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[[WMG: Loki will become [[Film/TheRoom Tommy Wiseau after this movie]].]]

* [[spoiler:Confirmed, the Bifrost is repaired but closed, so Thor decides to break out Loki.]]

That is, until [[spoiler: Thanos]] comes looking for him...

* [[spoiler:Jossed, although she accidentally ‘‘does‘‘ walk into a wormhole.]]

* [[spoiler:Jossed.]]

** [[spoiler: Jossed, Muspelheim is shown as in passing one of the Nine Realms during the Convergence but is not mentioned by name, nor do either of the stingers suggest this. Doesn't mean he won't be in it though.]]

** [[spoiler:Jossed.]]

Either [[spoiler: Malekith]] is hiding in an obscenely cold place, or [[spoiler: Malekith]] refuses to work with either humans or Asgardians, so Thor and Odin have to send Loki to talk to Malekith. Loki has mixed feelings on the whole thing. On the one hand, he's being used.
* Jossed. [[spoiler: Although it's a stretch to confirm if you assume Loki survived getting impaled because he is a frost giant. It was mentioned on the [[Headscratchers/ThorTheDarkWorld Headscratchers]] page.]]

[[WMG: [[spoiler: Malekith]] will visit Loki in his cell]]
[[spoiler: Malekith]] will offer things to Loki for either help or information. Loki turns him down. Expect this and the scene where Loki passes the information onto Thor to be his only two scenes.
* [[spoiler:Jossed. Frigga's actress confirmed she and Loki will have to talk and there is so much to explore with Loki's character since his defeat by the Avengers. Besides, Loki got his own fandom, and they are a bit pissed off with his role in The Avengers, where he was a complete monster. An AudienceAlienatingPremise is not good for business, Loki will have an important role in this film. Count with it.]]

[[spoiler: Loki, whom after doing his EnemyMine with Thor, will have escaped and taken the Infinity Gauntlet from Odin's throne room and given it to Thanos as compensation for his failure on taking over Earth.]]
* [[spoiler:Jossed.]]

This movie is supposed to put Loki on a redemption arc. However, considering how many people Loki got killed in the first Thor movie and ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'', it'd be pretty hard to redeem him fully without falling for ProtagonistCenteredMorality. But what if Loki does a HeroicSacrifice in this movie, and thus [[RedemptionEqualsDeath redeems]] himself? By the end movie Thor (or Odin) will then resurrect him as a kid (just like in the comics), and since the new Kid Loki isn't technically responsible for the old one's crimes, they could set him up as a proper AntiHero. Thus they can use one of the most popular interpretations of Loki from the comics, and also set up the plot for ''Thor 3'', where Thor and Loki will have to work together to defear Surtur.

* [[spoiler:Officially Jossed.]]

* [[spoiler:Confirmed.]]

** [[spoiler:Confirmed, mostly.]]

** [[spoiler: However, everything else is Jossed. He does cause a lot of collateral damage to Asgard ''by accident'', though.]]

* [[spoiler:Jossed.]]

* Look at the part of the trailer just before [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7p7rocHEecE#t=75s Thor does his big NO]] [[spoiler: Look at who is the apparent ‘sacrifice’: who else would be wearing leather with green material for wrist-guards? Thor’s always preferred red and blue highlights and Jane’s not wearing leather. It’s already been established that Loki is probably not the type to kneel voluntarily. Apparently this is at the hands of MALEKITH THE ACCURSED, who is not some puny human or burly non-magic Asgardian but an accomplished Dark Elf magic-user not likely to be fooled by Loki-reflections. However, trailers are reputed to be repositories of misdirection of the finest quality, and the people behind these movies know that poking a hornet’s nest of Loki-fans is probably a good way to make sure they’ve got an audience.]]
* It was revealed at the end of ''ComicBook/JourneyIntoMystery'' that [[spoiler: the entire chain of events from Loki's HeroicSacrifice to save Asgard through his reincarnation and gradual winning of the trust of those around him was a plan to clear his name and free him up for further shenanigans of as-yet undetermined morality.]] Faking his own RedemptionEqualsDeath ? Absolutely possible.
** [[spoiler: Confirmed, sort of. He appears to die for real at first, but then it turns out the death was faked.]]

* [[spoiler:Jossed. They don't show up.]]

** [[spoiler: Jossed.]]

[[WMG: [[spoiler:Loki vs. Kurse]] will feature a Call Back to the Hulk Smash scene:]]
By Word of God (Adewale Akinnuoye Agbaje) [[spoiler:Loki and Kurse come to blows.]] This would be a perfect opportunity for Loki to avoid his opponent and say something to the effect of "I don't make the same mistakes twice." He'll probably still go down, but at least he'll show that he could have put up a fight if not for his sheer hubris against Jade Jaws.
* [[spoiler: Half and half. Loki and Kurse come to blows, but it's not a call back to the Hulk Smash scene.]]

According to a few magazine pictures, Malekith isn't scarred [[spoiler: during the Dark Elves/Marauder's invasion of Asgard.]] Perhaps he'll taste the wrath of Gungnir.
* [[spoiler: Jossed. He's scarred by Thor.]]

* [[spoiler:Jossed.]]

* [[spoiler:Jossed.]]

** [[spoiler: Loki pulls an act, and Thor doesn't fall for it...but it's not funny nor awesome. The scene is one hell of a TearJerker; Loki is trying to look composed in front of Thor after the death of their mother, but then reveals that he's torn his cell apart.]]
** [[spoiler:He does it again to pull a long con on Malekith, and it ''is'' awesome. ]]

** [[spoiler:Confirmed for the latter, Jossed for the former.]]

[[WMG: When Loki [[spoiler:slices off Thor's hand, he's being magically amped by Malekith]] ]]
* [[spoiler:Jossed, it was an illusion to trick Malekith into trusting him.]]

[[WMG: [[spoiler:Malekith is weakening Thor with his (anti-matter based?) power.]] ]]

** [[spoiler:Jossed for both.]]

In which he pretends to be on Malekith's side, but is really fighting for Asgard. [[spoiler: The whole 'slicing off Thor's hand' business could be an instant of IfYoureSoEvilEatThisKitten, and he uses his trickster/magic abilities to only make it ''look'' like he'd done it.]] Certainly the scene in the new trailer where Malekith is levitating Jane with Loki, the Dark Elves and possibly Thor standing by would be a good opportunity to betray either side for Laufeyson.
** [[spoiler: Loki supposedly betraying Thor was part of ThePlan. So yes, Loki really is fighting for Asgard, but only Thor knew about the trick.]]

[[WMG: Thor won't [[spoiler: lose his hand to Loki]] ]]
[[spoiler: Tyr will.]] After all, that's primarily what [[spoiler: Tyr]] is known for.
* [[spoiler:Jossed, though "Thor won't lose his hand to Loki" is confirmed.]]

** [[spoiler:This happens indirectly: if Thor hadn't come to Earth in the first film then Jane might not have been in England to accidentally find the Aether, and Malakith wouldn't have known where to look for it if it hadn't escaped from its containment to infect Jane.]]

** [[spoiler:Jossed.]]

** [[spoiler: Sort of confirmed. He fakes his death.]]

** [[spoiler:Jossed.]]

** [[spoiler: Jossed.]]

** [[spoiler:Confirmed.]]

** [[spoiler:Jossed.]]

** [[spoiler:Jossed.]]

** [[spoiler: Confirmed.]]

** [[spoiler: We have no clue whether this is confirmed or Jossed. Loki's disguised as him and is sitting on the throne, but that doesn't mean Odin's dead.]]
*** [[spoiler: Although Loki was implied to have pulled a KillAndReplace on Odin, this implication was ignored by the crew of ''Film/ThorRagnarok'', who instead had Loki put Odin into a retirement home. So jossed]].

* [[spoiler: Loki and Jane's interactions are limited due to her weakened state from the Aether.]]

* [[spoiler: Jossed, although Captain America shows up (sort of).]]

[[WMG: [[spoiler:All of the Infinity Gems are playing double duty]] ]]
The end seen with Sif, Volstagg and [[spoiler: the Collecter reveals the Tesserect (which is also the Cosmic Cube) is one of the Infinity Stones. Therefore, the other 5 Stones are also either well known powerful items, or part of them (such as part of the Ultimate Nullifier, or the Orb of Agamatto)]]
** Jossed as of ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy2014''. We know of at least once that was never referred to as anything but [[spoiler: an Infinity Stone]].

[[WMG: [[spoiler:Loki is still working for Thanos.]]]]
[[spoiler: It was Thanos' plan to make Loki the king of Asgard. He took Loki off the Dark World, brought him back to Asgard, took care of Odin (Either killed him or imprisoned him somewhere.), and Loki took Odin's throne. Now he has the tesseract, and if speculation is right, the Aether too.]]

* [[spoiler:Jossed.]]

He figured if anyone could protect him from [[spoiler: Thanos's [[YouHaveFailedMe wrath]]]], it's Odin.
* [[spoiler: This could be the reason he faked his death; to get away from Thanos.]]

* [[spoiler:Jossed for the stinger.]]

Loki is now [[spoiler: disguising himself as Odin]] as a means to hide and potentially protect himself in case Thanos comes back for him because of his failure in ''Avengers''. [[spoiler: If Thanos or his majordomo show up demanding the Tessaract, he's in a position to just ''give'' it to them.]] It's safe to say his bases are well covered now.

[[WMG: Odin [[spoiler: isn't dead]] ]]
[[spoiler: Loki isn't powerful enough to kill him. He only disguised himself as the guard in order to trick Odin into believing he was dead, and later disguises himself as Odin in order to see what Thor was going to do (Odin was somewhere else when this happened). As for what his next motives are...we'll have to wait until Thor 3 for that.]]
* [[spoiler: It wouldn't be like Marvel to kill Odin off screen.]]
* [[spoiler: Alternatively, he's just entered the Odinsleep. He expended a lot of energy (along with the rest of the Asgardians) driving back the Dark Elves.]]
** [[spoiler: Theory: he entered it soon after guard!Loki reported his "death" or Loki revealed himself and confronted him and Odin is so exhausted he falls asleep during this and instead of calling for help like in the first movie Loki just stashes him away somewhere and takes the throne.]]
* Alternatively, five seconds after the final frame [[spoiler: Loki hears the following words: "Son, get off my throne".]]

* ''Film/ThorRagnarok'': [[spoiler:Confirmed, Loki put him in a retirement home in New York.]]

[[WMG: [[spoiler: Loki is actively working against Thanos]] ]]
[[spoiler: The deal Loki had with Thanos was that he would retrieve the Tesseract in return for being granted Earth. Since Volstagg and Sif are aware the Tesseract is an Infinity Stone, then it is logical that Loki would be as well. So he is aware that Thanos is trying to gather them. When Sif and Volstagg take the Aether to the Collector, they are presumably acting on Odin(Loki)'s orders. Meaning that Loki is trying to separate the Stones.]]
* Loki is now known to be responsible (either directly or indirectly) for moving no less than half of the six Infinity Stones out of Thanos' grasp. The Tesseract is [[spoiler:locked safely away in one of Asgard's most secure vaults, along with one of the two known Infinity Gauntlets (shame that Thanos has the other).]] The Aether was [[spoiler:given to the Collector, whom probably has lots of places to hide such a small container. He also seems rich enough to have lots of security that can at least slow Thanos down while the Collector calls someone stronger than himself for help.]] Having the Aether also caused [[spoiler:the Collector to seek the other Stones,]] which resulted in the Power Stone being [[spoiler:safeguarded by the Nova Corps at the end of the events in Guardians of the Galaxy.]] Perhaps that one wasn't intended by Loki's plans, but the more Stones he can keep away from Thanos, the better. And last but not least, the Mind Stone [[spoiler:was left behind on Midgard in the Chitauri Scepter when Loki was defeated, possibly on purpose.]] This leaves Thanos with a current score of zero Infinity Stones. Loki is also in a prime position [[spoiler:as Asgard's King]] to attempt to keep Thanos away from the last two.[softreturn]Why would Loki be so determined to thwart Thanos? [[spoiler:Well he probably isn't too pleased with all the torture it's implied he was subjected to.]] And as a certain Star Lord put it, he's "one of the idiots who lives in the universe," and a universe ruled by Thanos probably wouldn't be a very good place for Loki to go about his usual mischievous business.

[[WMG: Series/AgentsOfSHIELD will have to deal with [[spoiler: the Ice Troll loose in London]] ]]

** That Ice troll is awesome. [[spoiler: He's helping London with its infestation of pigeons.]] [[TheDividual FitzSimmons]] will want to keep it as a pet.
*** [[spoiler:Jossed. They were dealing with an Asgardian prisoner which escaped during the Dark Elf attack.]]

[[WMG: Loki [[spoiler:died by Kurse's hand and was brought back to life]]]]
All evidence so far shows that Loki's illusions are intangible: how could Thor [[spoiler:hold his body as he "died" if he was faking that massive wound]]? [[spoiler:If he died, and somehow Thanos showed up and offered him the chance to come back if he would help Thanos retrieve the Infinity Gems, or maybe him and Thanos had it planned all along from the very beginning.]] Or maybe Loki learnt something about [[spoiler:coming back from the dead]] on his journey into mystery in-between ''Film/{{Thor}}'' and ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}''.
* Another option, and this one is going on some assumptions about the universe, is that [[spoiler:Loki died and Hel brought him back.]] Assuming that Loki's children exist in this universe (and Sleipnir appeared back in ''Thor''), it is a possibility that she could have come into play. [[spoiler:It just seems to make a bit more sense than Thanos bringing Loki back.]] When Loki tells Kurse, "See you in Hel, monster!", he was referring Norse underworld, and not the Christian hell. It seems like the writers included that line on purpose as a possible clue to how [[spoiler:Loki cheated death.]]
* Or he [[spoiler: didn't die but did make the wound look worse than it was and/or faked his death quickly and then healed himself as soon as Thor left.]]

Granted, he didn't seem to have that high of an opinion on humans in the past, but he did [[spoiler: fling her out of the way of the gravity grenade and almost got killed himself in the process. He made the action look far too instinctive to be part of a carefully-constructed plan to manipulate anyone]]. Basically, that act was most likely a genuine reaction on his part.

[[WMG: [[spoiler: Odin gave the throne to Loki.]]]]
[[spoiler: One of the thing we know about Odin is that he believes in results. He knows he needs an heir, and Thor isn't cut out for it, and probably already guessed that Thor no longer wanted it. Now, hate Loki though he may, he realized that Loki would at least have a vested interest in protecting Asgard if he was its king. Overall, Loki has the potential to be a truly great king. So, Odin let Loki take on his form to make the transition of power work.]] Wouldn't the real twist be if [[spoiler: Loki ''didn't'' do anything unsavory to Odin, but was allowed by him to literally take his place on the throne?]]

* ''Film/ThorRagnarok'': [[spoiler:Jossed.]]

[[WMG: [[spoiler: Odin is dead.]]]]
Loki [[spoiler: killed him]] immediately after that scene in the throne room, hence the smirk. [[http://screencrush.com/thor-2-odin/ This article]] says it could go either way.
* ''Film/ThorRagnarok'': [[spoiler:Jossed.]]

[[WMG: Thor [[spoiler:knows that Odin is really Loki and is just biding his time to strike]]]]

* ''Film/ThorRagnarok'': [[spoiler:Jossed.]]

Since [[spoiler:Loki]] now controls Asgard, he is in a position to either search for the remaining Infinity Stones for [[spoiler:Thanos]] and/or prepare to fight against him. To that end, Loki would need to make sure Thor and the Avengers will not move against him until he is ready to crush them, or call upon them for help when he deems them useful. To that end, a sure way of doing that would be to create various powerful supervillains that would occupy his brother, Film/{{The Avengers|2012}} and ComicBook/{{Shield}}. For instance, [[spoiler:Loki]] could create Thor's more earthbound villains in his RoguesGallery like The Absorbing Man, Mr. Hyde and The Wrecker. In addition, [[spoiler:Loki]] could seek out The ComicBook/RedSkull and send him back to Earth with seed money to start his schemes of world domination to keep ComicBook/CaptainAmerica and ComicBook/{{SHIELD}} busy. Additionally, [[spoiler:Loki]] could spring The Leader to push him to hound the Hulk for any scheme he would have in mind.
* [[spoiler: Loki would probably have his hands full ruling Asgard and such, plus he has what he wants, why should he bother messing about with the Midgardians? And I think the next Avengers movie shows they'll have plenty of opponents without Loki's help.]]

After the Avengers, Loki was sent to Asgard as a prisoner. He managed to use the circumstances (the dark elves attack)to his favor. Now, as [[spoiler:king of Asgard]] he can work freely to obtain the Infinity Gems for Thanos and will be with Thanos during the Avengers 3 (occupying the role Mephisto had during the Infinity Gauntlet series).

* [[spoiler: As stated above, this is legally bared as long as the FF rights are gone. Galactus is a no go.]]

[[WMG: Someone will see through Loki's illusion as [[spoiler:Odin]]]]
Loki will eventually slip up and his illusion as [[spoiler: Odin]] will fade. This will prompt him to attempt to flee Asgard, possibly causing a manhunt to find him in the next Thor movie.
* ''Film/ThorRagnarok'': [[spoiler:Confirned-ish, Thor eventually figures out that Odin is actually Loki. He doesn’t attempt to flee though.]]

[[WMG: Odin did [[spoiler: die, but Loki didn't kill him.]]]]
[[spoiler: Okay, in the first movie Loki lied and told Thor that the stress of everything that had happened was too much for Odin, and he died. Now at the end of Dark World, Odin has lost his wife, and believes he has lost a son. This proved too much for the Allfather to bear, and he passed away. Loki was simply in the right place to take advantage of this.]] Add that since we didn't see the soldier[[spoiler:/Loki]] telling Odin who [[spoiler:had died]] and only see him assuming that it was [[spoiler:Loki]], it's possible that the soldier[[spoiler:/Loki]] told Odin that it was [[spoiler:''Thor'' who had died]] which would have been more [[spoiler:devastating to him]] than if he thought [[spoiler:Loki had died]].

* ''Film/ThorRagnarok'': [[spoiler:Jossed.]]

[[WMG: [[spoiler: Collector is collecting the Infinity Stones to ]] stop Galactus.]]
[[spoiler: The Council of Elders used Infinity Gems on Galactus in the mainstream universe once. Thanos can be the first arch-villain through Phase One to Phase Three or Four, and by the time they may have got back the rights of FF, so Galactus can be the next.]]
* As stated above, this is legally bared as long as the FF rights are gone. Galactus is a no go (and this is the third time he's been mentioned on this page; what part of "There is no way Creator/TwentiethCenturyFox will be giving up the film rights to the Fantastic Four while the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse is making so much money" do people not understand?).
* [[spoiler: Plus, the Collector doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would acquire things for reasons other than his own satisfaction.]]

** [[spoiler: Confirmed as of Avengers: Age of Ultron. Loki's scepter had the Mind Stone.]]

* ''Film/ThorRagnarok'': [[spoiler:Jossed.]]

[[spoiler:The Einherjar guard who reports to Odin]] kinda sounds like him. The TV reporter resembles him. Loki's been pulling more strings than we thought.

[[WMG: [[spoiler:Odin was killed, but wasn't killed by Loki.]]]]
[[spoiler: Odin was killed by another villain ]]

* ''Film/ThorRagnarok'': [[spoiler:Jossed.]]

[[WMG: How Loki [[spoiler: faked his death.]] ]]
[[spoiler: He impaled Kurse...but the blade didn't go all the way through. Instead Loki created the illusion of it going all the way, thus tricking both Thor and Kurse at the same time. He knew Kurse would try to kill him in retaliation. So the blade that goes through him? Wasn't a blade at all, but an illusion of one.]]

* ''Film/ThorRagnarok'': [[spoiler:Jossed.]]

Asgard's in bad shape right now. There's marauders and bandits running around the nine worlds, the Dark Elves have killed Queen Frigga and tore up Asgard something fierce, and now the future of Asgard's government is in question. Thor has grown out of his JerkJock phase, but now he's renounced the throne in order to better protect the Nine Realms. Loki has tried to commit genocide on one planet, has tried to enslave another planet, and has pissed off everyone in Asgard. Odin is getting older, and losing his wife has seriously affected his judgement [[spoiler: also, he might be dead or imprisoned somewhere]]. So, what's going to happen to Asgard in Thor 3? It's likely that Heimdall will take command.

Midway through the film, when attempting to get Jane out of Asgard, Heimdall helps distract Odin by confessing to his own treason. A reasonable and logical extension of this, then, is to have Heimdall removed from his post, and then the Bifrost must be inspected. If Heimdall can no longer be trusted, who's to say he didn't sabotage it? So Odin goes down to inspect it, and takes a small group of 3-4 guards (including [[spoiler:a disguised Loki]]). While they are inspecting the Bifrost, Malekith begins to unleash the Aether's power. We even see it starting to creep into Asgard and begin to warp Heimdall's Observatory. The other guards are either killed by, or (less likely) flee from this terrifying force. Odin attempts to halt its advance with his own power, but his age and recent grief weakens him and the Aether manages to inflict unnatural wounds on him. [[spoiler:Loki]] can only watch helplessly, unable to do anything even if he wanted to, because it's a '''''fleeping''' Infinity Stone'' he's looking at. Then Thor manages to beat Malekith and the Aether stops. Odin is either dead or alive yet injured. If he's alive, then it's unlikely Asgard's healers can treat him[[labelnote:*]]After all they were unable to help Jane's Aether-related ailments.[[/labelnote]] so [[spoiler:Loki]] convinces him to go and search the realms for a cure, and leave the throne to his heir. Alternately if Odin is dead then [[spoiler:Loki]] could just push the body off the Rainbow Bridge and let it fall where no one will find it. Either way, the end result is that [[spoiler:Loki turns himself into Odin and walks away with Gungnir in hand,]] telling any who asks that the guards who came with him were all lost to the Aether and he was lucky to have escaped unharmed.
* ''Film/ThorRagnarok'': [[spoiler:Jossed.]]

[[WMG: Odin is now [[spoiler: imprisoned in Loki's cell]]]]
It'd appeal to Loki's sense of irony to [[spoiler:knock his father out and toss him into the same cell he'd been confined in himself, with an illusion laid over him to look like Loki. Odin can try to convince the guards that he's the All-Father as much as he likes: they'll ''never'' believe he's not just Loki attempting to trick them.]]
* ''Film/ThorRagnarok'': [[spoiler:Jossed.]]

Odin claims that he would have had Loki executed if Frigga didn't beg to spare him, but as king, if Odin ''really'' wanted to have Loki killed, he just could have done it. So Frigga just gave him an excuse to keep him alive. In ''Ragnarok'', [[spoiler:Odin makes clear that he loves ''both'' of his sons and it seems very genuine.]]

Focusing on the Sif-Thor-Jane [[TriangRelations love triangle]] (type 1 or 10, depending on whether you interpret Thor and Jane being friends or an item). Thor and Jane are definitely set up in the first film, while Sif is very much attracted to Thor (and he flirts with her) along with being his wife in [[Myth/NorseMythology the original myths]]
* There are hints of this, but it isn’t a focus.

** Jossed as of ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy''. We know of at least once that was never referred to as anything but [[spoiler: an Infinity Stone]].

** After {{Series/Loki}}, this is looking pretty jossed.

** After [[Series/Loki]], this is looking pretty jossed.

** After Series/Loki, this is looking pretty jossed.

Malekith & Kurse's villainy will finally force Thor to go all out, Jotunheim style, perhaps following a WorldOfCardboardSpeech. He'll end up causing a sizeable amount of collateral damage with lightning-amped hammer slams and the like. Maybe it'll be enough to take down Kurse, maybe it won't. This may put some strain on his relationship with Jane.

* Half and half. Loki delivers a lot of comedy and receives a lot of death threats, but it's in a TricksterArchetype style and he has plenty of serious moments.

[[WMG: The Jotunheim's beast will end up in [[Disney/{{Frozen}} Arendelle]]]]

[[spoiler: It was Thanos' plan to make Loki the king of Asgard. He took Loki off the Dark World, brought him back to Asgard, took care of Odin (Either killed him or imprisoned him somewhere.), and Loki took Odin's throne. Now he has the tesseract, and if speculation is right, the Aethir too.]]