Highlander II the Quickening was just a weird reality that Connor MacLeod made after he got the godlike power that the prize provided him.It explains quite a bit. The Prize was godlike power, and after becoming the last immortal, Connor essentially became a reality-warping deity who then changed the current world into a construct where anything he desired would come true. He wanted a world where he saves everyone by building a sun shield and so it occurred. Then after living in that fantasy for 25 years he got old and senile and then remade reality so that immortals are now from the planet Zeist. Connor longs for the days of his youth so he makes himself young and immortal again, and then conjures up some villains to fight such as General Katana, a construct of Connor's imagination given form through Connor's use of the Prize's power. He missed Ramirez so he brought him back as well. And there you have Highlander 2 explained.
- It makes a hell of a lot more sense than the film's actual "canon"...
- Seconded. If only he "imagined" the cast and crew were busy for the other films.
The Prize is based around what the winner wants. It's not an immutable prize. (So Connor gets what he wants, while The Kurgan would be able to live forever and rule the world.)
- Or, alternatively, the main part of the Prize (which is the ability to connect with and influence every mind in the world, as Connor explains at the end of the first film) is the same no matter who wins — Connor would use that power to help the world, while the Kurgan would use that power to rule the world. But in addition to that, the Prize also grants the winner their heart's desire — for Connor that's mortality and ability to have children; for the Kurgan that'd probably be something to make him even more powerful.
Connor was already immortal during the MacLeod/Frazer battle.There are two pieces of evidence. The first is that The Kurgan is trying to take Connor's head. All other evidence shows that this would have denied him a Quickening. Second is the fact that Connor felt The Kurgan's presence. He even told Ramirez that he'd felt it once before during that battle. While immortals can detect pre-immortals, the reverse is not true. Most likely Connor had recently died in some sort of accident while alone. He awoke believing he'd merely been unconscious for a time and was otherwise uninjured. He then went about his life until the day of the battle. It simply hadn't been long enough for him to have aged noticeably or sustain any injuries that would display rapid healing. It's even possible The Kurgan arranged the "accident" a few days before the battle.
- Or, rather, the first film did not have the "become immortal after first death" rule that later became canon. That is, Connor was always immortal, he just didn't know it until after he survived what should have been fatal wounds. This also goes a long way to explain the Scotland quickening scene with Connor and Ramirez.
The redneck in the first movie was becoming an Immortal.We see him driving around New York with a trunk full of guns, already odd behavior. He seems drawn to the alleyway where the Kurgan and Kastagir are fighting, and stands and watches with rapt attention, eventually trying to kill the Kurgan. In response, the Kurgan stabs the redneck (much like he had MacLeod) and throws him across the alley... but the man survives, and later tells the police that the doctors say he's healing faster than normal. Clearly, he was to become an Immortal. What effect the Gathering and the claiming of the Prize has on all this, who knows.
The prize can never be well and truly won.That is to say, that the "Prize" is to be the last immortal left, for now. In The Source, there is mention made of the first generation of immortals, with only two individuals left alive. So, the Prize is to survive long enough to train the first of the new generation of immortals. Could be that the Prize winner ages and dies eventually, or that one of the new generation of immortals takes his/her head, killing off the previous generation. With this, the Game can and will continue ad infinitum.
New immortals come from wasted quickenings.When an immortal loses his head at mortal hands or by accident, and in the absence of another immortal, the energy doesn't just disappear but instead gets diluted in the world population.
- This would mean that the Hunters were creating uncounted new Immortals, rather than reducing the power of The Prize
When Connor was banished from Zeist in Highlander 2 he was sent back in time and had his memory wiped.As the Spoony One explained at length in his review of Highlander 2, the whole "alien from the planet Zeist" thing opens up a metric fuckton of plotholes...unless you assume that when Connor, Ramirez, and all the other Immortals were banished from Zeist they were transported into Earth's distant past and had their memories wiped. Why? Well, obviously so they won't be able to pool their efforts and find a way to travel back to Zeist on their own. They won't have the knowledge to build a ship or a teleporter or whatever, and the technology available is too primitive anyway. If you think about it this solves a surprising number of plotholes. Why does Katana still look so young when Macleod is now an old man? Why does Katana send his minions to Earth to kill Macleod even though Macleod obviously had no intention of returning to Zeist? Why did Katana bother to go down and try to kill Macleod at all? Because from Katana's perspective, Macleod only just left Zeist.
- Sadly, this also provides explanation for many other plot holes. Katana is not the absolute ruler of Zeist, but he wants to be. The Priests held the trial and passed sentence as Katana looked on in frustration. Katana wanted Macleod dead as an act of defiance against the Priests, but could only send his two idiot goons instead of an army because he had to do it in secret or risk the Priests coming down on him. Katana didn't know that Macleod killing his henchmen would make him immortal again because the Priests didn't tell him.
- One of the alternate cuts of the film replaces "The Planet Zeist" with "The Distant Past," which more or less makes this "canon" (loathe though I am to use that word in relation to anything Highlander 2.) Whether making Immortals time-travellers instead of aliens is an improvement or not varies on your feelings.
- It doesn't really explain why the Macleod's having known Connor since childhood, unless there was de-aging or a mass memory manipulation at play.
Regarding Highlander - The Source: The Guardian is actually a time-travelling Edward Cullen.Well, it explains his super-speed.
- Not really. The Flash also has super speed, but I wouldn't go accusing him of being The Guardian. Also, Edward seems too stoic for that to be him.
If The Kurgan would have won, he would have become The God Emperor of mankind.Besides the fact that they are both depicted as very large men with flowing black hair, a variety of similarities are present 1. Ramirez says, about the Kurgan "If he wins the Prize, mortal man would suffer an eternity of darkness.", and humanity in 40k is in a fairly dark age. 2. when Connor wins the prize, he says "I feel everything! I know... I know everything! I am everything!" emplying that winning the prize is to make the winner a very powerful phychic, perhaps even the most powerful pychic of mankind. 3. The God Emperor of Mankind was said to be born in the second millenium B.C., which, given the Future imperfect history in 40k, is a fairly accurate estimate. That being said i could easily imagine one such as the Kurgan having many more than 20 sons in his life (though i would estimate that as the amount he would keep alive), though he would see him frightened by the realization that he is no longer immortal, but it turned out alright, because The Emperor is, for all intents and purposes,unable to die.
- The Primarchs are clones, remember?
- The iqnuisition would rather not mention that the God-Emperor was a rapist, so of course they cooked up a story to
- replace it, I mean,has the Imperium of Man ever made test-tube babies before or after the creation of the primarchs?
Winning the Game equates to becoming the Emperor of Warhammer 40k.The Emperor is canonically a sort of composite soul of Mankind's shamans. Presumably the canon version, a ritual in which they sacrificed themselves to form Emperor, is a metaphor or a misunderstanding of what really happened: they gave their lives to reincarnate as Immortals. They then duelled each other until there was the Only One.
At least one wandering immortal in Judeo-Christian folklore was really Methos.He seems to be as old as Western civilization, and according to The Other Wiki he has spent time in the Middle East, so he'd have had plenty of opportunity to inspire the legends of Cain or the Wandering Jew.
- On the other hand, there is no reason why it should be specifically Methos.
The Watchers are a division of the Watcher's Council from Buffy.Over time, the Watchers realized that not all immortals were vampires or demons, they were just ordinary humans. So the Council divided into two sections, one that remained devoted to the slayers, and one that studied immortals.
- And The Immortal in "The Girl In Question" was one of the HL guys.
- Perhaps they also moonlight as the Men of Letters in Supernatural.
The Kurgan was insane and believed that the Gathering was upon them. He was wrong.This accounts for the fact that there are way more immortals in the series than the four or so left before the start of the film. And remember that Connor didn't go after the Kurgan at all until he kidnapped Brenda. The Quickening at the end could've just been an exceptionally powerful one. And really, does the Kurgan seem like the sanest of people?
The Highlander universe takes place in a world with only Queen songs.An odd case where whenever a character in the film can hear the background music in a scene, it's always Queen. At the wrestling match, it's "Princes of The Universe". In the Kurgan's tape deck, "Gimme The Prize". In the bar where Connor meets Brenda, "One Year Of Love". On Kirk Matunas's car radio, "Hammer To Fall". Even when The Kurgan begins singing "New York, New York", what do we hear shortly after? Queen's cover of the same song.
- In the sequel, Connor turns on a jukebox to listen to "A Kind of Magic".
Methos was once the Light's Champion against Ahriman......but he failed, because Humans at that time had no philosophy that resembled the ones that got Macleod through his fight. The Earth entered a deep barbaric age, but the demon twisted the knife twice. He asked his own Champion what he should do with his fallen foe. Kronos responded, 'Make Him My Brother', and while this was done, Ahriman also erased both their memories and set them out to be mundane if legendary killers and reavers, rather than anything transcendent. Demons can be like that.
- If memory serves, the creators of The Source said it was all a really weird dream Duncan was having.
The Prize doesn't exist.Think about it, how would the immortals even know about it? Because they're "born" with that in mind or sense it ala "The Buzz"? If that were the case, wouldn't they also immediately know what's going on upon waking from their first death? Plus, with new immortals apparently being born all the time, could it ever truly end? Would the game being won keep those future immortals from being able to become immortal? What about the mortals who will become immortal upon their first death who are already around, will they now just die instead? Chances are, "The Prize" was just something made up by the first generation of immortals who wanted to believe that they could eventually live without worrying about being beheaded every day. Alternatively, as someone above said, The Prize is just a temporary thing. You can only be the winner until a dormant immortal finally has their first death, or if an immortal in some kind of stasis state comes out of it, like Kane in the third film.
- Why did they start cutting off heads, anyway? Chances are, the Prize was deduced from the effects of the Quickening. Kill one Immortal, gain their power, kill all of them, gain all the power. Appears to be a logical conclusion taken to a mythical extreme over the millennia.
There are immortal cavemen.We just don't know it because when they got their first Quickening from the more evolved species, they had an "Evolution Quickening," kinda like the Dark Quickening in season five. That, and they've probably all lost their heads by the 1900 anyway.
What happens if a dormant immortal takes a head before their first death.If a dormant immortal who has yet to experience their first death takes the head of an active immortal, then instead of having the Quickening not manifest or fade away like when a normal mortal takes a head, it will strike them and end up causing their first death, thus turning them immortal. Though, as we saw in one episode of The Raven, this would only happen if a true immortal was not in range. Additionally, if a dormant immortal is killed via beheading, by another dormant immortal or true immortal, there will be no Quickening because, for all intents and purposes, they never became a true immortal. Basically, you don't need to be out of dormancy to receive a Quickening, but you do need to be immortal to have one occur upon your beheading. On a mostly unrelated note, in order for an immortal to get a "free" Quickening, they need to be close enough to experience "The Buzz" off of that immortal.
- Alternatively, a Quickening still occurs, it's just an extremely weak one since the dormant immortal has only lived a few decades at most (and not killed anyone else to collect their power), making dormant immortals terrible targets barely worth the effort except by the most evil and desperate of immortals (like the Kurgan).
Immortals CAN regenerate severed body parts.Think about it. How careful would immortals have to be to not lose any appendages during centuries or millenia of existence? These beings regularly engage in sword fights, fall off buildings, in addition to all the other mundane accidents that happen to normal people. Methos should have looked like a quadruple amputee by now. Duncan in one episode allows himself to be blown up to kill Hitler. Yet Xavier Saintcloud is the only immortal we saw with a severed limb from his previous battle with Duncan, and every single immortal we've seen has all their limbs and body parts intact, not even missing a few fingers. In one episode Amanda was joking with Duncan that they could jump off the Eiffel Tower and they would be fine. A fall like that would splatter their bodies at worst or in the very least sever some limbs, and yet Duncan only concern was that it would hurt. My theory is that immortals can regenerate limbs and heal any injury; it just takes a lot longer for their bodies to make the new marrow, nerves and bone to make the new limb, in the same way they regenerate the new skin and muscle tissue to heal their wounds. It might also depend on the age and power of the Immortal, and how large the limb is. A severed finger could be grown back in a few months or years, but a whole hand could takes decades. Saintcloud's hand hadn't grown back because either too little time had passed, Xavier wasn't old or powerful enough to speed up the process, or the prosthetic limb he had in place was perhaps interfering with the regrowing, or a combination of all three.