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Parvos Granum, now ready to take on the mainstream Corpus with his new army of followers, will ask the Tenno to help him in his fight against the Corpus. Ergo will assist the Corpus of Glast while Frodh Bek who survived the assasination attempt during the Ambulas boss fight, will send his army to fight back against Parvos while Nef and Alad have their own agendas during the whole battle for the leadership of the Corpus.

[[WMG: There will be a quest in the future where all Corpus-related characters fight]]

Specifically, a K-Drive pro-skater. That's how she got acquianted with Yareli. That would also make her neither scientist, nor warrior, as the Son attests. Also, having to work for living and having little holding of her own would make her less of an oppressor, enough for [[spoiler:Dagath to spare her.]]

From what we’ve seen of the teaser, the monsters share a combination of technological (thanks to the computers and wires seen strewn about) and organic (thanks to all the MeatMoss connecting the computers together), and they share animations with the Infested Runners and Ancients. Now, the Technocyte Plague is called that for a reason, being able to corrupt technology as seen with Jordas and the Mutalist enemies. Yet the monsters seem more overtly technological, in contrast to the organic growths of the modern Infested. Added with the man in the Excalibur suit, Arthur, one poster in the area having a man resembling Dr. Metzger, and his ally Aoi possibly performing Mag’s Polarize, it’s highly likely that the 1999 in the trailer is around an alternate version of the events that took place during the original Technocyte Plague outbreak.

* Wrong. Only Umbral frames are real people infected with the Helminth Strain.

Drusus notes a sort of recognition in one of his salvaged images for Voruna's Leverian, and in the other, she's cradling the child as she returns to her ship. We know that it's difficult for Operators to walk or perform Transference right out of stasis, and that Tuvul had to keep this secret, so it can't have been a normal Yuvan, but Lua also has the Reservoir; a whole facility of Tenno, ripe in stasis. If Voruna's Operator was to be Tuvul's impromptu Yuvan, he may have been trying to turn Voruna against the other Tenno.

[[WMG:Lotus' mission was [[spoiler:to turn the Tenno against the Orokin]].]]
With the revelation that [[spoiler:Lotus is a rogue Sentient]], the nature of her "mission" is obvious. If the "last sequence" she refused to perform was [[spoiler:to destroy the Tenno]], the first stages of it were clearly to [[spoiler:subvert the Tenno and use them to destroy their masters, as recounted in the Stalker's testimony]]. The Tenno were invincible in battle and defeated the Sentient invasion (despite taking casualties such as Mirage) so [[spoiler:the only way the Sentients could win was to subvert them. Lotus was meant to destroy them after using them to destroy the Orokin, making their victory complete, but she refused, preferring to keep them for herself as her children.]]
* [[spoiler:Confirmed.]]

* Jossed. They are [[spoiler: puppets made of infested flesh, remote-controlled by Void-touched Operators.]]

** [[spoiler: Confirmed as of Echoes of the Sentients and the Natah Quest - she's a rogue Sentient.]]

** [[spoiler: Jossed as of Echoes of the Sentients and the Natah Quest - she's a rogue Sentient.]]

** [[spoiler: Jossed as of Echoes of the Sentients and the Natah Quest - she's a rogue Sentient, and the Sentient hive mind scares the shit out of her.]]

* [[spoiler:Possibly {{Jossed}}, and yet at the same time possibly ''Confirmed'' by 'The Second Dream'. The story reveals that the 'Tenno' are not within the Warframes at all, the Warframes are just puppets or empty shells controlled by the Tenno from a distance using a Somatic Link, and supposedly not alive at all. However, at the climax of 'The Second Dream', the Tenno Operator dangles helplessly from the Stalker's hand after their Warframe is impaled by the War sword that contains the Sentient Hunhow, but just before the Stalker can kill the player, the Warframe seems to come to life on its own and tear the sword apart, forcing the Stalker to flee. So while the Warframes don't contain the Tenno, they ''may'' yet still be alive in their own right. Rhino Prime's Codex entry also hints that the suit may contain some kind of living organism.]]
** Supported somewhat by some of [[spoiler:the Queens' dialogue]] in the War Within. They refer to the Warframe that you are using as [[spoiler:"[the child's] Infested puppet indicating that the Warframes may be similar to the Infested]] which will likely lead into the lore for the Infested door on the ship and the upcoming Infested Warframe.
* Warframes can be seen bleeding in combat, especially when suffering from slash damage, and during the Second Dream [[spoiler: your Warframe bleeds from its stab wound]]. Also, while the Jackal taunts you, it states that you are an "organic threat", so it is likely.
* Technically confirmed. The warframes indeed have an organic component, [[spoiler: which is an infested core controlled by the Operator.]]

* This one's really iffy. The Corpus are descended from the Orokin that survived the massacre by the Tenno, but they've lost much of their former culture and technology in the process. Meanwhile, the Second Dream reveals that [[spoiler:the Tenno are Orokin teenagers who were passengers on a ship that had an accident in the Void. They've been in cryosleep since the Old War, remotely piloting the Warframes to channel their powers while in hibernation. While Stalker's nature is still ambiguous, it seems likely that this is the case for him, too; in any case, he's definitely not of Sentient origin, although he does ally with them during the quest.]]

* Confirmed, in a different way. [[spoiler: after Apostasy Prologue and specifically in The Sacrifice, the Lotus isn't the same Lotus as we knew it. Since Apostasy Prologue, the "Lotus" is merely Ordis posing as Lotus to comfort the Operator.]]
** Zigzagged again.[[spoiler: As of The New War, Lotus/Margulis/Natah is back in control of our in-mission communications, but we can choose which of her incarnations (Lotus, Natah, Margulis, Eidolon, Radiant) we wish to have in our ear, and thus what faction (Orokin, Sentients, Tenno, Eidolon) we want her to be.]]

* As of the Natah quest, [[spoiler:Jossed. The Lotus we know today is the same Lotus who led us during the Old War - and the same Lotus sent by the Sentients to destroy the Orokin and the Tenno.]]

* [[spoiler: Cephalon Simaris lore confirms that the Orokin absolutely had it coming, and that Lotus was not only not one of them, but in large part responsible for wrecking their shit.]]
* As for the Lotus [[spoiler: she's a Sentient who defected to defending the Tenno]] so she's arguable the only non-evil character in the setting.

** [[spoiler: Turns out the Sentients were terraforming AIs who were only trying to help, while the Orokin were definitely evil.]]
** [[spoiler:The Sentients weren't human, but it seems the Orokin were. The Corpus formed out of the remnants of the Orokin Empire, and the Sentient Hunhow mistook Alad V for an Orokin.]]

* Most likely {{Jossed}}. The developers have decided that ''VideoGame/DarkSector'' is no longer canon, as the lore discrepancies have grown too large. The Second Dream in particular is pretty destructive towards this theory; [[spoiler:the Tenno are officially named for the Zariman Ten-Zero incident, which gave them their powers, and they've been remotely piloting the Warframes all along, rather than wearing them as a suit. While it's still not clear what Stalker's deal is, he's more than likely similar to the Tenno.]]

* Jossed, not to mention impossible, as [[spoiler: the Tenno are mot wearing the suits in the traditional sense, thus he couldn't have built one.]] More importantly, the Stalker's codex entry also contradicts this.

** [[spoiler: Nope, just AI's.]]

* Possibly, because when you scan all of the Kurias [[spoiler: you get a poem about the twin queens that implies that they are/were Orokin.]]
* Jossed by War Within: the Twin Queens [[spoiler:are Orokin who have been playing GrandTheftMe to survive for centuries, and since Grineer bodies are inferior, they want your human body.]]

* [[spoiler: Confirmed in part by Corrupted Ancient Synthesis entry.]]

[[WMG: Within the Warframes are [[spoiler:homunculi grown from infested tissue]]]]
Both Lephantis and the Jordas Golem repeatedly insist that the Tenno are "our flesh" and "the same" as the infested. With the reveal that [[spoiler:the Warframes are puppets remote-controlled by the Tenno from afar, yet still somehow alive as seen when your Warframe acts independently to save you from the Stalker at the climax of The Second Dream]], the obvious conclusion to draw is that [[spoiler:within each Warframe is a vat-grown living body created by the Orokin by shaping cloned flesh infused with the Technocyte virus to give it life]].
* Alternatively, [[spoiler:there's no "inside" - the whole ''Warframe'' is this, all the way through.]]
* Either way, [[spoiler:they are the same stuff, the same nanite-infused cyborg flesh, in the sense that an elegant table of saw-cut, sanded and polished wood, designed as an aesthetic and functional whole, and one made by nailing found sticks and lumber together, by someone who's heard of tables but never seen one, are the same.]]
* Seemingly confirmed by ''The War Within'', with [[spoiler:the young Queen explicitly calling the Warframe an "Infested puppet" controlled by the Zariman child.]]
* [[spoiler:Jossed by ''The Sacrifice''. Warframes are created by infecting Dax soldiers with Infested material, transforming them into the Warframes, with some even retaining memories of their former selves.]]
* [[spoiler:Wrong. Only Umbral frames are real people infected with the Helminth Strain.]]

[[WMG: The first Warframes were PowerArmor, not [[spoiler: remote controlled drones]]]].
In an InUniverse case of TechnologyMarchesOn, the first warframes were [[spoiler: exoskeletons housing the Tenno children]], and due to the Tenno taking fatalities such as [[spoiler: Mirage and Limbo]], switched to [[spoiler: The current model of Warframes, remote controlled drones that are less powerful than the original, but could always be repaired/rebuild, as a Tenno who is killed is gone, but a dead next generation warframe can always be recovered and revived/repaired]]. This explains why [[spoiler: the original Mirage was much, much more powerful than the current version, and why her loss was so catastrophic for the Lotus, as she saw one of her adopted children die, not just the destruction of a weapon that could always have been rebuilt like current Warframes are]].

** Either way, the Power Armor aspect is [[spoiler:very much jossed after ''The Sacrifice''. Warframes are Dax soldiers who were transformed by a special strain the Infestation.]]

[[WMG: The Lotus [[spoiler:[[BrainUploading contains part of Margulis within her]].]]]]
It's not a coincidence that [[spoiler: the two have the same voice and motherly attitude towards the Tenno. Margulis' main contribution to the Orokin war effort was perfecting Transference. "The Silver Grove" reveals that Transference was able to be used for more than just creating a link between Zariman children and the Warframes (Archimedian Silvana used it to become ''a tree'') and it's implied that creatures linked via Transference will pass similar attitudes onto one another (as Silvana felt "an evil ink, staining [her] mind" when piloting Titania, and the rogue Titania later decided to defend [[NatureHero Silvana's]] forest to the death). It's entirely possible that Margulis, rather than put her surrogate children in the line of fire, attempted to take the easy way to win the war and simply use her own invention to [[HijackingCthulhu brain-jack]] the enemy HiveMind, or at least use one unit to infiltrate and destroy their fleet. While she didn't ''completely'' succeed, the one Sentient she linked to, Natah, inherited some of Margulis' personality, particularly her attitude towards the Tenno; this provoked the Sentient to consider that she could no longer bear her own children. Margulis was executed by the Orokin because they didn't approve of the risk she took and the subversion of their plans for the survivors of the Zariman Ten Zero -- or perhaps out of fear she turned over Orokin secrets to the enemy and received some of the Sentients' hostility in return. When Natah broke away from the Sentients, Ballas accepted her into the Orokin ranks because she was all that was left of the love he once knew, and charged her to guide the Tenno, who accepted the aid of the [[ReplacementGoldfish familiar voice.]]]] And of course, when the war ended and the Orokin attempted to [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness dispose of the Tenno]] out of fear they could [[TurnedAgainstTheirMasters turn on their creators]] like ''[[FromBadToWorse everything else]] [[HoistByTheirOwnPetard they made]] [[ProperlyParanoid already had]]'', the Lotus did the motherly thing and turned on the Orokin, warning and convincing the Tenno to [[SelfFulfillingProphecy fight for their lives]].
* This is a beautiful theory, and definitely explains some things that would otherwise seem contradictory. In the War Within, the Lotus talks about how all traces of [[spoiler: the Zariman children]] except for their physical presence was erased, yet somehow she knows enough to answer some of their questions, including some of the revelations that Teshin gives in the War Within. Since the Lotus is [[spoiler: a Sentient A.I.]] there's no other way she could have known this information, since without digital records, the information does not exist to her.
* [[spoiler: Jossed. The Lotus is only using Margulis's appearance to convince the Tenno to trust her, but is not actually related to Margulis in any way.]]
** [[spoiler: Perhaps not, if the Apostasy Prologue is anything to go by. Ballas quite specifically calls the Lotus 'Margulis', even when though the Lotus denies it at first, and claims he will not abondon her again. Perhaps the details of this theory will not line up, but its overarching idea may yet hold water.]]

In VideoGame/{{darkSector}}, [[VideoGame/{{darkSector}} Hayden Tenno]] [[spoiler:equips a version of the Excalibur Warframe about ¾ through the story.]] The suit stays on him the rest of the game, and later on, [[spoiler:one of the bosses is Nemesis, which is now a variant skin for Nyx.]] Additionally, Hayden is infected with the Technocyte virus, from which he didn't go insane only because he had congenital analgesia (inability to feel pain). [[spoiler: He never ''did'' get cured, though.]]

On the Warframe side, we know now that the Warframes are [[spoiler: remotely controlled by the Zariman Ten-Zero children.]] However, the suits have been seen to be somewhat sentient, perhaps only applying to instances where the danger to themselves [[spoiler: or their controllers]] is near annihilation-levels, like against [[spoiler: the Stalker in Second Dream.]] We also know that the 'frames have some infested infliction ([[spoiler: Jordas states as much, plus it's much more prevalent with the recent Nindus 'frame and room]]), and finally, that the Orokin were the ones to create them for [[spoiler: the superpowered Zariman children,]] using the Technocyte Virus in some way.

My theory is this: the Warframes aren't empty, no; instead, originally, the Warframes were just that, hollow suits of armor created by the Orokin. But since [[spoiler: the Zariman kids]] couldn't put them on, or they had no way to just switch between them, the Orokin chose a soldier from their ranks, each one having very specific mindsets and abilities, and used the same Mind Control technology they used on [[spoiler: Ordan Karris]] or something similar to essentially make those soldiers "brain dead", creating vegetables that had no conscience of their own, yet leaving their instincts and muscle-memory intact (hence why the frames could react when [[spolier: stabbed by Hunhow's sword]]; the threat of death made them instinctively react and attempt to save themselves). Next, they would outfit the body with a Warframe suit that best fit the abilities of the soldier. And finally, they would inject small doses of the Technocyte Virus (or feed, or however the hell the virus spreads) into the body and the Warframe, with both eventually fusing into a single being that [[spoiler: the Zariman children could control like puppets and whose abilities would be significantly amplified by the Void powers of the children piloting them.]]

In short, the Warframes are a fusion of bodies and armor, the original bodies being powerful soldiers with certain outlooks on life (such as Rhino, Excalibur, Frost, Vauban), or important figures (such as Nyx, who could've been an Orokin psychological expert; Mag, who could've been a famous Orokin engineer; and Valkyr, heavily depending on what her outlook on life and Void Imprint was before being tortured by Alad V). Each of them was rendered brain dead, then fused with a frame that fit their ability, and finally [[spoiler: given to the Zariman children to power up with Transference]], amplifying their instincts and muscle memory to become actual supernatural abilities (except for Vauban, that BadassNormal bastard). [[spoiler: In the case of Nindus, since his blueprint is from an Old War Relic, then perhaps his frame is created by injecting too much of the virus into the body, creating a body more in-tune with the virus itself than whatever the original body was.]]

* This could also give context as to why the Warframes have idle animations fitting for each of them (if it's not just [[spoiler: the Zariman children]] wanting to roleplay): [[spoiler: the Transference ability has been shown to connect the minds of both parties, as shown in The Silver Grove by Silvana saying she felt "an evil ink, staining her mind". When the Zariman children use Transference on the 'frames, the only things left in the Mind of the original bodies are their instincts, muscle memory, and general outlook on life that their powers are based on, and as such, the Zariman children start acting like the originals when transferred in.]]

*** Maybe Frames weren't brain dead to begin with, but ended up that way due to years/decades/centuries of being unused? [[spoiler: Originally they were intended to be companions to the Zariman children, working in tandem as a team.]] But after they were frozen for an untold amount of time, all the frames that were still alive at the moment just sat there, maybe guarding them, maybe doing something on their own. But inevitably, all of them went senile, and lost their minds and memories, with only instincts remaining intact

[[WMG: The Arbiters of Hexis [[spoiler: are a HiveMind]]]]
The leaders of the Arbiters always appear together in transmissions, [[spoiler: where, if you notice, their heads sway in unison, while in Rathuum, they will demand you to bring the location of the defectors to ME (the leader), implying that they possess a single mind.]]

[[WMG: The Sacrifice will give you the choice to [[spoiler: give up the Operator's physical form.]]]]
As Ballas says, "their life... For yours. [[spoiler: However, you give up your body, or your morality as the titular Sacrifice. Perhaps it will be the only way to prevent the Man in the Wall from taking over?]]

* Actually, possible, since the new form of transference and the promised Warrior-[[spoiler:Operator]] in Eidolon may be [[spoiler: the Operator giving up their original body]] and only able to manifest it through a type of inverted transference, becoming mostly energy.

[[WMG: [[spoiler: The Tenno are dead. the Man in the Wall is whatever revived them and gave them void powers, is keeping them alive, manifests with the mannerisms of their father, and is either along for the ride or an agent of chaos and malice.]]]]
* The 'Sacrifice' may be [[spoiler: a loss of something to keep the Man in the Wall at bay. Or losing body parts, a la VideoGame/XenobladeChroniclesX ]]

[[spoiler: Learning that his daughter, traitor or not, has been kidnapped by Ballas, a genuine Orokin, will drive him over the edge.]]
* [[spoiler: Motivation definitely jossed. In The Sacrifice, Ballas was revealed to be collaborating with the Sentients during the Old War, having revealed the secrets of the Warframes and location of the Reservoir to Hunhow. His appearances also imply he was working for the Sentients during Apostasy: Prologue. In addition, Natah seems to have returned to her Sentient form and says "Mother, I am coming home." during the end of the quest, implying that content related to the Tau system, home of the Sentients, is coming in a future update. Perhaps the Old War will still restart, though.]]

* [[spoiler:Confirmed in The Sacrifice. Umbra is still sentient enough to move on his own.]]

[[WMG:[[spoiler: Umbra was the name of the Dax Soldier that became Excalibur Umbra]]]]
[[spoiler:Fairly self explanatory. Though somewhat unlikely since Ballas seems to have actively been trying to dehumanize Umbra, it seems odd that he would choose to refer to his creation not even by the name Excalibur, but by Umbra. It would be like calling a Warframe by the name Prime. An odd choice when there are numerous Primes out there]].

[[spoiler:Ballas is implied to be the last state of Orokin "evolution", a body-less godlike being that doesn't even use the continuity process like the Grineer Queens did. And it seems like, throughout the years, he has lost his mind. As a result, when he saw the Lotus, he became convinced that she is Margulis, despite simply being a Sentient that took her looks mostly to comfort the Tenno. Ballas, though, in his madness, decided that she is Margulis, and made her accept that she is Margulis via outright bullshit Orokin mind control. Instead of driving her into despair like the Queens seem to like to do, he instead made her sincerely believe that she is Margulis.]]

[[spoiler:And hopefully? It is up to us to help her become herself again.]] Because I really can't imagine DE just remaking all the bloody mission notifications and dialogues.

[[spoiler:The man in the wall said it was good that the operator remembers Isaah's death the way they did. It's almost like he expected this. I think he mimicked the Lotus' voice to put the Tenno on the trail for finding Umbra. He had to have known from the very beginning. synchronizing with the Umbra warframe while he still had memories of his son's death would lead to the tenno internalizing and misremembering Isaah's death as if they did it. That's why the Man in the wall had been wearing the Lotus' helmet during the chimera quest. It's meant to symbolize that the Lotus never put the Tenno on the trail for Umbra, it was the Man in the Wall. As for why he wanted the Tenno to obtain the Paracesis, The sentient slayer. I predict that he knows that Tenno will eventually have to kill the Lotus, their own surrogate mother. No matter what the circumstances, they can't 'want' to kill her. I predict that he's counting on the Tenno's matricide to finally break them, '''corrupting their minds with despair until only HE remains'''. Just like the Red Queen wanted to become the Tenno in The War Within, The Man in the wall, wants to take over the bodies of the Tenno. But, like the Tenno can fight off the Red Queen's continuity, it's possible for the Tenno can fight off the Man in the wall. As for a permanent solution, I have no idea. What do you guys think?]]

Near the end of The Second Dream, [[spoiler:Hunhow says the Stalker still hates 'them', seemingly referring to the Orokin as a whole. However, he may be alluding to the fact that he hates Tenno specifically, and is simply being controlled by an Operator.]]

* Jossed [[spoiler: barely, as of the Glassmaker finale - Nihil tries to "glass" Nora into a Cephalon before and during his boss fight, but fails.]]

* As of The New War, Jossed. [[spoiler:The Zariman did escape the Void. However, the Void's nature means that it is also possible to access a universe where the Zariman ''didn't'' escape the Void, which is the home universe of the Drifter, an AlternateSelf of the Operator.]]

[[WMG: The Lotus wasn't lying when she said that [[spoiler:she saw nothing after the fight with Ballas]]]]

She meant that literally: [[spoiler:she saw nothing. That grinned menacingly at her and recited a Requiem sequence, then laughed triumphantly.]] Sentients are still machine intelligence, so, like cephalons, they cannot [[spoiler:perceive the Man in the Wall properly]]. The pause was her not hesitating, but trying to find the words.

[[WMG: Executor Tuvul tried to perform Continuity with [[spoiler: Voruna's Operator.]]]]

She meant that literally: [[spoiler:she saw nothing. That grinned menacingly at her and recited a Requiem sequence, then laughed triumphantly.]] Sentients are still machine intelligence, so, like cephalons, they cannot [[spoiler:perceive the Man in the Wall properly]]. The pause was her not hesitating, but trying to find the words.

It's not a coincidence that [[spoiler: the two have the same voice and motherly attitude towards the Tenno. Margulis' main contribution to the Orokin war effort was perfecting Transference. "The Silver Grove" reveals that Transference was able to be used for more than just creating a link between Zariman children and the Warframes (Archimedian Silvana used it to become ''a tree'') and it's implied that creatures linked via Transference will pass similar attitudes onto one another (as Silvana felt "an evil ink, staining [her] mind" when piloting Titania, and the rogue Titania later decided to defend [[NatureHero Silvana's]] forest to the death). It's entirely possible that Margulis, rather than put her surrogate children in the line of fire, attempted to take the easy way to win the war and simply use her own invention to [[HijackingCthulhu brain-jack]] the enemy HiveMind, or at least use one unit to infiltrate and destroy their fleet. While she didn't ''completely'' succeed, the one Sentient she linked to, Natah, inherited some of Margulis' personality, particularly her attitude towards the Tenno; this provoked the Sentient to consider that she could no longer bear her own children. Margulis was executed by the Orokin because they didn't approve of the risk she took and the subversion of their plans for the survivors of the Zariman Ten Zero -- or perhaps out of fear she turned over Orokin secrets to the enemy and received some of the Sentients' [[KillEmAll hostility]] in return. When Natah broke away from the Sentients, Ballas accepted her into the Orokin ranks because she was all that was left of the love he once knew, and charged her to guide the Tenno, who accepted the aid of the [[ReplacementGoldfish familiar voice.]]]] And of course, when the war ended and the Orokin attempted to [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness dispose of the Tenno]] out of fear they could [[TurnedAgainstTheirMasters turn on their creators]] like ''[[FromBadToWorse everything else]] [[HoistByTheirOwnPetard they made]] [[ProperlyParanoid already had]]'', the Lotus did the motherly thing and turned on the Orokin, warning and convincing the Tenno to [[SelfFulfillingProphecy fight for their lives]].

[[WMG: The Lotus wasn't lying when she said that [[spoiler:nothing after the fight with Ballas]]]]

But neither he really cares, because he considers the whole of the Corpus his children, in a classical "blood of the covenant" way.

Her cryo-pod wasn't on Lua (other batches are mentioned in game sometimes), she was thawed out earlier than the PC, got into trouble and earned a lot of valuables and influence, just like them, then started to grow older and lost all her warframes and means to make new ones, so she decided to semi-retire. That would explain her knowledge about Tenno and Orokin customs, at least.

* As of The New War, Jossed. [[spoiler:The Zariman did escape the Void. However, the Void's nature means that it is also possible to access a universe where the Zariman ''didn't'' escape the Void, which is the home universe of the Drifter, an AlternateSelf of the Operator.]]

[[WMG: Warframe is ''VideoGame/HotlineMiami'' RecycledInSpace.]]

Not the real one, anyway. What came back was a copy, as were the Tenno. Juvenile copies of the adult crew. The trailer for The Duviri Paradox shows an adult soldier who might be an older version of the Operator who stashes a gun for him. Analysis of the background indicates that there's some sort of large Orokin ship there, maybe the Zariman.

Because it's been too long since DE introduced it as a possibility with the Lua spy maps and then proceeded to never bring it up again!