The films are adaptation are not sequels to each other but instead straight adaptations from the books
This is why there is a loose continuity between the films and why the actor playing Bond changes, as no two films actually share the same continuity; instead they're just continuous film adaptations of different books
, like how Interview with the Vampire
and Queen of the Damned
have different actors
and almost no shared continuity but come from the same book series
- Some still have continuity between each other, such as Dr. No and From Russia with Love; The Spy Who Loved Me and Moonraker; and Casino Royale, Quantum of Solace, and Skyfall.
- Somewhat jossed. Other films have connections as well, such as On Her Majesty's Secret Service and For Your Eyes Only and all of the Brosnan films, with characters returning. An alternate way of seperating films is by era. There is the first era, which lasted from 1962-1985, with Connery, Lazenby, and Moore being Bond. His age is consistant, being about 30 in Dr. No, and around 53 by A View to a Kill. Then there is the second era, with Bond being played by Dalton and Brosnan, lasting from 1987-2002. Again, his age works, being in his early 30's in The Living Daylights and about 45 by Die Another Day. Then there is the current series, starting with Casino Royale, and ending at an undefined point. Those films have the closest continuity to each other, and work better overall. Whether each series represents the start of a new continuity, or a different Bond is left up to the viewer to decide.
"James Bond" is simply a name picked at random (the author of a book on West Indian birds, in fact) that is adopted by every agent to hold the post of 007
Sort of like The Dread Pirate Roberts
. Note that Bond tends to give it out freely and is almost never referred to by his code number. This is supported by the original film version of Casino Royale
, where the first
James Bond — now retired and tending to his roses — complains to a government official about the "homicidal sex maniac" running around Europe using his name. This was what the director for Die Another Day
wanted to do to get Pierce Brosnan and Sean Connery (the then latest and first Bonds, respectively) in the movie together, but Executive Meddling
prevented it. And for good cause.
- But all the Bonds have links to each other:
- Lazenby is seen fiddling with Connery-era gadgets like Grant's watch.
- Roger Moore visits the grave of the Lazenby Bond's wife, Tracy Bond.
- Timothy Dalton's Bond is known by Felix Leiter to have had an abrupt marriage.
- Brosnan's Bond noticeably references this in The World Is Not Enough.
- It's not impossible to retcon these into the theory. Lazenby received Connery's watch as part of his cover (to pass down certain objects between the agents to keep up the impression that they're one guy). Moore could have visited Tracy's grave as a mark of respect to his short-lived predecessor. Perhaps the man who became known as Dalton's Bond, like the man who became Lazenby's Bond, was also married at some point. As was Brosnan's. Also, any knowledge of previous missions the current Bond has could simply be something he read about in reports and profiles.
- But there's also an earlier reference Tracy Bond in the Moore era films: In The Spy Who Loved Me, Anya Amasova mentions Bond's wife who was killed, and this clearly brings back some painful memories for Bond, as he angrily asks Amasova to stop talking about her. If it was merely the wife of his predecessor Amasova was talking about, I don't think Bond would have reacted the way he did. Amasova even comments that it's unusual for Bond to be so sensitive about a woman.
- It's also possible that not every new actor indicates a new Bond. Perhaps there have been no more than three James Bonds. Exactly when number one retired is another question.
- Three Bonds works. The first Bond is played by Sean Connery, George Lazenby and Roger Moore — his age is fairly consistent throughout (born circa 1930) and the links between these three are much more solid. The second Bond is played by Timothy Dalton and Pierce Brosnan — again, the age is fairly consistent (born circa 1950) and the callbacks to previous Bonds (the "abrupt marriage" referred to above) are ambiguous enough that it's not necessarily the same person. The third Bond (Born circa 1970) is played by Daniel Craig, and this is the first time we explicitly see that it's a new person. This also allows Daniel Craig's Bond to be in the same continuity as the others.
- But in the The Living Daylights, there are several references of Dalton's Bond having been in this job for a long time. For example, Bond mentions to M that he's known General Pushkin, the new KGB chief, for quite a while; when the two meet in the movie, Pushkin recognizes Dalton as James Bond without him having to introduce himself, and the two treat each other as long-time worthy opponents. Similarly, Felix Leiter and a concierge at a hotel in Tangier (where Bond apparently stays whenever he's in town) both recognize Dalton as James Bond, an old acquaintance. Most likely, these meetings wouldn't play out the way they do if Dalton was a new guy who'd replaced the old "James Bond" within the last two years.
- This article does a fairly good job pointing out why this theory is flawed, and how Connery, Lazenby, Moore, Dalton, and Brosnan are the same Bond. Lazenby is clearly familiar with Connery gadgets, and Connery is seen at the beginning of Diamonds Are Forever to be tracking Blofeld in revenge for the death of his wife (Also, if he was different, why would he come back?). Moore was recognized as James Bond by a friend from his Cambridge days in The Spy Who Loved Me (Set way before Dr. No), and is shown to be delivering flowers to his dead wife and finally killing Blofeld in revenge. Dalton was still called "James Bond" even after he quit in Licence to Kill, and they never send a replacement "James Bond" after him. If he was playing a different guy, they would refer to his real name, and not his code name, after he quit. GoldenEye's prologue takes place "9 years ago", before The Living Daylights, making Dalton and Brosnan the same Bond. Thus, all the pre-Casino Royale Bonds are the same guy.
- Lazenby's Bond could be familiar with Lazenby's gadgets since Q Laboratories likely provides gadgets for all MI6 agents and not just this one guy. Revenge for the death of Tracy could be a sort of respect deal, like maybe Connery's Bond respected Lazenby's or was even friends with the guy, and there's also the fact that Blofeld is the leader of an extremely dangerous terrorist organization and therefore a person who should be killed at any given opportunity (like this one). Moore's could have simply been recognized, though not called by name (I gotta admit, I haven't seen the flick in a while), and his leaving flowers for Tracy could be a sign of respect for his predecessors as well as understanding the symbolism inherent of how being Bond means you're not allowed to get too close to anyone. As for killing Blofeld ... again, Blofeld was the leader of an extremely dangerous terrorist organization and therefore a person who should be killed at any given opportunity (like this one), and besides, Blofeld started it. Despite Dalton's license being revoked, MI6 still codenamed him "Bond" since they had no one else at the time to take up the mantle (keep in mind that there was a six-year gap between Licence to Kill and GoldenEye, meaning it took six years for the new Bond to step in) and it was just a convenient codename for other spies to use in code communication. The last one is this troper's famous "plot hole" to explain: the prologue of GoldenEye does indeed take place one year before the events of The Living Daylights, but remember that in the prologue the mission ends in disaster and Bond is deeply scarred by what happened. In the scene after the intro, set nine years later, Bond is being checked by a government worker to see if he is fit for duty. The timeline goes that after Moore resigned (due to old age, presumably?), Brosnan stepped in as the new James Bond. However, after the failed mission in 1986, he was unfit for the highly stressful and demanding job of James Bond and Dalton replaced him. MI6, remembering the trouble they had finding a new Bond to suddenly take Lazenby's place (Connery had to come out of retirement before they discovered Moore), kept Brosnan on a watchlist. Once Dalton's license was revoked, they simply put the Bond program on hold or even canceled it, seeing it as a failure. Six years later, the new M (Judi Dench) revived the Bond project and Brosnan was finally well enough to become the fifth Bond - James Bond.
- Never Say Never Again is not offically canon, and thus could be another Bond. Casino Royale was specifically stated to be a "reboot". The only thing connecting the two timelines is the fact that Judi Dench plays M, which the makers actually stated was simply because Judi Dench was such a recognizable M that Rule of Cool won over continuity.
- Lazenby refers to "the other fellow" (albeit in a Fourth Wall-breaking moment). Clearly his Bond isn't Connery's.
- The most notable evidence is that he and Blofeld don't recognize each other after being together in You Only Live Twice. While Blofeld is known for changing his appearance via plastic surgery, there's no such evidence for Bond. The actual reason was that they adhered too closely to the novel which takes place prior to the two meeting face to face.
- Could also be a case of I Know You Know I Know, where both Bond and Blofeld are simply trying to out-gambit each other, with Blofeld trying to see how much Bond knows, and Bond trying to uncover a deeper plot.
- Connery's Bond later shows up in The Rock.
- Also, take the example of the new Casino Royale: Craig's Bond is explicitly new on the job, but M is the same as she was for Brosnan's.
- Problem with that, though, is he's referred to as "James Bond" before he's officially made a Double-0.
- It might simply be procedure at MI6 to screen potential James Bonds by first granting them the name and then assigning them the official number only after they've proven themselves in the field.
- Or perhaps everyone at MI-6 has a codename: after all, we have seen more than one Q, more than one Moneypenny, more than one M. It could be that "James Bond" is just a randomly assigned name - or they assign names by psychological profile or something.
- The other problem with trying to fit Craig's Bond into any kind of continuity is that Casino Royale is a franchise reboot.
- Franchise reboot, but the exact same M as the last Brosnan films? Riiight....
- Yes, "riiight". Reboots don't have to be complete wipes of everything single thing that came before to be reboots.
- Not the same M, just the same actress.
- Very possible. Brosnan's era M refers to Bond as a Cold War relic and chastises him for it, whereas Craig's era M states that she misses the Cold War.
- That's not necessarily a discontinuity. It could be "you're a relic, while I've moved on." Or it may simply be "the grass is greener". If you consider the year each film was written/produced as the year it's set in, all of Brosnan's stories happened before 9/11. (Die Another Day just squeaks under - it was produced throughout 2001 and released in 2002). Casino Royale is the first one explicitly set after that. You might miss the Cold War too, an era (in Hollywood History) where the good guys and bad guys were much more clear cut and the politics considerably less messy. Different era, different sentiments, like a person who longs for cooler weather at the height of summer and dreams of summer in the middle of February.
- The filmmakers actually said that because Judi Dench was such a memorable M (anyone who went into the James Bond series during the Brosnan era will definitely recognize Judi Dench as M) that they included her anyways. Rule of Cool won over continuity.
- Although it doesn't appear in the movie itself, tie-in material to GoldenEye gives M's name as Barbara Mawdsley; however, a blink-and-you'll-miss-it shot in Skyfall gives M's name as Olivia Mansfield. Although it's probably unintentional, it could be taken as evidence that the Brosnan-era M and Craig-era M are two separate characters who happen to be played by the same person.
- Fun fact: there are three Bonds who look like Sean Connery. (The first one, the one between Lazenby and Moore, and the one in "Never Say Never Again.")
- At least one of which was really Henry Jones, Sr.
- Or it could have just been Connery's Bond who was convinced to come back for a couple missions.
- This actually works very well, for the skip between "Twice" and "Diamonds." He retired and was replaced, but the new man fell in love, got married, and his wife was murdered, forcing his resignation. Without time to train a new man, they bring back the old one, who was friends with his temporary replacement (perhaps having trained him), and who was on one last revenge mission to avenge his friend's loss before reporting for duty.
- This would make Miss Moneypenny seem a lot less insensitive, when she asks Connery for a diamond (engagement) ring. Not very nice for a guy whose wife just died.
- My theory is that if you�re gonna get hung up on all that stuff, you�ll drive yourself crazy. Let�s just say that Casino Royale has no relation to any of the other Bond films. They just hit the reset button and started a new series, without being hampered by anything from the other films. They simply cast Judi Dench because she�s a good actor and was available at the time.
- Judging from the last two films, hiding the true names of MI-6 personnel may be standard practice for the agency. Casino Royale portrays Judi Dench's M as being quite upset that Bond has discovered her name and home address. Quantum of Solace, meanwhile, reveals that "Rene Mathis" is only a cover name for that character, though he apparently continued to use it after his "retirement" from MI-6.
- Connery, Lazenby, Moore, Dalton, and Brosnan were all the same person. The apparent lack of aging (or at least very slow aging) is justified by a sliding time-scale, similar to that of the Pre-Crisis DC Comics. Craig, on the other hand, assumed the identity upon the former's retirement, which explains why M & Q look so different than they did at the start of the series.
- Presumably, they�re all required to introduce themselves the same way, have essentially the same basic personalities, and order vodka martinis, shaken not stirred. Not buying it.
- Personalities can be a result of spy training, and martini is just an advice (Bond at least once order something else - mojito), the introduction is something first Bond used, and the rest follows because they think it's cool.
- I never said the martini was Bond�s only drink. But he does seem to have a clear preference for it. What about all the references to Tracy and her death? Or the fact that both Pierce Brosnan and George Lazenby have the same family motto, The World Is Not Enough? Here�s my counter-theory. Actors age. They get new different guys to take over the role. Further clarification isn�t required.
- Considering Moore and Lazenby the same person helps out a lot. Lazenby and Moore do look quite a like, actually. We can say Lazenby's quit for a while, Connery's came back, and over the time, Lazenby became Moore.
- At least one of the Bonds is James Bond Jr..
- This theory is Jossed by Skyfall, where we learn that Daniel Craig's character's real name is James Bond, as the movie shows he was called that before he became an MI6 agent. We also see the grave of his parents, and his father's surname is "Bond" too.
- Perhaps not; all the "James Bonds" are different agents that just happen to really be half-Scottish men named James Bond.
- Alternatively, to use a bit of a retcon, the other Bonds were the previous 007's, but weren't named James Bond in this continuity.
- So, essentially, you would need to mess with the continuity (assume the previous James Bonds weren't actually James Bonds) to justify a theory that was originally coined to explain messes in the continuity? Sounds a bit pointless, no? Wouldn't it be easier to just say that before Craig, there was only one Bond who existed in a Comic Book Time type of continuity, and this continuity was rebooted with Casino Royale, with Craig being only the second iteration of the character?
- Another possibility: James Bond is a codename, but every James Bond is brainwashed to believe it's his real name. Specifically, they're brainwashed by Dr Albert Hirsch, AKA "Kincaid", AKA Albert Finney, who runs the Skyfall facility (which is mothballed between Bonds). Whenever a Bond starts wondering where he comes from, he goes back to Skyfall, and the story of an orphan who couldn't bear to return home. And if he does visit, he finds an empty house, a couple of inexplicable tunnels (the actual facility is well hidden), a helpful old retainer, and a grave with appropriate dates on it.
- Interesting theory, but why exactly would MI6 go through all the trouble? What do they gain from the brainwashing? Also, if this theory were true, why does a character in The Spy Who Loved Me recognize Moore as "James Bond", the person who went to Cambridge with him? Back when Moore was a student on Cambridge, Connery (or the person preceding him) would've been the official 007/James Bond, so why was Moore called James Bond too? Also, why would people who aren't working for MI6 play along their brainwashing game? For example, as mentioned above, in The Living Daylights Felix Leiter, General Pushkin, and a hotel concierge all recognize Timothy Dalton as "James Bond", an old acquaintance. But if the brainwashing theory was true, this "old acquaintance" is actually a totally new guy. Maybe Leiter has some reason to humor the MI6 and act as if the new Bond is the old Bond, but why would Pushkin and some random concierge do the same?
- Possible alternate theory- MI6 organizes simulations based on previous 007 cases and puts the "new Bond" through them as a test. Would explain discrepancies between books, and different adaptations of the same films.
- The director of Die Another Day supports the theory of James Bond being a code name and seeing as how he didn't work on the Daniel Craig films, the theory about it being true in the ones before Daniel Craig might make sense.
- Roger Moore's Bond started out as Simon Templar and was later recruited to MI6 when Connery's Bond retired.
Going from the above WMG, the new bond and MI6
use less fantastic tech because of the lack of the Cold War
In the real world, the Eastern and the Western often made technology that was flashier than it was useful. Spear guns for underwater combat, jet packs, a nuclear bomb strong enough to level a small country, the entire space race. The longer the Cold War went on, the sillier the things got. In the Bond universe, the secret agencies got into this as well, making elaborate death traps, and gadgets that were Awesome But Impratical
. What ever objectives they were assigned basically went to the way side in a contest who could come up with the silliest and flashiest piece of tech and use it in the dumbest ways, almost making the Russians a Friendly Enemy
However, after the wall fell and 911 hit, the enemy changed. No longer was it the agents of a super power who could afford both the silly tech and led Stylishly Evil
who felt the simple solution was just boring and viewed the whole ordeal as a game more than anything else. Now the villains don't hold back, will only avoid shooting you if have something they need, and care more about the ends than the means. Wrist watch lasers, Moon Bases, invisible cars, all of these things are pretty much useless against bad guys who go back to the basics and and hold nothing back.
The name "Felix Leiter" serves the same function as Bond's in the CIA
There are also multiple
active "Felix Leiter"'s in the CIA at any given time. David Hedison's Felix Leiter was active between Live and Let Die
and Licence to Kill
, but Bond worked with John Terry's Felix Leiter during the events of The Living Daylights
as Hedison's Leiter was busy elsewhere during most of the Roger Moore era. This gives the CIA the ability to disavow a Felix Leiter who gets captured.
- If deniability is the name of the game, there would need to be at least three active Felix Leiter agents; two (or more) in the field and one who works at Langley and is always accounted for.
- The only rub is that Hedison's fiance/wife referred to him as Felix. Would he really marry under a cover name?
- No, but by the time he got round to telling her his real name she had got used to calling him Felix. And in times of stress (like a wedding, or a horrible murder) she reverted back to her old habit.
"Ernst Stavro Blofeld" is an alias used by whoever is the current head of SPECTRE.
SPECTRE does not tolerate failure. In fact, they have a habit of killing people who fail in their set tasks. This is why Blofeld looks different in every movie, and why he doesn't recognize Bond when they come face to face in On Her Majesty's Secret Service.
- Blofeld and Bond never really saw each other face to face until On Her Majesty's Secret Service. Remember, Blofeld wasn't directly involved in any of those schemes. It was one of his henchmen that was running the show in the previous movies.
- In Diamonds Are Forever, Blofeld appears to be able to surgically alter doubles so convincing that he's not even sure if he's the real Blofeld
- The Blofeld seen in From Russia With Love and Thunderball is indeed the real Ernst Stavro Blofeld. The one in You Only Live Twice (Donald Pleasence) is just a stand-in, and died during the eruption. The real Blofeld (Telly Savalas) and Bond finally come face-to-face in On Her Majesty's Service That can explain why they do not recognize each other. After killing his wife, Blofeld goes into hiding, and puts another stand-in in charge. (Charles Gray) The stand-in is killed in the opening teaser, as HIS stand-ins are left in charge. That wold explain why Blofeld acts so strangely in Diamonds Are Forever. He's just an actor suddenly in charge of a terrorist organization. Finally, the Blofeld in For Your Eyes Only is the real Blofeld again, notice the heavy similarities between that one and the Telly Savalas Blofeld, last time we saw him. Bond finally has his revenge on Blofeld, dropping him down the smokestack.
"Blofeld" is the cat
Every time Blofeld is shown onscreen, he's got his trademark white cat
. The actor portraying Blofeld, though, is always different. Ergo, as the only element of continuity in all his appearances, the cat must itself be Blofeld
. Pleasance, Savalas, Gray, Sydow and the rest? Expendable fall guys who are either paid actors, men helplessly under the cat's direct control or ambitious dupes who think they�re the Dragon-in-Chief
- This fits Real Life; "dogs have owners, cats have servants". Just check out the heyday of the newsgroup alt.cats.world.domination (yes, it exists) to see this WMG in action.
Bond has to kill someone to drive a car.
In one movie Q is berating Bond for destroying yet another car when he says "You have a license to kill, not to drive." Therefore Bond has to use the several thousand pound vehicles as weapons to justify their use.
- The actual quote is "...not to break the traffic laws." So, perhaps if he's killing someone he gets a sort of diplomatic immunity to parking tickets?
The stories are sexed-up accounts to justify Bond's outrageous expense reports.
"M" has to justify James Bond blowing millions of pounds at casinos in the Caribbean. She says "Well, he stopped a... a.. death ray. Mr. Prime Minister, let me have my tech guy "Q" explain it to you. It's very complex."
- Except for Bond being a ridiculously good gambler who always walks away with more money than he started with...
- In her stories he's a great gambler. In real life, he could be awful.
- They also have to justify the property damage he commits.
- Why does it just have to be Bond's outrageous expenses? Why would M go out of the way to cover for the drunken antics of just one guy? James Bond's sexed up stories is the excuse for ALL of the outrageous drunken parties, casino runs, prositutes that everybody, including M, is partipating. "Prime Minister, James Bond had to stop a man with a... a GOLDEN GUN, yeah, a golden gun... on the very beautiful island of Ko Tapu that he had went alone without anyone else from M-I6 coming with him, saving the world by blowing up the island in what obviously wasn't an attempt to hide evidence of our agency gambling $25 million dollars, my three Thai male escorts, and an umbrella away.
The whole series of books and films exists to distract people. The 00s exist. They are nowhere near as fantastic, highly sexed, or suave as depicted (that is added for entertainment value), but they are real. The reason they have remained hidden is that anyone who comes across evidence of them thinks he has just stumbled across a film script, book excerpt, or fan material. (People who investigate too closely might become vulnerable to that license of theirs...)
- The British government must have some kind of a hit team on call. They did back in the Troubles.
- Alternatively, there is a real-life 00 project, but it has nothing to do with the books and movies; the agents involved are just James Bond fans who named their organization after the franchise as a homage.
- If so, Fleming's fictional "00s" may have came about due to the very probable "James Bond is actually semi-autobiographical" theory below.
The movies and books are a government-sponsored simulation
In the movie and book universes, in the 20th century, there was a 00 agent named James Bond who did have all the adventures of the books and the movies. Now, in a futuristic cyberpunk age, a totalitarian government is putting new agents on an elaborate Virtual Reality
training to make an army of "James Bonds". That's why Bond looks different in different movies: each actor is one of those new agents training in Virtual Reality to "be" Bond.
- Why would a totalitarian government want such a loose cannon? Seems more the sort of guy a resistance would be after.
- The simulation has been hacked. This explains why he can be shot from close range with a machine gun and evade every bullet.
- Either this or the Metal Gear and James Bond universes are one and the same.
James Bond could have been part of a British false flag operation to cripple the country's military so that Western-backed revolutionaries could take over the country, maybe even with Sanchez's help. However, this all goes wrong by Licence To Kill
, where we see that the dictator for life has been replaced by another
dictator for life, backed by the drug overlord Sanchez.
At some point, Blofeld & Oddjob will return.
Furthermore, one will have his brain transplanted into the other's body. Given the terrible pun names we've already been subjected to, this isn't too far fetched.
Mr. White is the new Blofeld
He has lived through two movies (and is thus going to appear in at least three
movies) as a Bond villain. He has lived through an entire movie after James Bond put a bullet in him
. No one save Blofeld has done the first (Jaws managed maybe one and a half before the Heel-Face Turn
), and no one has ever
managed the second. There is no way these feats are performed by, and that much slow buildup given to, a character whose importance is anything less than 'epic master villain'. It is likely that Mr. White was not the seniormost director of Quantum during "Casino Royale" (although the importance and nature of his activities suggests that he was Deputy Director of Operations or similar); but the vacancies Bond has caused in Quantum's command structure and is likely to continue causing in future movies should place him in the highest leadership position fairly quickly.
- As for the 'Deputy Director of Operations' speculation above: Mr. White's role in "Casino Royale" is to arrange an introduction for Le Chiffre to one of Quantum's terrorist clients, and then to dispose of Le Chiffre and recover Quantum's financial losses when Le Chiffre proves unreliable. These are activities normally performed by mere field agents, and mere field agents do not get to attend Board of Directors meetings. For that matter, Quantum doesn't need Le Chiffre's financial network; Dominic Greene's own corporate fronts were far more extensive money laundering and financial fraud operations. So the only way Quantum's involvement in "Casino Royale" makes sense is if Le Chiffre is being considered as a candidate member of Quantum's hierarchy. This is entirely probable, as Le Chiffre (had he not been fatally addicted to dipping into the till) would have been an excellent recruit for such - and supervising the final field test of and then cleaning up after the failure of a candidate for a senior management position is something that would logically be handled personally at directorate level.
James Bond is actually semi-autobiographical.
Ian Fleming served in the Royal Navy during World War II, and achieved the rank of Commander (just like Bond). His cousin, Christopher Lee
, also served in the Royal Army. Winston Churchill then commissioned a special team assembled from the most skilled members of each branch of the military. They were then deployed for special missions in Axis territory. That's right, they were part of the original Inglourious Basterds
... After the war, all the records were sealed under the highest level of government secrecy. The exact nature of their assignments remain classified to this day, not to be revealed until the last of the members has died. Since he was sworn to secrecy, perhaps this was Flemming's way of letting the world know of the great service he did (some details exaggerated, of course).
And, in his Dalton incarnation, is the new Lord President of Gallifrey.
- Didn't Flemming Confirm this somewhere? Also, Cracked had an article about this too.
- Actually, this makes perfect sense. It explains the different appearances AND all the continuity nods to past Bond movies. This might also be a reason why they rebooted the franchise: Daniel Craig is a new Bond because the old one had reached his regeneration limit (which means that Connery wasn't his first incarnation and that "James Bond" actually is a code name, but for different Time Lords, who, as we all know, can regenerate twelve times).
- I was just thinking this as I watched my first Daniel Craig Bond movie. Glad to see someone else is on the same wavelength.
- Perhaps James Bond is a British super-soldier made from a combination of DNA obtained from The Third Doctor when he was banished to earth and the original Sean Connery James Bond. The dates correspond quite well. It explains his longevity, changes to appearance and personality. Also his general tenacity to improvise and survive. Previously they kept their memories but the British government after Dalton went AWOL decided to wipe it with Brosnan. That's why Brosnan's bond is relatively unburdened with the history with the wives. More recently he has been regenerated and memory wiped into Daniel Craig. Perhaps the coincidence with Dalton and Rassilon is the side effect of some Morphic field.
- A different interpretation of the dates match: Connery's James Bond is an alternate version of the Third Doctor, and the other Bonds are his subsequent regenerations note . When the Second Doctor is forced to regenerate, he is given a choice of several faces- in an alternate timeline, he chooses Connery (Who could have been the face the Doctor remarks is "too young") instead of Pertwee. During his exile on Earth, he joins MI6 instead of UNIT.
- It's shown up as fanfic before.
- That's the best explanation I've heard so far. I'll also say that Ernst Stavro Blofeld and Felix Leiter are Time Lords, and that Miss Moneypenny is a Time Lady.
Daniel Craig's James Bond is using a Fob-watch
Expanding from the above theory, we can assume that at some point his memory got erased some time before Casino Royale
; however, that movie came out in 2006, a year after the Time War was revealed. This means, during the gap between Die Another Day
and Casino Royale
, he was off fighting the Time War at some point. He realized that he was going to die there, though, turned himself human and sent himself back to earth; this is why he does not remember anything from the past movies, and is also why a lot of the wackiness has gone out of his character since then.
Felix Leiter is a Time Lord
And the CIA he's working for is actually the Celestial Intervention Agency
More specifically, Bond is captured in Korea but doesn't escape from the torture. He's abandoned by British intelligence, who make the right decision to give him up rather than trade him for Zao - something Bond himself points out is MI-5
's standard operating procedure. He DOES break, but rather than spew information, he goes into a dream world of his own creation, explaining why Die Another Day
is so over-the-top in comparison to other films. The references to previous films are his memories, both of himself and of the Bonds before him, working their way into his dreams.
- I see your WMG and raise you a slightly more elaborate version:
Assuming the James-Bond-as-Time-Lord theory correct, the whole movie is the "Dying Dream" which takes place as Brosnan regenerates into Craig. Why does it seem so incoherent, though? ANSWER: He's fighting in the Time War, and is in danger of being erased from history. Desperate, and determined to exist, Bond frantically claws at anything he can remember�his missions, his allies and enemies, his gadgets, and other things�in an attempt to preserve his timeline. The focus on "living to die another day," and the DNA-regeneration clinic, is Bond's subconscious forcing him to trigger the process.
Other critics have used words like "self-congratulatory" and "self-indulgent" against it. That's the whole point: the film we're watching is Bond's "happy place" where he's trying to escape about the horrifying traumas of this particular regen. (Think "Allan and the Sundered Veil," the short story from "The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Vol. 1.) I imagine him being skewed and stretched in all directions as he plummets through the Nightmare Child, actually...
He ends up coming out of it quite unstable, and he has to be retrained and re-earn his rank of 007. It was so bad, in fact, that having blond hair was the least of his worries! (Addendum, 12/9/13: It is also quite possible to imagine everything past "Brosnan!Bond slows his heart(s)/regenerates" as "a still-cooking Craig!Bond running around like an escaped lunatic through Hong Kong in hospital pajamas, grabbing whatever bits and pieces he can find and assembling them into some kind of narrative. Jinx, the NSA operative, just happens to be undercover on something else, but he drags her into his story. Meanwhile, M has assembled her operatives with orders to 'nudge' Bond into the right position wherever possible.")
If they ever somehow met, Bond could defeat Dio Brando
After all, Dio would soon find that, against Bond, Za Warudo Is Not Enough.
... * Brick'd*
James Bond is Telekinetic
...and, by extension, so are all other 00 agents. This is why James Bond, Alec Trevelyan
, and other 00-agents are by and large capable of dodging immense amounts of bullets and performing dangerous stunts without injury. They're not dodging the bullets: they're pushing them out of the way.
James Bond is a family business
The reason there appear to be several James Bonds with different appearances is that they are all branches or generations of the same family. In the UK there are many aristocratic families that have hereditary rights or duties; why not a whole family of spies? The family traditionally names its sons James. Due to the evidently hereditary sex drive of the Bonds, there is always a plentiful supply of new James Bonds to take over the role when the current holder of the title retires or dies. The existence of "James Bond Junior" (who is also a spy) in the spin-off cartoon would seem to support this idea.
- Just realised this also explains why successive Bonds have the same family motto ("The World is not Enough") even though they appear to be different people.
James Bond is intentionally a high-profile 'spy'
He is, in fact, MI6
's troubleshooter, and not a normal spy. He is only sent in when there is known to be someone operating who needs to be uncovered and stopped, not to do the more normal spy work of gathering information. As such, his preferred operating procedure is to enter the situation and make sure people know he is there, while doing some minor information gathering. The point is to panic the opposition by having them think that 'James Bond' is closing in on them, and have them react and try to take him out. At which point he is expected to use his skill in escaping and surviving, and trace back the attack to find the target he is after.
- Correct. People like Kerim Bey or Dikko Hendersen are the real spies, the people who stay in a certain place long term and try to build up an information network about everything that goes on in those places. Bond doesn't do that. He's an assassin, not a spy. "Troubleshooter" might be a better word, as you said.
This is a pet theory I've had for years. Why doesn't Bond age? How does he keep surviving explosions and gunshots 'n' stuff? And what happens to the women he beds between the movies? The answer is obvious. James Bond (and all other 00 Agents, for that matter) is a vampire. Faced with supernatural threats, MI6
decided to fight fire with fire by acquiring vampires and using them as spies. The reason Bond's various bedmates seem to vanish after the end of every movie is because he DRAINS them. One of the few inversions is Tracy (from OHMSS) who Bond actually fell in love with. Another thing: why does Bond only drink a shaken Vodka Martini? Because (for some odd reason) it's capable of sating his vampiric bloodlust. The other 00s are obviously vampires as well: how else can you explain Alec/Janus/006 surviving a 300-foot fall at the end of GoldenEye
? Finally, I think similar reasoning can be extended to other villains as well, most notably Jaws (obviously a bizarre vampire or invincible zombie), Baron Samedi (an actual voodoo spirit) and Oddjob (whom I strongly suspect is some kind of Golem).
- More specifically, he could be a White Court Vampire (as in the Dresden Files), as many feed on sex, and have few to no supernatural powers other than the general superhuman abilities (super strength, speed, etc), and don't burn up in the sun.
- Well, they have some freaky mojo (their blood is one hell of a drug), they can induce emotion (though JB's ability to bed women might be because of that), and they can drain people for personal power, but otherwise, most supernatural abilities they have shown in the books are from external sources.
He only needs to drink alcohol for sustenance. He can
eat food, but he doesn't have to. He doesn't need to sleep, but he can when he wants to.
Q is a Time Lord.
And his workshop is his TARDIS. Its chameleon circuit actually works, so it shows up disguised as a room in a building wherever it needs to be; this allows him to be there to kit out James Bond on location, and do the same for other agents at the same time.
- Then why has he never regenerated?
- He has, assuming that the armorer form Dr. No—you know, the guy who makes fun of Bond and then equips him with a new weapon for his upcoming mission—regenerated into the guy who does the very same thing in every other movie until Die Another Day.
- It is also possible that R is really future Q.
Miss Moneypenny is a Time Lady.
Same reason as the others. Change of appearance.
James Bond is this universe's equivalent to Keyser Soze
One of the most frequently mocked aspects of the character is the idea of a world famous secret agent; every criminal and terrorist organization knows about him. But they don't know who he is, just his name, and that he leaves a trail of death and destruction behind him wherever he goes, and just about no one who sees his face lives to tell the tale. This also explains why they never just shoot him
. "How do you shoot the Devil in the back? What if you miss?"
Pussy Galore is Bisexual.
Having (questionably consensual) sex with one man, even Bond, isn�t going to �cure� someone of lesbianism - Pussy was probably bisexual.
Daniel Craig's James Bond travelled back in time and became Sean Connery's James Bond.
It's quite clear that Casino Royale
is intended as an origin story for James Bond. It shows how he became a 00-agent, acquired his taste for tuxedoes, won his Aston Martin, and found a name for his Vesper martini. However, there are two problems that mean Casino Royale
does not work as a straighforward prequel. Firstly, the film is clearly set in the 2000s, whereas Dr No
, the very first Bond film, was set in the 1960s. Secondly, the character of M is played in Casino Royale
by Judi Dench, who also played M in the last four Pierce Brosnan films.
There is only one way that Casino Royale
could be James Bond's origin story while still fitting into the same continuity as the previous twenty films: time travel. That's right � at some indeterminate point in the 21st century, Daniel Craig's Bond travels back in time to the 1960s, arrives a couple of years before the events of Dr No
, and becomes the Sean Connery Bond. Over the following decades, he goes on to become the George Lazenby Bond, the Roger Moore Bond, the Timothy Dalton Bond and the Pierce Brosnan Bond. This makes Casino Royale
a sequel in the chronological sense, but a prequel in the sense of character development, as it shows how Bond acquired the iconic characteristics he displayed throughout the previous films. This circular timeline makes it comparable to such time-travel stories as Terminator Salvation
How and why did Bond travel back in time, you ask? Well, who can say? Perhaps our hero's temporal displacement was the result of some villain's elaborate scheme. Maybe MI6
had something to do with it � that would explain why they recognised? their agent from the future. Hey, maybe Bond even volunteered to be sent back. In any case, this would mean that, during the events of Casino Royale
, the ancient time-travelling Pierce Brosnan Bond is still out there somewhere, perhaps enjoying a well-earned retirement.
Needless to say, this theory is fully compatible with the one which postulates that James Bond is a timelord � in fact, it is enhanced by it, as it would explain the whole 'time travel' aspect very nicely.
Lazenby and Dalton played the same Bond
Extending on the theory that there were multiple agents named James Bond, Most callbacks from Dalton's era are to Lazenby's interpretation of Bond. Thus I hypothesise that these two actors are portraying the same Bond, who is not the same as Connery or Moore's Bond. Still undecided about these johnny-come-lately versions.
Daniel Craig's Bond worked at a construction site earlier in his life.
How else would he be able to drive a bulldozer, know what lever unhooked the crane pulley, and lower a scissor lift? He even recognizes a steam pipe and shoots it to spray a mook. (At around 7:44 in this video
- There's a fairly good chance that all the Bonds worked on construction projects while in the Navy.
Blofeld is Ian Fleming.
In the novel Thunderball
, Blofeld was born on May 28, 1908 — the same day as Ian Fleming.
The Boothroyd in Dr. No is Q's son
His father could have just been sick or away that day.
- Q does indeed have a grandson, in James Bond Jr., but the less said about that, the better.....
No-one could possibly name their daughter Christmas (which is clearly the main problem with Denise Richards playing a globe-trotting Nuclear Physicist). It's probably a hyphenated name, because she is either the half-sister, or an ex-wife, of Lee Christmas of The Expendables
. That only leaves the question of what her real
first name is, and why she's too embarrassed to use it.
- Clearly it has to be "Mary".
The real reason Blofeld never came back is because he died twice.
First in the submarine and then through the smokestack. He himself even stated that You Only Live Twice
Moneypenny is a former Bond Girl from a story that wasn't published.
That's the way she teases and flirts with James. She was saved by him and ended up involved in his adventure. She's really into the action of his cases.
With each 007 that takes the moniker, his first ever Bond Girl becomes Moneypenny
And then Moneypenny is a codename given to his main handler.
Bond was rendered infertile by the torture in Casino Royale
Assuming Casino Royale
is the first Bond film chronologically, when Le Chiffre attacked James's manhood with the knotted rope, it caused enough damage to prevent him from ever having kids. This explains why he can have unprotected sex with pretty much every woman he meets, and yet not one of them ever gets pregnant.
- Alternately, he has dozens of kids, but his status as a covert operative allows him to duck responsibility for them.
- In fairness, we don't exactly get "money shots" of Bond's encounters, he could very well use condoms religiously. Not to mention the various forms of medical contraceptive the women could be using. In GoldenEye, he cracks a joke about "safe sex", so he is at least familiar with the concept.
- It's quite possible he's had a vasectomy.
Francisco Scaramanga is Mr. Roarke's evil twin.
Do I even need to explain this one?
- Just in case I do: both Spaniards with identical servants. Both live on private islands. Both provide discreet, expensive services. This can't all be coincidence.
David Niven's Bond is the first Bond
He lives through the events of Casino Royale, the first Bond novel (sort of- just pretend they actually directed the film seriously). After that his nephew Jimmy grows to be the Sean Connery incarnation. Don't ask about later book continuity- maybe Moore was active in the field slightly before Connery, hence Live and Let Die is the second book? And the Connery films just got shot out of order? Who knows.
- He doesn't age and changes forms. He's also using magic to deflect bullets.
The 00 Programme is actually a longstanding MI6
project to produce brainwashed covert operatives
Related to the above - that James Bond is a cover identity used by multiple agents. Massive extrapolation and huge Skyfall spoilers to follow.
The 00 programme was started during the cold war to provide the 'perfect covert operative'. Individuals displaying the right combination of physical prowess and mental malleability were taken by MI6
to a series of training camps around the world, where they were systematically brainwashed, trained to the peak of physical perfection and combat skill, and indoctrinated with complete loyalty to the United Kingdom in general, and to M in particular. They were imprinted with new identities, carefully constructed to support the brainwashing. Skyfall was one of these training camps - an abandoned manor house, where the identity of "James Bond" was constructed - each agent there was given to believe he was the actual James Bond, whose parents had died in a climbing accident, who had served in the navy, and who had joined MI6
. Whenever a 007 died or retired, a new agent was selected, sent to Skyfall for brainwashing and imprinting on whoever was M at the time, given an evaluation period, and sent into the field.
Connery!Bond was the first, and showed it was working perfectly. In You Only Live Twice, his cover-story marriage to Kissy Suzuki actually blossomed into love, which put a strain on Bond's programming to be a perfectly cold 'governmental blunt instrument' - he was pensioned off, still thinking he was James Bond, put on a lovely island somewhere under MI6
supervision, and replaced with Lazenby!Bond. Lazenby!Bond got married on his first mission - when his wife died, Lazenby!Bond lost his mind, and committed suicide. This was a fairly significant embarrassment for the 00 programme - the 007 identity was, hereafter, modified to include a marriage that ended in death, and the next operative, Moore!Bond, began training. Meanwhile, Connery!Bond is brought out of retirement for One Last Mission - the events of Diamonds Are Forever.
By then, the new and improved James Bond personality Mark II had been developed - the addition of his wife's death to the mix to psychologically bar him from developing deep personal relationships with women, and a less callous, more suave personality, emerged. Moore!Bond had a long and successful career with MI6
, but was physically aging - by the time of his final mission (the events of A View to a Kill) he was getting too old for the kind of missions expected of a 00.
There was a slight modification to the James Bond personality for the next 007 they imprinted, Dalton!Bond. It was the 80s by now, the cold war was visibly coming to a head, and they needed an agent more professional and combat-oriented for this difficult time. We see Dalton!Bond's first combat exercise in Gibraltar at the beginning of the Living Daylights. However, it wasn't long before Dalton!Bond went rogue, during the events of Licence To Kill, and set off on a personal vendetta. At the end of that film, M contacts him to say he has his job back - this is not the case. We never see Dalton!Bond again.
Immediately as Dalton!Bond goes rogue, they begin screening another candidate - Brosnan!Bond is created more along Moore!Bond lines to replace Dalton!Bond, and actually carries out his first mission (GoldenEye
pre-credits) during the 1980s, during the period that Dalton!Bond is rogue. Brosnan!Bond is later assigned to kill Dalton!Bond.
Around this time, the Cold War has ended, and MI6
has a bigger problem - rogue 00s. Dalton!Bond went off the rails, and before long, Bean!Trevelyan goes rogue too. There are problems with loyalty that need to be ironed out of the current batch of 00 personality imprints. Brosnan!Bond's career goes fairly swimmingly, with no major wobbles, until Die Another Day, when a mission goes awry, and he is captured. Upon his return. M suspends his 00 status and - surprise surprise, goes rogue. It doesn't help that the handler M sent to watch him (Miranda Frost, played by Rosamund Pike) turned out to be a mole. At the end of the film, Brosnan!Bond faked his death, and escapes with a whole chunk of unregistered blood diamonds.
While Brosnan!Bond was in captivity in North Korea, M helmed a review into the 007 personality. The result was the most major overhaul since the creation of the personality imprinted on Moore!Bond. More violent, more callous, and less suave and sophisticated than any Bond personality previously, but also, a hell of a lot more loyal.
Craig!Bond was hauled off to Skyfall, made to believe he was James Bond, and sent off to Casino Royale to deal with Le Chiffre. Of course, he falls in love with Vesper Lynd, the earliest-identified Achilles Heel of the Bond personality. She dies, and rather than killing himself like the Lazenby!Bond did, he swore himself to revenge - on MI6
's behalf, no less, a grave improvement in the personality from MI6
's point of view. The layer of impermeable suaveness did not develop properly, but Craig!Bond soldiered along, and in the events between Quantum of Solace and the start of Skyfall, was doing quite well as Bond. Of course, the opening of Skyfall happens, and he drops off the radar - but again, he comes back, where previous Bonds would have stayed gone. Of course, the conditioning is still not 100%. In the extreme trauma of his near-death experience, he subconsciously begins to realise that he is not James Bond - that it is an imprinted personality. On some level, he is aware of what has happened to him - attempting to numb the pain of that truth with alcohol and pills, like so many before him.
When he returns to duty, he is psychoanalysed to test this - during an otherwise routine word association exercise, the word Skyfall is dropped in, and Craig!Bond finally realises that his life is a lie.
However, he decides to continue upholding it anyway. The pivotal moment for Craig!Bond in Skyfall is when he pulls the bullet out of his shoulder - that night, he realises that, as a person, he's not real - but he decides to carry on in the mission. M knows that he has failed his evaluation, but puts him through anyway - she knows that he now knows the truth about himself.
The villain of Skyfall, Raoul Silva, is another 00, who, like Craig!Bond, has realised that the Raoul Silva personality is a lie, during the extreme trauma of his botched suicide attempt. However, unlike Craig!Bond, his loyalty to M is replaced with a strange mix of love and hatred for the figure he has imprinted on.
At the end, Craig!Bond chooses Skyfall because it is the only home he has ever known - the old Scottish building where he, like five others before him, lost the man he was before, only to take up the name of an automaton, a person created only for killing. His line, "I always hated this place," is typical Bondian understatement in these circumstances.
By the end, Craig!Bond has burned Skyfall to the ground, and knows the truth about the 00 programme. The M he was imprinted on is dead. Everything he does from here on in is his own choice. Until Skyfall is rebuilt, and Ralph Fiennes' M needs to replace him.
- It's worth noting that, in all likelihood, the men inducted into Skyfall were already promising members of MI-5 or the British military proper. Dedicated soldiers open to risk-taking would more readily volunteer for a mysterious "program" upon invitation from their superiors, even without full knowledge of what would be involved. It's also possible that at some point some person or persons within the American intelligence system got the bright idea to attempt to copy the success of this procedure with their own reprogrammed agents. Whereas Felix Leiter was merely a code name passed down, Jason Bourne was a fully realized identity.
There is one Bond and Brosnan Era takes place between Quantum of Solace and Skyfall.
This allows Bond to go from "earning his stripes" in Casino Royale/Quantum of Solace to "veteran" in Skyfall. The deaths of Solange, Vesper and Fields
are part of Janus' remarks about women he failed to save. Shortly after Skyfall, the Bond timeline matches up with Dr. No and From Russia with Love. From there, the series proceeds as seen in the original timeline, ending in Licence to Kill (which at some point will be passed by the present/future Bond movies).
- How would this theory explain the fact that each Bond is clearly set in the present day of its release year? The end of the Cold War is a significant part of the plot of GoldenEye, but in the timeline suggested here Bond would inexplicably move from the post-Cold War era to the Cold War era, Russia would turn back into the Soviet Union, technology level would suddenly regress, etc.
Daniel Craig's Bond will become the Connery of Never Say Never Again.
Not much to go on here other than Felix Leiter is African American in both. Craig seems to get more flack for his violent solutions similar to how the new M berated Bond's methods in NSNA.
- Since the Craig Bonds clearly take place in the 00s, and Never Say Never Again is clearly set in the 80s, how is this possible?
Brosnan Bond dies shortly after Die Another Day
Someone found him sleeping after sex in the temple and, outraged at the desecration, killed him. Daniel Craig's Bond is assigned the name and number as it has recently become available.
Daniel Craig's Bond killed Brosnan's Bond.
James Bond is the son of Rasputin
- So that would mean he was born in 1916 (the year Rasputin died) or earlier? I don't think he's that old...
- Instead of that then, James Bond is Rasputin (since he's a time lord) and is just one of his incarnations?
- The original novels state he was born in 1924 (He lied about his age to enlist in the Navy at age 17 in 1941).
A decoy sent by the real Blofeld to throw Bond off his trail. He knew the double would die. That was the point. It was a Deceased Fall-Guy Gambit
. With Bond thinking him dead, Blofeld has been free to use all the time since (Sliding Timescale
or not) to recover from his injuries, build S.P.E.C.T.R.E. back up, and plot his next scheme.
Future Bond Song Singers
List the singer, and then explain why they'd be chosen
Every quartermaster is from the Q Continuum.
Hence why each one is called "Q."
- So THAT'S where he gets all those wonderful toys...
Bond transfers his mind into new genetically engineered bodies every few years, because his old ones keep getting destroyed by STDs
Admit it, it makes sense.