rather gaping Plot Hole of Manami suddenly being best buddies forever with Ayase and having her cellphone number, despite the fact the two have never met (This is a Mythology Gag to the PSP Visual Novel, where they're friends too... also with no reason), particularly since there was a perfectly valid way around the issue that caused this twist (Ayase blocked the main guy's phone number so he can't call her, but he could have asked her friend Kanako fine. Instead, Manami pulls out Ayase's phone number out of her rectum).
  • The protagonists of Last Exile experience a sudden loss of logic somewhere between episodes 4 and 5. In #4, despite being attacked and nearly killed multiple times, they manage to survive their delivery trip and their "cargo," Al, is taken away by the person they were intending to deliver her to (the captain of the Silvana, a sky-battleship). They even get paid, partially at least. And then, in episode 5... they suddenly decide Al will be lonely or something, so they fuel up their ship with dangerously incompatible gas from a downed enemy fighter and chase down the Silvana. When they catch up to it, they try to land on the battleship without permission, and continue doing so after it starts shooting at them. Eventually they crash-land on the battleship, get beaten up by the crew, and continue trying to find Al... for some reason. It's all very reckless and out-of-character, and probably only happened for the sake of plot advancement and an exciting action sequence, killing two birds with one dead parrot.
  • In Death Note, to some, the defeat of Kira in the manga and anime was enabled by Light and Mikami not taking precautions that they would otherwise have done. In the manga, Matsuda theorizes that Mikami's failure to take said precautions was the result of Near writing his name in the Death Note, restricting his actions in order to enable Light's conviction, especially seeing as Mikami mysteriously died in prison ten days later. The anime doesn't include Matsuda's theory and Mikami commits suicide on the spot, so no influence from the Death Note is implied, making it seem like quite the Contrived Coincidence.
    • The second arc in general is full of wallbangers. The canon reasoning by which Mello and Near learn that Kira kills via magical notebook is that just some random cop overheard Higuchi say it was a notebook. Higuchi, who at that point was ranting and raving and talking to himself like a lunatic. Also it somehow took them five years to come to this conclusion.
    • The missile Mello fired was apparently something the mob had. As to where they got the resources, equipment, training and ability to covertly install a missile silo that's a very good question (as is why they ever felt the need to have one).
    • Mello's injuries. He survives blowing up his base and only comes away with just a scar on his face. But the wallbanger here is that his face was the only thing (sort of) protected!
      • The task force says he may have managed to survive if he hid behind a desk. One problem. Mello is shown just before setting off the explosives, standing in the middle of the room, unprotected save for the mask. And the task force members are all there to see it!
  • The Second Movie of Keroro Gunsou. Where's The real "Deep Sea Princess"? It's was actually Natsumi Hinata all along wearing a "Deep Sea Princess" gown with a Bare Your Midriff aspect.
  • Sukisho: Shinichirou and Nanami leaving Sunao behind and rescuing Sora when they saw how Sunao was to weak to continue. This despite both of the children being in a starved state and exhausted.
  • Chobits: ... Does ''anybody'' know just what the hell happened in the anime ending? Did all the persocoms gain sentience or something? I mean, Chi's OS was deleted. The fact that she was able to respond to command, talk less of walking is a technological miracle, as far as computers go. Justified in that the manager only killed off Freya's OS, but the whole Tear Jerker up to the point that Chi was "revived" was that she was being wiped.
    • And who were the two agent persocoms? Their motives are barely delved into— there was no reason given for their actions. Were they some sort of contingency plan in case the remaining Chobit started acting up? And why do they seem more human than persocom? Are they hybrids between persocoms and humans?
    • At the end of Chobits, despite everything that's happened in the series, it's revealed that Persocoms were never sentient and they never can be, meaning that Chii's behavior and personality are essentially fake, and making the whole series a Shoot the Shaggy Dog story. Also, the authors make a blatant Ass Pull to dump even more misfortune on Hideki by making it so that if he ever tries having sex with Chii, her memories would automatically reset.
  • Smile Pre Cure. OK, so Yayoi tells Miyuki that she's going to be transferring schools, and Miyuki tells the others. The thing is, this happened on the 1st of April... April Fools' Day. Are we seriously supposed to believe that NOBODY remembers what day it is, and NOBODY realizes Yayoi was telling a lie?!
  • Eureka Seven AO was already a muddled, incoherent series. But somehow, the ending was actually worse. The fate of Ao's sister? Writer Cop Out at its finest. The twist that Ao can't survive in the original Eureka Seven world because of high trapar levels? Ludicrous, especially since the show gave no indication of trapar affecting Ao at all. The fact that the Scub are the bad guys? Did they even watch the original series? Did they even watch just the ending of the original series? And finally, we don't get to see what happened to the cast in the new timeline, except for the fact the Okinawa has independence. You know, the plot that was basically abandoned about a quarter of the way into the series and the one that the viewers cared about the least. Yes, show what happened there, and not what happened to the co-pilots. Or even Naru. Seriously, what were they thinking?
  • Ginga Densetsu Weed ends with Weed beating the Big Bad, Hougen, in a glorious final battle that almost managed to be the titular hero's last. As Weed appears too exhausted, his father, Gin, decides to finish the job himself and prepares to finish Hougen for good. But then Weed tackles his father to get him away from Hougen and breaks into an Anvilicious sermon about Thou Shalt Not Kill and If You Kill Him, You Will Be Just Like Him, at the end of which the other dogs kneel down before him and Gin pretty much admits that his son has surpassed him. After all this is said than done, they realize that Hougen is nowhere to be seen. They then see that he has somehow managed to climb on top of the giant stone-pile-that's-supposed-to-be-a-fortress, laughs and threatens to kill everyone present. And then a freaking lightning bolt strikes him, conveniently sparing Weed the burden of just having created a Broken Aesop that could have ended up with more innocent dogs getting murdered. Part of what makes it so cringe-worthy is that the author seems to go to extreme lengths to make it clear that Hougen is absolute scum-of-the-earth that the viewers just want to see burn in the fires of Hell. Calling him a Bad Boss would be generous, he pretty much plays a 24/7 game of Doggy Soccer, he considers females nothing but baby-making machines (and he doesn't give a damn about whether they want it or not, either) and he essentially tortured John, one of the most popular characters of the previous series, to death. There's a difference between forgiveness and idiocy, Weed!
  • Sword Art Online, Kirito have a casual conversation with Akihiko Kayaba. Note this is after the events of Sword Art Online. Also in the ALO arc, they somehow tried to make Nobuyuki Sugō worse than the guy who was responsible for 3,853 deaths. Sure, Nobuyuki is an irredeemable asshole but still.
    • Speaking of Nobuyuki, why didn't Kirito just tell the police? He could've easily just said, "Hey, you remember that guy that kidnapped all those people with his video game? Well there's another guy doing something similar to that and he plans on forcing a girl to marry him with it. He literally just confessed it to me."
    • Episode 14 (the climax of the Aincrad Online arc) is, inarguably, one of the biggest fuck-yous to anyone who was expecting a coherent climax. In the last minutes of the first arc, Asuna breaks out of paralysis to take a sword (killing her), Kirito brings himself back from the dead to stab the main villain, both of them end up still alive and able to log-out of the game. None of this is explained at any point.
  • Kotoura-san, an absolutely enjoyable series, where you can easily sympathize with the main character, and smile everytime things turn out for the better after the utter hell she went through until the present time. But one particular time in the anime stands out. At the last episode, when Kotoura's mother, Kumiko, shows up at her apartment, and after a pillow fight, she falls asleep and Kotoura listens to her mumbling "Forgive me... Kotoura.". Mind you, this is after Kumiko tried to "cure" Kotoura, to the point of thinking she had a demon possessing her because of Kotoura's mind reading powers, which she can't control, shifting all the blame on Kotoura when she blurts out about both of her parents' affairs, in the manga, planning to get Kotoura to a mental ward, and disowning her at the end, complete with the line "I should never have given birth to you.". After that, when Kotoura reads her mother's mind while she's sleeping, she sees her mother in tears thinking "Forgive me for being such a weak mother!"... which reveals that Kumiko regrets deeply the way she handled things... and Kotoura starts saying she should have seen the surface and tried to understand her mother... right after she said she should never have given birth to her. So yeah, it's pretty easy to read your mother's thoughts after she basically disowned you and sent you for your first trip over the Despair Event Horizon,isn't it? The moment itself is still absolutely heartwarming, but the way Kotoura reacts to that discovery in the anime really hurts the mood.
  • Bradley/Pride's defeat in Fullmetal Alchemist. He could have easily avoided his death if he just didn't give Selim the key to his skull. I can understand that he couldn't tell him he's a Homunculus, but why even give him the key in the first place? Okay, there's Hoist by His Own Petard, and then there's just getting tossed the Idiot Ball for the sake of plot convenience.
  • The Sonic X episode, "A Date To Forget", certainly qualifies. Basically, Amy gets angry because Sonic forgets their date they were supposed to go on, so she decides to hang out with Sam Speed for the rest of the day instead, since Sam was supposed to race Sonic at that same day. The moment that infuriated me the most was at the end of the episode when Sonic arrives on the beach, and stands in front of Amy, implying that he wants to date her, and then he ignores her and goes to Sam Speed instead to race him. What a mean-spirited ending indeed. Amy did not deserve that.
  • The last volume of Angelic Layer because of the way Misaki's mother, Shuuko, was portrayed. Does she have a reason for not letting Misaki get involved in her career? Nope... ''she's chronically shy''. Yep, she essentially abandoned her child, didn't even try to get in contact with her, and even ran away while her daughter chased her because she's shy. And it's supposed to be cute, and Misaki's instantly forgiving her behavior without even demanding a further explanation for her disappearance from her life until this is supposed to be equally cute; but it makes for a horrible mother.
  • The entirety of Transformers Kiss Players is ridiculous, but especially egregious is Ravag... er, sorry, "Black Panther Man" and his story. One of the most fanatical and loyal members of the Decepticon cause, so much so that he willingly attempted to alter history not once but twice to bring the faction out on top, and a vicious and serious Badass... gathering the history of the entire Transformer race to create a future "free of unnecessary conflict" with a smile and a hug. Yeah...
  • Hellsing with how The Major is a cyborg... that was built in the 1940s? Yes, Hirano needed a way to explain his longevity without his being a vampire, but that's pushing it. The series has plenty of magic and magitek elements that could have offered a more reasonable explanation.
    • Walter's betrayal. No foreshadowing, ridiculously flimsy logic (are we honestly supposed to believe that the man who proudly boasted of his age and experience was willing to betray the woman he practically raised himself, and all of humanity, just to be young again?), it completely derailed Walter's character, and ultimately served no purpose but to pad out the finale.
  • Devilman contains the single most inane Ass Pull of all time in the end. It turns out that Ryo Asuka, Akira's heterosexual life partner, is a hermaphrodite. He's also Satan, and he's in love with Akira. They have hot steamy sex, Akira dies, and the series ends... yeah. Never mind that everything weird that happened before was a Fridge Logic expansion of the previous events, which usually avoided major asspulling.
    • In the manga? There's also the part where they beat the crap out of each other with that whole final battle between demons and devilmen and Satan kills Akira.
  • Silent Sinner in Blue, chapter fifteen: Marisa has cornered Yorihime with an epic Beam Spam attack. Out of the blue, Yorihime, looking duly unimpressed, picks up one of the star-shaped pieces and eats it like a cookie. This would be somewhat amusing until you learn that in the Touhou universe, if you're hit by a bullet in any way, shape or form, you lose the duel. Yorihime should have lost then and there. So what does she go on to do? She deflects all of Marisa's subsequent attacks and summons the power of a GODDESS, completely beating Marisa with no semblance of fair play at all.
  • School Rumble's abrupt abortion at chapter 283 sparked a universal "WHAT THE HELL?!" from almost every fan of the manga.
  • From the second half of Houshin Engi:
    1. Killing off nearly the entire cast, including the characters that had depth.
    2. Suffering from Shonen Hero Syndrome so much that the only good guy who got any screentime was the insanely generic hero himself.
    3. Stopped basing it off a Chinese legend and went off on some sci-fi bent for no apparent reason other than Akira Toriyama did it, forgetting that Dragon Ball just included some names from Journey to the West, while Houshin Engi had tried to adapt the actual legend.
    4. Failing to finish other plotlines, like the main villain having possessed someone or the poor girl's family joining the good guys' side.
  • Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle / xxxHolic: After all the Mind Screwing was just starting to be explained and make sense, CLAMP nailed the fanbase with a massive time-paradox curve-ball that had masses screaming. Five words: The clones are Syaoran's parents. What. The. Hell.
    • Since the clones were reincarnated as Real!Syaoran's parents, that can just mean they only look like Syaoran and Sakura, but are genetically different enough to provide Real!Syaoran's genes.
    • Wait, this isn't a Stable Time Loop?
      • Well, it was until Yuuko died (chose to die?) and both sets of Syaorans and Sakuras decided they'd had enough.
      • The epilogue tells us that during the final fight, reality (and the Stable Time Loop) was broken so much that the clones no longer exist, but real!Syaoran does. Nevertheless, they're still his parents. On top of that, Sakura and Syaoran want to find a way to bring the clones back, since it's been established that created beings don't "die" — they just need a vessel for their still-present souls, since CLAMP still has that whole no Back from the Dead rule. Still confusing.
    • Even worse, the ending of xxxHolic involves Watanuki just sitting around the shop for over a CENTURY waiting for Yuuko to return. This is despite Yuuko's pleas for Watanuki to just let go of his obsession with her and live his own life. Himawari manages marry a guy who's conveniently immune to her negative aura with no explanation given whatsoever, and Doumeki is given opportunity to help Watanuki forget about Yuuko, but is too indecisive and palms the responsibility off to his descendants, who are as indecisive as he is. In the end, the manga straight up tells the reader that Watanuki never sees Yuuko again, dooming him to wait for eternity. If that's not the most rage inducing Downer Ending ever, I don't know what is.
      • The biggest wallbanger here is just how abrupt it feels. Reading the series as a whole and then getting to the ending you just get the feeling that the author/s just woke up one day and said, "You know what? I really can't be bothered to write any more of this series. So here's the last chapter, such and such happens. The end." Imagine if you're reading Dragonball, you get up to the Cell Saga, you finish the chapter where Gohan is about to step up against Cell, and then the next chapter after that is the last chapter of the entire series where the gang are sitting in the kitchen explaining that Gohan beats Cell and Goku is dead. Life goes on. The end.
      • An addendum, think about this: xxxHolic and Tsubasa were supposed to have been companion/sister series, right? I took this to mean that the series would share some similar/ identical plot threads and that events from one series would have direct/indirect consequences for the other. With the way Tsubasa ended, I came to figure that xxxHolic would now need to pickup and resolve the story threads left by Tsubasa as well as its own story threads and arc. Then xxxHolic "ended" the way it did. All of this aforementioned is all the more reason to be frustrated with xxxHolic's "ending" and it ending up in the same Indefinite Hiatus state as X/1999.
      • Even worse, effectively the xxxHolic series was completely pointless. Beyond vague hints that were thrown in once every few dozen chapters and an incomprehensible ending, it had no connection to Tsubasa. CLAMP could have just put Yuuko and Watanuki in Tsubasa and saved the readers a good deal of money.
  • A shojo manga called Papillion Hana To Cho had a big one: Wallflower Ageha has discovered a tiny bit of confidence and has secretly hooked up with her handsome school counselor. Her Evil Twin Hana won't be having any of that and so, when Ageha gets sick, she comes to school disguised as her sister, abuses the counselor's credit card, and generally acts Out of Character. The next day, the counselor breaks up with Ageha because he can't stand her anymore. Yes, a psychology student who has been been talking to a girl for weeks doesn't think it strange when she acts completely different and then "snaps back" the next day. They're twin sisters, not Cylons! On top of all that, Ageha is told to suck it up and not be so emotional (by the counselor's mentor!), and so she doesn't confront him on why they broke up. Of course, they shouldn't have been together in the first place, which only adds to the Poor Communication Kills.
  • There's a one-shot yaoi manga, "Pet on Duty", about a spineless jellyfish of a human named Mizuki. He feels that he's a burden to everyone, and he can't hold down a job. Never mind that one of his employers fired Mizuki for being slightly late on the first two days of the job for reasons beyond his control (he's living somewhere he shouldn't be, a company dorm, and can't be seen). Just look at the ending: it seems that Mizuki is finally becoming independent, or at least stronger; but when it comes time to confess his love to the older seme? "Please take care of me forever!" He just snapped back to, more or less, his old self, for no reason but to get the two together. Now, keep in mind that "pet" is their term for "housewife"...
  • The five-volume story Seinei (Baptism of Blood) by Kazuo Umezu (of Drifting Classroom fame). A nice premise: aging movie star has her brain transplanted to her young daughter, so she can re-experience youth and find the happiness she thinks has been denied from her. If the gory operation does not leave you speechless, what follows will: the daughter's class-teacher actively encourages his preteen, grade-school girls to have nuptial fantasies about himself. And he is married. The sexual-harassment laws in Japan must be ripe for a revision. Naturally our body-swapped protagonist wants the hunk for her own, but the wife is no push-over. As they try to outsmart each other, you'll forget the egregious plot to enjoy the cold-blood tortures. Umezu's "twist ending" is the epitome of a wall-banger: there has never been any brain transplant; the girl is just being herself all along — yeah, we are talking about a twelve-year-old who knows her mother's childhood in minute details and who can paralyze people with acupuncture needles. In the final frames Umezu even has the audacity to pull a Space Whale Aesop (something about being the only sane person in a mad world). Face Palm.
  • There's Honor Before Reason, and then there's the aftermath of Katsumi's loss to Pickle in Baki the Grappler. Like he did against Retsu, Pickle decides to eat part of Katsumi after winning. But instead of stopping at one leg, he's going to eat Katsumi's hands and feet, leaving him a quadriplegic. And Doppo—Katsumi's father, mind you—is okay with this, along with all of Katsumi's students, to the point where they form a human wall around Pickle to stop him from being tranqed. Doppo explains that Pickle believes that by eating part of his prey, he can gain their strength, which is why he only hunted the mightiest dinosaurs in the prehistoric era, and eating parts of his opponents is his way of paying tribute to them. First off, how does Doppo know all this? It's not like Pickle's capable of speech. Second, that doesn't really work! Eating a surgeon's hands won't give you surgical skills... but it will deprive said surgeon of the ability to perform their job and leave them a useless cripple, like what's happening to Katsumi. Sure, Pickle doesn't know that... but you do, Doppo! He'll never perform martial arts again, which means he can no longer train students, and spend the rest of his days requiring at-home care for the simplest tasks that we take for granted because we still have limbs. What a tremendous honor! I'm sure Katsumi's heart will swell with pride every time his caregiver wipes his ass for him. Turn in your Cool Old Guy license, Doppo.
    • Then there's Yujiroh's goddamn Villain Sue status. The manga's gone on for more than twenty years, and Baki still can't beat him in a fight. What makes this especially be a wallbanger is that Baki's most recent fight with Yujiroh was built up into something important, to the point that Baki said there was nobody left he had to fight. But nope, Baki still loses, story still goes on long after it should have ended.
  • In Hunter × Hunter, Gon out of nowhere turns into a badly-drawn Fist of the North Star character with hair a mile long and kills Pitou. It's even worse than it sounds: the anatomy on display in this sequence is nothing short of horrendous, the fight scene terrible, the dialogue comically hammy and melodramatic. And worst of all, the revelation that kicked this whole thing off was something blindingly obvious.
  • In the Magical Record Lyrical Nanoha Force manga, they introduced a new character whose first act is soundly defeat Signum in a way that invokes the possibility that she might DIE (she barely survives tough). This mirrors the Wall Banger in Super Robot Wars about a newcomer character killing Lamia Loveless (the character Signum is Expying); that the writer chose to replicate or invoke it in the original work even knowing the consequences. (Word Of God said he's a fan of Super Robot Wars) is a Wall Banger on its own.
  • Any project based on Mahou Sensei Negima! is pretty much cursed to have a bad ending, but the one that completely upset the fans the most was the actual ending to the original manga. The manga had just finished up the Magic World arc with the revelation that the Big Bad has taken over the body of Nagi Springfield, the father of main character Negi Springfield, and it looked like things were being set up for a final arc involving a showdown between Negi and his students vs. his father and the members of Cosmo Entelecheia. Unfortunately, rather than setting up and showcasing this epic final battle (as well as solve various loose plot threads that were still hanging), Ken Akamatsu instead does the following: reverts back to the Unwanted Harem days of the early volumes, with it culminating in a pointless Character Derailment-filled storyline where Negi's students gang up on him thanks to the jealously of one of the cheerleaders; does a time skip to graduation, resulting in a whole bunch of character development and storylines being condensed to just notes in Negi's copy of the class roster; and only hints about the events of Negi defeating the Lifemaker and rescuing Nagi in the final chapter (when after another time skip, some of Negi's students, who are now young adults, meet Nagi for the first time). It also doesn't help things that the final "major" storyline somewhat rehashes the Xebec ending, in which something bad happens to Asuna (in the case of the manga, she's sealed away and wakes up 130 years in the future), with her situation being solved thanks to the use of time travel.
    • This Character Derailment arc needs some expansion because it too is a wallbanger for just how far out of character it took some of the girls. After finding out that Negi likes someone, 3-A decide to find out who it is/ get a straight answer to their own feelings. Fair enough, some even stick to this goal. Some however absolutely lose their fucking minds. Culminating in a scene where they have Negi cornered, and proceed to stick several foreign objects in his ass fitting both the literal definition of rape on top of Mind Rape. Despite Nodoka and her painless mind-reading being there, they choose to brainwash and force the feelings from his own mouth by sticking something up his ass. Just to reiterate: an 11-year-old has been corned by several people 4 years their senior of the opposite gender in an alley, and been forcibly injected anally with two mind-altering substances that leave them more or less completely helpless to their whims. Several of the characters directly involved in this have been consistently characterized as nice girls who generally care about Negi (Kaede, and Setsuna in particular), and he still has to desperately fight off brainwashing thrice before even two decide that this situation is messed up. Eventually it's resolved with the girls realizing they're in the wrong, but the manga doesn't present them as nearly wrong enough, nor in line with their characterization to avoid being a wallbanger.
    • As for the whole Negi's father Wall Banger, it's even worse when you realize that Negi finding his father was the Myth Arc of the manga. That's right. Akamatsu concluded the Myth Arc entirely within the confines of a regular-sized last chapter, after a time skip.
      • Unfortunately, this was all due to Akamatsu's publishers trying to take the entire series' copyright from him. He either had to end his series or lose all rights to it.
      • While the readers can understand Negima ending early due to this reason (especially given how the end of the manga coincided with the end of Akamatsu's contract of writing exclusively for Kodansha), given how he knew how many chapters there was left in Negima, Ken Akamatsu should have been able to do the following:
      1. Decide which major story is more important (either revealing which student Negi likes or resolving the Lifemaker situation) rather than trying to cover both with disastrous results (a lot of buildup in terms of who Negi likes with no actual reveal at all; the final battle with the Lifemaker turning out to be an off-camera event).
      2. Use this time to resolve some of the mysteries that readers were interested in (i.e. Ako's scar, the nature of Zazie) rather than throw all the development that most of the students received in the story out the window in order to do a storyline that feels like something out of his previous work, Love Hina, than a Negima storyline.
      • Him having to end the series or lose the copyright has never been officially stated, it's just fan speculation based on some vague statements about Akamatsu and Kodansha having an unspecified fallout. Regardless, now Akamatsu has said he's working with Kodansha again, so presumably any situation that doesn't have him fixing the Negima end can be chalked up to him not wanting to (he has said Kodansha itself wouldn't want to kill the golden eggs franchise).
  • In Case Closed's Moonlight Sonata case, the initial assumption is that the killer must have been a man, because he was strong enough to move the first victim's body. This supposedly eliminates Narumi Asai, a petite woman, from the list of suspects. However, it is eventually revealed that Narumi is actually a man in disguise. This is the final proof that he is the killer, even though he still doesn't have enough muscle to move the body. Sexism doesn't make a good basis for a murder mystery.
    • The basic point is actually Truth in Television to an extent: women with enough strength to lift a full-grown adult (120lbs-183lbs, 54kg-83kg) are rare. This doesn't make it any better in context, though, since it actually is a significant weight, awkwardly shaped, and one most people have trouble lifting.
  • Sora no Otoshimono was never thought to ever have a development that deserved mention here, having a solid story with solid characters while somehow managing to show Fanservice in a way that doesn't distract from the serious parts of the plot, but was it really necessary to make Chaos go through Break the Cutie for the fourth time as of Chapter 71? It's bad enough that the chapter before, she already had her 3rd one after Hiyori impales herself on her wings to make Chaos understand killing is bad and Chaos fully realizes how wrong she's been, another unnecessary moment in itself considering it really did seem like things were going to be finally ok for Chaos after Hiyori notices how mentally damaged she is and gives her a Cooldown Hug. Both moments are still major Tear Jerker scenes, but seem really mean spirited by both killing off a likeable character unnecessarily, further traumatizing a girl that already went past the Despair Event Horizon, and unnecessarily adding more drama to a plot that is already nearing its climax.
  • The basis of the plot in Bunny Drop is that Rin and Daikichi are aunt and uncle, even though Rin is thirty years Daikichi's junior. And then it's revealed they aren't related after all, thereby discarding everything the series is built on. Worse, this is done to allow them to marry, even though none of the readers wanted it to happen. It's hard to argue something's not a wall banger when it retroactively renders most of the series utterly pointless. Not to mention it opens up a gaping Fridge Logic hole - why didn't Rin's mother ever mention who Rin's real father was when Daikichi met her?
  • Madotsuki being allowed to speak in the manga adaptation of Yume Nikki. Not only is this unfaithful to her videogame counterpart (when she didn't even have many established character traits to begin with), but most of what she says are things the readers can decipher for themselves. The adaptation would fare far better as a silent comic.
  • Many consider this the case with Yuji's Face-Heel Turn in the anime adaptation of Shakugan no Shana, and find it hard to accept him even after Shana redeems him. It had little to no foreshadowing leading up to the event, plus the fact that it was so sudden.
  • Mink has many a wallbanger, but here are a few:
    • When Cyber Idol Mink is being interviewed on TV, the host, pop star Azumi is jealous of her success and tries to make her look bad. So she constantly stops following the script, and instead she tries to subtly embarrass Mink by asking why Mink didn't eat the lunch the TV crew made for her and implying Mink is a picky eater, and later says that Mink is going to sing one of Azumi's songs (even though that was not the plan at all). Logically, Azumi would have gotten i trouble for this, but nobody tells her a single thing about it being inappropriate. Sure, Azumi's dad is very influential, but we never see any signs that her getting out of trouble is thanks to him, and at this point her dad hadn't even been mentioned in the comic anyway.
    • At a press conference where Mink's role in a new TV drama is announced, a journalist we're supposed to dislike asks who Mink's boyfriend will be in the drama. This is supposed to be seen as a rude question, and Mink tells him that as a matter of fact, she doesn't know who it is, so there! But what's so wrong about wanting to know who'll play one of the main characters? And why would you proudly announce that you don't know the name of your co-star?
  • The Yakitate!!25 arc of Yakitate Japan started off good, promising the best opportunity for Azuma to finally perfect his Ja-Pan, but then goes downhill after the first few stages. Aside from the "creating new Japanese-style breads to fit the tastes of various prefectures" theme being forgotten in later stages in favor of a standard duel plots of "make the coolest bread ever", the judging "reactions" becomes increasingly silly/unrealistic, having Kawachi and Kuroyanagi flanderized into joke characters, and finally having the whole setting evolve from a comedic Slice of Life manga about bread-making into a weird fantasy plot about defeating the Human-bread monsters trying to take over the world...
  • The Judgment Gate in Ah! My Goddess The Movie, creates a situation that spans Designated Villain, Wallbanger, and Idiot Plot. The plot of the whole movie is that Celestin, an agent of Heaven in the AMGverse, has decided to war against the heavens, because of his belief that God purposesfully causes suffering. His proof: the Judgment Gate, a gate that two lovers from different realms walk through in order to test their love. In theory, the gate does nothing to people who are truly in love, but it separates people who aren't truly in love, forever. In practice, Celestin notes that no one who has walked through the gate has passed the test. It should be noted that while Celestin is playing the role of rebellious angel in this story, nothing in the narrative suggests that he is the typical Unreliable Narrator ala Lucifer, and no one in Heaven, including AMG!God himself, disputes that Celestin is telling the truth about the Judgment Gate. After the climax of the movie, Keiichi and Belldandy are put before the Judgment Gate, to test their love. They pass through, at which point Celestin acknowledges that he may have been wrong about the gate, and he and everyone else only failed the test because their love wasn't strong enough. Problems:
  • The manga series Alice 101st takes place in France, and all the characters are speaking French (as people in France tend to do). The main character, Aristide, is often called "Alice" since in the original Japanese, the first two syllables of "Aristide" sound like "Alice." Obviously, this doesn't make sense — even the Japanese readers must have understood that to the French, it would be impossible to mix up L and R the way Japanese people might do.
  • Ousama Game ends with the revelation that the Ou-sama that's been causing everyone's deaths is actually a sentient computer virus that is haunting the main character's girlfriend and all of its deaths were actually Your Mind Makes It Real. This works for some of them, but stops making sense at some point in the story, because some of the deaths, like being cut apart and in half by absolutely nothing, are clearly things that even this cannot do. Even one of the more sensible punishments, where one student is punished with blindness, falls apart when you realize it blinded her before she got a chance to read the message. How can her mind force a suggestion that she doesn't know about?
    • The story also has a serious case of Idiot Plot, some of it forgivable, some of it not. Forgivable in some cases because the characters pretty clearly have no idea what's going on; not in some cases where they do really stupid things like try and block the Ou-sama's texts after it becomes clear that they'd be killed for doing so. The worst of it goes to Ria, who throughout the story clearly has figured out more about the Ou-sama than anyone else, but still goes out of her way to be dickish and unhelpful for no particular reason aside from wanting to be the one to beat it. Even at the end, when there's only ten students left including herself, she hides the information until the order killing off all but herself and the main couple is over. Even worse, she's completely figured out that the virus kills with Your Mind Makes It Real but still manages to be killed by it anyway.
    • The ending itself just felt like a cheap emotional sucker punch. Everyone except Nobuaki and Chiemi is dead and they manage to survive by defying the power of suggestion. Then she dies from a knife wound she suffered earlier and all Nobuaki can do is pretend none of it ever happened. It just made the entire story feel like a waste of time.


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