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redirected from WMG.SuzumiyaHaruhiNoYuutsu alt title(s): Suzumiya Haruhi No Yuutsu; The Melancholy Of Haruhi Suzumiya; Haruhi Suzumiya Suzumiya Haruhi
It isn't really Haruhi who is unconsciously a god, but Kyon. Haruhi is either an aspect of his personality, or a convenient person to work his power through. Note his dialogue at the beginning of the series; he once wanted to believe in time travel, aliens, and espers, but has learned to suppress it. Having someone else have god-like powers to create these things allows him denial.
We won't meet any sliders, because John Smith hadn't.
When John Smith told three years ago's Haruhi that he hadn't met any sliders (yet), this made her (subconsciously) think of them as less likely to exist than aliens, time travelers, and espers. This explains why she only created those three groups, which explains why Kyon never met any, making this another Stable Time Loop. Of course, book 9 suggests that this will be Jossed soon, but it's still possible.
Kyon is a physical manifestation of Haruhi's desire to have an ordinary life.
If Yuki, Mikuru and Itsuki are there because Haruhi wants to meet supernatural beings, Kyon is there because part of Haruhi wants to have an ordinary life. Kyon represents Haruhi's wish to fall for an ordinary guy and life a normal life.
Haruhi is Chuck Norris
In the WMG pages, she's everyone and everything.
Only one being can possibly achieve that..
..CHUCK NORRIS!!!!!!
This universe is descended from the Clannad universe, and through a long series of events became this one
Okay, this is going to be a little long: in the beginning, we have the Clannad universe. Through the lineage of Tomoya and Nagisa we get, millennia later, Simon and Kamina (both derive their gar from Akio and their blue hair from Tomoya. They're distantly related (Kamina and Simon).) Later on, the Gurren Lagann universe evolved into the Pokemon universe. The resulting Haruhi universe was the result of many Unown combining and creating a whole new world - but not Haruhi's. This was Evangelion. The "Gods" of the Pokemon world slipped through and morphed and divided into Angels. In the NGE universe, after the third impact, Shinji creates countless new universes, transferring the power of the Unown unto two of the newly-born worlds: The universe of FLCL and the world of Serial Experiments Lain. Lain's world became the world of Paranoia Agent, and also the same world as Persona 3/4. L'il Slugger and the Shadows are the same thing. Lain, sensing that this world was decaying, transferred all of the power into what would become the Haruhi universe, and somehow Haruhi, Sasaki, and who knows what else somehow contracted the reality-warping abilities (which are the result of Spiral Energy, which Atomsk is made of). Lain then went on to combine herself with Rei Ayanami to become Yuki Nagato, and made the Data Entities out of her consciousness. Thus, the world of Haruhi will start to become more and more like that of Paranoia Agent, as Haruhi's world is like the Illusionary world of Episodes 11-13 of Paranoia Agent. TL:DR
Haruhi is Kevin Bacon, and these pages are just "Six Degrees of Haruhi"
Haruhi is a Time Lady who fathered Jesus in Purgatory
We Have Entered an Endless Recursion of Time.
Haruhi shut away her powers to keep from going insane
After being Omnipotent for long enough, she ran out of things to do. Once she had all the power and could do anything, life lost it's purpose. This is probably what happened to AM in I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream, as well as a what a few characters in Code Geass feared from their immortality. I also remember a few obscure sci-fi novels by Robert Metzger where bubble universes the size of our solar system with accelerated time are created. After about 500 years, someone takes control of the universe, does everything possible with it, and goes crazy trying to find a way out. She made her powers subconscious and rejoined the world so her life had purpose again.
Yuki was programmed to have an emotional bug
The IDE is a super intelligent entity with access to near unlimited computing power. It would not make an error of that magnitude in such an important program. The error was programmed in intentionally by either the IDE or Yuki herself as Xanatos Roulette of currently unknown purpose. Alternatively the emotional bug was the result of Yuki, tired of serving the IDE after the Endless Eight loop, was able to escape its control. They engaged in a data war similar to the one in Snow Mountain Syndrome, and the result was the alternate reality Kyon found himself in. The winner depended on whether Kyon succeeded at reversing the effect, although who actually won when he succeeded is unknown.
One or more characters is a Time Lord.
... is this just here to fulfill the 14th Example Law?
Assuming Itsuki didn't lie then Kyon does have a special ability. He is the archetype of normal.
Essentially the opposite of Kyon = God theory. Kyon is so absolutely normal that he is immune to the larger reality warping. He is so normal that having a an "evil counterpart" in the Anti-SOS brigade would negate his normalness. So one one doesn't exist. His role is in being the embodiment of normal also means he is a reality anchor. He's the universe's own willing suspension of disbelief in flesh.
This doesn't mean he is God. The power is still in Haruhi/Sasaki/whoever. Closed spaces are just built up tension of said god powers trying to forcibly pull on the anchor. If the tension grows enough Kyon could/would/has been forcibly yanked along.
Hypothetical examples:
Glad0s and Asakura are working together
Glad0s may be using Asakura for experiments. Glad0s may also be of the Integrated Data Entity as one of the more extreme data lifeforms. And they have a similarity in their ax-craziness...
Kyon is to Haruhi as Nyarlothotep is to Azathoth
Hmm... nigh-omnipotent being that is a nexus of meaningless chaos, that a mass of lesser beings must go to lengths to keep "asleep". Check. Seemingly lesser entity, that is linked to the first, and ends up doing its tasks, even while the first remains "asleep", and even works to keep it so. Check. Just look at the activities of the SOS Brigade as an updated version of the ol' pipes-and-drums routine. The reason Haruhi uses Kyon for everything is that, as the same entity, and yet split, she knowns, unconsciously, that he cannot truly disobey her.
Kyon's name is meant to be "regal-sounding", and one that you wouldn't associate with him. Nyarlothotep is pretty regal sounding, isn't it; rather pharonic. And she is, very much, a Cosmic Horror. At least for people that spend time around her (especially Mikiru)...
Haruhi is the only person who wouldn't transform into A God Am I
This is something I thought about some time ago. We all know that especially Haruhi would be dangerous if she knew about her powers. It is only natural for a human with godlike powers to become corrupted and use the universe as a playground for amusement and whatsoever. Now what if Haruhi is actually the one human who cannot be corrupted with godlike powers, at least not to the point of A God Am I.
Kyon and Haruhi are a 100% perfect Odd Couple
Kyon is serious, ordinary, wishes for everything to stay as it is, and secretly believes in aliens, time travellers, psychics and ghosts. Haruhi, on the other hand, is Genki, eccentric, wishes for everything to be unusual and fantastic, and secretly knows all that stuff she believes in doesn't exist. And, if the theory above is true, then Kyon is the God of Ordinarity, while Haruhi is the Goddess of Weirdness.
Tsuruya is a different "Writer God", who doesn't interfere with Kyon and Haruhi.
In the novels, Itsuki comments that she's very mysterious; it's possible she's running around having her own adventures with fantastic beings different, separate from the groups that Kyon is involved in. She herself comments that she's a "Cameo Appearance" in the movie that Kyon and Haruhi made; all of the elements within turned out to be real in a fashion. In the novels, she has joked that the Masquerade that Kyon's explanations provide isn't particularly effective, but also, that she's not going to get involved besides being a very amused spectator. Kyon never acknowledges her saying this.
Mikuru is really Kyon's sister via Time Travel.
This theory comes from the fact that both of them did a "knock on their head and stick out their tongue" gesture. They also share the same eye color and have similar facial structures; Kyon's sister's hair is a couple shades darker than Mikuru's, but Mikuru could have artificially lightened it in order to minimize her resemblance to her younger self. Mikuru also is remarkably at ease around Kyon, to the point of roughhousing and horseplay (if Haruhi isn't around), which seems to be quite at odds with her otherwise timid nature. She also suggests more than once that Kyon should not become "interested" in her.
Mikuru-chan present has never travelled through tim until Episode 8, and it is Adult Mikuru who travelled BACK in time to meet Kyon.
Mikuru is Kyon and Haruhi's future descendant
Make's more sense than his sister, and provides even MORE black humor.
Mikuru is close to thirty-five years old.
Adult Mikuru is around a hundred.
Haruhi Godhood is dependent on her ignorance of it.
The moment she actually becomes aware of it, she'll lose all of it.
While Haruhi isn't actually God, her father is.
She can be seen reaching for his hand in the intro. He is also responsible for all three of the organizations looking after her, as his way of keeping tabs on her.
Said three-years-ago occurrence is on July 7, 2007 (7/7/7).
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Mikuru is, in fact, merely acting weak and helpless in order to get Kyon on her side.
Itsuki explicitly theorizes this at one point. Kyon may not have actual god-like powers on his own, but he may have another, more subtle power which allows him to not only encounter plenty of other Haruhi-esque god-like beings, but also to influence them in a decisive manner. Mikuru is thus able to control the one who controls the gods. This, admittedly, relies a lot on random chance.
Mikuru's spaciness is because of her memory intentionally being "swiss-cheesed" to prevent paradox. She's the tool of the Future to change the Past. Having her memory change with each change would cause undue stress, so she's intentionally "dumbed down." Note her future self, who is also her Superior, doesn't have this problem in the slightest.
Data Entity Agents, Time Travellers, and Espers are all the same thing; their differences are cultural, with different priorities leading to different abilities.
Mikuru reveals that physical technology is abandoned for psychic tools in the future, much like how Agents access the Data Entity. The medium through which this is done is ESP. In the novels, one "half-Esper" accidentally partially hooks himself into the Integrated Data Entity, making him think he's in love with Nagato.
Haruhi knows about her powers and everyone's identity.
The truth is that Haruhi likes the Masquerade as much as any other trope. As such, she enjoys seeing them all scramble in an attempt to keep the "secret" from her.
Haruhi's obliviousness of her abilities is a survival mechanism.
If everything a human being thought became true, it wouldn't take long (a few minutes if lucky) before one thinks oneself out of existence. Our neurology cannot process a negative. You can't not think of something without thinking of it first; like The Game. Example: Right now, try to not think about yourself vanishing forever. Of the infinite Alternate Universe where Haruhi is a Reality Warper, only the ones where Haruhi doesn't think about this exist by process of elimination.
Kyon has skin cancer.
That's a big-ass mole on that neck of his. Was it even there before the island trip? If so, was it that big? Changes in size and shape, or appearance of new moles, may indicate melanoma, a very dangerous form of skin cancer.
The entire show is a dramatisation of real events.
The characters refer to real things frequently, and nobody on the show ever Facefaulted. I mean ever. Seriously, watch closely. Many of the episodes revolve around everyday activities like culture fests or lugging heaters around. If this is true, then it does of course mean that we'd all better pray Haruhi stays happy, or else it's curtains for us.
Everything in the show takes place inside Haruhi's head.
The revelation at the baseball game about exactly how far from being the center of the universe she is shattered her mind. She's living out a fantasy of Espers, time travelers, aliens, and handsome love interests, all constructed to put her right back where she thought she was: At the center of everything.
Everything in the show takes place in Haruhi's writingHaruhi has been told that Kyon has the same powers he was told she has.
The other three brigade members have been deceiving both of them. Tsuruya may or may not know this. It's possible that one and only one of them actually does have godlike powers, or that both do, or that neither does, and there's another cause for the madness, which may or may not be Sasaki.
We Have Entered an Endless Recursion of Time.
Kyon's sister's name is actually "Imouto."
Haruhi calls her "Imouto-chan" in the island episode, and Mikuru later calls her "Imouto-san". Maybe it's not just a stand-in title, but her actual given name.
Izumi Konata is actually Haruhi, whether she be reincarnation, counterpart, or the very same girl after she remade the world again.
See the Lucky Star entry for details.
The Integrated Data Entity is the TechnoCore from Hyperion
Hmm. Data-based lifeform? Check! Fascinated by trying to evolve and reach the next level of development? Check! Split between different factions that have opposed goals about how to go about their aims? Check! Produces human interfaces that allow the AIs to interact with humans as people? Check! And Yuki was even reading a copy of Fall of Hyperion; no doubt she was wondering how on Earth the future had been sent back to before the Heigra.
That would logically put Yuki as either a Stable or an Ultimate, while Asukura is certainly a Volatile, and we don't know enough about Emiri (although I'm suspecting Stable). That would also explain Mikuru; she's been sent back by the future humans to protect a nascent part of the Human UI, although I think we can quite safely say that Haruhi is not, in any way at all, the Empathy part. At all.
Haruhi is Suzie Derkin from Calvin And Hobbes
This one's got to be read over there.
The whole series takes place in the Instrumentality at the end of Neon Genesis Evangelion
Haruhi's ability to subconsciously control the world makes much more sense if the series takes place in a purely mental world where things happen because people imagine it that way. Presumably, some people have more control over it than others; or else, Haruhi isn't a single individual, but a manifestation of everyone's collective consciousness.
Haruhi used to use her god-like powers a lot more overtly as a child.
She got into some weird stuff as a kid.Mikuru isn't really as innocent as she seems.
Think about it. Nobody can possibly be that shy involuntarily. This is supported by Adult Mikuru's feelings of nostalgia at the costumes into which she was forced; wouldn't she normally be terrified?
Haruhi's powers are a result of an error in Earth's programming.
Due to a glitch in the system, Haruhi was accidentally granted administrator privileges over the program to find The Ultimate Question Of Life The Universe And Everything. The rest of the SOS Brigade's (and particularly Yuki's) jobs are to make sure the program turns out how it's supposed to. Won't they get a rude shock?
Haruhi is Eris/Discordia...
The mad, trickster goddess of chaos in the Greek/Roman (respectively) pantheons. All the other characters therefore correspond to some other deities.
Kyon is narrating because he's relating the story over his blog.
The narration, the exaggeration, the fuzzy-edged-love-o-vision for Mikuru, and the fanservicey camera angles.
Kyon is narrating because it's several years in to the future, Haruhi's power is discovered by the general population and Kyon is writing a book about how he came to know the girl with reality-warping powers.
Well, it's not entirely impossible.
Kimidori Emiri really isn't a member of the Integrated Thought Entity.
She's an Emily from Soukou No Strain. Some member of the ITE who had gone through the same Tin Man path as Yuki does in the story took pity on her and used its reality-altering powers to make the eternal loli older so she wouldn't be recognized by the Union. This explains her pale green hair (a trait of the race, while the same colour is never seen anywhere else in Haruhi), her name and her mysterious nature even among the ITE.
Kyon is or will be the "slider".
This is the one Speculative Fiction trope Haruhi brings up in her opening speech that hasn't shown up yet. Several times in the novels, Kyon has wondered when one of these guys is going to show up to complete the list. It also explains why all this weird stuff suddenly starts happening to him when he gets to High School (he makes his first leap without realizing it and ends up in Dimension Haruhi), why he ends up in Haruhi's new universe when she starts creating it (survival instinct causes his powers to kick in), and finally why he remembers the Haruhiverse when Yuki creates her new universe in Disappearance. Yuki didn't actually change his history; he just Slid there. Again, a survival reflex action. Of course, Itsuki claims Kyon is perfectly normal, but can we really trust him? ....no.
Alternatively, if Kyon is god, then Haruhi is the "slider".
Let's just face it, we are going to see a "slider" eventually.
Alternate alternative: Itsuki is the slider, and Kyon is the esper
Itsuki has dimension jumping powers. In fact, his power to identify Haruhi's emotions could easily be related to the ability to see into Closed Space, and he could transform by moving himself slightly "out of phase" with the dimension he's in. Thus, all of Itsuki's powers are related to alternate dimensions and "esper" was just the label Kyon attached to him. Slider would be a better description of his powers.
Originally, it was Nagato who was the "back-up" while Asakura was the original Agent assigned to observe Haruhi.
Hence her having the emotions and actually in a position to observe Haruhi, while Nagato was in stand-by in the Book Club Room. But Haruhi, being Haruhi, chose Nagato. The Integrated Data Entity switched Nagato's and Asakura's roles, something Asakura and her Sponsor didn't accept.
The show is the Warhammer 40000 verse in the making.
Haruhi is Anthony Fremont, and possibly caused all of The Twilight Zone.
From The Twilight Zone episode "It's a Good Life." Peaksville was created by Anthony Fremont, with its inhabitants all having False Memories of the rest of the world. Something in his previous existence annoyed him, and so he lashed out at the people he created. After a while he destroyed it. He created and entered other universes at a rapid rate, some of them with strange and fantastic events in them. Eventually he grew up and his universes became more stable, and eventually became Haruhi Suzumiya. She still retained her love for the fantastic and strange as a teenager, however. Why is he a girl, or why was she a boy? Well, there's no reason the entity known as Haruhi is attatched to a particular form. Also, see the opening song. That's not God pulling Haruhi up, it's Anthony/Haruhi pulling him/herself into the body s/he created.
Haruhi got her power by figuring the Ultimate Question.
Supposedly, if both the Ultimate Question and the Ultimate Answer are known at the same time, the universe will be instantly destroyed and remade as something even weirder. And this is exactly what happened Three Years Ago(tm) in the Haruhiverse.
The SOS Brigade is an alternate universe version of Pretty Cure 5.
Each group is associated with two different FiveManBands. The pairings are very similar — both groups have two Hero-Chicks and a Big-Smart Guy — with the only real difference being that Rin and Karen have swapped one pair of roles compared to Kyon and Itsuki. That in itself is already suspicious, but consider the similarities between matching characters.
Haruhi is a hermaphrodite.
As the old joke goes, "God is neither black nor white. God is neither male nor female. God is neither gay nor straight. Therefore, God is Michael Jackson." However, Haruhi is neither black nor white. She is neither gay nor straight. She is God. Therefore, she is neither male nor female, i.e., a hermaphrodite. (Although about 10,000 Doujinshi artists would try to prove me wrong...)
Tsuruya is an older Yotsuba with her hair down.
Self Explanatory. The laughter, the genkiness, the hair color, the surprising insight into Haruhi's weirdness...
There was originally a death in the Island Mystery, but Haruhi/Kyon rewrote it so it became an elaborate "game" instead.
When they realized the full implications (namely, that Kyon and Itsuki had accidentally killed the victim), they rewrote the entire scenario at that very spot, including the past leading up to it. This makes sense whether the one doing the reality-altering is Haruhi ( who is visibly shaken by her own deduction and refuses to say anything that would incriminate her friends—incidentally showing that she has had some Character Development as well) or Kyon ( who obviously doesn't want to be guilty of someone else's death, accidental or not).
Nagato must obey Kyon's every command
In the episode with the missing computer club guy, Nagato freezes halfway through pointing at something when Kyon says "Hold it." I cannot remember if it is the case in the anime but in the book it is explicitly stated that she stays perfectly still despite the oncoming giant insect until Kyon says "you can move again." If you combine this with the fact that only Kyon's orders could make her open the door in the island mystery one I think this conclusion seems fairly reasonable.
Kyon is a telepath
This isn't the same thing as an Esper, unless Itsuki was lying. We see several instances of Kyon narrating or apparently thinking something...and then someone responds to it as if he had said it out loud. This makes sense when Haruhi does it, (she reads his thought bubbles?) but Kyon's friends have done it at least once as well. This could dovetail into the "Kyon is really the god" theory.
Espers are lying about only having active powers in Closed Space
Which could explain the above non-Haruhi instances, this would also mean that Kyon's supposedly muggle friends are Espers. He does ask one if they're "special" and gets a laughing response that he's been infected by Haruhi. What Kyon doesn't get is a direct answer.
The Final Battle will be against Ryoko Asakura, who takes Sasaki's Anti-Haruhi power
The only way Kyon is able to save his previous sliding self from Alter-Ryoko is to Jump her back to the current reality. If Haruhi's non-change is upsetting, than Sakaki's nihilistic stasis is even more so. Ryoko uses Nagato's "Steal Ability" and usurps Sakaki's godhead.
Haruhi is Sakaki's split personality
Haruhi was created by Sakaki's unconscious desires for the supernatural. This could explain many things: Sakaki's team says that Haruhi receiving her powers was a mistake. Haruhi, when seeing Kyon with Sakaki, suffers "not simple jealousy, but a more primitive emotion" according to Koizumi (she fears her own death). Also, it explains the capability that Sakaki has to take over Haruhi's powers. This could be also confirmed by the title of the book: "The Dissociation of Suzumiya Haruhi". It would be worth asking: Why doesn't Kyon EVER meet Haruhi's parents, or even go to her house? Because she DOESN'T have a house! When she has had enough fun with the SOS brigade, she simply disappears.
The supernatural elements are Kyon's hallucinations.
They only show up after Nagato takes him home and talks at him. Thus, she slipped him something in the team and the supernatural elements are a result of mental trauma brought on by a somewhat unusual fetish on Yuki's part. Mikuru's in on it as well; her tea is also spiked.
Alter-Ryoko was Yuki's subconscious desire to stay human.
No form of Yuki would want to hurt Kyon, but the fact that Alter-Ryoko knew Kyon was trying to change things back when even Human Yuki didn't suggests she was created differently from everyone else in the Alternate Universe. Some small part in the back of Yuki's mind gave herself a companion in the new world that would defend it. Add a dallop of guilt for original Ryoko's erasure, mix in Ryoko's normal psychopathy, and stir.
Haruhi created or is otherwise messing around with (Insert Random Fictional Universe Here)
Haruhi is God, so why not? Much like the multiple interpretations and ramifications of the events of Neon Genesis Evangelion, Haruhi's omnipotence creates a very large if not infinitely large dart board to toss Wild Mass Guess darts at; therefore, any theory concerning any fictional universe stating that said universe is created by or is otherwise involved with Haruhi is valid.
Haruhi is a 5th dimension imp
The series ends when she says Ihurah Ayimuzus and is transported back to her home.
The Integrated Thought Entity is the AI God from Dan Simmons' Hyperion.
Yuki didn't choose to give Kyon a book with exactly the same kind of entity she is an agent for by accident, you know...
The Computer Society President is related to Kyon
Either he's an unknown cousin, or a long-lost sibling. This is why his name is never heard, despite being a relatively important character; he's party to whatever bizarre tradition keeps us from knowing the real name of anyone in Kyon's family.
Kyon is a manifestation of Haruhi's desire to have a normal life.
Kyon's sexy, fit, sensitive, helps those around him, doesn't leave friends behind ... and just happens to notice the lonely, unpopular, friendless geek sitting alone in the back of class ... and is just conveniently skeptical and blunt enough to bring Haruhi down from most of her crazy moments. While the rest of the SOS Brigade represent different forms of supernatural powers Haruhi wants to see in reality, Kyon is similarly a manifestation of (nearly) every little girl's dream to find someone to settle down with and have a storybook Happily Ever After.
Kyonko and Haruki are a reshuffling of the KyonHaruhi manifestations
Kyonko looks like Haruhi, and Haruki looks like Kyon. Despite supposedly being Alternate Universe versions of the originals; their personalities have curious differences. One could argue this is just evidence of the pervasiveness of gender expectations on personality...but if both Kyon and Haruhi are Avatars of gods; it's possible they decided to trade more pieces than just gender.
Kyon and Haruhi are a Rynax pair from Kurau Phantom Memory
Which also means that Rynax have been around on earth for quite a bit longer than before that series starts. The Rynax-entities of Kyon and Haruhi got lost in the wide world of our universe, passing from human to human, forgetting about their true nature in the meantime. They also got separated because of this, leading to a lot of anguish for them both since Rynax-pairs are meant to complement each other's existence. Unlike Kurau and the other "Rynaspiens", they don't show any visible signs of their powers, since they have firmly grown to believe to be fully human. Without their pair they kept feeling this loneliness and subsequent boredom though, which they both translate in a longing for an alternate, more exciting world - which Kyon suppresses and Haruhi clearly not.
Once they start sensing the other's presence, somewhere in july 2007, it leads to an outburst of their latent capabilities. Fueled by their longing to be together, they go past merely being able to phase through walls and shoot energy blasts, but can actually alter reality itself. It explains why things become really strange after they finally do meet up at school and also why they clearly can't be without each other. They might not always be fully aware of the other's intentions after they have been captured in human bodies for so long, but they actually change the universe around them together. Their bond is also clearly not romantic but goes beyond such human notions. The other powered beings might be Rynax themselves and/or simply entities that try to get a hold of their powers.
The entire series is an Adventures of Mikuru Asahina Self Insert Fic. Haruhi is an original-character Mary Sue.
The author, American 7th-grader Harriet Sussmeyer, ships Itsuki with the canonically minor character Kyon (yet fails to come up with an actual name for him), refuses to believe Yuki is the villain, and has a Deviant Art account full of drawings of Mikuru in random costumes. Naturally, she's much better acquainted with the conventions of anime than with those of actual Japanese society, on which she Did Not Do The Research.
The members of the SOS Brigade are overestimating the amount of danger Haruhi really represents if she discovers what she is.
Or worse, her not knowing is actually putting the universe at GREATER risk. Haruhi might certainly enjoy having the power, but the real threat of her overwriting the current universe is because she doesn't know to prevent it as things stand. If she became aware, she might indulge in some godly mischief, but she wouldn't actually destroy anything.
Asahina (Big) is actually from the same time period as Asahina (Small) because Asahina (Small) decided to stay in the past with the SOS Brigade and thus took The Long Way back to her time period.
Think about it... The future inventor of time travel lives near Haruhi, and would likely know who Asahina is. He will likely ask Asahina in the future to help him form the time travel agency, and Asahina will arrange her younger self to be recruited and send her back in time to join the SOS Brigade.
Haruhi will discover her true nature on or not long before December 21, 2012
12/21/2012 is The Alpha/Beta parts of Volume 9 are the result of Kuyou Save Scumming
The key bits of evidence that supports this theory both come from Snow Mountain Syndrome. First, Kuyou (and/or the Sky Canopy Domain), as it has been revealed, is responsible for the whole shabang. Second, in both situations, Nagato becomes weakened and Kyon considers momentarily to use his trump card should it come down to it.
That said, recall, if you will, Koizumi's hypothesis in Snow Mountain Syndrome that the SOS Brigade members in the mansion are duplicates of the real SOS Brigade, akin to a save file on a game, and that the perpetrator of the scenario was likely to have been intending to provoke Haruhi. Therefore, Kukyou and/or the Canopy Domain (hitherto only referred as "Kuyou" alone) is attempting this tactic again, this time in the real world so the SOS Brigade would be convinced that this "save" is the reality, as opposed to the "Controllable Helplessness" of the mansion, dismissing the possiblity of "escape". The "save point" is right when Kyon picks up the phone (since that's where the split occurs). The α save is the default reality, while the ß save is the alternate created by Kuyou, and it's no holds barred: disabling Nagato, the Anti-SOS meeting Kyon, etc. When Kuyou grabbed Kimidori's arm, she was disconnecting Kimidori from the Data Integrated Thought Entity and weakening her like she did with Nagato (it would be counterintuitive to have an active IDTE Interface in the ß save). Additionally, girl that catches Kyon's interest in the α save is the Slider, in the dimensional and spatial sense; in other words, not only can she slide between dimensions, but she can slide through space (hence how she entered the Clubroom; she's the mysterious twelfth first-year); she'll join as the Sixth Ranger.
What'll happen in the tenth novel with this in mind is still up in the air, but odds are that the Slider will use her powers to connect a link between the α and β saves to stop Kuyou, though from what the Slider tells Kyon on the phone, she is a duplicate created by the IDTE (or perhaps herself) that was sent back in time after the fact, because otherwise she'd end up dead in creating the α/β link.
And actually, typing this gave me another Epileptic Tree to add...
Kuyou is the "shadow girl"
Kuyou was the one that "pushed" Kyon down the stairs in the alternate December 18th. She is hinted at being able to hide herself, explaining why Koizumi speculates that the "shadow girl" doesn't exist.
What's more, the whole scenario in volume 4 was created by the Sky Canopy Domain: Over time, so Nagato doesn't notice, the SCD combines its power with the power Nagato gets from the IDTE, which is why Nagato seems to appear "less alien", and the result is that the SCD is discretely in control of Nagato (she thought she was acting on her own), and the resultant combined powers exceed Haruhi's, being self-aware and nigh omniscient. On the morning of December 18th, SCD Nagato creates a new save point, resulting in the alternate dimension (whether the escape program was made under the SCD's design is anyone's guess at this point, but it was probably normal Nagato's creation). When the gun was fired at the alternate Nagato, it negated the alternate world and drove the SCD out of her, but by that point the SCD had enough data from Nagato to create their own interface, thus resulting in Kuyou.
Which brings us back to the "shadow girl". The SCD still had the save point, so Kuyou transferred Kyon's mind back into the alternate world (while erasing what he already had of December eighteenth), and that caused Kyon's empty husk to collapse. By that time, Nagato was starting to suspect the Sky Canopy Domain.
Haruhi is a Q.
Just... yeah.
In the previous iteration of the universe, octopi were the dominant species
... however, octo-Haruhi frequented the molluscan version of the TV Tropes Wiki, and became entranced by the idea that Everything's Better With Monkeys. The rest followed naturally.
Haruhi is a GURPS reality shard.
In GURPS Infinite Worlds, a reality quake is a cataclysm that can destroy history on the other side of it. Mikuru states that time travel to before 7/7/07 is impossible. Also, reality quakes can also thrust up remnants of previous histories, which are reality shards. They often have strange powers. So I'm thinking that Haruhi is the only remnant of a previous history, and thus has vast amounts of power because of it, kind of like how Galactus has large amounts of power because he basically survived the destruction and re-creation of the universe.
Haruhi is the true Nietzschean Ubermensch
Think about it. She rejects the norms of society, doesn't give in to the majority's pressure, lives by her own "code" and standards, and wants to Make A Better World (well, better by her definition). And she even has followers of a sort who are compelled to follow her.
Everyone is Haruhi.
And Haruhi is Jesus in Purgatory.
Haruhi is everyone.
Her powers had been passed down to her, and (as far as this troper knows) it hasn't been revealed from who or what Sasaki got her powers. It's possible that the "god"s typically undo any knowledge their predecessors had of the reality warping power, and/or any damage done. Every time a Haruhi-power wishes away the power, or successfully "makes a new universe" that pleases them (but without being able to create or destroy life, only alter what is already there), it passes to the next person, somewhere near the same time and astronomoical coordinates as their predecessor. Eventually, it will loop around to the "first" being (or at least loop, there wouldn;t really be any first, it being a Stable Everything Loop), after everyone else to have the power slowly made the universe exactly what it was before the "first" person changed anything.
The whole universe the series is set in is one big experimental scenario run by a wacky King Of All Cosmos
Said King Of All Cosmos is the creator of The Multiverse and, bored with watching all of the other 'verses whose inhabitants are bound within whatever scientific laws hold true in their local universe, creates one (or possibly more) where several of its inhabitants are capable of manipulating its laws just to see what would happen. To tie in with an earlier WMG, Tsuruya is the avatar of the aforementioned King Of All Cosmos who is watching everything unfold with great amusement.
Haruhi is the reincarnation of Akashi Kaoru from Zettai Karen Children.
Having acquired powers that vastly exceed Level 7, Kaoru then reshaped the universe to her liking. The process included the reimagining of Minamoto as her not-boyfriend, Shiho, Hyoubu and Naomi.
We Have Entered an Endless Recursion of Time.
The Unwanted Harem was set up by Haruhi so that she could win.
Her obsession with winning is rampant during the series, and given how Genre Savvy she is, it makes sense she would expect one of these to come up. This means that the real reason she almost destroys everything in Episode 6/14 was not just because she saw Kyon friendly with another woman, but because Mikuru was winning. The kiss made her believe she was back on top, so she restored everything. Also, notice how every other member of the harem has a ridiculous number of reasons to not be with him (it's forbidden, not human, male, it would mean everyone dies, etc.}. This is Haruhi subconsciously getting Kyon to notice her and only her.
Like the big blue glowy things, Haruhi's groping of Mikuru is a way of getting off a different kind of stress.
If she doesn't touch Mikuru's breasts, the world will end.
The Integrated Data Entity evolved from the different operating systems of our universe and manifested in the universe where the series is set.
This is why Yuki's reality hacking consists of sped-up and reversed SQL statements. The differing factions within the Integrated Data Entity are the manifestation of the diffrent operating systems(Microsoft Windows, Mac OS, UNIX, etc.) of our world. The Sky Canopy Domain, on the other hand, evolved from 4chan. Which is why Kuyou is a much more crude interface than Nagato, speaks in an apparently nonsensical manner, has a weak sense of individuality, and is utterly incapable of normal social interaction.
The "Haruhi" Universe is really a dimension made up of Haruhi's beliefs, but she actually is physically in another dimension, where her body is in coma
Therefor, the series ends, if she either dies in her true dimension, or if the others find a way to send her back to her real life, which would mean farewell. She would probably end up searching everywhere for a brown-haird boy, she can command around..
Oh, yes, that would explain, why her parents are never shown, but mentioned.
Her parents are still in The Real World.
At some point, the Integreated Data Entity gets captured & imprisoned in the core of a giant robot.
"Ide" is actually a misreading of I.D.E., makes sense, doesn't it? And the Buff Clan? They're Yuki's descendants, trying to reclaim their creator.
Kyon's real given name is Kiyohiko
"Kyon" is "Kiyo" compressed into "Kyo" and with an -n added. The "-hiko" part is a common ending for male names.
Mikuru works for The Time Agency
The 21st century is when everything changes, for more reasons than one. By extension, this also means that at some point, she's met Captain Jack.
Kyon is going to get sick of this nonsense.
No, not the fact that Time Travellers, Aliens, and Espers exist. He's fine with that. It's all the nonsense with secret societies and manipulation that hurts his friends. He's going to get mad. This will not be an unstoppable rage; but the righteous anger of one who knows exactly how the universe works.
Everything is a Xanatos Roulette / Memory Gambit by Haruhi.
Haruhi purposely set up things in a way that would lead to the speculations done my Yuki, Mikuru, and Itsuki, and planned that she would lose her knowlege of her being a Reality Warper later and planned that the members of the SOS Brigade would come to keep her under control for these reasons to prevent the apocalypse. For some unrevealed reason. She's been influenced by Light "God of the new world" Yagami.
Kyon's personality isn't really that different from Haruhi's; Sasaki influenced him so badly, that he became a Deadpan Snarker .
In the prolouge, Kyon even states, that he once was a bit like Haruhi is portrayed. But he stopped "being childish", hmmm.... around the same time, he made "friends" with Sasaki?!
To connect this with the "Haruhi and Kyon are both god" theory; I think, there are three godnesses:
Haruhi, Kyon and Sasaki.
Kyon is the one, who regulates between Sasaki and Haruhi, making one of the two always dominant.
Sasaki was always aware of her powers and realized, that the influence of Kyon, back then still very Haruhi-like, could change the universe in a way she doesn't want it to be, and therefore "deactivated" him, by feeding him her mind piece by piece. All she had to do, was attending the same cram school as him.
Her "plan", however, backfired, by surpressing his real wishes and personality under Sasaki's influence, she made his subcontious desires for the extraordinary even stronger, setting the "in charge for intergalactic reality-warping"-button in his mind on "Haruhi" by default.
This is the reason, why everybody wants Kyon on their side. If he ever gets really and completly convinced, that Sasaki was the better choice, she would automatically be the one in charge again.
Kyon is related to Captain Picard.
They're both experts at the Face Palm! It has to be genetic!
Mikuru, Koizumi, Nagato, Asakura, and so on were once ordinary students, until Haruhi/Kyon "rewrote" them.
Think about it, especially how normal Asakura seemed until the episode she went berserk. And why would the Time Agency (or whatever it's really called) send someone as frail as Mikuru on a mission of such importance anyway? Granted, Nagato was always weird, but if Kyon is the real God (see the first WMG on this page), then notice how Nagato was the first one to tell Kyon. He subconsciously picked her first because he was making up some sort of explanation for her weirdness, and then once one of them was explained, he subconsciously wished similar backstories for the others.
Tanigawa Nagaru is actually an adherent of Discordianism
Just look at the intro description for Operation Mindfuck, it all fits! Also, the reason why the tenth novel is late is because Tanigawa Nagaru is trolling everybody—all in the name of Operation Mindfuck! The Chao is strong in him indeed. Knowing all this, we can then be reasonably certain that the tenth novel will probably end with five tons of flax.
The "Entity" from Chrono Trigger and the Integrated Thought Entity are one and the same. Or alternate versions of each other.
Lavos, given his reality bending powers could be a self aware form of Haruhi. If Haruhi is not self aware, it could be that she is Lucca or Schala, given both of their talents. The "pocket dimensions" are actually closed space and the magic is a result of the Entity. Possible interfaces include: Robo, Magus and Spekkio. In any case, Suzumiya Haruhi could either happen after Haruhi rewrites the universe or before she rewrites the current one.
There is an Entity Interface that has joined the Agency, and possibly there are other intermixes in the three groups
In the episodes Remote Island Syndrome Part 1 and 2, the Agency set up a murder mystery that involved a typhoon. Espers are mentioned as having only the ability to manipulate closed space. The Integrated Thought Entity has the ability to alter the weather. However, Nagato does not support doing so as it would cause strange weather patterns. So it would have to be some sort of other interface.
The tenth novel and the second season will come out at the same time.
One is delaying the other. Either that or Tanigawa has fallen into a space-time rift and they can't find the final draft of the novel, or get his signature for the second season contract.
The members of the SOS brigade are different aspects of the same being
On this page we have Haruhi is Kyon, and Kyon is the slider. The Lucky Star pages shows the Konata is Haruhi and Koizumi. Furthermore, Nagato was able to steal Haruhi's powers without Kyon's consent because the powers see them as the same person. Finally, the Haruhi-chan anime clearly shows that Mikuru is Jesus and by extension Haruhi.
Haruhi doesn't currently have her reality warping powers
Despite no longer having her reality warping power Sasaki retains the ability to create enclosed spaces and could presumably generate avatars if she desired to change the world. In order for Haruhi to make a large scale change her enclosed space must grow to a certain size. The rampaging of Haruhi's avatars are what causes her enclosed spaces to grow. As of the latest novel Haruhi is generating avatars that aren't rampaging.
The Integrated Thought Entity will be destroyed
Through a series of deus ex machinas and gaping plot holes, Yuki will somehow become her own being, separate from the ITE, and reduce it to ash. A while after this is done, the ITE will become two separate beings, the Galactic Entity, and the Brainspawn.
The series will end with Haruhi's "Suicide"
Haruhi will realize her powers at some point and, in a bright moment, understand how she is the cause of all sufferings her friends, that she really cares about, have to endure. Therefor, she finds that the only solution for Kyon&Co's suffering is to erase herself out of existence.
Also, note how close the sound of "Suzumiya" is to "Suicide".
Aliens and Time Travelers always existed Haruhi is simply responsible for attracting them to herself
Both Mikuru and Yuki give reasons why they are observing Haruhi, the inability to go back in time beyond a certain point and a burst of data with Haruhi at the epicenter, respectively. On the other hand Koizumi claims he instinctively knew about Haruhi and her powers indicating he is fundamentally different from Mikuru and Yuki.
Espers are a fail-safe built into Haruhi's powers and will exist no matter how normal anyone using her powers tries to make the world
Sasaki doesn't have any desire to change the world, but espers still came into to being when she had her powers. This would also mean that Yuki has espers although she may not be aware of this.
The ITE is a Lovecraftian Horror. Something I thought up on the fly, but I think it makes some sort of sense...It speaks a language not heard by human ears for example...
Tsuruya is a Mad Scientist, or at least the daughter of one.
Well, we already have a regular powerless character. Mad scientists tend to maniacally laugh at any time, and also Tsuruya has a connection with Asahina. While it's probably true that she's not from Mikuru's time (She said so herself, although she might be lying) her tendencies could have attracted her to Mikuru. Plus, Time Travelers and Espers in this show are not super obvious, so why would Mad Scientists be any different?
Tsuruya is a Vampire
And since she's immortal, Mikuru knew her in the future. That stuff about vampires dying in the sun is crap anyway.
Haruhi, or some other cast member is a contributor to the wiki, and a shameless Entry Pimp
Which explains the amount of examples and WMG's. While haruhi might just be that narcissistic, my money's on Mikuru who really doesn't mind her advances that much, seeing she is nostalgic in her future form.
The next season will feature a Gender Flipped episode as a Shout Out to the fans
Not really a WMG, but it would be awesome.
Nagato could hijack Haruhi powers because Kyon transfered them to her
Nagato was able to use Haruhi powers to alter reality in Vol.4 only because Kyon - probably subconsciously - transfered Haruhi power, or allowed them to be transfered. Tachibana Kyoko thinks that Kyon can transfer Haruhi power to Sasaki - or at least is crucial in doing so. Some dialogs in Asahina Mikuru's Adventure suggest that Kyon is somehow 'key' to Haruhi power. Of all people in the world, who Kyon trust most and wouldn't mind if they were holders of supernatural powers? Nagato.
Kyon is unconsciously a genie, and grants the wishes of those closest to him
Several of the above WMGs relate to this, but this is different in an important way: Kyon grants wishes, but not his own. At least not directly. Nagato, a sci-fi bookworm wanted to know everything and be an alien. So she's turned into an Integrated Thought Sentient Entity interface, which knows pretty much everything AND is an alien. Koizumi is classy, and given his bootlicking personality he wants to be high up in some organization. So, he's given the most important job an esper can have, and Haruhi considers him her second in command. Asahina's motives are unclear. (And this troper personally believes the WMG that she's only helpless to get close to Haruhi and Kyon) Since she's very secretive, I suppose her wish would be that she gets to be "in the loop". Notice that she also refuses to tell people things that she knows they already know. Lastly Haruhi, who just wants to be special. If Kyon really does care about Haruhi, then he's made her the most important person in the world, with more than three organizations all wanting to know more about her, yet all subservient to her wishes. Now Kyon never gets his wishes unless someone else helps him out. The only problem is that other people that are somewhat close to him don't get any abilities, or else Taniguchi would be the most popular guy in school. It also seems that Kyon's sister doesn't have any wishes. On the other hand, Kyon's sister gets a magical cat in the books and is allowed on the island in the anime. Another problem is that Ryoko Asakura got a wish granted, and she definitely doesn't seem to be a special person of Kyon's, unless Nagato wished to save Kyon.
Kyon and his sister aren't Japanese
They're either immigrants or the children of immigrants. Their real names have not been revealed to prevent that becoming known. Also, in one of the books, Kyon thinks John Smith would be a sensible alias; if he was Japanese, you'd think he'd go by Takeshi Kuroyama or something.
Kyon is King Arthur reborn
Assuming he's not Japanese, but his name is "regal sounding" and "hard to spell" (a detail from the novels, according to our own page on the series)... who's more regal than the Once and Future King himself? I don't know how you'd Japanize 'Arthur', though, so I can't say anything regarding how difficult it would be to spell. Kyon no Imouto, of course, is Morgana. She was reborn some years after he was. What possible evidence could I have for this? Rule Of Cool, man, Rule Of Cool.
Kyon from the future did a massive Xanatos Gambit to ensure Haruhi Suzumiya gets her powers.
This is all based off speculation from the ninth novel: There's one time loop that never got started, and that time loop is the one where Kyon paints the symbols on the field. Therefore, originally, that did not happen until time travel was created, and that point in time was the earliest necessary time to travel back to. In a previous time line, Sasaki was the real "goddess" so to speak. At this point, Sasaki wished that nothing spectacular would ever happen again, or perhaps that no love would ever occur. She believes love is poisonous and the world falls into a dull, lifeless place, all except for Kyon, the only person who she did not wish to or could not change. Kyon has been shown to be special in some way, perhaps he wrested control away from her and gave it to a chaotic love interest in the future, in other words Haruhi. Haruhi became self aware and wished for time traveling, and Kyon formed the SOS brigade in the future. He then used Future Mikuru and his past self to create a Stable Time Loop where Kyon transfers Sasaki's powers to himself the moment she gains her powers. It's possible Haruhi from the future wished that she would have a normal high school life. Note that this could also give the other two of Sasaki's followers motivations. Kuyoh doesn't want mystical things to exist and Fujiwara hates time traveling.
Kyon mole will indicate slider Kyon
In second sezon Kyon will unwittingly slide between alternate universes, and Koizumi will detect slider Kyon by mole changing it's place - right versus left. You can't change your chirality in three dimensions, but in four dimensions space you can rotate into your own mirror image. And sliding between universes might involve more dimensions.
Haruhi is a composer
Think about it. Haruhi's closed spaced where giant beings rampage is the same as Joshua's Shibuya Underground where beings known as the noise rampage. The instant Haruhi discovers her almighty composer powers, she'll come to the same conclusion that Joshua did and cue another instance of the reaper's game.
Kyon, Haruhi, Sasaki, Kyon's Sister, and Kunikida all died in 1999
As noted above, Kyon was in junior high in 1996, but evidence in the novels points to three-years-ago being in 2007. When the Reaper's Game between Haruhi and Kyon started it became neccesary to rewrite the memories of everyone in order for them to fit into the Realground, Kyon and Haruhi's game started in 2007. Kyon's implying that he was in junior high in 1996 was simply due to the memory rewrite not being comprehensive enough.
Slider doesn't meant "Dimensional Slider" but " Street Light Interference Data Exchange"
If you are going to create an integrated data entity, why not create a being that can control various form of energy and data unknowingly? That way you can have a way to control the terminals.
The doppelgangers in Snowy Mountain Syndrome all took on the form of the subject of their victims' infatuation.
In the last chapter of The Rampage of Haruhi Suzumiya, the SOS Brigade is trapped in a house created by the Sky Canopy Domain, and they are forced to stay overnight because of the blizzard that forced them inside. A very forward Mikuru, who Kyon is obviously attracted to, ends up in Kyon's room, where she tries to seduce him for unknown reasons. Of course, Kyon realizes she's a fake and drives her away, but then he discovers that each of the other SOS Brigade members also encountered doppelgangers. One could except Koizumi's theory that it was simply a ploy by Yuki to give them a hint to solving the puzzle that would release them, but let's look at exactly what happened. Mikuru enters Kyon's room, and he is definitely infatuated with her. Kyon enters Haruhi's room, and there are plenty of clues to draw the conclusion that she has strong feelings toward him. Same for Kyon's appearance in Yuki's room. It's also no surprise that he ended up in Koizumi's room, given the latter's sometimes odd behavior toward Kyon. Of course, Haruhi ended up in Mikuru's room, which brings us to the next theory...
Mikuru is in love with Haruhi
Alas, Kyon's love is to forever go unrequited. Miss Asahina (big) didn't refuse Kyon's kiss because she didn't want to endanger the universe by way of Haruhi's jealousy. It's because she's just not into that. Apparently, all those "cosplay sessions" had an effect on her. The penultimate proof is in the above reference to Snow Mountain Syndrome, in which all the other characters have the objects of their affection show up in their rooms to seduce them, while Haruhi shows up in Mikuru's room.
Haruhi's powers do not manifest her own subconscious whims, but the notions of anyone else
This is a belief I came up with because, well, it is the ONLY way I can look at Haruhi and the entire show with some kind of basic acceptance. In reality, Haruhi is nothing more than a sad, scared girl, aware of the true nature of her powers but unable to do anything about it. It comes down to a situation similar to Your Mind Makes It Real. If someone aware of Haruhi's alleged "nature" thinks she's angry and going to destroy the world, it will happen. If someone thinks she's bored and the Universe will alter itself to be more amusing for her, it will happen. This explains why the world hasn't ended or gone under rampant rewrites during the course of time Haruhi is out of the eyesight of the SOS brigade.
Haruhi's power is actually a manifestation of Spiral Power
Or possibly its the other way around. This is based mainly on Yuki's explanation for why the Data Entity is interested in Haruhi, namely the autonomous evolution thing. In addition to this, it seems to me that Haruhi's determination, refusal to take no for an answer, hopefulness, and just personality is usually very similar to what's needed to access large amounts of Spiral Power.
The fakes in Snow Mountain Syndrome did not reflect who the dweller desired most, but rather the opposite
That is to say, the one that entered their room was the one that desired them most. For example, Fake Mikuru doesn't enter Kyon's room because he desires her, it's because Mikuru desires him. From this, we can conclude that Haruhi's sexual assault on Mikuru is much more than just playing around, Mikuru does want Kyon but just isn't allowed to form a relationship, and Kyon is bisexual. Alternatively, he enters Koizumi's room because everyone else is indifferent to him, while Kyon sees him as a friend, and therefore "desires" him the most.
Kyon isn't nearly as infatuated with Mikuru as he claims
His seeming obsession with her is just an odd way of denying (to the readers, or to himself) that he's in love with Haruhi. This troper finds that the constant praise Mikuru gets from him is a bit much. Of course, this only works if the above theory is true
Kyon's real name is Lawrence.
This is an expansion on the above theory about Kyon not being Japanese. Haruhi at one point mentions that Kyon's real name is hard to say, and Lawrence would be hard for a Japanese person to pronounce. It also brings to mind TE Lawrence, of Lawrence Of Arabia fame, a British soldier who wielded considerable power in the Middle East during his lifetime and which ties in somewhat with the statement that Kyon has a 'regal-sounding' name.
The entire series is just a Xanatos Gambit on the part of Itsuki, who not only is aware of the Fourth Wall but is also the true "God" of the show.
Itsuki has long harbored a crush on Kyon; however, being aware of their existence as a fictional property, he knows that making the Ho Yay too obvious actually results in a lesser amount of fanwork. So he creates a cast to deflect most of the criticism from hetero guys with Moe Moe archetypes, while making the Tsundere female lead juuuuuuust unlikable enough so that anyone with yaoi tendencies will find her unsuited for Kyon. Thus, the amount of Itsuki/Kyon grows, encouraging the production of more fanwork, and allowing more hints to be dropped in the anime/novels/show itself, thus resulting in all those scenes where Itsuki gets to make Kyon uncomfortable. Supported by Itsuki's lame excuse that he's only doing it to ward off Haruhi's attention, as all the moments where he's expressing his fondness for Kyon take place away from Haruhi's eyes.
The whole series is All Just A Dream
A girl dumped Kyon the day before. Now, he is having a nightmare of her. A pretty LONG nightmare.
Tsuruya is a devil, or the Slider herself. Heck, she might be God!
It wouldn't make sense on how she is a normal person besides Kyon in the SOS Brigade. Also, she has alternate adventures of her own, indicating that she might know how to work on different dimensions, and maybe she's hiding her powers to not cause a dimensional collapse (or maybe she doesn't even know that she has such powers). She could be the devil that Haruhi searches for because her general appearance reminds of a demon girl, and just because she laughes too much at the most meaningless things, like a trickster devil. Maybe all the plot is a plan by her, to make people think that Haruhi is God.
There are no sliders because Kyon hasn't met them yet
Specifically, because he hadn't met them yet in book two, when he went back in time.
While talking to Haruhi, she asks if he thinks Aliens, Time Travelers, and ES Pers exist, and he says yes to each. She then asks about Sliders, and he replies "I haven't met any yet". Since this was more or less the point when Haruhi recreated the universe, there being no sliders is actually part of a Stable Time Loop in itself.
For a slider to come into existence, Haruhi will need to recreate the whole universe again, or at least create a separate universe that they can slide from
Yuki doesn't really want to be normal.
Kyon thought he did, but realized he was wrong when he actually had the choice. Alternate-universe Yuki didn't have the chance to properly consider it, since she didn't know what her alien self had done to change things. For all we know, she would have come to the same realization as Kyon. (I don't expect this guess to be popular, since it makes her much less The Woobie.)
We Have Entered an Endless Recursion of Time.
Yuki is the real/original reality bender.
It's clear that Yuki has the most power out of the three helpers, and she apparently steals Haruhi's powers once. As a sci-fi aficionado, she always wanted to be an alien, and the Integrated Data Sentient Entity isn't very stock as aliens go, it's quite well thought out. She probably lost control of her powers once before, so she buried her emotion with her powers. It's possible the relationship with her Nakama is her way of making sure it doesn't happen again, so that she can restore her own emotions. Asakura was shocked with her coding ability, - which is apparently above normal - to save Kyon, and of course, it was very dramatic. It may also be possible when Haruhi was destroying the world that it was Yuki's jealousy, since Haruhi doesn't go anywhere near as out of control when she's jealous of Yuki. Yuki constantly bails out Kyon of situations she creates because she wants to be useful. As for Asahina, she was probably created to give Kyon something to look at without objectifying herself. Itsuki was brought in because of his tendency to speculate and help Kyon figure things out, or to divert things.
Haruhi's presence could be a result of any number of things:
Kouyouen Academy is only an all-girls school so Haruhi could go to North High.
This might make no sense, and in fact seem outright contradictory, but bear with me for a second. Kouyouen is the school at the bottom of the hill leading to North High in the novels. In the "real" universe, it's a high class, all-girls school. But in the "normal" alternate universe in the fourth book, it's a co-ed school, and Haruhi goes there instead of North High. The rest of this theory is assuming that the "normal" universe is identical to how it would have been without Haruhi's powers, with the exception of Real!Yuki's keys.
Haruhi, being a brilliant student, was likely on track to going to Kouyouen after leaving East Junior High. However, she wanted to go to North High to find the mysterious John Smith. So, her mind made Kouyouen an all-girls school. We've never seen Haruhi's parents up to this point, but I assume they're fairly responsible. They noticed that Haruhi was rather... off, and wanted her to get into some normal relationships with her classmates, maybe get a boyfriend. If she wasn't adjusted in high school, she might never adjust after graduating. They were maybe also worried about how she was openly bisexual, perhaps not wanting their daughter to get in a sexual relationship with another girl. So, when Kouyouen became an all-girls school, they didn't want to send her there, and sent her to North High instead.
Of course, this theory has almost no impact on anything whatsoever, I just noticed it and didn't think any conclusion was outright stated. Another possibility is that Real!Yuki made the school a co-ed, so that Kyon would actually be able to find both Haruhi and Itsuki fast enough to beat the key's time limit.
Asakura Ryoko was ordered to attack Kyon and fail.
Points to consider: A big part of this is the fact that she fails. Granted, she's not as powerful as Yuki, but the idea she couldn't kill Kyon, a confirmed Muggle, (probably) essentially instantly is a big of a stretch. Secondly, who saves him? Why, the nice alien girl who he didn't believe before. Suddenly, he now has proof she's an alien and will trust her. If Asakura had been ordered to do it, suddenly the IDE has an agent next to Kyon, who controls Haruhi. There was no way she could have gotten that close to him without said incident with her personality. Possibly, this is part of the reason she freaked out in the fourth novel. She didn't like deceiving Kyon in such a manner and tried to remake the world to them having a normal, friendly (possibly romantic) relationship without her bosses, to whom she has less loyalty by this point than Kyon.
Haruhi is Suzumiya Haruhi because of something really meta going on in the WMG section of this wiki.
This Troper has noticed that as the number of references to a given character in the WMG pages increases, so does the probability that they will be theorized as Suzumiya Haruhi (or Shinji, or a Time Lord). Since Suzumiya Haruhi is probably the most namedropped character in this section, she must be Suzumiya Haruhi (or Haruhi Suzumiya, if that's your preference). Because Haruhi can retroactively warp reality, she made it so that she was always a reality warper, and in an anime series, but with some cool premise like not knowing what her powers were. Then the TV Tropes WMG'ers got a hold on the idea, and made everyone Suzumiya Haruhi, which became the First Law of WMG Character Interpretation, Corollary of Haruhi. QED. Stable Time Loop. The most meta Shrug Of Universe Retcon ever. Thanks to a meme on the WMG pages.
Haruhi created the Sky Canopy Domain, evil...ish espers and time travelers when remaking the world at the end of the first novel/season.
She didn't start creating a new world just because Kyon was upsetting her by flirting with Mikuru. She was bored with the world because as far as she could see, the aliens and whatnot weren't coming or weren't there at all. So she made versions that would come to her and actually do stuff. The result? A new group that is more hostile/weirder and is focused on her and without as strong an inclination to keep her out of the loop. Now she can be entertained! Except by this point that's not what she really wants anymore. Uh oh.
Haruhi created the Darker Than Black universe and the other SOS members (minus Kyon) are refugees from there
The way I see it, during an earlier point in her life (maybe the three years ago often referenced), Haruhi was having a bad day, and in an expression of her desire for a world with lots of espers, created the cataclysm of the Darker Than Black universe wherein South America was utterly destroyed and the Gate opened over Tokyo. She's Genre Savvy, so it makes sense that Tokyo Is The Center Of The Universe in that world. I note that in one episode, Haruhi makes reference to evil syndicates, which are the villain in Darker Than Black. The way I see it, she realized that the world she created was a dystopia, and so split it off from the real world (or else, the world of the series is a new universe), but the SOS members are from the future of the Darker Than Black world. I think there's good evidence that Itsuki is a Contractor. At times when he uses his powers, his body glows blue just like theirs do, and he definitely fits the personality- a perpetually cheerful Stepford Smiler prone to monologuing not to mention that he shares November 11's quirk of following unsettling comments with I Was Just Joking. Still, through advances, he is a non-violent one. Yuki is a more advanced version of a Doll, essentially a human computer by this point. Mikuru is either a Contractor also or at least a human with those powers. In Darker Than Black, Amber can manipulate time but has the Renumeration of reverse-aging. Note that Mikuru is a time traveler and there are older and younger versions of her running around.
Mary Poppins was Haruhi's babysitter/nanny as a child.
Haruhi "borrowed" her umbrella one day and accidentally recreated the world. Knowing that she would receive a lecture of epic proportions, she began fleeing from Miss Poppins. The reason Miss Poppins cannot find Haruhi immediately is that Haruhi's possession of the umbrella gives her the chance to hide. Whenever Mary Poppins would get close to catching Haruhi, Haruhi destroyed the world and created a new one to throw Mary off the scent. The last time, three years ago, Mary managed to erase Haruhi's memory of the chase and enlisted the help of the supernatural forces to keep Haruhi ignorant until Mary can steal back her umbrella. Then Haruhi will have to listen to the lecture over a cup of tea.
Kyon, who is a slider, comes actually from another universe. And was adopted.
It's all a Laser Guided Amnesia. In the universe, where Kyon came from, Sasaki was "god", but Kyon rebeled and wanted to get Haruhi from the other universe to fight Sasaki, however, Sasaki managed to erase his memory before he could escape. That's why Kyon's the only one Haruhi's power don't seem to have an as great effect on. Now, Sasaki trying to get him away from Haruhi, before the memory-drain wears of and he can call her in as Sasaki-destruction weapon.
Kyon is the only truly normal person in the entire world.
Two possibilities under this possibility: Their powers are dormant, and need to be unlocked by Haruhi. Or, they all know about their powers, but not that everyone has powers; therefore, they gather in small groups that attempt to hide their powers from others. Kyon is normal he is the counterpart to Haruhi; while she is unique because she controls the powers of everyone in the world, he is unique because she has no control over him.
Haruhi is the source of her own power.
Eventually haruhi is going to catch on and with the cat out of the bag someone will decide to ask haruhi if she has any clue how the hell she got her powers in the first place.haruhi will then make up her own bizarre and nonsensical origin story that thanks to her reality warping powers will retroactively become true thus giving her her reality warping powers.
Tsuruya is immune to all forms of mind control
The characters in the "Adventures of Mikuru Asahina" are all similar to their actors. When Yuki brainwashes Tsuruya and the other two, Tsuruya's dialogue clearly shows that she is only pretending the be controlled and thus the real Tsuruya must be immune to mind control.
Tsuruya is God
And she has put Haruhi in control for the lulz. It worked.
Haruhi knows exactly what's going on, is in better control of her power than anyone thinks, and playing along for shits and giggles.
There's nothing more messed up than thinking about a God that's duping everyone and getting away with ridiculously questionable acts and having complete freedom, since nobody would try to oppose her. Trying to end the world when Kyon talked to another girl? That's just her messing with everyone and denying Kyon even a single facet of a normal life. Molesting Mikiru is just an act of a Depraved Bisexual and she loves the fact she gets away with it. All the bad things that have happened in the series? All Haruhi wanting a little more "excitement" in her life, regardless of who she has to step on along the way. Nightmare Fuel if ever there was one.
Haruhi is really from the Fosters Home For Imaginary Friends-Universe.
Everybody in the show is an Imaginary Friend of hers. She just doesn't realize that she made everyone up.
In the past, Haruhi attempted suicide.
After her realisation that she was totally insignificant in the grand scale of things, Haruhi went into a deep depression. It culminated in an attempt at suicide, which failed for... some reason. (Interrupted?) After some councelling, her view of the world changed into her current one (Find the interesting instead of just waiting for it).
The Closed Space at the end of the first novel/anime series was a suicide attempt.
Hand in hand with the previous WMG: After several years of trying and failing to find aliens, time travelers, sliders, and espers, or just find some generally interesting things, Haruhi's depression comes back in full force. She unconsciously pulls herself into Closed Space, where the Shinjin/Celestials will destroy her. Kyon comes along for whatever reason, possibly related to other WMGs (being the slider? not being affected by her powers?). When he kisses her, she both experiences an instant of pure happiness and thinks that maybe life is worth living after all, destroying the Closed Space.
The Shinjin/Celestials are actually Angels
Celestial is a common alternate term for angels and if one entirely ignores the Japanese their name is clearly derived from Shinji.
Asahina is Drugging Kyon
Kyon is constantly gushing over how everything she makes tastes divine, however, in several places (At the pool, etc) he mentions that he can't actually taste the food, but finds it divine regardless. This is because Mikuru is lacing his portions with LSD. She knows which ones Kyon will choose because Big Mikuru gave her a list. This is why Kyon's such an unreliable narrator, he honestly can't tell between what he's thinking and what he's saying, or even if he said anything at all. this is all a ploy to prevent him from realising his status as mentioned in any given WMG above.
The IDTE is the Wired
Lain Iwakura was a test run of the human data interface system. Lain is Yuki's boss, while Lain's evil aspect was Asakura's boss
Sasaki really does want power.
She's just as Dangerously Genre Savvy as Haruhi, and knows that a Refusal Of The Call will establish you as a humble and reasonable person from whom A God Am I declaration would seem completely out of the question. Methinks she doth protest too much.
Kyon was also at the Game three years ago.
Either directly behind Haruhi or at the same location on the 1st base line, most likely.
The events of "Disappearance" are directly due to Yuki developing romantic feelings for Kyon.
The way her new, "normal" world was set up made things quite easy for her in that regard:
Everybody is Haruhi.
In purgatory.
Haruhi is aware that her powers need to be kept under control and gathered everyone who observes her for this reason.
Think about it, if Itsuki and the rest of the organization just one day realized about their powers and Haruhi, then maybe Haruhi intentionally created them so there will be some to take care of Sealed Realities and prevent her from destroying the world. Why? Because she always knew that she is God, but also feared Laser Guided Amnesia because she knew there was the possibility that she might forget. How? No idea. But three years ago, Haruhi indeed forgot, and prepared a Xanatos Gambit- the moment she will forget, there will be someone created to keep her under control.
The entire series is a series of self propagating stable time loops
the "time quakes" referred too by Mikuru are actually damage being done due to the existence of time loops. As attempts are made to "fix" the discrepancies between recorded history and what is observed in the past further time loops are established and more damage is caused, eventually causing the time stream to become so unstable that blatantly impossible things(Haruhi's power for instance) start happening, causing an even larger number of time loops to come into existence. The "first"(if the word first can really mean anything in this context) time loop was Mikuru telling Kyon about the mole. When she realized that he didn't know about it already she said "oh no! then this is before we..." and then cut herself off and started saying she made a mistake and telling him to forget it. A few scenes later he tells her younger self about it without ever finding out about it by... however she was thinking he found out. It is the only loop apparently created by accident and therefore must be the origin point. The final result will be the destruction of the universe or, alternately, a final overarching loop of Haruhi destroying the universe and rebooting it back to 7/7/07.
If Haruhi realizes her powers, she'll become an Energy Being
The only thing that keeps her human right now is her believe that she's just a normal human. If she ever realizes her powers, she'll become an ABSOLUTLY omnipotent beeing, that cannot be grasped, unless she wants it. Her powers wouldn't than be subcounciously anymore: If she only thought about, for example, Santa Claus falling onto Kyon's head, it would happen.
Yuki is going to die in the tenth book.
Then, Haruhi will finally find out about the web of secrets around her. And then she shall bring down divine fury on the people who dared harm a Brigade Member. There are plenty of ways that she could find out, but the one I'd like the most: immediately after Yuki passes on, Kyon turns to Haruhi, plays his trump card, explains the situation, and sits back to watch the fireworks.
Haruhi is really Jesus' second human incarnation
She's testing if humanity is yet ready to go back to Edhttp://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Suzumiya Haruhi?action=editen now. By accepting someone as weird as the melancholical and bossy Haruhi, they would prove theirselfs to be worthy.
Haruhi is actually a tool of Noein
Haruhi is being used to weaken the fabric of reality and merge this timespace into Shangri-la, also known as Closed Space. The Celestials are actually Kyons from alternate universes who failed to prevent their worlds from being assimilated; their destructive habits are actually an attempt to halt the spread of Shangri-la. Remember, Kyon turns into a Celestial in the first episode of Suzumiya Haruhi-chan. Coincidence? I think not.
If Haruhi knows about her powers and consequences, she'll give up them.
She'll conclude that she never really needed them, and what she always needed were true friends. And this will open a breach for the true Big Bad, that will destroy the Universe. Her Closed Spaces, and to some extent, the very existence of her powers were actually keeping it at bay.
Kyon's real name is Genghis
Or perhaps the name of one of the other Khans. As they ruled a large portion of Asia, it definitely qualifies as regal sounding, and the jump from Khan to Kyon is an easy one to make.
Kyon doesn't realise Haruhi's feelings for him because she doesn't want him to
It would explain why Kyon, whos shown how intuitive on feelings and motives previously just doesn't seem to get it.
Haruhi beleives that "John Smith" is living the life she wants.
When Haruhi asks "John Smith" questions, his answer to the question on sliders is "I haven't met them yet". It was only later that Haruhi relised that if he said "I haven't met them yet" probably meant he has met something amazing and possibly lives an extrordinary life. Thus she infiltrated the school to find him, only to fail. Not giving up she enrolls into the school to find clues that only a student could find, such as past members of clubs.
The shadow that Haruhi saw while on the island is somehow connected to Kyon's sister.
In the novels Kyon's sister doesn't go to the island, and the shadow doesn't appear.
The members of the SOS Brigade are exactly what they appear to be.
...in addition to the fact that they are, you know, an alien, esper and a time traveler, respectively. For characters who are in a show with quite a few mind screw-y elements they themselves are surprisingly true to themselves despite their supernatural origins. Yuki, Mikuru and Koizumi aren't pretending to be who they are, they just are who they are. Even Koizumi's manufactered personality (which probably isn't even as good a cover personality as he thinks it is) seems like something he might do even if he wasn't a psychic secret agent. Despite the secrets they all must keep their inherent truth of character is why this particular group was chosen by Haruhi out of all the aliens, espers, and time travelers there are out there.
Itsuki is being Ambiguously Gay in the way he is as two different backup plans.
Plan 1: In the event that Haruhi is a Yaoi Fangirl: Get Kyon used to the idea of being with Itsuki, to keep Haruhi entertained if she gets bored with Mikuru. (This works if Itsuki really does like Kyon, because he can say it's not just because of Haruhi when and if they have to placate her.)
Plan 2: In the event that Haruhi wants Kyon: Back off and let her have him. If Haruhi doesn;t think Itsuki's competition, he won;t be eradicated.
Secondary reasons may also exist (regardless of attraction) depending on how much Itsuki really knows. For example, if Mikuru falls for Kyon (or Itsuki) and Haruhi has shown attention for him, they can pretend not to be interested in girls while Haruhi isn't there without letting Mikuru know about Itsuki or Haruhi's powers. Related, if Kyon gets caught "flirting" with Mikuru like in the anachronic finale, he and Itsuki can improvise the same thing without making Itsiki's cues obvious to Haruhi, and later add If It's Haruhi It's Okay to Kyon's act if she is being posessive of him and not of Mikuru.
The shadow on the island episode will return in a later series.
The anime series departs occasionally from the written form of the series, and they may have set it up as potential for padding in later series where they stole stuff to flesh out Melancholy to fourteen episodes.
Haruhi is in a Coma.
After Haruhi went to the baseball game she became depressed from her life and tried to commit suicide. But she was found unconscious and was rushed to the hospital, and now has been in a coma for an undetermined length of time (possibly years). In her coma Haruhi has found solace in her new world where everything is to servant her subconscious whims (auto-evolution/'god').
The 'time quake' is from the fact that Haruhi doesn't want to re-live that depressing part of her life, and refuses to go back any further. (This would explain why we never see her parents, or any part of her home-life, doesn't want to feel guilty for leaving them or re-experience past events ). Closed Spaced is when Haruhi's consciousness is acting up and either getting dangerously close to waking, or dangerously close to real world Haruhi's death.
Tsuruya is completely normal
...and created by Haruhi, most likely subconsciously. She was given all sorts of odd qualities and has an unusual sense about her to make Kyon wonder about her. Tsuruya was made to be the mystery that no one could solve.
Ryoko was developing real emotions
Ryoko attacks Kyon because her priorities are different, not because she is emotionless. Like Yuki she can not change the expression on her face easily, so she is always smiling. Her song "Cool Edition" sends mixed signals with lines about how cold and emotionless she is, as well also saying how sad she is. She doesn't really seem to fear death because she doesn't really die.
Ryoko's song Koyubi de Gyu! is about Yuki and Her
As mentioned by me above If you read them only passingly you might think they where about Haruhi or just school life, but I was going over the lyrics and noticed something. This takes into account Ryoko is made to be more socialble then Yuki.
On the way home, would you like to drop by that shop?
this suggests it's someone she would walk home with, note Haruhi never knew where Ryoko lived. Yuki lives in the same building as Ryoko they may have walked home together from time to time. Ryoko may have tried to convince her to go shopping with her.
You and I might be alike somehow
Ok list three ways that Haruhi and her are alike that arn't stupidly obvious.
We can get a smile
I think she's really just asking Yuki to smile for her. I think since her an Yuki where both the same thing she wanted Yuki to be her friend (and maybe more)this leads me to one final WMG. Also there are more reasons I believe this but I don't wanna list them here.
See http://www.animelyrics.com/anime/haruhi/koyubidegyu.html Ryoko had alternitive motives for attacking Kyon...jealousy
Ryoko noticed Yuki began acting diffrently after she went to the libary with Kyon. She realised Kyon had sparked some reaction in Yuki that she originally wanted to spark. This caused confict inside her, killing Kyon would effect Haruhi and effect Yuki so she decided to convince herself it was to make Haruhi react so she could kill Kyon without guilt as it was a mission she had to do.
Haruhi really is God. She's projecting her powers onto Kyon, but he doesn't want them and is projecting them back.
.... Just a thought....
Haruhi isn't God.
Nobody shown in the series is. She happens to have reality-altering powers, but the reconstruction was taken out of pity by the true God, that has yet to appear as a character in the series.
Haruhi heard a rumor about Kyon's meeting with Yuki after school, and it was a contributing factor to her remaking the world
It is commonly agreed on that she was jealous of Mikuru's flirting with Kyon. However, she does not call Mikuru out on this, and she simply broods on it. If Tanguchi spilled the beans, or if she got wind of the meeting some other way (For example, if it was a Xanatos Gambit by Asakura) then she would feel like everybody had a better relationship with Kyon then she did. Of course, Koizumi talks to Kyon more than anyone else, so she figured that she wasn't as liked by Kyon as everyone else. Since she was the one who brought all of them into Kyon's life, she wanted to take them out and start all over. The kiss and compliment during her dream made her realize that Kyon DOES care about her as much or more than he does the rest of the brigade.
Future Mikuru is not current Mikuru.
In the anime, anyway, do we have any proof that she isn't just a body duplicate? They could have gotten hold of Mikuru's body (alive, on their side, both, or neither) and copied it, then gave future Mikuru everything they knew about the original Mikuru's time with Kyon. (For that matter, the original Mikuru may not be any more of a "real" human than future Mikuru, or even Yuki and Asakura.) She just picked something at random about herself that seemed sufficiently intimate. If Kyon had already seen the mole, it would "prove" it was her. If he hadn't, he would be curious enough to ask Mikuru about it, future Mikuru having successfully Tricked Out Time.
Espers are supposed to be evil (including Itsuki, in his job as a combat esper at least).
Think about it from the point of view of Haruhi's subconscious. She/it just wants to remake to world, so it will be better, but the espers are attacking and killing the beings who are remaking the universe for her, and obstructing progress. Her first opinion of the closed space giants is that they are cool, not that they are malevolent. This is further strengthened by Kyon's uncannily accurate narration at the beginning of the animated series: He keeps saying that he always believed in time travellers, aliens, espers, and evil organizations. The only recurring organization (aside from the Anti-SOS Brigade, as far as it can be called an organization) is Itsuko's mysterious and rarely explained Agency. (The first chapter of the Haruki Suzumiya project also has Kyonko wishing in the opening narration that she could "engage in psychic duels with evil espers".)
The Espers are Anti-Heros and may even be considered heretics for it
They are fighting God's creation process and although Haruhi is a little wild she certainly isn't God Is Evil. so it stands to reason that the ESPERS are the Defenders of Humanity who truely believe in what they are doing. They have no true proof they are in danger, but they can't risk it. Itsuki even suggests this in his songs to some degree.
Fujiwara is future Kyon.
Both Kyon and Fujiwara use obviously fake names when they time travel, and both have acted against Mikuru's organization.
The Sky Canopy Dominion intetionally designed Kuyou to be more primitive then the Data Intergrated Entity's interfaces.
The Sky Canopy Dominion is aware of Yuki's thwft of Hruhi's powers and the subsequent destruction of the Data Integrated Entity, fearing what would happen if it created a similar interface it chose to make one that was more primitive.
Kyon is Korean.
Haruhi is TYPE-Earth, Ultimate Being of Gaia.
Gaia was finally able to produce a TYPE to protect itself, and created Haruhi. Hence her seeming infinite power. Hence why she disregarded human life before Kyon. Besides, it wouldn't be the werdest thing nasu's done.
We Have Entered an Endless Recursion of Time.
Kyon really is John Smith.
That was his actual name he gave to Haruhi during Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody. He only told her it was an alias to throw of the scent. As mentioned on the main paige, Kyon's last name probably starts with "S" or "Ta", and is is "hard to spell" and "regal sounding." John Smith is hard to spell in Japanese letters *, the last name beigins with S, and it probably sounds regal and exotic to a Japanese native (Or, well, at least exotic. Cliche to a westerner, unusual in Japan). This is why Kyon's real name is never menioned- it would trigger you-know-what if Haruhi ever caught on.
The second season was created by ritualistically sacrificing 3D Realms and/or Duke Nukem Forever.
Both these series took years to get anything done, and suddenly Haruhi Season 2 appears out of nowhere only 1-2 weeks after Duke Nukem Forever gets shelved. This can't be a mere coincidence.
The "slider" in book nine was Kyonko.
Kyon noted that the voice was feminine and had a familiar manner of speaking to someone he already knew. He said it sounded like his sister, which would seem to indicate a younger version of Kyonko. Senpai also could hint that she is a younger version of him. She said "it's me!" to avoid a name, and as we know, Kyon has never introduced himself as Kyon. Also she hinted that he already knew her, so if they were the same person, he wouldn't recognize her while technically knowing her.
Mikuru's entire "organization" actually consists of herself
...from various times. This is the real reason she keeps so secretive about her party (unlike Itsuki and Nagato): not to prevent some kind of paradox or anything but to prevent everyone from discovering the fact that she is the only human time-traveler in the past and future.
Mikuru, Nagato, Itsuki, Tsuruya, Shamisen or whoever you Kyon can be shipped with all do have feelings for him... because Haruhi does.
Kyon is a closet Doctor Who fan
"John Smith". Enough said.
The events of the Haruhi and Boogiepop novels take place in the same universe.
Before Yuki was created, the IDTE sent a prototype Interface to earth to make contact with/keep an eye on Haruhi. however, it was captured by the Towa Organization, who used it to begin their research into creating synthetic humans, resulting in the creation of the Manticore, amongst others. Reduced to a shadow of its former self, the Interface ended wandering around until meeting a young psychic who gave him the name Echoes, due to his only being able to repeat phrases already spoken to him. During the confrontaion with the Manticore, in order to save his new friends (as well as open up the position for a new Interface more in keeping with Haruhi's vision of one), Echoes reverted back to pure data and returned to the IDTE, triggering the events of [[Main:Boogiepop Phantom]], and granting numerous humans bizarre powers...just as Haruhi had always wanted. This was the "event of three years ago," where, due to Haruhi's subconscious influence, the world was not remade, but was changed significantly.
After this, now aware of Haruhi's existence, the Towa Organization created a new line of synthetic humans designed for the sole purpose of counteracting the negative affects of Haruhi's closed spaces; one of these, Itsuki Koizumi, was sent undercover as a transfer student to Noth High to keep a close eye on Haruhi and attempt, should the oppurtunity arise, to manipulate events in the Organization's favor. The IDTE created a new interface, Yuki Nagato, and sent her to observe and furthur its own ends.
This leaves only one question: who is Mikuru Asahina? We haven't gotten much information on her, but my theory is as follows: sometime in the near future, some event (most likely the inevitable confrontation between the SOS and ASOS Brigades) changes the world again, bringing as-of-now unknown changes that work against the Towa Organization, and possibly the world in general. As a result, Towa pulls a Skynet and sends back the now-adult Mikuru in an attempt to re-write the past by manipulating her past self to change events in their favor. Whether Mikuru was a Towa employee to start with is unknown; I tend to think she would be, which would explain her apparently intense fear of Nagato and the latter's rather cold reception to her (seeing as how her employers essentially destroyed Yuki's predecessor). As for Boogiepop, he is well aware of Haruhi's existence and her potential to become a "threat to the world," but seeing as she has mellowed out quite a bit and was never an actively malicious threat, he is leaving her alone...for now, anyway.
The Computer Society President's name isn't Ya-*meow*.
Considering that Emiri was lying about being the Prez's girlfriend, she doesn't know anything about him.
Haruhi erased her own memory of being a God or whatever she is
If anyone became omnipotent, I would suspect they would become extremely lonely. Everyone would be pleading them for something, praising them, or whatever and noone would treat them like an equal. Haruhi became distressed at this and had no friends, only Mikuru's storybook is a horrible portent of things to come.
Since Kyon and Nagato's stories were based on true events, there's no reason to think Mikuru's isn't either. Discounting the Snow White bits, Mikuru is telling the story of how Haruhi rose to take over the world. First she took control of Koizumi (the Tactician) group's resources. Then, with her the Seven Dwarves (her slowly expanding SOS army) she swarmed over the planet, achieving victory in every battle. Eventually she took over the world and retired somewhere with Kyon, leaving the planet in Koizumi's hands. Mikuru knows all of this, because it is mandatory in the SOS Brigade schools that run all education on the planet.
Haruhi lied about what she had wished for three years ago.
She didn't wish to become a very interesting person on the planet. She wished to meet the most interesting on planet, and be a part of his interesting life, and to be told that she wa sspecial and unique. And thus Kyon was created. Of course when she did not immediately meet Kyon she decided on the enxt best thing and become that person herself.
When Haruhi ovulates, the universe changes in very interesting ways.
Of course, we don't hear about those stories because then they wouldn't appeal to as big a demographic. But boy, if you thought laser beams coming out of someone's eyes was impressive...
The author is a spectacular troll who wants nothing more than to watch all of us squirm.
The franchise's very existence is all a massive Xanatos Gambit on the part of the creator. All of this infighting, the flame wars, the fandom, absolutely everything, was orchestrated by a very sadistic author with more time on his hands than should be legal. He crafted a story in such a way that it would generate a massive fanbase that will spawn from itself an equally charged hatedom, sprinkling in just enough fanservice of every variety (technical, moe, philosophical, etc.) to make it all work. The way I see it, his purpose is to bait people he probably cannot stand into starting as much conflict as possible amongst themselves, facilitating all kinds of rigorous procedure on something that ultimately doesn't matter much in the grand scheme of things. A look through all manner of discussion of the series has shown that it could not have gone better: fans struggle to defend it, critics struggle to substantiate it, and haters struggle with both. In the end, no one is happy, except those too smart to fall for it and those too jaded to allow themselves to know about it.
Meanwhile, the Nagaru Tanigawa and Kyoto Animation get to laugh all the way to the bank while everyone behind them starts flailing torches at each other thinking that any result is better than letting the other side have the last word. No one has missed the point; they've all fallen squarely into the author's plans. Whether they did this to encourage people to use parts of their brains that are otherwise idle 90% of their lives out of pure concern or for any other reason just because they hate us all is entirely up to you.
Mikuru is actually Chiyo-chan All Grown Up.
As explained here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrcuDKac_1ISasaki is not Haruhi's Evil Analogue
She's playing Kyon to an unknown Reality Warper. Think of Day of Sagittarius; if the boss goes down, the whole side goes down, so you don't put the boss where the enemy can see them. Quite possibly, Sasaki has already played her "trump card", and so can set up situations more to her liking than Kyon can. Also, aside from Kuyoh, this would make Sasaki's team a gender flip of Haruhi's; maybe the Sudou supposed to be organising the middle school reunion is Evil Haruhi. The reason they need Kyon is to destabilise Haruhi enough that she can be taken out without her rewriting her own defeat.
Haruhi really is Jesus. In Purgatory.
S/he's working off the sins of the human race, but like Neo in The Matrix, is able to warp the spiritual world around hir. Kyon is a mindwiped Judas, and when he kissed her, it was to keep his world intact instead of Haruhi having to go to Earth and start the Rapture.
The entire SOS Brigade is Jesus
Both were created by God/Haruhi and tries to take the sufferings imposed by God to themselves in order to save us.
Yuki gave Haruhi her powers three years ago on behalf of the IDE.
The IDE always had such reality warping powers and simply couldn't think of a way to use them to improve itself anymore. They decided to give someone else their abilities and see what they would do with them. So they picked a race they were interested in, humans, and then narrowed down the choice to Haruhi because A. she wants weird things, B. she's secretly rational and won't notice and threaten them and C. She's a decent person deep down and won't do anything too dangerous. Yuki could steal her powers because she gave them to Haruhi in the first place. It's why she was around three years ago. It's also why her abilities can involve reality warping as well, such as changing the baseball bat to always hit home runs. When she went on a rampage after stealing said powers, the IDE didn't punish her not because Kyon threatened them, but because they would lose Kyon's support and influence over Haruhi and therefore an external factor introducing major changes. She finally started doing weird stuff, after all. Finally, perhaps Haruhi isn't the only one with weird reality warping powers and this is all a giant experiment the IDE is carrying out. They grant these powers and take them away again if they're not learning anything from the wild chaotic humans, like Sasaki's insistence on normality.
Taniguchi and Kunikida will both be sliders
Well, they can't be Those Two Guys forever, right? After all, they have names.
All of the teachers are government plants.
The events surrounding Haruhi and the conspiracies which battle over her are too large to go unnoticed by people who's whole jobs are to anylize data for threats to the country they are from. It is highly likely that someone connected the dots and have already infiltrated the high school. As Haruhi gets older and more mature, she may find entertainment in government conspiracies as well.
The reason why Haruhi's bahviour is so messed up is, that she doesn't know what she wants herself.
Haruhi is searching for something special anywhere, because she feels the desire for... something. But she can't determine what that something is, so she just decided it has to be supernatural. In reality, however, this "something" is just having friends and being truely appreaciated by those friends. Enter SOS-brigade.
The entire SOS Brigade is in love with Kyon.
Haruhi loves Kyon, he was the only person she cared about and he is the only person who can change her mind. She's too stubborn to admit it. Mikuru shares Kyon's feelings and likes him back, but can't be with him because she's a time traveler. Yuki loves Kyon, but is only allowed to observe. To get together with him, she Recreated the universe so they could be together. Itsuki is Ambiguously Gay and has lots of Ho Yay with Kyon. Kyon loves Kyon very much.
The reason Kyon's grades are so bad is because Haruhi wanted them to be
Kyon's wittiness was making her feel stupid, so she promptly rearranged the universe so that he needed her help on his schoolwork, just so that she could nurture her self-esteem and spend more time around him at once.
Yuki didn't steal Haruhi's powers
I never really bought the whole stealing powers thing to begin with. It was left too vague and I think if she'd had that ability she'd have used it during the Endless Eight. Nevertheless I accepted it because we had nothing else to go on, until book nine. It showed the powers were transferable and the implication seemed to be that the powers currently reside in whoever Kyon wants to be with on a subconscious level. First it was Sasaki then Haruhi. The point at which Yuki "obtains" the powers is Disappearance, which also happens to be the point at which the narrative (written by Kyon) starts focusing on Yuki instead of Haruhi, coincidence? I reckon that this is the point at which Kyon shifts affections to Yuki and Yuki suddenly finds herself in possession of the powers. Being an alien she actually realises she's got them, unlike the previous two owners, and uses them. The question is, does she still have them?
Haruhi really IS the director of the show!
Think about it.
Yuki has thousands of masks and yukata hidden in a closet in her apartment.
It's possible that, since she remembers every summer in Endless Eight, that Yuki also kept all of the yukata Haruhi bought her and all of the masks Yuki bought herself. And, since each mask and yukata appear to be different, the time duplicate destruction is avoided.
Kyon's real "first" name is Tamaki.
Since the Other Haruhi is essentially the Kyon of her show, that makes Tamaki the Haruhi. Therefore... well, you probably get it. This also coincides nicely with the fact that he was introduced before Taniguchi, so it's still in alphabetical order (even though "Tamaki" isn't a surname... although hey, his last name could start with "Ta" too), and Sasaki said his name was "regal sounding", which Tamaki certainly is... hey, he IS the king of the host club.
Haruhi is real
Our world only exists because at some point after the show she thought "wouldn't it be cool if my life was made into an anime?", so our world was created for her world to be an anime in.
The entity known to fans as O-Haruhi-Sama is a separate entity from that of Suzumiya Haruhi.
When the Integrated Data Entity first noticed Haruhi, it was because of a sudden, nearly impossible increase of data focused on her. This may be because of the entity, similar to the Integrated Data Entity but on a higher order of life, moving to inhabit her, while granting her wishes in a subtle way while just as subtly guiding her to a path that would result in it reconnecting with Kyon. It has found some form of infatuation with Kyon. As Yuki Nagato stated the Integrated Data Entities are an evolutionary dead end, unable to change like organic beings, of which only humans have gained sentience as well as self-awareness. It is the reason that humans developed sentience despite being organic creatures. The data transfer to Haruhi casued what appeared to be, to it, some slight interference, but to the time travellers and Integrated Data Entity caused an impassable rift in the time continuum and an impossibly large torrent of data, respectively.
Mikuru has a way of subconsciously influencing tropers.
This troper has seen at least three separate occurences of a recognizable section of her name being inserted into long words in Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu-related subjects three separate times. Two is a coincidence, three is a pattern.
Haruhi has a male counterpart
Why is she a girl? God has been depicted as male for the majority of history. Personally I think He/She/It/God would prefer to not chose a gender because He/She/It doesn't want us to view one or the other as superior. The solution? God split itself into two individuals, one Haruhi, is the female aspect of God. The other, (Perhaps Kyon, perhaps someone unintroduced as yet) is the male aspect of God. Following this logic the two should have opposite viewpoints and personalities, yet still get along together pretty well. (Note that this troper hasn't read the novels and so cannot explain how Sasaki fits into this.)
"Magic" and time travel in the future are 1: possible and 2: based on the skills of human-data interfaces.
Mikuru said, in the baseball episode, that Yuki looked like she was casting a spell. When Kyon asked what she meant, instead if saying "Oh, like a wizard or magical girl witch in an anime" she said "That's classified". In the very near future, the person who discovers time travel figures it out based on what he overhears of Mikuru explaining time travel, or Yuki repeating her explanation as she attempts to initiate a temporal-displacement protocol. "Magic" spells are figured out in the process of trying to set up a reliable targeting method for time travel, and eventually becomes the domain of certain humans who have an unusually high data-processing ability and finesse, most likely with the help of computerized enhancements. Note also Yuki being a witch and Mikuru being a time-travelling Magical Girl.
The show will end when someone takes a closer look at the video the club made for the arts festival.
They all get arrested for selling DVDs of Itsuki naked on film. Censor Steam doesn't work quite as well in film as it does in animation. Haruhi remakes the universe because she's ticked off that they get in trouble for such a stupid reason. Partly so they have an excuse to confiscate Kyon's sister's cat for being a Talking Animal.
The whole Endless Eight fiasco is just a ploy to troll the audience.
It will last for either eight episodes or until August 31st.
The existence of aliens, time travelers, espers, and the series in general is all because of The Adventures of Mikuru Asahina.
Okay, lemme put it this way: in Timeline A, Mikuru, Itsuki, and Yuki were all normal people in the SOS brigade. Haruhi is still a reality warper. In this timeline, nothing of nominal importance has happened, so Haruhi decided to make a movie out of boredom. She puts an alien, a time-traveler, and an esper into her movie because she wants to find them and is frustrated. That, combined with her reality-warping, made Yuki, Mikuru, and Itsuki how they all are, and created the IDE, Mikuru's orginization, Itsuki's orginazation, and a new timeline in a sort of Cosmic Retcon. This new timeline, Timeline B (the "true" timeline) is formed from that from a common jumping-off point (the "John Smith" thing), and the rest, as they say, is history.
Mikuru is Kyon and Haruhi's daughter
Time travel is never Exactly What It Says On The Tin, and Mikuru constantly gives mixed signals between her younger and adult selves. Young Mikuru is attracted to Kyon while Older Mikuru says she can't fall in love with him. It's a more extreme version of when a little girl says she wants to marry her daddy when she grows up, because due to time travel, Mikuru and her father are now the same age and he has all the qualities at this age that make him Mikuru's childhood fantasy. However, young Mikuru did this without telling her parents, thus explaining Older Mikuru appears briefly to tell Kyon exactly what he needs to hear in order to make him vaguely question if pursuing Mikuru is the right thing to do rather than acting on his Tsundere-ish relationship with Haruhi. The implication that Mikuru will have to leave him behind eventually is a pre-warning about the fact that eventually she'll go back to her own time, drifting out of Haruhi and Kyon's life as they get together. Eventually, when they have a red-headed baby girl, Haruhi will decide to name her after Mikuru after their childhood friend who moved away, and a few decades down the line, Kyon will finally noticed that Mikuru grew up to look like...Mikuru...and everyone will have quite the laugh over it all. Similarly, Haruhi's cosplay-rape tendencies that she honed on Mikuru will be repeated on her young daughter, then Haruhi sent Mikuru back in time, thus explaining why, despite her protests(because she's embarassed of being seen naked by a guy), Mikuru's pretty much used to it within an episode of her first appearance: she was raised that way.
Tying with the theory above, Mikuru Asahina is Jesus
She let her boobs be groped by God for our salvation. This also means that Haruhi planned Mikuru's rape all along.
The Endless Eight arc is Kadokawa's attempt at Springtime For Hitler.
Kadokawa has received a bunch of money that they're holding out from Nagaru Tanigawa, as well as the investments from the backers. They ordered Endless Eight to go on for this long in an attempt to run the series into the ground, so they end up not turning a profit due to Arc Fatigue. They then are going to run off with the backers' money and abandon Haruhi forever. Kyo Ani is currently trying to sabotage this by making the episodes cost as much as possible by using completely new animation and voicework for each episode.
The Endless Eight episodes are fake.
As in non-cannon. They were made with one purpose in mind - to piss fans off to the point where they'll watch anything other than this. The actual season two won't be televised, at least not in the near future, but will be released directly on DVD. Everybody who wants to see it will be forced to buy them, driving sales through the roof. It's either the most brilliant or the most retarded marketing strategy ever.
This Troper is Haruhi.
No, not this This Troper, per se, but all of TV Tropes. All of it. Well, the articles are the world itself (or, more precisely, the "Data" which Nagato and her kind can edit), but the tropers are Haruhi. This also works if Kyon is the real Reality Warper. How so is left as an exercise for the reader (for the same reason as the Brigade does not state it), as is how the articles are interpreted on the other side of the trans-universal barrier. Unless, of course, someone else has less indiscretion about revealing classified information. This. Explains. So. Much.
None of the characters are a physical god.
Instead, the non-physical god is following Haruhi around to help her get over her issues. It's trying to set her up with Kyon because it thinks that will help her, and because she likes him.
An Imagin caused Endless Eight.
The enemies gave Haruhi her wish of an endless summer so that they could get an opportunity to screw with time in such a way that Den-O (nor any time traveling character) could reach them, leaving them free to wreck chaos while no one else notice.
Beatrice caused Endless Eight.
All the Endless Eight episodes will be counted as one mega-episode.
Thus the broadcast order isn't screwed up and we'll still get to see all the other episodes... just months later than we
thought.
There will be a gendedflipped Endless Eight episode
That is if Haruhi-slash-Haruki-oh-kami-sama hears us.
The offices of Kadokawa and KyoAni are powered by the anger of Haruhi fans.
That's why they constantly do their best to piss off fans.
Kyon's Mole in Lone Island Syndrome is a plot point.
In Snow Mountian Syndrome, Kyon was visited by what appeared to be Mikuru during the night, but the real Mikuru's star shaped mole was absent, thus revealing the fake. Now, Itsuki was visited by what appeared to be Kyon and... well... see where I'm going with this? What would be a perfect way, in the anime, to tell a fake Kyon from the real one? THE MOLE!!!! Yes, at long last, this Wallbanger may have been solved.
The Eighth Endless Eight-related WMG will be the last
Not counting this meta-WMG, there are presently seven WMG's directly addressing Endless Eight. The Hive Mind, in keeping with the Eight theme, will wipe any other Endless Eight-related WMG's after the eighth. Feel free to email this troper once it gets jossed.
We Have Entered an Endless Recursion of Time.
Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody and Endless Eight WAS Season 2, Everything Else is Season 3
Possibly, all Season 2 included was the nine episodes. Then Kyo Ani realized that the backlash of having 8 of 9 new episodes very similar would sink their company...so they delayed the season a year and a half to two years, giving us the live teaser while they scrambled to finish "Season 3" AKA the back half of Season 2.
Haruhi's initial character was strongly inspired by Pippi Longstocking
The similarities: eccentricities, odd hair, abnormal strength, etc. It's all there. In fact, one would venture to say that the similarities are too close to call coincidental.
Endless Eight and the entirety of season 2 were filler... chronologically.
The original first season didn't encompass every story within its chronological period; it still left Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody, Endless Eight, and The Sigh Of H.S. These three are now almost certainly making up the entirety of the second season. As such, season 2 will entirely fill the chronological gaps of season 1, and season 3 will be a complete blank slate. The more optimistic bit: In the two and a half years, Kyo Ani have been making a real season 3, entirely fresh and without time-padding repeats, and this will be shown later in the year.
The SOS Brisage was assembled as Haruhi (or Kyon's) own personal harem
Of course if it's Kyon, he needs to have a long talk with his subconscious about Itsuki.
Itsuki Koizumi is the son of Japan's former Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi
And Itsuki's hair will grow to be as grand as Junichiro's.
Mikuru's superiors are the La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo
She has been conditioned to be unable to say a lot of things and is basically there to provide Fetish Fuel. The only other way her presence would make sense is if Ocelot enacted a series of Xanatos Roulettes that would only require her to be there and be Moe, and since Mikuru (big) exists, his plan is obviously working. Whatever the hell it is.
Reality in the Haruhi-verse is a computer/the internet...
Haruhi is the CPU or the OS, Itsuki and Mikuru are different types of anti-malware, the Integrated Data (Thought/Sentient) Entity is/are the user(s) with the human interfaces as their GUI, and Kyon is the Power Source. I mean, there does seem to be a computer motif occasionally, especially with Yuki.
In Mikuru's time, human's don't live on Earth.
At some point, Earth will be rendered inhabitable. However, scientists saw it coming, and evacuated all humans to... Mars, or something, with enough supplies of oxygen, food and water to last several thousand years. This is why Mikuru doesn't seem to know anything about water whatsoever.
Yuki does in fact have emotions, but only Kyon can see them.
I have not read the novels, but Yuki expresses emotion three times that I know of: happiness during the Day of Sagitarius, anger during the Ryouko fight, and boredom during Endless Eight. Mikuru and Itsuki know she's an alien so they don't bother to look for signs of emotion, and Haruhi is, of course, completely oblivious.
Kyon has the power of free will
Most people act how Haruhi wishes, outside of Kyon and Yuki. Kyon often hangs around Haruhi, and things seem to originate from him, even if they are not manipulated by him. Haruhi isolated herself, until Kyon motivated her to break out of her prescripted isolation. He is close to Yuki and Koizumi, so both of them are able to take initiative from their respective niches, organizations and Haruhi's own powers. Notice that often Haruhi tends to get information from Yuki when Kyon is not around, but when he is around, she only reacts to him, since Kyon grants her the will to disobey. Koizumi obeys Haruhi at face value, but his intentions are not to give her something extraordinary, but something ordinary. In Disappearance Yuki defies Haruhi and her organization to be with Kyon, and then Kyon defies the new universe so that he can return to the old one.
Additionally, Koizumi said that nobody in his group had ever tried to kill Haruhi, obviously she would not like that, so none of them had the free will to do so. Asakura did absolutely nothing until Kyon triggered a reaction in Haruhi. This could be thre reason that the Anti-SOS brigade is trying to get close to him, so that they can have the will to defy Haruhi and give the powers to Sasaki. This could have been the reason Sasaki lost these powers in the first place, since Kyon was around her, she had the will to give up her powers.
Haruhi knows it's a series.
She lets Kyon and the SOS Brigade keep up The Masquerade because breaking it would mean a Snap Back (such as Laser Guided Amnesia, which would be annoying to fake and unacceptable to enact on herself) or the Series Finale (fixable only by Plot Leveling, which would mean Haruhi wouldn't be the most powerful being in the universe any more). The reason she sometimes shows guilt or oddly-directed worry over certain things that go beyond what she expects (like when she painted herself into a corner by making Kyon and Itsuki the accidental murderers in Remote Island Syndrome) is that she actually knows what she's doing, and worries if it might be endangering others.
The Haruhi universe is the same universe as "The Big O", "Serial Experiments Lain", and "Eden of the East".
Just like The Big O, the entire world is being ran as a computer simulation, Yuki being the Author Avatar. At some point in time, events in Eden of the East will be talked about, and the IDE will be revealed to be none other then Lain herself.
Kyon and Haruhi will be Simon's ancestors.
Simon inherited the spiral energy from Haruhi. Nuff said. While you're at it, Akio and Sanae Furukawa will be Kamina's ancestors, and Kittan and his sisters are descended from Tsuruya (thus by, Kiyoh's fang and genkiness).
Tsuruya is a time traveler.
And also, one of Mikuru's superiors. As shown in The Sigh of Haruhi Suzumiya, or the anime at least, Tsuruya shares the same ignorance towards modern technology ("Is this what video cameras are like there days?"). Also, in the novels, Tsuruya knows quite a bit more about the SOS Brigade than it appears.
Tsuruya is older than she might look.
Taking in consideration the example above ("Is this what video cameras are like these days?"), Tsuruya could actually not been from the future, but, in reality, she could not have updated herself technologically-wise, and may still be in an 80's mindset. If she's 40, 400, or 4000 years old, it's up to the reader. The reason could be either because she's a demon, or because she's plainly an extremely advanced robot, like Maria.
Haruhi is a aspect of Delirium.
Think about it.
Somehow, Mikuru has two different dimensional counterparts.
Taniguchi is Nagaru Tanigawa's Author Avatar.
The tenth novel will come out on December 21, 2012
Because that's what all the doomsday theories are really predicting. It will either be so horrifically bad or so mind-blowingly fanastic that it will completely change the world forever.
The Anti-SOS Brigade are DesignatedVillains.
Think about it; we don't really know much about them yet. Fujiwara is an asshole, but it seems to be a Well Intentioned Extremist. Kyoko seems to be a kind individual, and only commits evil deeds on orders from her morally ambiguous leaders. Kuyo seems entirely robotic, but it seems this is just because Sky Canopy Domain cannot comprehend a perfect ambassador to human thought processes.
Itsuki's Gratuitous English line in "Endless Eight"...
Will be translated into Japanese in the dub. The dub writer will do the same thing he did with the "Naze? Why?" scene and make Johnny Yong Bosch say "Aishiteru" instead of "AI LAAV YUU".
Tsuruya is the slider
Because someone has to be, and we all know that Tsuruya is hiding some sort of secret.
Kyon's sister is Mikuru's mom
At some point in the future when she's all done with high school, Kyon's sister will marry someone with the family name Asahina and together they will have a daughter that they will decide to name Mikuru.
Tsuruya is a Vampire
Fangs and Gold Eyes, you do the math.
Tsuruya is Mikuru's direct superior.
If an organization of time travelers was willing to employ a 15-year-old girl, they'd probably have more than one. This explains why they're friends even though they're extremely different (particularly in outgoingness - Mikuru is very shy, while Tsuruya is the exact opposite), and also why Tsuruya seems to have had an idea of what was going on for a while. This particular WMG is inspired by a very short shot from the second season, with Tsuruya looking sinister in the shadows in the background while Mikuru tells Kyon that she doesn't agree with Itsuki's theories on Haruhi.
Haruhi is Shinji.
After Third Impact, Shinji rewrote reality so that he could be a stronger, more effective person. The only strong figures around him who WEREN'T just screwing with him were female, so he decided to make himself one, but kept his editing powers.
The three years ago incident was Shinji assuming control of the simulation and dropping into character after having run it on autopilot so he didn't have to grow up again.
The IDE is Rei, given minor powers. The espers and time travel were elements to make things more interesting, because he grew up after Second Impact and went on to pilot giant mecha. Yuki is reminiscent of Rei in order to give Shinji a familliar face around.
The blue giants represent the Eva units, and his frustration at them.
Mikuru is a representation of Misato. Older and curvier than Haruhi.
Asuka, who survived Third Impact with him, is Kyon. She was dropped into the simulation from the start due to being comatose, and is deeply immersed in character. The tsundere-ish acts of Haruhi towards Kyon are Shinji being uncomfortable with being female and interested in a guy.
Haruhi's powers come from sheer stubbornness.
"Haruhi believes her values and judgment to be absolute. She does not understand what others think, or realize that they may think differently, or rather, it has never occurred to her that her way of thinking may be completely different from others’ since the beginning. If people want to achieve time travel, just put Haruhi on a spaceship. Since she probably wouldn't give a damn about the Theory of Relativity anyway." ~ Kyon
This means Haruhi is so stubborn and self-centered that even the laws of physics know better than to argue with her.
Haruhi is a Zamaron/Oan child
The entire series is in fact an interpretation of Gnosticism
Following the notion that the true God is not Haruhi, but actually Kyon, then Haruhi might as well be considered as the Demiurge, or inferior creator god. In Gnosticism the Demiurge is usually portrayed as malevolent, which would explain Haruhi's malevolent attitude towards members of the SOS Brigade, especially Mikuru....
Kyon is really Nagaru Tanigawa
and Nagaru Tanigawa is a slider who narrates his experience with Haruhi in this universe.
Haruhi entered "The Jaunt" while dreaming.
Think about it. The story explains what happens to people who are awake during
the jaunt, but what if your dreaming? Haruhi got bored with her absolute power,
and now after a few millenia, has completely forgotten that she's dreaming.
The Plan to keep Haruhi from realizing the truth is suicide for everyone.
So Haruhi, a God who is maintaining reality itself, believes herself to be a normal girl. She lives a normal, if eccentric life, with shadowy friends keeping everything that might convince her otherwise out of the way. She grows older because she thinks she should. Around age 110 or so, she thinks about how people that usually die. So because she's expecting it, she dies. Her perception becomes a completely blank slate; and ALL OF REALITY follows suit.
Kyon isn't normal, he never was normal, and he knows it.
He is one of the following:
A silder: He comes from an alternate universe that speaks a different language, but he used a slider ability to translate everything he says and hears into english. The dimension is just like ours, but everyone can 'slide' and there is only one language.
A kinetic: He has the ability to manipulate some kind of kinetic ability(telekinesis, biokineisis etc) which he will have to use.
Haruhi's desire to create the ultimate Moe character is what resulted in Yuki gaining emotions.
So she has created the ultimate Moe character. Once more, she doesn't see what's right in front of her.
Haruhi will become a writer in future
Just after Kyon and the rest of SOS Brigade will realize it's the best way to keep her bot entertained and busy enough to not alert reality, they will slowy set her interests toward creating some kind of works of fiction. Haruhi will becaome writer (ro movie director, or something like that) and create things that for some reason weren't created in her world, even though they exist in our. Nobody will be aware that while Haruhi would acknowledge what she creates as only fictional, her subconscious wish will make all worlds exists as an alternate dimensions. Her works will of curse all have strong infulence of Rule Of Cool and/or Rule Of Funny and be very Troperiffic. The most popular of her books will be:
- Cycle about sucessive generations of family with unusual powers, fighting vampires, nazists and other stange beigns.
- Adventures of teenage wizard girl and her friends who lives in crazy fantasy world and do unbelivable things.
- tale about young boy and his friend who are breaking laws of physic with the help of giant robots.
If Sasaki would do the same, she will create most of worlds mentioned in Crapsack World and Wangst tropes.
Haruhi is somehow related to Warren Ellis
Haruhi might become a dictator in the future
She is practicing it right now through the SOS Brigade.
Haruhi is Trope-Tan
At some point in the future this wiki will accumulate enough information to not only perfectly predict events but also to influence them. The fictional aspect of this is happening even now. But when this effect extends to Real Life, the wiki will become a source of reality warping energies and its mighty avatar will emerge into the real world and change it so that it follows the tropes even more closely.
Haruhi obtained her powers from a group of Unowns
If you gather a large number of the pokemon Unown in one place, they're capable of warping reality to suit the dreams and wishes of whoever is in control of them. If you've seen the third pokemon movie, you'd already know that. That's the exact same power that Haruhi possesses. If Haruhi, by chance, encountered a large group of unown, she could use THEIR power to warp reality to her wishes. She wishes for a more interesting life with aliens, espers, etc. and the whole shebang starts from there. The unowns continue to stay mentally connected to her, and alter the world to her suiting. She has powers, but only indirectly through the unown.
Haruhi is a Primordial.
The world itself is her body, and the "Haruhi" everyone interacts with is her Jouten. The SOS Brigade are her souls, and Kyon is her Fetich.
There never was an endless recursion of time.
Yuki glitched and started remembering her day from other universes. In the one where Kyon finished his homework, something related to that clicked the glitch out of place so that Yuki's day from those universes wouldn't be remembered by other universes, which is the cause of the differences between the days. Either the glitch or her usual method of operation had her count each day rather than look back to the assigned date of the given day, so it merely appeared that every alternate universe in which the glitch was not stopped before midnight was a separate day in Yuki's personal timeline (the glitch could even have resolved itself at midnight, and Kyon finishing his homework was just the most noticeable difference between those universes and the one in the show). Less seriously, Itsuki can see the future, and wanted to start an endless recursion of meme, with which Yuki played along.
The computer club president's name is phonetically similar to "Ya-*nyan*".
It could be that he had an unusual name, say, surname Ya from chinese ancestry and personal name Nyan or (misread) ryan[sic] from a hebrew-speaking parent or parent who found western or mythological names interesting, or that his favorite snack was at one time YanYan (or someone called him that after an embarassing incident involving chocolate creme) and he would Never Live It Down.
This is all a convoluted plan to get Haruhi the most interesting boyfriend ever.
Near the beginning Haruhi admits that she'd date anyone as long as they were interesting. She seems to like Kyon, but (according to Itsuki) he's completely normal. Considering she was hoping for a time traveler, Esper, alien, or slider this is quite depressing. To fix this she's been rewriting the world so that instead of being normal Kyon becomes all these things. Kyon times back in time during Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody. If you define Esper as person who enters Closed Space and stops the Celestials then techically he's an Esper because of the kiss. I haven't gotten far enough in the books yet, but you might be able to count his existence in a changed world as an alien or slider.
Kyon is in an asylum.
This is all the ramblings of an otherwise bright young man who thinks one of his classmates is God, that another is a time-traveler from the future, another is a cyborg, another is an esper, and that he might actually be God. His classmates, teachers and family first started noticing ominous signs when he started talking to himself. Then one day the poor guy just had a breakdown. "OKAY, I ADMIT IT!!! YOU'RE GOD, SUZUMIYA-SAMA!!! GO AHEAD AND RECREATE REALITY IF YOU WANT!!! OR IS IT I WHO AM? Maybe we both are! We can rule together! BOW BEFORE ME, MORTALS!!! OR FACE OUR WRATH!!! FACE OUR WRAAAAAATH!!! WA-HA-HA-HAAAA!!!"
Kyon and Haruhi aren't gods per say- it is their interaction and relationship that is the actual power that shapes things.
In other words, they're co-creators like in some pantheons. Haruhi is someone who wants to believe in weird things but subconsciously is still grounded in reality (such as it is) and a normal world; she is capable of enjoying doing crazy things because she's doing it with her friends though she may say she's doing it for other reasons. Kyon on the other hand does not believe in such things and after finding out, still has trouble accepting it all; however, subconsciously and in truth, he is grounded in such weirdness. Though he enjoys being with his friends, he gets as much if not more excitement out of their adventures.
Kyon is a slider from the world before 3 years ago.
Basically, he's the only one from that world that Haruhi saved because he believed in such things. He doesn't know it though since the world is more or less the same (just with a lot mroe hidden stuff).
Haruhi subconsciously "remembers" Nagato taking her power, and recreated "The Vanishment of Nagato Yuki Chan" world for her AU self.
Haruhi chose Kyon as her stand-in to discover supernatural things
She desperately wants to meet Aliens, Espers, Sliders, and Time Travelers, but her common sense won't let her accept their existence. So what does she do? She chose Kyon, who as a youth once shared her passion for the supernatural, to discover them and have adventures as her proxy. This is also why he comes to enjoy his exciting and abnormal life.
The world will become more supernatural/chaotic as Kyon continues to accept weirdness
Kyon is supposed to keep Haruhi's powers and emotions in check, but he's been slowly adapting to all the weirdness around him. Even more, he enjoys his exciting and abnormal life. As he stops wanting a normal reality, he won't put so much into keeping Haruhi stable. This is also why more supernatural characters and organizations come out of the woodwork as the novels progress. If Kyon is the Reality Warper instead of (or alongside) Haruhi, this still works just as well.
Haruhi is a self insert of Strong Sad (from homestarrunner.com)
It’s even crazier than you think. If you think about it, having a normal (in HR’s crazy canon terms) could be the cause of Strong Sad’s depression, and Haruhi’s depression (slight one) was also the cause of having a normal life. So one day, he created the Haruhi universe, with Haruhi herself as his male counterpart. Don’t ask for a clearer connection, it makes much more sense when you think less of it.
Kyon is The Doctor
Question: What's the Doctor's most used alias? Answer: John Smith
Sakaki is Sasaki.
Both of them are exceptional, but hate standing out. The reason Sakaki remained the way she did was because she could help more people (Chiyo-chan in general, Kagura in opening personal connections outside of sports teams, Yukari-sensei [and as a result, the rest of the class] by doing as much as possible to win the sprts day competitions). Cats instinctively feel that she is not quite right, to the point that Kamineko formed a "kill the reality-warping freak!" squad as soon as he got enough power, so her reality warping powers caused the incredible coincidence of finding an iriomote kitten that actually liked her and having it appear just in time to save her from Kamineko's gang, because she believed so firmly that it would find a way to survive despite its mother possibly having been hit by a car. Chiyo-chan's father/God/orange-cat-"bird"-thing was a funny dream she had about a stuffed animal, and later affected Dreaming (the less solid level of reality where the Haruhi-type's common sense would not be a detriment to change) so that if not in actuality, at least in others' dreams (like Osaka's) it would identify itself as Chiyo-chan's father. The reason she thinks Kyon's real name sounds regal is because it is descended from the family that her ancestors served as Samurai. She got the grain of an idea caught in her mind that attributes could be stolen thanks to Tomo, and Haruhi accidentally used this point to steal her powers (and her height, talent, and athletic skill, though more of the Most Common Superpower went to Mikuru where Haruhi could enjoy them properly. The stealing of Sakaki's measurements resulted in her de-aging). Sakaki realized the situation she was too near to recognise and (with the help of Kyouko, who may have caused the realization) is now attempting to keep Haruhi from causing too much trouble. Posting it solely here because I'm too ingrained in the fandom to accurately know what of that need be spoilermarked for the Azumanga Daioh page. The _______ Syndrome sequences, and Kuyou, the slider(?), the unidentified shadow person, have/has (pick and choose as makes sense to you) something to do with Little Sister.
Book: Remote Island Syndrome: Imouto stays home, no shadow. Haruhi makes everything real Or does she? ? Anime: Remote Island Syndrome: Imouto convinces the club to let her along. Shadowy person appears in the storm, but escapes from what seemed to be a dead end before an identification could be made. Book: Snow Mountain Syndrome: Imouto stows away until it's too late to send her back home. Shadowy person almost knocks Kyon down, is gone by the time Kyon regains his faculties. Anime: Snow Mountain Syndrome: ??? My guess is that Kyon and Little Sister retain their link to the old world, their old place, place of origin, whatever you may call it, or are amongst the few beings that, for one reason or another, Haruhi doesn;t affect in the same way as everything else. The thing that makes it so Kyon is the rock Haruhi can't lift, because he's from outside her jurisdiction, or the wrong format, or whatever. This is the connection that allows the shadowy person (probably an interface of an alternate IDE, likely connected to or the same character as Kuyou) to exist, as Haruhi's enthusiasm for closed-circle mysteries and the presence of at least two of whatever-or-from-wherever-Kyon-is are among the minimum requirements to effect such a situation. Kuyou's strongly implied abilities beyond what has been confirmed would provide another link between her and the shadowy-yet(-incredibly?)-unremarkable person who was most likely the cause of the _____ Syndrome locked spaces, but it is not absolutely necessary. Haruhi is the center of a "Reason of Musubi" world.
She's shaping her world into her own personal playground, and everyone else there is just a product of her mind. She's not conscious of this, nor are the people around here fully aware of the fact that they're only real because she wants them to be. She wanted an exciting life, and to spread that excitement to others, thus, her world reflects the "real" world. The only reason people outside of her direct sphere of contact is to keep her sense of being in the "real" world from shattering. She's therefore not unique, only unique in her world.
Kyon and Haruhi are Johnny Maxwell and Kirsty.
Kyon and Johnny are both Book Dumb yet intelligent boys who find themselves sucked into weird situations despite their unwillingness. Haruhi and Kirsty are both extremely intelligent and atheletic and are conpiracy theorists with Jerk Ass tendencies. The only difference is that it is Johnny who seems to be the Reality Warper and Kirsty ends up putting herself in the middle of it through sheer determination while it is Haruhi who is the Reality Warper in her universe.
Or is she? Perhaps at some point, Johnny finally gets tired of his wild imagination pulling him into crazy situations and bestows his powers on Kirsty, who being the identity challenged person she is warps both her and Johnny into completely new identities and forms, as well as a different island nation. Still a bit of a backwater though.
Haruhi is in one of the individual versions of the MMO from the Clover world in Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle.
Doesn't know she's in a computer game? Check. Unusual abilities? Check. Most importantly... the world runs on Microsoft SQL.
It's all an elaborate prank/experiment being played/run on Kyon.
He originally attended schools for Muggles, and then as of joining High School they added a half dozen to 2+ years of metaprodigies- or rather, "normals", since it's people without powers who are unusual. This is why he transferred from wherever he did: They didn't have enough normal people in the country's primary ethnic group to fill a high school, so they had to ship him to Japan, and it's lucky they didn't have to teach him English or Spanish and ship him to the west.
In Haruhi's world, Everybody Is Jesus In Purgatory
Everybody is suffering from having to take care of Haruhi just to please her, but it is all because of everybody atoning for their sins.
Haruhi is not Jesus or The Messiah in any way.
A true Messiah is a person who puts other's needs and troubles before himself/herself (referenced the Original Messiah, Jesus) Even a Dark Messiah puts his beliefs before his needs, even though it is done in a Well Intentioned Extremist way. Haruhi, on the other hand, makes slaves of her disciples instead of teaching them how to reach Nirvana. This makes all speculations that Haruhi is Jesus is wrong, instead, she is the closest analogue to the easily-bored Old Testament God.
Haruhi might not become either The Messiah or the Dark Messiah, but she will grow up to become a Well Intentioned Extremist
Haruhi has an independent sense of morality, and wants to spread her ideals by creating the SOS Brigade. The real distraction to her attempt is Mikuru.
Alternatively: Haruhi is a toned-down Dark Messiah for otaku!
She will rape Mikuru and be betrayed by Kyon for our sins.
Kyon is quite intelligent but has ADD or something similar
Alright, not as earthshaking as the "Kyon is God" theories, but consider it. His narration is peppered with allusions to science, mythology, mathematics, literature, history, and everything else under the sun. He says he read voraciously as a young child, even though his performance in school makes him out to be Book Dumb. In the seventh book, he even spends a few paragraphs just talking about how impossible it is to pay attention in class. As soon as some sensei tries to make him sit down and pay attention, his brain disengages and goes somewhere else. He probably gets all his allusions from tv documentaries and Wiki Walks pursued at his leisure as his interest and focus allows. It explains why Kyon can sound so educated and get such horrible grades, anyway.
Haruhi Suzumiya is real, and by using Mikuru fanservice and manipulation of Internet culture, is trying to build a Real Life religion called Haruhiism
Anonymous is Mikuru's superior
That is why Mikuru won't reveal anything about her superior, and it is the reason why Mikuru is such a Fanservice Girl.
Everything is a delusion by Orihime Inoue from Bleach
Orihime became depressed and to represent her misery, personified herself into an even more submissive personification: Mikuru. Ichigo is Kyon, who wants to protect her, and Haruhi is pretty much everyone, from the arrancar who captured and tortured her to the members of Soul Society. She became quite aware of her Reality Warper abilities, but instead gave it to the Haruhi personification because it was either to describe how everyone seems to control her or it represents how her powers are built for destruction but is totally useful and creative for others.
Haruhi is the Collective Unconscious
Her "easily-bored" personality and her ability to destroy everything when bored is the representation of humanity which does everything from memes to war because they were bored.
The real reason why Haruhi's powers are so dangerous is because of her teenage years
Adolescence is usually considered the most unstable part of a person's life (aka the title, The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya), so if Haruhi grows up, her powers will stabilize, and there will be no need for observers.
Haruhi, not God, will pass judgement on the world
She will see if the world will still be a suitable place to live in. If the world is boring, it will be annihilated.
Haruhi's powers (and Kyon's nickname) are results from fragments of the Skasis Paradigm being stuck in her head.
(Note: This entry is based on second hand knowledge of Suzumiya Haruhi.)
Remember the events of "School Reuinion"? Chances are, the Krillatines did not just focus their operations in England; logically they have operations in Japan (most advanced in electronics) as well. The Tenth Doctor only managed to foil the Kirllatines from unlocking the 'central command unit'; other fragments of the Skasis Paradigm, granting various 'powers', were still decoded succesfully-albeit not in control by the Krillatines but by the decoders (i.e. the children) themselves. Two of the 'genius children' the Krillatines were using happened to be Haruhi and Kyon. Thus, without the 'central command unit' being used by the Krillatines, those two were free to run around with partial power of the Skasis Paradigm stuck in their heads. Whereupon Haruhi decided to use it to create a new, alternate universe completely (3 years ago, to be exact) and Kyon, from the Skasis Paradigm, decided that "John Smith" was a pretty nice name (and, if the 'slider' theories are true, he also has the 'transdimension travel program' stuck in his brain too).
Mikuru and Koizumi are fragments of Xellos
As we are told, most Mazoku lords have both a general and a priest, but Xellos fills both roles. Until his master (who most likely now goes by "Haruhi") changed her mind one day and split Xellos into a general (Koizumi) and a priest (Mikuru). Mikuru got the winking "that's a secret" Catch Phrase, teleportation and ability to appear harmless, and Koizumi got most of the other stuff.
Somebody will attempt to murder Haruhi, causing Instrumentality
It would be either SEELE or Charles zi Britannia, because if there is no God to forge the world, it will fall apart, giving way to Instrumentality.
This series takes place inside the Matrix, and Kyon is the One
Obviously, Haruhi is the Source and Itsuki is Morpheus. Mikuru and Yuki are both representations of Trinity.
The SOS Brigade and Haruhi are all Kyon's imaginary friends. The real events take place in:
Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends. Kyon is in fact Mac.
Kyon and Haruhi are God
But both were only told the other was. Kyon was told what he was told, but Haruhi is under the impression that if Kyon gets too complacent and bored the universe will eventually quietly switch off. Kyon thinks that the world is mostly "normal" bcause Haruhi's subconcious doesn't believe in the supernatural, but Haruhi thinks that supernatural things exist in small doses because Kyon's subconcious mind thinks they do. This has the effect of turning Yuki, Mikuru and Koizumi into the most manipulative characters in history, and becoming completely nonsesensical when combined with the later novels. (If someone came up with something similar, I'm sorry, I just can't rbing myself to read this entire beast of a page.)
It's all HARUHI'S dream.
Haruhi is a teenage girl, and as we all know, teenage girls are brats who want the world wrapped around their fingers. At the same time, Haruhi wants to be special and hang out with special people, so she's dreaming of a world where she controls everything, gets a hot love interest, gets to act as bratty as she wants since anyone who denies her will bring about The End Of The World As We Know It, and hangs around with people that have amazing powers. The dream is actually several dreams combined, however, since Haruhi just isn't satisfied with the fact she isn't getting what she wants directly and keeps trying and trying to get it right. It's more of a daydream that way.
When Haruhi FINALLY discovers her power, she'll become Drunk On The Dark Side.
The SOS Brigade will have to destroy her when she becomes a danger to the universe as a whole, and Kyon will be the only one who can. After he succeeds, Mikuru and Yuki somehow reset time and space so that it would seem like Haruhi never existed. They also reset Kyon's memories so that he never knew of Haruhi or them. They all return to their respective lives, and a Bittersweet Ending is had.
Haruhi is a Reincarnation of Daisy Miller.
Self Explanatory if you've read the story of a Blithe Spirit/Strange Girl who tried to overload the world with fun, whom everyone saw as a freak due to her eccentricities, and who fell in love with the most boring, mundane guy on the planet who became attracted to her against his better judgement.
The ponytail was a test.
Haruhi never wore a ponytail after that day. The ponytail was a test to see if the dream was real. Haruhi knows that it was, now.
Haruhi doesn't really have the hots for Kyon.
Haruhi doesn't want to be in a world where Kyon is kissing her (which is why she stopped remaking the world), she either wants Mikuru or distrusts her (hence the jealousy). After all, Haruhi isn't really one to hide her emotions. If she did have the hots for Kyon, she wouldn't hide it with bullying him. Which means that she was right all along: She wants someone weird. Then again, Haruhi does like being proved wrong.
Haruhi is an ordinary human.
Tanigawa Nagaru is a New Agist, and a believer in Human Potential. Haruhi is able to tap into the powers that all ordinary humans have.
Haruhi doesn't mean THAT kind of slider.
Nobody ever asked what kind of SLIder...ow. I think my brain cracked from all that... We have entered an Endless Recursion of time... That's enough out of you.
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