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This is a "Wild Mass Guess" entry, where we pull out all the sanity stops on theorizing. The regular entry on this topic is elsewhere. Please see this programme note.
Teen Titans
     Who Is Slade? 
Slade's cartoon origin is completely different.
In an interview, the maker of Teen Titans said that Slade on the show didn't have a motivation or a past. Well, that's all fine and good, but he has to get the money for his evil empire from SOMEWHERE. If we go by the comic book origin, he was a mercenary; but even that wouldn't pay for his robots and super tech and spy cameras.

So, going by that logic, cartoon Slade was not a lifelong soldier enhanced by government experiments, but a former douchebag yuppie whose playing the stock market made him billions. The money failed to bring true contentment, and so the efforts of chasing more money were given up for the more visceral thrills of mercenary work...enhanced by government experiments.

Okay, maybe not, but the concept makes this video game playthrough even FUNNIER.

  • He was able to summon one demon and make a deal with another, so a supernatural origin might also work. Although the animated Deathstroke Slade seems more like a Robin-level Badass Normal than the comics version, at least before he got upgraded by Trigon.
    • Maybe he sold his soul to gain an evil empire.
      • Then how would he make a deal with Trigon for the fourth season?
      • He sold it twice. Either he got the original back somehow, or Slade has two souls. (Maybe he stole one just for bargaining purposes.)
      • He sold his soul to Trigon in the first place, who sent him back to do his bidding as per the contract. Slade just hired very good lawyers to draft it in order to get relative freedom.
      • Wolfram & Hart?
  • After everything he went through, Slade lost his interest in world domination and becomes a mercenary-for-hire for the money and the thrills. This brings Slade in line with his comic book status.
  • I just wanted to add that apart from making at least as much sense as anything else the show ever offered us, that is one of the funniest things I have ever read.

Slade used to be a highly paid mercenary killer under the alias Deathstroke.
After making a gigantic amount of cash, he retired from that business and used it to fund his ambitions under his real name. At some point, he developed an interest in the occult, acquiring items like the medallion he used to summon the fire demon and the Ring of Azar, and possibly meeting Trigon or one of his representatives to lay the groundwork for a future deal. After the events of "The End," he's gone back to ground and is working on a new plan, having learned nothing beyond "demons don't play well with others".

Slade is Batman.
In the two part story "Apprentice" in Season One, Slade manipulates Robin into becoming his apprentice and orders him to steal from Wayne Enterprises. Slade's ambitions are suspiciously ambiguous. Like The Dark Knight Saga incarnation of Batman did on his travels, Slade could be having Robin steal things that are already his in order to teach him the nature of criminality without Robin's technically committing crimes. And like the All Star Batman, Slade might simply be open to morally questionable means in the name of the greater good. And when we finally catch a glimpse of Slade underneath the mask, we can see that he has dark hair, which means that Bruce Wayne could be a second alter ego of his.
  • Or everything 'Slade' does is an incredibly complicated Secret Test of Character for his newly independent ex-sidekick.
  • As the master of Crazy-Prepared, he made sure Terra was never in any danger at all and safely removed her from play permanently at her 'death.' His own death was a known temporary inconvenience.
  • Batman finally cracked. Years of double-identity and poorly treated grief finally took their toll, and he developed a genuine Split Personality. Slade's one-eyed look may also indicate a physical trauma that may have have "helped" him over the edge— a final, fatal fight with the Joker, two men enter, one broken man leaves?
  • Maybe Slade is Owlman.
    • And he wants Robin to be his new Talon.

Jossed. In The End, part 3, Slade's masked is kicked off his face - or what was left from it. We could see that Slade is indeed missing an eye and has a scar so deep it runs through his skull. Bruce Wayne doesn't have those kinds of injuries, but we know Deathstroke does.
  • Not necessarily. Since TT is in it's own continuity that does not necessarily reflect other DC canons, it's all fair game. We only get one "shot" of Batman's face in the tie-in comic, and it's covered with a mask with whited-out lenses that may possibly be hiding a missing eye and scar...

Slade is Robin.
In the future, Robin will try to take over or destroy the world, but won't be good enough to do so because everyone else is a Future Badass as well. So he goes back in time to teach the past Robin everything the future Robin knows; that way, as Robin ages, his skills will increase past that of the original future Robin, so the new!future!Robin will be able to take over the world. Slade has to wear a mask and change his name so Robin doesn't catch on and therefore destroy the future. The reason he turned off the nanoscopic probes in season one was because he didn't want to die.
  • Future!Robin is the last survivor a The End of the World as We Know It. He saw everything and everyone die horribly or worse, and is so scared-shitless and unbalanced that he's become a Well-Intentioned Extremist, willing to do anything to defeat the true future threat, even become willing to ally with Trigon, because what's coming is even worse. He's not trying to make Robin a criminal, he's teaching him to be absolutely ruthless and willing to let the ends justify any means, since that's what he believes will be necessary to avert his failure.
  • Alternate theory: After "Apprentice, Part 2", Future Robin fade from existence after his past self changed his future and is replaced by a completely different person from the future. Thus explaining Slade's apparent emotionless state.
  • My friends used to look sideways at her when she spouted off her "Slade is Robin from the future" theories back when the show was originally running. Nice to see she's not alone!
  • In an alternate timeline, instead of saving Raven during the events of The End, Robin ended up going psycho after wandering the wasteland earth alone, in pain after losing the people he loved, and went back in time to distance himself from his friends (hence the Apprentice arc) to try and ease the pain. After this failed, he was trapped in the past and just kept sliding until he went completely batshit, which is how he forgot about Raven bringing about the end of the world, and kept trying to kill the Titans.

Slade is Two-Face
His mask is split in two halves and the left half (Harvey's damaged side) has no eye-hole to cover up his distinct demonic eye caused by his accident. The final episode of Batman: The Animated Sereis revealed that Two-Face had developed a third persona (The Judge), who's to say his mind didn't shatter even further and create a fourth one?

Slade is Lex Luthor.
Why not? All his schemes are a contrived plot to kill Superman.

Slade is Deathstroke.
He's not secretly anyone. He's just Slade Wilson.
  • Isn't that canon?
    • Yes it is. In the french version, he's called Deathstroke.
      • Slade sounds cooler and scarier than Deathstroke. No wonder they renamed him.
      • True, but they also replaced Slade Wilson's original DC Comics alias as "Deathstroke the Terminator" with "Slade" due to censorship issues. Still, compared to the latter, the former alias just sounds crappy.
      • Or maybe someone just thought the name "Deathstroke the Terminator" was too corny for a non-silly, non-Bronze-Aged villain.

Slade is Doctor Doom
He's more The Chessmaster than hired mercenary, he's wearing armor that hides his face, and in the episode with Thunder & Lightning he showed experience in sorcery (which Doom has shown in the past).

Slade is Duke Wilson from the case of the 48 Jokers
Both Slade and Duke have the same last name. "And kinda like the kid who peeks at his Christmas presents, it's sadly anticlimactic. Behind all the sturm and evil Slade's nothing more than a goon of the Joker following The Joker's orders. It’d be funny if it weren’t so pathetic!….ah, what the heck, I’ll laugh anyway. Ha! Ha! Ha!"

    Who Is Red X? 
Red X is...

Jason Todd
  • "Jason Todd" was one of the theories on Beast Boy's chart in the episode of Red X's return. This was the name of one of the Robins from the comics, who recently came Back from the Dead and assumed an Anti-Villain identity with a very similar name — the "Red Hood". The new Red X is the current Titans' Robin's Evil Counterpart; his skill level and fighting style mirror Robin's. Jason was largely an angsty Badass, whose personality is in sync with the new Red X's, and who would be just the type to do something like this.
    • So Beast Boy was right?
    • And, unbeknownst to the Titans, he covertly fights crime alongside the thievery, but in a more violent and ruthless way than the Titans.
    • And then there's this.

Damian Wayne
  • The son of Bruce Wayne and Talia al Ghul, a "violent and self-important" kid. Posing as Red X and taking on the Titans single-handedly is a twisted way to try and earn Batman's approval.

An inter-dimensional imp
  • An Evil Counterpart to Larry from the 4-and-9/8th-dimension (Ddot Nosaj?) popped in and took the suit
  • Larry himself did as part of some whacky game of cops-and-robbers he wants to play with Robin
  • Larry's magic accidentally made the suit itself alive.

Stephanie Brown
  • Red X being the animated equivalent of her Spoiler identity, following more closely in her dad's footsteps.

Evil Morally Ambiguous Batclone
  • Well, I really have no logical reason for this besides for the fact he's smart enough to get past all of the Tower's defences and steal the suit with nobody noticing.
    • Twice. He had to get the belt back somehow. Unless, of course, he just made another one himself — which actually makes this theory more plausible.

A Time Traveling Younger Terry
  • It had been said he was in juvie when he was younger, so perhaps he got sent back in time before he became Batman and stole the suit.

Robin's brother
  • "Lost Lost Brother" was one of the possible theories on Beast Boy's chart in the episode of Red X's return, and both Robin and the new Red X have similar voices (unless there's a built-in voice changer in the mask). Robin does have an older brother in Batman Forever, his named is Mitchell and got killed along with their parents by Two-Face. A similar scenario may have happened in the Teen Titans universe, and was brought back to life or never truly died at all (a la Jason Todd in the original comics). But since he is labeled "Long Lost Brother", Robin's brother may have been kidnapped, missing, or sent to live with relatives at a younger age when Robin was either a baby or in his mother's womb, since Robin doesn't even acknowledge having a brother or any other sibling. He found out his little brother is Robin (and by extension, Bruce Wayne is Batman) and has been stalking him since. That would sort of explain how Red X seems to know a lot about Robin. His hostility towards Robin is because Red X was jealous their parents give him more attention. Or he blames him for their parents' death because Robin knew Boss Zucco sabotaged the circus act but never said anything before its too late (like in several reinterpretations of the incident).

Red Herring
  • Share the same voice and he could be bitter enough a bully that after years of being blamed for crimes he'd actually become a criminal himself.
    • "I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING JONES!"

Lloyd Irving
  • Same voice. As for how he got there, the Teen Titans universe is part of a Tales of the World plot and the disguises and thievery are part of one of the game's bizarre fetch quests.

No one in particular
  • Just a Badass Normal thief who managed to sneak into the tower (probably during one of the points where the security system was down, or during Slade's attack on the city in "Aftershock"), found the suit, and decided to take it for a joyride. He is, of course, immensely amused by everyone's wild speculation as to his true identity, and may even have planted some of it himself. (Red X is a troper!) Which would make Raven right when she said:
    Red X could be anyone. Anyone smart enough to find the suit and dumb enough to take it for a joyride.

Speedy
  • Left with no other way to feed his heroin addiction, Speedy sometimes moonlights as a supervillain.
    • So...Speedy's already a junkie, and yet Bumblebee, Aqualad and Mas y Menos are comfortable with him being in Titans East? (recall, if he's shooting up, that's going to be profoundly difficult to hide, since superheroes, even teen heroes, would be just the type to check everywhere for tracks. And it would show up in any bloodwork he had to do, too) Also, given how heroin trashes the system, just how is he keeping up his stamina to be both Speedy AND Red X?

Scorn
  • A one-shot character from The Batman who was partners with his brother Wrath, serving as a Robin analogue to Wrath's Batman. They were a lot like the Dynamic Duo, except they're criminals who fight against the police and superheroes because they believe that crime is just another career, and that criminals have enough problems to deal with without superheroes constantly ruining their day.
    • Eventually, they found out the secret identities of Batman and Robin, but in trying to take them down, Joker gassed the both of them with Joker gas, making them unable to share their secret and driving them to partial insanity.
    • It's likely that Scorn would recover from the Joker gas on his own while being locked away, but have suffered from partial memory loss in the meanwhile. This lets him know plenty about the Boy Wonder, but not everything (such as Robin's identity). He would then escape from jail, make his way to Jump City, and steal the Red X suit for himself.

The suit itself having developed a sentient personality
  • Yes, there are people who subscribe to this. And hey, with about as much sense as the show makes at times, why count it out? Maybe Robin's Badass Normal DNA made it long for a wild life of its own.
    • Possible, given the uncertain and unstable properties of the xynothium element that powered the suit.

Grant Wilson Slade's older kid in the comics that no-one remembers. Cause he kind of died in his first appearance. Or did he...? This also makes sense since Red X is Slade's apprentice. Grant has decided to make his own way in the world, and in addition to the fact that the Red X suit is awesome Power Armor, he also feels that it is symbolic: stealing the role of his father's apprentice from someone who no longer wants the role, in a bit of Esau and Jacob symbolism (stealing the "birthright" of being Slade's heir).
  • Maybe in TT continuity, he hadn't appeared and/or died yet.

An AU/DC version of Deadpool
  • ...Because that would be totally awesome.

An Assassin
  • Like Desmond, he could have escaped from a Farm, except he did it after learning some badass skills, but still before being told that it's totally okay to kill people.note  The basis for this theory? He took a Leap of Faith off of a cliff. With no hesitation whatsoever. I am willing to concede that it may just have been because Red X is a Crowning Character of Awesome. Of course, being an escaped Assassin who still hasn't been hunted down by the Templars would just add to that Awesome.

Jinx
  • After growing bored of her idiotic comrades in crime, she steals the suit herself. Due to her very slim physique it would be easy to simply pad up to look like a boy. (She even hit on Starfire to keep up the charade) After fighting along side Robin, she realizes that it actually feels pretty good to be good. Her evilness fades away, and a certain red-haired Speedster picks up where Robin's actions left off.

Jericho
  • In the original comics, Jericho is Slade's son. Perhaps in the animated TT universe, he's still his son and decided to follow in the footsteps of his father, but couldn't quite bring himself to turn completely evil (hence Red X's moral ambiguity). He joined the Brotherhood of Evil, but quit soon after Ding Dong Daddy's race. Somewhere between then and Calling All Titans! he was attacked and someone tried to slit his throat, which didn't kill him, but rendered him mute; he quickly realised what he could have become - like the people who attacked him - discarded the suit and turned to pacifism (only fighting when the Titans needed help).
  • His only power is his ability to possess people through eye contact. He couldn't use this power when dressed up as Red X because the mask stopped him from making proper eye-contact - he decided that it was worth it to not be able to use this power to have the Xenothium-powered perks the suit gave him.
  • In the comics' continuity, Jericho has his throat slit at a very young age (certainly younger than TT age), which also happens to be the reason why Slade has only one eye. I seriously doubt the creators would warp Jericho's backstory that much, as it would also affect Slade's.

Robin's Enemy Without
  • The Xenothium in the suit affected Robin's mind and gave him a Split Personality that was Red X - so after Robin locked it away, Red-X-Robin stole it again, and Robin doesn't remember. Perhaps he even committed a few more thefts in the suit that Robin doesn't remember, during the Titan's breaks between criminals...who knows? Later, at some point, the Xenothium caused this split personality to break away from Robin (in his sleep, perhaps) and leave with the suit. They then met the second Red X in the episode X, though it isn't a different Red X, it's the same one.

Future Dick Grayson It's established that Dick Grayson is this Robin, and time travel is perfectly possible in this continuity. It was even on Beast Boy's chart. Also, Robin and Red X both have similar combat and acrobatic skills. Not to mention if it is a future Dick Grayson it would make perfect sense how he could make it into the tower and steal the suite with out anyone finding out until they practically bump into him. Also, the fact that he calls Robin kid at least implies he is a bit older, Jason Todd is generally a bit younger then Dick and posses much less acrobatic ability. The reason he opposes the Titans is either because he has gone insane due to the trauma of time travel, or has become at least a bit unhinged, or doesn't want to directly effect the Titans development and only shows up to keep Robin and the others sharp and spends his off camera time doing things to thwart other villains by being the "inside man" and ruining their operations.

A living embodiment of Wild Mass Guessing
  • It's why we never found out his identity; he only exists because people theorize on who he is and what his motivations are. If we ever learned an actual identity, he'd cease to exist.

A robot
  • Why else would his voice sound like that?

That Greaser Dude That Stole Cyborg's Car
  • This one always sounded good to me. In hindsight, maybe not as much, but here goes: The tall greaser that "totally escaped" Gizmo's trap bubble before the cops showed up could be him. The dude had a lot of potential. He looks at Cyborg's high tech car and has no problems of A) breaking into it, B) turning off its alarm, C) Removing the wheel lock without disassemblying it or breaking it, and D) was able to use the different devices in the car in his race. He was also, A) skilled at escaping Gizmo's trap despite the fact that once you whole body is in the bubble, you shouldn't be able to escape, B) very self serving and would have no qualms about sneaking into the Titan Tower after they got him arrested, C) even if he was supposed to be in jail when Red X appeared, we saw how much ingenuity he had and may be able to escape, and D) if he can get past all of Cyborg's precautions for his car, then why not for his home? The only problems with this is his voice, his personality (he was more nervous), and his fighting skills, but if he practiced his inflection, he could pull off Red X's voice and jail can toughen a guy up. He could also be acting and that we get the gist of what of he wants without giving himself away, i.e. the fact that he claims to be 100% self-serving, but always does an Enemy Mine. His Enemy Mine actions could be his (possibly in his mind) "wissy" persoanlity coming out. Finally, the martial arts thing is the only block here. We never saw the Greaser fight and he never had a chance to. Jail can toughen someone up and help his reaction time, but the skills he shows are on Robin's level. It all depends on how much that Greaser had in terms of training before and after he was in jail. As for why his buddy isn't with him, there's only one suit and it only fits him. Maybe his body is still in jail, decided to become clean, or they just went their separate ways.

The Joker

Robin from an alternate reality
  • Probably the Crime Syndicate's Earth.

A rogue clone of Dick Grayson created by Cadmus
  • He's a little mentally unstable, but he still has all Robin's memories and skills. He felt that the Red X persona suited him more than the "Boy Wonder" thing.

Robin is Tim Drake, and Red X is Jason Todd.
Jason, having died and ressurected, feels betrayed and bitter towards Batman for replacing him and decides to take it out on the new Robin, who is leading the Titans.

Richard Grayson - the original Robin - had already moved to Bludhaven and become Nightwing. In the Bad Future in "How Long Is Forever?", Grayson decided to hand over his old identity to Tim Drake so that he could continue to fight crime in Jump City.
  • Jossed In the episode, 'Fractured', Larry was originally named Nosyarg Kcid (before Beast Boy requested the name change). Word of God says Larry was created as the anti-Robin. So, Robin is Dick Grayson.
  • Doubly jossed in the episode "Haunted", where Raven dips into Robin's head and sees his memories. There's a circus tent with two people falling to their deaths, which is how John and Mary Grayson - Dick's parents - met their end.
  • Teen Titans GO! #47 confirms the TT cartoon Robin to be Dick Grayson.

The adult superheroes are all dead. The kids are the only protection the world has left
This is the only possible explanation for no adults helping in The End. The apocalypse had well and truly arrived, and all bets were off. There is no possible justification for the adults not intervening in that situation - there is no higher priority threat than a life-eradicating demon king. Unless something had happened to wipe out all the adult superheroes and leave only the sidekicks.

Terra was never forgiven and was condemned to hell
When Terra became encased in stone, she actually did die, which is why the Titans were completely unable to bring her back. At this point she is condemned to hell for her betrayal of the Titans and conquest of the city. Then, when Slade opened the gates of hell to retrieve his soul, he also released several other souls, one of which was Terra's. Her soul then restored her body, much like Slade's did, returning her to life. However, when she returns to life her last memories were the volcano erupting around her. She then proceeded to stumble outside and saw a burnt world covered in smoke and lava, she then fled believing it to be the aftermath of the volcanic eruption that was her fault. As she fled, Raven restored the world to its former state, and Terra saw this as a second chance. Taking this opportunity, she settled down in the city and tried to live a normal life and vowed to never use her powers again so that she could not be used as a weapon again. When Beast Boy found her, she denied that she was Terra in order to keep her life, even though she didn't want to lie to him.

If "Go" never happened...
(Meaning if Starfire had never arrived on Earth)

Robin would eventually form the Titans (or some similar team) with only the original founding members from the comics: Speedy, Kid Flash, and Aqualad.

Cyborg would join the Justice League, a là the New 52 story line.

Beast Boy stays with Doom Patrol because he has nowhere else to go.
  • Or he joins Robin's Titans team at a later date.

As for Raven, Trigon's plan would probably be successful.
  • Unless the alternate Titans successfully intervene.

Starfire's broken English
One reason could be that Starfire is simply learning the language, so her Spock Speak is because she's not comfortable enough speaking in English to use contractions, natural slang, etc.

Another theory is that she is implying Tamaranean speech patterns to English (i.e., in Tamaranean, all nouns or names must be preceded by the equivalent of "the", hence her tendency to use "the" before all nouns and names).

Finally, and the one I think most likely, she is in fact a good English speaker (with some mistakes), but speaks the way she does because of her royal background. That is, she speaks the same way in Tamaranean.
  • Does anyone here speak Japanese? It would kind of clinch it if someone who knew Japanese could check to see if she uses those "formal speech patterns" when she learns Japanese in the movie.
    • She uses a relatively polite speech pattern in Japanese, with her phrase "Sumimasen kedo, Shinjuku wa docchi no houkou desu ka?" (Kanji: すみませんけど、新宿はどっちの方向ですか?) being deconstructed to "Sorry but, Shijuku [SUBJ] which {POSS} direction “to-be” [question indicator]?" and coming out in English as "Excuse me, which way is Shinjuku?"

Actually, I believe the most plausible theory is that Starfire learns only the fundamentals of the languages she absorbs. As in, only the "purest form of English", with no colloqualisms, slang or personalizations in general.

Tamaraneans can learn languages from a kiss, and get more with more.
Starfire having sex with Robin would probably give access to everything Batman taught him, all of his memories from childhood up to the present (including suppressed), ability to adopt his mannerisms, personality and preference of pizza topping.

Raven's birthday is in January
Raven's the only character with an onscreen birthdaynote . Watching The End, pt. 1, you'll notice that it's already dark by 6:00. This means her birthday couldn't be in the summer, as it wouldn't be dark until, literally, 9 o'clock. One could argue that there's no snow on the ground, but that's a non-issue; many hints throughout the series point to the Titans living in Southern California, where snow is rarer.
  • Hypothetically, it could be anywhere between November and February. Southern California's about the same latitude as my general home region, and we usually have a 5:30 or earlier sunset during that time of year.
  • Alternatively, Raven could be celebrating birthdays using her planet's calendar and it just happened to occur during winter that year.

Terra didn't quite return Beast Boy's feelings
It's very obvious that Beast Boy has a crush on Terra right from their first meeting. However, nothing Terra ever says gives the impression that she feels the same way. Sure, she cares for Beast Boy and enjoys his company, and even says he's one of her best friends—that does not equate with romantic attraction, as I can attest to. The only instance that implies she may have had some attraction to Beast Boy is when she almost kissed him in Betrayal, but that could have been a result of the mood (or she cared for him as a friend, and thought that it would make him happy if they kissed).
  • Blasphemy! The writers were nearly as blatant about that as they were w/ the Rob/Star ship tease episodes! (and for my money, far more so than they ever were w/ BB/Raven, hence why that one can more easily be classified as a Relationship Writing Fumble)
    • I agree with the OP, Beast Boy's feelings for Terra were obvious from the beginning whereas Terra's apparent feelings for Beast boy weren't that strong until the climax/end of her arc (not including the finale). If could be implied that she grew to like Beast Boy, (hence the almost kiss at the carnival) but not much (outside preexisting mythology) to imply that she liked him back from the beginning. For BB and Raven to be a Relationship Writing Fumble, the writers seem to like teasing it (especially with the trouble in tokyo movie).
      • That movie didn't really feel like the thing BB/Raven Ship Teases are made of. But there are enough moments in the series proper that even I've questioned how much bullshit Word of God was feeding us on the that front, which would make a good WMG of its own.

Titans' Ages and Timeline
  • Robin: 15 in "Go!", then turns 18 sometime around Season 5 (possibly after it ends). He needs to be at least 16 to have a motorcycle license (assuming he doesn't get a special superhero license).. However, he's not too old that he wouldn't be much of a "teen" anymore, and would still be young enough to make all the mistakes of youth and enjoy the same silly things like video games and pizza and obnoxious music.
  • Cyborg: 16-17 in Go!, 18 by the end of Season 3. Some people put Cyborg as old as 19, but that squicks me out when you think how young the other characters are. 16 seems a little young as well, but that can be attributed to Older Than They Look. As for how old he is in Season 3, he references "being a man" as a reason for him to leave the west coast team; at 18, he would be a legal adult and should be thinking about this kind of thing.
    • I think 18/19 makes more sense. His "I never got to finish high school because of these(cybernetics)." doesn't make sense if he was just 17/18. Many people are still in high school at that age.
    • Most people graduate at 18, and he never said he was about to graduate, just that he never finished. He could be, at the youngest, 16, as Teen Titans Go! reveals that he became a cyborg as a result of a car crash.
  • Starfire: Irrelevant; she was born on Tamaran, which could revolve around its sun faster or slower than Earth does its, and her alien biology may not parallel humans' at all. Though in terms of Earth ages, she would likely be 15-16.
    • For people who are Squicked by Starfire's arranged marriage in Betrothed: not only are we talking about a different planet with entirely different traditions, Starfire may well be 30 or 40 or something in earth time, for all we know about Tamaranean physiology.
  • Raven: 15 until the Season 4 finale. Birthmark is explicitly stated to take place on her birthday, and it reeks of Dangerous Sixteenth Birthday to the point of practically being canon. It fits together perfectly.
  • Beast Boy: 14. Beast Boy has been described as the "little brother" of the team, and the team does seem to treat him like a kid. He's officially the Plucky Comic Relief Kid-Appeal Character. All this points to him being the youngest member on the team. However, any younger than 13 would make him too young to be called a teen, so 14 is probably the most realistic, given his mannerisms and personality. Furthermore, his fifteenth birthday is depicted in the Teen Titans Go comics.
  • Terra: 15. She is clearly not dramatically older than Beast Boy, but their relationship implies that she is the older of the two. She seems too mature to be 14, but not mature enough to be 16, so she falls in between those ages. Finally, in the finale, she seems to be going to high school, which would fit in with this theory if she was 15.

The "Terra" in the last episode was actually Terra's long lost twin sister
The girl looked a lot like Terra but personality wise she seemed so different, and I think she said her name was 'Tara'. I never though that she was actually Terra just trying to hide from her past. I doubt that that girl was Terra since besides claim to not know who the teen titans were, her personality was different and she didn't like anchovies like Terra did. but since they look alike, maybe Terra had a twin sister that she didn't talk about or didn't know about.
  • Very much Jossed. It really is Terra.
    • They make it abundantly clear that she's almost certainly faking amnesia. "Things were never the way you remembered them."

Dr. Light is killed in the second to last episode.
Shortly after Robin shouts "Titans, Go!", Dr. Light is brutally murdered by the ''sheer force of impact'' of his opponents. I challenge anyone to come up with a reasonable scenario where he survives the assault.
  • Last-possible-second surrender with plenty of begging for his life?
  • He dropped his loot and ran away.
  • The sheer shock of a whole bunch of heroes caused him to suffer a fatal heart attack
  • Hearing Robin's battle-cry, he turns and finds a veritable army of heroes encroaching upon him. The second thing he does is surrender. The third thing he does is pass out. The Titans leave him to the police, because their noses tell them the first thing he did was soil himself.
  • It's not like he doesn't deserve it.

Teen Titans is a Tabletop RPG being played by a bunch of adolescents.
Teen Titans seems to exist along the lines of no other part of the DCAU. Secret identities are almost never acknowledged. And this is why all the Titans' power levels fluctuate so wildly in between fights.
  • Objection! If it was an RPG, they'd have stable, or measurably increasing, power levels.
    • It's not a very good RPG. It's the FATAL of that universe. You should see the stuff CN cuts out.
    • It's even funnier when you look at the team a bit differently... I.E. look at it like a Dungeons & Dragons campaign group. Robin=Fighter/Monk/Warblade, Cyborg=Barbarian (he even gets to play one for real in an episode), Beat Boy=Druid (Come on. Wildshape much?), Starfire=Sorceress (great for battle but not quite as versatile as Raven), and Raven=Wizard (versatile, has lots of spells, has to learn them and even has to meditate/prepare spells).

Robin is a mutant clone of the three original Robins that was sent back in time to stop the world from being destroyed by giant robots and somehow got caught up defending San Fran...er...The City from evil.
He does seem to be a combination of all the other Robins, and the parts where his power fluctuates (beating Cinderblock with his bare hands in one episode and being genuinely challenged by common thugs the next) could be explained as the "Mutant" part of "Mutant Clone" surfacing.

This explains why Robin is portrayed as an aggregate, and why no secret identities are shown. The few name-slips in the last season were Shout Outs to the inspirations.
  • Making 2008's Tiny Titans comic series, of course, a big old Spinoff Babies remake of Teen Titans. It's certainly happened enough times in the real world.
    Franco Aurelani: Tiny Titans is like an unlicensed version of a TV show that exists in the DC Universe. In Teen Titans #50, you're going to see a little bit of them watching Tiny Titans on TV.
  • We have confirmation!: There's a Teen Titans comic with "Teen Titans Go!" being shown on TV, too. Doubtless, the original "Teen Titans Go!" TV series was cancelled to make room for their Spinoff Babies "Tiny Titans" on the air, just like the comics were in real life our world.

Terra's Anti-Villain status in the animated series is due to her being an amalgam of Rose Wilson's personality and Tara Markov's powers.
In the animated series, Terra's story reads like Deathstroke's Daughter's origins and ongoing saga told in anachronic order: Meeting the titans, being cornered by Slade, being convinced to work for Slade first through More Than Mind Control and then through outright physical and mental abuse, repentance, and an attempt at building a normal life. Slade also drops a number of lines in Terra's origin episode and elsewhere that may imply that he knows more about her than an average villain would. This, of course, would add even more Squick to their relationship.
  • Somewhat jossed, as Rose Wilson is confirmed to exist in canon, confirmed in Teen Titans Go! issue 49, "Legacy". As for Terra's origin story, that's covered in issue 51, "Metamorphosis". In other words, there is no amalgamation (at least in-universe).
    • It seems that the TTGo Rose is an amalgam of Rose Wilson and Grant Wilson, as she's supposedly Slade's oldest child and Jericho is her YOUNGER brother.

Something in Earth's atmosphere or food is affecting Starfire's brain chemistry.
This explains why she goes from ass-kicking alien warrior of Go! to dippy, insecure Genki Girl. It also explains why she was so shocked about growing a cocoon during her puberty phase instead of just "turning purple" for a while, as seems normal for her species.
  • The mustard: a narcotic to her species?
  • She seems to go back and forth between the two personalities more or less at random through the series. Maybe it depends on what she ate that day...
    • Her species goes through extremely rapid menstrual cycles.
  • That is Starfire's true personality... around people she loves, like Galfore. Since apparently the closest thing to kindness on Tamaran is rutha (weakness), and because of her training as a warrior, she learned to put up a defensive and tough façade around other people. When she first saw the Titans, she assumed that they would act the way Tamaraneans would and put up the façade. When she realised that the Titans and (most of the) people on earth would not react that way, she was quick to be herself and open up to her new friends, revealing her true self.

The Episode Hide and Go Seek is an incredible subtle Anvil about Teen Pregnancy
Besides Raven referring to the toddlers as "her kids" at the end, partway though when Timmy is having a tantrum someone asks "Whose kid is he?" right before Raven comes by to pick him up, while carrying a screaming Teether, and after she leaves a woman of a couple says "I would never let my children behave like that." There are a several more scenes where Raven shows how poor she would be at parenting, but when the kids get kidnapped by a supervillain, Raven shows that she is still awesome at being a superhero

Teen Titans is set in the DCAU.
Even though it officially isn't, there's nothing in any work that rules it out. The JLA characters are never mentioned, but presumably the sidekicks are sidekicks, and so the Leaguers do exist in the Titanverse; they just never appear. Speedy appears regularly in Titans, played by Mike Irwin. Irwin reprises the role in the Justice League Unlimited episode "Patriot Games". Also, Kid Flash shows up in the Titans episodes "Lightspeed" and "Titans Together", voiced by Michael Rosenbaum and with an attitude identical to the JLU version of Wally West. The fact that Wally's still Kid Flash is evidence that Titans is set long before JLU, so Robin is Dick Grayson (this fits with the future where he's Nightwing - with the DCAU costume, which is distinct from the comic book version). Unfortunately, he's not played by Loren Lester, but when so much else fits, why quibble on that? Titans is probably set before the "classic" Batman: The Animated Series even begins.
  • This lines up well. In BTAS, Dick is older than Robins are typically portrayed, in college and only superheroing part time. Perhaps he spent part of his "high school" years with the Titans, funded by the Wayne Foundation and officially going to a non-existent boarding school, then left to pursue his education at Gotham State. Also notice that the R-Cycle and several of his other gadgets strongly resemble ones he has as Nightwing in the DCAU.
  • Well, Static Shock is in DCAU, and when Batman guest starred there, he mentioned Robin (the second one) was "with the Titans" (before the TT show began airing), so Teen Titans of some sort exist in the DCAU.
  • I have long since developed a timeline for the DCAU that incorporates Teen Titans and Static Shock in with the rest of the DCAU. (I consider The Batman a separate continuity.) Robin in Teen Titans is Dick; after training with Batman as the Boy Wonder, he goes off to prove himself in another city before coming back to Gotham for college. Kid Flash is Wally, and he's older than the other Titans; he upgrades to being a Flash not long after the series and goes off to race Supes. The Robin we see in that Static episode is Tim, not Dick, and when he's 'off with the Titans', it means that he's off training with them - either the original group, or a set of 'new' Titans like in the comics. Really, the shows aren't hard to line up.
    • I believe this could work! Wally West might have been Jay Garrick's sidekick, since Barry Allen doesn't exist or never became Flash. Possibly Wally was visiting his uncle Barry when a lighting bolt struck chemicals and hit Wally instead of Barry. Barry might even be his Secret Keeper. As for Robin, young Dick immediately becomes Robin after learning Bruce is Batman in "Robin's Reckoning, Part 2". Don't forget, the Gordanians appeared in both this series and Justice League episode "Starcrossed".
  • I use Broad Strokes to assume that some form of the Teen Titans existed in the DCAU, originally made up of Dick Grayson Robin and the others between seasons in Batman: TAS. Oh and Nightstar exists by the time of Batman Beyond. ^_^

Starfire lets herself be in danger.
You know how, in just about every fight, Robin has to save Starfire at some point? It's not because she's almost a Faux Action Girl. It's because she enjoys it when Robin gets to play Knight in Shining Armor.
  • So it's serious Obfuscating Stupidity? That's kind of awesome, actually.
  • Totally canon. Now the only question is if Robin is in on the whole roleplaying Rescue Romance.
  • Very possible. With her super strength and other powers she could fight her way out of many situations, yet she plays the Distressed Damsel fairly often. There's a strong backup that she just simply chooses not to do it.
  • Alternatively, like Raven, she knows just how immensely powerful she is (especially by earth standards), and because of her Genki Girl Apologetic Attacker personality, consciously holds back against opponents. Because of this, she leaves herself more open to attack - being caught by Robin is just a pleasant side-effect.

Terra embraced religion
When she came back for Things Change, notice that she's wearing the traditional sailor suit uniform. That's not common outside of Japan, or at least not in America, other than for Catholic high school girls. So, we can deduce that after being set free from her statue, Terra did remember everything but turned to religion for forgiveness, renouncing her powers (which she must have decided were evil) and enrolling in a Catholic school.
  • School uniforms are not uncommon in the U.S., not just at religious schools but at private schools of all sorts. It's only in public schools that they're rare.
    • Still, I like this idea. If there is ever a new season(Which there won't be) I hope they do this(Which they won't)

Transformers Animated takes place in the same world as Teen Titans.
Superheroes and Supervillains already exist in the Transformers' world, and both series share a similar art style. Teen Titans has a bit of a zeerust retro-futuristic feel. The two never meet because Transformers takes place in Detroit and Teen Titans takes place in a city that resembles San Francisco. They each have their own problems to deal with.
  • Or all the Titans are, you know, dead of old age by the time of the Autobots.
    • Or died in action, a superhero's life isn't a safe one. Alternately, they decided to stay in Japan after Trouble In Tokyo.
    • However, do we ever really get an accurate time? When the police dress up like Imperial stormtroopers, and nobody bats an eye at demons, robots, mutants, and aliens any more than they would a convenience store robbery, then it probably is the future. The fact that robots are more common for service in Detroit simply means that Detroit is far more mechanized than Jump City, which is saying a lot when even Johnny Rancid can get his hands on Godzilla-sized robots in short order.

Teen Titans is in the same continuity as The Batman (that is, the SECOND animated series that's not in the DCAU).
  • Also, rather unfortunately, no one cares about timeline continuity on The Batman. Thus, you could shoehorn almost anything in.
    • But these shows have very different versions of Killer Moth. If the two Killer Moths are two different characters altogether, the show being set in The Batman's continuity makes perfect sense.
      • Well, The Batman's Killer Moth was mutated on Robin's second adventure, and Teen Titans takes place several years later. Killer Moth gets slightly less mutated, regains custody of his daughter when she realizes he's not so pathetic anymore, and they move to... The City.
      • And uses the mutagens extracted from his own system to create Silkie and his brethren. Possibly also experiments on Fang, cursing him with Awesome either as a favor to Kitten, or as punishment for getting too close to Kitten.
      • That, or Kitten just has strange taste in boyfriends.
    • I think The Brave And The Bold is a more likely possibility.
      • Except for the fact animation in The Batman is closer to Teen Titans than The Brave and The Bold and Robin in The Batman looks more like Robin in Teen Titans then the one we saw in The Brave and The Bold.

Had Teen Titans go for more seasons, Jericho would have his own mini-arc.
Because, in the comics, he was Deathstroke/Slade Wilson's son. And he gained a bit more screentime than the other Titans that appeared, becoming Raven's friend and everything.
  • In the GO!comics I'd like know where the hell that relationship came from. It appeared the two were on a sort of double date with Robin and Starfire. Explanation? LORD FORBID! And in the brief continuity comics where Red Raven Returns Jericho is nowhere to be found. I'm personally a Jericho/Raven shipper, so I'm not complaining about the microscopic screen time that relationship got, but still it would be nice for some backstory. This little rant really should be for Just Bugs Me, I know, but I just had to vent some.
    • They probably added this in because of the relationship Raven and Jericho had in the original comics.
  • In the original comics, Jericho the possessor becomes possessed. This would be an interesting thing for the show to adapt.

Had Teen Titans go for more seasons, Starfire would have her own mini-arc.
  • All the Titans had story arcs except Starfire, she would easily get one.
  • If they hadn't used up the Blackfire story in the second episode Sisters, that would have made an awesome arc.

Theories for the origins of the villains...
  • Atlas and Spike: Spike, who seemed much more tech savy then his "Master" Atlas, may have built him to beat in challenges. Atlas was made self-learning and got his "Stronger is better" attitude by beating Spike so many times and wagered Spike in a game in which if he lost, he would be the servent to Atlas.
    • Alternately, Atlas isn't a robot at all- he's a cyborg, but only his brain is human. He had it transferred to a mechanical body because he felt it was superior, and now denies that he was ever human. Spike was originally just a mechanic he hired to take care of him, but over time he browbeat him into little more than a personal slave.
  • Kardiak - a combination of a pacemaker and an AI gone haywire.
    • Alternately, it was created by a Mad Scientist for the express purpose of kidnapping children for his experiments (best not to dwell on why he or she needed children specifically). Since then, the creator either died or was arrested, and Kardiak, not smart enough to know better, keeps committing purposeless kidnaps over and over again.
    • Or the creator is Kardiak— he accidentally merged with or turned himself into a biomenchanical monster, and now helplessly acts out his primary function over and over.
    • Or Kardiak is something from my nightmares.
  • The Amazing Mumbo was a down-on-his-luck stage magician who somehow managed to get his hands on a real magic hat and wand. These gave him incredible magical powers...at the price of his sanity.
    • This has been confirmed by Word of God.
      • Did they say where he got them? Neuron? Klarion?
  • Cinderblock was likely a creation of Slade's, as he almost always is seen working for him. His limited intelligence and need to have someone tell him what to do led to his joining up with the Brotherhood later on.
  • Adonis was a rather wimpy geek who got bullied mercilessly, until he finally snapped, invented or stole a suit of Powered Armor and went on a rampage, adopting the mannerisms of the Jerk Jocks who'd previously tormented him as a sort of real-life power fantasy.
    • Alternately, Adonis was a Jerk Jock with enough money to buy a suit of Powered Armor, and just likes to show it off.
      • And after years of using the suit exclusively to move, his muscles have atrophied, leaving him ironically looking like the pale scrawny geeks he used to torment. The knowledge that he is no longer strong or intimidating enough to be a bully without the suit has made him delusional— he still thinks he's buff.
  • For the HIVE-FIVE Canon Foreigners:
    • Private HIVE is a Super Soldier and descendant of a prestigious American general of the HIVE. He's got a lot to live up too, especially since many of his peers and teachers think he only got into the HIVE Academy through favoritism.
    • See-More was a blind teen from Egypt with an archeologist mother. When an alien symbiote attached to his face and allowed him to see again, he used other reverse-engineered alien technology to design a helmet to contain and control its powers. Unfortunately, said alien symbiote also had a distant relation to the Emerald Eye, and turned him towards the side of villainy.
    • Billy Numerous is an American southwestern teen that has several conflicting origins, due to the fact that each Billy tends to have it's own memories, but it doesn't bother him all that much. He and his clones tend to live for the now.
    • Kyd Wykkyd is an ancient Human Popsicle from old England with a cowl that allows him to phase through solid objects and space. He's mute and can only speak through telepathy.
    • Jinx is a half-demon (see the theory near the bottom). Or a Spliced-up Mafia princess.
  • Mother May-Eye is this world's version of a Beldam from Coraline.
  • Puppet King was an Evil Sorcerer who tried for immortality using a puppet as a Soul Jar- and accidentally transferred hs entire mind into it. At first he wanted to get his own body back- but then he thought about it, and decided he take over a bunch of other people's bodies instead- specifically, superpowered bodies. The rest is history.
  • Fang was the result of an attempt by Killer Moth to splice human and spider DNA together. The result wasn't quite what he'd expected - but he kept Fang around because Kitten liked the look.
  • Mad Mod was a successful fashion designer in the 60's and 70's, and fiercely patriotic to England. But when the 80's rolled along, with new American ideas and fashions, it put him out of business, as his target market flocked to American styles. This led him to hate the American influence on his country, and the fickleness of teenagers. And he became a technical genius by studying at Birmingham Polytechnic.
    • Legendsverse fan, huh?
    • Alternately, he was exiled from the UK for some significant offense (killing suspected IRA members out of "patriotism" or something equally delusional) and given that he can never go home, he tries to recreate his home everywhere else.
    • or it wasn't American style, it was punk style after The Sex Pistols became popular, he went insane, because he thought they were teaching young people to be outright hooligans.
    • Or, he's a version of Giles who ended up in this dimension, but the dimensional transit drove him mad (looking into the Untempered Schism maybe?). He knows that it's his job to educate young teenagers who fight evil, and he remembers something about a high school, but he doesn't know what to do about it, and so he does whatever comes to mind. This explains how he would have the magical knowledge to bind Raven in "Mad Mod", and how he is able to capture the team in the first place despite his age: his experience fighting vampires. Also he recognizes that Raven is part-demon, and so is fixated only on the Titans, not distracted by HIVE or anyone else.

Teen Titans is set in either part of The Great Dark Beyond or The Twisting Nether
Raven comes from a place called "Azarath," perhaps another way of pronouncing (or even the result of linguistic drift away from) Azeroth, the main world of the Warcraft setting. Given that Azarath is supposedly a place set up between all dimensions and Raven does not seem at all troubled with futuristic technology, it could be that Azeroth was destroyed and/or sucked into The Twisting Nether 900 years (as given in the comics) prior to the events of Teen Titans. The refugees of Azeroth would have come together under the leadership of Azar, who may have named himself after the fallen planet, to help him in his plan to expel their evil so as to bring forth and ultimately slay Trigon. Bringing the refugees to the Twisting Nether safely could have been accomplished by any of the Warcraft casting classes, but Azar's plan could theoretically be done by any of the casting classes besides the druids or shamans. This makes more sense, given that all of the refugees Raven remembers seem to be humans or partly so and humans, like the Blood Elves and Undead, have access to all casting classes save druids and shamans. Further, Trigon as a demon would work just fine as a member of the Burning Legion and more specifically resembles some pictures of Kil'jaedan, the last of the leaders of The Burning Legion. Finally, Raven's Green Lantern Ring magics can (and have) duplicated spells of any of the casting classes accessible to humans, in practice closely resembling those of the Warlock and Mage and in effects (visual and actual) those of the Priest.

Robin's Briefcase from "All Revved Up" contained...
A composite video account of the team's origin, as presented in the very next episode, "Go!". He called it his most prized possession. Certainly he would not want the mook villains to have it, and he would especially not want it to fall into the hands of A-Listers like Brain or Slade. Since "Go!" makes a point of Robin saying twice that he's gone solo, it may be this video was made with the help of Batman whom he approached both for help and to make certain perhaps that Slade wasn't him in disguise (See WMG above). After a shouting match, they settled matters in a limited way, and Batman helped him construct the video as a gift to his friends. They parted ways more amicably, but Batman was still curious enough to peek in during the last issues of Teen Titans Go! Comics.
  • It could contain a photo of his parents (and siblings if he has one), or a present his parents gave him, that's the only thing he has from his pre-Robin life. It might even be his old circus uniform. That's why Red X decides to let Robin win (see WMG above).
  • A copy of a Titans Go! comic.
  • I theorize it contained a Pulp Fiction reference.
  • Wait... Am I the only one who thought it was porn?
    • Probably not.
    • His secret "files" on every Female Metahuman on Earth.
  • A plushie of Batman!
  • Legit proof of his heavily implied secret identity as Richard "Dick" Grayson.

Many if not all of the go-karting villains from "All Revved Up" were imposters.
Ding-dong Daddy has a small army of robots and a mobile machine shop. Mad Mod and Slade have used robot doubles and holograms, not to mention Replacement!Cyborg, so the technology exists in canon.

The Bad Future in "How Long Is Forever?" was only Starfire's hallucination.
It's exactly what she was worrying about before she went into the wormhole. And the amount of time that has passed seems very inconsistent from one Titan to the next.
  • Jossed by the comic series, in which Nightwing travels back in time and meets the Titans, except for his past self.
    • What comic series?
    • She did tell Robin about him being Nightwing when she came back. Maybe he drew inspiration from that, so he became Nightwing even though it was just a hallucination.

Terra is suffering from Dissociative Fugue
She was already having trouble before she met the Titans since she couldn't control her powers, and then her "apprenticeship" with Slade, then turning on Slade and possibly burning out her powers while she killed him. The physical and mental stress became so much that she has subconsciously chosen to forget and made a new identity while her mind works through comprehending the stress. One day she's going to wake up as Terra and have no recollection of being a schoolgirl.
  • It's strongly implied in the episode that she does truly remember and is only faking amnesia.
    • It could be that Beast Boy explained what happened to Terra, or it was on the news, and she's merely telling Beast Boy that he has to move on from Terra, because 1) it's annoying her and 2) she can see how much Terra's memory hurt him, and having her, a Terra-look-alike, around him will only make things worse. This could apply whether she's suffering from dissociative fugue or not.

Terra was freed when Raven defeated Trigon.
When Terra absorbed the power from the volcano, she turned to stone. Then Trigon entered our world, and he turned just about everyone to stone. When Raven blasted him into the next dimension (or killed him, depending on what you believe happened), all of the stone people turned back to normal...and I mean ALL of them.

Slade himself activated the poison trap built into his mask in "Haunted"
After first seeing the episode, for a while I thought that it was Brother Blood (as Big Bad of that season) who activated the Mind Rape compound, but successive rewatches have changed my mind. For one, Blood never shows any interest in Robin, so why activate a trap tailored specifically for him, and it doesn't fit his MO (if he'd done it, you can bet he would have bragged about it). The only real connection between Blood and the mask was the glowing red eye at the end- which could just as easily have shown the presence of the undead spirit of Slade himself, who either managed to sneak briefly away from Trigon to conduct some private revenge, or was actually allowed to do so by his new boss, who was simply amused by that sort of thing. Another possibility is that he simply had the remote that controlled it on him when he was sucked into hell, and it was restored along with the rest of his armor by Trigon's magic. He then tested it to see if it could punch a signal between dimensions, and apparently it could (again, perhaps with some demonic help).
  • He also used mind-control on Cinderblock (who, in many of his appearances, is Slade's lackey), using his newly-acquired powers, to lure the Titans out and, once again, separate Robin from the rest of the group so that the dust could take effect.
  • Alternatively, it was a dead-man's switch, and the dust had settled on the mask and just came up with it when Robin picked it up.
  • Or the butler did it. It's always the butler.
    • Hey leave Alfred out of this, the man's a saint.
      • Actually in the earlier episodes Slade had a butler named Wintergreen.
  • The Joker did it. Yeah.
  • Slade hired Scarecrow to help. Come on, it's clearly his fear gas!

Raven draws her powers directly from Trigon
Raven draws her powers directly from Trigon through a psychic link, the same one that allowed him to use her as a "portal". When he came through from his dimension to ours, once that link was of no more use to him, he broke it, leaving her powerless. Then Raven fought back, forcibly fixing said link between her and her father. As she tapped into his power, she drained it from him into her, making him weaker and subsequently easier to defeat. Then she didn't kill him; she blasted him into, and trapped him in, another dimension. That way, she can still access his powers, but he can't harm anyone.
  • Also, when she gets angry, she starts to channel some of Trigon, hence the evil eyes / sharp-toothed Slasher Smile / black tentacles.
  • Also, since Raven draws her power from Trigon, this would mean that whenever she uses her powers, she draws Trigon a little closer to this dimension. That's why, even though she could defeat almost any villain (as long as they did not imprison her), she uses her powers sparingly and never to their full extent
  • Alternatively, Raven draws her powers from her own soul (her "soulself" being Soulfire, only it's black because she is half-demon) which is why when she uses her powers too much (like the first time she Mind Raped Doctor Light) she goes all demonic, since at those times she actually has less soul.

Trigon lives
Raven only destroyed his manifestation on this plane and banished his spirit back to Hell; in a few centuries (short enough time for a being like him), he'll be back to full strength and ready to make another bid for multiversal dominance. See right above

In the "How Long Is Forever?" timeline Raven committed suicide.
Notice that she lives in an abandoned building with no access to food, water or even a bed, you never see her hood down, she has traded her blue robe out for a white one and even Starfire notes that her mind is gone. With no friends to turn to and only being a tool of the apocalypse to look forward to she lost the will to live.
  • Alternatively, she may've actually prevented the apocalypse, but pretty much gave up her soul to do so. She then was reborn as "White Raven".

Raven is a distant ancestor of Gandalf
See the alternate theory above.

Slade is the Crime Syndicate universe version of Deadpool.
Self-explanatory.

Blackfire's lack of morality and disdain from her sister stems from being deemed a freak by her home planet standards

In the comics Blackfire's hate for her sister came from the fact that Blackfire was suppose to be next in line for the throne but because she couldn't fly she was considered crippled by Tameranean standards and wasn't deemed fit to rule by her people so her younger sister was next in line. However in the animated series Blackfire can fly so that doesn't work, but, in Betrothed we see that Blackfire is the only Tamarenean to not have red hair and orange skin so it's very possible Blackfire was considered deformed on her planet so like the comics her little sister was made next in line (Starfire even mentions being next in line for the throne) , which angered Blackfire causing her to betray Tamaran to the Gordanians who then captured Starfire as a prize (as seen in Go)
  • A sound theory, but it doesn't quite hold when you read the show's tie-in comics, issue Wildfire. We're shown a more in-depth look at Starfire's backstory, including a few shots of her parents. Blackfire gets her looks from their mother.
  • In "Betrothed" there are a couple of background Tamaraneans with dark hair.
    • They may still be considered freaks, a genetic mutation that occurs every now and again. However, it might be that it only very rarely is passed down from parent to child, which is why they let Starfire's mother marry her father (but not considered a true member of the royal family)...only for their oldest child to inherit the freaky genes. (...What're you looking at me like that for? It is a WMG page.)
      • Another possibility can be that she was disowned for turning Purple instead of a monster, or some other Tameranean biological stages didn't come out "right."
  • Alternately, it's Starfire who's considered a freak (remember, kindness = weakness on Tamaran). Blackfire might be closer to the Tamaran ideal, and is lashing out at Starfire because she's different, and because she represents a part of Tamaran that wants to be different.

Blackfire is a cultural throwback
It's said that the Tameraneans are a warrior society, yet Starfire, after her debut, doesn't seem that warriorish. Blackfire, on the other hand, does. Now extrapolate a little from "Troq". Starfire says it's used to mean 'nothing' or 'worthless', but there could be more to it when you tie in the warrior society. The Tameraneans are currently a peaceful, friendly people, but in the past the were space nazis who came being destruction and left 'nothing' behind. They were a 'worthless' people who could only make war, not art. Then, a generation or two ago, they went through a cultural revolution and remade themselves, much the same way Germany did after WWII. Starfire has embraced the now, aside from training she got in warrior arts, but Blackfire longs to bring back the Tameranean glory days of conquest.
  • Also, it's noted in the comics that some—but not all—of Starfire and Blackfire's powers come from science experiments they underwent. Extrapolating from this, previous powers like flight might have come from species-wide super soldier programs the Tameraneans did to themselves in the past.

Robin is none of the previous Robins.
The proof? Robin is clearly Asian, as shown by the The Movie, but none of the past Robins have been. If he wasn't Asian, his "disguise" as a Japanese punk would never have worked.
  • He wore sunglasses. You couldn't see his eyes anyway.
  • Even if you could see his eyes, most people may not have looked closely enough to care. That said, loads of people gave him funny looks when he walked into that bar, and the detective recognised him.
  • If you'll allow "Asian" to include "Arab", then Robin could possibly be Damian Wayne. And the people in the bar would still see through his "disguise".

Raven was PMSing during The Movie
In the movie, Raven is shown being unusually cruel to Beast Boy, even given her "normal" attitude. Explanation #1- she's actually averting No Periods, Period, and going through her... cycle.
  • So she WASN'T annoyed by Beast Boy's "told-you-so"?
    • Nah, she was probably annoyed, it was just magnified due to her cycle. Her anger is like the sun, her cycle is like the magnifying glass, and BB just happened to be the poor ant who annoyed her. XD

There is a different reason for Raven's cruelty in The Movie
During The Movie, Starfire and Robin were totally going through the kid-friendly version of UST. Raven (as an empath) could sense those feelings, and they were giving her a headache (an Unresolved Sexual Tension Headache?), causing her to be snappy and jumpy. Unfortunately for him, the outlet of her rage just happened to be Beast Boy.
  • OR, she felt their UST, and it made her realise her feelings for Beast Boy. She tried to reject those feelings, making her much more snappy against him than usual. Since Trouble In Tokyo is the last we see of the Titans (at least, their animated counterparts - I've never read Teen Titans Go!, so I don't now if that carries on after the show), she may well admit her feelings later on... [BB x Rae shipper]
  • OR MAYBE, just maybe, she wanted Robin for herself, and was frustrated that the inevitable was occurring without her having a say, and BB just happened to be a really convenient target for her frustration.

Beast Boy is secretly the second-in-command
As a former member of the Doom Patrol he has possibly more experience than Robin and knows the location of the secret emergency base (which all the core Titans probably do anyway), and in the second-to-last episode of the series he functions as the only team leader even after the other core Titans show up and steps down when (and only when) Robin is freed an allowed to take over the assault. Its obvious that some of the joking and behavior is an act not only to hide his own insecurites, but to keep the team's spirits up in some of the more hopeless-looking situations. It's possible Robin actually asked him to do this (and possibly play the image up) so no one would suspect him should something happen to Robin. Beast Boy's status as leader is only invoked in the most extreme of situations due to the Titans being more than capable of functioning without Robin for awhile and because BB is naturally uncomfortable with the position. Some of his joking and immaturity is genuine due to finally being out of Mento's controlling and authoritative influence, and thus he he "cutting loose" for the first time and thus he is something of a dork and slacker, but still a highly trained and competant crimefighter.
  • In Apprentice: Part 2, during Robin's temporary absence, it is shown (or at least heavily implied) that Cyborg is acting as leader, so it is also heavily implied that Cyborg is second in command. This is backed up during the episodes with the Titans East, where it is shown that Cyborg is a good leader and secretly yearns to be one, which would make sense if he were second in command.
    • Considering how Cyborg and Beast Boy are such close friends, they may share the position of second-in-command.

The Teen Titans actually have a fanbase in Japan in universe
This is why Beast Boy could go into a kareoke bar, and sing a song about the Teen Titans- they already have a fanbase in Japan, and, in universe, Hi Hi Puffy Ami Yumi (or equivalent) actually did write a song for them. This is also why BB has so many fangirls, it's not just because he's cute. In fact, there probably are Teen Titans cosplayers, Teen Titans songs, and an underground Teen Titans Doujinshi writing network. XD
  • Except that for them, they're writing Real Person Fic!
    • Robin and Starfire are canonically shipped on the internet in-universe, so this makes perfect sense.

The Chief was killed soon after the formation of the Doom Patrol.
The Chief created the Doom Patrol to face the threats of the Brain. However soon after, the Chief gets killed, along with three other members (Nudge, Grunt, and Vortex), by the Brotherhood of Evil despite the team's best efforts. This led to Mento becomes the leader and his obsession of stopping the Brotherhood of Evil.
  • Alternatively, the Chief was evil like in the Grant Morrison run, and they found out and locked him up.

The Teen Titans universe was not a TV show, but a pocket universe created by Larry the Titan for his own amusement.
He observed the Robins of the DCAU, and decided to create his own "spin-off" world. That's why no secret identities are used and a group of kids lives alone with no adult supervision in very public view, yet Child Services never says boo.

Madame Rouge is...

A Machine

Let's think about it, shall we? She can't be bargained or reasoned with. She doesn't feel pity, remorse, or fear. And she absolutely will not stop, ever, until her target is dead. Not to mention the fact she's Nigh Invulnerable. As for her origin, Sky Net sent 2 T-x's back in time to kill John Connor. The Terminator that made it was the one in Rise of the Machines. The first one, however, was accidentally sent to the Teen Titans universe and lost its memory. It was discovered by the Brotherhood, and they Promptly trained her to their ways. They called her... Madame Rouge!
  • I also expect someone to say "Where's Arnold Schwarzenegger when you need him?" every time she appears on screen.

A sentient blob of mud

It at least explains the strangely disgusting way she reforms when she's literally blown to bits.

Exactly as she was in the original comics

Self-explanatory.

A Gholam She's a cold-blooded, brutal assassin, she can bend and twist her body in all sorts of unnatural ways, she's nigh-on unkillable- it all fits! She doesn't drink blood like a gholam does, but it could easily be handwaved that she does, but we just don't see it because it wouldn't get past the censors. Overall, her resemblance to this creature is rather scary...

An Alien Shape Shifter

Speedy becomes a heroine addict
Or was.
  • Interesting pun there; you misspelled "heroin" as "heroine", but the phrase still fits his character; in the comics, Speedy was both a heroin addict and an insufferable womanizer.

Teen Titans takes place in the same continuity as Justice League
Uhh, Justice League is part of the DCAU, so see that one theory above.

Everyone in the Teen Titans has a platonic, family-like, relationship with each other
Except for, originally, BB and Terra plus Starfire and Robin. BB may have originally liked Raven, or may have just wanted to impress or get a reaction out of her, though. Maybe Cyborg and Bumblebee too.

Terra has amnesia
Already stated but.. In the comics Terra died, hoisted by her own petard. A few years later she reappears however it's shown that she was a random 21st century orphan that was given Terra's DNA which changed her into Terra, and was warped to the past. It is later shown though that she was in fact a resurrected Terra. Not that she ever learned that though. Terra 2 had false memories and Terra in the finale apparently didn't remember hers. She could have been faking it because she wanted to forget everyone, stop being a hero, start a new "normal" life, or maybe not to risk cause more trouble for her friends. Or she could have amnesia and truly not remember anything. She was trapped in rock for so long, and either as a side-effect or as a result of how she was freed, she lost her memories. Or possibly she does have at least a few of her memories but cannot understand what they are, so she followed BB who apparently knew. She however didn't want to learn her past or be a super hero..Or did she? Her behavior is vague enough for this to be plausible. She even stated that she only remembers high school. Call me Freudian but she doesn't even seem too into her friends or life. She seems..Empty, bored, and alone.

Terra was right in the finale; Her name wasn't Terra
It's Tara. BB kept on calling her her superhero name and not her "real" one.
  • ...so Tara can hear how things are spelled, then?
    • Tara is pronounced with a hard A so it's like Tar(as in the stuff used on roads)-a
    • No they're pronounced the same way
    • actually they are pronounced differently
    • It depends on the person. My sister's friend's named Tara, pronouced Tear-a. My friend Tara's name's pronounced Tahr-a.

Mother May-Eye was a very important member of The Brotherood of Evil then people would guess
The core 4 group of the Bo E more then likely doesn't have a magical empowered member (possibly General Immortus, I'm not up on my DP history). So comes MM, and in turn of her magic, she gets Malchior, Puppet King and Mad Mod to join forces with the Bo E for their personal reasons (ie Mod's youth, Malchior being freed from Raven's book and PP getting animated again). It would explain how Malchior and Mad Mod got in the final season along with Puppet King. For the Bo E she got in because of hatred against young superheroes as long as she got to keep a few for herself.

The H.I.V.E was quite a different organisation before Brother Blood got his hands on it
In the first appearance of the HIVE 5, we see Slade negotiating with a a group of sinister people from the organisation, which has a different acronym, and generally doesn't much resemble the organisation that later becomes more prominent in the plot. But this doesn't have to be a simple Retcon- given Brother Blood's Mind Control abilities, he could well have taken over the organisation in the interim, and made everyone think he was always in charge. Yeah, got the idea from a Fan Fic I've long forgotten.
  • That and the fact that the H.I.V.E Mistress was on a milk carton in a blink-and-miss-it cameo, means he may have gotten his hands dirty too.
    • The academy's full name is the "HIVE Academy for Extraordinary Young People", which I always took to mean that the Academy was originally a subsidiary of the HIVE organization (since that acronym stands for something completely different), existing to train agents both for the HIVE's own use and to hire out as mercenaries. Then Blood came in, did something to the Headmistress (killed her himself, had someone else do it, Mind Raped her into a coma, etc.) and used his powers to take over and start running the Academy as his own private army, without anyone actually high up at the HIVE being able to do anything about it.

Why were the proto-Titans all in Jump City when Starfire and the Gordanians arrived?
We know why the teamed up in the first place- to stop Star from tearing up the town, and then to save her and the city- but why were they there in the first place? Theories:
  • Robin, having recently struck out on his own, decided to establish himself as a hero in his own right. He knew that Jump City had a major problem with "weird" crime, so he thought it was as good a place as any to start.
  • Beast Boy's reasons were probably pretty much the same, except that he left the Doom Patrol, rather than Batman.
  • Raven likely had a premonition of some sort that something big was going to happen there, and she needed to be involved.
  • Cyborg might just be from Jump City, either originally or because he moved there after his "accident". Note that he makes reference to his neighborhood- that level of protectiveness and possessiveness makes it seem like he's been there a while.
  • Or it could have been an external influence - in the comics, Raven came to the Titans to ask for help to fight Trigon. Maybe the people of Azarath - perhaps Azar herself - used a supernatural influence to drive all of the Titans there and keep them together, because she knew Raven would need help to fight the prophecy.

Terra and Beast Boy are sixteen
That's their ages in the comics. They seem around fourteen though, but that's just them being Older Than They Look.

Slade isn't Deathstroke.
He's Grant Wilson. In the Teen Titans universe,the real Slade Wilson was training his son to become a mercenary,however this Grant decided to go rouge-stealing his father's identity and working for grander things.

Slade is Robin's father.
I have always thought this. As far as I am aware, the series doesn't confirm or deny.
  • Only hole being the established character histories of both Slade and Robin, wherein Robin is an orphan.
    • So was Luke Skywalker.
  • This Robin is Dick Grayson; he watched his father die. Unless his mom had an affair about 16 or 17 years ago...

Much of the episode Fractured actually took place on Cyborg's grandma's fridge, as pointed out.
As Cyborg asks the rhetorical question in... question, the camera zooms out to reveal his grandma's kitchen, hinting that this may be the case. The Titans were most likely transported into a picture drawn by one of Cyborg's younger siblings or cousins.
  • Alternately, the entire show takes place on her fridge. Every character, except possibly Cyborg (because it's his grandmas fridge), isn't real in-universe.

Starfire's English is broken because...
When kissing Robin (who most likely knows several languages from Batman's training), she learns them all at once, which means one or two would have to get sort of broken on the way. It's kinda like trying to download a bunch of files at once.

  • I always assumed it was because she never consciously spoke in English. Rather, the kiss she had with Robin gave her the ability to translate sentences "on the way out." That it, she thinks and forms the sentences in Tameranian, but her mouth forms them in English instead. That's why she is unable to use contractions or understand idioms- because those are "shortcuts" used by people who actually speak the language and apply meaning to the words.
    • Above theory supported by this non-native English speaker.

Azarath Metrion Zinthos is the universe's True Name
Azarath was nicknamed that because it was a part of the universe, and at the time of naming, assumed to be one-third, or important enough to warrant one third of the name.

Without Starfire, the Titans are torn apart.
This was hinted at during the How Long Is Forever episode, but it's the WAY this occurs this WMG adresses. So, Starfire goes through the portal, leaving the other Titans going "what the hell". Life continues, and everything that happens in the subsequent episodes happens, but without Starfire. The first big thing would be when Cyborg goes undercover at the Hive. Things play out slightly differently, and, while Cyborg still didn't join the Hive, there was no Starfire there to reassure him that he was still a normal person.

So now, we have Cyborg likely beginning to question himself and everything he's doing. The next really big event for the Titans was Terra, and her betrayl of them to Slade. This cut Beast Boy deep, and with his best friend getting broody, BB doesn't have much interms of outlets. He devots himself to video games exclusively (well, more than he already does), spending whatever free time he has playing them.

Then, there's Robin, and the events of Haunted. He survives the Mind Rape, but it comes extremely close to killing him. This serves to increase his obsession with finding and catching Slade, and, at this point, the only one truly concerned is Raven, but her own problems rear their ugly head a short while later. Just before this, however, we have the Titans East two parter, where, in this No-Starfire timeline, Cyborg decides to stay at East, eventually joining the Hive.

Now, back to Raven. Robin does what he can to help her try to avert the prophecy of Trigon's arrival, and Raven does find a way to keep him off of Earth - at a VERY high cost. Whatever she does, she is now a shell of her former self, possibly even insane.

With his friends gone through the various paths described, Robin is the only one still devoted to crime-fighting, maybe moreso with his Slade obsession. If we take into account the events of the episode X, Robin also has doubts about being a Hero, and eventually leaves the identity of Robin behind, not wanting to sully the work of Bruce and everything he does. People would think differently about Batman if there's a Robin out not acting neccesarily heroic, after all. So, he becomes someone more Anti-Hero - Nightwing.

  • Except that early in the episode, the bell-chime things broke and scattered on the floor. They were still there 20 years later, implying that the Titans had broken up very quickly after Starfire left, either that same day or immediately after.

A whole bunch of theories.
The Robin we see here actually an alternate Damian Wayne.Batman and Talia had a one night stand,and she became pregnant.She decided to donate the child to the Grayson family,which was given the name Dick Grayson.As with the main Dick Grayson,he was adopted by Batman and became independent.However this happened earlier,and Bruce didn't feel Robin was ready.

Bruce felt he needed to do an unorthodox method of making sure Robin would be ready-so he created an alternate personality,Slade.This personality was just like Batman,only willing to go to extremes to accomplish his goals.Most villains beyond the Big Bads were simply metahumans he gathered,and paid money to be villains-so Robin and his friends would have someone to fight against,for training against real threats.

When Robin completely refused to be Slade's apprentice,the Slade persona changed.It lost its Well-Intentioned Extremist side,becoming Batman's Superpowered Evil Side.After being killed and later resurrected by Trigon,Slade became the dominant personality.However Bruce's personality still existed,and hoped that,by becoming flesh and blood,he'd regain control.

the Titans didn't win the fight with the brotherhood of evil
Now, It makes sense for Beast boy's team to be able to find the BOE hideout, but what about the groups led by Cyborg, Raven, or Starfire? They never got the memo! The answer... they never showed up. When BB's Group fist showed up, they were taken down quickly, but thanks to memory alteration by Phobia, they think they did. After ever defeat, each of the titans was frozen, but had their minds altered to think they has won and escaped. The plan was to make their "hero" lives miserable (BB's interaction with Terra was one example, In that one Slade actually managed to get into BB's head to try and warn him) and then thoroughly mess up the heads of the other Titans (and H.I.V.E. kids, because if one was able to switch sides, they may follow her example, and this would undermine the plan.) Meanwhile, the BOE has released a virus which is slowly killing off the human race (Except Slade, because the guy is immortal). Once every human on earth is dead, they will "break the spell" on the titans and show them what happened in their absence. They will all break down and agree to serve the BOE, as it's the only semblance of humanity left. They may then interrogate Starfire and begin plans to take over other planets.

Slade was working for Bruce

  • Doing what, exactly? I could buy "Testing Robin" for most of season one, since Robin's the main target throughout those episodes and at least some of the stolen tech is from Wayne Enterprises, so it wouldn't take much of a stretch to say the rest of it was as well (or was covertly owned by Bruce anyway). But when season two roles around, he shifts his focus to breaking Terra and then conquering the city with her and his robot army, and in season four he literally makes a Deal with the Devil and brings hell to earth. I can't see Batman at his worst approving of that; if Slade started out working for him, he almost certainly went rogue at some point, likely between the first and second arcs.

Starfire's language-learning ability.

In the comics at least, she freely admits that can learn a language from any contact, but she prefers kissing. Why? I theorize that it's because the digestive enzymes in saliva act as a catalyst that speeds up the process. Much like the myelin sheathes on the axons in the human brain regarding electrical conduction, saliva between the two points of contact speeds the process up to almost "instantaeneous."
  • Either that, or it was a Love at First Sight thing, and Starfire just wanted an excuse to kiss Robin without letting her guard down. Why did she kiss that boy in Tokyo? Um...he reminded her of Robin??? Or she remembered and was embarrassed about what happened in Go! and wanted to keep her excuse believable and consistent.

Slade was playing Trigon who thought he was playing Slade.

Slade knew that the prophesy must be fulfilled, but also recognized that the prophesy only stated that Trigon would come to earth, not that Trigon would rule Earth forever. He decided to ensure Trigon's ascension and was rude to him to convince Trigon to renege on their deal, at which point, Slade set in motion Trigon's downfall by leading Robin to Raven.
  • I always got the impression that they were playing each other, and Slade won. Heck, in one of my fanfics I have him take credit for Trigon's defeat during a conversation with Robin (which Robin doesn't take well.
  • OR, he ensured Trigon's ascension, planning to later take over Trigon's reign using his master manipulation and Determinator skills. Thus he would have supernatural powers and the world at his feet. Unfortunately, Trigon let him go before his true plans came to fruition.

Negative Man is from Azarath.

This probably isn't even true, but seriously, his power just happens to look exactly like Raven's???
  • Raven's powers are caused by her demon heritage. This might mean that 'Larry' is also half-demon (based on the theory below - that Jinx is half-demon because she has greyish skin, like Raven, and other improbable colouring - this may well be true, since we can't see his physical features, so he could also have greyish skin).

Jinx is also half-demon.
Albeit her father/mother (depending on which one was the demon) is a much less powerful demon than Trigon, more along the lines of a mischievous demon (which explains her bad luck powers, compared to Raven's darker powers).

Think about it. Raven's greyish skin tone? Probably caused by her demon heritage...now notice that Jinx ALSO had a greyish skin tone. Raven has improbable blue hair and blue eyes; Jinx has improbable pink hair and pink eyes (with slit pupils, to boot) - hell, Jinx even has horn-shaped hair! They're both magical action girls with dark powers (that glow - their eyes both glow as well); the difference is that Raven went down the Bad Powers, Good People route, whilst Jinx believed in Bad Powers, Bad People.
Jinx: I'm bad luck. Good was never really an option.
  • Alternatively, she was a mafia princess who was spliced up at a young age as an experimental cancer treatment. She also learned about her family's doings at a young age, perhaps by watching her Dad or Uncles "collect insurance". She also witnessed the gruesome murder of one of a stool pigeon (who may have been an older brother, or some other extremely close relation), and fearing the same could happen to her, was to afraid to join the heros.

  • Perhaps Kyd Wykkyd is part-demon as well- he certainly looks a lot like Raven, and his powers are similar too, from what we see. Maybe he's even full demon- him being The Voiceless because he has no interest in speaking to "common mortals" has a certain appeal.

Jinx's powers aren't actually "bad luck" powers, even if she beleves they are.
Luck - good or bad - is just chance, and Jinx inflicts this "bad luck" on purpose. In reality, it might be chaos, or a lighter version of Raven's powers (I direct your attention to the "Jinx Is Half Demon" theory above).
  • energy manipulation works too
  • Or Wizardry

The reason that Robin's strength and ability seems to fluctuate between episodes.
Robin can take Cinderblock down single-handedly one episode, then is threatened by thugs in another. The reason? Like Raven and Starfire (though much less magical and/or alien), his strength is related to his emotional state.

This is not supernatural in any way; it is a mental thing. In Apprentice: Part One, he can take down Cinderblock so easily because he thinks that Slade is about to freeze his city. Note: Slade. His hatred and anger for the man fueled his strength.

Thunder and Lightning are gods.
Come on...the episode begins with them in the sky, they go back up into the sky to make rain...and they do act like tricker-gods. Not to mention their out-dated clothing.

Slade never intended for Terra to be his apprentice.
He simply used her to emotionally torture the Titans. He still wants Robin to be his apprentice, because deep down, he is a deranged but emotionally starved man with a sick longing for a son, ever since his oldest son died, his other son became mute and he was estranged from his son and wife.

The HIVE Academy is only one facet of the HIVE organization.
The HIVE Academy is grooming and indoctrinating young metahumans to become soldiers and masterminds to work for the actual HIVE. The Brother Blood got his hands on the place, and now controls the entire HIVE organization, not just the academy.
  • Maybe the HIVE Academy is part of the Brotherhood of Evil, and they are all training to be soldiers for that organization.
    • Which would explain the high(?) expectations the Brotherhood had for the HIVE 5. They might have been waiting for Jinx to turn them into an actual good villain team before asking them to join, and why the HIVE 5 (sans Jinx) were at the final battle.

Slade retains some of the pyrokinetic powers.
Why not? There's nothing to contradict it in the show, and it would spice up the next time the Titans come up against him.
  • Actually, there's a possible basis for this in the show, given that the fire-ax he picked up is staying lit throughout his part in the final battle with Trigon.

The Titans East actually deal with more severe crimes than the main titans do
They don't get the colorful villains robbing the banks, they have to deal with hostage situations, murders and other things you see on CSI. Steel City was chosen as the location of the Titans East because the police force was over-burdened, not because there were colorful villains robbing banks. Also, If the city is perpetually cold and cloudy, there's got to be problems with suicides and drug addiction. The Titans East aren't so much a superhero squad, but a fully-functional five-man police force (who happen to have superpowers). By the time Season five rolled around, they have the city under enough control that the titans east could afford to leave the city for a week or two.

Slade's eye wasn't shot out.
In the comics, Slade's right eye was shot out, but when you see his undead skull in The End: Part 2, there is a vertical scar over his right eye. So, instead of grabbing a gun, his enraged (now ex-)wife reached for the nearest blade, a razor perhaps, and slashed at his face, taking out his eye in the process.

Also, it's more plausible, since...well, a bullet through the eye is bound to get into your brain as well, and even Slade would probably not survive that.

  • So, Slade comes home one night crazier than usual. His wife gets the kitchen knife to defend herself. He doesn't like that. Not. One. Bit. So - with his son watching - he takes the knife to her, laughing while he does it! Turns to his son, and he says, "Why so serious, son?" Comes at him with the knife... "Why so serious?" He sticks the blade in his mouth. "Let's put a smile on that face!" And... why so serious?

Más y Menos are Plusle and Minun evolved into human form.
Either that, or Más y Menos evolved into them at some point.

Look at the twins. Then Plusle and Minun. It's the logical conclusion.

Brother Blood didn't suffer from Villain Decay.
Encountering someone - Cyborg - who could resist his mind control made him paranoid and obsessive. He used his mind control more and more instead of subtly so that no-one could escape it, and this downward spiral caused him to become less charismatic and more Jerkass, making him increasingly dependant on the mind control, since they wouldn't work for him otherwise. It's a vicious cycle.

Basically, it was intentional on the creators part.

  • If it was intentional on the writers' part, that's basically intentionally invoking Villain Decay, not averting it, which renders this WMG Null and Void.

Sorry for the crypticness but I love the pairing. Starfire was raped by Blackfire on Tamaran, then had her boyfriend taken.
Blackfire is evil, and she's fun spirrited so being bi-curious isn't too far of a stretch. I believe she just wanted to try it out, and when Star said no, she took it anyway. Also Star kind of repressed it, and only remebers it as Blackfire being a cruel older sister.
  • I like it.

Starfire can speak Raven's natural language.
She gets her speach from a kiss, and they live in that house with nothing to do when the city's not in ruins, so she must have done it at least once to tease the boys. Most likely against Raven's will.
  • What natural language? There's no indication in the comics or the TV show that the people of Azarath don't speak English. Raven spoke it easily in "Go!".
    • Do you mean the spells Raven chants occasionally? (Like in "The Prophecy" Raven starts saying a long string of words after her usual "Azarath, Metrion, Zinthos" to create a portal to Azarath) I don't know if she was speaking an actual language or reciting a spell right then though... It doesn't help that we never see anyone who's actually from Azarath (Arella was a human who lived on Earth originally, if I remember correctly I think she ended up in Azarath after trying to commit suicide or something..) If there IS an actaul language for Azarath, then Raven speaking English can easily be Hand Waved by her being very intelligent/learning to speak it before arriving on Earth.(Arella could have taught her English if none of the other monks spoke it.) There's also the fact that despite not having grown up on Earth, Raven is never fazed by anything around her anymore than the boys who have lived their whole lives there.

Raven is Gay or Bisexual.
She spends more time and detail inspecting Starfire's body during "Switched" than Starfire does inspecting Raven's body. Also, while there's not active rebuffs, even after she gains control over her emotions she shows no interest in any of her male teammates and by that point Starfire and Robin are a clear couple.
  • Raven's hatred and dislike of Terra come from the fact that she is having a hard time suppressing a crush on Terra (her first crush, most likely) and she tries hard not to feel emotion. This is why she's so on Terra's case about control: Raven is projecting.
    • That episode is used as evidence for Ravenx BB shippers as well. Maybe its a combination of jealousy and attraction.
    • A powerful magic-user who fights evil, is the brains of her team, and almost ends the world after Terra's death? You have the wrong show.
      • Don't forget that she only stops after her Badass Normal blackhaired male best friend talks her down. And she goes all white after she uses her magic to win the decisive final battle against evil.
  • Her interaction with Robin are either If It's You, It's Okay or her attempts at familial closeness (given than the closest thing Raven has anyone treating her with familial affection is Mother Mae-Eye).
  • Jossed: Raven and Beast Boy are an official couple in the newer comic series. Doesn't mean she doesn't go both ways...

Robin has abandoned his secret identity altogether.
Whether it's Dick Grayson or Tim Drake/Wayne, whatever you prefer, though this WMG works better with the former than the latter, so I'll use Dick Grayson.

They never mention secret identities on-screen. The other Titans have an excuse since, well, none of them really have much chance for a normal life, since the rest of them are green/alien/demonic/cybernetic. Robin's reason is that after having an argument with Batman, he wanted independence, so he stopped being Bruce's ward to further severe his connections to the man and fully embraced the Robin identity. Dick Grayson is either a) classified a missing person or b) tucked away at a "private school" or somewhere that he is, conveniently, away from the public eye.

Beast Boy nicknamed Nosyarg Kcid "Larry" because he reminded him of Negative Man...somehow...
Negative Man's real name is Lawrence "Larry" Trainor. How does Kcid remind him of Negative Man? Um... Yeah, I don't know. Maybe Larry's just a big, soft child at heart?

Raven isn't entirely aware of the scope of her own powers, or how stable they are.
In Fear Itself and Birthmark, she is visibly startled that she created a horde of abominations with her mind and stopped time respectively. It would also explain why she uses certain powers in certain episodes and never uses them again; she doesn't know how stable they are, and how much they would affect her emotional control. We may be dealing with a Reality Warper unaware here.
  • She probably is. The fragment of her power that she gave to the rest of the team how had no real idea how to use her power was enough to make a god (Trigon is basically Satan, but it counts) scream in pain. He could turn the earth to a cinder just with his presence. She's his daughter. The mixed blood may degrade her power a bit, but if not for the possibility of turning into Trigon-lite she'd be able to think her enemies away.

Some theories on how Malchior got out of the book to join the Brotherhood of Evil.
A: The more likely theory: Someone from the Brotherhood of Evil, probably Madame Rouge, infiltrated the Tower and stole the book out of Raven's room; Raven never noticed the difference because the emotional trauma of having her heart ripped out probably prevents her from checking to make sure he's still there. Malchior was offered his freedom in exchange for allying himself with them, and accepted it. He was pretty eager to get out of that book in Spellbound; he probably figured he could pull a Screw This, I'm Outta Here! if things ever got rough.

B: The kinda cuckoo one, but my personal favorite: Trigon did it during the events of The End. He tried to get Malchior to join him, but, being an independent agent, Malchior distracted Trigon long enough to fly off to a cave somewhere and hunker down, and Trigon couldn't be bothered with killing him. Again, given that Raven probably isn't going to be checking that book to make sure he's still in there, she likely never noticed he was gone until he joined up with the Brotherhood of Evil.

Trigon never had the ability to impede Raven's powers.
At least, to no greater extent than any more powerful magic user can mess with a weaker one. Her powers "came from him", true, but by inheritance- Raven wasn't actually drawing the energy from her magic from him in any direct sense. How'd he make her lose them for most of "The End, Part III"? Simple- he convinced her that he had the ability to block her powers, and since Raven's magic is based on her mental and emotional state, this actually created a block until she got angry enough to break through it.

Slade is Crazy Steve.
It would explain his creepy, creepy interest in Robin.

Red Star's energy is Xenothium.
A connection to Professor Cheng, same/similar appearance... It would explain why Cheng won't take off his hazmat clothes, even though he doesn't really wear them BEFORE the thing with Red Star, who's radioactive.

All the titans are either super rich or royalty.
How else would they have enough money to pay land taxes in Titans Tower alone:
  • Robin is heir to Wayne Enterprises.
  • Cyborg's dad is a well scientist in Star Labs. So by proxy, he gets his pay from Green Arrow.
  • Raven is Trigon's daughter. Even if she didn't exploit that for tribute money, surely there were some valuable artifacts she took from Azarath with her to hawk.
  • Starfire is princess and heir to the Tamaranian throne. With Robins scientific mind he is able to help her gain earth's wealth in exchange for any metallic currency from her homeworld.
  • Beast Boy is heir to Dayton Estates. Though despite that it seems he'd rather mooch off of the other Teammates for more than just pizza money.

The underground library from The Prophecy in Jump City is a Weirdness Magnet.
How else does one city get so many aliens and supervillains? The dark magic residing in the library causes supernatural forces to attract these kinds of characters.
  • Specifically, it's a Hellmouth. As we see in The End, a demon (Trigon) manages to, through having his minion Slade split Raven's blood, manifest and end the world (temporarily). The Jump City Hellmouth is particularly wide: it stretches from the underground library to directly under the Titans' Tower. Everyone besides the Titans were frozen, so the Scoobies couldn't get there in time to help.
  • Also, when Slade was tunneling under the Tower, toppling the Tower was just a fringe benefit. He was already working for Trigon, and wanted to clear a path to the Hellmouth and make it easy to access.
    • Trigon is the physical manifestation of The First.

The gears and cogs in Slade's haunt sent him insane.
Which is why he's a bit more psychotic than his more anti-villain comic personality.

C'mon, being surrounded by a constant whirring and grinding of gears would send anyone a little crazy.

The clicking of gears, just like the sound of drums, or for that matter, bells.

The Doom Patrol were killed before the Season 5 finale.
I was wondering why they didn't show up again to aid the Titans against their main enemies, the Brotherhood of Evil. This would explain it.

Plus, in the comics, the DP have an unfortunate habit of... well, dying. More so than other comic characters.

Either Slade, Trigon, or Raven created or moved the old ruins where the Old Library is found.
Jump City is in California after all. It's not a state brimming with weird occult ruins. Cyborg even says that the ruins are older than the city itself. Slade or Trigon probably created them or moved a former site of a cult to Trigon to that place. Alternatively they Raven could have created them on her sixteenth birthday (in that body at least) without knowing it. They could also just follow her around as she moves from place to place and realm to realm.
  • Alternately, Trigon looked into the future and knew where his daughter would be, then transported some cultists from somewhere else (Europe? Egypt?) there to build the temple and conceal it.
  • Jossed by Whedon: at least according to Buffy the Vampire Slayer that's exactly what California is. Jump City is just a few hours away from Sunnydale, and the ruins are there because the followers of Trigon do not play well with others, and found that Jump City was close enough to be convenient, but not so close that they were constantly fighting with other cults.

Raven's demon heritage gives her weird dietary requirements
Raven is one of the only Titans who is hardly ever shown eating, even at general meal times. She drinks tea in "Nevermore" and eats an apple in "Spellbound" and I believe that's it. But she's not (fully) human- what exactly does she eat, and why do we never see it? Theories:

1. Her quasi-demonic metabolism is incredibly efficient. An apple a day may just be enough to do it for her.

2. She has to consume something gross or disturbing; if she's got to chug a pint of fresh blood or somesuch a day in order to meet her body's requirements, no wonder she doesn't do it in public (or on-screen).

3. She's not just The Empath, she actually feeds on emotion. In that case, just being around people (and while she's a loner by nature, she does live in a building with four other teens whom she is certainly going to encounter even if they don't have a mission that day) is enough to keep her energized.

4. She doesn't actually eat anything different than a mortal girl would, and we just don't see her at it because she doesn't eat a lot (like Beast Boy and Cyborg) or eat very strange things (like Starfire).

5. Waffles. It's established that she likes them 'more than life itself'...

Trigon actually cares for Raven.
  • In the same sense that Lex Luthor or Darkseid would care for their children, tough love and having them earn it. He doesn't know how to display the human version of love and caring so he makes up for it by pushing her to her limits. He could have easily killed her and The Titans during The End parts I-III but didn't. The end of the world thing was simply a coming of age ritual amongst demons, though for a full demon it would be them taking over the world and since Raven isn't the type to do that Trigon bent the rules a bit just for her. He is still a complete bastard, but thats just how all demons are.

Control Freak really is an old nemesis of the Titans.
They just simply don't know or care about him, until he destroys the city. He was obviously a Nerd Fanboy whom wanted an autograph, but they blew him off.

"How Long Is Forever" was an alternate timeline caused by Starfire's departure.
She was simply a stablising influence on the team, and suddenly not being there caused a disruption:
  • Robin went off to become Nightwing due to wangst over suddenly losing her and not being able to save her.
  • Beast Boy gave up and let himself go.
  • Cyborg tried to hold the team together, but ended up unable to leave his charging point at the Tower.
  • Raven went insane due to losing her friends.

Trigon was the Man Behind the Man for Brother Blood and (indirectly) Slade
Based heavily on the comics.
Initially, there was the Church of Blood, evolved like in the comics, until they tried to expand in America, where the Gotham branch got Arella in their ranks and gave her to Trigon as a bride before running afoul of the League of Assassins. Between the losses from the various assassinations and Ra's al Ghul telling a young Batman who the Church of Blood adored when he came to investigate, the Church was broken up, and Brother Blood had to go underground for years.
When the League stops searching for him, Blood starts recreating the Church to both prepare Earth for the coming of Trigon and get his revenge on Ra's al Ghul, using the Hierarchy of International Vengeance and Extermination name and a council of 'associates' (actually mind-controlled) as cover. Everything is going right, with H.I.V.E. even establishing an academy to train superpowered agents, when some major snafu happens: first Raven arrives in town, unconsciously attracted by the presence of Brother Blood; then, about at the same time, Beast Boy and Robin (two veteran superheroes, with one of them being the sidekick of the goddamn' Batman) arrive to investigates on a series of metahuman crimes; finally, the threath of an alien attack on Jump City gets Raven, Beast Boy, Robin, a local cyborg vigilante that was giving them some minor trouble and what is a (relatively) low-powered version of Superman to form the Teen Titans.
An Oh, Crap later, the H.I.V.E. hires a very capable mercenary calling himself Ravager (Grant Wilson) to kill the Titans. This brings Blood to start disposing of the H.I.V.E. council for endangering the daughter of Trigon (the headmistress will survive, having caught on what was happening and quitting), while Ravager is Finger Poke of Doom-ed to death by Starfire. That brings Ravager's father, Deathstroke the Terminator, to take the job, after renouncing to go by the name Deathstroke because Blood argued that it was embarassing (and that making sense even coming from someone calling himself Brother Blood had quite the effect).
Season one follows, with Slade having access to the H.I.V.E. resources (and the demon summoning coming from Brother Blood). Then Slade has to take a pause when Bill Walsh takes the name of Ravager and kidnaps Jericho, resulting in him becoming mute (the second Ravager exists too, but got an heart attack when he was confronted by not only Batman (who here adopts Tim Drake to serve as the third Robin, with Jason having been Robin alongside Dick and his death being one of the factors getting Dick to go solo) but also the Teen Titans and Slade, who had heard about another Ravager and came to check).
Season two follows, and as Brother Blood finally takes full control of the H.I.V.E. and starts micromagaging everything Slade makes his final attempt at fulfilling Grant's contract, resulting in Terra killing him.
Season three follows, with Brother Blood activating the allucinatory trap on Slade's outfit in a desperate attempt to get rid of the Titans after Robin recognized him and tipped Batman, resulting in Ra's al Ghul setting his assassins on the H.I.V.E. proper when Barbara Gordon or Zatanna tells him who is the leader of the H.I.V.E. (thus explaining Brother Blood's personnel problems and not bringing in the big guns: the League of Assassins has broken the H.I.V.E. with a few well-placed assassinations of key personnel). Brother Blood dies in prison shortly after being arrested, officially of brain hemorragia due the imperfect cyborgization (everyone knows it was actually the League of Assassins, but they left no evidence save for Talia's favorite lipstick being left around as a calling card).

Beast Boy knows who Batman and Robin really are
He probably wondered who in Gotham City had the means and the motivation to go around dressed as a giant bat and equipped with all of Batman's toys, and saw that Bruce Wayne not only had the means to buy or even have the equipment built and the motivation (his parents' death before his eyes) but had adopted a child who suspiciously looked like Robin. He always kept the secret, letting it slip only when the second Red X appeared (he was actually about to say Red X was Jason Todd, the second and presumed dead Robin, but corrected himself just in time).

Blackfire used to be a Cool Big Sis, but discrimination on Tamaran and Starfire's reaction at the arranged marriage plot ended any chanche for her to remain one.
Related to an above WMG, this has Blackfire being considered a freak for having inherited her mother's hair and eye color. In spite of this, she managed to have a good relationship with Starfire and their little brother Wildfire, and was a true Cool Big Sis, albeith one with occasional bouts of jealousy and a pranking streak a light year wide.
Then the Gordianans attacked, causing their parents to send Wildfire away to preserve the succession, and when they produced ships armed with Wave Motion Guns with a too great range Blackfire decided it was time to throw out pride and act smartly: Starfire was given to them as slave, but had instructions to cripple the ship near Earth and make enough of a mess to get the attention of the local Green Lantern alongside the rest of the Justice League of America. The plan worked (with the JLA arriving after the future Titans had assembled), but Blackfire failed to warn Wildfire, who gave chase and got lost.
Starfire settling on Earth got their parents sick, and Blackfire went on Earth to test Starfire's friend and see if it was better taking her back or letting her stay on Earth. Thus, she hired two alien stuntmen and faked framing Star for a theft that never happened (the jewel was actually a fake, or legally aquired). Thus Blackfire's debut episode and her deciding it was better to let her stay on Earth without knowing about their parents' sickness until a new Grand Ruler had been instated (possibly Blackfire herself), only leaving a message where she revealed the prank after leaving as a 'prisoner'.
In the process she realized that Starfire and Robin were in love, and, due having encountered Batman and co. while she made sure they wouldn't interfere with her test, realized that they would probably never go anywhere due Star's shyness and Robin having been raised by Batman. Thus, after taking over as Grand Ruler and Starfire reaching puberty, she put up a Batman Gambit: getting Starfire's worst-looking and physically weaker suitor to fake an invasion to justify the arranged marriage and have him aquire and give Blackfire the Jewel of Charta to augmented the power of her starbolt, so that Robin would be forced to defeat the groom in combat and become the groom himself with Blackfire now too powerful in case Starfire decided to challenge her for the throne. Sadly, right before Robin could challenge the groom Starfire actually managed to defeat her sister, taking over just long enough to annull the marriage and banish Blackfire.
At that point Blackfire decided to get back at her sister for what she had done, and arrived on Earth. Once there, she met Madame Rouge, who provided some (interested) help in dealing with what had happened on Tamaran and nearly convinced her to join the Brotherhood of Evil. Ultimately Blackfire refused, and actually saved Starfire when she was overwhelmed by Killer Moth's giant moths, having chased the insect fanatic and his daughter when they stole her supply of zorka berries (hey, it's not like she could come back and resupply!) to have their mutant moths go Mothra.
After that, Blackfire tried to get revenge on her sister as detailed in Teen Titans Go!!, ending in prison after getting her ass handed to her by Wonder Girl. Not being stupid enough to run afoul of her again, Blackfire decides to serve her sentence peacefully, and maybe was starting to reform... When a pissed off Starfire confronts her, accuses her of having sent Madame Rouge disguised as Wildfire after her and denounces her as a sister. Madame Rouge had actually used the informations extracted by Blackfire when she tried to have join the Brotherhood, but Blackfire is innocent... And reduced to a nervous wreck by Starfire righteous but bad-aimed fury.

Raven really does love waffles "more than life itself".
In fact she has a waffle addiction and the delusional believe that waffles can defeat all evil.
Raven: Evil beware. We have waffles.
  • Maybe she's talking about the waffle she hides under her leotard, and she wants Cyborg's breakfast sausage...
    • What "breakfast sausage"? He's a robot.
      • That doesn't mean that he doesn't still have one - it could've been salvaged, or he has an artificial sausage...

"Revved Up" was when Robin first revealed his secret identity to the other Titans.
I think that Robin's briefcase contained personal things that endangered his secret ID, but he couldn't bear to leave with the rest of them in Gotham. His briefcase contains a Flying Grayson poster, family photos (of the Graysons and of him and Bruce), etc. Not only is it a risk to his identity, it's very close to his heart, hence the briefcase means "more than you'll ever know" to him.

At the end of that episode, he revealed how much he trusted the Titans now, enough to reveal who he actually was.

Val-Yor was a Locrix himself.
The Locrix that they were fighting in "Troq" were said to be robots who considered themselves superior to "organics". This implies a sense of hate or some sort of emotion that leads them to dislike organics - it wouldn't be the first time that a robot in the DCU felt emotions - so maybe Val-Yor is a Locrix who maybe developed more emotion than the others. Val-Yor differed in appearance to them, but he had silvery skin and red eyes (which could shoot lasers), so maybe he's a different model - maybe because he was meant to be more advanced than the others. Maybe he was built to be a leader of the Locrix but they made him too advanced and he decided he wanted to turn on them.

His motive? Maybe he decided that he wanted to be even more powerful, or that he wanted to destroy the organics on his own, and the rest of his kind wouldn't allow it, so he decided to defeat the Locrix first before he launches the next stage of his plan (which the Teen Titans helped him to do, unwittingly increasing the threat the galaxy, which may come back to bite them later - ''hard''). Or he genuinely decided that what the Locrix is doing is wrong, and that he should stop them.

Of course, he still has this in-built prejudice against organics. Whether or not he's trying to stop the Locrix crusade or to take it over for himself, he struggles to hide it in order to present himself as against this racism / suppress it as he knows on a high level of thinking that it's wrong, since it's hard-wired into him. So, he takes it out on Starfire.
  • Main issue with this one is that he displayed no prejudice towards other organics, and in fact none at all until he saw Starfire. I think his Fantastic Racism is specific to Tamaranians.

Raven's cloak is made of a magical material from Azarath that responds to her mood.
In "Spellbound", once she defeats Malchior, her white cloak fades from white to blue again.

This is why her emotions in "Nevermore" have different coloured cloaks - because she knows this, so this carries over to her mind.

Jinx's Powers Are More Versatile Than She Thinks
"Bad Luck" isn't exactly as constraining as some of the other powers on the Bad Powers, Bad People page, especially since she can control it, unlike say Black Cat from Spider-Man. Theoretically this means she can beat just about anyone, as anything not going right for a character (powers not working, accidental injury, unintentional slip-ups) can theoretically fall under bad luck for them—meeting the only requirement for her powers to work. We're lucky she never realized this when evil...

This series is in the same universe as the DCAU, but not during the run of any of the shows
Teen Titans is between the end of The New Batman Adventures and Super: the Animated Series and the beginning of Justice Jeague. Robin had a falling out with Batman, formed the Titans when he made it to the West Coast (and the events of that one Flashback episode happened). Before the Justice League came about, all the heroes had an unspoken agreement that each will crime in their own city, and no one had the free time enough to often deal with crime away from home. The Titans didn't get help from the Justice League because it didn't exist, and the only two teammates that did have the numbers to other heros both had deep issues with their "parents" that they hadn't worked out yet. Also because the Titans East are on the East coast and would of taken to long to get there to help, and they didn't help with the world ending scenarios like Darkseid in the Superman cartoon because they hadn't formed yet and didn't get called.

The series still had too of crossed over with Static Shock at some times (Batman did say that "Robin is with the Titans") and the Titans go Comics, at very least, had to happen after the beginning of Justice League (Beast Boy did mention Wonder Woman once), and some of the Titans looked up to those considered the "World's Greatest Heroes," but by the time the Unlimited rolled around, many of the Titans were inducted in the League as "reserves," or possibly all of them did (we did see Speedy with the same voice and look of his Titans form at one point), just becoming a training ground for future Leaguers.

  • The major problem with this theory is that the DCAU Robin during that timeframe was Tim Drake, while DCAU Dick Grayson had already moved on to become Nightwing. Teen Titans Robin was heavily hinted, and eventually confirmed by the tie-in comics, to be Grayson, and seemed to be younger than he was ever depicted in the DCAU going all the way back to his first appearance in Batman: The Animated Series. This would be a continuity snag that would be impossible to overcome.

On her planet, it isn't actually hilarious.
It's actually a rather bad joke even on Tamaran. Starfire just wanted someone to laugh at it for once.

The Joker would have been the next Titan Villain, had the series not cancel.
He woudln't be the only Batman / Justice League villain in the series (Killer Moth, Doctor Light.) While Slade's ambition was to try to make Robin a villain. Joker's motive would have been to succeed in Robin, what he had failed to do with Batman: Make him a killer. Since this was taking place before Robin becomes Nightwing, it would be a good reference to the time when Nightwing actually killed the Joker.

Beast Boy suffers from Depression

Comedians in real life often do have a TON of emotional issues, with depression being among the most common. Beast Boy's life in the show and the comics really is the worst of any of the Titans, Raven and Robin don't have nothing on him. His parents died/were killed, he was turned green, his second family were a group of Blood Knights ready to die just for the sake of dying (who, at very least, overworked and unintentionally abused him emotionally, bad enough to make him run away), he never had much school or friends, spent long stretches of his life alone, has an insane raging monster inside of him, and first real relationship betrayed and tried to kill him. That's just the stuff we are sure is CANON. Beast Boy is a Sad Clown to insane extremes. He tries to make others laugh in a vain hope of keeping their attention and friendship, except he doesn't have any comedic talent of many other sad clowns. If Raven went into his mind, she would be scared of the sadness in Beast Boys soul.

Terra was faking amnesia
  • Consider this when Beast Boy brings up her criminal past at the pizza parlor she gets uncomfortable and makes up an excuse to leave she even ask him "Why would you want to be friends with someone who was so much trouble? Everytime Beast Boy brings up something about her she's quick to contradict him. Then in her final encounter she says something to the effect of "Things were never the way you remembered them" in response to Beast Boy asking her why things couldn't go back to the way they were before. There's also hints like Raven suggesting that Terra didn't want to be found and Slade outright stating she was choosing not to remember

Slade is a crime boss who runs the criminal empire in Jump City that mostly has to do with mutation but also nanotechnolgy
Slade's plan in season 1 was to make Robin his apprentice, to carry on his legacy. What did Slade have him do? Steal. Slade most likely started off as a two-bit thieve who eventually built a criminal empire and invested in a lot of experiments and Robot technology. Cinderblock was most likely his creation,and he probably was responsible for most of the weird conspicuous monsters throughtout the series, even if indirectly. He also seemed to have his eyes set on dictatorship as he had Terra take over Jump City and implied that he was going to take over more territories.

The art design was radically changed for the revival to distance the series from Young Justice.
While Teen Titans popularity and the success of the shorts has made DC revive the show with the original voice cast, they have hit a bit of a snag, since they currently have another teen team superhero show being led by Robin with appearances by Bubblebee, Kid Flash, Speedy, and Beast Boy. They are hoping the art shift (as seen here) is enough to make sure people don't confuse the two series, or call CN for redundancy.

Raven defeated Trigon using the powers that she gave her friends.
It was stated that the more they stood as one the stronger the power was. Their fight with Trigon couldn't be more united than that. While at the time she couldn't use powers she was still an empath and took little at a time from Robin during their journey back to the surface. It was enough to block Trigon's rays. It's further proven when the Titans stood behind her during the final blow. Before she blasted Trigon, an aura surrounded the rest of the Titans before moving off them and onto her. She could have just taken back what she gave them.

Danny Chase will appear
He will be voiced by Zach Tyler Eisen and will be given the proper treatment.

Beast Boy has abandonment issues.
Similar to the "Beast Boy has depression" WMG above. Beast Boy is desperate for attention and would probably be the most heartbroken if his friends left him behind. Events in his past may have led to abandonment issues that gave him an intense fear of being left behind. The BB in this show may have a different backstory than the one in the comics, one where he's left alone even more often, for longer periods of time.

Slade set up a computer to send an automated signal to activate his mask (in "Haunted") in the case of his death.
Why would he do this, you may ask? Simple: he wanted to plant the notion in the Titans' minds that he was still alive, so that they would be constantly looking over their shoulders, never knowing when he's attack them. Even in death, he remains as manipulative as ever. Alternatively, the A.I. controlling his Sladebots did it, seeing how it seems to act like the real Slade.

The appearances of Terra in Things Change were just an hallucination
I know Word of God contradicts this, but, after rewatching this episode recently, a few things struck me:
  • None of the other Titans ever see Terra (nor her missing from the pedestal)
  • Beast Boy sees her just after getting knocked on the head
  • She tends to disappear suddenly
So Beast Boy could have suffered a concussion and think he saw Terra, maybe projecting her image on a random girl. Actually, the whole episode could be a dream from Beast Boy (including his team fighting a villain and not be able to win without him), and the end (with him running toward a wall of light) him waking up.

Raven was jealous of Beast Boy's relationship with Terra, not the other way around.
Raven and Terra were Not So Different when it came to their powers and fears- Raven has to meditate every day to control her powers, or, like Terra, they go haywire. Terra could easily stand for what Raven might have been like if she hadn't have had any training from Azarath or befriended the Titans. Raven was mistrustful of Terra because she knew straight away how dangerous Terra was- because they are alike. Maybe Raven could have talked to Terra about her powers, but since the others were all over Terra, she never got much chance. Later on, Raven grew resentful that Terra had seemingly mastered her powers without her help while Raven was still stuck meditating. Terra points out during their catfight, "Were you jealous they liked me better than you?" Beast Boy was devastated by Terra's betrayal, but Raven could easily have been as well, since the two of them were both scared of being left alone and friendless, knowing they were destined to destroy everything they cared about. Terra's sacrifice at the end of "Aftershock" wasn't wholly dissimilar to Raven preparing to be Trigon's vessel in "The End."

There never was any intended romance between Raven and Beast Boy.
It's mostly (not completely) just the Target Audience who watch the show projecting their feelings onto and identifying with Raven, particularly pre-defrosted Raven, and see Beast Boy as the ideal guy (cute, funny and energetic) to break them out of their shell, so shipping started because they wanted to be Raven and get Beast Boy.

Beast Boy could change into an Azarathan (Raven's people) or a Tameranean (Starfire's people)
Since human(oid)s are animals, and he can be any animal he knows the appearance of, it follows. For Rule of Funny, he can only become the female of the species.

"Clorbag" is the Tameranean equivalent of the F-bomb.
In which case they were really Getting Crap Past the Radar with Raven's, Cyborg's and Starfire's dialogue.

The giant shapeshifting monster from "Things Change" was unleashed by Slade.
Who else?

As a young child, Raven used to blame an imaginary friend for when she'd lose control on her powers.
In "Hide and Seek", believing "Bobby" to be spurts of Melvin's powers in stressful situations, Raven eventually tries to explain to Melvin that it was time to stop blaming "Bobby" for power flare-ups, and she explains it with the utmost sympathy.

Raven, likely having been excluded by her peers on Azarath (perhaps the fellow kids bullied her for being half-demon..? She also appears to be somewhat small for her age, even as a teenager...), probably had an imaginary friend as a young child to keep from being lonely. Still learning how to use and control her powers and abilities, she likely blamed every negative reaction on said imaginary friend out of fear of being reprimanded for messing up.

Her mother, and the monks of Azarath that helped to look after her, probably allowed this behavior for a few years, into she got to Melvin's age or near it, and finally told her that she was "big girl" and needed to take responsibility for her powers, both good and bad.

This probably helped her to focus and channel them better, learning to embrace them as an extension of herself, instead of being ashamed and fearing the bad part of them. Raven would eventually learn to use all her abilities for the sake of good, which led to her being the heroine she is today.

Raven saw herself in Melvin, and wanted to spare the kid the same hardship she faced, as well as help Melvin start her personal journey of being part of the next generation of Titans, and not be fearful or ashamed of her powers. Perhaps Raven's words to Melvin were much like the ones her mother had told her at that age?

The Plan behind "Haunted"
Okay, this is how I see it having gone down. Slade (being Slade), set up one last trick to kill Robin (or whichever Titan happened to be the one to grab the mask). So for this operation, he needed two people to assist him.

The first was The Scarecrow, who had battled Batman and Robin in the past and had a score to settle. He supplied the Fear toxin (in both gaseous and dust form) for Robin to inhale.

The second was Slade's butler and ally, Wintergreen (from episode 1) aka Mr. What Happened to the Mouse? . Wintergreen would be the one to activate the device if Slade happened to perish.

Robin did the rest, when his obsessive behavior made him go down to look and hold the mask which activated Scarecrow's gas.

Wintergreen never realized Slade survived during the events of Season 4 and made a clean getaway.

Wintergreen had been seen with the H.I.V.E. Headmistress and later showed up with the Brotherhood of Evil (and was frozen). He may have lived a happy life full of love and crime and never realized his master had returned

In the New 52 comics, Dick Grayson will create a new Teen Titans.
With Nightwing and Teen Titans both ending with issue 30, it seems possible we could see Dick taking over a new team, possibly with a few more traditional members of the team working along with him.

Slade activated the mask yet thought that Raven would be the one wearing it.
From what we know Slade has no interest in killing Robin yet would benifit if the mask were to turn Raven insane and easy for Trigon to control...

The mask's personality was set up by Slade's employer.
Slade has shown no big plan aside from obtaining an apprentice so he could be a mercenary like in the comics... His employer could easily provide him with the dust required for the mask... And design the personality for it... He may have even modified all of Slade's masks to mask Slade's voice with his own.
  • What's more that employer is Joker....


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