WMG: Mario & Luigi: Dream Team
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Mario is a Dreamwalker.He can enter and alter dreams. Sound familiar?
Luigi will literally have to fight his fears.Luigi will have to go head to head with his fears in the dream world. A ghost will be one of the bosses, and the final boss will be his nightmare.
Luigi's dreams will involve characters and situations from past Mario & Luigi games, perhaps mixed up or misremembered.Look at these characters◊. Don't they look like Hoohooligans?
- Problem. Luigi's dreams are entirely 2D and only has Mario playable. That picture shows Mario AND Luigi in the usual 3/4 Overworld of Mario & Luigi games.
- Possibly Mario and Luigi will visit previous locations like the Beanbean Kingdom, or some residents of Beanbean have migrated to the Mushroom Kingdom.
- It seems the Big Bad is a nightmare with elements of previous Mario RPG villains.
This game will actually tap into the darkness in Luigi's heart.Think about it. For three games (Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga, Super Paper Mario and Super Smash Brothers Brawl), Luigi's stated to have a dark side and/or a dark secret that he doesn't want Mario to know about. With Mario in Luigi's dream, we'll tap into this darkness that will be scene as a nightmare sequence with actual Nightmare Fuel and actually get the full details of what Luigi's been hiding.
- Not to mention that Luigi's supposed "dark secret" plays a major role for all of three seconds in Partners in Time (when Luigi is deemed unworthy to hit the Aurora Block), then disappears without a trace. Given the Mario & Luigi series's track record of foreshadowing in this way (think Fawful's speech in PiT), I wouldn't be surprised at all if this sort of game took the opportunity to resolve this plot thread.
- Luigi's vaguely defined dark side also seemed to play a part in Super Paper Mario, Where Luigi spent some time as a villian, and was a danger to the entire universe... Lots of interesting things to do with it.
- Unfortunately Jossed.
There will be a sewer area in Luigi's dream world......and you change the water levels by putting Luigi's hand in warm water.
- Jossed. There is no sewer area in the game.
The Zeekeeper is Empyrea's mate...
- They have a lot of similarities...and Empyrea couldn't have had offspring on her own...
A form of Bowser is going to be the final boss
- Bowletta. Shrowser. Dark Bowser. Enough said. I think the Bowser might be mind controlled though. Seeing how goofy Bowser is in this series, I think it'll be unwillingly.
- Better than that, it will be Luigi's nightmares manifesting as Bowser.
- Wouldn't it make more sense for Luigi's nightmares to manifest as his own Arch-Enemy and worst fear, King Boo?
- Confirmed. The last boss battle consists of Giant Bowser vs Giant Luigi, then a battle against Antasma and finally a combination of Bowser and the Dream Stone,which he absorbs. Jossed however on Bowser being mind-controlled, as he had previously usurped the Big Bad role from Antasma, his transformation into Dreamy Bowser was voluntary last-ditch-effort on his part, and most importantly: He is still in control of his actions!
- Better than that, it will be Luigi's nightmares manifesting as Bowser.
There will be an alternate universe
- And Luigi's dreams are the portal to the universe. Mario will travel in the dreams and then "Mario" will come back out, who will demand Peach to come with him and take her prisoner.
- Partially confirmed. The Dream World is a separate place, with Luigi's dreams acting as a portal. Dreamy Mario was created by the Big Bad, but it only happened after the princess was kidnapped, and he was defeated by the real Mario before having any chance to leave.
Fawful will be a Bonus BossIn Luigi's dreams. But it will only be a figment of Luigi's mind, not the real Fawful. This would be a loophole to keep him around for his popularity and still comply with his death in the previous game.
- Jossed: There is a Bonus Boss but it is not Fawful. It's Bowser Jr.
- In fact, Fawful makes no appearance at all.
Bowser will once again be the tutorial boss, somehow.In all previous games, Bowser had served as a tutorial boss (Partners in Time technically counts, since there were two of them — each for the baby and adult Marios — and the first one was Baby Bowser). Since each one had Luigi at the sidelines, maybe it could take place when Mario jumps into the dream world to save Peach, only to encounter a dream world version of Bowser. This saves the game's plot from having to bring the real Bowser to Pi'illo Island until later on, much like how Partners in Time handled the adult Bowser.
- Jossed. The very first fight in the game is against Antasma, the game's Big Bad
- Jossed. Antasma is the Big Bad. At least until Bowser takes that role from him. Tatanga doesn't even make an appearance or cameo.
The final Giant Luigi boss will be Giant Bowser.It would be the perfect throwback to the prior game and a definite crowning moment of awesome for Luigi, taking out Bowser with minimal help from Mario.
The game will be Hijacked By Wart.Wart will be revealed as the one pulling the strings the whole time, using Antasma as a proxy minion in order to enact revenge against the Mario Bros.
- The part about Wart pulling the strings is jossed. Someone does hijack the Big Bad role from Antasma however: Bowser!
Antasma will have some past connection with Cackletta.At least, from before the Pi'llows banished him, of course.
The Kylie Koopa seen in this game is a descendant of the one seen in Partners In Time.This explains two things: One, why she doesn't remember meeting the Mario Bros.; and two, why she doesn't look like she's aged a bit. Mario and Luigi actually met her ancestor (possibly her mother or grandmother) in Partners In Time; they did meet in the Mushroom Kingdom of the past, after all.
Version 1.2 of the game will fix the gyro controls.Version 1.1 came out on September 5th, but it only fixed the freezing issues of the game. The next version, Version 1.2, will fix the gyro control issues that prevent it from registering.
Pi'illo Island is not a tropical island, but has a temperate maritime climate like Seattle or Cape CodFor starters, you don't have to climb all THAT high on Mount Pajamaja to reach the snow line and apparently the tree line isn't that far up, either. If it were a tropical island, the entire mountain would be snow-free given that it's not all that tall (likely 10,000-15,000 feet). Also, there is very little tropical vegetation, even in Wakeport and Driftwood Shore. Given that Pi'illo Island was developed for tourism, the palm trees we see are likely hardly palms imported to give a more "tropical" look to an island that would fall into growing zone 7, which is not even considered subtropical (that would be zones 8-10). Plus, the only ones commenting on the heat are the mountain-loving Hooskis, still maritime and humid continental climate islands can get fairly hot, and to most people, 90 degrees is a hot day at the beach. Also, a quick look at Somnom Woods (entirely untouched by tourism) gives a picture of the native vegetation, which is like what you would see in a continental climate. The feverish way Brickle and Britta work their crew in their respective areas also implies that they have a limited time each year and that other than skiiers on Mount Pajamaja, there wouldn't be much call for tourism between November and April.
Antasma will return as the Big Bad in a future M&L.