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* Jossed. Kate is revealed to be alive in “KaToby”, and is later revealed to have been in England at the time of the flash forwards and is flying back.
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* Jossed. Kate is revealed to be alive in “KaToby”, [[Recap/ThisIsUsS6E12Katoby "Katoby"]], and is later revealed to have been in England at the time of the flash forwards and is flying back.
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* Confirmed, he dies in “Miguel.”
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* Confirmed, he dies in “Miguel.”
[[Recap/ThisIsUsS6E15Miguel "Miguel"]], one of the very last episodes of the final season.
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** Jossed. He adopts another daughter, buys William’s building, and ultimately goes into Public Service.
** Both Jossed. Kevin ultimately sinks into addiction and breaks up with Sophie.
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* Jossed. The necklace was given to him by a Vietnamese woman, but her child wasn’t his.
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* Jossed. She dies in the penultimate episode “The Train.”
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* Confirmed.
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* Confirmed, he dies in “Miguel.”
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* Toby works in IT solutions and thus can easily work from wherever he is.
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* Toby works in IT solutions and thus can easily work from wherever he is.is.
* Jossed. Kevin moves in with Madison, but Kate and Toby still live separately with their kids.
* Jossed. Kevin moves in with Madison, but Kate and Toby still live separately with their kids.
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[[WMG: The "Where is Future!Kate?" cliffhanger is being kept a mystery for as long as possible in case Chrissy Metz loses or gains weight.]]
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[[WMG: The "Where is Future!Kate?" cliffhanger is being kept a mystery for as long as possible in case Chrissy Metz Creator/ChrissyMetz loses or gains weight.]]
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Theory: Kate is alive, but she and Toby are definitely ''not'' still together.
** Toby is shown in a room that really doesn't appear to be in his and Kate's house, but has one of the posters from their home, indicating that wherever he is, he lives there. But a Season 4 episode does a flash ahead in time and shows Jack making music in Kate and Toby's garage well into his late-teen years, indicating that Kate and Toby didn't simply leave the house (together).
** Toby is shown in a room that really doesn't appear to be in his and Kate's house, but has one of the posters from their home, indicating that wherever he is, he lives there. But a Season 4 episode does a flash ahead in time and shows Jack making music in Kate and Toby's garage well into his late-teen years, indicating that Kate and Toby didn't simply leave the house (together).
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Considering Rebecca's decline has begun in the present day and she lives for at least another 11-12 years (if Tess is already out of college and working as a social worker, it's been at least that long, since she's 12 years old in Season 4), that's bound to be extremely hard on Miguel. When one partner has Alzheimer's, dementia or other cognitive declines, it is often their partner and primary caregiver who ends up physically declining as a result of taking care of them, even with family support.
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Considering Rebecca's decline has begun in the present day and she lives for at least another 11-12 years (if Tess is already out of college and working as a social worker, it's been at least that long, since she's 12 years old in Season 4), that's bound to be extremely hard on Miguel. When one partner has Alzheimer's, dementia or other cognitive declines, it is often their partner and primary caregiver who ends up physically declining as a result of taking care of them, even with family support.support.
[[WMG: The West Coast Pearsons will "bubble" together during the pandemic.]]
A clip from Season 5, Episode 1 shows that up to a certain point, Kevin and Kate are still having to physically distance from one another – right before Kevin reveals Madison's pregnancy. Later clips show them in the same space together, along with Rebecca and Miguel. It's likely that for a variety of reasons, they decide to move in together as one big "bubble," which fits the plot's need to keep the Pearsons interacting closely (while also adding another factor in Randall's alienation from the family). It also just makes sense, for a variety of reasons:
* Kate and Toby have a baby with special needs and would love to rely on their family for support.
* The best way to keep Rebecca on track (especially if she's unable to do the clinical trial) without over-burdening Miguel is to have a support system around her.
* Madison is also pregnant and, presumably, a high-risk pregnancy due to low BMI, history of disordered eating and hormonal fluctuations, and carrying twins.
* Kevin has the means to set everyone up in a decent-sized space, and is also probably not working much due to production shutdowns.
* Toby works in IT solutions and thus can easily work from wherever he is.
[[WMG: The West Coast Pearsons will "bubble" together during the pandemic.]]
A clip from Season 5, Episode 1 shows that up to a certain point, Kevin and Kate are still having to physically distance from one another – right before Kevin reveals Madison's pregnancy. Later clips show them in the same space together, along with Rebecca and Miguel. It's likely that for a variety of reasons, they decide to move in together as one big "bubble," which fits the plot's need to keep the Pearsons interacting closely (while also adding another factor in Randall's alienation from the family). It also just makes sense, for a variety of reasons:
* Kate and Toby have a baby with special needs and would love to rely on their family for support.
* The best way to keep Rebecca on track (especially if she's unable to do the clinical trial) without over-burdening Miguel is to have a support system around her.
* Madison is also pregnant and, presumably, a high-risk pregnancy due to low BMI, history of disordered eating and hormonal fluctuations, and carrying twins.
* Kevin has the means to set everyone up in a decent-sized space, and is also probably not working much due to production shutdowns.
* Toby works in IT solutions and thus can easily work from wherever he is.
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Having shown that by the triplets' birthday in 2020, Rebecca is clearly not in St. Louis and does not appear to have had effective treatment. The pandemic gives the writers an excuse to remove the clinical trial from the equation – many experimental medical programs and treatments had to be deferred during the time.
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Having shown that by the triplets' birthday in 2020, Rebecca is clearly not in St. Louis and does not appear to have had effective treatment. The pandemic gives the writers an excuse to remove the clinical trial from the equation – many experimental medical programs and treatments had to be deferred during the time.time.
[[WMG: The "Where is Future!Kate?" cliffhanger is being kept a mystery for as long as possible in case Chrissy Metz loses or gains weight.]]
There's been some speculation about Metz and whether she's contractually obligated/allowed to lose weight for the role, but she's said several times in the past that she's tried to lose weight for her own personal reasons as well. If Metz happens to lose or gain a visible amount of weight during production, writers don't want to have to "lock in" to Kate looking a certain way in the future, and then have to explain it if her present-day character's size changes.
** Toby's indeed lost weight in Season 4 and does appear smaller than his future self, but he's also pretty layered up in winter clothes, which can be used as a slight hand-wave.
** Notably, Toby says "I called Jack, ''they're'' on their way." If the adult Jack Damon story takes place 12 years after this, then this means Jack is at least a young teen – and definitely can't drive. So "they" refers to Jack and someone else. It probably means Jack and his little sister, but considering the future timeline, she might not be old enough to drive yet either. They're making room for Kate to still be there, just leaving it dangling.
** In the Season 3 finale, Randall walking into Rebecca's room is presented in parallel with young Randall walking into her hospital room – followed by both his siblings. It's likely they'll recreate that moment with ''all'' of the adult Big Three.
[[WMG: Miguel will die of physical health ailments before the future timeline takes place, which explains his absence.]]
Considering Rebecca's decline has begun in the present day and she lives for at least another 11-12 years (if Tess is already out of college and working as a social worker, it's been at least that long, since she's 12 years old in Season 4), that's bound to be extremely hard on Miguel. When one partner has Alzheimer's, dementia or other cognitive declines, it is often their partner and primary caregiver who ends up physically declining as a result of taking care of them, even with family support.
[[WMG: The "Where is Future!Kate?" cliffhanger is being kept a mystery for as long as possible in case Chrissy Metz loses or gains weight.]]
There's been some speculation about Metz and whether she's contractually obligated/allowed to lose weight for the role, but she's said several times in the past that she's tried to lose weight for her own personal reasons as well. If Metz happens to lose or gain a visible amount of weight during production, writers don't want to have to "lock in" to Kate looking a certain way in the future, and then have to explain it if her present-day character's size changes.
** Toby's indeed lost weight in Season 4 and does appear smaller than his future self, but he's also pretty layered up in winter clothes, which can be used as a slight hand-wave.
** Notably, Toby says "I called Jack, ''they're'' on their way." If the adult Jack Damon story takes place 12 years after this, then this means Jack is at least a young teen – and definitely can't drive. So "they" refers to Jack and someone else. It probably means Jack and his little sister, but considering the future timeline, she might not be old enough to drive yet either. They're making room for Kate to still be there, just leaving it dangling.
** In the Season 3 finale, Randall walking into Rebecca's room is presented in parallel with young Randall walking into her hospital room – followed by both his siblings. It's likely they'll recreate that moment with ''all'' of the adult Big Three.
[[WMG: Miguel will die of physical health ailments before the future timeline takes place, which explains his absence.]]
Considering Rebecca's decline has begun in the present day and she lives for at least another 11-12 years (if Tess is already out of college and working as a social worker, it's been at least that long, since she's 12 years old in Season 4), that's bound to be extremely hard on Miguel. When one partner has Alzheimer's, dementia or other cognitive declines, it is often their partner and primary caregiver who ends up physically declining as a result of taking care of them, even with family support.
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[[WMF: The pandemic will become the reason Rebecca doesn't do the clinical trial in St. Louis.]]
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* As for physical distancing between Kevin, Kate and their respective partners, the most logical write-around would be that Kevin and (presumably) Madison moved in and bubbled with Kate, Toby and family in order to stay close to her and Jack and keep an eye on Madison while she's pregnant. It'd make sense considering Toby, being in IT, can easily work from home and isn't going out to get constantly exposed, and Kevin likely isn't working due to production shutdowns.
[[WMG: The pandemic will become the reason Rebecca doesn't do the clinical trial in St. Louis.]]
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Given that the series has already [[spoiler:flashed forward to the summer/fall of 2020 and they are not socially distancing or wearing masks,]] it will be difficult to retcon those scenes to reflect the current state of the pandemic. It is probably easier from a creative standpoint to write the show as if the pandemic never happened. It may require a suspension of disbelief, but it is better than having blatant continuity errors.
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Given that the series has already [[spoiler:flashed forward to the summer/fall of 2020 and they are not socially distancing or wearing masks,]] it will be difficult to retcon those scenes to reflect the current state of the pandemic. It is probably easier from a creative standpoint to write the show as if the pandemic never happened. It may require a suspension of disbelief, but it is better than having blatant continuity errors.errors.
* Rebuked. Fogelman has said the team decided to write the pandemic into the storyline. Proven in the Season 5 trailer when Kevin is seen wearing a mask.
[[WMF: The pandemic will become the reason Rebecca doesn't do the clinical trial in St. Louis.]]
Having shown that by the triplets' birthday in 2020, Rebecca is clearly not in St. Louis and does not appear to have had effective treatment. The pandemic gives the writers an excuse to remove the clinical trial from the equation – many experimental medical programs and treatments had to be deferred during the time.
* Rebuked. Fogelman has said the team decided to write the pandemic into the storyline. Proven in the Season 5 trailer when Kevin is seen wearing a mask.
[[WMF: The pandemic will become the reason Rebecca doesn't do the clinical trial in St. Louis.]]
Having shown that by the triplets' birthday in 2020, Rebecca is clearly not in St. Louis and does not appear to have had effective treatment. The pandemic gives the writers an excuse to remove the clinical trial from the equation – many experimental medical programs and treatments had to be deferred during the time.
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[[WMG: Rebecca will die in the series finale.]]
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[[WMG: Rebecca will die in the series finale.]]]]
[[WMG: The COVID-19 pandemic will not exist in the TIU universe]]
Given that the series has already [[spoiler:flashed forward to the summer/fall of 2020 and they are not socially distancing or wearing masks,]] it will be difficult to retcon those scenes to reflect the current state of the pandemic. It is probably easier from a creative standpoint to write the show as if the pandemic never happened. It may require a suspension of disbelief, but it is better than having blatant continuity errors.
[[WMG: The COVID-19 pandemic will not exist in the TIU universe]]
Given that the series has already [[spoiler:flashed forward to the summer/fall of 2020 and they are not socially distancing or wearing masks,]] it will be difficult to retcon those scenes to reflect the current state of the pandemic. It is probably easier from a creative standpoint to write the show as if the pandemic never happened. It may require a suspension of disbelief, but it is better than having blatant continuity errors.
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* Confirmed. Kate slimmed down to a healthy weight, then started binge eating.
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[[WMG: Jack has a secret child from Vietnam, who Kevin will discover when he travels there in Season 3. Possibly the mother of the child is who gave him the special necklace)]]
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** Jossed: It's revealed in 2x14 that Jack died from a heart attack caused by massive smoke inhalation.
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** Confirmed, but the cause of the fire was a defective Crock-Pot.
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** In fact, the year is confirmend by 2x13 and 2x14 to be 1998, as in the latter the present scenes take place on the 20th anniversary of Jack's death.
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** Confirmed, but I think the year of death might be off.
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* Also, NBC aired Super Bowl XXX & will air Super Bowl LII, with an episode of the show to air as part of lead-out coverage. I predict that this episode will be set on January 26, 1996, & will end with Jack's death scene.
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* Also, NBC aired Super Bowl XXX & will air Super Bowl LII, with an episode of the show to air as part of lead-out coverage. I predict that this episode will be set on January 26, 1996, & will end with Jack's death scene.scene.
[[WMG: Rebecca will die in the series finale.]]
[[WMG: Rebecca will die in the series finale.]]
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[[WMG: Jack died on Super Bowl Sunday]]
It's well established that Jack died in a fire in 1996 & Kate likes to watch Pittsburgh Steeler games with her father's ashes by her side. Also, notice in the final scene of the season two premiere, set in the immediate aftermath of their house burning down, Rebecca is wearing a Steelers shirt. Now, the Pittsburgh Steelers played in the 1996 Super Bowl. Could it be that Jack died on January 28, 1996.
It's well established that Jack died in a fire in 1996 & Kate likes to watch Pittsburgh Steeler games with her father's ashes by her side. Also, notice in the final scene of the season two premiere, set in the immediate aftermath of their house burning down, Rebecca is wearing a Steelers shirt. Now, the Pittsburgh Steelers played in the 1996 Super Bowl. Could it be that Jack died on January 28, 1996.
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[[WMG: Jack died on Super Bowl Sunday]]
Sunday (& that episode will air on Super Bowl Sunday)]]
It's well established that Jack died in a fire in 1996 & Kate likes to watch Pittsburgh Steeler games with her father's ashes by her side. Also, notice in the final scene of the season two premiere, set in the immediate aftermath of their house burning down, Rebecca is wearing a Steelers shirt. Now, the Pittsburgh Steelers played in the 1996 Super Bowl. Could it be that Jack died after after watching his football team play?
* Also, NBC aired Super Bowl XXX & will air Super Bowl LII, with an episode of the show to air as part of lead-out coverage. I predict that this episode will be set on January28, 1996.26, 1996, & will end with Jack's death scene.
It's well established that Jack died in a fire in 1996 & Kate likes to watch Pittsburgh Steeler games with her father's ashes by her side. Also, notice in the final scene of the season two premiere, set in the immediate aftermath of their house burning down, Rebecca is wearing a Steelers shirt. Now, the Pittsburgh Steelers played in the 1996 Super Bowl. Could it be that Jack died after after watching his football team play?
* Also, NBC aired Super Bowl XXX & will air Super Bowl LII, with an episode of the show to air as part of lead-out coverage. I predict that this episode will be set on January
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* Jack is also shown messing with the circuit breaker in three recent episodes implying faulty wiring. Faulty wiring is one of the top ten causes of house fires.
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* Jack is also shown messing with the circuit breaker in three recent episodes implying faulty wiring. Faulty wiring is one of the top ten causes of house fires.fires.
[[WMG: Jack died on Super Bowl Sunday]]
It's well established that Jack died in a fire in 1996 & Kate likes to watch Pittsburgh Steeler games with her father's ashes by her side. Also, notice in the final scene of the season two premiere, set in the immediate aftermath of their house burning down, Rebecca is wearing a Steelers shirt. Now, the Pittsburgh Steelers played in the 1996 Super Bowl. Could it be that Jack died on January 28, 1996.
[[WMG: Jack died on Super Bowl Sunday]]
It's well established that Jack died in a fire in 1996 & Kate likes to watch Pittsburgh Steeler games with her father's ashes by her side. Also, notice in the final scene of the season two premiere, set in the immediate aftermath of their house burning down, Rebecca is wearing a Steelers shirt. Now, the Pittsburgh Steelers played in the 1996 Super Bowl. Could it be that Jack died on January 28, 1996.
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* Confirmed as of 2x01 that the Pearson home did burn down. Further speculation based on the episode: Kevin is shown to have a broken leg and is out somewhere with Sophie the night of the fire. In a previous episode, Kevin moved into the basement and called the washer that wouldn't turn off "possessed." Kate lied about Kevin going out, the washer malfunctioned somehow causing the fire, and Jack went down thinking the fire had trapped his injured son.
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* Confirmed as of 2x01 that the Pearson home did burn down. Further speculation based on the episode: Kevin is shown to have a broken leg and is out somewhere with Sophie the night of the fire. In a previous episode, Kevin moved into the basement and called the washer that wouldn't turn off "possessed." Kate lied about Kevin going out, the washer malfunctioned somehow causing the fire, and Jack went down thinking the fire had trapped his injured son.son.
*Jack is also shown messing with the circuit breaker in three recent episodes implying faulty wiring. Faulty wiring is one of the top ten causes of house fires.
*Jack is also shown messing with the circuit breaker in three recent episodes implying faulty wiring. Faulty wiring is one of the top ten causes of house fires.
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The house the Pearsons grew up in has not been seen in the present day. If the house was on fire, it would explain Kate's (survivor's) guilt, since Jack would have saved her. Also, Jack's coffin isn't seen in the flashback, implying that it was a closed urn service, and why Kate keeps his urn.
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The house the Pearsons grew up in has not been seen in the present day. If the house was on fire, it would explain Kate's (survivor's) guilt, since Jack would have saved her. Also, Jack's coffin isn't seen in the flashback, implying that it was a closed urn service, and why Kate keeps his urn.urn.
* Confirmed as of 2x01 that the Pearson home did burn down. Further speculation based on the episode: Kevin is shown to have a broken leg and is out somewhere with Sophie the night of the fire. In a previous episode, Kevin moved into the basement and called the washer that wouldn't turn off "possessed." Kate lied about Kevin going out, the washer malfunctioned somehow causing the fire, and Jack went down thinking the fire had trapped his injured son.
* Confirmed as of 2x01 that the Pearson home did burn down. Further speculation based on the episode: Kevin is shown to have a broken leg and is out somewhere with Sophie the night of the fire. In a previous episode, Kevin moved into the basement and called the washer that wouldn't turn off "possessed." Kate lied about Kevin going out, the washer malfunctioned somehow causing the fire, and Jack went down thinking the fire had trapped his injured son.
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While Kate has had some weight issues since she was eight years old (at the earliest), she became morbidly obese in her adult life. A possibility for this could stem from guilt over believing that she is behind Jack's death.
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While Kate has had some weight issues since she was eight years old (at the earliest), she became morbidly obese in her adult life. A possibility for this could stem from guilt over believing that she is behind Jack's death.death.
[[WMG: Jack probably died in a house fire]]
The house the Pearsons grew up in has not been seen in the present day. If the house was on fire, it would explain Kate's (survivor's) guilt, since Jack would have saved her. Also, Jack's coffin isn't seen in the flashback, implying that it was a closed urn service, and why Kate keeps his urn.
[[WMG: Jack probably died in a house fire]]
The house the Pearsons grew up in has not been seen in the present day. If the house was on fire, it would explain Kate's (survivor's) guilt, since Jack would have saved her. Also, Jack's coffin isn't seen in the flashback, implying that it was a closed urn service, and why Kate keeps his urn.
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* Kate will talk to Toby and learn that Jack's death is not her fault (she didn't force him to drive drunk), and she will be able to move past Jack's death and grow.
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* Kate will talk to Toby and learn that Jack's death is not her fault (she didn't force him to drive drunk), and she will be able to move past Jack's death and grow.grow.
[[WMG: Kate's weight gain]]
While Kate has had some weight issues since she was eight years old (at the earliest), she became morbidly obese in her adult life. A possibility for this could stem from guilt over believing that she is behind Jack's death.
[[WMG: Kate's weight gain]]
While Kate has had some weight issues since she was eight years old (at the earliest), she became morbidly obese in her adult life. A possibility for this could stem from guilt over believing that she is behind Jack's death.
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From the ending of "What Now?" and the promo for the season finale, it seems like he gets drunk and drives to Cleveland to see Rebecca. It also looks like he makes it there okay, but gets in a fight with Rebecca's ex. If he gets punched hard enough, or if his head gets slammed on the bar or something, it could kill him. The creators have said it's not something people have guessed so far (and a drunk driving accident is a common guess), and Kate blames herself because she encouraged him to make up with her, so a fight for her honor seems like a possible cause.
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From the ending of "What Now?" and the promo for the season finale, it seems like he gets drunk and drives to Cleveland to see Rebecca. It also looks like he makes it there okay, but gets in a fight with Rebecca's ex. If he gets punched hard enough, or if his head gets slammed on the bar or something, it could kill him. The creators have said it's not something people have guessed so far (and a drunk driving accident is a common guess), and Kate blames herself because she encouraged him to make up with her, so a fight for her honor seems like a possible cause.cause.
[[WMG: What will happen to the Big Three]]
Based on the end of "What Now?", here are some theories as to what will happen in the finale and beyond to the Pearsons.
*Randall will start his own company of the weather-thing (which I still don't understand). Or he'll devote his life to becoming a musician like William.
*Kevin will choose Sophie over a movie role, possibly choosing to produce another play. And she will likely be upset about him giving up his dream for her.
**Alternately, he will briefly return to LA for the movie, but he will come back.
*Kate will talk to Toby and learn that Jack's death is not her fault (she didn't force him to drive drunk), and she will be able to move past Jack's death and grow.
[[WMG: What will happen to the Big Three]]
Based on the end of "What Now?", here are some theories as to what will happen in the finale and beyond to the Pearsons.
*Randall will start his own company of the weather-thing (which I still don't understand). Or he'll devote his life to becoming a musician like William.
*Kevin will choose Sophie over a movie role, possibly choosing to produce another play. And she will likely be upset about him giving up his dream for her.
**Alternately, he will briefly return to LA for the movie, but he will come back.
*Kate will talk to Toby and learn that Jack's death is not her fault (she didn't force him to drive drunk), and she will be able to move past Jack's death and grow.
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[[WMG: Jack dies from blows to the head]]
From the ending of "What Now?" and the promo for the season finale, it seems like he gets drunk and drives to Cleveland to see Rebecca. It also looks like he makes it there okay, but gets in a fight with Rebecca's ex. If he gets punched hard enough, or if his head gets slammed on the bar or something, it could kill him. The creators have said it's not something people have guessed so far (and a drunk driving accident is a common guess), and Kate blames herself because she encouraged him to make up with her, so a fight for her honor seems like a possible cause.
From the ending of "What Now?" and the promo for the season finale, it seems like he gets drunk and drives to Cleveland to see Rebecca. It also looks like he makes it there okay, but gets in a fight with Rebecca's ex. If he gets punched hard enough, or if his head gets slammed on the bar or something, it could kill him. The creators have said it's not something people have guessed so far (and a drunk driving accident is a common guess), and Kate blames herself because she encouraged him to make up with her, so a fight for her honor seems like a possible cause.
