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The MCU has a completely different history than our Timeline.
The first clue is in the opening of Thor
, Odin strongly implies that the Norse myths originated from the war Asgard carried on with Jotunheim, which the film places in 965 A.D. Loki's birth is also placed in or after this year. This simply does not jibe with our timeline, in which not only were Pagan Norse beliefs already well established by 965, they were in fact in decline due to the influence of Christianity. This means Norse beliefs are FAR newer than Christianity in this universe, which in turn means a completely different chain of historical events from that point forward. Belief in the Aesir would have had to persist for a couple of centuries at least, for it to be a well established religion, and for records to be made of it's existence, such as the Eddas. This means Scandinavia was probably Pagan until the 13th century, at least, which is totally different from our history.
- There's nothing in the movie that suggests the war was the origin of the myths. All Odin says is that the inhabitants of Earth knew they were not alone, which easily leaves open the idea that the battle depicted in the intro was one of the last visits of the Asgardians to Earth, not the first. The part of the timeline that clearly doesn't fit our reality is the fact that said war is long in the past when we are first shown Thor and Loki as children, thus it being impossible for them to have been the inspiration for their own mythological counterparts. There are two simple ways to reconcile this without MCU history being radically different from our own:
- The first simply requires you to move the line in Norse mythology that delineates which stories happen in the past, and which happen in the future. Since quite a few of the myths already take place in the future (most notably Ragnarok), making even more of the existing mythology prophetical doesn't change a whole lot.
- The other way is to handle it the way they did in the comics and have Ragnarok be a "Groundhog Day" Loop that repeats over and over again, and that Norse mythology is actually based on the previous Asgard, not the current one. The latter method also lets you smooth over the wild discrepancies between the myth and the movies, such as Loki being Thor's brother rather than his uncle, or Thor being blond rather than red-headed.
Then we have Captain America: The First Avenger.
In this film, the characters exhibit very little prejudice for the time period. Everyone is totally cool with Cap's interracial team of commandos, which seems unlikely for the time period.
- It's implied that his interracial unit was allowed less because everyone was fine with it and more because he's Captain America and used his considerable authority to let him organize his own unit.
This suggests a different history than the one we know.
- There were many minorities that served in WWII. The only thing remotely unusual would be all of them in one team, but that's easily explained: They were personally selected by Steve Rogers. Rogers was selected for the Super Soldier program specifically because of his moral fiber. Considering he was selected by Dr. Erskine, "moral fiber" would almost certainly have included "non-prejudiced". He would therefore have selected his team using the same criteria. So Steve Rogers chose his team because specifically because they were less inclined to such things. As for the brass, they probably were willing to give him a lot of leeway in how he put together his people.
The Marvel Cinematic Universe is a prequel to Firefly
Now, the obvious logic is "Joss Whedon
", but there's been other nods to the future, starting with The Bus over on Agents Of Shield. The engines are smaller, but the same general design, as a Firefly class ship, and in fact, it in general is designed like a precursor to Firefly class ships like Serenity. However, we also see another technological nod forward in The Winter Soldier, where Bucky and Cap have their last battle. The design of the room is almost identical to that of the room Mal and The Operative have in their own final battle. Furthermore, it's been established that Shield has ever found a psychic, ever. Psychics are a myth. In a future 500 years ahead of us, with space crime and space zombies, psychics are still considered a myth. River is a rarity, and something astounding. Also, cryonics in real life is a really pathetic science. We have no plan for unfreezing the frozen. However, in the MCU, we know that they have a perfect example of how to pull it off now, since Cap managed to accidentally be cryogenically frozen, and they could wake him up successfully. By the time of Firefly, transporting subjects like River Tam in cryogenic suspension is quite simple, and they wake up in no time whatsoever. Although the MCU didn't begin as a Firefly prequel, the moment they handed control over to Joss Whedon, it's likely he decided to make it one, because he can, and because the sheer mindfuck it might cause audiences if it becomes more obvious in the future. That's why, despite Nathan wanting to, Nathan is not Ant-Man.
There are two Marvel Cinematic Universes
They were split with the release of The Incredible Hulk
, Punisher: War Zone
, and The Amazing Spider-Man
The first continuity ran from 1998 to 2007 (although it continues to crop up, as seen below), and begins with Blade
, shortly followed by the first XMen
movie, and then Blade II
. It then starts the Sam Raimi Spider-Man trilogy
. It continues with Daredevil
, the second X-Men
movie, and the first Hulk
. Then The Punisher
happens, followed by Spider-Man 2
and the conclusion of the Blade
trilogy with Blade: Trinity
, a sequel to Daredevil
, The Fantastic Four
, and the third X-Men
movie, The Last Stand
. It then goes into Ghost Rider
, the conclusion of the Spider-Man trilogy with Spider-Man 3
, and the Fantastic Four
sequel, Rise of the Silver Surfer
. This concludes the first continuity's initial run.
The second continuity is the one Marvel is currently invested in. It begins, at its earliest point, with Captain America: The First Avenger
in the '40s, then skipping ahead to Iron Man
, which kicks off the modern timeline (as of present day). What sets this continuity apart from the first is The Incredible Hulk
, a reboot of the first Hulk film, and Punisher: War Zone
, which does the same for the Punisher franchise. Running at the same time as Incredible Hulk
is Iron Man 2
, and then Thor
, which leads into The Avengers
. This is all established within the film's continuity. Speculation and hints around the franchises also establish The Amazing Spider-Man
as being part of this continuity.
An interesting note is that the X-Men films are canonical to both continuitiesnote
, because while the other franchises have been rebooted, the X-Men franchisenote
has continued to produce movies.
There may be a third MCU from before Blade
, which includes the early Captain America, Fantastic Four, Punisher, and Spider-Man movies, as well as the Incredible Hulk TV series and Howard the Duck.
- Until the modern MCU, there was NO Marvel Cinematic Universe. The movies were isolated and unconnected. They aren't connected through time, but shared events (and, more accurately, production companies). The reboots of Hulk and Punisher were not connected to the previous franchises, the X-Men franchise is unconnected to the current MCU (although rumors imply that Quicksilver will be appearing in both Days of Future Past and Age of Ultron, linking the two universes), nor is Ghost Rider.
Phase 3 will be primarily Cosmic
While it will begin with Ant-Man (which is a heist film and most probably earth-based), it seems phase 3 will be set primarily in the great beyond. First off, Doctor Strange and Inhumans are all but confirmed. Sure, Doctor Strange starts off on eath, but he usually winds up zipping off to other cosmic planes. Also, this film would be the perfect chance to introduce charaters and concepts like Eternity and the Living Tribunal before the Infinity Gauntlet. Inhumans, of course, is mostly set on the moon. A Thor movie seems highly likely, with the cliffhanger from Dark World, and, like Doctor Strange, will probably start on earth but branch off, especially if the Surtur theory is correct. A GOTG sequel seems likely, if for no other reason to familiarize us further with Thanos and his world. The only other film I can see them trying to squeeze in before Avengers 3 would be perhaps another Cap movie, but we'll see.
Phase 4 will likely have a heavier focus on terrestrial stories. With Doctor Strange having tested the waters for paranormal stories, Blade or Ghost Rider wouldn't be misplaced. And Black Panther has to happen. And Ant-Man 2, Cap 4, maybe War Machine or Iron Man with a new actor...
- Confirmed projects for Phase 3 are:
- Ant-Man - as you mentioned, it is almost certainly Earth-only.
- Captain America 3 - given the character and the previous films, this is probably Earth-only as well.
- Guardians of the Galaxy 2 - obviously this will be a cosmic film, and will likely involve Quill searching the universe for his father.
- Doctor Strange - by default, this will at least begin Earth-based, but the good Doctor could easily start dimension-hopping.
- Thor 3 - Thor is back on Earth for Age of Ultron, but he will likely be branching out into more of the Nine Realms for his next film.
- The Avengers 3 - this has long been rumored as Avengers vs Thanos, with a heavy possibility of the Guardians of the Galaxy being involved as well, so it will probably spend a significant chunk of the film off-Earth.
- Agents of SHIELD, which will almost certainly stay Earth-bound in its second season.
- Agent Carter, which is a series following Peggy Carter after WWII, will likewise be entirely Earth-bound.
- The Defenders series, which encompasses Daredevil, Luke Cage, Iron Fist and Jessica Jones, is a team of street-level heroes, so probably won't stray far from New York, let alone Earth.
- Overall, it looks like Phase 3, much like Phase 2, will be pushing out into the universe, but still maintain a firm grounding on Earth. After that... who knows?
After something happens that proves that the world needs a SHIELD-like organization, Captain America will be approached to head a new organization under the logic that he's the one man who can be trusted wholly. Cap will take from what he learned with the Avengers and Howling Commandos to heart when building it, forging an organization that uses small squads to respond to situations and overall keeps it a smaller scale rather than going full GDI
with heavy Helicarriers that fall out of the sky every other Thursday
and his team would likely be a good start. While Cap will do what he can to refuse the name, it eventually sticks despite his best efforts, perhaps leaving Cap looking philosophically at the impact a man's legacy can have in ways he never would have wanted.
- As of the end of the first season of Agents Of SHIELD, Fury has given the task of rebuilding S.H.I.E.L.D. to Coulson, so most likely jossed.
Every Phase will begin with an Iron Man movie and end with an Avengers movie. Also, all members of the Avengers in the first movie will cameo in every future Avengers movie, even if they are(for some reason) not a part of the ongoing plot.
- Phase Three is set to begin with the Ant-Man movie, so jossed.
Just like in the comics, the Defenders will be assembled by Doctor Strange
Except this time he will be the Mysterious Backer
of the team rather than an outright leader. Furthermore, the Netflix series is apparently set to debut in 2015, long before Doctor Strange's movie will, allowing him to make a grand entrance at the end of the season.
Star Wars had no prequels in the Marvel Cinamtic Universe Timeline
Think about it. If someone told Steve to watch Star Wars, then the movies with Samuel Jackson cannot exist, otherwise everyone would be freaking out.
There have been active superheroes prior to Iron Man
This one takes a bit of time to explain. Agents Of Shield
has shown that SHIELD was monitoring superpower individuals for a long time now, easily before Tony put on the suit. Most of them, as is the case with Chan Ho Yin, were kept a close eye on and warned away from using their abilities in public. But many could easily have slipped through their cracks and started their own hero careers. SHIELD was either unable to apprehend them or unwilling depending on how well they did their jobs. Fury tells Tony that he's not the only superhero - while he could be referring to Steve, it's unlikely because they all assumed he was dead at that point. Thor hadn't shown up yet, and Hulk wouldn't be considered a hero even if he was superpowered. The reason these heroes didn't come out of the woodwork after Tony's statement is because Superman Stays out of Gotham
- they've all got their own villains and neighbourhoods to patrol, so they can't fly around in the world or ride in quintets to get rid of every threat there is. They're street level. They could also not be as strong as the Avengers power-wise. Furthermore, all the Avengers have public identities, and that has caused them quite a bit of grief[[note:*:Tony was publicly targeted by both Vanko and the Mandarin; Steve and Bruce both became fugitives from the government; Natasha and (presumably) Clint had to build their covers back up after all the SHIELD secrets leaked; Thor...is a god and has his own problems on Asgard so he doesn't really count]]. The pre-Iron Man heroes wouldn't want anybody finding out who's behind the mask and coming after them.
Most of the early Marvel teen heroes were active before Iron Man
This is continuing from the above. Let's assume that the first teen heroes of Marvel Comics (The New Warriors
, Cloak & Dagger
, and Jessica Jones
) were all active in the MCU on a street level prior to the events of Iron Man
. This means that 6-7 years have passed since and they're likely young adults now - just like they are in the comics, and thus similar ages to the other A-listers. This means that Jessica Jones is at the right age to have already gone through the trauma of Alias
and become a PI, and Cloak and Dagger would already have the experiences of teenage runaways to tutor the actual Runaways
should they appear.
Future Avengers films
Iron Man, Hawkeye and Drax will all die in The Avengers 2
If Robert Downey, Jr.
will need a new contract to return and be 50 by the time The Avengers 2 hits theaters, then Tony Stark probably won't survive. Also, Drax does die killing Thanos in the comics so expect a Heroic Sacrifice. Also, Hawkeye can't stand up to an evil alien overlord so he'll just be crushed like a bug, not to mention that he's not popular enough to get his own movie. Joss Whedon
promised, "death, death and death" and that's three big deaths that fans will be talking about for a long, long time.
- Probably not Downey, as he's been confirmed for Avengers 3.
- Probably not Drax, either, as Ultron will be the villain of Avengers 2 and the Guardians of the Galaxy aren't set to be appearing.
First theory: Thanos
Based on a few revelations from The Stinger
of Thor, and a few Early Bird Cameos
in Odin's Vault, The Infinity Gauntlet or something very like it is in the MCU. The Stinger has Nick Fury showing Selvig a Cosmic Cube, which is probably going to show up in Captain America: The First Avenger. Now, if BOTH a Cosmic Cube AND The Infinity Gauntlet are hanging around in this Universe, then dollars to doughnuts is that Thanos is kicking around somewhere
. Also, according to this
interview, there was something missing from Odin's vault... possible fodder for future movies and Early Bird Cameos
- Unlikely, both based on rumors, and on the simple fact that Loki is the villain who now knows where the Cosmic Cube/Tesseract is. It would be quite a bizarre turn of events for Loki to discover a powerful MacGuffin, and then have it get grabbed by another, completely unrelated villain.
- While it's a stretch, there very well could be a point at which we're introduced to Thanos, after the team has dealt with Loki. It could easily lead to either a Giant Space Flea from Nowhere or a Man Behind the Man situation if it goes that route, though. Hopefully the writers (and Joss Whedon!) will make it good.
- There are rumors surfacing which say that instead of the Skrulls, Thanos will be the second villain in the Avengers movie, alongside Loki.
- Confirmed, sort of. The Stinger at the end of the Avengers reveals that the Chitauri working with Loki answers to Thanos.
The Masters of Evil will be the villains in an Avengers sequel.
- And it will consist of Baron Helmut Zemo (from Captain America 2), Enchantress and Executioner (from Thor 2), Klaw (from Ant-Man), and Abomination (who they break out). There might be a few other supervillains like Whirlwind or Grey Gargoyle, depending on how they can transcript them into a movie.
- Probably not, since Thanos is set up to be the villain for Avengers 2.
- Jossed for Avengers 2, though so is Thanos.
The Leader will be a villain in an Avengers sequel
- It doesn't look like we'll get a Hulk sequel. So might as well use Sterns for an Avengers movie. He can be creating an army of Gamma Mutates, requiring the Avengers to stop him.
- It doesn't look like we'll get a Hulk sequel until after Avengers 2. Though this still holds some weight; they're looking at Planet Hulk as a possible plotline for it, which would be awesome. If they don't go with Planet Hulk, I'd expect them to go with Future Imperfect, as it's one of the better known and well liked Hulk storylines.
- Seems possible, considering that as of "Nick Fury's Big Week", he's stuck in SHIELD custody as "Project Mr. Blue".
Avengers 2 will feature the Masters of Evil
- It will consist of a cyborg-ized Zola, Abomination, Crimson Dynamo(May or may not be Vanko), a new Whiplash, A new villain from a movie released between the two, and lead by Red Skull. The Avengers will drop Widow and Fury, adding on a hero who got his movie in the interim and War Machine.
- Or the Masters of Evil could be organized by the Leader (since there most likely won't be an Incredible Hulk sequel for him to be the Big Bad of), and it could include Abomination (who they free), Justin Hammer who funds the creation of the Crimson Dynamo, some surviving villains from sequels of the individual heroes' movies, and maybe some more new faces. Then, they find the Red Skull, who takes over their group and makes them a bigger threat due to his experiences after what the Tesseract did to him after Captain America: The First Avenger.
Ultron will be the main villain in an Avengers sequel
- Because being the Avengers Arch-Enemy in the comics, he has to show up sometime. He will first appear in the Ant-Man movie as a pet project of Ant-Man, and later SHIELD will approach Ant-Man with orders from the the Council to create an army of robots under the government's control as a fail-safe in case the Avengers turn against them or break apart from them. Of course, Ultron will be outfitted with tech and weapons probably taken from Stark and maybe the Destroyer armor and used by the government to control the superheroes. Being Ultron, we know what will happen next...
Thanos won't be the villain in Avengers 2...
...he will be the villain in the announced Guardians of the Galaxy film. Drax the Destroyer is going to appear, and he is the only person able to kill Thanos.
The Avengers 2 will be a loose adaptation of the Kree/Skrull War storyline.
It's already been established that the general public is becoming wary of superheroes in light of the attack on New York. Thanos and/or his agents will seize on this and use it to their advantage. Thanos will recruit people (either shapeshifting aliens who totally aren't Skrulls due to rights issues or polictically-powerful humans willing to sell out their own race) to turn the public opinion against SHIELD and the Avengers. This will keep Earth distracted from Thanos' plans for a second, better-armed and better-planned invasion and leave them vulnerable when he strikes.
At the same time, Thanos and/or his agents will secretly form the Masters of Evil, a group of supervillains deliberately designed to mimic the Avengers and attack its members where it would hurt most, making it easier to manipulate them into doing something stupid. While the Masters believe that they've been hired to take care of some political rivals, their true purpose is commit dangerous criminal acts that will turn public opinion further against superhumans. (The justification for the similarities
is that if a bunch of people like the Avengers are seen committing heinous acts, people will more easily accept that the Avengers could do the same.
In the end, the Avengers manage to beat the Masters of Evil and learn of Thanos' planned attack. With some help from the Guardians of the Galaxy, they go into space and directly attack Thanos' forces on their own turf. While they're successful, Thanos cuts off their means of escape and they become stranded in space. The film ends on a bittersweet note as Thanos plots anew and the Avengers are cut off from their loved ones.
Phase Three will focus on Earth as it reacts to the Avengers absence. Wanting to learn what happened to them and suspecting (rightly) that Thanos isn't done, Nick Fury begins assembling a new team of Avengers to go into space, learn what happened to the original Avengers, and make sure that Thanos is stopped once and for all.
- It could be a perfect set up for a Planet Hulk inspired storyline, (likely in the form of a tie-in graphic novel due to there being no plans for one), although you'd think a Kree vs Skrull storyline would fit more in the Fantastic Four reboot.
- As it is now, a proper Kree/Skrull War story can't happen on film. Marvel Studios has the rights to the Kree, but Fox has the rights to the Skrulls. What the film would use is the most basic structure of the classic Avengers story arc: aliens infiltrate Earth, aliens turn public against Avengers, Avengers go into space to fight aliens directly.
- Jossed anyway.
- The first line will be "Okay... This looks bad."
The real Mandarin
will be the main villain of a future Avengers movie, probably Avengers 4 or 5.
- The story will be based on the first Avengers King-Sized Special. It will feature the Mandarin assembling the surviving villains from the characters' individual movies, and possibly some new ones, and all surviving Avengers teaming up against them.
Captain America: The Winter Soldier was to set up a movie about the origin of SHIELD.
Plenty of people have commented on how the MCU seems to be playing around with a lot of different genres. A movie about the rise of SHIELD would be different in that it would be set in the MCU, but would have few, if any, superheroes. Instead it would be almost pure espionage thriller. It would set a new precedent for comic book movies, as well as allowing them to make pretty much any movie they wanted within this shared universe in the future.
- Potential plotlines/stories/characters:
- More Peggy Carter. Possibly showing how she met her husband?
- Howard and Maria Stark getting together, and Howard with little!Tony.
- How/when Fury got involved.
- How Coulson/Maria Hill/Sharon Carter got hired.
- Hawkeye and Black Widow's backstories and meeting, although they might want to save that for it's own movie.
- Zola and Hydra
- The Howling Commandos' post-war life (not a big jump to think some of them might have been recruited into S.H.I.E.L.D.).
- Close. TV Show.
If there is a Black Widow movie, Hawkeye/Clint will be her sidekick.
- It'd be funny.
- Clint would have a bigger part and more character development.
- We would still have a female superhero headlining her own movie.
- We would have a female superhero with a male sidekick.
- (Crack reason) They could possibly slip in a Hawkeye Inititiative reference. Maybe Clint would have to disguise himself as a girl and complain about looking ridiculous?
When The Infinity Gauntlet is adapted for film, Mephisto's role will be filled by Loki
- In the comics, Mephisto joined Thanos to kiss his ass and try to manipulate him with the ultimate goal of stealing the Infinity Gauntlet. He was ultimately unsuccessful. As the MCU is clearly building towards some kind of adaptation of that story, Loki will be the proverbial devil on Thanos' shoulder in a film version.
- Many of the main Avengers' actors' contracts run out after this movie (notably Downey, Evans, possibly Jackson, and probably a few more). Plus, Avengers 3 seems to be shaping up to be the Infinity Gauntlet story, featuring Thanos, Hero Killer extraordinaire. I foresee some serious Heroic Sacrifices upcoming.
In Avengers 3 or Infinity Gauntlet or whatever, the opening narration will be Thanos officially introducing himself.
It will be very Leaning on the Fourth Wall
, with Thanos noting that many have wondered exactly who he is. And to put the icing on the cake, if Thanos' plan is to become the new God by collecting the Infinity Stones, he will get the chance to address the audience as "my soon-to-be True Believers
Avengers 3 will be called Avengers: To Infinity and Beyond.
Buzz Lightyear will appear in the post-credit scene for Guardians of the Galaxy 2,
and then they will all team up with the Avengers against Thanos, who will have all Infinity Stones.
will have a prominent role in the future of the MCU.
Howard is the fourth character to be introduced to the MCU through The Stinger
. Nick Fury was introduced in Iron Man's stinger, and has been featured in multiple films since then. Thanos was introduced in the Avengers first stinger, and is shaping up to be the Bigger Bad
of the entire MCU. The Collector was introduced in Thor: The Dark World's stinger, and played an important role in Guardians of the Galaxy (explaining the role of the Infinity Gems, which are the Mac Guffins
of Phase 2. So it stands to reason that Howard, being introduced in the Guardians stinger, would have a bigger role in a future film - probably in second Guardians film.
When and where the other Infinity Stones are
As in, which future films they'll debut in, and in what capacity.
- The Mind Gem is under the control of Dormammu and Dr. Strange will take it from him to defeat him once his movie comes 'round. (though there seems to be a theory going around that Loki's scepter has the Mind Gem embedded in the head).
- Not sure where the Soul or Time Gems are, but we will first find them in the possession of Adam Warlock's future self, the Magus, in Guardians of the Galaxy 2. Someone will use the Time Gem to try and Set Right What Once Went Wrong and kill Adam Warlock.
- The Time Gem is placed at the center of Captain America's shield by Major Victory.
Gamora will be a prominent part of Avengers 3
Obviously the Guardians of the Galaxy will show up for A3, since it'll feature Thanos and they're a major part of Marvel cosmic. But it'd be overkill to have 8 Avengers, 5 Guardians, any additional members they pick up along they way, and who knows how many other teams, solo heroes, and SHIELD agents as well. Gamora will be the centrepiece because pf her intimate connection with her father Thanos. She'll somehow be sent ahead of the other Guardians to warn the Avengers of Thanos' threat, with the rest of her team showing up near the end for a Big Damn Heroes
Phase 4 will start with a Captain America film.
The fourth film in Phase 1 was Cap, then the third in Phase 2, and now the second in Phase 3. There's a pattern here. Plus, if Marvel boosts the number of films per year from two to three like their release dates imply (starting in 2017), then there could be two Cap films in a phase like Iron Man in Phase 1.
Black Widow and Gamora will briefly fight in the third Avengers film.
Because how can Marvel not
resist the awesomeness of this?
Iron Man 4 won't happen.
- RDJ's Tony Stark will be in GOTG 3.
- Possibly because he was stuck in far space after the Infinity War films.
- Stark has been on the team in the past.
Stan Lee characters
It's the only possible explanation for how he's always
around when the superheroes are doing something important (even in Thor
, which takes place on the other side of the country from the other movies). The fact that he makes appearances in the Daredevil
, Fantastic Four
movies (which don't take place in the Marvel Cinematic Universe
) is just proof that he's capable of traveling to alternate worlds in the Multiverse
. Also, consider the fact that he makes his cameo in Daredevil
when Matt Murdock is still a child, and in X-Men: The Last Stand
when Jean Grey is still a child, but appears to be the same age that he is when he's in all of the other movies—it's proof that he's immortal and ageless
. Not to mention that he probably either dies
or becomes mortally ill in The Incredible Hulk
when he drinks a soda laced with gamma radiation, but appears alive and in excellent health in subsequent films
- He has also been spotted during World War II, and in the present time without having aged a day.
- And of course, he can influence others to see him as different people. Tony alternately sees him as Hugh Hefner and Larry King.
Or there's that...
Stan Lee is God.
In the life of every Marvel hero, he appears (sometimes even twice), he hasn't aged a bit since the 1940s (where he took on the identity of an Army General). After The Incredible Hulk, it's obvious he faked his death (or something) and moved to New Mexico to get away from the business of life in Tony Stark's world. Plus, he's constantly somewhere new all the time. So, he's the MU's avatar of God on Earth, watching silently, living like one of us.
All of the Stan Lee cameos have been Skrulls
They're having some issues with human shapeshifting and Stan's form is the easiest one to take. When the Avengers fight them, they will see an army of Stan Lees that will shout "Excelsior" upon engaging them.
Stan Lee is The Beyonder
He got stuck in some bizarre time travel experiment, and now leaps from movie to movie, hoping that the next movie will be the movie home.
Stan Lee is the Impossible Man.
Not the Marvel character. This is a reference to the Impossible Girl from Doctor Who
. Clara Oswald got into The Doctor's timestream, and copies of her were scattered throughout time and space. Maybe Stan Lee went through something similar, thus explaining why he shows up in every movie.
Non-MCU Marvel Films and Shows
It will take long, painful negotiation between studios but it will happen. Because it's too awesome not to happen
- If it does happen, bet on the Fantastic Four. The planned reboot by Fox has completely dropped from sight for almost a year.
- If it is Fantastic Four, either they'll have to recast Johnny Storm or there's going to be some major confusion going on. Of course, they could just reboot that franchise entirely - probably for the best, among other things, why in hell did they think Jessica Alba and Chris Evans would make convincing siblings?
- We can say that the new Amazing Spider-Man movie could possibly be in continuity. There were plans to incorporate that film's version of the Oscorp tower into the New York skyline in The Avengers, and the only thing that got in the way of that happening was time constraints.
- None of that is happening as of this moment, but something similar is: Fantastic Four reboot will take place in the same universe as the X-Men movies.
- Nope, Fox decided against that, and the Fantastic Four are now in their own separate universe. It seems that a crossover between the Fantastic Four and the X-Men will be unlikely.
I don't really have any hard evidence of this, it's just an awesome theory since it's patently obvious that First Class
is no longer in continuity with the first three X-Men films.
- An interesting idea, but sadly unlikely: SHIELD would have been involved ( its not guaranteed canon that the organization existed in the early 60s, but its pretty heavily implied ).
- In the sixties though SHIELD probably isn't the super-powerful organization it would become in the other films. The government office that first houses the team may be a prototype version of SHIELD before it got it's cool name and competent agents.
- All the mutants are the result of Johann Schmidt's research on enhancing the (incomplete) Super Soldier Serum he got from Erskine. That would tie it closer to the Ultimate Marvel universe, and explain why A) mutants are so rare in "First Class" B) why the American government is so scared of mutants in "First Class" they'd Macross Missile Massacre a group that just saved their civilization on a whim. Cap is pretty much a human WMD, and would have been capable of all but winning the war on his own had he not been lost with Skull's flying wing. Mutants? Final Solution would be impolite, but Jack Bauer would probably execute the lot of them if they had that potential and wouldn't wear American uniforms.
- Which goes against every thematic establishment in the combined setting. Still. Try again.
- Fits nicely with General Ross' faction of the U.S. government. They deliberately antagonize human nitroglycerin bottles like Banner and give Personality Powers to Sociopathic Soldiers like Blonsky.
- The MCU and the Ultimate Universe are not one in the same. The MCU is a blend of 616 and Ultimates, but the character origins are closer to 616 than to Ultimates. Never mind the impossibility of the timing with respect to some of the mutants in XM:FC being born before the Super Soldier Serum was created. Note that in the deleted scenes, Ross' own superior thought he was obsessed. Again, distinction between "unethical experiment that balloons" versus "attempted or successful genocide." Broad Strokes comes into play (sometimes often), but all of the current X-Men films are intended to inhabit more-or-less the same universe and continuity.
The new Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon takes place in the MCU
- Since the rights to a Spider-Man movie belong to Sony at the moment, the new show is a way for Marvel to introduce Spider-Man into this continuity without making a movie. It fits considering that when Nick Fury was telling Peter that even Iron Man was a rookie at one point, the scene that shows next is of Iron Man is flying around his garage and smashes into one of his cars, similar to the first Iron Man movie.
The X-Men and Fantastic 4 do exist in the MCU, just not the versions we've seen
Including a younger version of the X-Men with stronger continuity and a Fantastic 4 that doesn't suck. (Hey, someone had to say it)
- Well, you do have Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch showing up in The Avengers: Age Of Ultron...
The MCU exists in Fox's original Fantastic Four continuity
After getting burned-out as a hero, the Human Torch gets into acting, and is cast in the Captain America films.
The current X-Men and Spider-Man film continuities will cross over with the MCU through the help of Man-Thing
Let's face it, so much has happened in all three universes that it's pretty impossible to just hand wave it and say they always existed in the same continuity. The only way they could interact is through dimension hopping. It was confirmed on Agents Of SHIELD
that Man-Thing exists in the MCU, and it can be assumed that he's still the guardian of the Nexus of All Realities. If something goes out of whack with him or it, characters from any of the universes could find each other in different worlds.
If and when Marvel Studios gains the rights for Spider-Man, they will use Miles Morales instead of Peter Parker.
They will want to get Spider-Man into the universe as soon as humanly possible, but they wouldn't want it to be just another rehash of Peter Parker. The Amazing Spider-Man
producers have stated that they have no intention to bring Miles into their continuity, which means the MCU will be able to adapt a very different character while still being able to utilize most of the Spider-Man mythos.
If Spider-Man does join the MCU, there will not be an origin movie.
They did it with Hulk, who had a movie come out 5 years before from a different company. The intro could even begin with Peter recapping his origin real quick before moving on.
Explaining why the MCU has no mutants.
The Amazing Spider-Man is canonical to The Avengers
Unfortunately we have to face that the X-Men will not cross over with the Avengers, which has been confirmed by Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
saying that there is no such thing as mutants or telepaths. However, nothing has ever contradicted that The Amazing Spider-Man
could take place in the same universe as The Avengers
, but following the very separate storyline of a New York based street-level hero. The fact that they made attempts and plans to sneak Oscorp's skyscraper into The Avengers
, despite the fact that they were not successful, should be proof enough, but there's also the scene in Amazing Spider-Man 2
where Harry recounts how weird New York has gotten since he left; he doesn't say an alien invasion almost happened, but a single lizard attack and the existence of Spider-Man doesn't justify this comment. I suppose this might end up being contradicted when the Daredevil, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, and Jessica Jones series come out, or when the Sinister Six movies start happening, but as of right now, it seems safe to say that there is a version of Spider-Man in the MCU.
At least one non-MCU character will crossover by Phase 4.
Disney/Marvel apparently has MCU movies planned all the way to 2028, meaning we'll likely see more than just 3 Phases. By the fourth Phase however, interest and excitement in the series will likely have peaked and Disney/Marvel will have to come up with a way to keep the hype going. With all the money the films are printing it probably won't be hard in a few years to offer some sort of lucrative deal with either or both Sony and Fox to bring in a few appearances by Spidey or the X-Men.
Depending on how well Disney's Big Hero 6 adaptation does, other Marvel franchises will also get similar adaptations which may be tangentially linked to the main Marvel Cinematic Universe
Let's be honest, this is our best bet of seeing a movie starring the likes of Howard the Duck, Slapstick, Nextwave, or other such series. And depending on how popular they are they might end up linked to the Main movieverse somehow.
Disney will either have complete control over (or will have the ability to cross over with) all Marvel properties by the year 2020
Disney is always willing to shell out money as long as they know it will make them more money in the future - it's why they bought Marvel (and now, Lucasfilm) in the first place. The franchises of importance would be Spider-Man
, Fantastic Four
, and X-Men
, while other lesser-known franchises that the company does not have the rights to will likely be bought over time. See the next 3 WMG theories to see why.
Disney will gain the rights to Spider-Man before or shortly after Avengers 3
Sony does not have the television rights to the character, the Spider-Man
movies aren't bringing in as much money as they used to, and Sony is in serious financial trouble, with the company having a 78% chance of going under in 2016
. Sony's film properties are less profitable with many of their movies being relatively small-scale titles that earn modest grosses, with the Smurfs
, Amazing Spider-Man
, and animated films being more largely successful. However, given that The Amazing Spider-Man 2
failed to meet Sony's financial expectations in spite of doing well (they expected the movie to make over a billion dollars, but it only made a little over seven hundred million dollars, and they weren't able to make any money off of the merchandise due to Disney's legal framework), and Guardians Of The Galaxy
was able to top Spider-Man
's domestic gross in three weeks. The spin-offs that Sony has planned may also underperform due to featuring unknown characters and decreasing interest from audiences - not to mention that the first of these movies would come out the year that Sony is projected to go bankrupt, unless a financial miracle occurs. To keep the company afloat, Sony will ultimately end up selling their film properties to focus on electronics and video games (their more stable sources of income) and Disney will pay up to get the rights to one of the most popular superheroes that Marvel has to offer. The Amazing Spider-Man Series
will be wrapped up, and Spider-Man
will undergo another reboot. Given that Sony does not have the rights to television Spider-Man
properties, it's entirely possible that Spidey himself could show up in a show and eventually work his way up into a movie.
- Might not even require Sony to give it up. Sony and Marvel get along better than Marvel and Fox, and there are a lot of rumors the two might come to an agreement to do crossovers. It's the most likely of the three to go back, even in part, in the near future.
- Support for this can be found in the form of a rumor from HitFix. It's not clear if the Spider-Man that would hypothetically show up in an MCU movie would be the same one as the Spider-Man from the ASM universe, however.
Disney will gain the rights to Fantastic Four before or shortly after Avengers 3
The amount of backlash to Fantastic Four (2015)
before footage of the movie has even released is nothing short of astounding, and given that a number of fans (which the movie desperately needs the attention of to succeed) are boycotting the movie for not being a Disney-produced film, and that the film is going to be sandwiched between Jurassic World
, Inside Out
(which shares a release date with Fantastic Four
and will likely garner a larger audience due to being a Pixar film), and Ted 2
, it's not likely that the movie is going to do well. Marvel's cancelling of the various Fantastic Four comics (which themselves have not sold nearly as well in recent years) could also cause interest in the team, and thereby the movie, to dwindle. With this in mind, it's possible that the planned sequel to the film could get cancelled if the reboot fails to find an audience. Fox would more likely be willing sell the property to Disney considering that they haven't had much success with it in the past than to make a sequel to a movie that comparatively may not do any better.
- Fox also has issues with Marvel that might just cause them to hold out on returning it. But it's more likely to be let go than any mutants.
Disney and Fox will eventually work out a deal to have Avengers VS X-Men crossovers
As it stands, the X-Men
franchise is the only non-Disney Marvel property that has a stable financial future, with X-Men: First Class
, The Wolverine
, and X-Men: Days of Future Past
all being profitable and serving as modest successes for Fox. Fox is also able to make money off of merchandise for the films, as opposed to the situation regarding Sony and Spider-Man
, and Marvel has expressed no interest in cancelling any major X-Men
titles due to how much money they pull in. It seems likely that Fox will make spin-offs featuring the Loads and Loads of Characters
that they own given the freedom they have after the Reset Button
applied by Days
, and that they will be able to have a greater degree of success with creating a shared universe than Sony has had with Spider-Man
- not to mention that, this late into the Marvel Cinematic Universe and the X-Men
movie series, integrating the whole mutant ensemble would prove to be more trouble than it is worth for Disney if they simply bought the franchise. As such, Disney will likely reach a compromise with Fox to cross the separate continuities over in some sort of Crisis Crossover
while letting Fox retain the rights to the X-Men and the associated characters (indeed, as they have done with Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver). Disney will probably buy the properties out eventually, but for now it seems that they are willing to focus on their other characters until then.
Star Wars and Indiana Jones are in the Marvel Cinamatic Universe
Captain America: The First Avenger has a throw away line about the Führer digging for trinkets in the desert. This is a dirrect reference to Indiana Jones. The aliens and droid runes in Indiana Jones imply it is set in the same universe as Star Wars. Clearly Nick Fury is a descendant of Mace Windu.
It kind of makes sense. The Human-Enhancer Formula that Oscorp was developing in the first film
was yet another attempt to recreate the super soldier formula
. And just like with the Hulk
, it didn't work out exactly right. The powered armor that the military almost invested in instead of Oscorp's stuff? Someone else trying to cash in on Stark's inventions
. Oscorp investing in Dr. Octavius's
fusion-based energy reactor? They are trying to match the arc reactors
with their own power generating solution. As for why Spider-man doesn't run into any of these other heroes? They aren't in New York at the moment. Tony Stark lives on the west coast, Steve Rogers is frozen, Bruce Banner is on the run in South America and/or Asia, Thor was in Asgard or hanging out in the desert with his new friends, and Natasha and Clint were doing whatever awesome spies and assassins do when working for Shield. As for why no one in Shield ever considered Spider-man as part of the Avengers Initiative
, they probably did briefly and dismissed him as a possibility for being 1) too young, 2) more territorially-based than the others, or 3) someone didn't think he'd fit into the group dynamic for some reason.
The First Avengers Film
SHIELD has access to alien technology.
Tony Stark created a new element, based on information from his father, Howard. Howard apparently knew of the existence and nature of the element, but lacked the ability to synthesize it. However, how would he know, for a fact, such an element existed at all? One possible explanation: he had a sample of it. Perhaps a limited sample that were used to create, say, Captain America's shield, which we know he did. So, where would he get a sample of a wonder material? If this element is basically Vibranium or an analog, it could be he got it from a meteor impact, like in the comics but given the general tone of the movies, a crashed space craft would be more credible. Given Howard's known ties to S.H.I.E.L.D.
(or proto-SHIELD), and scientific genius, he'd be a logical person to be brought into such an investigation.
- Eh, in the Captain America movie Howard analyzed a piece of the cosmic cube that blew up. It's entirely possible that the element was based off the cosmic cube, and Howard worked enough to know how it was made, but couldn't with his technology. Which could mean that Tony now has a piece of knock-off cosmic cube or related material powering his armor!
- The Avengers did mention that S.H.E.I.L.D. was using the Tesseract/Cosmic Cube to try and create better weapons, as well as reverse engineering The Destroyer to create even more powerful weapons. The Tesseract was Asgardian, and is considered to be alien.
Thor will recognize the Tesseract
And then correct everyone, by telling them it's called a Cosmic Cube.
The Cosmic Cube...
Will be used as a power source for Tony's strongest armor.
There will be a scene where Cap lifts Mjölnir in The Avengers.
He's already been shown worthy of lifting it in the comics. The scene(s) could resemble one or both of the following:
- Steve nonchalantly picks it up to hand it to Thor (or just to casually inspect it, not knowing what it is), astonishing the god of thunder. Double hilarity points if there has already been a scene establishing that Tony can't pick it up, and he then tries (and fails) to again after seeing Steve offhandedly do so.
- The Avengers are on the ropes. Loki's forces are advancing, buildings are being destroyed, civilians are screaming and running for their lives. Thor is downed and Mjölnir is knocked out of his hand. Cap steps up to the plate, grabs the mighty hammer, and delivers blow after powerful blow to their enemies without a second thought.
- All Jossed unfortunately. But Hulk did try and pick it up during his fight with Thor. He wasn't worthy.
- Alternately, Cap will die through some honorable means, and his shield will be imbued with the same magic as Mjölnir. Since Vance Astro is bound to appear in Guardians of the Galaxy, he will be the next person to be worthy to wile it.
- Apparently in the sequel Thor will challenge the other Avengers to try and pick it up, and Cap succeeds in moving it, though not lifting it entirely.
will have massive cameos for future Avengers members
The Pyms, or at least Hank, would be one of the obvious choices. Swordsman could appear, setting him up for a possible Hawkeye film. Doctor Strange could appear if the rumors about a movie for him become true. Other commonly associated members without ties to the continuity already could appear as well, such as Ms. Marvel, Black Panther, and Vision.
- Wendell Vaughn is already confirmed as a SHIELD agent. Quasar, anyone?
- Would be pretty cool to see that there are already established supers other than Hawkeye and Black Widow as Avengers members, but it seems unlikely to me that it would happen that way, as I doubt Fury and Romanov wouldn't have called in backup when the Hammeroids went on their rampage.
- Sadly, Jossed. While we do see the Chitauri and Thanos, we do not see new heroes. Ant-Man is confirmed to have a movie in production, and has been stated by producer Kevin Feige to have been the "friend with experience with SHIELD" that Selvig spoke of in Thor, though.
- Beast will join the team, but only for a short while before returning to Xavier's school.
- Sadly, this one is Screwed by the Lawyers. Marvel does not currently own the film rights to the X-Men.
- They do, however, have the rights to the Avengers, and Beast has been both. The fact that Quicksilver is confirmed for both the next X-Men movie and the next Avengers movie, the possibility that Beast might show up later still exists. Apparently there is a loophole in the rights that allows this sort of thing, just so long as the MCU doesn't use the M-word.
The Avengers will fight the Hulk as soon as the team forms
And then, at the climax of the movie, after a bit of coaxing/apologizing, Hulk will team up with the Avengers to pull a big damn heroes moment.
Confirmed, but Hulk is fought from a combination of stress from a sudden attack and influence from Loki. He's fought only by Thor and briefly an fighter jet, while Black Widow just runs like heck from him.
- Even better. Picture this. Bruce goes to a city as the hulk apparently able to control it. Of course, the Hulk Cooldown Hug corollary takes effect somehow and he rampages. Tony Stark Steps in and manages to hold the hulk off. Meanwhile, at shield headquarters cap has just been unfrozen. He sees a news report and is concerned. Fury tells him that they are working on something and that they need a few more minutes. Cap asks if the guy in the suit can last that long. Cut back to the fight. Iron <an starts losing, and just as he's about to be finished, a shield flies in and hits him on the head. Captain America has arrived. They fight and...continue to get their asses kicked. Suddenly, Nick and Black widow drive up. nick throws a device at The hulks feet. Stark asks what it is. Fury says "A signal". Then a beam of light hits the ground. It's the mighty Thor. Thor fights hulk and beats him into submission. He reverts to Banner. Later, banner is in a holding cell and the team if fighting the main villains. They're losing. Banner says to Coulson that they need to let him out, that the hulk can help. Coulson says he can't take the risk. Banner gets angry, but calms himself down and closes his eyes. Then opens them with green irises and says "you don't have a choice"
- Or: The Avengers pick up just where The Incredible Hulk left, in the cottage where Banner turns into the Hulk voluntarily. SHIELD picks up this in some way or another, and send in Iron Man. At some point, Thor arrives, and takes out the hulk. Then, all three return to the Helicarrier. This is even supported by the Avengers teaser: Stark telling Thor that the latter has a "nice swing", followed by a flashback of Thor throwing his hammer at something in a forest.
War Machine was unable to be involved in the final battle of The Avengers
due to the World Security Council.
Rhodes in his War Machine armor would probably have wanted to help out in the battle in New York, but Rhodes works as a member of the Air Force, which is probably more inclined to listen to the World Security Council, who felt that superhero involvement wouldn't change anything, than SHIELD. Having a second Iron Man around could really have helped the Avengers' efforts against Loki's alien forces, but the World Security Council messed things up once again.
- Or alternatively, he could simply not have gotten their in time to help. Starktech armor is fast, but if he is based out in California, it'd take him an hour or two to get to NYC, even if he left the moment the invasion started.
- Jossed - The Iron Man 3 Prelude comic explains his absence with Rhodes investigating the Ten Rings in Asia. He eventually arrived at NY but by then battle was over and the Avengers were enjoying some shawarma.
Magic, Science, and Technology
Was the same as the Tesseract in Captain America and the casket in Thor
- Much more likely, its vibranium, the same element used to make Cap's shield. It doesn't need to be a power source. It just needs to be a better and more durable catalyst than palladium. Which seeing as it absorbs energy. . .
- According to the prequel comics at least, Tony wants to name the new element Badassium.
- The novelization states that the element is in fact Vibranium. Also, the Tesseract has no implications made that it has the same capabilities as the Casket of Ancient Winters. The Tesseract is a power source of likely unlimited potential, yes, but the Casket's freezing potential is completely different.
- More WMG: Vibranium also acts as low-level Reality Warper; means, they do everything what people wield them wants to do. That will explain everything from Cap's shield Nigh-Invulnerability to why Stark's Arc Reactor is jumpstarted again when Hulk is shouting. This also means that when you believed hard enough, you can do anything. Including, if somehow Hulk brings his forces to fight Thanos at Avengers 3, Captain can assert his authorities by having them punching his shield and making all of them writhing in pain over broken knuckle while Cap only got dislocated shoulder... after having 5 of them hitting him in succession. Which he sets by himself.
The Satan's Claw will appear
As HYDRA survived into the modern day, it's leader Baron Wolfgang von Strucker (Who was around back in World War II
)'s left arm is replaced with a nasty red, demonic-looking thing that can suck the age out of someone and replenish the user's called the Satan's Claw. Seeing how in the trailer, those goons around Loki looked like new-age HYDRA soldiers, either the Red Skull did die and his former Lieutenant took over, and found the Claw somewhere and has kept himself alive with it, or the Red Skull
did live, found the Claw somewhere in Asgard, and got back control of HYDRA.
The Arc reactor was an attempt to reproduce the Cosmic Cube's energy-generating capability with Earth technology
Taken more or less straight from Captain America: The First Avenger
: the 'Tesseract' could produce a lot of energy, enough to solve a lot of problems but it does have two major drawbacks: there is only one, so whoever controls it would be in a position where they might even fall into authoritarianism inadvertently, to say nothing of deliberately, and the thing is based on unknown principles - what if it just stops working one day? But if some measure of that energy-generation could be reproduced, not only would humanity be a bit closer to understanding the principles behind it, but the monopoly problem would also be averted. Thus, studying the Cube leading to Arc reactors that, while impractical with then-modern technology, could be made a bit closer to the ideal with the technology of the MCU's 21th century...
The Infinity Stones
Obviously, they're different in this continuation. So...
- The Tesseract is either the Mind stone or the Space stone, since it can do both (bets on the Mind stone, since that was blue as well).
- No, it just opened portals. Loki's spear controlled minds. My guess, Fury only thought the spear was powered by the cude, because they both give off the same cosmic energy.
- The Aether is the Reality stone, as Malekith tried to use it to change reality.
- It could also be the Power stone, since it gave him far greater power and glowed red.
- Well, Kevin has confirmed that the Tesseract is the Space Stone according to Crave Online (though personally, I expected it to be the Power Stone, with how people keep using it as a battery. Oh well.) and the Aether is the Reality Stone. That leaves four. One will factor into Got Gas a McGuffin. Normally, I'd call Space, but since that is taken it's probabely Mind, Power, or (less likely, though potentially interesting) Time. (I read somewhere that, whatever it is, it'll factor into Ao U too.) The Eye of Agmotto seems like a likely candidate, almost certainly Soul. Then, if Got G doesn;t use it, I guess the Mists in Inhumans will be the Power Stone. (Although, didn't Odin say the other "stones" were solid? Maybe the Mists work like a sauna, the coals are the Stone? Y'know, like that episode of Smallville where a coach gains pyrokinesis from a kryptonite sauna.) That leaves Time, assuming it isn't used in Got G. The simplest way to introduce it would be through Kang, but I don't see him turning up before Avengers 3. Maybe it would be the subject being heisted in Any-Man. Probabely not, I suppose it could be one which Thanos gains at the beggining of Avengers 3 or whatever the Infinity Gauntlet movie is. Hoo, well that's my theory!
- My guesses on what the Infinity Stones are: 1. Tesseract is the Space Gem. Initially I thought it was the Power Gem until you realize that it's really an inefficient, roundabout source of power. It was also used to bridge space in the Avengers movie. Hawkeye's comment about the Tesseract pulling energy from deep space also lends itself to that fact. When the Red Skull picked it up, it seemed to just transport him rather than empower him in any way. The Bifrost might have been based on study of the Tesseract, and it also bends space. 2. The Aether is the Power Gem simply based on Thor's taunt about "For all that power, I expected you to hit harder." If it was the reality gem, I would be expecting more chaotic changes to reality when it was used. It seemed to express itself simply as waves of force instead. That, and its red. 3. The Mind Gem was already seem as the gem on Loki's staff. It took control of people's minds, and could shoot telekinetic beams. 4. The Time Gem will be featured in Age of Ultron and will be used to transport the Avengers to the Dark Future. The rest may already be on the Infinity Gauntlet in the Asguard.
- The Soul gem could be one of Dr. Strange's artifacts.
- Let's not let the color of the artifacts be too big of a deciding factor here, since this picture◊ of the Gauntlet shows 2 blue gems and a white gem, so it looks like they won't all be the same color as the comics.
- If they ever get around to making that Runaways film they've been talking about, the Pride could have control of the Soul Gem or the Power Gem. Their evil scheme involves stealing souls, and their backstory involves receiving a massive power boost from an outside source. I'm not sure there's a corresponding artifact that could fit, but they could just make one up like the Aether.
- More like Wishful Thinking than Wild Mass Guessing, but...the Days of Future Past movie shares a character with the Age of Ultron movie (yeah yeah, I know, a different actor, just hear me out). Days of Future Past obviously involves time travel. The previous X-Men movies were pretty solidly NOT in the current MCU, so if, theoretically, they wanted to insert it into the current MCU, they would have to retroactively change the X-Men continuity. So, in the events of Days of Future Past, the effects of the time travel change the X-Men movie history in such a way that it places it in the new MCU. And how do they achieve the time travel in the first place? With the help of a mysterious cosmic object that allows them to control time, ie, the Time Gem. Scarlet Witch is in Age of Ultron, but not Days of Future Past, so maybe she doesn't exist in the current X-Men continuity, because in the current X-Men continuity, Magneto begets Quicksilver with a different mother. The time travel means that for whatever reason, he doesn't meet that woman, but another one, who ends up giving birth to twins instead of a single baby boy, hence the change in actor. Quicksilver looks different between the two movies because, technically, due to time travel, he is a different person.
- If this happened my life would be made. Yep.
- Ant-Man is supposed to be a heist film, so the thing they're stealing could be one of the gems.
- Seems a bit unlikely, since that would put two Gems on earth and Ant-Man seems to be pretty Earth-centric.
- In the new trailer for Guiardians Of The Galaxy, Star Lord looks to be stealing something pretty important...
- Now that the Mandarin is confirmed to exist in the MCU, what are the possibilities that his rings are one of the stones? We've already established that the stones aren't strictly solid/whole, or they could be forged from one of the stones.
- As of Guardians of the Galaxy, the Infinity Gems so far:
- The Space Gem: The Tesseract - Can open portals and teleport beings to other realms.
- The Reality Gem: The Aether - Under the right circumstances can unravel all of reality.
- The Power Gem: The Orb - Vastly enhances the strength and powers of beings that aren't destroyed by it possessing them.
- The Mind Gem: Unrevealed, possibly the gem on Loki's staff? (The Avengers: Infinity War announcement trailer confirms this).
- The Time Gem: Unrevealed.
- The Soul Gem: Unrevealed.
- Something to note thus far is that all of the infinity gems seem to be capable of generating large amounts of energy and granting power to their wielders, thus "enhancing strength" is something not unique to the Power Gem (though it probably does it better and/or grants more power than the others).
- Well, there's probably a good explanation. Where the Tesseract is concerned, someone (can't remember who) explicitly mentions "energy from space" (quantum physics- how do they work?), which needed to be mechanically harnessed for any practical purpose, so that's keeping with a theme. Meanwhile the Aether seems to just rewrite the rules of what matter is, while the Orb just gives off a whole bunch of destructive energy. (Or the writers didn't expect a big epic with all the Gems, so didn't consider giving each unique characteristics. Nah, definitely the other thing).
The Time Stone was/will be used to create the Inhumans.
Just as the Space Gem and Cosmic Cube were merged into the Tesseract, the Time Gem will be merged with an artifact used by the Kree known as the Forever Crystal. This artifact was used by the Supreme Intelligence to help "evolve" the genetically stagnated Kree race. I don't think it's a coincidence that the two films coming out between the two Infinity War films are Captain Marvel and the Inhumans: both stories require the Kree to be major players. I fully expect the Kree to be important in Infinity War as well. What if the Time Stone was an artifact used by the Celestials to tamper with the natural selection of various races by speeding up, slowing down, or even reversing and restarting their evolution? What if they'd used it on many planets, deliberately guiding various lifeforms to become the humanoids we see on so many worlds? And what if The Time Stone (or Forever Crystal, or whatever they end up calling it) ended up with the Kree, who figured out how it works (mostly) and experimented with it, leading to the creation of the Terrigen Mists and, ultimately, the Inhumans? I'm toying with the idea that it's actually the Time Stone that led to the creation of Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, too... Their powers even seem kind of time-based to me, if SW can see the future and maybe QS moves quickly by speeding up time around himself.
A prediction, then: The Time Stone is currently on Attilan, the Inhuman headquarters on the Moon. During Infinity War: Part One, Thanos joins forces with (or just conquers) the Kree Empire and leads a huge army of Chitauri, Kree, and others across the galaxy, seizing the stones from Asgard, Xandar, and elsewhere even as the Guardians and Avengers try to stop him. Ultimately, this culminates in Thanos and his army's arrival in Earth's orbit, either at the end of that film or in Captain Marvel or Inhumans. He's already the most powerful being in the universe, and now he's going to get the last stone, destroying Attilan in the process and leading to a final showdown, on and around Earth, with a fully Gauntleted Thanos in Infinity War: Part Two.
The real Mandarin has the Mind Gem.
The Mind Gem gives the user psionic powers. In the comics, the Mandarin's left ring finger has a ring that allows him to use mind control. The diamond-shaped gem in the ring is blue, just like the Mind Gem in the comics.
- Jossed, possibly. Loki's staff may contain the Mind Gem, but that doesn't mean the Mandarin can't get his hands on it at some point.
Asgard's lack of communications technology
Though Asgardians are Sufficiently Advanced
Aliens, they don't seem to have long-distance communications tech similar to Earth (Cell phones, Internet, etc). For example, when Heimdall summons Sif and the Warriors Three in Thor
, he sends messengers rather than calling them on a phone-like device. This method of communication is less efficient but also less vulnerable to hackers or wire-tapping. It's possible that Asgard may have invented long-distance communication in the past but Odin or a previous ruler banned it.
after The Events of Captain America: The Winter Soldier Fury will start using LMD's for both him and some of his highest operatives.
- LMD's are 'Life Model Decoy's, essentially robotic [[film/Avatar Avatars]].
The Enchantress is going to be the main villian of Thor 2.
An article said that Loki isn't going to be the main villain of the sequel, so the main villain has to be The Enchantress, and maybe she will get in the way of Thor and Jane's relationship.
- Jossed. It's going to be Malekeith and Loki will appear (apparently skirting the edge of the Moral Event Horizon) but no Enchantress.
The other Captains America exists in this continuity, and Steve has met them
The surviving ones, at least. First he encountered Jeffrey Mace and was told of William Nasland. Then Coulson made a first attempt at talking with Cap and mentioned 'the other Steve Rogers' and 'the Black Captain America', and Fury had to tell him about the other experiments with the Super Soldier Serum, show him what had happened to the '50s Steve Rogers (who was in cryogenic sleep) and let him meet Isaiah Bradley. That's why he was pissed when Fury went to enlist him to deal with Loki: he was furious at the fate of the other Rogers and the fact almost nobody knew of Bradley's courage.
The Invaders exists in this continuity but have a different line-up
Obviously Captain America and Bucky aren't part of the group, as one of the Union Jack. On the other hand they still existed led by Namor, and mainly fought the Master Man (created by the Nazi with another experiment with their Super Serum, and prompting Hitler to exile Schmidt because the Master Man was not deformed).
Also, Namor met Cap at least once, and the Invaders and the Howling Commandos teamed up for at least one mission, and raided Auschwitz with a certain Jewish mutant with magnetic powers using the chaos to run away.
The villains of Captain America 2 will be the Grand Director and the Communist Red Skull
We saw in The Incredible Hulk
that the US made at least one attempt at recreating the Super Soldier Serum, and Ross almost expected Blonsky to go crazy at a moment's notice: they could have the precedent of the 50s' Captain America, the Rogers' imitator who dosed himself with Super Soldier Serum and went mad, got frozen for it and was brainwashed into becoming the Grand Director after being unfrozen.
The Communist Red Skull would be the Grand Director to show that you don't have to be a Nazi to be really evil, have Cap laugh in someone's face (seriously, for someone who fought the original seeing a communist
Red Skull imitator would be really
hilarious), and give an excuse for the appearance of the Winter Soldier, sent to terminate the crazed spymaster who started dressing up as the Red Skull.
- Jossed. The villains were The Winter Soldier, Batroc the Leaper, Crossbones and HYDRA.
Jane Foster is the daughter of Bill Foster aka Goliath.
Because Selvig stated in Thor that he worked with her father, which establishes him as some sort of scientist, and this franchise is notorious for its lack of coincidences.
- This seems unlikely. Jane Foster doesn't look even the slightest bit mixed race, and I am really doubtful they would white wash Bill Foster.
- She could be a beloved stepdaughter who took his name or adopted.
A future movie subplot will involve an astral projected Doctor Strange giving help through Doctor Banner
In main stream Comic continuity, Hulk can see the Astral form of Doctor Strange. (I don't know if Banner can either, but it would make sense to tweak it for the movie to the Banner side also seeing it.) Doctor Strange gets trapped somehow and he spends the movie giving advice to Banner in order to have Banner reunite Doctor Strange and his body, along with stopping a threat.
The twist is, no one else can see Doctor Strange, including the audience. Everyone will wonder if Banner has finally lost it until he does something, it works, and Doctor Strange truly appears.
Thanos won't fight the Avengers in Avengers 2 but the Masters of Evil will
- Thanos will gather the Masters of Evil to test the Avengers. After they are beaten he will decide to personally go to Earth.
Sigyn will appear at some point.
She's become rather popular as of late, and if Marvel does choose to send Loki on a redemption arc, she could play a major part in it. Most likely she'll be adapted to compete with the other female badasses
, either remaining as a Goddess, or adapted into a SHIELD agent
. Heck, she could even become a Badass Bystander
. As for actresses who could play her:
- Emilie de Ravin. She's already playing a strong female character trying to redeem the man she loves. The role would fit.
- Jessy Schram. She has an innocent face which would fit the role, and looks a little bit like Sigyn from Norse Mythology.
- Mia Wasikowska. If Marvel decide to go for a younger Sigyn.
- Jennifer Morrison. If they want a Sigyn with a silver tongue of her own, and can slam-dunk Loki's into led.
Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch.
They've been near enough confirmed for the Avengers 2, unless the script changes. So, time for character motivation speculation and casting possibilities.
- The siblings, like in the comic, could start out as villains working for Thanos, or part of the Masters of Evil. They then, for some reason or another, pull a Heel-Face Turn in time for the final battle. Redemption Equals Death could come into play, and one of them or both of them could die.
- Casting choices:
- Quicksilver: Jeremy Sumpter, Max Greenfield, Tom Felton.
- Scarlet Witch: Rachel Hurd-Wood, Alexandra Daddario, Rachel Mc Adams.
- This article says that Marvel is looking for actors in their 20s, preferably of British descent; someone edgy for Quicksilver and someone spell-check defying for Scarlet Witch. Saoirse Ronan was mentioned as a choice for the latter. (And out of the choices mentioned already, we have left Tom Felton and Rachel Hurd-Wood fitting the "20's" and "British" descriptions)
- Rights issues with the X-Men films mean that while they can be used in the MCU, they can't be identified as mutants. Instead, they'll be re-imagined as magic-users. Wanda already is one, and it can help tie-in to the planned Doctor Strange movie. You'd be amazed how complicated some of the rights issues over certain characters have gotten. 20th Century Fox still owns he film rights to X-men which means they automatically own the film rights to any mutant character from the Marvel Comics, even those that are more widely associated with other series. Versions of the characters are going to appear in X-Men: Days of Future Past, played by different actors and totally thematically unrelated to the ones that are going to appear in the MCU; casual viewers might not even recognize them as based on the same characters. In fact there's legal back and forth over which side could use their code names and which ones could use their real names. It's possible they will show up in one of the franchises not as Quick Silver and Scarlet Witch but only identified as Wanda and Peitro Maximoff. Namor was in the middle of the same sort of legal battle because he started in his own stand alone comic series way back before the X-Men were thought of but it was retconned into being a mutant. In short, lawyers have to argue comic book canon complete with retcons in courts of law.
- Both characters have officially confirmed for The Avengers: Age of Ultron. Scarlet Witch will be played by Elizabeth Olsen, and Quicksilver will be played by Aaron Taylor-Johnson.
If they ever get around to introducing The Wasp
, she'll be half-Asian
Like in Ultimate Marvel
. Specifically because of the "lack of diversity" criticisms the MCU has been getting.
Janet Van Dyne will have a daughter who will be the new Wasp to Scott Lang's Ant Man.
It's been established that the MCU's Hank Pym will be an older mentor figure to the present-day Ant Man, Scott Lang. Considering the comicbook Ant Man's most infamous moment
, it's possible that Janet left Hank and had a daughter with someone else. She then handed down her abilities or equipment
(depending on whether Wasp's powers are biological or technological in the MCU) to her daughter.
- Janet's daughter might be Petra Laskov a.k.a. Red Wasp.
- Or the new Wasp could be a half-Asian woman like the Ultimate version of Janet.
- Janet having a daughter is confirmed; Evangeline Lilly will be playing Hope Pym.
SWORD will be formed in response to the Chitauri invasion and will build up Earth's defenses against alien threats. One of these defenses will be a fleet of starfighters flown by the world's best Air Force pilots.
- SWORD is apparently tied up in the rights for X-Men, so it's prboably unusable. The resto fthe guess can still work, though.
Marvel will produce a Squadron Supreme movie before Warner Brother can release a Justice League film.
- It'd be a dick move, but you have to admit it'd be funny.
- It'd also probably be a better Justice League film than whatever Zack Snyder comes up with.
Marvel will produce a secondary, Darker and Edgier
Netflix project consisting of Ghost Rider, Blade, The Punisher, and Moon Knight as the Spirits of Vengeance.
The former three characters are now owned by Marvel again, and are motivated by the loss of someone in their lives. Johnny Blaze for his father, Blade for his mother, and Punisher for his family. If you want to fit Moon Knight in the mix, part of his motivation could be avenging himself
Stephen Strange will make an appearance, either in his own movie or as a cameo
Since The Winter Soldier
made a point of name-dropping him when HYDRA mole Agent Sitwell was rattling off a list of threats to be neutralized under Project Insight.
In Thor 3, Amora the Enchantress will make her appearance.
Lorelei, her younger sister, has already made her debut in Agents Of SHIELD
. The plot could center around the effect Odin's/Loki's misrule is having on the World Tree, and Ragnarok being unleashed earlier than anticipated. Amora can serve as Loki's Dragon, or even a Dragon with an Agenda, since she's canonically obsessed with Thor.
There's also the fact that she's one of Thor's most famous adversaries and has already featured in Avengers: EMH.
Also, she'll be played by Natalie Dormer, because 1) Natalie Dormer can play scheming women with just enough nuance and humanity to keep them from being one-note (see: Margaery Tyrell and Jamie Moriarty/Irene Adler
), and 2) It'll make her brief appearance in the first Captain America movie less of a cheeky wink to the audience and more of a very brilliant piece of foreshadowing.
Marvel will create a movie about the Thunderbolts
With SHIELD presumably dissolved
after the events of Captain America: The Winter Soldier
and all signs pointing to the Avengers seemingly becoming self-sufficient in Age of Ultron, the government will probably feel like it needs its own group of superhumans to not only protect American interests from superhuman threats, but also deal with shadier missions that traditional heroes wouldn't want to touch. To solve this, the government could put together the Thunderbolts, a team of villains to be used as the government's answer to the Avengers, promising the villains benefits in exchange for their service, and even threatening them into complying. They could recruit previous villains such as Abomination, Crossbones, and Justin Hammer (maybe even with his own suit of armor!), and even some villains we haven't seen, such as Moonstone or the Leader (who was hinted at in The Incredible Hulk
but never shown). Songbird could be a superpowered government operative put in charge as their handler, and while she would try her best to control them, things of course would have to go horribly wrong. Bonus points if the villains, in an attempt at an uprising, reference actual super villain teams (Hammer: "They don't trust us. They call us 'evil.' Well let's show them evil! We'll be masters of evil!")
- The idea could be introduced in The Stinger of a future movie. We would see some government people discussing whether the Avengers could be trusted, since they were assembled by SHIELD, and SHIELD was being controlled by HYDRA. Then a man proposes Thunderbolts as a replacement for the Avengers. Someone turns to the man: "And who would you be?" "Oh, sorry. My name is Zemo."
Patrick Wilson will play a younger Hank Pym in the 60's-70's
There will be a Runaways
direct-to-Netflx series, coming out after Avengers 2
There was talk of a Runaways movie, but it's been in Development Hell
for years. A series/miniseries could perhaps be decompressed enough to be a fairly faithful adaption of the original comic miniseries, and/or could help with nabbing the teen demographic. However, first, they would probably need to introduce magic (via Docotr Strange) & whatever they will call mutants
(Via Scarlet Witch & Quicksilver), before they incorporate them into Nico & Molly, respectively. Which is why they would have to wait for Avengers 2 and the Doctor Strange movie for them to release it.
The Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are Von Strucker's children.
Well, he does have a pair of twin mutant kids in the comics...
Adam Warlock will join the Guardians of the Galaxy by it's sequel.
His cocoon appears in the Collector's room in Thor 2
and Guardians of the Galaxy
. The Guardians' post credits scene shows that it hatched at some point. Adam was a founding member of the Guardians in the comics.
- Perhaps Magus will be the villain of Guardians of the Galaxy 2. This could introduce both the Time Gem (because the plot would involve travelers from the future) and the Soul Gem (Kind of Warlock's signature) at the same time.
After Agents of SHIELD comes to a close, there will be a second TV series which will feature either the New Warriors, Nextwave, or Avengers Academy
Basically the next generation of heroes is what I'm getting at. And it will be done like a reality show, with each of the young heroes doing individual confessionals/ keeping logs for SHIELD.
The X-Men will appear
In their own show, because Marvel owns the TV rights.
Ego the Living Planet will appear.
As an expy to Galactus, who Marvel doesn't have the film rights to.
Black Panther's story arc.
When they announced their Phase Three lineup, Marvel all but confirmed that Andy Serkis's character in Avengers Age Of Ultron
will be Black Panther villain Ulysses Klaw, and we've known before that part of the movie will take place in Wakanda and that Ultron's final body will be made of vibranium
, the metal Klaw specializes in. I believe his role in the movie will be that to create his vibranium body, Ultron finds Klaw and enlists his help. The two then go to Wakanda to seize the vibranium, but King T'Chaka tries to stop them, but is killed by them, with T'Challa watching. After Ultron's new body is completed, Klaw takes the leftover vibranium and leaves, with Ultron leaving him to his own devices. The Stinger
of the movie will be T'Challa donning the Black Panther suit and swearing to take revenge on Klaw now that Ultron is (presumably) out of the picture.
In Captain America: Civil War
Tony Stark finds Klaw and recruits him under the Superhuman Registration Act to make vibranium weapons for use against the anti-Registration heroes, which will result in T'Challa joining Cap's side in the conflict, but Klaw escapes in the fallout of the film's final battle, leading into the Black Panther movie, where he'll be The Dragon
to another Black Panther villain like Man-Ape or Killraven.
Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch's father in this continuity is Maximus the Mad.
There were rumors of them being potrayed as Inhumans rather than Mutants, and having Maximus as their father would allow them to still be depicted as the children of a supervillain.
The Mandarin will appear in future films.
And not Trevor Slattery from Iron Man 3. Fans were outraged over the Mandarin's role in that film, there was no actual usage of the ten rings; which were set up in Iron Man. As of the Marvel short 'All Hail the King' which shows Slattery being abducted from prison by a (Real) Mandarin's Agent, we know that the real Mandarin exists in Earth-199,999 (The MCU universe).
- Iron Man 4 is the main place he could be used.
- Possibly, and bear with me for this, GOTG 2 or 3. To tie in with the Cosmic origins of the Makluan Rings.
There could be a Marvel vs. Capcom movie
The Cosmic Cube does
have the power to reshape reality, so somebody could end up accidentally causing the two worlds to merge…and the Avengers might bump into DANTE!!
Thor will use Mjölnir to help Tony forge something.
Odin once remarked that Mjölnir could be used to build as well as destroy. Which Avenger has experience forging and building things? I foresee an epic Forging Scene
where Tony and Thor at some critical point need to build something that requires the might of Mjölnir!
- Something like this?
- They got caught in the mother of all cluster-fucks. The Curbstomp Battle they and only they managed to survive changed their lives.
- Ross decides that it can never happen again, and that the US gaining super-soldiers would help prevent such a pasting from happening again.
- Fury looses his eye, decides it can never happen again, and joins SHIELD to stop wars from ever happening.
- Castle realizes that no matter how ugly it gets, he'll always love war. He realized that he loves war, and decides to go home and be with his family before he jumps off the slippery slope.
Jim Rhodes and/or Bruce Banner will be played by a different actor in each film appearance.
They'll turn The Other Darrin
into a Running Gag
for the audience's benefit.
- Jossed with Bruce Banner, as Mark Ruffalo recently signing a six-picture deal as Bruce Banner/The Hulk.
- And Cheadle will be returning as War Machine for Iron Man 3
Spider-Man, The X-Men and the Fantastic Four all have a really
good reason for not being in The Avengers
- Spider-Man was in another state photographing for JJ.
- Never mind the fact that it was another 2 months before he got his powers.
- The X-Men were too far away to get to Manhattan in time.
- Unlikely since in the films they're based in Westchester, New York. With the jet it wouldn't take long to get there. Maybe they were at Genosha?
- The Fantastic Four were having a field trip to the Earth's core that day.
Tony was stalling to get his ultimate weapon from L.A.
The name of the weapon? Squirrel Girl
but they defeated the invasion before she and War Machine could arrive…
- She did first appear trying to be his sidekick...
was killed by Heimdall
Having apparently been Bifrost-teleported, Red Skull
may have ended at Asgard. Asgard's end of Bifrost is before Heimdall, who is black. Nothing easier than Red Skull
tried to order him around and attacked him after being ignored or told to wait for the authorities, and Heimdall punched his head off.
- Alternatively Loki and Thor were there due to chance or having nothing better to do, and tried to explain him that Heimdall was not a servant. Then Red Skull, knowing the Viking legends, accused Loki of lying and called him a frost giant, and Thor hammered him for the insult to his brother.
- Unless he didn't end up in Asgard at all...
The Dark World in Thor 2 will be the Dark Dimension.
- And if that's the case, we might see Dormammu.
The Dark World in Thor 2 will be Swartalfheim.
- And the main villain? Makekith.
Combining the previous two theories, Dormammu will be Malekith's Thanos.
The Guardians of the Galaxy will die in their solo film.
This will establish Thanos as an even more dangerous enemy.
- Probably not, since it's kind of a comedy film. Plus if they kill them, they can't have the Avengers team up with them later.
- Mostly Jossed. Groot dies, but is implied to be able to regenerate,
The Red Skull might return in the second Captain America movie
It is implied he ended up in Asgard, assumeing he wasn't killed.
There Odin would have met with him and somehow know of the chaos he caused on earth, seeing darkness in his heart, he knew he was to dangerous to send back to Earth, so they imprisoned him in Asgard. Since Thanos
is rumored to show up in The Stinger
, attempting to steal the infinite gauntlet
. The Red Skull would have been driven crazy being imprisoned for so long, crazy enouth to work for Thanos
would see all the death the Red Skull caused and agrees to set him free on earth.
- Red Skull does not show up, but HYDRA does.
The Stinger for THOR: The Dark World.
So here is what I am hoping happens in the stinger for Thor 2. Loki's latest nefariousness lands him in a small room in Asgard bound by the stocks and the same muzzle he had at the end of The Avengers with two guards looking over him. The camera is facing Loki to the guards backs and all of a sudden a swooshing sound is heard and a green light emanates from just behind the camera. The guards turn around only to get a pair of green energy blasts to the chest sending them flying against the wall on the other side of the cell. A third blast hits the door behind Loki sealing it as banging noises are heard from the other side (presumably more guards). The camera then zooms in on Loki's face and a small green laser begins cutting off the muzzle with great precision as a deep off-screen voice says "Loki my dear Jotun friend it seems your lone attempts at mischief have all failed miserably." The muzzle then falls to the floor and the voice continues "I come to offer you a degree of... camaraderie." Loki then asks in a very suspicious and slightly spiteful tone "And who are you supposed to be exactly?" The camera then pans around to just behind Loki's head and we see a green cape and boots made of cast Iron. The figure then kneels down revealing a green tunic and hood over a full suit of powered armor also seemingly made from cast iron and looks Loki in the eye revealing a very intimidating metal face mask with visible eyes and a Death Glare
. The figure then says "I. AM. DOOM
." Cut to black.
Captain America will do a Power Walk
Which will mirror their confrontation in the Infinity Gauntlet saga. Calling it now. Because.
- Additionally, we'll get a callback to Cap's first movie as he endures Thanos's beatdown and tells his foe, "I can do this all day", then getting his second wind.
The films have been hinting how to create a Bifrost.
Whenever the Bifrost in Thor
was activated, it was by a weapon being used as the machine's "key". That weapon could be either Heimdall's sword or Odin's Gungnir. Now, in Captain America
, Cap and the Red Skull accidentally create a Bifrost effect when Cap's shield strikes the reactor containing the Tesseract. What do we know about Cap's shield? It's made out of Vibranium. Perhaps that is also what Heimdall and Odin's weapons are made out of.If that's the case... then perhaps with a little ingenuity, Tony and Cap might be able to recreate the Bifrost!
- A SHIELD attempt to recreate the Bifrost effect in the Florida everglades leads to a disruption of the nexus of all realities... thus prompting Man-Thing and Howard the Duck movies.
In Guardians of the Galaxy the Chitauri will be the villains.
- The Chitauri will still be working with Thanos and the Guardians may be formed to deal with this threat.
- Jossed. Ronan The Accuser is the main villian of .
The Guardians of the Galaxy and the Avengers will eventually team up
Thor 2 will involve a plan to steal the Infinity Gauntlet.
- The Gauntlet is in Odin's Vault, Thanos or Malekith may make an attempt to steal it. Probably not Malekith but Loki may be involved. Or the attempt may happen in the Stinger. It would look good if it ends with Thanos gaining the Gauntlet.
- Perhaps when Loki is released he does this secretly, acting on orders from Thanos.
- Sort of confirmed. The Stinger to Thor 2 shows the Aether being taken to The Collector for safekeeping, and both it and the Tesseract are confirmed to be Infinity Gems. At the very end after the Asgardians have left, The Collector says to himself, "One down, five to go."
The reason all the Chitauri die when the mothership is destroyed.
- They were dead and being artificially animtated and controlled by cybernetic implants powered by something on the ship. This would also explain the lack of shape-shifting, as it would be too difficult to manipulate remotely.
Phil Coulson has a identical twin brother.
That's who Clark Gregg will portray in any future MCU endeavors.
- Jossed. A back-from-the-dead Phil Coulson will appear in the upcoming Agents Of SHIELD TV series.
It will develop Hulk as a character alongside Banner, rather than just the gamma-bullet in Banner's gun. The Avengers 3 will use World War Hulk
as it's main inspiration, and it will be revealed that Thanos was behind the whole thing, the final straw in a long series of build ups for him as the main villain of Avengers 4, which will be a crossover with Guardians of the Galaxy.
- Captain America: Winter Soldier - If Alexander Lukin appears, he will unmask to reveal himself as Red Skull. Otherwise, Crossbones will reveal he is working for Red Skull.
- Alternatively, a stinger where we learn that the Red Skull is posing as a high-ranking member of the World Security Council and was also behind Bucky's brainwashing into Winter Soldier.
- Nothing involving the Red Skull, although HYDRA was the main villain and they did infiltrate SHIELD but they're in the process of being taken down at the end. The actual stingers are one revealing Baron von Strucker is still out there, and he has Loki's staff and Pietro and Wanda, and one showing the former Winter Soldier in civilian disguise visiting the Captain America exhibit at the Smithsonian and looking at the exhibit about Bucky Barnes, showing that he may be starting to regain his memories or at least accepting that he is Bucky.
- Guardians of the Galaxy - Thanos finally heading to Earth to begin his planned conquest, directly leading into the Avengers sequel.
- Iron Man 3 - Zeke Stane visiting his father's grave and swearing to avenge him. Or something featuring Ghost.
- Jossed. The stinger for the film features Tony Stark discussing his traumas and emotional issues with Bruce Banner, as if the good doctor was a psychiatrist.
- Thor: The Dark World - something featuring Surtur. Or, if Loki dies in the movie, something featuring Kid Loki.
- Or, considering they seem to be going down a humorous route with the Phase 2 stingers, Thor could introduce Loki to shawarma, since he missed out in The Avengers. As to how they're on Earth, they could be taking Jane back after their little adventure. The scene will consist of Thor stuffing his face and Loki face-palming throughout, both still dressed in their Asgardian armor while everyone around them stares. Of course, this won't happen if Loki ends up betraying Thor...
- Jossed. Like Avengers there are a serious and a lighthearted stinger, the first one leading into Guardians of the Galaxy by having the Collector receive the inert Aether (as it's revealed that it and the Tesseract are Infinity Gems and the second one having Thor return to visit Jane, then showing the Jotunheim beast chasing birds in London.
- Ant-Man - The movie will start with Henry Pym working on something that would acronym to 'ULTRON', before being forced to leave the lab because of something. In The Stinger, he will return to his lab and discover that everything connected to the project is missing. Then it would flash back to the scene of him leaving, showing Ultron awakening moments after he left.
- Probably not going to happen unless it's a prequel to the MCU, given that we now know Avengers 2 is going to have Ultron as its Big Bad.
- Also I think Tony is the one who's going to build Ultron in this verse. I suppose Hank could be trying to rebuild it or something.
- Kamala Khan will cameo in the Stinger for Captain Marvel or The Inhumans
Tony Stark will appear in Avengers 2, but not as Iron Man.
Instead, we will finally see what his work as 'the consultant' includes.
Think about it. If he won in Avengers, then he has an entire planet to rule. If he loses (which he did) he gets sent back to Asgard (since it's been already demonstrated that not even a prison cell mean to hold the Hulk can keep him out) where he has a chance to get his hands on the Infinity Gauntlet.
- It's already shown that Thor will has for his help in Thor: The Dark World, which is most likely part of his plan. He most likely knows that a war with Svartalfheim is coming.
- His goal doesn't seem to have been the Infinity Gauntlet...
Why Stark's hover car never caught on…
It was amazing technology, he invented a flying car in 1942, how could this thing never catch on? Simple, power consumption. The power it takes to lift a several ton car off the ground, let alone go anywhere at decent speeds was out of any monetary reach. Besides, it is only shown to have hovered, it did not fly. It would also need a flat surface to make sure it doesn't flip over, so it would still need roads. Also, if your tires pop, you don't suddenly jolt down a foot or two and do major damage to the car. So, it came with too few advantages for the astronomic cost of the thing over plain old wheels, so was scrapped for a later date. The day when you fit an arch reactor inside a man's chest…
If they do adapt Planet Hulk, Hulk won't be exiled.
Because so far the Hulk has been shown to be a force for good even though he's dangerous. They might not want to portray either the Hulk or Avengers in a negative light. Rather the Hulk will perform a heroic sacrifice and jump through a wormhole to shut it down. This will result in hem getting thrown through space and ending up on Saakar.
- Alternatively, it's not the Avengers that send him away. Instead it's one of the villains like General Ross or Loki who can get an army together to capture him.
If Red Hulk appears...
Extremis will be involved. It gives those who are injected with it the ability to generate intense heat, one of Red Hulk's signature abilities. So he could be created by combining the Hulk formula with Extremis.
The Hulk reboot was a sequel.
The first movie ends with Bruce in a foreign country and the reboot begins in possibly the same country, Banners conflicting origin flashbacks are imperfect memories and the film ends with him beginning to control The Hulk which ties into his willing transformation in Avengers.
If the masters of evil appear their alien contact will be...
Fin Fang Foom, who will be The Dragon
(get it ?) to Thanos.
The SSR is a precursor to at least one other organization besides SHIELD.
From what we've seen in Captain America: The First Avenger, we know the SSR was a classified organization focused on peacekeeping and advancing technology. We also know Tommy Lee Jones was a high-ranking member, they were testing soldiers to find a new recruit, and the winner was the person who completed the tests by thinking outside the box. On a separate note, we also know that aliens exist in this world. Therefore, it stands to reason that in the early 60s, members of the SSR were made aware of said extraterrestrial life and decided to split off and form a new organization to focus more fully on aliens: the Men in Black. Which means K is probably the son of Col. Phillips. Men in Black is a Marvel property, so this totally works.
Mostly to avoid the risk of rehashing Tony Stark's origin.
- If this humble one might: The viewpoint character will be someone experiencing a supernatural crisis who has to employ the Doctor. At first Strange will simply be introduced as a surgeon obsessed with the occult; the backstory will be explained in full by Strange after the viewpoint character comments on scars/how shaky his hands are.
The fact that they can't call Pietro and Wanda mutants will be lampshaded.
"How did they get their powers?" "Sorry, that information is classified."
In the Marvel Cinematic Universe S.H.I.E.L.D. Field Agents like Coulson and Sitwell gave rise to the Men In Black urban legend, and might even be that universe's equivalent.
The villain of the third Thor movie will be Surtur.
With Brad Pitt
as Captain America
, Johnny Depp
as Iron Man
, Lucy Liu
, Matthew Mcconaughey
, and Steve Buscemi
as Bruce Banner
. ...Everybody got that Mythology Gag
Third Thor movie will end with Thor's death...
...and The Stinger
will show Mjölnir falling on an alien planet and an orange hand
reaching for it.
- I don't know if it makes sense for Thor to die before/during Bill's appearance. That whole part where they realize Bill can use the hammer has more impact if Thor is there.
In Avengers 3, Ultron will be used to fight Thanos.
Towards the end of the movie, when it's been made abundantly clear that Thanos is a Walking Powerhouse
, he'll push the Godzilla Threshold
and force the Avengers to use their second deadliest adversary.
Infinity Gems only work when paired with another cosmic power source
Nick Fury says that Loki's scepter was powered by the Cube. We're all pretty sure that was the Mind Gem in that scepter. Ergo, in the MCU, 5 out of 6 gems cannot function without a power source. Except the Power Gem, which is, itself
, a power source. Ergo, when the gems are united into the Infinity Gauntlet, they work just fine.
- The Dark World throws a twist into this theory. The Cosmic Cube IS an Infinity Gem, probably the Mind Gem.
- More likely the space gem, since it was a portal-opener. In fact, it actually leads to some Fridge Brilliance: Fury only thought the spear (mind gem) was powered by the cube (space gem) because they gave off the same cosmic energy signature.
From Avengers 2 onward, Tony will be using the Modular Armor.
The Mark 42 was merely the Flawed Prototype
. Not only will the Modular armor not constantly malfunction and fall apart, but it will also have many different interchangeable parts and modules for different purposes, just like in the comics.
This WMG is based on a screen splice showing K and Coulson talking on the phone;
: I heard about New Mexico. Want me to send the boys down?
Coulson: I think we can handle this one, Dad.
The WMG is thus:
The Colonel from Captain America: The First Avenger
is K's grandfather. K himself is born later and was raised join S.H.I.E.L.D. but refuses and goes to propose to his girlfriend. Then he mets the aliens
and forms the M.I.B. It is implied in the second M.I.B movie that K is the father of the Light of Zartha so he could have had another child while working with the M.I.B. Thus Coulson is born far enough in the past to be full grown while K is still middle aged. Coulson decides to work for SHIELD instead of the M.I.B because he's a Captain America fanboy wanted to work with him if he was ever found and unfrozen. If, like the Light of Zathra, Coulson is an alien halfbreed this could also explain why he survived Loki stabbing him in Avengers.
- Jossed; according to Agents Of SHIELD, Coulson's dad died when he was young; his file calls it a defining moment in his past.
Man-Thing will appear in the MCU
A character connected to him was one of the Extremis soldiers in Iron Man 3.
- Coulson did say that a lot of people were trying to replicate the super-soldier serum. Explicitly part of Man-Thing's backstory (though you'd think the nexus of all realities would have been signifiant at that Convergence thingy in The Dark World).
- He's confirmed to exist in the MCU by a throwaway line from Hill in Agents Of Shield, so an appearance could be not that for off...
In The Dark World when an Aether-fused Malekith fought Thor he looked much like the Void, complete with the red energy claws. The Collector got the gem at the end, it's not inconceivable that he might lose it (especially given the synopsis for Guardians) and it somehow finds its way to Robert Reynolds, who either fuses with it by accident like Jane or is imbued with it as part of some immoral experiment
The Netflix series will be set during the 1970's.
Just because it fits the characters and it lets us explore a different era of the MCU.
- But then they wouldn't be able to have crossovers with all the modern-day stuff.
Norman Osborn will eventually appear as a major antagonist for both the MCU and the The Amazing Spider-Man
There were talks about using the Os Corp
tower in The Avengers, which means a crossover is definitely possible if both parties still want it. Iron Man 3 brought us the Iron Patriot armor used by Osborn in the comics, and Agents of SHIELD will introduce Victoria Hand, his assistant at several points. Maybe we are indeed heading towards a Dark Reign
storyline some time in the future.
Both have suspiciously similar effects under the skin.
Kid!Loki and Lady!Loki will have brief appearances in Thor 3 as a Mythology Gag
- Kid!Loki: Thor will miss Loki and will start looking for ways to bring him back. He will run into a kid that will remind him of Loki, but it will turn out to be just a regular kid.
- Or Loki disguises himself as a child to trick people.
- Lady!Loki: Loki will taunt Thor by taking Sif's shape, but will decide to keep his own clothes for the illusion.
Loki and the Avengers will have a rematch
Loki sits on the throne of Asgard now.
There's a good chance that gives him the Odinforce. Meaning he'll be ready to give the Avengers quite the thrashing. (Especially getting payback for Hulk's beatdown)
Big Hero 6
will be part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe
Disney will be working with Marvel Studios on it, and apparently it is based on an obscure Marvel series. And don't tell me you don't want it.
One or more of the Avengers will get beaten up by Scarlet Witch and/or Quicksilver.
- In keeping with the theme of the team fighting amongst themselves in the first movie, the Avengers will demonstrate the badassitude of Wanda and Pietro via The Worf Effect. Most likely this will be at the expense of Thor, though Iron Man and the Hulk are also contenders.
When Wasp finally shows up, she'll have a different costume in every movie
Remember who we're talking about people.
- She'll change her costumes as often as Tony Stark changes his suits.
- Forget that, she'll have different costumes in the same film she shows up in. Of course, opening up the floor for action figure variants of her many costumes.
Most people don't know that Black Widow and Hawkeye exist.
They're secret agents and SHIELD doesn't want to compromise them. As far as the general public knows, the Avengers are a four-man team.
- Neither confirmed nor jossed, but it's a moot point now. In the wake of The Winter Solider. all SHIELD secrets have become public knowledge. If they didn't know then, they definitely know now.
- Definitely Jossed. In the first scene of Agents of Shield, the Avengers toy display has a Black Widow and a Hawkeye figure in the lineup with the main 4.
Planet Hulk will be adapted, but World War Hulk will not.
Instead, Planet Hulk movie will lead into Avengers/Guardians of the Galaxy crossover where they finally fight Thanos. Due to movie!Stark being friendlier with the Hulk than comic!Stark, I doubt he would exile him to space, so Hulk would probably end up on Sakaar in a different way, which would remove revenge as Hulk's motivation, preventing World War Hulk. The line-up of Hulk's Warbound will probably be changed to include at least one member of the Guardians. Korg will be Adapted Out
to avoid people confusing him with the Thing, and one of the Guardians, probably Drax or Groot, will take his place. No-Name the Brood will also be adapted out, due to rights issues. Red King will be working for Thanos, and The Stinger
will feature Thanos preparing to bomb Sakaar in order to have revenge on Hulk.
The Other isn't an alien, he is supernatural.
In the comics, The Other was an alias used by Chthon the Elder God. While movie!Other doesn't have to be Chthon, he will be some sort of demon, and he will appear in the Doctor Strange movie.
Whomever controls the staff, controls Phil Coulson
The Cap 2 ending implies that
the Scepter had an infinity stone in it, probably Soul or Mind, and Phil Coulson was stabbed with that scepter and he died, which could have forged a link between Phil Coulson and the staff/stone. (If it's not a direct link back to Thanos) While the stone could always control people remotely, because it went straight through Phil's heart (as confirmed in Agents of SHIELD) it could let the owner have unfettered access to Phil Coulson's every thought, idea, information... and maybe even his will.
Natasha and Clint are an item, but in the hyper-pragmatic way spyguys do everything else
Most spies have to hide and lie about what they do to those closest to them. Clint and Natasha may be a couple, but they understand fully that their jobs may necessitate one or both of them pretending to be the lover/spouse of someone else, up to even sleeping with other people, so they enjoy each others' company in their downtime, and don't worry about what happens when they're apart. Basically an open relationship by necessity/pragmatism. Squares nicely with Natasha wearing an arrow necklace in Winter Soldier, and showing closeness with Steve that isn't just for cover while they're being hunted.
Members and Machinations of HYDRA
In Winter Soldier
we saw that non-SHIELD members could also be part of HYDRA or at least sympathizers, the example given in the movie is Senator Stern
. And we also saw that HYDRA caused several events that led to where the world is currently in. So who else is a non-SHIELD HYDRA-lyte
or what events were machinated by them? I'm willing to bet the Ten Rings was a machination and that the REAL Mandarin(see All Hail The King One-Shot) is a HYDRA sympathizer.
Professor Strange will simply be a master of Asgardian and/or alien Technology
Given that the Marvel Cinematic Universe
runs on Clarke's Third Law
, it would make sense that Strange isn't actually magic in MCU, but simply a master of otherworldly technologies that have been found in recent years. He probably is a consultant of SHIELD, but he has strong morals, which is why HYDRA wanted to eliminate him.
Powers Boothe's character in The Avengers
was Lamar Wyatt, and Agent May was either undercover as the head of Capitol Nashville or she has a twin sister that hasn't been mentioned yet for some reason. This also means that Juliet Barnes is somehow related to Bucky.
As pointed out on the "Fridge" page of Puella Magi Madoka Magica
, it's possible that Kyubey is lying by omission (as he does) when he says "teenage girls" are the best source for contracts (notice he doesn't say "only" or "exclusive"), and a specific theory put forth is that boys (or men) may be told they're "superheroes" fighting "monsters." Here are some guesses about specific characters.
- Phillip Coulson. As noted on the WMG for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Coulson appears to have low-level psychic powers that could be explained by being a magical boy. He was able to come back from Loki's attack because his Soul Gem was unharmed, and even though he "died" his body just had to be repaired. The thing that Hill says he can never know as of the Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. pilot is the mechanism for his survival - Fury (who is also of Kyubey's race - who said the cat-bunny thing is the only form they can take?) knows he will have a freakout if he realizes his soul is outside his body (like Sayaka did). His wish was probably that they could find out what happened to his childhood hero ...
- Howard Stark (original idea from Iron Man WMG Page): While Steve's plane was going down, Howard desperately wished to save his life. The Incubators being what they are, this led to Steve surviving ... but frozen under the ocean and lost to his friends forever. It was a downward spiral from there and that's why Tony always knew him as a cold man.
- Tony Stark: He wished for supernatural intelligence in the hopes he could impress his dad instead of just wishing for a better relationship with him (similar to the mistakes the girls make throughout PMMM).
- Or maybe he contracted with Kyubey so that he can escape from his terrorist captors. His arc reactor is actually his soul gem.
- Loki may not have contracted, but he has seen the Incubator homeworld. He tells Thor he saw many worlds - which implies he didn't end up with the Chiaturi right away. A big part of why he went completely nuts between Thor and Avengers was seeing the Incubator homeworld where anyone with emotions is imprisoned as a lunatic and they sacrifice other races willy-nilly for a threat billions of years away.
There will be something happened to Sam Wilson, which will make him able to understand bird languange.
It could be mishappen thing with Stephen Strange or Soul/ Mind Gem.
Now that Phase Three has been announced, a lot of people are wondering where it'll go from there. I've even seen people suggest that it *can't* go anywhere else, because everything has been leading up to Thanos so far. That's silly, of course. Here's one possibility of what their next step will be that doesn't even need seeds in Phase Three, and also (for good measure) features a number of female and non-white leads, includes the presence of most of the franchises, and expands on the timeline of the Marvel Universe.
Elsa Bloodstone is one of a family of immortal monster hunters, who has tracked the wizard Modred to a small seaside mining town and, with the help of Sheriff Carter Slade and Sorcerer Supreme Doctor Druid, has to stop him from finding a book called the Darkhold and using it to summon the elder god Chthon.
Elsa visits Carson's Carnival of Travelling Wonders, which holds such oddities as N'Kantu the Mummy, the Ebony Blade, and the skull of Goom. But Elsa was brought there to examine Carson's newest acquisition: the "Grottu Crown", which looks suspiciously like Ant-Man's helmet.
Black Panther 2-
A gang of grave robbers awaken N'Kantu the Living Mummy, the illegitimate son of Black Panther's ancestor, T'Chombi. As Black Panther tries to protect Wakanda from his wrath, we learn about N'Kantu's history of being sold into the slavery of pharaoh Rama-Tut.
We see that Rama-Tut has technology far beyond what he should.
Guardians of the Galaxy 3000-
The Guardians complete a heist, but the item they steal, the Forever Crystal, sends them to the year 3000 where they meet the future Guardians: Vance Astro (wielding Cap's shield), Charlie-27, Martinex, Nikki, and Yellowjacket. Together they try to prevent Kang the Conquerer from taking over the Alpha Centauri system.
Kang retrieves the Forever Crystal and uses it to power his time ship, and he ends up in Ancient Egypt.
Black Widow and Hawkeye-
Black Widow, Hawkeye, and other SHIELD agents investigate a dangerous cult called the Church of Immortus, who will do anything to stop the progress of technology and space travel.
Something the Church of Immortus does makes an armored figure called the Scarlet Centurion aware of Earth, and he decides to take it over.
Captain America: Red, White, and Black -
In the 1940s, the government performs tests a prototype recreation of the super soldier serum on black soldiers. Only one survives: Isaiah Bradley, who then finds himself fighting the Serpent Society and their leader, Viper, aka Madame Hydra.
We find out this is a story being told by present-day Isaiah Bradley to Bucky, who's still trying to learn about himself. We also learn that he's an underground hero to the black community and see pictures of him with people like Black Panther, Nick Fury, and Falcon.
Captain Marvel 2 -
When the Scarlet Centurion tries to invade earth, it's up to the Air Force (Captain Marvel, Falcon, and War Machine) to stop him.
The Nova Corps comes to collect Scarlet Centurion, and we learn his real name is Marcus Kang.
Agents of ATLAS-
In the 1950s, A SHIELD agent, a gorilla, a robot, an alien, a god, and a jungle girl go undercover in the ATLAS Foundation to fight the evil Yellow Claw and prevent his sabotage of the space program.
We learn that the ATLAS Foundation is an arm of the Church of Immortus.
Incredible Hulk: Future Imperfect - Bruce banner winds up in a future where a version of him called the Maestro rules, so he teams up with Elsa Bloodstone, Stature (Ant-Man's daughter) and She-Hulk to take him down.
She-Hulk is abducted by a mysterious stranger and meets her fellow abductees: Isaiah Bradley, Black Panther, Elsa Bloodstone, Captain Marvel, Yellowjacket, and The Uranian.
Kang, Scarlet Centurion, and Rama-Tut team-up to break the time stream and rebuild it with them in charge. The mysterious stranger, who's revealed to be Immortus, tasks his makeshift Avengers with saving reality from his younger selves. This movie will feature action in a lot of different time periods, and Yellowjacket will lose her helmet in the old west, bringing everything full circle.
...the only hitch in this plan I can see is if Rama-Tut, and the rest by extension, are wrapped up in the Fantastic Four rights. I assume he'd be shared, though, or Rama-Tut belongs to FF but the rest belong to the Avengers.
Thanos is losing the Infinity Stones on purpose.
If we assume that Thanos is attempting to court Death in these movies as in the comics, perhaps he's letting the heroes gather the stones in the hopes that they will all be placed in highly guarded, highly populated
locations. We already know this to be the case with the Tesseract and the Orb, being on Asgard and Xandar. Once all of them are secure, Thanos will launch a war on each of these places, singlehandedly storming in and killing as many people as he can to get the stones. Maybe to prove his worthiness to Death, demonstrating how many people he can kill even without
the Infinity Stones?
One of the future stingers will be Peter Quill and Tony Stark having a dance-off.
Because it needs to happen.
Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch will appear in the Inhumans film.
Assuming the rumors of them being Inhumans descendants are true.
- It would likely mean that they aren't with the Avengers fighting Thanos at the time.
- Crystal of the Inhumans will probably appear in the movie. She and Quicksilver were married for a time in the comics, and even had a daughter together. Even if he and Wanda aren't Inhumans here, they'll likely end up meeting at some point.
He didn't actually look worried when Ronan takes an Infinity Gem and says he'd use it against Thanos
, also I always wondered why would he want to conquer Earth (giving Loki one, or possibly two, Gems to do it), or if he expected no one would find out the Orb was a Gem. The answer, to both of them, is that he didn't: he knows the Gems are powerful and dangerous, and that the galaxy is full of people who'd want them for themselves, so instead of keeping them for himself he's leaving them to others to keep until he's ready, then he will come and take all of them at once. Also, by doing that, he gets to have others experiment with their powers, acquiring all the information we can without taking any actual risk, and he also has all his opponent fight on them and all the traitors in his ranks coming out now instead of doing it when it's not as convenient for him, getting to both wear his opponents out and clean his own ranks. If you think about it, he's lost virtually nothing yet (the Chitauri were machines and not an actual army, and Ronan, Gamora and Nebula all wanted to betray him, the exception was the Great Other, and even him wasn't killed in a fight for the Orb, but just because he provoked Ronan a bit too much
, but Ronan's dead, both the Collector and the Nova Corps, owners of a Gem each, suffered great losses, the Earth isn't at his best and the Loki's mind-controlling scepter, wether it holds a Gem or not, is still wreaking havock, and speaking about Loki he owes quite a lot to Thanos, and he's the one who owns the Aether
. When the time will come, getting all the six of them will hardly be a fight at all if the teaser can be trusted, he'll actually get the Infinity Gauntlet
Films in future phases?
- Phase 4
- Captain America 4
- Thor/Gaurdians of the Galaxy Crossover (With Beta Ray Bill)
- Iron Man 4 (With Pepper as Rescue)
- Another Avengers (w/o One side of the Civil War. Possibly Secret invasion if Marvel/Disney can get the rights to the Fantastic 4 Villains in it.)
- Phase 5
- Nick Fury Solo Film (Based on his backstory from Original Sin)