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They Changed It Now It Sucks: Real Life
Note: This article lists examples which take place within fandoms; not the TV Tropes opinion as to whether a change is for the worse. TV Tropes doesn't have opinions. The focus is on over-reaction about minor changes.
  • It is often stereotyped that senior citizens complain about everything that is current just because it's different from the stuff they were used to when growing up (TVs, phones, etc.).
    "One thing in this world will never become worse than it was back in the good old days: Old timers talking about how things used to be better back in the good old days."
  • Fans of the Ford Mustang pony car adopted this attitude when the 5.0-liter Windsor V8 was replaced with the 4.6 liter Modular motor in 1996. Eventually, they came around, and the aftermarket heavily supports the Mod motors. Ford is gearing up to introduce a 5.0 liter Modular motor in the 2010 calendar year, about a year or so after the new refresh hits dealers.
  • Nissan 370Z has a feature called SynchroRev Match, which automatically blips the throttle during downshifting for effortless power delivery and to keep RPM's in check. Driving snobs cried foul almost from the word go, as they felt it would be the end of heel-toe downshifting, nevermind that A.)SynchroRev Match can be switched off, and B.) it's part of a sports package, so not ordering it will keep it out of the car (although it means that you won't equip your car with a limited-slip differential, 19-inch wheels and tires and bigger brakes).
    • The 2015 NISMO edition introduces an automatic transmission option. Que massive complaints from the manual transmission purists, who are upset that Nissan has opened the floodgates for casuals who can't drive a stick. Nissan also modified the body appearance, which is strongly inspired by popular JDM kits, and tried to address common complaints about the old body (huge spoiler blocking rear view, front airdam scrapping low roads, not aggressive enough). Que massive complaints about the old body kit is superior, and the new look is an Amuse/VeilSide knockoff.
  • The Mopar Community universally said They Changed It, Now It Sucks when it was revealed that the Dodge Charger would be resurrected... as a four-door sedan. Massive amounts of Fan Dumb ensued, never mind that the nameplate was defiled previously, that the Charger sedan is RWD and has a Hemi (not quite) like its celebrated predecessor, and that making the Charger a sedan instead of a muscle car gave Dodge the avenue to bring back another muscle car classic... needless to say, once the Challenger was brought back, all was forgiven.
  • A motorcycle example. After the success of the 916 family, Ducati replaced it with the completely different 999. The main issue was that, compared to the absolutely beautiful 916, the 999 (said to be styled after a steam locomotive) was quite ugly in comparison, and was such a sales flop that the 1098 that replaced it was clearly patterned off the 916. Since then, the general opinion of the 999 has improved. While the styling is still controversial, some grow to love it, and many agree that, mechanically, it still was an improvement over the 916.
  • If someone sat somewhere just once where you normally do, even though there's nothing which makes it 'yours' in anyway, you probably felt a bit annoyed. This can be compared to biological niche space. Two good ways to see its effects are A) Students do not mind that others use "their seat" while they are attending a different class, but walk into your classroom and there is a lingering person around that seat and they are noticeably uncomfortable. B) The biggest problem after robberies is the psychological impact that someone messed with (and possibly took) your things disrupting the normal stasis.
  • If you like stories about the good old days of music radio, tune in to The Hits Just Keep On Coming.
  • The novelty radio equivalent, David Tanny's radio show and podcasts. It's essentially amounting to 'In 1981, I had to drive out of town to listen to Dr Demento, and he played all this good stuff, and now I don't listen to any of his stuff anymore because it sucks, and I've sent him emails telling him to play my stuff, and he wouldn't, so I sent him emails telling him he sucks.' This man of course has a taste in the sort of novelty music which relies on lame parodies, silly voices and toilet humor, thus meaning it could be made any point in time and essentially be the same.
  • Opal Fruits (in the U.K.) turning into Starburst, and combining Lemon and Lime together to allow space for the blackcurrant.
  • Marathon becoming Snickers. Not least because it now sounds like lady's underwear.
  • Many a person has come back from abroad to the UK in outrage at the lack of 'real' Mountain Dew.
  • There's a certain amount of backlash against the switchover to digital cable, both that it's happening, and that it's not happening fast enough.
  • Major League Baseball created the World Baseball Classic to try to promote the growth of the game in other countries, modeling it in large part after the World Cup and handling matters of advancing similarly in the inaugural event in 2006 (round-robin pool play, top 2 teams from each pool advance—then they had a second round of pool play, which differs from the World Cup, but whatever). Many people railed against the whole idea of the WBC itself, but only because they were worried that players could get hurt competing at such a high level when they would normally be in Spring Training.note 
  • Baseball fans in general act like this. Any time there is any change in the sport - the designated hitter, Astroturf, the Wild Card, interleague play, expansion teams, polyester uniforms etc. - many fans are up in arms. The addition of a wild card playoff game has once again been garnering this reaction. The fact that the final day of the 2011 regular season is already being described as one of the greatest days in the sport's history, one which would have become completely meaningless under the new system doesn't help much.
  • New Coke. New Coke did suck, at least in terms of supporting brand loyalty. People who actually liked Coca-Cola were understandably upset when Coke changed the formulation to something closer to that of Pepsi. Considering that the reaction of the general public to New Coke was foreshadowed by early focus groups — which were largely ignored — the company should have known that if they changed it, it would suck. New Coke was a major case of research failure on the company's part. The aforementioned focus groups were asked whether they liked this new beverage, but nobody thought to ask the crucial question: "What would you say if this drink replaced the Coca-Cola you grew up with?" For those who think "Coke, Pepsi, they're the same thing, right?": The defining difference between Coke and Pepsi can be summarized briefly as "Pepsi is citrus-y, Coke is vanilla-y". Coca-Cola's big goof was their apparent assumption that Pepsi loyalists liked Pepsi mainly because of its taste (and could therefore be won by emulating the taste of Pepsi), while Coke loyalists liked Coke mainly because of its brand name (and therefore wouldn't be lost by changing the taste of Coke). They found out in short order that this was all kinds of stupid.
  • Ebay. Every change made, good or bad, if followed by endless ranting in the blogosphere and hastily-organized boycotts. The same goes for any popular website, with several recent social networking examples.
  • "Sci-Fi/SciFi/Sci Fi/Sci-fi/Scifi Channel" changed its name to Syfy. No one cares that it's pronounced the same and exists mostly so they can have a name that can be trademarked. All they care about is having a focus for their hate of the channel's genuine Network Decay. One of the networks stated motivations for the change was to distance itself from its core fanbase, which they expressed in rather unflattering terms. It looks stupid. Fuh-nettick spelling yoo-zhoo-ullee duz. There frequently repeated fact (once discovered) that "syfy" is Polish for syphilis and a couple of other veneareal diseases. The sudden wave of screwing and cancellations of Caprica, Stargate Universe and Eureka only reinforced the original point.
  • The History Channel which suffered from worse Network Decay than the Sci-Fi channel. Even though it initially started out overly focused on World War II and Adolf Hitler (so much so that it was chidingly referred to as The Hitler Channel) there was still good historical content for history buffs. Eventually the network started airing historically unfounded and plain WMG conspiracy shows talking about the Nostradamus predictions and ancient aliens. Eventually the network flat out dumped most of its History related content (to the point you could almost call it an Artifact Title) in favor of pandering to low brow viewers with reality television.
  • Australian Football has regular rule changes, all of which lead to massive fan outcry. Some work out for the better by most people's opinion (such as the rushed behind rule introduced in 2009) whilst others such as the "hands in the back" rule introduced in 2007 (explained in the other wiki) is almost universally hated.
  • In a valiant but failing attempt to make water polo a higher scoring, more watchable game, the rules have (massively) changed about three times in the last six or seven years—the game was made faster (30 second shot clock instead of 35 for women), the pool longer (30 meters instead of 25 for men), only one hand can block a ball for field players instead of two, and the meter markings were changed to 2-5-7. Recently, they have discussed removing basic fouls since a water polo foul is nothing like a "real" foul in other sports. The result? Coaches storming out of meetings, USA Water Polo receiving death threat emails, and teams completely falling apart—really.
  • In all sports, whenever a sports team changes its logo, colors, name, or uniforms, expect there to be a large amount of criticism towards the new scheme. Notable examples in American sports include the Denver Bronco's dropping of the "Orange Crush" jerseys, the Milwaukee Brewers drop of the "glove logo," and just about any of the logos and colors that the Toronto Blue Jays have tried since the early 90's.
  • The amusement park at the Mall of America in Minneapolis/St. Paul was originally themed around the much more generally appealing "Peanuts" Characters (as Charles M. Schulz was a St. Paul Native), now it's themed after Nickelodeon, which has a considerably much more limited appeal, and also losing one of the mall's most defining Minnesota connections. This was done as the Schulz family did not allow the park to use the brand anymore. They later recanted and allowed Valleyfair, a Minnesota amusement park, to use the Peanuts brand.
  • Sun-Maid updated the appearance of their mascot, the Sun-Maid raisin girl, in 2009. People are already criticizing the move, complaining that the raising girl has been turned into an Amish Barbie doll.
  • Perfume makers routinely reformulate classic fragrances for a variety of reasons, and feel no need to announce such changes. For the knowing user the best case scenario is that the new formula still smells reasonably like the old one.
  • The Philippine military as a whole usually suffers from equipment shortages due to funding deficits, causing them to frequently resort to refurbishing and upgrading old equipment instead of buying new ones. The Philippine Marines did this en masse to their stores of old World War II vintage M3 "Grease Guns", adding an integral suppressor, picatinny rails, and other upgrades to get it up to snuff with modern SMGs. Someone posted a YouTube video featuring one of these upgraded M3 SMGs and immediately incurred the uproar of classic gun fans because how dare the Filipino Marines use a practical way of solving a very real equipment shortage problem by ruining the M3 forever.
  • A relatively famous German chocolate brand called "Kinder Schokolade" (transl. children's chocolate) dared to change the design of its packaging after roughly 50 years or so. They replaced the image of a smiling boy with another smiling boy, who looked slightly more modern. Some customers didn't take kindly to this change. They even made a boycott webpage about it, calling the new boy "Kevin". (URL transl: Away-with-Kevin)
  • Sailor Jerry's, a type of rum, recently changed flavour from a sweeter flavour it was known for to a more typical rum flavour. You can see why people are complaining on this account, though.
  • Baristas. Other than Italian for waiter/waitress, stereotyped to be one of the most successful professions in the pacific northwest. Strippers and erotic dancers recently took up the job and came up with what has been called "bikini baristas", further ruining the whole thing.
  • Ever been to a family or high school reunion, and had someone tell you that you've changed, in a negative tone?
  • The Pirates Of The Caribbean rides in Disneyland and Walt Disney World have been changed to incorporate characters and music from the Pirates of the Caribbean movies. Fans are divided on whether this is a good thing.
  • Any substantial alteration to/replacement of an attraction in Disney park, or even a whole section of a park in larger-scale cases, will divide Disney park fans even if there are understandable reasons for the changes (i.e., no one but the diehard fans visits it anymore, the technology is outdated, and so on).
  • See how you like it when your local grocery store remodels. You can't! find! anything! Some of the more jaded and cynical employees will tell you, that was the entire point. While remodeling is often done for various pragmatic reasons, one of the reasons that they'll remodel is simply to mix things up. Since shoppers can often get in a rut when they buy their typical staples, they hope that if they rearrange, everything, you'll have to hunt around a little more for them, and hopefully buy something else that catches your eye.
  • NASCAR. Tracks repaved. Tracks closed. New tracks added - doubly so for mile-and-a-half, mid-banked ovals. Dates changed. The vehicles. The Chase championship format. The championship sponsor. The rules themselves. Fans are divided on some of them.
  • This is the reaction among many moviegoers to the revival of the 3-D movie craze. Partly justified in that some companies cheap out on the 3-D process and end up putting out a horrible 3-D conversion just for the extra cash — but there are plenty of movies that either put a lot of work into the conversion or film in 3-D from the start and they look beautiful.
  • 3D television sets are generating complaints. Many people don't like how you need special glasses to see the video content in 3D and getting headaches from watching their TV programs in 3D, preferring to just stick with their HD sets.
  • The GAP company changed its logo, which is a fairly common occurrence with most companies with identifiable logos. It was a complete change though and not a transitional one like most do, and people HATED it. So much so that they changed it back to the original logo. Next, queue up complaints about changing it back!
  • Nickelodeon has received quite a bit of flak for discarding their Iconic Logo for a text-logo for cross-branding.
  • Kid Cuisine has received this from former kids who grew up eating the frozen meals when the company recently changed their mascot's design ever so slightly to a more streamlined, thinner version.
  • In a more unusual example of this trope, the Church council of Vatican II led some heavily conservative groups of the Catholic Church, particularly one Marcel Lefebvre, to complain heavily about the way that things had been handled, and about the changes that had been implemented. This led to groups actually disassociating themselves from the Pope's leadership.
  • Any theological change will incur this, regardless of denomination - look at the furore over the Church of England's decision to appoint openly gay (though celibate) bishops.
  • "Pot of Gold" chocolates were originally a wide, narrow box with an assortment of chocolates. They are now a shorter, fatter box with a smaller assortment. Most of the good ones are missing.
  • This happens a lot in the firearms world. The biggest culprit is probably metal injection molding, or MIM. This basically involves using a metal and plastic mix to create the small parts that typically make up the trigger, hammer, and locking mechanisms of small arms. This allows manufacturers to mass produce things like M1911's or revolvers that had previously required extensive amounts of hand-fitting, making them cost less to produce for the manufacturer. While this has its good and bad points, reading any gun forum without prior knowledge will have you surprised it wasn't the tool of the devil himself in order to "cheapen" their beloved 1911 or Smith & Wesson with inferior crap.
  • Necco Sweethearts have always been a pretty YMMV candy, with their silly sayings, pastel colors, and overall chalk-like consistency, but they have a devoted fan base which enjoys them for their very chalkiness. Imagine the shock those fans had this Valentine's Day: without any warning, the New England Candy Company changed everything but the shape. They are now soft, bright, and have artificial fruit flavors, which is not exactly a type of candy the world was crying out for more of. The recipe was obviously changed because so many people weren't fans of the original, but without any advertisement, how are the haters going to know it's completely different candy?
  • Russian czar Peter I aka Peter the Great made so much radical reforms that some people seriously considered him being Antichrist. But in retrospect almost everyone agrees he did a great job and made Russia great and powerful.
  • Certain subway cars of the New York City Subway after general overhaul in the late 1980s/early 90s such as the R32's, R38's, R40/R40M's, R42's, R44's and the R46's.
  • HP Sauce. Britain is up in arms about the recent change to HP Sauce - they've reduced the salt content, thus changing a recipe that is over 100 years old, affecting the flavour and the resulting furore is not dissimilar to the New Coke debacle in the States all those years ago. The fact they shifted production out of the UK previously was already a black mark against makers Heinz.
  • Textual Poachers, Henry Jenkins' study of fandom, looks more sympathetically at this, as demonstrated by an excerpt from a black fan of Star Trek: The Next Generation:
    Your favourite character has been "promoted" and (they hope) forgotten; your second favourite character's role has been considerably reduced and his characterization changed; the people who look like you have either been made into a caricature or removed from the bridge altogether, and stuck in unattractive costumes as well (I know that's the division color. I'm sorry, but mustard is simply not a good color on black people). The weight of the show has been placed on an occasionally cute but minor character; the writers aren't doing anything with the two remaining characters, who get less interesting as time goes on - and there's a baby on the bridge where an adult should be. Given all that, might you not maybe possibly be just a little, tiny bit upset?
  • Many people complained about the removal of Pluto as a planet, despite perfectly valid scientific reasons to do so. The complaints basically boil down to "I learned it that way as a kid, now it's different!"
  • This can even happen with things such as the names of buildings. There was quite a bit of indignant squawking in Chicago when the Sears Tower was renamed the Willis Tower.
  • The US Army changed its uniform several times. The black beret was made mandatory for all soldiers, despite its history with the Rangers. They were given a Tan beret. The new Army Service Uniform, replaces the dress blues and green class A's. However the warm weather version of the uniform makes a soldier look like a mall cop. And soldiers with the old uniform will have to buy the ASU. For even the lowest ranking soldier the cost is north of $400.00 US.
  • Go to any place that serves food. If even the slightest thing is removed from anything (menus, in the restaurant, etc.) or changed, expect this to happen. Even ingredient changes were enough to incite this trope.
  • The new DC Comics logo has a D being peeled back to reveal a C, which is supposed to be symbolic of the dual identity trope common among many superheroes and villains. Some like it, while others think it looks too much like a toilet seat.
  • Changing the format of programs during updates can lead to this. On the one hand, updates can be sorely needed and provide additional content. On the other hand, they often change the interface too much and make it annoying for regular users used to the old format.
  • The new and increasingly more common form of bubble wrap used in packing is made with interconnected air pockets instead of individual ones, so that popping one bubble will deflate the rest of them in that row. It's certainly stronger and more practical for the folks doing the packing, but totally kills the fun for whoever's receiving the parcel.
  • Certain retailers in Canada. This happened with Walmart acquiring Woolco in 1994, as well as when rival Zellers and its parent, the Hudson's Bay Company, acquired Woodward's in Western Canada and Towers (Bonimart in Quebec) in Eastern Canada in the early 1990s, as well as all the Canadian Kmart stores in 1998. With Target acquiring Zellers in 2013 (Zellers already sold some stores in 2012 to Walmart, and some other Zellers stores will be closed without becoming Target), this is sure to be a source of complaints. And let's not forget the loss of Eaton's...
  • Everyone has worse manners now than the did back when you were growing up. This might be attributable to the shift from an "authoritarian" parenting model where children were expected to be seen and not heard and completely obedient since The Sixties to an "authoritative" one held as the standard, which more conservative people have decried as producing spoiled brats.
  • The new design for Chuck E. Cheese, where he now looks like a rockin', electric guitar-playing teenager who is a mouse-sized mouse. Fans of the original Chuck E. Cheese despise him. Oh, and how are they going to fit somebody inside the new CEC costume?
  • A minor example in the new commercials—for some reason they keep saying "funner", even though that's not even a real word.
  • Any election result is likely to engender this result in someone - generally, someone who perceives their side as having lost that election. Either that, or the two most recent Presidents of the USA really were the worst Presidents in history.
  • Cue complaining from aviation enthusiasts whenever their favorite airline changes its logo or livery.
  • In March 2013, The Age newspaper in Melbourne, Australia switched from a broadsheet to a tabloid format. Cue complaining.
  • Mining magnate Gina Rhinehart's bid for ownership of the paper (especially from left-wing readers - "If we wanted right wing propaganda we'd just read Rupert Murdoch's paper!"). Rhinehart is now the largest shareholder, but is barred from taking a place on the board unless she signs a pledge guaranteeing editoral freedom, which she refuses to do.
  • In Tennis, people complained during the 90s about how many matches had degenerated into boring serve-and-volley fests with very few lengthy points. The speed of multiple court surfaces was slowed down as a response to this. People then began complaining about the lack of serve-and-volley play and the prevalence of lengthy rallies.
  • 7-11 seems to be heading in that direction according to some of these comments. The convenience store chain is rebranding to appeal to health conscious Millenials and female consumers with its new image giving off an upscale, Whole Foods vibe.
  • During the Greek military junta, the Powers That Be actually believed that this trope applied to the Greek language, which they thought had "decayed" from the time of Plato and Aristotle— never mind that this happens to every language without fail, and that as some features simplify, there are always others that get more complex. Thus, they actually demanded that everybody write only in Katharevousa, their interpretation of Ancient Greek, even though the language has changed so much in two and a half millennia that even Greeks perceive Ancient Greek as a foreign language.
  • Any changes to government policies that affects everyone is sure to invoke complaints. (Healthcare, taxes, etc.)
  • Formula One, Modern F1 is subjected to be burned, especially by 80s and 90s fans, because of rules and regulation that provides too much safety, subpar drivers, boring dominations, booster assisted cars, fake overtakes, low quality tires, horrible sounding engines. Basically said, anything post Aryton Senna sucks.
  • This The Daily WTF story has a guy who complains that a hardware upgrade made his computer faster. He also causes problems down the line, but then, he is a manager.
  • Retsina is a kind of Greek wine flavored with pine resin. Modern winemaking techniques have completely gotten rid of all the various reasons that resinated wine was invented in the first place,note  but the stuff still has a following for its strong, piney flavor, which goes particularly well with strongly flavored medzes like pastirma and garlic dip. However, since the 1970s, the amounts of resin have gone steadily downward, and purists are now angry that today's typical retsina tastes like wine with a bit of resin rather than straight turpentine.
  • Conservative politics often falls in line with this. More conservative politicians will argue that changing things from how they are now and/or were for their parents' generation could destroy whatever facet of our lives is, perceivably, being changed. Predictably, more liberal politicians will often take the opposite stance of It's the Same, Now It Sucks.


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