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Angel is one of the producers of a metafictional ''Big O'' TV series. She fell in love with the character of Roger Smith (or else the actor was her real-life boyfriend), and so she had herself [[AuthorAvatar inserted into the show.]] The world-famous filmmaker they hired to be the director (who plays Gordon Rosewater -- the role was originally intended to just be a {{cameo}}) gets frustrated with her meddling and starts to make the show more of a Main/MindScrew [[SpringtimeForHitler in hopes of getting it canceled.]]

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Angel is one of the producers of a metafictional ''Big O'' TV series. She fell in love with the character of Roger Smith (or else the actor was her real-life boyfriend), and so she had herself [[AuthorAvatar inserted into the show.]] The world-famous filmmaker they hired to be the director (who plays Gordon Rosewater -- the role was originally intended to just be a {{cameo}}) cameo gets frustrated with her meddling and starts to make the show more of a Main/MindScrew [[SpringtimeForHitler in hopes of getting it canceled.]]
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** Not necessarily proof against, but in Episode 4, we see the lens over his left eye is cracked and a similar spiraled pupil is visible behind it. It may be something like a monocle- or it could a glass case to protect the lense.
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A third season would have revealed all of this. Roger's final enemy would have been himself- a Roger from a previous iteration, cynical and angry, who has decided the only "free" action is to end the world even if it kills everyone else. Roger would struggle with his own desire for independence and his responsibility to the city, before meeting with the machine god to negotiate again for a better world.

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A third season would have revealed all of this. Roger's final enemy would have been himself- a Roger from a previous iteration, cynical and angry, who has decided the only "free" action is to end the world even if it kills everyone else. Roger would struggle with his own desire for independence and his responsibility to the city, before meeting with the machine god to negotiate again for a better world.world.

[[WMG: In a third season, Angel would have been the new leader of Paradigm.]]
In the last shots of Season 2, the book ''Metropolis'' is written by ''Angel'' Rosewater. She would have used her powers to give herself and Paradigm City something of a happy ending, as opposed to Alex's attempt to [[AGodAmI rule as god.]] Part of the conflict would involve Angel exploring her powers- she knows she has them, but has no idea how or why she does.
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A third season would have revealed all of this. Roger's final enemy would have been himself- a Roger from a previous iteration, cynical and angry, who has decided the only "free" action is to end the world even if it kills everyone else. Roger would struggle with his own desire for independence and his responsibility to the city, before meeting with the machine god to negotiate again.

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A third season would have revealed all of this. Roger's final enemy would have been himself- a Roger from a previous iteration, cynical and angry, who has decided the only "free" action is to end the world even if it kills everyone else. Roger would struggle with his own desire for independence and his responsibility to the city, before meeting with the machine god to negotiate again.again for a better world.

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Whether human or android or something else, Roger is THE negotiator. He was the one who convinced the machine god to try and fix the world, and he impressed both it and Big O, who acts as his partner. Angel is a human recently created by the machine god to get a human's perspective on Paradigm City, since so far the god is struggling with its task. She has full freedom to choose her role on earth and is unaware of her higher purpose. She's partnered with Big Venus, the machine god's executioner- or big reset button, if you prefer.

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Whether human or android or something else, Roger is THE negotiator. He was the one who convinced the machine god to try and fix the world, and he impressed both it and Big O, who acts as his partner. Angel is a human recently created by the machine god to get a human's perspective on Paradigm City, since so far the god is struggling with its task. She has full freedom to choose her role on earth and is unaware of her higher purpose. She's partnered with Big Venus, the machine god's executioner- or big Big reset button, if you prefer.prefer.

A third season would have revealed all of this. Roger's final enemy would have been himself- a Roger from a previous iteration, cynical and angry, who has decided the only "free" action is to end the world even if it kills everyone else. Roger would struggle with his own desire for independence and his responsibility to the city, before meeting with the machine god to negotiate again.
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[[WMG: Dorothy isn't programmed to be ThreeLawsCompliant.]]
More explicitly in the manga, but focused on in one episode, all of the official androids are meant to be unable to harm humans. Occasionally you get a rogue machine or a programmed assassin, but these are outliers.

Dorothy, however, was built by her creator to be as human as possible, since she's a ReplacementGoldfish. Everyone assumes she's programmed with limitations- maybe even Dorothy herself- but she is as free as any human to do as she pleases- but since she's a hero, she doesn't want to kill anybody. This combination of Memory tech and free will is what draws megadeuses to her, since they can sense her unusual nature.
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[[WMG: roger and dorthy are the only 2 people who are real every one else are just characters in a play the 2 are acting out]]

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[[WMG: The Universe of Big O is at once real and a complete fabrication.]]
More specifically, to mortals it's as real as can be, but a higher power builds it up and tears it down as it sees fit.

At the beginning of the Big O universe, humans- probably Gordon Rosewater and Paradigm- cracked the code to reality. They figured out how to manipulate space-time as they saw fit- and being ordinary humans with limited vision, destroyed the world as we know it. At least human civilization, possibly far greater damage than they could perceive. But- something of humanity survived. The reality machine that Rosewater's company built became something of a god, and it used its power to try and repair the world it broke by being born.

This machine god isn't evil or hostile, but it's struggling to comprehend human existence. Not so much a human with an antfarm as Cthulhu with a people farm, it's trying to rebuild the world, but as powerful as it is it can only do so much. It can provide food and energy sources, but it doesn't know how to make humans get along and might not even realize there's a problem. That endless desert outside Paradigm is real, as are those ruins, but they're just the machine god imitating previous structures. In a future world, they may be replaced by forest or even other human civilizations.

The megadeuses are a varied breed. The Bigs themselves are similar to angels, divine servants of the machine god's will. They're not evil, but they aren't innately good, and they need human partners to properly fulfill their divine mission. And if the human is convincing enough, like Schwarzwald, the Big will go rogue. The other megadeuses are either man-made and thus weaker, or monsters born time and again from the chaos, a mix of all that came before, with their own agendas. The Bigs primary mission is to protect humans and their world from these creatures. Paradigm City itself is a kludge, a mix of New York as it was and bits of reality the machine god is tinkering with. Those stage lights and titanic machinery may serve a purpose, or they could be copies of human machines the god is imitating, or it could be as simple and silly as the machine god needing something to fill in that hole over there.

The humans and androids are real enough, but they're recreated from the machine god's memories. Occasionally, they have capital-M Memories, pieces of the world as it was or Memories of a previous reiteration of the world. People like Beck, Norman and Dorothy all have these, and their Memories allow them to alter the world on a greater scale. They may have been designed like this, or the machine god may be recreating past mortals who impressed it somehow.

Gordon Rosewater has his Memories. He may be the only original human left, and he's trapped in a hell of his own creation. Gordon tried to become God, but is stuck as the patriarch of a crumbling city with an aging mortal body. He was one of the most powerful humans alive, but with a human's power- limited to money and ordering other humans around- and a human's weaknesses, like dementia and TheFogOfAges. That book Metropolis was written by Gordon in a previous iteration of Paradigm, not the Gordon of the modern Paradigm. Alex is an attempt by a younger and more active Gordon to clone himself and recover all of the lost knowledge he'd forgotten from previous Paradigms, with mixed success. The other Tomatoes are similar projects, but a few of them may be relics of a previous Paradigm as well. Whatever Gordon had planned, by the time of the show he's too old and weak to carry it out.

Whether human or android or something else, Roger is THE negotiator. He was the one who convinced the machine god to try and fix the world, and he impressed both it and Big O, who acts as his partner. Angel is a human recently created by the machine god to get a human's perspective on Paradigm City, since so far the god is struggling with its task. She has full freedom to choose her role on earth and is unaware of her higher purpose. She's partnered with Big Venus, the machine god's executioner- or big reset button, if you prefer.
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Up To Eleven is a defunct trope


But it went from cliffhanger to [[GainaxEnding worse]]; a new series could go UpToEleven in [[MindScrew confusing]] and be worth watching for that reason.

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But it went from cliffhanger to [[GainaxEnding worse]]; a new series could go UpToEleven up to eleven in [[MindScrew confusing]] and be worth watching for that reason.
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[[WMG: Angel is LightNovel/{{Haruhi|Suzumiya}}]]
Haruhi created this world in a dream after watching too much mech anime one night. Roger Smith is Kyon and Dorothy is Yuki. The reason everything is such a MindScrew is because Haruhi is dreaming, and the reset is when she finally wakes up from the dream, but not before dreaming of herself as Big Venus. However, Roger does persuade her to not erase the world, which results in her creating a separate timeline to house the reset world of the Big O.
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* Alternately, Paradigm City ''is'' Vault 122, an active experiment. The gears viewable as the Big O sinks are part of a massive mechanical platform that controls the 'suns' around the domes, the electricity, everything. That's why a city 'with no memories' can continue to function. The Vault was meant to gauge just how far the human mind could sink from reality; memories are dulled ''via'' mind-scrambling white noise broadcast over the P.A. systems at a sub-audio level. The MegaDeus are remnants of the program that built Liberty Prime, scaled down and under the control of the Overseer; hence why they act on their own and don't respond to their driver. The Union is made up of technicians who know about the experiment and exist among the populace to manipulate the outcome; hence, why those we see have bad accents and over-the-top attitudes. They're ''literally'' playing a part. Gordon Rosewater is Overseer, in need of a replacement; his son Alex contracted radiation poison, resulting in an addled mind. Alex's actions interfere with the experiment, so the technicians/the Union are sent to stop him, with Angel one of them. However, she starts buying into the illusion propagated in the city (her descent from aloof ''femme fatale'' to uncertain self-doubter), and at the end, Angel takes control of the experiment and re-starts it by performing a mass re-conditioning of the Vault's subjects. Angel becomes the new Overseer, but her appearance at the end of the series indicates that she intends to continue playing in her new sandbox.

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* Alternately, Paradigm City ''is'' Vault 122, [=122=], an active experiment. The gears viewable as the Big O sinks are part of a massive mechanical platform that controls the 'suns' around the domes, the electricity, everything. That's why a city 'with no memories' can continue to function. The Vault was meant to gauge just how far the human mind could sink from reality; memories are dulled ''via'' mind-scrambling white noise broadcast over the P.A. systems at a sub-audio level. The MegaDeus are remnants of the program that built Liberty Prime, scaled down and under the control of the Overseer; hence why they act on their own and don't respond to their driver. The Union is made up of technicians who know about the experiment and exist among the populace to manipulate the outcome; hence, why those we see have bad accents and over-the-top attitudes. They're ''literally'' playing a part. Gordon Rosewater is Overseer, in need of a replacement; his son Alex contracted radiation poison, resulting in an addled mind. Alex's actions interfere with the experiment, so the technicians/the Union are sent to stop him, with Angel one of them. However, she starts buying into the illusion propagated in the city (her descent from aloof ''femme fatale'' to uncertain self-doubter), and at the end, Angel takes control of the experiment and re-starts it by performing a mass re-conditioning of the Vault's subjects. Angel becomes the new Overseer, but her appearance at the end of the series indicates that she intends to continue playing in her new sandbox.



As a young child, traumatized by the mind-altering and implanted-training he had to undergo, a young Roger Smith found solace in the story of a lad like himself, one Bruce Wayne, who adopted a stylish black-wearing persona to do good. Young Roger sought refuge in the story of this hero, and while growing up erased many of the memories he unconsciously began to re-create his childhood stories by patterning himself after Bruce Wayne: The stylin' black outfits, the multi-talented butler, the semi-antagonistic relationship with the local police-chief, the cool-ass car. The appearance of Dorothy begins moving him out of this mental safe-room and towards developing his own persona, as seen in his banter with Dorothy; however the change isn't easy to make, as it would mean sacrificing his childhood comfort. It's further complicated with the appearance of Angel, serving as the [[DatingCatwoman Selina Kyle/femme fatale.]]


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As a young child, traumatized by the mind-altering and implanted-training he had to undergo, a young Roger Smith found solace in the story of a lad like himself, one Bruce Wayne, who adopted a stylish black-wearing persona to do good. Young Roger sought refuge in the story of this hero, and while While growing up erased many of the memories his memories, he unconsciously began to re-create his childhood stories by patterning himself after Bruce Wayne: The stylin' black outfits, the multi-talented butler, the semi-antagonistic relationship with the local police-chief, the cool-ass cool car. The appearance of Dorothy begins moving him out of this mental safe-room and towards developing his own persona, as seen in his banter with Dorothy; however the change isn't easy to make, as it would mean sacrificing his childhood comfort. It's further complicated with the appearance of Angel, serving as the [[DatingCatwoman Selina Kyle/femme fatale.]]




[[WMG: Episode Fourteen was the REAL world.]]
For those who didn't see the episode (or forgot it): In episode 14, Roger hallucinates a world where he's a homeless man and ex-cop gone over the edge, Paradigm City is a normal 1950s-era world with sunlight and no domes, and everyone from the 'show' are different people. It turns out to be a construct of Roger's mind; when he accepts his place as a Negotiator, it all goes away.

This theory proposes that Roger's hallucination is the reality behind what we know as The Big O. Roger ''is'' that ex-cop, who - finally sickened by the horrors of his job - went over the edge and built an elaborate dream-world where he can solve all the problems of his city in the span of a single episode. The Big O really ''is'' just a newspaper comic. Dorothy Wainwright ''is'' the socialite daughter of the wealthiest man in town. Angel ''is'' just a co-worker whom Roger once had a relationship with and since was distanced from -- hence her ambivalent portrayal in the show. When Roger 'hallucinated', he was coming to his senses; the return to the 'real world' of the show was Roger refusing to accept the reality of his reality and sinking back into his delusion.

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[[WMG: Episode Fourteen was the REAL real world.]]
For those who didn't see the episode (or forgot it): In episode 14, it, Roger hallucinates a world where he's a homeless man and ex-cop gone over the edge, Paradigm City is a normal 1950s-era world with sunlight and no domes, and everyone from the 'show' are different people. It turns out to be a construct of Roger's mind; when he accepts his place as a Negotiator, it all goes away.

This theory proposes that Roger's hallucination is the reality behind what we know as The Big O. Roger ''is'' that ex-cop, ex-cop who - finally sickened by the horrors of his job - went over the edge and built an elaborate dream-world where he can solve all the problems of his city in the span of a single episode. The Big O really ''is'' just a newspaper comic. Dorothy Wainwright ''is'' the socialite daughter of the wealthiest man in town. Angel ''is'' just a co-worker whom Roger once had a relationship with and has since was distanced himself from -- hence her ambivalent portrayal in the show. When Roger 'hallucinated', he was coming to his senses; the return to the 'real world' of the show was Roger refusing to accept the reality of his reality and sinking back into his delusion.
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But it went from cliffhanger to [[Main/GainaxEnding worse]]; a new series could go UpToEleven in [[MindScrew confusing]] and be worth watching for that reason.

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But it went from cliffhanger to [[Main/GainaxEnding [[GainaxEnding worse]]; a new series could go UpToEleven in [[MindScrew confusing]] and be worth watching for that reason.



Either the Director's computer can literally rewrite reality inside the city, or the entire series takes place inside a computer and the characters are just [=AIs=] in a Main/{{Reboot}}-style simulated world. Either way, Angel is the only one the system takes orders from.

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Either the Director's computer can literally rewrite reality inside the city, or the entire series takes place inside a computer and the characters are just [=AIs=] in a Main/{{Reboot}}-style ''WesternAnimation/ReBoot''-style simulated world. Either way, Angel is the only one the system takes orders from.
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and if you think those are suspension of diselief or anything of the like:

How come Roger is never affected by the giant magnets that trap Dorothy, and why have some characters (apparently) aged over the decades while the robots look the same (as evidenced by the Bigs and R.D. On the other hand, we saw that Roger's old-man looking informant was actually a robot, so I guess altered face plates are not completely out of the question.


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\n*Some androids are more advanced than others. Dorothy is an earlier model who is obviously a robot, but most androids are designed to seem as authentic as possible, right down to bleeding fake blood and if you think those are suspension of diselief or anything of eating fake food. (And the like:

How come
characters simply say that the dog killed its owner; if any translation says it ate her, then it's either an exaggeration, or the dog-bot really turned into a huge monster that crushed her in its jaws.)
*This also explains why
Roger is never affected by the giant magnets that trap Dorothy, Dorothy: he (and the other advanced androids) are made from more human-like synthetic materials and why plastics instead of metal.

Why
have some characters (apparently) aged over the decades while the robots look the same (as evidenced by the Bigs and R.D. On the other hand, we saw that Roger's old-man looking informant was actually a robot, so I guess altered face plates are not completely out of the question.

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It would only make sense that further Batman and DC analogues would appear. Clark/Superman being the parallel to Bruce/Batman. Perhaps as another Megadeus pilot?

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It would only make sense that further Batman and DC analogues would appear. Clark/Superman being the parallel to Bruce/Batman. Perhaps as another Megadeus pilot?pilot?
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They are doing a dry run after running a Mecha style show and were trying a more noir one. Unfortunately the erasures weren't perfect from the old show, as a result Arthur knows how to pilot a megadeuce without any real technical training. And our villain who screamed about what this world was had been smart enough to realize what they were and it drove him batty. The end episode was an attempt to restart the series again with a more complete erasure, rather than reusing old props they'd just try to rebuild the whole thing from scratch but keep the first few scripts. --{{Blackjoker}}


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They are doing a dry run after running a Mecha style show and were trying a more noir one. Unfortunately the erasures weren't perfect from the old show, as a result Arthur knows how to pilot a megadeuce without any real technical training. And our villain who screamed about what this world was had been smart enough to realize what they were and it drove him batty. The end episode was an attempt to restart the series again with a more complete erasure, rather than reusing old props they'd just try to rebuild the whole thing from scratch but keep the first few scripts. --{{Blackjoker}}

--@/{{Blackjoker}}

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Basically, the Sudden Impact pistons in Big O's arms don't seem like something the military would put a smaller version of on a tank or something for use in combat. Instead, they seem more like what you'd use to smash holes in large structures, like bunkers and walls. As such, maybe Big O was a heavy combat engineering platform, possibly designed from the ground up to support a hypothetical "Big Solo", or to smash anti-aircraft artillery emplacements keeping Big Duo units out of the area.

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Basically, the Sudden Impact pistons in Big O's arms don't seem like something the military would put a smaller version of on a tank or something for use in combat. Instead, they seem more like what you'd use to smash holes in large structures, like bunkers and walls. As such, maybe Big O was a heavy combat engineering platform, possibly designed from the ground up to support a hypothetical "Big Solo", or to smash anti-aircraft artillery emplacements keeping Big Duo units out of the area.area.

[[WMG: Big O is a part of the DC Multiverse.]]
Big O is quite clearly an alternate universe to Batman specifically, branching off Batman: The Animated Series. Roger being an alternate Bruce Wayne and others being counterparts to the rest of the cast.

[[WMG: Had there been a 3rd season, a counterpart to Clark Kent/Superman would have been introduced as an enemy or rival.]]
It would only make sense that further Batman and DC analogues would appear. Clark/Superman being the parallel to Bruce/Batman. Perhaps as another Megadeus pilot?
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[[WMG: The whole series takes place within the Tang Sea of [[NeonGenesisEvangelion Third Impact]].]]

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[[WMG: The whole series takes place within the Tang Sea of [[NeonGenesisEvangelion [[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion Third Impact]].]]
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Had a neat idea.


Roger represents a Shinji who grew a spine. Presumably, Angel is Rei/Lilith. Dorothy is likely either Asuka or, more likely, Kaworu (not human, denying the attraction); in the latter case, Dastun is probably Asuka. NERV becomes the Union, while SEELE's memories are incoporated into Alex Rosewater. Yui Ikari's soul isn't present, but a few fragments of her memory are bound in the brain of Gordon Rosewater. The events of Act 26 are metaphorical.

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Roger represents a Shinji who grew a spine. Presumably, Angel is Rei/Lilith. Dorothy is likely either Asuka or, more likely, Kaworu (not human, denying the attraction); in the latter case, Dastun is probably Asuka. NERV becomes the Union, while SEELE's memories are incoporated into Alex Rosewater. Yui Ikari's soul isn't present, but a few fragments of her memory are bound in the brain of Gordon Rosewater. The events of Act 26 are metaphorical.metaphorical.

[[WMG: Big O isn't just a heavy combat unit.]]
Basically, the Sudden Impact pistons in Big O's arms don't seem like something the military would put a smaller version of on a tank or something for use in combat. Instead, they seem more like what you'd use to smash holes in large structures, like bunkers and walls. As such, maybe Big O was a heavy combat engineering platform, possibly designed from the ground up to support a hypothetical "Big Solo", or to smash anti-aircraft artillery emplacements keeping Big Duo units out of the area.

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