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Ancestry Of The PredaconsMegatron: Megatron Scorponok: Soundwave or Scorponok Tarantulas: Mixmaster Terrorsaur: Starscream Waspinator: Shrapnel Blackarachnia: Arcee Inferno: Inferno Quickstrike: Sixshot
Ancestry Of The MaximalsOptimus Primal: Optimus Prime Rattrap: Hot Rod/Arcee Rhinox: Ratchet Cheetor: Bumblebee Dinobot: Grimlock Tigatron: Beachcomber Airazor: Powerglide Silverbolt: Silverbolt Depth Charge: Seaspray
Rhinox is actually Optimus Prime, just reformatted into a different body.So, Optimus, sometime after the creation of Rampage, realizes that the Maximals are in many ways no better than the Decepticons and decides just to leave. Instead of killing himself, he simply gets a new body at the same time everyone else on Cybertron is getting one and starts a new life from there. This would explain his excellent leadership abilities and his very spiritual nature. It also leads up to his eventual betrayal in "Beast Machines". It's not that he hates organics, but more that he is tired of the violence and war that has plagued his race since their creation. He believes that he is the best to do this because he is Optimus Prime, the one and only.
The Decepticon Ravage sacrificed himself in Beast Wars not out of loyalty to his former commander Megatron, but to his pre-Cybertronian Wars Autobot friend Nightstalker.Beast Wars is based on no one version of the G1 continuity. One issue of the European G1 comics showed Ravage, Optimus Prime, and Megatron before the dawn of the Great Wars, with Ravage the protector of the last planetary leader, with an Autobot counterpart named Nightstalker. Nightstalker sacrificed himself to ensure his lord lived, but Ravage let the old 'bot die, believing Megatron to be the planet's best chance for surviving the oncoming war. Ravage's death for Megatron's cause in Beast Wars is painfully identical to that of Nightstalker, and a comment by Magmatron in a Beast Wars comic hints that Ravage's first and foremost allegiance was to himself, a sentiment proven viable by his abandonment of his old Cassettacon comrades after their Predacon rebuild to become an agent for the Tripredacus Council, whom they were opposed to. Hence, the most likely reason for Ravage to sacrifice himself for his lord would be to make up for his betrayal of his friend so many millennia ago.
"The Great Upgrade" in BW Era is just first step in Cybertronian and Humanity merging as a speciesFirst off, let's start with reason for each races. Humanity: They wanted to expand from Earth, but lack serious technology and their fleshling selve are bit fragile in deepspace. Cybertronian: With the civil war and all, they found out that their species is dying en masse. They still have the need to revive Cybertron that require massive amount of energon, but at the same time, they needed the scarce energon to sustain themselves. So, with the reason established, each race develops a method to merge with each other. Cybertronian, seeing that human's anatomy conserved much more energy and simply more nimble, decide to upgrade themselves by downsizing the overall size into normal humanoid size shedding the large frame. Human, also in a way, upgrade themselves to this form. But one question remain, the universe at large is largely organic lifeform. In the event of energon absence or depletion, they need to sustain themselves with organic material(i.e eating organic matter). Thus they begun the techno-organic project. This particular project's aim is to integrate Hardiness of metal technology and the organic diversity. As the project almost come to completion, Predacon/Decepticon faction decide that they like staying metal, and sabotage the project, destroying all the tech-org goop on Cybertron. Since all of humanity is either converted to metal or willingly turn themselves into tech-org material, the source of that project is lost aside from the record of humanity's origin, the Golden Disk featured in BW-era.
Blackarachnia gained telekinetic powers during her Transmetal II upgrade due to her mind link with Tarantulas.Every other Transmetal II-upgraded Transformer in Beast Wars has enhanced abilities and precisely one new power: the power to use their spark to heal themselves. Blackarachnia had not shown any sort of psychic/ferrokinetic power before her upgrade, and the only instance of her coming into contact with psychic powers is when she mind-linked with Tarantulas. While telepathy is not telekinesis, they are both psychic powers, and are often grouped together in fantasy and Super Hero comics. Therefore, one logical explanation is that the residual effects of the mind link were enhanced in the upgrade, to telekinetic proportions.
Scorponok and Terrorsaur are alive.As has been said before: Transformers and lava, don't get me started.
Rampage wanted Depth Charge to kill him all along.After all, he was designed to be immortal, and even if he hadn't wound up twisted and monstrous and kept under lock and key, Rampage probably could figure out the downsides of living forever. Hence, when opportunity presented itself, Rampage directed his cruelty towards Depth Charge (it's already been established that Rampage has went on killing sprees where Depth Charge was present at least twice, and didn't kill Depth Charge either time) in the hopes that, wracked by grief and vengefulness, the Maximal would find a way to end Protoform X's theoretically-eternal life.
Depth Charge was suicidal.On the flip side, it's possible that Depth Charge's survivor's guilt lead to him seeking his own destruction. He was always going off by himself and taking on dangerous missions. Note that he didn't hesitate to kill himself in order to off Rampage.
The Maximal Elders are just as fanatical as the Predacons.They've deemed Earth and other key G1 historical sites off-limits to everyone, keep historical records and information tightly controlled, experiment on their own citizens, and have a "separate but equal" racist standing with the "lower class" Predacons, the first three the Predacon ruling class has to our knowledge haven't done yet. Clearly, the Elders are so paranoid about another Great War that they're perfectly happy with Jumping Off the Slippery Slope and becoming tyrants themselves. Sure, the Preds are planning a rebellion, but at least they're smart enough (mostly) to bide their time and use the Pax Cybertronia to build up their resources without incident. They even genuinely oppose BW Megs' plans to use the Golden Disk to force Pred rule, which shows that they're not as "evil" and power-hungry as they seem.
The Maximals left on prehistoric Earth eventually became the Battle Beasts.It was never confirmed that the destruction of the Planet Buster nuked all of the stasis pods (and, in fact, with the discovery of Silverbolt and Quickstrike, Primal specifically orders Airazor and Tigatron to scout for more intact protoforms), so it's very likely that they cracked open into new Maximals and Predacons that were left on Earth when the Beast Wars were over. Of course, as shown in Beast Machines, it would take millions of years for them to get back to Cybertron on their own power, but there's still a lot of scrap left over from three ships (the Axalon, the Darksyde, and Ravage's stealth ship) to make their own sub-transwarp ship. It's possible that, if they left Earth, they ended up on another planet instead of Cybertron. Plus, there's the fact that the Battle Beasts are anthropomorphic Earth animals, decked out with cybernetics somewhat similar to Cybertronian technology, and the fact that their factions are broken up for the most part into the mammals and birds versus reptiles and insects (the same species split the Maximals and Predacons had during the Beast Wars), and you can pretty much connect the dots from there.
All of the Arthropod-based Predacons are Actually FemaleWhy? Because of the simple fact that their Beast Modes are female. Waspinator is a wasp with a stinger, which means that he's not a Drone, and therefore female. Inferno is a soldier ant, and also therefore female. Tarantulas has a larger rounded abdomen, and Rampage has big claws, both of which are telltale signs of sexual dimorphism among Arthropods. Scorponok and Quickstrike... well, honestly, does anyone even care either way? Granted, they don't have female personalities, but, being robots, there's no reason why their personality or even their physiology needs to line up with their gender.
Tarantulus was a Quintesson (or one of their agents).Think about it: they'd have plenty of good reasons to want to off both Autobot and Decepticon while not being descended from them. They have a vested interest in reclaiming Cybertron (former Quintessonian factory). They hate the Transformers (they Turned Against Their Masters). They're sadistic perverts (watch The Movie). And not being gods or Sufficiently Advanced Aliens, they can't just do stuff through sheer will. Megatron's "Unicron's Spawn" was just an insult.
Maximal/Predacon bodies are descended from Micromaster and Pretender technology.Pretenders were the first Transformers to have an externally-organic appearance. Over time, one can assume this technology was improved, going from an outer shell to an integrated part of the robot. Micromasters, meanwhile, are smaller, more fuel-efficient Cybertronians; with energy sources being the main source of conflict in the original series, having everyone take on such forms may have been not just a strategic decision, but a life-and-death necessity.
Megatron's plot to destroy Optimus Prime while in stasis would have spelled doom for both races.When the original Megatron put out the Golden Discs, he wouldn't have known about Unicron, so when Unicron finally decided to destroy Cybertron, there would have been no Matrix to stop him. So, BW Megatron's attempt to Screw Destiny would have resulted in a short-lived (from the perspective of Immortal Robots) victory for the Decepticons. Nice Job Breaking It Villain.
Starscream's files were covered up because of Protoform X.The Maximal elders only allowed the information that Starscream was immortal so they could justify making the spark. They conveniently left out the part where he was treacherous so they could got forward with the experiment, maybe in the hopes of capturing Starscream's original scientist persona back before the Great War.
Waspinator was manufactured by Acme.Recipient (and survivor) of a great many Amusing Injuries? Check. Perpetual Butt Monkey? Double check. It explains so much.
Megatron and Dinobot were more than just comrades-in-arms.Given the vast differences between their personalities and belief-systems, it isn't immediately obvious why Dinobot would have joined the Predacons; Tarantulas was there for his enigmatic 'missions,' Waspinator and Terrorsaur because they were easily cowed, Scorponok was dead loyal to Megatron, but Dinobot was there because he and Megatron jointly founded the expedition, a plan which grew out of their relationship. The reason why Dinobot ditched back in episode 1-1 is because at that point they were already in conflict, philosophically and because Megatron — with his 'anything for the cause' attitude — wasn't remaining exclusive. Probably with Scorponok, hence why he was the first to blast Dinobot. This explains the Megatron images in Dinobot's computer (more specifically, the speed with which he clicks it shut when he's disturbed; c'mon, you know the feeling) and Megatron's repeated Dinobot clones. When you can't be with the one you love, make inexplicable copies of him. The reason why Dinobot defected back in Maximal, No More wasn't really the whole 'clash of honor' thing, it was the fact that Inferno's behavior towards Megatron meant that, once more, Megatron wasn't exactly pining. I hope you're happy, Jay.
Dinobot joined Megatron's crew knowing he himself would die.There can be little doubt Dinobot knew he was going to die a few episodes before he did, from the lengthy speeches to uploading a copy of himself and even confirmation from his VA: According to McNeil, Dinobot knew he was going to die five episodes before he did, as right up until the last second, he believed Dinobot to only be "cartoon dead" as opposed to "dead dead". However, what if Dinobot knew from the beginning that he was fated to die by sacrificing himself to save humans on earth, and THAT was the reason he join Megs, in order to test his fate himself. This could be a reason behind his berserker and at times suicidal nature. This, in addition to Dinobot's knowledge of Megatron's plans to disrupt history on Earth (RT: "Where have you been, out saving the universe?" DB: "Possibly", (paraphrasing) DB: "Your plan proceeds", "Megatron is near a great victory", "Your plans will destroy all who came before", etc) adds fuel to the fire when Dinobot confronts Megatron about being on the wrong planet in the first episode, the need to defeat him at any cost, and later, Dinobot's obsession with fate and the need to be the master of it ("For I could not live if not the master of my own fate!").
Tarantulas wasn't worried about the meddling with the Ark not just because his origin lies with Unicron, but because he's not even from this universe.Before he reformatted into a Predacon, Tarantulas was a universe hopping motorcycle by the name of Sideways.
Waspinator is immortalWhile all Transformers are hard to kill, Waspinator is on a whole other level. He gets mangled and dismembered worse than even Rampage, and late series he stops even bothering with stasis lock. Waspinator doesn't automatically self repair like Rampage, but neither did Starscream.
The same thing which happened to the Maximals could have happened to the Predacons as well.I'm talking about the episode Call of the Wild, where Megatron and co. stole the Energon Dampener from the Axalon, making the base vulnerable to the energon, and thus, forcing the Maxies to remain in Beast mode until the wilderness of their beast modes take control of their system. Dinobot (a Pred working with the Maxies) was affected as well. Dinobot was a Pred. A pure Pred. Even when he worked with the Maxies. So... both Maximals and Predacons are vulnerable to all the same things.
Tarantulus infected Megatron with a virus that turned him into a Manchurian Agent...on behalf of Tarantulus' master, Unicron. The trigger, of course, was returning to Cybertron, and the action was a feeling of hatred for organics and to wipe out the population. Unicron wanted the initial plan- assasinating the Matrix-bearer at his weakest- to succeed, but on the off-chance it didn't, wanted a backup plan that would result in Cybertron (and thus Primus) being rendered defenseless. Megatron and the Maximals taking him to justice were actually just Unwitting Pawns. This is why his behavior changed so drastically in Beast Machines. godhood. However, he still was a rogue, a Neutral Evil madman with Chaotic Evil tendencies. However, when he broke free of his bonds during the Transwarp journey to cybertron and landed earlier than his captors, he was able to use his manipulative talents, significant Transmetal 2 powers (Optimal powers, perhaps?), and his lust for ultimate power to take over Cybertron, with the help of his engineered plagues. As he plotted his future vision of Cybertron, it became less and less chaotic, less organic, more concerned with order and perfection. Thus, Beast Machines Megatron was no different from Beast Wars Megatron. Just older.
The episode The Low Road has a Meaningful Name......and it was on purpose. Just think... Dinobot and Rattrap going on a subway road to retrieve a spark... and then... Rhinox and his fueled Weapon of Gas Destruction.
Dinobot is descended from the DinobotsFirst of all, that's where he got that name from. It was passed down, not because he was going to pick a dinosaur form on Earth. Secondly, that's why he had so much honor and courage despite being a Predacon. However, he did have some Decepticon ancestry, thus explaining why he wasn't fully good until his death, and why he was a Predacon to begin with.
Dinobot is descended from StarscreamIt's the helmets◊, mostly◊- Dinobot's helmet has smaller vents on the side and fins on top, but it also has the cheek guards and the ridges on top. And the Transformers universe being what it is, a Megatron is bound to have a Starscream as second in command.
Dinobot (II) is still alive.This isn't even a wild guess. Think about it, when the Nemesis went down Dinobot still had half of a mutant immortal spark inside of him. Short of having a chunk of raw energon thrust into it I don't see how he could have NOT survived.
Rubber Ducky was, in fact, a Predacon, and was The Man Behind the Man giving instructions to Megatron.He was smart enough to want to not be known, which is why he faked non-sapience whenever there was a chance of being seen or heard; Megatron consulted with him and recieved orders and strategy offscreen. He was also the level-headed sane one of the group, explaining why Megatron went completely off the deep end in Beast Machines- without his boss giving him orders, he had to rely on his own prejudices and intellect. This is also why Megatron was so good at manipulating, keeping tabs on, and seeing through the plans of the other Predacons- the real one in charge was small enough and unassuming enough to be a perfect spy, and he simply figured out how to turn what he saw to his favor, and relayed that to his figurehead.
Beast Megatron was planning to take G1 Megatron's place in history after destroying the Ark.He was already carrying G1 Megatron's spark so his personal ancestry would have been protected from the timestorm made by the Ark's destruction. He would then travel back to Cybertron in the Nemesis without time traveling and take command of the Deceptacons during the Great War. Using his knowledge of history and the lack of Optimus Prime, Megatron would quickly end the Great War long before the events of G1. Then Megatron would prepare Cybertron to defend against Unicron, which Megatron also knows is coming. After that Megatron would recreate the beast wars in order to complete a Stable Time Loop that would maintain his control over Cybertron.
Cybertron was experiencing an Energon shortage when Megatron stole the Golden Disk.It's canon that Maximal and Predacon forms were designed to be more fuel-efficient than Autobots and Deceptacons, which shows that the leaders of Cybertron anticipated a shortage of Energon. Exploration ships like the Axalon would have been paid a finder's fee for any Energon deposits discovered, which is why Rattrap signed up for exploration. Current Energon reserves were being severely rationed on Cybertron to the point where any promise of more Energon would be enough for Megatron to recruit a crew. When the Axalon disappeared the Maximals only sent unmanned probes to search for it, which used minimal amounts of Energon. The Tripredicus Council assumed Megatron had already found Energon and built refineries for it so they sent Ravage without enough Energon to get back and expected him to refuel there. Had the Vok not destroyed most of the Energon on Earth the planet would have become the Middle East of Transformers.
The Beast Wars are responsible for bringing the Great War to Earth.The Planet Buster came within seconds of destroying the Earth with no evidence of temporal disturbances, which means the Ark hadn't arrived yet. The Ark detected the transwarp wave and came to Earth to investigate the origin of it, where it was promptly shot down by the Nemesis before any scans could be made.
The Vok are the Ultimate evolution of the Spiral Races.The Vok's goal is stated in the expanded universe to be guiding other species to higher evolutionary levels. Despite their... odd methods of ensuring success, they may be attempting an all-out war against the Anti-Spirals. That, and they seem to select "heralds" of their own to restore order AND allow all beings in the universe to live peacefully without the Anti-Spirals threatening to kill them. Swindle was right; they really ARE nice creatures.
The Insecticons from G1 gained their beast modes and amnesia due to Tarantulas's attempts to alter the past.When the Insecticons first appeared in the original Transformers cartoon there were several questions regarding their origin that were never answered. They apparently came from a Decepticon escape pod that had been jetisoned from the Nemesis, and after some prompting from Megatron, seemed to vaguely recognize him and their faction but they lacked any concrete memories of their past. Also, their alternate forms were capable of digesting organic matter and turning it into energon, an ability that is treated by the Decepticons as being unique. We know that Tarantulas was working to rebuild the Nemesis. It's possible that during his search for the ship he discovered the Insecticons and sought to repair them using technology from his time period, hence why the Insecticons have beast modes and are able to convert organic matter into energon, an ability that the Maximals and Predacons have been alluded to have. (We have seen them eating in beast modes on several occasions, and in "The Low Road" Primal outright told an infected Rhinox to eat something in order to keep his energy levels up.) Tarantulas also sought to alter their minds to serve him, perhaps with a Predacon shell program, but due to differences between past and current Transformers technology, which had previously been seen when Teletraan-1's shielding failed to interface with technology from the Axalon in "Go With the Flow," the shell program failed and instead wiped the Insecticons' minds.
Rhinox wasn't as nice as he seemedHe was just acting so nice because he was stuck in a situation where his personal opinions weren't relevant. Notice just how evil he became in "Dark Designs", then also notice just how little Blackarachnia's personality changed when her programming changed from Predacon to Maximal. Was it the reprogramming that made him so nasty or was it merely an excuse? We've seen that Maximals are not inherently good, Quickstrike was never reprogrammed and was a sadistic monster and even Rattrap was quite a selfish jerk a lot of the time. In the fifth episode, after Optimus was absorbed by an alien probe, the Maximals vote between Rattrap and Dinobot as new leader, a vote that somehow ended up a tie. Both bots clearly voted for themselves and Cheetor was far too optimistic to vote in favor of Dinobot's harsh, merciless methods which would mean that Rhinox was the one that voted in favor of Dinobot. He's also the one that insists that the vote was secret after Rattrap demands to know who voted for Dinobot, with Cheetor showing no reaction to the accusation. Notice how after Optimus' death Rhinox asserts leadership with pure force? It would place his characterization in Beast Machines as him merely saying "Screw it" to playing nice as their world was slagged anyway.
Predafied Rhinox was still working for the MaximalsThe tech used to convert him was described as increasing his aggression. But aggression is not the same as loyalty. Rhinox was still loyal to Optimus, but he was playing along with Megatron's plans. To better screw him.
The Megatron named in the Covenant of Primus was Megatronus Prime, The FallenThe "-us Prime" suffix was removed to represent his Fall. The Hero who would not win but would not surrender was one of the other Primes, as was the Mighty Warrior with the rainbows. The great mountain rising from the sea refers to a hidden unicronian ship underneath the Sea of Rust on Cybrertron, and the bit about "they who live and war as beasts" was just it being derrogatory about unircronian followers acting cruder and being doomed to death at the hands of righteous bots. The similarities are just coincidence, or Primus intentionally making the thing apply to multiple events- the Beast Wars aren't the last circumstances it will describe eerily as history repeats over and over.
Cheetor was a grad studentIts easy to forget, but the Axiom was a research vessel, and the crew of four active (Optimus, Rhinox, Rattrap, and Cheetor) were scientists. That's easy to believe for Optimus and Rhinox, and Rattrap may not have the personality, but he is clever and intelligent enough, just socially crude. Cheetor, however, has the personality and intelligence of a child, especially compared to the other three. What is somebody young and naive doing on a research vessel? He's obviously a graduate student coming along to do basic grunt work, learn about whatever they were working on by experience, and maybe write a basic thesis about it.
Tarantulas was not a Spawn of Unicron. He was actually a Paradronian
The Maximal and Predicon symbols are based on the leaders at the time of the Great UpgradeThey had to come from somewhere.
Waspinator was responsible for the Great UpgradeAfter the Beast Wars, Waspinator took The Slow Path back but still wound up on Cybertron before the Great Upgrade. After being studied for a while the data collected was used to create the Great Upgrade.
Optimus Primal has a minor case of Primus ApotheosisPrimus Apotheosis is mentioned as a mental illness that causes certain Autobots to imitate Optimus Prime. In any case, it would certainly explain his similarities with Optimus if he was deliberately trying to emulate him. Another symptom of PA is "sacrificing one's life at the earliest opportunity"; and Primal managed to do that TWICE.
Rattrap used to be a DecepticonSpecifically the Cybertron's series Ransack. Now hear this troper out. If we WMG that Cybertron and Beast Wars/Machines (and G1 by extension) take place in the universe or that the Transformers have inter-dimensional travel, then this could work. After Cybertron, perhaps the Decepticon escapees-despite their initial goal-go their separate ways. Ransack begins to really see the destruction that he and the other Decepticons cause. Eventually he meets back up with Thundercracker (he was all ready to change sides-albeit to be on the winning side for once-in the last Cybertron episode and is kidnapped by his old teammates when they left) who is now an Autobot. Ransack ends up seeing the light a bit and changes his name and takes on Autobot programming and loathing his past life and what he had done making him very cynical. He joins Primal's crew and makes another name change, which would make it very hard for say Crumplezone to find him again. Through Dinobot, he learns that not all Decepticons/Predacons are destruction bringers.
Tarantulas and the Tripredacus Council are descended from the G2 CybertroniansThe "Unicron's spawn" line was a generic insult, not a specific statement about Tarantulas' origins. Tarantulas states that under their rule "Cybertron will conquer the universe," which contradicts a Unicronian origin since Unicron's goal was to devour Cybertron. This also causes an issue for pretty much every other origin theory, since the only known means for defeating Unicron (the Matrix) would be destroyed with the Ark (or, even if it survived the explosion, useless without a Prime to open it), resulting in Cybertron's destruction rather than its supremacy. However, the G2 Cybertronians considered the planet itself unimportant, claiming that they themselves were Cybertron, so by their thinking Cybertron could still conquer the universe even if the actual world was gone. Granted, they would still have the Swarm to deal with, but they were easily conceited enough to believe that they could defeat or evade it.
Dinobot's return through Dinobot IIIf you don't take the deleted plan of Rattrap's interference into account, it still begs the question of how Dinobot II seemed to turn personality wise into Dinobot I after Rampage's death. Here's this Troper's thought. Dinobot II and Rampage share the same Spark. When Rampage died, his half of the Spark went to the Well of All-Sparks/Matrix. Since half remained in the living world with Dinobot II, for a brief moment the Spark halves formed a link between the world of the living and the dead. It was through this temporary connection that Dinobot I's Spark, and thus his memories, reached out to his clone which left an imprint on his otherwise blank slate.
The Gobots exist in the same universe as the Maximals and Predacons.Just as the smaller, fuel efficient Maximals "evolved" from the Autobots, the humans altered themselves. They heavily augmented their bodies with cybernetics, until they resembled their former protectors. Then, the human race began colonizing the stars, eventually settling on Gobotron.