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* IWasQuiteALooker: Both Henry and Richard recall Eleanor's youthful beauty, and Eleanor looks back both fondly and bitterly on her glory days.



* IWasQuiteALooker: Both Henry and Richard recall Eleanor's youthful beauty, and Eleanor looks back both fondly and bitterly on her glory days.
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* SuccessionCrisis: Primogeniture was not the law in 1183, and Henry is worried that his sons might fight a civil war after he dies. It doesn't help that the parents can't agree about which son should inherit: Henry prefers John while Eleanor prefers Richard. Making it worse is Henry's idea of having ''more'' children with Alais. Even worse, Aquitaine has different rules than England. The muddled mess will result in the Hundred Years War, the War of the Baron, and ultimately the Magna Carta when John remains in charge.

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* SuccessionCrisis: Primogeniture was not the law in 1183, and Henry is worried that his sons might fight a civil war after he dies. It doesn't help that the parents can't agree about which son should inherit: Henry prefers John while Eleanor prefers Richard.Richard, while ''no one'' considers Geoffrey as a candidate (including Geoffrey himself) even though he's probably more capable as future king than Richard and ''definitely'' more so than John. Making it worse is Henry's idea of having ''more'' children with Alais. Even worse, Aquitaine has different rules than England. The muddled mess will result in the Hundred Years War, the War of the Baron, and ultimately the Magna Carta when John remains in charge.
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* DramaticIrony: A good deal of the tension, squabbling and fighting during the story is over who will succeed Henry as king of England ''and'' get the Aquitaine, with Richard and John being championed by their mother and father respectively -- while Geoffrey is very much ignored. Most viewers will know that ultimately Richard did become king and was succeeded by John after he died without heirs, only for John to be primarily remembered as a villain whose reign effectively ended the Angevin Empire.[[note]]Historical opinion of John has become more tolerant over the centuries, and he's regarded as a generally capable ruler with a horrible, vindictive personality.[[/note]] Viewers might also know that Geoffrey would die only three years after the setting of this film, his son Arthur was possibly murdered on John's order, and that after Henry's death Eleanor acted as regent for Richard while he was fighting in the Crusades; in a bizarre reversal of events she actually tried to ''retire'' to an abbey when she was 72, only to have to keep coming out of retirement to help her sons.

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* DramaticIrony: A good deal of the tension, squabbling and fighting during the story is over who will succeed Henry as king of England ''and'' get the Aquitaine, with Richard and John being championed by their mother and father respectively -- while Geoffrey is very much ignored. Most viewers will know that ultimately Richard did become king and was succeeded by John after he died without heirs, only for John to be primarily remembered as a villain whose reign effectively ended the Angevin Empire.[[note]]Historical opinion of John has become more tolerant over the centuries, and he's regarded as a generally capable ruler with a horrible, vindictive personality.[[/note]] Viewers might also know that Geoffrey would die only three years after the setting of this film, that his son Arthur was possibly murdered on John's order, and that after Henry's death Eleanor acted as regent for Richard while he was fighting in the Crusades; in a bizarre reversal of events she actually tried to ''retire'' to an abbey when she was 72, only to have to keep coming out of retirement to help her sons.



* {{Foil}}: What would Richard, Geoffrey or John be like as King? Look at Philip. The young newly elevated King whose a master of deceit, betrayal and scheming, that underneath it all has massive insecurities and deep unresolved issues with his father.

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* {{Foil}}: What would Richard, Geoffrey or John be like as King? Look at Philip. The young newly elevated King whose who's a master of deceit, betrayal and scheming, that and who underneath it all has massive insecurities and deep unresolved issues with his father.
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* DramaticIrony: A good deal of the tension, squabbling and fighting during the story is over who will succeed Henry as king of England ''and'' get the Aquitaine, with Richard and John being championed by their mother and father respectively -- while Geoffrey is very much ignored. Most viewers will know that ultimately Richard did become king and was succeeded by John after he died without heirs, only for John to be primarily remembered as a villain whose reign effectively ended the Angevin Empire.[[note]]Historical opinion of John has become more tolerant over the centuries, and he's regarded as a generally capable ruler with a horrible, vindictive personality.[[/note]] Viewers might also know that Geoffrey would die only three years after the setting of this film, and his son Arthur was possibly murdered on John's order, and that after Henry's death Eleanor acted as regent for Richard while he was fighting in the Crusades; in a bizarre reversal of events she actually tried to ''retire'' to a abbey when she was 72, only to have to keep coming out of retirement to help her sons.

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* DramaticIrony: A good deal of the tension, squabbling and fighting during the story is over who will succeed Henry as king of England ''and'' get the Aquitaine, with Richard and John being championed by their mother and father respectively -- while Geoffrey is very much ignored. Most viewers will know that ultimately Richard did become king and was succeeded by John after he died without heirs, only for John to be primarily remembered as a villain whose reign effectively ended the Angevin Empire.[[note]]Historical opinion of John has become more tolerant over the centuries, and he's regarded as a generally capable ruler with a horrible, vindictive personality.[[/note]] Viewers might also know that Geoffrey would die only three years after the setting of this film, and his son Arthur was possibly murdered on John's order, and that after Henry's death Eleanor acted as regent for Richard while he was fighting in the Crusades; in a bizarre reversal of events she actually tried to ''retire'' to a an abbey when she was 72, only to have to keep coming out of retirement to help her sons.
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* DramaticIrony: A good deal of the tension, squabbling and fighting during the story is over who will succeed Henry as king of England ''and'' get the Aquitaine, with Richard and John being championed by their mother and father respectively -- while Geoffrey is very much ignored. Most viewers will know that ultimately Richard did become king and was succeeded by John after he died without heirs, only for John to be primarily remembered as a villain whose reign effectively ended the Angevin Empire.[[note]]Historical opinion of John has become more tolerant over the centuries, and he's regarded as a generally capable ruler with a horrible, vindictive personality.[[/note]] Viewers might also know that Geoffrey would die only three years after the setting of this film, and his son Arthur was possibly murdered on John's order.

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* DramaticIrony: A good deal of the tension, squabbling and fighting during the story is over who will succeed Henry as king of England ''and'' get the Aquitaine, with Richard and John being championed by their mother and father respectively -- while Geoffrey is very much ignored. Most viewers will know that ultimately Richard did become king and was succeeded by John after he died without heirs, only for John to be primarily remembered as a villain whose reign effectively ended the Angevin Empire.[[note]]Historical opinion of John has become more tolerant over the centuries, and he's regarded as a generally capable ruler with a horrible, vindictive personality.[[/note]] Viewers might also know that Geoffrey would die only three years after the setting of this film, and his son Arthur was possibly murdered on John's order. order, and that after Henry's death Eleanor acted as regent for Richard while he was fighting in the Crusades; in a bizarre reversal of events she actually tried to ''retire'' to a abbey when she was 72, only to have to keep coming out of retirement to help her sons.
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* DramaticIrony: A good deal of the tension, squabbling and fighting during the story is over who will succeed Henry as king of England ''and'' get the Aquitaine, with Richard and John being championed by their mother and father respectively -- while Geoffrey is very much ignored. Most viewers will know that ultimately Richard did become king and was succeeded by John after he died without heirs, only for John to be primarily remembered as a villain whose reign effectively ended the Angevin Empire.[[note]]Historical opinion of John has become more tolerant over the centuries, and he's regarded as a generally capable ruler with a horrible, vindictive personality.[[/note]] Viewers might also know that Geoffrey would die only three years after the setting of this film, and his son Arthur was possibly murdered on John's order.
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** Christmas trees first appeared in Germany in the 1500s.

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** Christmas trees first appeared in Germany in the 1500s.1500s, and wrapping gifts didn't really become popular in England until the 19th century.
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* TheDragon: Eleanor's gaoler-turned-guardsman, whose loyalty she's implied to have bought with riches. He escorts her to her imprisoned sons and even murders a peer on her behalf.
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* HistoricalRelationshipOverhaul: The play presents Angelica Schuyler as only marrying her husband because she was expected to marry rich, while loving Alexander Hamilton instead, when in reality she ran away with him, suggesting she really did care for him at least at some point.
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* HistoricalRelationshipOverhaul: The play presents Angelica Schuyler as only marrying her husband because she was expected to marry rich, while loving Alexander Hamilton instead, when in reality she ran away with him, suggesting she really did care for him at least at some point.
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* {{Foil}}: What would Richard, Geoffrey or John be like as King? Look at Philip. The young newly elevated King whose a master of deceit, betrayal and scheming, that underneath it all has massive insecurities and deep unresolved issues with his father.


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* HiddenDisdainReveal: Given that he's King of France, it's obvious that Philip already despises Henry. But it's only after Henry reveals that Philip has been outwitted by Henry that Philip unveils ItsPersonal, as he despised how much Henry utterly humiliated Philip's father time and time again, but paradoxically is also jealous that Louis still seemed to hold no grudge against Henry and his last words went out to ''Henry'' and not his own son.
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* TheWomanWearingTheQueenlyMask: Eleanor shows signs of it, though she's reluctant to admit it.
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** While Richard's sexuality is still intensely debated, historians have ruled out Richard and Philip II's being lovers. A passage 12th-century chronicler Roger of Howden's ''Gesta Regis Henrici Secundi et Gesta Regis Ricardi Benedicti abbatis'' describes Richard and Philip's closeness and sharing a bed. However, sharing a bed was common in the Middle Ages (and indeed to varying degrees into the 19th century--bed-sharing saved on laundry ''and'' heating), and such ostentatious intimacy was a sign of royal favor. In this particular instance Richard, who feared being passed over for John, and Philip, who was eager to promote infighting within the Plantagenet dynasty, were emphasizing their alliance as a threat to Henry. Contemporaries and medieval historians understood this perfectly, and it was not until 1948 that ''architectural'' historian J. H. Harvey, failing to understand the medieval social norms behind and the context of event, anachronistically interpreted the bed sharing as an affair.

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** While Richard's sexuality is still intensely debated, historians have ruled out Richard and Philip II's being lovers. A passage of 12th-century chronicler Roger of Howden's ''Gesta Regis Henrici Secundi et Gesta Regis Ricardi Benedicti abbatis'' describes Richard and Philip's closeness and sharing a bed. However, sharing a bed was common in the Middle Ages (and indeed to varying degrees into the 19th century--bed-sharing saved on laundry ''and'' heating), and such ostentatious intimacy was a sign of royal favor. In this particular instance Richard, who feared being passed over for John, and Philip, who was eager to promote infighting within the Plantagenet dynasty, were emphasizing their alliance as a threat to Henry. Contemporaries and medieval historians understood this perfectly, and it was not until 1948 that ''architectural'' historian J. H. Harvey, failing to understand the medieval social norms behind and the context of the event, anachronistically interpreted the bed sharing as an affair.
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** On the other hand, historians now speculate that Philip and Geoffrey might have had some sort of romantic attachment, given that they were far closer than Richard and Philip ever were and Phillip was ''intensely'' grief stricken when he died, but in the play they barely know each other.
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* CantLiveWithThemCantLiveWithoutThem: Henry and Eleanor in spades.

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* CantLiveWithThemCantLiveWithoutThem: Henry and Eleanor in spades.love and despise each other, and it's clear that they still love each other even while doing a very good job at inflicting any emotional wound that they can.



* HistoricalDomainCharacter: The [[UsefulNotes/TheHouseOfPlantagenet main characters]], including UsefulNotes/RichardTheLionHeart.
** Katherine Hepburn is a descendant of UsefulNotes/EleanorOfAquitaine — not only through Eleanor's marriage to Henry II, but also Eleanor's earlier marriage to the French King Louis VII.

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* HistoricalDomainCharacter: The [[UsefulNotes/TheHouseOfPlantagenet main characters]], including UsefulNotes/RichardTheLionHeart. \n** Katherine Hepburn is a descendant of UsefulNotes/EleanorOfAquitaine — not only through Eleanor's marriage to Henry II, but also Eleanor's earlier marriage to the French King Louis VII.VII.
* HistoricalInJoke: In the 2003 version, William Marshal is the one who foils both of Richard's attempts to escape Chinon; furthermore, it takes little more than an admonishing look for Richard to back down. This reflects the fact that Marshal unhorsed Richard in 1189 and refrained from killing him only because Richard appealed to his sense of chivalry; he was one of the only men in Europe who could match Richard for sheer combat prowess.



* NotEvenBotheringWithTheAccent: Whilst everyone else goes with TheQueensLatin. Creator/KatharineHepburn goes with a flat Mid-Atlantic. Historically of course they should all be speaking french.

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* NotEvenBotheringWithTheAccent: Whilst everyone else goes with TheQueensLatin. Creator/KatharineHepburn goes with a flat Mid-Atlantic. Historically Historically, of course course, they should all be speaking french.French.



* ParentalFavoritism: They're very blatant about it and a major driving force in the plot.

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* ParentalFavoritism: They're very blatant about it Henry and a major driving force in Eleanor openly admit who their favorite sons are and endlessly scheme against each other to place their chosen boy on the plot.throne... while Geoffery pits everyone against each other because he's ignored by both parents.



* QueerRomance: Philip and Richard.

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* QueerRomance: Philip and Richard. Richard was pained enough by Philip's marriage to stop writing to him, but Philip claims he only went along because he could hurt Henry by eventually revealing that his son was committing sodomy.



* StraightGay: Richard, arguably.

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* StraightGay: Richard, arguably.Richard's affection for Philip is not revealed until well into the story. Before, during, and after, he remains a strong-willed BloodKnight and the most physically dangerous of Henry's sons.



* {{Troll}}: Henry, Eleanor, Geoffrey, and Philip.

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* {{Troll}}: Henry, Eleanor, Geoffrey, and Philip.Philip all say and do various things to deliberately get a rise out of each other. Being family means they know exactly where the sore spots are and how to jab them (and though Philip isn't, he's spent enough time with the Plantagenets to be equally effective).



* WarriorPrince: Richard. He's first seen victorious in a tournament, prepared to strike his opponent dead.

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* WarriorPrince: Richard. He's In the 1968 film, he's first seen victorious in a tournament, prepared to strike his opponent dead.dead. In the 2003 film, he tries fighting his way out of his bedroom until Marshal gets the drop on him.
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** While Richard's sexuality is still intensely debated, historians have ruled out Richard and Philip II's being lovers. A passage 12th-century chronicler Roger of Howden's ''Gesta Regis Henrici Secundi et Gesta Regis Ricardi Benedicti abbatis'' describes Richard and Philip's closeness and sharing a bed. However, sharing a bed was common in the Middle Ages (and indeed to varying degrees into the 19th century), and such ostentatious intimacy was a sign of royal favor. In this particular instance Richard, who feared being passed over for John, and Philip, who was eager to promote infighting within the Plantagenet dynasty, were emphasizing their alliance as a threat to Henry. Contemporaries and medieval historians understood this perfectly, and it was not until 1948 that ''architectural'' historian J. H. Harvey, failing to understand the medieval social norms behind and the context of event, anachronistically interpreted the bed sharing as an affair.

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** While Richard's sexuality is still intensely debated, historians have ruled out Richard and Philip II's being lovers. A passage 12th-century chronicler Roger of Howden's ''Gesta Regis Henrici Secundi et Gesta Regis Ricardi Benedicti abbatis'' describes Richard and Philip's closeness and sharing a bed. However, sharing a bed was common in the Middle Ages (and indeed to varying degrees into the 19th century), century--bed-sharing saved on laundry ''and'' heating), and such ostentatious intimacy was a sign of royal favor. In this particular instance Richard, who feared being passed over for John, and Philip, who was eager to promote infighting within the Plantagenet dynasty, were emphasizing their alliance as a threat to Henry. Contemporaries and medieval historians understood this perfectly, and it was not until 1948 that ''architectural'' historian J. H. Harvey, failing to understand the medieval social norms behind and the context of event, anachronistically interpreted the bed sharing as an affair.
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* SuddenlyShouting: A specialty of Henry, who can go from calm conversation to bellowing on a ''dime''.
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* FreudianExcuse: Henry and Eleanor admit that they're responsible for how their sons turned out: Henry's babying has turned John into a SpoiledBrat, while his neglect combined with Eleanor's smothering and devious nature has made Richard distant and mistrustful. Meanwhile, both of them have completely neglected Geoffrey, which has made him cold and devious, with no real loyalty or affection towards any of his family.
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* BewareTheNiceOnes: Alais, for most of the film, has been little more than a tradable pawn (much to her own chagrin), and simply doesn't seem capable of the kind of viciousness the rest of the family displays...until Henry proposes to her, and she tells him that the only way to make sure their children are safe is to either keep his sons locked up forever, or kill them.
--> '''Alais''': If they're free, they'll kill it. ''(with steely determination)'' [[MamaBear And I will not live to see our children murdered.]]

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