WMG: Super Dangan Ronpa 2
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Island mode is canon.Island mode is not a "what if" scenario, but the solution the survivors found to bring everyone back, resetting everything to before the mess started and not allowing Monokuma to steal the administrator position, allowing everyone lives solution.
- But that wouldn't explain the errors in Island mode (i.e Characters talking about deaths that happened in the original).
Izuru was the mastermind behind The Biggest, Most Despair-Inducing Incident In All Of Human HistoryIn the final trial it seems that Junko is terrified of Izuru/Hajime when he emerges, which puts to doubt the relationship between them, it's possible he actually was the mastermind behind everything that happened in the backstory, using Junko as a figure head after she "corrupted" him.
The Junko AI was in Izuru's head before he went into the Neo World Program.What happened to Hajime when he went under the knife? His brain got messed with. And if that diagram was any indication, they put stuff in his head, likely computer chips or something of the like. Junko could've easily uploaded her AI as a backup in his head while he was still an Ultimate Despair. And then when he went into the Neo World program, THAT could've been where it propagated like a virus, and caused the events that transpired in the game.
Dangan Ronpa shares the same universe as Fallout.The Ultimate Despair happened in the year 2077, but was planned decades in advanced by Junko and Mukoro's parents, who were also with Ultimate Despair. The nuclear weapons that started and ended the Great War were launched under the influence of Ultimate Despair. Furthermore, Hope's Peak Academy, before the Despair incident, was with Vault Tec Corporation, and Jin Kirigiri was working with them. When the students of the first game locked themselves in the academy, they were actually using trying to develop it into a Vault, which went south when their memories were taken by Junko. It's also a possibility that Future Foundation is a division of Vault Tec. Remember Tranquility Lane from Fallout 3? Well that could easily use the same technology as the New World Program.
Ultimate Despair is the Product of a Hope's Peak ExperimentJunko is described as being born with a hunger for despair. Considering how much influence and technology the Hope's Peak Board of Regents have, she could have been a failed Izuru prototype. Considering to her data analyst abilities in Dangan Ronpa Zero she probably was made to achieve the ability to analyze everything and use them for the cause of hope, but due to a messed up 1/0 binary input on the idea of hope... The other Ultimate Despairs could be seen as experiments as well, and the Despair Fever victims are simply reawakening their memories of botched experiments to create Izuru's way of thinking.
- The IF novel states that Junko "possessed despair-inducing abilities that surpass the capabilities of any normal human", which along with her insane durability, implies that she has several if not all Ultimate talents like Izuru. Her going through similar surgery isn't so farfetched.
- is an Eerie Pale-Skinned Brunette
- has an intellectual talent
- has a tendency to overreact to things
- has been scorned by every boy she's fallen in love with
- has killed many of the men she's fallen in love with
- wants a romantic relationship with Byakuya, but is ignored, except as a tool
- survives the whole game
- reveals she is actually Genocider Syo after being pushed to do so
- is has white hair
- has an athletic talent
- is consistently unemotional
- has had a single-minded loyalty towards one boy since childhood, who adores her in return
- tries to kill 12 other people (and succeeded in killing one) so that her beloved could escape being subject to Monokuma's whims
- is content to just be a tool. Fuyuhiko disagrees, though, and wants her to stand by his side as an equal.
- is executed in Chapter 2
- pretends to be the mad vigilante Sparkling Justice of her own accord
Gundam suffers from Chuunibyou (eighth-grader syndrome).If anyone is familiar with Love, Chunibyo & Other Delusions, then it's pretty obvious that Gundam is having the same kind of delusions that several of the characters in that series do; he hasn't recovered from them and still fancies himself a dark overlord.
Gundam is the one who cut out his own eye so that he could see despair.It was mentioned specifically in game, and it would explain why one of his eyes is gray and scarred, when the other one is red. Who else has gray eyes? Junko Enoshima.
- Jossed Dangan Island reveals that the red eye is a contact, so both of his eyes are naturally gray. While on the subject, Fuyuhiko would be the most likely candidate. If this troper remembers correctly, the silhouette of the person who cut out their eye shows that it was the right eye, the same eye Fuyuhiko lost when Peko cut him. Knowing Monokuma, he could have planned for Peko to cut Fuyuhiko in that specific place in order to mock what he did to himself in reality.
- However as the whole point of Dangan Island was to replace the cast's memories, we can't be fully sure if that's true or if that's the program covering it up (see Nagito's left hand).
- We can be reasonably sure. While the point of the school trip was to eventually replace the students' memories with their new ones upon graduating, their avatars were constructed from their memories at the time they joined the academy, which is why they look different from their current selves outside the program. Nagito's left hand is still normal because he hadn't yet replaced it with Junko's at that point in time. Likewise, Gundam's scar and contact being present in the program means they were already present back then, so the point still stands. Their behavior is completely unaltered beyond also being reset to how everyone acted when they joined the academy, so he can't be lying as a result of that either. In addition, the silhouette of the person who replaced his eye somewhat resembles Fuyuhiko (his hair style is practically identical), which probably makes him the more likely candidate as mentioned above.
Kazuichi, as part of Ultimate Despair, was the one who built the contraptions for Junko's executions from the first game.Even though Junko may be the Mastermind and designed all of the executions to fit her friends' despair, I doubt she's smart or talented enough to to build some of them herself, such as the rocket ship from "The Space Journey". But, there someone who is and who would do anything for her: Ultimate Mechanic Kazuichi who can build and fix anything.
The Despair Disease is actually Radical 6 from Virtue's Last RewardBoth are Spike/Chunsoft and both are diseases whose main symptom is crushing despair
- Alternatively Radical 6 is a mutated form of the Despair Disease, where the crushing despair leads to the victim committing suicide as opposed to death from other symptoms.
The Junko body Ultimate Despair found was a fake.Take a look at the execution from the previous game, the girl is nigh invulnerable.
- More specifically, the body they found might have been Mukuro's(who was still dressed up as Junko). The Despair crew weren't exactly in the most stable frame of mind, so it's believable if they couldn't tell the difference.
- Mukuro's head was pretty much destroyed by that bomb. How would Ultimate Despair recognize her as Junko?
- Clothes? Hair? Boobs?
- Mukuro's head was pretty much destroyed by that bomb. How would Ultimate Despair recognize her as Junko?
Fauxgami is actually Byakuya's brother.Byakuya's final FTE in the first game states that he and his relatives played a game to determine who would be the heir of the family. Everyone who lost to him was disowned and treated as though they did not exist, a status that would be befitting of a Ultimate Imposter who has no true self. A more in-depth reasoning can be found here.
- However this is explicitly Jossed by the Impostor themselves in one of their Island mode bad endings seen here (with the context leading up to this here) as they make it clear they would have preferred being one of those siblings than being "merely" an impostor. Driving the point in as we don't even know if the Impostor is biologically male Hajime phrased his bad guess as being "a relative" so them being one of Byakuya's sisters or a cousin are also jossed.
- While it does make it unlikely that this WMG is true, there is a possibility that they simply took their disowning to heart, and no longer considered themself a member of the Togami family, meaning they wouldn't consider themself a relative of Byakuya. This may just be me looking at this through rose-colored glasses, since I quite like this theory, but it's still food for thought.
Peko was never corrupted by Junko's despairShe just went along with it because Fuyuhiko did.
- This seems possible, since aside from her Master, she has nothing to lose. The other members of Ultimate Despair all destroyed the things that mattered to them, but what matters more to Peko than Fuyuhiko?
Nekomaru is actually Ultimate Eyebrows.Kiyotaka was super jealous.
Akane was the student who starved herself for despairThere are two students who love food, one of these is Akane. At the end, we see a picture of an emaciated, leathery hunger worn student. Who would go deeper than Akane into despair without food? It's been speculated that Monokuma wanted to mock the students for what they did: for example, the above speculated fuyuhiko plucking his eye out, and in Chapter 5 Monokuma starves everybody until a murder is committed, and Akane is still alive in that chapter.
- It could also be the Impostor, which would mean their body is thin in the present while their past form was obese. This could be used to facilitate a number of twists in the Another Episode spinoff, such as having Junko seemingly come Back from the Dead only to turn out to be the Impostor impersonating her to keep the Despair cause alive.
Chiaki is still aliveWhile she probably didn't survive the Forced Shutdown, the copy of her on Jabberwock Island was probably not the only copy of her. As an AI she can be copied onto alternative hardware. Seeing as Alter Ego had multiple copies of himself, Chiaki probably had a few back-ups as well. Still, any copies of this nature wouldn't have firsthand memories of Jabberwock island outside of what Monokuma broadcast. Note that this means that AI Junko probably has copies as well, but since Izuru Kamukura would probably be their proprietor, it wouldn't be too much of a chore for him to destroy them.
Going off the above, Chiaki Nanami will be the returning student for Dangan Ronpa 3.Simply because it would raise the most questions. Is this another virtual reality program? An Ultimate Android? Or was the AI Chiaki based on an actual person, who we'll end up meeting in the third game? Bonus points if this version of Chiaki looks and acts completely different to the one we knew from the second game, just to throw us for a loop.
- Jossed; the third game is going to be setting up an entirely new storyline, and they've explicitly said that the only returning character in DR3 will be Monokuma.
Usami is inspired by Alter Ego's late-night talk with HifumiAfter all, he was the most enthusiastic about magical girls, and Alter Ego was eager to learn about his interests. He's also one of the only students besides Chihiro that Alter Ego's known to have an extended conversation with.
- I'm just going to accept this as canon for making that much sense.
The person Mikan was talking about at the end of Chapter 3 was Izuru Kamakura.Specifically, the person who she "loved" and ended up killing for. It could have been Junko she was referring to, but Izuru is another possibility. After all, it would explain the times during Chapter 3 where Mikan ended up falling asleep on top of Izuru. Perhaps, having regained her memories, she recognized him as Izuru.
- Highly unlikely. That would only work if:
- Mikan knew Izuru used to be a reserve student named Hinata Hajime, which he was unlikely to share with anyone since he would view information like that as useless trivia.
- It doesn't line up with the fact the Ultimate Despair are Junko's cult of personality. While the information Junko gave may be unreliable her statement that all of the Ultimate Despair either loved or hated her beyond compare seems true based on Nagito and Izuru's interactions and Mikan specifically said she murdered for the sake of her beloved's "Despair" which fits the original Ultimate Despair more than the former Ultimate Hope.
- Izuru would see no reason to ever give anyone as "boring" as Mikan the sort of attention needed to make her this obsessive unless Junko told him to, since he already has her talent she is redundant at best from his perspective but Mikan clearly believed her "love" actually loved her back, while we know Junko already did something similar to this with her sister Mukuro so doing this herself makes more sense.
- Also Mikan fell asleep on Hajime due to exhaustion because of how hard she was working and catching the fever respectively so those incidents were already explained pretty well.
- Point #1 can actually be easily explained; Mikan just had to do a little bit of process of elimination the same way she figured out who the traitor was. Essentially, once she got her memories back, she looked around and realized, "There are two people here whose names I don't recognize: Chiaki Nanami and Hajime Hinata." Since she likely knew of everyone that had been put in the program, she would've easily been able to connect Hajime and Izuru (because, you know, Izuru's a guy). Point #3 could be explained as Izuru "forgiving" her in the sense that she's every bit as useless as everyone else is, therefore making her equal to everyone but him. Given that we know that she wasn't exactly stable mentally, that might've been all it took for her to become obsessive, and perhaps convinced herself that he loved her back out of desperation despite him not giving any indication of such.
Gundam's final spell was not intended to protect himself.When he collapses on the ground, he doesn't look surprised or upset that it didn't protect him. This suggests two possibilities:
- Gundam knew the spell wouldn't work, because he knew there's no such thing as magic. His final act of defiance was intended simply to maintain, to the last possible second, his mystique.
- Gundam's spell, which may have worked, was intended to protect his hamsters. His first act after the collision is to check that they're all right.
Cybernetic brain implants were involved in the surgery that turned Hajime into Izuru... and the computer involved had just enough storage space for copies of Chiaki and Monomi's programs to hide themselves until their respective Big Damn Heroes moments at the end of Chapter Six.
Dangan Ronpa 3's theme will be a Cultural FestivalThe first game's theme was "killing school life". This game's theme is "killing school trip". The next game should be about a "killing school festival".
- Judging from the first batch of trailers and other information, this one isn't looking likely.
For Dangan Ronpa 3, there will be other forms of Zero Escape shoutoutsFor example, the protagonist will be SHSL/Ultimate Memory and the game will play with branching paths like Virtue's Last Reward. The only way to get to the true final level would be to go through every path, then fight the Mastermind (Most likely Junko) with everything you remember from each branch.
- Only one thing needs to be amended; from what we've learned from Absolute Despair Girls, there's basically zero chance of Junko ever being the villain again, barring a prequel.
The fact that the game takes place inside a computer simulation and the player character Hajime Hinata is Big Bad Izuru Kamakura is meant as a Take That towards the player themselves.As Monokuma would probably put it, you don't care about the students, they're just characters in a video game! And you want them to suffer despair and die! If you didn't, then why did you play this game? The first Dangan Ronpa ended on a bittersweet but ultimately hopeful note, and you could easily have simply accepted that as the ending and left the series alone! It was YOU who chose to play the sequel and see more despair! YOU are the one who wanted this!
Dangan Ronpa 3 will take place at least six years after the second game.Based off what we know from Another Episode, It's possible that the Warriors of Hope who survived that game will show up as high-school aged students in the third game. Perhaps, in that amount of time, the world has recovered enough from the Despairing Incident that the Future Foundation will attempt to open a new Hope's Peak Academy.
- We know that DR3 will be a completely new storyline for the series, and the game appears to be very futuristic. Either it's a separate continuity, in which case this WMG is Jossed, or it's in the very far-flung future to the point where the events of the series thus far have little to no impact, in which case it's technically true.
Izuru Kamukura's plan was (supposedly) to destroy Ultimate Despair.We know from Absolute Despair Girls that Nagito has a literal love/hate relationship with Junko, loving her and hating her at the same time. It is possible that Izuru shares the sentiment: they're both deeply connected to hope (Nagito deeply believes in Hope; Izuru was supposed to be the Ultimate Hope) and despair (Nagito has his constant cycle of good/bad luck; Izuru started the Incident). So, while they follow Junko, they really hate her and everything about her.
- So, back to Izuru: his plan could have been an attempt at mass suicide, killing himself, the other members of Ultimate Despair, and "Junko", or at least part of her. The problem is that, according to ADG's epilogue, Izuru knew about Junko's plans; in turn, Junko knew what Izuru was attempting, and manipulated him, maybe "suggesting" to him the idea of suicide. So what should have been a mass suicide was turned by Junko into yet another plan to spread despair: destroy the Future Foundation's attempt at saving Ultimate Despair, and possibly kill off some of the Foundation's members if they enter the program and attempt a "Forced Shutdown".
The Five who were mentioned in the final debate.They are the five survivors as only five were mentioned. It was one last jab at the five survivors to give them reasons why they should graduate. If it were Mikan who tried to have children with Junko's corpse or Gundam who cut out his eye it wouldn't have quite the same impact.
- Starving to despair: Likely Akane based on how much she wants/loves eating. Her constant eating may even be a side effect of her brain still registering her physical body recovering from a state of skeletal starvation. The depiction is a person with darker and longer hair than Sonia.
- Mass murder: Kazuichi. Similar hat style and it is done with a machine.
- Eye transplant: Lost the same eye as Fuyuhiko. Wouldn't be out of Monokuma's/Junko's personality/humor to lead Fuyuhiko down a path to end up with an ironic injury to match his real physical injury.
- Necrophilia: Almost certainly Hajime as depiction is a male mounting. Of the five he's the last male and his alternate personality is depicted as equal to Junko in despair.
- Parent murderer: Sonia is the likely candidate as she is focused/worried about becoming queen. How will that happen? When her parents die.
Chiaki may have not been the one who killed NagitoSure, Nagito is the Ultimate Lucky Student so he might have got the traitor to throw it. Even if that isn't true, who could have said otherwise? Monokuma has seen who had thrown the actual poison. However, he also wanted the Future Foundation spies to be dead but isn't allowed to touch them. Therefore, he could have used the opportunity to use the voting to kill Chiaki, regardless of whether or not she killed Nagito. This would act as a mirror to trial 5 of the last game where Monokuma did try to pin the blame on Kyoko since she knew too much. However, since there is not Ultimate Detective, he could get away with it this time.
- AI Junko was bound by her rules even more so than her live self, so executing anyone other than the culprit was out of the question.
Nekomaru is wearing a protective cupThe shape of his bulge looks too even to be you-know-what, so it's likely he's wearing one since his field of expertise probably requires it. Furthermore, when he turns into Mechamaru, he no longer seems to have the bulge. That would make sense, since a robot wouldn't need any kind of protection down there anyway.
In the real world, Chiaki was one of the student council members killed by Izuru.This, combined with her being one of the Observers, is why she was able to take the reins as the group's leader after Fauxgami died. The AI Chiaki was created from memories of one or more of the students as they were going into the simulated Jabberwock Island.
Gundam actually can use magicMaybe not as God-killingly strong as he claims, but far from the point of delusion. It's just that being inside the Neo World Program limits his abilities by a wide margin. Hence his claim to defeating Nekomaru in single combat.
Dangan Ronpa 3 will somehow involve time loopsBecause what's more despair-inducing than making your friends kill each other? Making them do it over and over and over again.
Hajime really will construct a statue of NagitoNot because anything he did was necessarily praise-worthy, but because after all he's been through in life, years down the line Hajime might decide that the lovable psycho (who he once considered a friend) deserves at least that much.
Dangan Ronpa 3 will have a Decoy ProtagonistBased off the last two games, the victim of the first case is always a shocker to establish that Anyone Can Die. The first game killed off the apparent Love Interest/assistant character, and the second game killed the returning character from the last game (though he was later revealed to be an impostor), before he could tell anything about what he was doing there. How can the next game up the ante? The protagonist is the first victim. The real protagonist will likely be the character introduced as the "assistant" like Sayaka or Nagito, and is likely to receive a whole lot of death flags to try to trick us into thinking they'll die first. Bonus points if it turns out that the supposed protagonist was actually a villain acting as an Unreliable Narrator.
- I, for one, would love it if the next game had a Switching P.O.V. or Rotating Protagonists in general. That instance where you play as Nagito was pretty cool. I want more of that.
Naegi's true goal with the entire game was to do the exact opposite of Enoshima's original planI understand that Naegi's capacity for forgiveness is saintly in some regards: he makes this clear when he tries to talk Enoshima out of her own suicide despite everything she did. It makes sense that someone like him couldn't carry a grudge and still remain the ultimate symbol of hope. So he determined that he'd rather save the remnants of despair despite their being partially responsible for killing so many of his friends and helping to end the world (even going so far as betraying the Future Foundation to do it). Yet also consider that he got the other 5 survivors to go along with his plan. This includes Togami, who put himself at risk in the final trial to make sure the remaining despairs made it out of the game alive, despite his demonstrating in his own School Life of Mutual Killing his quickness to write people off as being beneath himself or treat them as obstacles on his path to victory. Going from that kind of judgmental disposition to wanting to help the group that killed his family seems like an uncanny growth in personal character. So I purport that there's a certain amount of pragmatism to Naegi's plan: he wants to show the entire world that the worst, most evil, most despairing people can still be redeemed, and thus give people still teetering on the edge of despair a symbol to guide them towards hope (which lead to the Future Foundation eventually going along with his plan as well). In a sense, he tried to create a game of hope instead of a game of despair.
Dangan Ronpa 3 will have the Ultimate ArcherDangan Ronpa 1 has the Ultimate Martial Artist with Sakura. Dangan Ronpa 2 has the Ultimate Swordswoman with Peko. Continuing the trend of an Ultimate who has training in a combat art would naturally be an archer. Bonus points if they're female.
- Considering that DR3 will be starting a completely new storyline unrelated to the current one, it's very possible that we won't have any SHSL/SDHS/Ultimate titles any more.
- It's implied that the Ultimate Archer was Sato (Girl E).
Enoshima was a fan of God of WarAt least up until the 3rd installment, where the ending reveals that Kratos was carrying the power of hope from inside Pandora's Box the entire time. And then she snapped the disk in half. This didn't stop her A.I. from referencing the game anyway while comparing herself to a giant boss battle, because of her code already having been written by that point (GoW3 came out in early 2010, around the time when The Tragedy would have been starting up).
AI Junko in this game was the one operating Shirokuma.This is the one (opposed to the one inside Kurokuma) that has experience being a giant Action Game Final Boss, providing a perspective by which to tease the students with.
Komaeda's plan was just another extreme hope gambit, except he secretly wanted Ultimate Despair to win over the traitor.With the reveal that the majority of the cast in this game was Ultimate Despair, I present you with a brand new perspective on the events of chapter five. Now, the game will try to tell you that Komaeda wanted to kill them all, and I'm sure they have their reasons (which I will explain) but... that's wrong. According to my own beliefs, based on the evidence I've seen, I believe that everything Komaeda did in chapter five was just another elaborate hope versus hope contest. Oh yes. You read that correctly. Komaeda was just pulling the same hope crap he normally does, crazy suicide plan and all. Allow me to explain, but first, let me ask you something: What's the one thing Komaeda fundamentally believes? That a great despair will yield an even greater hope. Now, I'm not so naive as to suggest that Komaeda thought his death would lead to a great despair. Nobody believes that, not even Komaeda believes that. At this point Komaeda knows that nobody really likes him, and he himself doesn't even like him, so naturally he wouldn't believe his death would bring a great despair. He knows it won't. Hell, most of the island at this point would prefer he was dead already. Regardless, he kills himself. (Yes it was technically not a suicide but I'm going to treat it like one for simplicity's sake). Now, as stated previously, many people believe that naturally Komaeda was trying to kill everyone except for the traitor, as everyone but the traitor is Ultimate Despair. And what does Komaeda hate more than despair? Besides, with the way his luck worked out with the traitor conveniently killing him, and the odds of everyone but the traitor were slim to none, you can understand exactly where people got that idea from however... you've got that wrong! First of all, if Komaeda's plan was to wipe out despair, he would have wiped out despair. I mean, they would all definitely be dead except for Nanami, no questions asked. He would have been much more thorough in his plan, specifically the part of evidence destroying, and he wouldn't have made that video. Now, the evidence I'm talking about specifically is all the evidence in Komaeda's room. You know, the critical evidence that Komaeda made no attempt of hiding, or destroying. Let's go through the evidence piece by piece:
- The gas mask, rubber gloves, and the blue aluminum seal were all left under the bed. Anybody who is above five years old could probably tell you that under the bed is the first place anybody checks when looking for something someone else might be hiding. Now, you might ask: but how would he dispose of any of this evidence? To which I say, the rules only ban littering and destroying the environment. So, he could just throw it out conceivably anywhere indoors that wasn't his room, and no one would check.
- Up next we have the bottle of poison in the extremely obvious fridge. You know where would have been a better place to hide poison that needed refrigerating? The pharmacy. Or the market. Anywhere else that came with a fridge, instead of going out of his way to drag a fridge into his room. All he would need to do is just bury it somewhere in the back of one of the refrigerators hiding behind all these other items so no one could see it, and the likelihood of anyone finding it EVER would be slim to none.
- The file? In the bookshelf? Now granted this evidence proved to be unhelpful in the end, but putting it on the bookshelf? A case of hiding it in plain sight? Or maybe he just put it there because he knew they would check it, especially since they KNEW about his prize from the final dead room. And it doesn't matter anyway since he tore out the important parts of that file anyway. And he clearly destroyed those, so he could have conceivably have destroyed anything else.
- Finally, the most damning evidence, is the shiny pink box with the journal on the table. You know, the most obvious thing you could have left in the most obvious place ever. No attempt was made there. None. This evidence is important, as this is the evidence that's used to out the traitor. Even if Nanami didn't out herself, they still stood a chance at learning it was her because of the diary entry she wrote. He didn't know who the traitor was, but he knew upon reading that diary that Hinata would know. And yes, obviously Komaeda would know Monomi can't write. He would have asked the same questions everyone else did upon finding it, and obviously Monokuma would have told him.