- I was wondering about that. But why'd he imagine enemies too?
- Because he is still traumatized and can't convince himself that anything, real or imaginary, can be completely positive. The enemies and bad adventures are just times when life is hitting him especially hard.
- And this would add an element of Fridge Horror to the Wishful Life episode and make it absolutely heartbreaking, because of what his offer of disappearing from existence really was.
- Because he is still traumatized and can't convince himself that anything, real or imaginary, can be completely positive. The enemies and bad adventures are just times when life is hitting him especially hard.
- I wish you wouldn't do that...
One of them went insane in their adult lives. Either Timmy got into a magical accident that destroyed his mind, or he lost Cosmo, Wanda, and Poof and became so overwhelmed by his problems it broke his mind. On the other side Trixie grew up, realized she couldn't get her was as easy as she did when she was a kid, and therefore lost everything and went crazy. Either way, one of them is constantly having this hallutination while they are really in a padded cell, wrapped in a straitjacket.
- Which would mean that the entire plot of the movie would be entire pointless and not even canon to the original series. I agree with you.
- If that's the case, though, why the hell would the creator even bother doing this story?
- Call it self-sabotage. He isn't accidentally failing, he is deliberately refusing to grow up because he doesn't want to lose Cosmo and Wanda AND HAVE HIS MEMORIES OF THEM ERASED.
- To add to this, this troper thinks that Tad and Chad are just the two rich kids at school who are popular, but Timmy imagines them as complete Jerkasses who encourage bullying and torment towards unpopular kids. In addition, Chloe is just a new girl on the block with a huge imagination who wants to be Timmy's friend but Timmy imagines her as a near-Mary Sue who wants to share his Fairy Godparents.
- This makes kinda sense. It explains alot, actually! I think this is why the show envisions how cruel Vicky is by Timmy, in his coma, who is furious with her and why his parents act like buffoons because they always left him with Vicky.
First off, Cosmo and Wanda's relationship can easily be compared to Ron and Hermione's as sort of a love-hate relationship. There is also the matter of baby Poof doing magic without meaning to, which usually leads to trouble. There are many rules and restrictions to magic and it is apparently under government. Also, the Head Pixie is often called HP, which are the initials of Harry Potter and there is a popular, though one-time, character named Molly. One episode even has an owl delivering mail while waring a Hogwart's scarf (though this was likely an outright shout-out to Harry Potter itself)! Lastly, Remmy Bucksaplenty appears eerily similar to Draco Malfoy. There are also hints of this in his other works.
- Timmy eventually ending up with Tootie is also similar to Harry/Ginny.
- Speaking of Harry/Ginny, Mark shares his (possibly fake) surname with Cho Chang.
- Cosmo and Wanda resemble Arthur and Molly, especially earlier on when Cosmo is endearingly stupid, similar to Arthur and Wanda is only mildly naggy, similar to Molly. And it's clear that each married couple genuinely love each other.
- Also they were both created so the fans would fall in love with them and have sympathy for them. It was a Batman Gambit to make the fans stop falling in love with Crocker and other Dracos In Leather Pants.
- Cosmo: Jackalope (it just sounds right, y'know?)
- Anti-cosmo: Mole (usually seen as more refined but also more grumpy as compared to other such sized mammals, often seen with a cup of tea in anthropomorphizing series)
- Wanda: Owl ("wise", makes a bunch of noise that nobody cares about [because of the "wise" part, but still])
- Anti-wanda: Blue jay (annoying, stupid birds that can never shut up and make things miserable for everything else in the area)
- Poof: A bombardier beetle (...yeah)
- Timmy: Rabbit with permanent mites (twitchy, doesn't think things through, basically a less mystical, more hyper version of Cosmo)
- Vicky: Viper or constrictor (thanks to Snakes Are The Devil, the poison, the way she weaves her tangled web to slowly pull people further and further in until there's no escape but the embrace of sweet, sweet death... and then she feeds)
- Tootie: Magpie (dangle something shiny in front of a magpie or look up their mating strategies and you'll see what I mean)
- Trixie: swan (Pretty, and most people think they're harmless, but they're really nasty little buggers that could rip your head off with pruning shears... I mean, break a man's arm with one strike)
- Jorgen: Alpha wolf, or terrier that acts like an alpha wolf (Pretty much a leader, but still submits to pack dynamic when out of sorts or confused)
- Juandissimo: Peacock (...yeah)
- Chester: possum (bitey, plays dead, possibly rabid)
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TrixieVeronica: Cuckoo (replacement syndrome, and she's totally, well you know...)
- Yeah, except that there's a tiny problem: NONE OF THE CHILDREN WOULD HAVE STABLE DAEMONS. It's a key plot point in the His Dark Materials series that your daemon gets his/her permanent form once their human grows up, and the kind of person one is as a ten year old isn't necessarily what they're like for their entire life. Bare minimum, that means no stable daemon for Chester, Veronica, Trixie, Tootie, Vicky, Poof, Timmy, Chloe, AJ, Remy, or any of those who aren't "Adults," yet. Also, in HDM, non-human creatures that were still self-aware (such as Bears and Galvespians) don't have external daemons, so that could rule out Poof (again,) Cosmo, Wanda, Jorgen, Mama Cosma, Sparky, The Darkness... pretty much all fairies, pixies, genies, self-aware animals, robots, dragons, or any non-human life forms. You have to be an ADULT HUMAN to have a stable exterior daemon. And before someone asks "What happens before they're adults?" The answer is that a child's daemon is a shapeshifter, and can be any animal at all.
- Yes.
- Well, we know that Sailor Moon dubs are Serious Business, so he's definitely into anime.
This holds true in the world of The Fairly Oddparents. In Fairy Idol, Jorgen refers to Norm as a "filthy genie" without anyone batting an eye, and for a good portion of the series the anti-fairies were kept locked away by the fairies. Simply put, the fairies' society is built on racism. Since they use "good" magic, they inherently believe themselves superior to all other races in the universe, and act as such. They impose their will on other races, governing as they see fit. For example:
- The have humans as godkids because they see them as weak, stupid creatures who would destroy themselves without their guidance. They view humans the way we'd view some endangered spiecies.
- Anti-fairies are viewed as dangerous beasts who would stab you in the back as soon as you turn around. How true this is is an iffy question, since they've been locked up so long that no one remembers what it was like when they were free. The fairies use this interpretation to justify keeping them locked up.
- Pixies are pretty much viewed as creatures with a "wrong" outlook on things, and therefore are to be kept repressed.
- Genies are viewed as always Jackass Genies. Exactly why isn't remembered anymore.
- The Unwished Wishes get it the worst. They are essentially seen as aberrations, and therefore to be kept locked away and ignored.
- Timmy: He's already depressed enough to get fairy godparents.
- Wanda: Because of how Cosmo has been treating her lately season 4-6.
- Any anti-fairy: Because of Anti-Fairy Prision, as examined by the fanfic Dark
- Remy Buxaplenty: Because of the sheer amount of neglect he recieves from his parents.
- Crocker: Because of his Dark and Troubled Past
- Norm: Since he's been imprisoned all his life.
- Tootie: Having to put up with Vicky.
- Alternatively, they and the Fairies are the Spiral Nemesis. Both seem to represent chaos, and are capable of warping reality. The Pixies serve as the Anti-Spirals, as they're trying to repress their chatoic nature.
- Fairy World coexists with the Witch World, and most of the fairies serve as furniture to the Golden Witch. Timmy would be the most affected,since he was a distant relative of the Ushiromiya family, and is a distant cousin of Maria. Jorgen sets up Da Rules, so repeated deaths would not be allowed in Dimmsdale.
- That's not the only similarity. We've got Cosmo and Peter, Wanda and Lois, Foop and Stewie, and Brian and Sparky.
Last of all, The Magic School Bus was cancelled six months before Oh Yeah! Cartoons came about.
Wow, can't believe no one even mentioned them. Super Paper Mario was mentioned in a post below yet no one even mentioned the most significant fairy monarchs in literature. Can we just go back to what's better for us?- This means that the fairy godparents are Mike Nelson, Destroyer of Worlds.
- Anti-Wanda officially isn't; she's too stupid to be evil.
- Even if it's "just a job", it certainly seems to be one they enjoy.
- Plenty of actors who are genuinely nice people love playing villains because it's fun. Same principle.
- Even if it's "just a job", it certainly seems to be one they enjoy.
- They are, however, chaotic. Which, given that the Fairies are supposed to protect mankind makes it worth seperating the Anti-Fairies from the real world.
- Satan is not just Cosmo. Norm, Cosmo and the Anti-Fairies are each an incarnation of Satan. Norm will make his lamp look like a literal hell to convince his master to set him free. The two interpretations of what Satan does in Hell and why he is there both fit Anti-Cosmo. The Man of Wealth and Taste or Wicked Cultured incarnations of Satan are probably Anti-Cosmo or Norm. Some of the Anti-Fairies are the devils.
- That's another reason why fairies are kept secrets is when people react find out that God (Of the Abrahamic religions) never existed, there's no life after death,and it was fairies which made all of it happen. Countless people will Go Mad from the Revelation, religious leaders disband in despair, countless suicides from the despair, and watch more reality shows. Essentially it'll be just like the Crimson Chin's reaction up to eleven.
- A few problems though: 1. It is actually never confirmed which religions exist in the FOP universe. 2. Cupid calls himself the "god of love," which implies that there are other gods, so it's far from impossible that there are other deities and after-life.
Suggested in Happily Ever After by Amras Felagund.
This is not at all a "wild mass guess" because all knight templars really just have a different point of view than other people. The problem is that they take it to such extremes that they force their views on other entities who often are more than willing at least initially to let the templars live their own way. This is exemplified in that the Pixies could easily start their own world.
- Follow It: Norm the Genie concludes you're a uncreative, uncaring jerk.
- Don't Follow It: Depends on how you do it.
- Use your wishes in a way that harms him: he concludes you're a Jerkass or a Psycho for Hire
- Go Crocker with it: he concludes you are crazy and decides he should leave before he loses all sanity
- Wish him free: he concludes you're a nice human and therefore acts a lot nicer
- Use them to benefit him in other ways: same as above, though he may get confused because abused genies don't expect that type of treatment
- Accidental wishes that don't relate to The Three Wish Rule: still, at least thoughtless, if not Jerkass
- Wish more wishes: Might annoy him
Then how he treats you will follow from it. Relates the Guess that is the second below it. Basically, the problem is that everyone is failing the double-blind Secret Test of Character, and they usually are really Jerkasses.
- Wait, and what happens if you try to wish to... Marry him? (You know, I Dream of Jeannie)
- What if you chose multiple options? "I wish you would never harm me directly or indirectly, I wish you would never harm or inconvenience others without my permission, I wish you were free of all magical constraints but my first two wishes"? Would he be cynical enough to assume you are trying to be the Kid With The Remote Control (especially since he'd have to keep you alive and satisfied until he managed to get out of the contract) and try to get back at you in ways that don't violate the first wish or trick/coerce you into being a pawn, happy because he was wished free (with restrictions), or annoyed because he was put on probation instead of released free and clear? I should think that would require continued moderation from who- or whatever put the test in place, if she, he, or it was still watching, which brings me to my next points: Why and by whom is the test, and is Norm being tested too, or just an unknowing tester?
- That much was already made clear with Crocker. Since they had a common goal, Norm didn't bother twisting the wishes. Crocker's plans failed because of bad luck and his usual incompetence.
- Like the Nevermore in Valiant by Holly Black.
- This makes me think of someone shouting for Norm's name, and he poofs into the scene talking to a cell phone.
- ...Hasn't that happened... In canon?
- You're probably thinking of when Norm becomes a fairy godparent due to Cosmo and Wanda quitting in Fairy Idol and after being assigned to Chester, he gives him a button that summons him when pressed.
- ...Hasn't that happened... In canon?
- 1. Cosmo
- 2. Norm the Genie
- 3. Jorgen Von Strangle
- The only reason that Cosmo and Norm have not realized that is that Cosmo is The Ditz and Norm is trapped in Smoof most of the time and enslaved so they don't have the time or opportunity to realize it.
- It makes sense, if we think about that. Cosmo has power enough to make the Great Altantis Crash (and probably our Great Server Crash, too).
- Wish 1: Sandwich/Omelet/Food/Stupid Wish-Gluttony, Avarice, Sloth
- Wish 2: Take Over the World/Trixie Tang loved Timmy Turner/Big Reality Changer-Pride, Lust, Envy, Ambition
- Wish 3: The unwish-Wrath (the humans are angry at the genie)
Adam West has show up in Channel Chasers as a voice on the fairy cab and in a fairy video in Birthday Bashed, and Chip Skylark was in Cosmo's head in Mind Over Magic and at Timmy's birthday party in Fairy World. This is because, like KISS, they are secretly fairy warriors who mantain lives on Earth disguised as humans. In fact, Chip was actually his identical grandfather and father (as seen in The Good Old Days!. They had the purpose of searching the Earth for the Chosen One, which is how Jorgen found Timmy and assigned him Cosmo and Wanda to test if he was truly the one the Cave of Destiny depicted. As time went on, and Timmy got involved with the pixies and anti-fairies, he realized he was.
However, at some point during his mission, Adam West was involved in a great struggle with a dark enemy that broke his mind, driving him insane, which is how he got how he is now.
- Add to the list Britney Britney and Arnold Schwartzgerman. Look at the pictures on the wall of the fairy resteraunt in This Is Your Wish! If you look closely enough, you'll see pictures of these two with crowns floating on their heads. Maybe they're fairy warriors as well?
Simply put, there's more than one Santa. The rotate every two years to keep from being overworked.
- Or Santa is capable of altering his form at will,being a magical creature and all
Look, they both are young kids, they both are able to create things in a abysmal amount of time; they both are being crushed on by a girl with a bit of a stalker atitude. They both have helpers.
Phineas —-> TimmyFerb —-> Wanda/Anti-Cosmo (not Cosmo due to intellgence)Isabella —-> TootieCandace —-> VickiBuford —-> Francis/ChesterBajieet —-> AJVanessa —-> Trixie (due to both being rich and slightly snobby)Doofenshmirtz —-> CrockerPerry —-> Dad (due to being gone most of the time and saving people occasionally)Linda —-> Mom (again, for being gone EVERY DAMNED EPISODE)Suzy —-> Poof (also Older!Poof from School of Crock)Jeremy —> Veronica (For both crushing on simliar characters)Thats a good 50-60% of the cast.
- Then what about Crocker?
- This idea goes better with people with mental disabilities in which they are more likely to act like/have the mentality of a child. The fairies stay longer with them than a "normal" child in order to help the person become a functioning member of society to the best of their (both the kid and the fairy's) ability.
- This is due to the fact that they often forget or do not know of Da Rules, unlike Wanda, Jorgen and others, who know Da Rules better.
- Except this is Norm we're dealing with. Not exactly the nicest being. Plus, he shouldn't really like Timmy, Wanda and Cosmo in the first place.
- Fairies are the physical manifestation of good luck. That's why they grant kids wishes, they are instinctly compelled to do so.
- Anti-Fairies are the physical manifestation of bad luck. Why else would they cause chaos for no reason? It's their biological imperative.
- Children are the target of Fairies because they are more optimistic and believe in luck. Adults are the main target of Anti-Fairies due to being less optimistic than kids.
- While Fairies and Anti-Fairies are both part of chaos (Chaotic Good and Evil), Pixies represent order. That's why they have little to no personality and all talk in the same voice. Fairies look down on them because they're not vibrant of them-Order Versus Chaos. As for why they worked with the Anti-Fairies, it was a splinter group of the Pixies.
- Genies are free agents who use both good and bad luck.
- I remember seeing a butterfly net made of cheese having this effect.
- AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGHHHH
- Hidden to prevent accidental Squick by casual readers.
- In 'The Big Bash' he offers 30 seconds of rule free wishes as a prize like it's nothing.
- In 'The Fairly Oddlympics' he grants Timmy's "wish" for a cheetah even though he's not Timmy's godparent (not too sure about this one, but I think it said somewhere that fairies can't grant wishes to other fairy's god kids).
- Jossed quite thoroughly, when Crocker's godparents (70's Cosmo and Wanda) are revealed to the world, Jorgen and the Fairy MIB show up and erase the memories of every person who was at city hall that day. They're stupid and clueless about the magical world because the magical world works very, very hard to keep it that way.
Analyze much?
Without their wands or figgigly glands, fairies are basically big headed kids that can fly. Without the use of magic, they can't be fully aware of possible butterfly nets that can capture them. Fairies aren't even used to BREATHING, so not being able to use magic is as helpless to them as a human tied to a chair.
Almost all Fairly Odd Parents episodes end with Timmy learning An Aesop. The Aesop is usually a variation of "Your life doesn't need to be filled with magic to be great."
- With the purpose that The Light wishes to END all life...
- Actually, he's one of the last Fairy Warriors.
- If your fairy godparents are revealed, they go away and everyone forgets their existence: back in the day, fairies were common knowledge. However some opportunistic people decided to try and control the fairies with butterfly nets. Thus they decided to keep their existence secret. This culture? Atlantis, and Cosmo was used to eliminate the threat through Obfuscating Stupidity.
- You can't wish to win in a competition or use magic to win a contest: two fairy godchildren ended up in a Lensman Arms Race that turned ugly, destroying Pompeii. Cosmo was stupid enough to comply. This is the same reason why kids can't tell each other they have godchildren.
- You can't interfere with or create true love: someone wished for people to fall in love with him for all the wrong reasons.
- You can't wish for things Pixies and Anti-Fairies do: Pixies and Anti-Fairies have a monopoly on boring magic/bad luck, and the fairies didn't want to increase the already high tensions between them.
- Fairies can't directly kill, maim or injure living beings. Or hit them with a car: Hitler's Time Travel Exemption Act, though not necessarily with time travel. Originally they thought that killing, say, a dictator was okay, but it ended up just making things worse. People kept finding loopholes until Mary Ann came along, and they decided to eliminate all options but "clown on a unicycle." No-one would think of that!
- Nobody can see Anti-Fairies without the use of Anti-Fairy Goggles: the presence of the Anti-Fairies caused a lot of panic, so they were made invisible.
- If kids happen to be dominant instead of adults, Pixies can grant wishes instead of Fairies: a similar scenario to Cue the Flying Pigs occured.
- A child cannot wish to take away the fairies of another child: a method of keeping fairies from screwing over one another.
- Fairies can only grant wishes to miserable children of the dominant species of Earth: Fairies focus on children because they want to fill the void/they think Children Are Innocent. The dominant species rule is because a)there was some other dominant species that was wiped out, b)they didn't want the unpredictable mind of an animal to be capable of wishing or c)another animal managed to get a magic muffin, and they had to make new protocol for this.
- No breakfast wishes after 10:30 AM: the Noodle Incident to end all noodle incidents occured.
- You can't wish for a world without girls: The fairies realized that if you wished away the girls and something kept it that way, the entire human race would go extinct.
- If you try to wish a "lost deed", it would be considered falsifying documents: someone wished a bunch of money for their parent, and they were arrested when they realized the money wasn't legal.
- Tooth-based wishes can only be granted by the Tooth Fairy: she has monopoly in those kind of wishes
- A godchild cannot steal: Do we even need to discuss why?
- A godchild cannot wish dead people back to life: a child wished for a dead family member back to life. Because their wishes are undone afterwards, the wish would end in tears.
The Fairies themselves also directly interferes with human civilization advancement, either intentionally or unintentionally. Cosmo alone caused some events in human history and legends. He sank Atlantis and caused Mt. Vesuvius to explode burying Pompei.
Where do the Anti-Fairies fit in? Well if the Fairies used to be the Seelie, the Anti-Fairies were the Unseelie. The true evil to the mischevous chaos of the Fairies. They aren't as psychopathic as the Unseelie because of the changes to Fairy society; thanks to their Balance Between Good and Evil connection, softening up the fairies into better people also softened up the Anti-Fairies into more of a Cartoonish Supervillainy type of evil than disturbing evil. As for the magic muffin? It's a relic from the old pre Da-Rules days, which is why it isn't bound to any rules...but tastes horrible to discourage any rebellious fairy from subverting Da Rules. As for other magical beings, pixies and genies weren't part of the rule to "soften up" (hence why the fairies think they're all jerks) but they still inherently follow rules of their own like being as buearcratic as possible, and have the three wishes/containment limit.
- That, and lashing out at him because she blames him for "perverting" her.
- I object to this. If we take Rick to be Vicky's father (which is very easy to do), then it would be that Vicky's "lashing out" would not be him perverting her. It would, however, be a sign that she does love Timmy.
- There have been fanfictions actually dealing with this.
- Evidence: Gah. When Timmy was aged-up, she immediately fell madly and openly in love with him.
- Link please.
- http://fairlyoddparents.wikia.com/wiki/Love_at_First_Height
- One should not forget that EVERYONE in the world feel in love with aged-up Timmy. He was THAT sexy!
- Link please.
- Or possibly, love equals pain for Vicky, so all her evil is just misunderstood affection.
Trixie became snobbier towards Timmy in later seasons because of what happened in the episode "Love Struck".
If you remember that episode, Trixie eventually decided to give Timmy a chance and let him be her valentine. But after seeing that Tootie didn't have a valentine, Timmy turned Trixie down and became Tootie's instead. As you might expect, this caused Trixie to be furious towards Timmy for rejecting her. An example of this reasoning can be found in this fic here (link).
Anyway, Trixie Tang developed a grudge against Timmy for breaking her heart in that episode. After all, if someone broke your heart like that after you finally decided to accept them, you would likely be angry, too. So there's no way she's just going to forgive him just like that, not when he hurt her when she was vulnerable.
Sample thought processes: in the episode "Emotion Commotion", when Timmy sites next to Trixie on the bus and she says "I'm ignoring you.", she could be thinking, "Oh, it's that kid that dumped me on Valentines Day. He doesn't deserve another chance." In later seasons, whenever Timmy tries to talk to Trixie, she thinks "He rejected you. Why bother accepting his forgiveness."
And that is why Trixie became more of a Jerkass in later seasons. Timmy blew his chance with her, and it hurt her inside. Maybe once she forgives him and starts accepting Timmy's forgiveness, she'll start to like him again, and everything will be a-okay.
Even more, Trixie still loves him. There are later episodes where Trixie, after warming up to him, seems to have forgiven him. The problem is that Timmy then realizes that Tootie needs help and can't openly turn down someone in need.
- Or maybe is just a really kinky slang.
- "really kinky slang"? Cosmo and Wanda... With the... Wow.
- Most of this makes sense, but the only flaw is what you said how Trixie wants to give the biggest, sloppiest, wettest kiss to Timmy Turner. Remember, Trixie was under Norm's spell, and it made her fall in love with every person in the world named Timmy Turner, including that old guy (Ew.) But maybe she chose Timmy for the "biggest, sloppiest, wettest kiss" for a reason.
And even if she wasn't intending to dump him, there's also the fact that Jorgen was able to pull a Reset Button on their relationship in the first place. Remember how they often said that fairy magic couldn't affect true love? Thus, Trixie's feelings for Timmy in the special were most likely not true; if they were, she wouldn't have been affected by the memory erasure.
- Except that the whole "not interfering with true love" thing doesn't work like that. There was an episode where Vicky fell in love with a guy that was similar to her, and even though he didn't truly love her the magic couldn't affect them because Vicky did love him. If anything, it affected her because keeping the faires a secret is most important above the other rules.
- One-sided, mutual...The point is, just because the erasure affected Trixie's memory of top-secret information doesn't mean it should've affected her supposed feelings for Timmy. Ricky may not have loved Vicky, but she certainly seemed to love him.
This theory probably also explains Tootie's sudden Designated Villain status in "Dread and Breakfast" - the character we're seeing there isn't the real Tootie, but an evil clone created by Trixie as a way of turning Tootie's fans against her.
- And Veronica is a third.
- He did love her, she just didn't reciprocate (except on the occasions he wished for it).
- Jossed by two reasons: 1) Butch Hartman had wroted some Timmy/Trixie episodes as "The Boy Who Would Be Queen" and "For Emergencies Only!" and 2) Butch Hartman himself says than the Live-Action Movie isn't the final of the series...
- Not jossed. Hartman said that because it was leaving room open for a sequel (The Timmy Turner Loophole), something he later confirmed on his twitter account. As far as the Tootie/Trixie issue goes, Hartman's only words on the matter were a short post on his forum which was eventually deleted, his only words (IIRC) being basically "Sorry, we had to make a choice, we wanted everyone to be happy, blah.." and of course that erupted into a small shipping war causing the thread to be deleted and the issue to never be touched upon again.
- Jossed by two reasons: 1) Butch Hartman had wroted some Timmy/Trixie episodes as "The Boy Who Would Be Queen" and "For Emergencies Only!" and 2) Butch Hartman himself says than the Live-Action Movie isn't the final of the series...
Anti-Cosmo and Wanda have much more in common with eachother than Wanda and Cosmo. But how many anti-fairies do you see married, or even living anywhere close to, fairies? There are many cases of Fantastic Racism among fairies and other magical beings, and Anti-fairies are mostly just seen as evil trouble-makers that should be locked away or live far away, so Jorgen could have wiped her mind (as seen in "The Secret Origin of Denzel Crocker") and told her that she would be marrying Cosmo.
- Or they already know, but are pretending not to so Jorgen and his crew never find out.
- Are you psychic? That is almost what happened in "Meet the OddParents!"
- He didn't have a chance because he was a fairy back then and fairies can't harm people.
Also, in "Fairy Idol", he did not go to any cold countries except when summoned there. And he mentioned that his lamp is 'cold and damp' in "Gimme the Wand" despite the fact that he is a slave or that it is made of Smoof would make a better point.
- Though the 'had it too good for too long' has some depth to it, because as one fan says:He, for some reason, wants to destroy Canada believing they've had it all better.
- And considering Norm's circumstances (enslaved to selfish, either indifferent or cruel humans — Timmy included — in a smoof lava lamp), that would make sense. Almost everyone does seem to have it better than Norm. Another reason suggested for him to hate Canada involves him getting hurt by a moose as infant.
- He just hates Canada because he had to watch USA's Sailor Moon dub, and nobody let him watch Canada's. That's why he thinks Canada got it better for too long. You know, Sailor Moon fans can just cringe after knowing they have watched the awful American version for years instead of a better one. Also, he didn't watch the Japanese one because he thought Usagi's original voice was annoying. That's it.
- Thinking that The Messiah has an annoying voice seems typical of Norm. That again proves that Norm has a lot of interests, and none involve being trapped in a lamp. 'Nobody letting him watch Canada's' is typical of well, pretty much the entire cast. But, wouldn't destroying Canada be counterproductive to watching the Canadian Sailor Moon dub? Now, that would be another interesting reason for him not doing it. And in one fanfic, he used Glowing Eyes of Doom which were Supernatural Gold Eyes (yes, their color temporarily changed, though it never happened in Canon) and the thing where the dirt forms a whirlwind that kills people (please link to the trope). He could have learned that from Anime ... or maybe he originated the attack about 50,000 thousand years ago. Still, hating Canada because he never got to see a Sailor Moon dub is a bit extreme; perhaps Sailor Moon dubs and Usagi's annoying voice are Serious Business for Norm.
- Well, the genies in Children of the Lamp are most powerful in warm countries and least powerful in cold ones, maybe the rules for genies in this universe are similar?
- One possibility for the dialog:Guy 1: I wish for the coolest fight possible to occur!Guy 2: Not just possible, the coolest fight that can be imagined!Guy 1: Yeah!Norm: Never heard that wish before. <thinks> This will be a perfect way to kill Turner. Turner will appear in the fight and get killed by CHUCK NORRIS. Chuck Norris is leading cause of death in Turners and politicians. <thinks>
- If the wish for a fight like that did include the Fairly Odd Parents, it would likely have dragged Jorgen, not Timmy in, since on his own, Timmy is relatively weak. Plus, Timmy could just wish to be taken out of the fight before he had to fight anyone.
- Therefore, Butch Hartman hates Norm the Genie and Timmy's other enemies (or their equivalents from his childhood)
- Doesn't this defy the rule about godkids forgetting that they ever had godparents after their service is over?
- Unless he took the Crocker route and left himself a note about it.
- I remember reading that Timmy was named for one of Hartman's younger brothers, so perhaps Timmy Hartman had godparents and Butch somehow learned about it and didn't get mind wiped?
- Actually, Timmy was originally named "Matt" after Butch's brother, but after a fight he changed it to Timmy. So that would be "Matt Hartman."
- Unless he took the Crocker route and left himself a note about it.
- Mind you, this reminds me of a theory I had when I was younger. There's an episode of FOP which involves a 17th century version of Denzel Crocker, who attempts to prove the existence of witches before revealing that he is in fact a witch, which gave me the theory that Crocker may be a fairy, or possibly ex-fairy, that is hellbent on proving the existence of fairies (Re: ex-fairy, it's possible that Crocker was wished into a human long ago in the same vein as the episode "A mile in my shoes" and was never wished back. Since he became a human then it would make sense for him to have fairy godparents). Stupid idea, yes, but as a kid, I thought it plausible.
- Also, in "Stupid Cupid" Sanjay's date to the Romance Dance looks so similar to Timmy that Timmy himself is startled by it.
- Try to or want to Take Over the World?
- No. He knows it won't work because millions of humans have wished to and failed.
- Cross the Moral Event Horizon or Kick the Dog?
- No.
- You mean not directly. His fulfilling wishes literally would include at least a few moments of question morality.
- No.
- Insulted anyone who is clearly lower than him in status?
- Probably not. (Though that assumes that there is someone clearly lower than him in status.)
- Destroyed Canada or the world?
- No. The Canada thing was just a joke, what was discussed under 'Norm the Genie hates the cold'.
- And the world has been answered.
- No. The Canada thing was just a joke, what was discussed under 'Norm the Genie hates the cold'.
- Killed or ate countless people that didn't do anything?
- No.
- Go to The Dark Side of The Force?
- No, this is Fairly Odd Parents.
Also, some of the stuff Timmy does in season 4-6 tempts viewers to take away his godparents, kill him, scold him, give him a Karmic Transformation, hurt him, send him to the Wishing Well again, lock him in a dungeon, etc. Norm likely felt the same way, only a few seasons earlier.
There are also Norm's circumstances to consider. They are the type you'd want to escape, right? The last wish of The Three Wish Rule ('I wish I never met you') is quite cruelly phrased. The book called 'The Stuff of Thought' is about words and phrasing and mentions that type of thing about the subject and object and stuff and how it changes meaning. Saying 'I wish I never met you' suggests that there is something undesirable about Norm, when it is about the results of the wishes. Also there is the Fantastic Racism directed at him by almost everyone. Imagine having people saying that type of things to you every day or something. Boy, that would hurt. Norm also has a vulnerable aspect to him and he has it without losing his awesome. He does think Humans Are Bastards (as shown by his explanation of the The Three Wish Rule) but considering that they were mean to him and one fan mentioned in Anti Villain Discussion, almost everyone on Fairly Odd Parents is an asshole and Norm has never tried to do anything positive or negative regarding human existence or bastardness. I don't think he ever will. However, I doubt a Patrick Stewart Speech would work with this guy. Certainly not if they didn't back it up by say, freeing him. Also, to me, he seems neutral. Like even websites have morally confusing descriptions like this:
- Tired of granting the same lame wishes from lame masters and being trapped in a barely inhabitable lamp, Norm the Genie devises a wicked plan to become a fairy godparent.
Kinda makes you wonder what side in Norm Good-Neutral-Evil Debate the website is on though, if its an official site it will think (or pretend to think) he's Evil. Also, both the characterizations can be used in Fan Work and still be in character. In fact, I think these Characterization Tags would be good to describe Norm in stories involving him:
Just because they can describe some of the ways he is and can be written. For some reason, most of the best fanfic involving him has Norm not-evil or evil till set free, at which he becomes good or neutral. Fic with Neutral!Norm tends to retain and understand his character more, for some reason. Also, Evil!Norm fic also sometimes turns him into Evil!MotiveDecayed!Norm which is what I fear might happen in Canon if he gets more eps. For some reason, Evil!MotiveDecayed!Norm fic can be very Narmy. Like, what he thinks in those fics could probably be summarized as "I want to escape my lamp and get revenge on Timmy, look shiny stuff, Turner, you are/have insert undesirable quality here, hey wait, I just had a great idea, how about I lose my motives and rule the world just for the sake of it, despite it being a stupid idea. Yeah, and rules suck! And then I shall Derail myself for no reason what-so-ever. I am the most powerful being ever!" Okay, maybe not exactly like that but real close.
Suggested in Norm's Story by x-Oscena-x and several other Norm fics.
- Also, the whole Jorgen = God, Cosmo = Satan theories would make sense.
- Alternatively, someone else with fairies meddled in the past and caused Nixon to win. For all we know, the point in time from which the meddler originated may not have even happened yet.
- Maybe the reason wishes can't be used to win something is because someone meddled with the election and the fallout of Watergate led them to make it a rule. After all, an election could be seen as a form of contest.
- Cosmo and his mother have the same first name indicating Cosmo must be a "Junior"
- Only male fairies have babies, yet Cosmo has a mother.
- It could be that Cosmos's dad died during childbirth. Since it's a kid's show, they don't really talk about it.
- Jossed: Cosmo's dad was seen in a video alongside Cosmo's mother, with a baby Cosmo in This Is Your Wish!
- Yeah, Cosmo turned his dad into a fly, he flew away and wasn't seen again. Remember, it was stated by Wanda in "Fairly Odd Baby" that fairies are immortal so he can't be dead.
- Fairies can be killed, at least by powerful magic (see: tales of ancient 'fairy wars').
- Jossed: Cosmo's dad was seen in a video alongside Cosmo's mother, with a baby Cosmo in This Is Your Wish!
- Alternatively, they have each others' body parts from that You-doo doll incident.
- Possibly it was a result of the events of "The Boy who would be queen". Cosmo secretly decided to stay female after not receiving a reply on whether or not a guy could make himself more attractive.
- He was telling the truth when he announced he's "keeping them".
- This troper wouldn't know where to begin cleaning this WMG up.
- This troper's had a crack at the formatting. Someone who actually watches the show needs to do the rest.
- This troper's opinion? Go to a Replika, activate every Tower you find there, and use the resulting energy to nuke this article out of existance (or as Uncyclopedia calls it, "huffing" the article). Or better yet, use a local RTTP to revert this page to a not-crappy version. (Though maybe you should backup this article onto Uncyclopedia before you destroy its Main tower and cause it to explode.)
Timmy: I wish this WMG wasn't a load of Uncyclopedia-grade nonsense!JeremyCosmo: Return to the past now! Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!* poof*[[UncyclopediaSyntaxer {{Template:Rewrite|ermey}}]]- Or just have Trope-tan set us up the bomb for this page...
- Would anyone object to me deleting any entries that have no explination (just the header, no text underneath)?
- No need, I found a compromise (folderization for the win). As much as I hate unexplained guesses, outright deletion or removal without a backup option is worse (these can be moved to "WMG/FairlyOddparentsDiscussion" if they absolutely must be removed from the page). Also fixed up some formatting and typographical errors.
- I moved another one to the folder. The thing was never really explained. So, now that this page has been cleaned, can we delete this one, or move it to the discussion page?
- This troper's had a crack at the formatting. Someone who actually watches the show needs to do the rest.
- Dinglebird? * dies laughing* It's Dinkleberg, not Dinglebird. Must add your paragraph to my lulz collection.
- * Sigh* I misheard the pronunciation okay?
- Dinglebird? * dies laughing* It's Dinkleberg, not Dinglebird. Must add your paragraph to my lulz collection.
- I saw A Wish Too Far! recently, and Trixie does mention her mother. So...either her father remarried briefly and Trixie, hoping to get a new mother, tried calling her Mom. It didn't work. Or, for a darker theory, Trixie claims to have a mother in order to keep up a perfection facade. She wants to be seen as perfect, so she pretends to have a perfect family.
- Someone should write a fanfic based on this theory.
- That puts a whole new light on the episode where Timmy wishes Vicky's age down and becomes her babysitter.
- Nice aversion of Rape Is Okay When Its Female On Male too. ...oh great, this is just asking for a Dark Fic revealing that the Fairies are just hallucinations... or not, and they're just as bad...
- Satisfaction guaranteed! (This is obviously NSFW.) This was made by me, for your information.
- You say as if you're proud of it.
- Actually, according to the Diagnostic Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders", people can be diagnosed as pedophiles as young as 16 years old''. If you put aside the obvious squick and look into many prominent child predators, you will find that they had many instances throughout their childhood and teen years that were red flags for predatory behavior.
- In many cases, if not all of them, the power rush that comes with such abuse comes first, and young children - younger than the abuser, if he/she is still underage themselves - are the easiest victims; what initially triggers predatory behavior becomes associated with enjoyment and sexual pleasure, essentially a full-blown paraphilia. It wouldn't be difficult to read it into Vicky's behavior, particularly when you consider the reactions of the other kids she's babysat. For the people who are into that sort of thing.
- Satisfaction guaranteed! (This is obviously NSFW.) This was made by me, for your information.
- Isn't her evilness too over the top for that? Think about it.
- You make Norm sound like Timmy. This troper doesn't understand why Norm would wish himself popular if he could (kinda) get it himself? Young Norm probably was like a genie version of Timmy, if you think about. They are both impulsive (to a certain extent), jerkasses, like gals that look beautiful (even if the gals are shallow), were/are abused (Norm by his masters, Timmy by Vicky and Crocker), they both have low attention spans, attract gals etc. So when I love Norm, it is just his wish that is giving me those thoughts so I am not thinking them myself or something like that, is that what you are saying (I'd really hate to not be the thinker of my own thoughts)? Does the wish give him some sort of glamour or is his natural charm just turned up 100x? Does it work on everyone or just a select few? Does Norm know our world is affected by this wish? Does Norm the Genie desire sex with the fangirls he's created? Can this wish get unwished or is irreversible? What will Norm become in our eyes if it gets reversed? If he is popular, why hasn't anyone set him free yet? Is there a smarter wish that Norm could made? Sorry for all the questions, but whenever I read about an intriguing concept like this, I start wondering how exactly it would work and start breeding entire litters of plotbunnies. I'd love it if there was a fanfic on this concept, one for the Tootie only loves the idea of Timmy, one for Tootie planned almost everything and any other fanfic-able WMGs.
- "...if he could get it himself?" Under the premise of the WMG, he wouldn't have been able to. "So when I love Norm, it is just his wish..." It could be anything from a mild compulsion that couldn't make the subject go against his or her nature to full-on mind control, based on precedent. If there are no sparkles or puffs of smoke around peoples heads before they say "I love Norm" as a complete non-sequitur, it's probably more toward the mild compulsion/charm x100 end of the scale. "Does it work on everyone..." Probably just enough to make him popular, since it is a genie wish. "Does Norm know..." Probably not. Depends on how broken his fourth wall is. "Does Norm the Genie desire sex with the fangirls he's created?" Do FOP genies even have sex? (Don't answer that. And Barbara Eden.) "...irreversible?" Any (non-magic-goes-away wish can be cancelled with enough creativity. "What will Norm become..." Either Genie Timmy or Draco in Purple Funnel-cloud Pants, based on individual fans' preference. "...why hasn't anyone set him free yet?" Popularity is not the same as control over individuals. Also, it adds more weight to the "mild compulsion/charm x100" theory. "Is there a smarter wish..." Yes. There is always a smarter wish. Interesting questions. This troper's curiosity has been piqued as to the possibility of a fanfic expanding on this...
- Also, did Norm just want popularity or did he want to use the popularity to escape his lamp? Why would his master give him a wish anyway? Thanks for answering.
- Possibly his master at this time was some sort of fangirl that likes shirtless dudes. Who knows?
- Or just not a jerk (see: Aladdin).
- You make Norm sound like Timmy. This troper doesn't understand why Norm would wish himself popular if he could (kinda) get it himself? Young Norm probably was like a genie version of Timmy, if you think about. They are both impulsive (to a certain extent), jerkasses, like gals that look beautiful (even if the gals are shallow), were/are abused (Norm by his masters, Timmy by Vicky and Crocker), they both have low attention spans, attract gals etc. So when I love Norm, it is just his wish that is giving me those thoughts so I am not thinking them myself or something like that, is that what you are saying (I'd really hate to not be the thinker of my own thoughts)? Does the wish give him some sort of glamour or is his natural charm just turned up 100x? Does it work on everyone or just a select few? Does Norm know our world is affected by this wish? Does Norm the Genie desire sex with the fangirls he's created? Can this wish get unwished or is irreversible? What will Norm become in our eyes if it gets reversed? If he is popular, why hasn't anyone set him free yet? Is there a smarter wish that Norm could made? Sorry for all the questions, but whenever I read about an intriguing concept like this, I start wondering how exactly it would work and start breeding entire litters of plotbunnies. I'd love it if there was a fanfic on this concept, one for the Tootie only loves the idea of Timmy, one for Tootie planned almost everything and any other fanfic-able WMGs.
- Same initials and everything.
- Alternately they were teleported into the point in the future Timmy would want to undo the wish. Cosmo and Wanda know him well enough at that point the wish'll eventually backfire.
Add to that, when Timmy breaks up with her, that means, as far as she knows, she'll spend the rest of her life all alone. That would explain her psychotic behavior in that episode.
- Supported in "Country Clubbed" and "Jerk of All Trades". In the former, Remy didn't even seem to notice Timmy or talk to him directly (excluding the part where Timmy was disguised), and Juandissimo was nowhere to be found. In the latter, Juandissimo was charged to enforce Da Rules. Why would the Fairy Council give him that job if they knew he had a godkid to look after?
- Makes sense, seeing how fairies can heal themselves with magic, as explained by Cosmo in an episode I cannot recall at the moment.
- Also, remember "No substitute for Crazy"? Apparently, the magic (in the form of fairy dust) can even spread onto Timmy's friends. He hadn't even hung out with Chester, AJ, or Elmer within the last three days. Just Sanjay. Yet they were all "prime suspects."
- Implication EVERYONE Timmy has been around enough has probably absorbed some. His parents have been blown out of a building when a rocket launched inside (Admittedly Poof might have restrained the damage from blastoff, but still), Crocker has been mauled by large cats and fallen from heights, probably absorbing huge levels of magic from being wished into a fairy (However temporarily), Vicky cannot possibly be getting all this stuff normally, etc. Also, when a sufficient level of fairy magic has been absorbed, that person tends to be able to poof up cartoon-level summons or such, such as hiding behind overly thin objects, acquiring a razor out of nowhere, being able to mess with physics every now and then, etc. etc. Yugopotamian alien tech probably suffered this effect a while back from whatever happened in Wishology's prehistory and when Poof visited, explaining how the Fakeifier is insanely effective on a practically magical level without messing with mass or actual form too much.
- Makes sense, seeing how fairies can heal themselves with magic, as explained by Cosmo in an episode I cannot recall at the moment.
Mark noted that the cave inscription in Wishology Part II was written in Yugopotamian. Obviously, the Yugopotamians must have been there before. They lived on Earth back in prehistoric times, possibly evolving from squids. They had a partnership with the fairies of some nature. However, as the Yugopotamians got more and more ruthless, they eventually broke the partnership and attacked the fairies. Jorgen responded by wiping their memories and banishing them to Yugopotamia.
- Therefore, Yugopotamians are Elder Things.
Mark is able to read the Yugopotamian writing mentioned above despite it being anchient. The Yugopotamians, like the government in Nineteen Eighty-Four, has restriction on their writing and language to repress free thought.
- And furthermore, he went so overboard because he is a sadist and something is deeply wrong with him.
- This Troper’s headcanon is that Fairies use this method (though not to the extent shown here) to keep children from wishing themselves away. Timmy’s not the first to try it.
Suggested here (for Tootie fans) and here (for Trixie fans).
- If this theory is true, it must mean Anti-Cosmo is slowly turning into a Jerk with a Heart of Gold...
- A much less ickier take on this is that Tootie had fairies and she revealed their existence if the Birthday episode is anything to go by. Yes, she is apparently keeping Timmy's secret as an adult according to the live action movie but she is also thirteen years older so she is much more mature and thus better able to keep a secret as an adult.
- That episode had two things: One, Cosmo and Wanda never told her Da Rules and never tried to stop her from spilling the secret, something Timmy almost did when he first met them. Two, Crocker was there throughout the episode egging her on to do it. Also, if Tootie had lost her fairy, why would she be allowed to be loaned one again in the first place? I don't take Jorgen for being one to give out second chances.
- Tootie didn't want to tell anyone about her fairies until after they gave her a good birthday. Her first action when getting fairies was to wish for tons of girly stuff... Soo... No.
- There was another Oh Yeah Cartoon short with Timmy at one of Tootie's Birthday parties.
- Alternate theory: Vicky and Tootie are half-sisters. They both have the same father and different mothers. One mother (Nicky from the FOB video games) is Vicky and her brother's mother, while the other (who more resembles Tootie) is Tootie's mother. Nicky and Vicky's dad divorced and Vicky's dad remarried.
- Well.... we did see in The Mighty B! how they figured out Bessie Higgenbottom's middle name ( Kajolica, which was actually a cursed name) and the repercussions it had on the people of San Francisco.
- Maybe Vicky had a sadistic babysitter as well. As Adults Are Useless, they failed to realise her babysitter only took the job to abuse children. This warped her perception, and decided to take it out on kids. The reason why she had no fairy godparents is that this babysitter made her later actions seem kind in comparison, and no fairy wanted to deal with the psychological mess.
- This may be semi-confirmed by the live action movie because in it, Timmy has deliberately been acting like a ten year old for thirteen years, this would put the year when he received Cosmo and Wanda as 1998
- Timmy travelled back in time to the '90's and saw his parents. They were buying his house and he was "still in [his] mother's tummy."
- There were Clinton/Gore '92 bumper stickers on a car in the background, meaning Timmy came from 2002, thus proving this theory.
- This would explain why he was replaced by Foop; Anti-Cosmo knew too much to be kept around. So in his final appearance (the brownie episode), he tried acting more like Foop in order to stay alive. It didn't work...
- Jossed. According to an interview with the shows creator Butch Hartman The Live-Action movie ísn't the end of the series....
- I think Butch Hartman was vague in that interview, and for good reason. One, the movie wasn't even closed to finished then, and in the time that interview was conducted to the time the movie comes out, Hartman may have be thinking that FOP will be renewed for more episodes. As it stands, there are only six new episodes in production along with the new movie, and no new episodes have been ordered for almost two years. I suspect this is a Danny Phantom/Phantom Planet issue, if the show doesn't get picked up further then it will end at the live action movie, even if Hartman insists there is more to come (like he still hopelessly does with DP).
- Nope, dude. Butch Hartman was precise than DP ended after the Grand Finale.
- I think Butch Hartman was vague in that interview, and for good reason. One, the movie wasn't even closed to finished then, and in the time that interview was conducted to the time the movie comes out, Hartman may have be thinking that FOP will be renewed for more episodes. As it stands, there are only six new episodes in production along with the new movie, and no new episodes have been ordered for almost two years. I suspect this is a Danny Phantom/Phantom Planet issue, if the show doesn't get picked up further then it will end at the live action movie, even if Hartman insists there is more to come (like he still hopelessly does with DP).
- This argument may very well be valid. Mrs. Crocker has never specifically DENIED the existence of fairies. The only thing she's ever said is that her son is a crackpot for chasing them and has wasted his life chasing them, in the recent episode Crocker of Gold. She may have meant that he could have better things to do than chase fairies. The fact he fails so much in catching them would add weight to that.
- Entirely possible, the Jimmy/Timmy Power Hour crossovers have shown that alternate realities exist, and multiple timelines are shown to exist as well.
- Isn't that the point of The Multiverse?
If you think that the 4th and 5th seasons take place after the first three, presumably Vicky may have started out babysitting for Timmy but had to keep away from torturing him because she thought his parents might get angry at her. But when it became apparent that Timmy's parents were ignorant enough to keep her babysitting for him despite being a jerk, she decided that it'd be a good time to start bringing the implements of torture to Timmy's house...
- A Gender Bent Timmy (or"Timantha")from another dimension. Either he messed up big time and Wanda decided that it was a fitting punishment or he simply wanted a new life as Timantha. Either way, Timantha (or Kimmy) was transported to another universe with a preexisting Timmy (and a possible mind wipe).
- Alternatively she is a variant Timmy Clone.
- Gentlemen, I'd like you to be introduced to Timmy's Secret Wish. (Seriously, WISHING THE WHOLE TOWN TO NEVER AGE 50 YEARS AGO?! That's actually cruel!
- He explained his wish in the end on why he did it. It was just that he didn't want to lose Cosmo, Wanda and Poof for being his family and that he didn't care about the wishes, just them. And I think that he did wish for the whole town to never age is to not give them any suspicion of Timmy and his fairies.
In "Christmas Every Day," he states that Chet Ubetcha is "cute when he's angry." He also likes Chip Skylark, and is seen to have hearts next to his head listening to Chip's music.
We know that Timmy doesn't really plan ahead or think things through before he wishes UNLESS his back is against the wall or something truly important is at stake. When the situation is truly dire, he can pull off some rather impressive stunts and quick thinking. "Abra-catastrophy," "Channel Chasers," "Fairly Oddbaby," "Fairy Idol," "Wishology," and essentially any other special have examples of him demonstrating an impressive amount of competence when compared to his usual impulsive behavior. If something he cares about is in danger (Cosmo, Wanda, Poof, his parents, his friends, all of Fairy World and/or all of Earth, etc.), he'll start demonstrating exactly why he's survived so long when he has so many enemies, magical and mundane. Even limiting his access to magic (see Wishology pt 1) and taking away any friend or ally he might possess (see Wishology pt 2) can't stop this kid when he actually focuses on his goal.
What does this have to do with Norm? I'm getting there. Well, the recent special "Timmy's Secret Wish", we learn that Timmy wished that everyone stopped aging (and wishing for Cosmo to forget he granted that wish) and he made that wish 50 years ago. While this is certainly not the most considerate wish for everyone else on the planet, it shows a certain cleverness on his part. Rather than accept a very obvious threat to his happiness (growing up and losing his fairies), he figured out a way remove that variable the equation and didn't let anyone know since they would try talking him out of it (obviously the wish itself wasn't against Da Rules or else the wands would have done the "pfff" noise instead of granting it). Timmy found a loophole, essentially. If it hadn't been a secret wish, Timmy would probably not have gotten into nearly as much trouble with the Fairy Council. When this caused Timmy to lose his fairy godparents (temporarily), it resulted in all of his wishes being undone. Including Poof.
Granted, everything was fixed by the end of the show, but it certainly demonstrated a real danger that even Timmy at his worst couldn't possibly ignore permanently. If his fairy god-brother's very existence will be reversed whenever he either does something stupid to lose his fairies or simply grows up, then something needs to be done. As established already, Timmy can be fairly clever and resourceful when something he cares about is on the line and he can figure ways around Da Rules occasionally. And, as shown in "Wishology pt 2," he's not afraid to work with his enemies if the situation is important enough. Which brings us back to Norm.
If he wishes for a lawyer from Cosmo and Wanda first (likely without explaining why he wants one since they would be nervous about Timmy working with a genie), he can get his "rule-free" wishes prepared and "twisted horribly"-proof. Then, he tells his fairy godparents that he wishes for Norm's lamp. At this point, he'd be dealing with quite a few comments that dealing with the genie is a bad idea and a sarcastic remark or two from Norm, but a little thing like that won't stop the kid. His first genie wish would be to protect a few key wishes from being undone whenever he loses his fairies (Poof, keeping Mark Chang from marrying Princess Man-Die in order to form an unstoppable alliance between their planets, making sure that the Darkness remains the Kindness, etc.). His second and third wish are more flexible, but the ideal ones that he would make (if he was feeling particularly kind and unselfish that day) would be these two. His second wish would be that Norm couldn't harm, humiliate, or destroy Timmy, his friends, his family, Canada, and any of Timmy's non-enemies aquantances, either directly or indirectly. Undoubtedly this would frustrate the genie. The third one, however, would make it up to the guy. As a reward for helping him (and a peace offering so that Norm didn't try to seek some type of revenge anyway), Timmy could wish for the only thing that Norm seems to really want. The third wish could be to free the genie from his lamp.
This set of wishes would protect those that Timmy cares about, possibly reduce the malice of one of his enemies towards him, and there would be nothing that Jorgen could do about it since Genies don't have to follow any rules and are not under his jurisdiction at all.
- Sounds like that Angel Cop had something to do with this...
- So...does that mean Timmy's Dad is an anti-Semite?
But boils don't tend to be self-aware entities, so there has to be a reason why this one can speak to Elmer. Bob is not actually a boil. Instead, he is an Eldritch Abomination in a different dimension who can only reach through to dimensional barriers in a limited fashion. Specifically, he can only possess the boil upon Elmer's face and attempt to influence the world through that source. If Timmy should ever decide to be nice and wish that Elmer didn't have a boil on his face, this would offer Bob the ability to take his true form in their world and go forth with his world conquering plans.
- Or at least Norm McDonald.
- Here's how it will suck harder:
- ) The series will be animated in Adobe Flash, becoming just as stiff and jerky as Johnny Test.
- ) More obnoxious new characters will be added by the dozens.
- ) Some of the actors will leave.
- ) The violence will get more brutal.
- Why would Timmy's full name be Timothy Tiberius Turner? Timothy comes from Butch Hartman's bro, Tiberius comes from James T. Kirk, and Turner...... Well didn't Butch work for Hanna-Barbera once? And didn't Ted Turner's company own H-B until the company was acquired by Time Warner? Well, you get the point, right?
- Timmy himself said that he is willing to put up with Vickys abuse so long as it ment he would never lose Cosmo and Wanda, and we also that he made a secret wish that everyone would stay the same age for over 50 years so he could keep them. So it's not impossible that he made a wish or another secret one that everyone would become worse versions of themselves so he could be sure his life never became too bareable that he would lose Cosmo and Wanda. It would also explain how everything slowly became more cartoony (Read: crap-sack) and how people like Vicky and Crocker got stuff like mid-evil touture devices and an entire fairy hunting lap under the school when before the worst they could do was black mail or set up crude 'traps' respectively. Unfortunately, he forgot to exclude himself, Cosmo, and Wanda form being affected by the wish...
- Maybe he hasn't. Timmy has likely mentally scarred when learning that everything would be better off without his existence, and coping with his life for 50 YEARS-well, it's a miracle he hasn't gone insane. As for Cosmo and Wanda, they must be sensing that something is very wrong, causing them to degenerate in personality.
- Alternative idea-the flanderization is a side-effect of no-one aging for 50 years. Since the flow of time is being messed up, people aren't able to develop, causing their personalities to degenerate.
- It also explains why Cosmo is so obsessed with nickels.
- The entire armadillo population is magicproofed to some extent due to armor.
- Dark Laser has magicproof shields.
- Yugopotamia was involved with fairies at some point in time, although how much is unclear due to Mark varying how much he knows on fairies.
- Crocker is apparently messing with something, but how is unclear.
- Canonicity of certain episodes is bulldozed and restored on a moment's notice.
- There are hundreds of Reset Buttons strewn about, such as the schoolday bell at fairy school and AJ's time machine.
- Poof was able to fix massive damage magically when he farted from an overpowered burrito.
- The Darkness was wished out by kindness.
- Ancient Yugopotamian was in the emergency wand storage around a certain secondary destiny cave, implying this has been going on for a long long time, or the fairies did some serious civilization uplifting on Yugopotamia.
- During FLARG's Goodbye day, Mark was able to target and shoot Fairyworld.
- Timmy has shown his fairies to Mark Chang and other Yugopotamians with no issues, and Mark has displayed knowledge of how they work to some extent that would spring "Fairy godparents discovered! You lose them, Timmy!" to anyone else.
- Timmy's children later on have Cosmo and Wanda, but because Poof is both older and Timmy's children are supposedly less messed with (Having parents who are slightly less horrible and a babysitter which can be stopped with lethal or nonlethal force magically or otherwise without issue), Poof could go to daycare or something instead of being on-site all the time.
- First is where neither Poof nor Sparky existed in Channel Chasers since neither of them appeared in the epilogue - Timmy loses his fairies and becomes a mature adult with a family of his own. Although it could be possible that Poof grew up and took Sparky with him when he moved out. But for the argument's sake, let's put it there.
- Second is where only Poof existed, that's where the three live action films come into play. note The fairy shortage and Chloe's introduction could also fit here.
- Third is where both Poof and Sparky existed. This comes into play in "Let Sleeper Dogs Lie", in which Crocker as a child had Sparky in addition to Cosmo and Wanda. In the future, Sparky will stupidly expose the fact that Timmy has fairies, leading to him and the others being taken away and Timmy becoming a fairy-obsessed lunatic like Crocker. Pretty similar to the events of "The Secret Origin of Denzel Crocker!".
If either the buy-out or wish-fixer plans worked on their own, the pixies could discard the rest of their 37-year plan as unnecessary. But if they failed by Timmy's hand, which they did, they'd have their second-pawn conditioned and ready to turn against the adults. Unfortunately for them, their conditioning worked a little too well.
- Confirmed. They appeared in "Booby Trapped".
- He's basically done this by the end of "The Big Fairy Share Scare", as after that episode, he seems to have pretty much accepted her into his life.
- According to insider sources, the intro used for Season 10 was supposedly done last minute after being requested by the network (This is why the new opening seems so rushed; it was). It is unlikely that the Fairy Shortage is going to be mentioned again (like how Timmy being totally against Chloe sharing fairies with him was basically resolved by the end of the Season 10 premiere, despite being in the opening). If there is a Season 11 and/or Chloe returns, expect there to be a redone opening much closer to the classic one.
- One possibility for the dialog:Axl Rose: I WISH FOR THE ULTIMATE ANIMATED SERIES!Hulk Hogan: Make it be about a boy with 10 sisters, brother!Billy Mays: I'LL GIVE YOU THE DETAILS ON HOW IT SHOULD BE ULTIMATE, FOR ONLY $19.99! JUST PAY SHIPPING AND HANDLING!Norm: Never heard that wish before. <thinks> This will be a perfect way to kill Turner. Turner will appear in the cartoon and get his cancelled for this new one. Harem shows are leading cause of death in Turners and politicians. <thinks>
- Possible choices for a new Trixie voice:
- Lauren Tom (her voice would be similar to Amy Wong)
- Kelly Hu (her voice would be similar to Stacy Hirano, albeit in a higher tone)
- Grey DeLisle (she'll try to closely imitate Dionne Quan's voice)
- Jessie Flower (her voice would be similar to Toph)
Why not? It's no worse than introducing one character for no reason immediately after doing the same thing with the previous season.
Second, there's "Information Stuporhighway", where Crocker is judged for a video of himself cross-dressing.
Dimmsdale is the modern suburban equivalent of 1930's rural Arkansas, where LGBT people never come out, get into relationships, or transition. Also, gender nonconformists are shamed into fitting their birth roles.
My guess is that they made a mistake when removing Timmy's emotions, and removed his common sense instead of his boredome, or whatever emotion covers boredome, lke disgust or something.
This is also why his common sense wasn't returned when Timmy undid the wish. Timmy wish to get his "Emotions" back, common sense is not an emotion and was therefore not effected by the counter-wish.