WMG: A Goofy Movie
Roxanne and Max are still together, but at separate universities.With all of the trouble the writers put Max through in the first movie so Roxanne would even consider dating him, they probably didn't want to cheaply undo that just for the sequel. That's why they had P.J. hook up with the beatnik and Goofy hook up with the librarian instead.
- But in Mickey's Twice Upon a Christmas Max comes home from college with his girlfriend, Mona.
- This makes sense, especially since Roxanne does make an appearance on House of Mouse on a date with Max, seen here.
- That's because Max is still in high school in House of Mouse.
- I submit that Max(, Donald's nephew and anyone under the proper age grade) has some involuntary time travel powers considering how they handle them throughout the various universes.
- I'd like to think that maybe they did date for a while in high school, realized they weren't meant for each other, but remained friends anyway and still hang out during breaks from college. Boring yes, but such is life. It would be nice for Disney to do a friendship like that without pairing everyone with just one love interest.
- That'd make perfect sense. I mean, obviously if they were still dating, there's no reason why Max would be flirting with the attractive cashier midway through the movie. Max is actually visibly attracted to many beautiful women in the entire film, throwing out the possibility of him and Roxanne dating out the window.
- That's because Max is still in high school in House of Mouse.
- Replace dying with a divorce/separation and it works as well.
Roxanne dumped Max (or vice versa)That explains Mona and her lack of appearing beyond House of Mouse. Not soon after that appearance, they broke up. It's not like high school sweethearts always stay together anyway; very few do, you move on to new people.
Pete and Peg got divorcedPeg got fed up with Pete's money-grubbing schemes and demanded a divorce, taking Pistol with her and leaving PJ with Pete. Most likely why Pete's Jerk Ass meter went up in this movie.
Stacey's popularityI've come up with a number of explanations for why Stacey is popular despite her geeky appearance:
- She throws awesome parties (the most likely explanation)
- Her being friends with Roxanne elevates her coolness level (though we never get any indication that Roxanne is popular)
- Max makes her look much cooler by comparison (the funniest explanation)
Mickey's Twice Upon a Christmas takes place in a different continuity from these moviesThose movies don't look Goof Troop canon so why would Roxanne exist and/or be with Max?
- Possibly averted since Once Upon A Christmas seems to be a Goof Troop prequel
- What makes this more likely isn't the lack of Roxanne—Max was clearly single in college anyway, unless he was cheating—but the lack of Sylvia. Also, Once Upon a Christmas appears to be a similar but inexact continuity to Goof Troop given that Pete appears to be single and without children (hard evidence) and that Max and Goofy already live in his neighborhood (soft evidence).
PJ never went home to visit. Not even once.This is related to my WMG on the Classic Disney Shorts page explaining why he didn't become a Canon Immigrant with Max, but... just within the Goof Troop universe itself, it seems abundantly clear that PJ is much happier immediately after leaving his house. Max says "see you at Christmas" to Goofy; no such line is delivered to Pete. Pete is Demoted to Extra more and more, only appearing in two scenes—three if you count one flashback to an earlier scene. The only interaction they have in the entire movie is in the first scene, and it's more-or-less indirect. And the movie ends with PJ, happily talking openly to his new beautiful girlfriend in the background of Max and Goofy having a father/son bond. It seems obvious that PJ's happy ending can only exist in a world without Pete. (This is assuming as fact that Peg and Pistol were split by divorce, and that he went to visit them occasionally.)
PJ followed Max to college on purpose.Considering how long their relationship has lasted, the fact that Max was for a long time the only friend PJ ever had, and his homelife, PJ probably considers Max the closest thing to a supportive family he has. Additionally, when Max threatened to transfer, PJ, who had already gone through his Character Development, became very frantic, panicky, and upset—a relapse. Max was part of PJ's safety and security once he left home.
Goofy didn't finish college because of MaxGoofy does not seem like a lazy student as he studied hard and got good grades in the movie, so why did he only complete 3 years of school? Because his girlfriend/wife got pregnant and he had to drop out in order to get a job to support them.
- Truth in Television. Many people who don't finish college due to extenuating life circumstances return to finish their degrees years or even decades later out of a sense of obligation.
Kimmy (Goofy's photo baby) is Roxanne's sister.They have similar head shapes and noses (in a universe where that means a lot). Further, we only ever see Roxanne's father, and likewise, only Kimmy's mother.
Max at some point in his adulthood changes his name to George GeefIt could be that his embarrassment of his father got worse, it could be that Max got in trouble with the mob (and ended up with his ears chopped off). Either way, the fact that Max looks like the George Geef version of Goofy suggests that there may be more than a mere shout out or gag.
Max and Roxanne broke up because Roxanne's dad is a Child-Basher Basher.He thinks the innocence of childhood should be protected at all costs. While strange boys who come to see his daughter get growls and glares, people who treat their own children badly get to meet his fists. Well, after Max's best friend's dad and girlfriend's dad met, the former gave Max a Sadistic Choice—either break up with the girl or never see his best friend again. Max reasoned 1) his best friend needs him more, and 2) they'd known each other longer, and made his decision.
After An Extremely Goofy Movie ends, Team 99 pursue completely different majors.One thing that makes this group so interesting is their different intelligence talents, but unfortunately this is ultimately leading them down different paths. Max is a business major, putting to use his charisma and ambition for something more. Bobby is a computer science major, putting to use his tech-savviness. PJ is an English major, putting to use his talent with words. And then they have incompatible schedules in different parts of campus for three years, barely getting to see each other.
Powerline paid Goofy, Max, and PJ's tuitions.Powerline was so impressed by Goofy and Max's impromptu stage entrance and dance (especially since, as he's a performance artist, his fans ate it up), he asked if he could do anything to repay them and explained that money was no object to him. Max asked if he'd be willing to pay tuition to him and "an underprivileged kid." Powerline quickly agreed and handed them his contact information, knowing nothing else about PJ or his circumstances. Meanwhile, Goofy's tuition was requested to be added to the bill by Max, and again Powerline quickly agreed. Bradley never knew they had a famous benefactor. Bobby did, and he was jealous.
Max lied.It does not take three and a half cups of sugar to get to the moon.
- You, eh, you counted that?
Powerline is related to Max and GoofyGoofy said that the perfect cast had been handed down through the family for generations, and it's pretty random, so how else could Powerline have managed to do it after only having seen part of it? He's a distant cousin of Goofy's.
Goofy's Aesop Amnesia caused the trouble in the sequel, not Max'sThe movie begins with Max stating that Goofy is embarrassing but well meaning and is overall much more accepting and considerate to Goofy than in the first movie but is still excited to go out and start carving his own path in life. He is then quite understandably upset at Goofy's arrival at college, mostly how he arrived, but once he has a chance to listen to the situation he seems entirely reasonable about the whole thing and gets his father to agree to some ground rules about respecting his independence. Goofy immediately forgets the whole conversation and begins babying Max and interfering heavily in his college life. Max didn't forget the lessons he learned in the first movie (he is much more patient and understanding with his father and tries to talk to him about any problems) Goofy did (First movie: Max - ...I have my own life. Goofy - I know that, I just want to be a part of it.) and Max is rightly upset about that.
- Quite a good point, still a couple of facts hint that neither Max is fully innocent: in the entire beginning scene, he's apparently oblivious to his father's melanchony, even if, at his current age, and especially after the events of the prior movie, he should be mature enough to acknowledge Goofy's feeling. But no, he even smiles wider and wider at the idea of "not coming back home so soon"! That's mean! I could think it's a "misunderstanding gag", if some moments earlier I wouldn't have hearded Max saying Goofy is "well-meaning but embarassing" (in this order). It makes quite clear what Max thinks is more important. Also, come on, did he really expect a videogame as a present for an occasion so solemn like the start of his college life?! Clearly, he's still 13 in his own mind. Let's skip all what happens at university because there, well, yeah, it's pretty much everything done by Goofy, and go to the final scene. After a heartwarming dialogue between the two, Max ruins the moment suddenly taking a hurried tone while he says: "But now it's over, and it's time for everyone to live their own life..." making the viewer think -again- that he doesn't give a shit about Hidden Depths and he's just concerned to being as far as possible from his father. The amnesia, in the end, is shared by both.
The sequel takes place in a world where the events of the first film never happenedA Goofy Movie ends with both Max and Goofy coming to an understanding about each other after their road trip, leading to them growing closer together. As the above WMG points out, when An Extremely Goofy Movie starts they're both fairly distant. So perhaps in this universe Max didn't have the courage to go through with the Powerline skit to impress Roxanne, which resulted in him getting in trouble, which resulted in the road trip, which resulted in him becoming friendlier with his dad, which resulted in him having the courage to tell Roxanne the truth and ultimately get together with her. Instead he goes to Stacey's end of the year party alone, never gets together with Roxanne, and over the next few years hangs out more with P.J. and Bobby while growing distant from his father (and possibly getting into extreme sports as a way to "rebel"). This time away leads him to the conclusion that his father, although embarrassing, is still well-meaning, while his father grows more clingy because he himself had no chance to grow by experiencing the new things that Max showed him on the road trip, and is instead stuck hanging out with his poisonous (and only real) friend Pete, who keeps on feeding him bad advice. By the time the second film starts, Max can't wait to get on with his life and Goofy is more depressed than ever about his son leaving him for good.
Roxanne and Max are just taking a break.Someone on Youtube considered this, and as a fellow Max/Roxanne shipper myself, I thought, 'Why not?' Perhaps when it was time to go to college, Max and Roxanne took a break, because not only would they be going to different universities, but perhaps they had different interests in things or people. At least this theory doesn't throw the ship completely out the window.