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* The story of Harry and Dahlia, as glimpsed through Cheryl's repressed memories. Two teens who fell in love in high school, got married, and only realized that what they had going in high school would not suffice for a lifetime of marriage until ''after'' they had a child. The end result, a messy divorce and years of strained relationship between Cheryl and Dahlia after Harry's death and Cheryl demonizing her mother.

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* The story of Harry and Dahlia, as glimpsed through Cheryl's repressed memories. Two teens who fell in love in high school, got married, and only realized that what they had going in high school would not suffice for a lifetime of marriage until ''after'' they had a child. The end result, a messy divorce and years of a strained relationship between Cheryl and Dahlia after Harry's death and Cheryl demonizing her mother.
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* The "Drunk Dad", "Sleaze and Sirens" and "Wicked and Weak" endings count too. In the former, when he notices Cheryl filming him, a clearly drunk Harry mocks her and than demands that she bring him another beer. In the second, it's revealed that Harry cheated on his wife regularly with younger, more attractive women and even filmed it. In the third, it's revealed that Harry was abused by Dahlia, and that he apathetically allowed it to happen. He really wasn't the loving, kind dad Cheryl had longed for in these endings.

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* The "Drunk Dad", "Sleaze and Sirens" and "Wicked and Weak" endings count too. In the former, when he notices Cheryl filming him, a clearly drunk Harry mocks her and than then demands that she bring him another beer. In the second, it's revealed that Harry cheated on his wife regularly with younger, more attractive women and even filmed it. In the third, it's revealed that Harry was abused by Dahlia, and that he apathetically allowed it to happen. He really wasn't the loving, kind dad Cheryl had longed for in these endings.
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--> '''Kaufmann:''' The term is 'complicated grief'. But it's simple, isn't it? A young girl... Her parents don't get along. She blames herself, as all children do. Then Daddy dies. What's a girl to do? Deny that Daddy died. Deny who Daddy was. What seven-year-old actually knows who their parents are anyway? So she obsesses and obsesses over this fantasy dad, propping up her make-believe with scraps... scraps of a happy life that never was. ''Scraps of a father who never existed...'' '''Wake up!''' ''(throws a glass of scotch at the wall)'' Your dad wasn't a hero. Wasn't your knight in shining armor. [[ParentsAsPeople He was a human being]]. You never knew him, and you never will. [[LovingAShadow The dad walking around in your head isn't even a ghost. He never existed]]. A Frankenstein's monster, a child's fantasy! But you're alive. Your mother is alive. She's not the monster you make her out to be. You need to live your life...

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--> '''Kaufmann:''' The term is 'complicated grief'."complicated grief". But it's simple, isn't it? A young girl... Her parents don't get along. She blames herself, as all children do. Then Daddy dies. What's a girl to do? Deny that Daddy died. Deny who Daddy was. What seven-year-old actually knows who their parents are anyway? So she obsesses and obsesses over this fantasy dad, propping up her make-believe with scraps... scraps of a happy life that never was. ''Scraps Scraps of a father who never existed...'' ''never existed''... '''Wake up!''' ''(throws a glass of scotch at the wall)'' Your dad wasn't a hero. Wasn't your knight in shining armor. [[ParentsAsPeople He was a human being]]. You never knew him, and you never will. [[LovingAShadow The dad walking around in your head isn't even a ghost. He never existed]]. A Frankenstein's monster, a child's fantasy! But you're alive. Your mother is alive. She's not the monster you make her out to be. You need to live your life...
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--> '''Kaufmann:''' Your dad wasn't a hero. Wasn't your knight in shining armor. [[ParentsAsPeople He was a human being]]. You never knew him, and you never will. [[LovingAShadow The dad walking around in your head isn't even a ghost. He never existed]]. A Frankenstein's monster, a child's fantasy! But you're alive. Your mother is alive. She's not the monster you make her out to be. You need to live your life...

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--> '''Kaufmann:''' The term is 'complicated grief'. But it's simple, isn't it? A young girl... Her parents don't get along. She blames herself, as all children do. Then Daddy dies. What's a girl to do? Deny that Daddy died. Deny who Daddy was. What seven-year-old actually knows who their parents are anyway? So she obsesses and obsesses over this fantasy dad, propping up her make-believe with scraps... scraps of a happy life that never was. ''Scraps of a father who never existed...'' '''Wake up!''' ''(throws a glass of scotch at the wall)'' Your dad wasn't a hero. Wasn't your knight in shining armor. [[ParentsAsPeople He was a human being]]. You never knew him, and you never will. [[LovingAShadow The dad walking around in your head isn't even a ghost. He never existed]]. A Frankenstein's monster, a child's fantasy! But you're alive. Your mother is alive. She's not the monster you make her out to be. You need to live your life...
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* "Why did you have to die? It wasn't my fault..."

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* "Why did you have to die? It wasn't my fault... Someone has to take the blame."
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-->'''Harry:''' I always will be.

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-->'''Harry:''' [[AlwaysWithYou I always will be.]]
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*** Also from "Love Lost", Harry notices Cheryl and tells her, gently, "Sweetie, don't film this." Cheryl's been replaying and replaying her home movies to try to keep her grip on the perfect image of her father throughout the whole game, but never getting to the truth because she rewinds before she gets there. He tells her not to film it because he already knows divorce is tough on a kid, and having such a concrete reminder will only hurt her in the long run; the fact that he understands his daughter so well suggests he really was as attentive and loving as she remembers.

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*** Also from "Love Lost", Harry notices Cheryl and tells her, gently, "Sweetie, don't film this." Cheryl's been replaying and replaying her home movies to try to keep her grip on the perfect image of her father throughout the whole game, but never getting to the truth because she rewinds before she gets there. He tells her not to film it because he already knows divorce is tough on a kid, and having such a concrete reminder will only hurt her in the long run; the fact that he understands his daughter so well suggests he really was as attentive and loving as she remembers.
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** The "Love Lost" ending shows Cheryl taping Harry's departure from his family after their divorce, and him kneeling down to her to explain - [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxV8j2m8HSk "Even though Mom and Dad don't love each other anymore, we both love you - and we always will."]]

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** The "Love Lost" ending shows Cheryl taping Harry's departure from his family after their divorce, and him kneeling down to her to explain - explain: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxV8j2m8HSk "Even though Mom and Dad don't love each other anymore, we both love you - and we always will."]]
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-->*Harry turns to ice*

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-->*Harry -->''*Harry turns to ice*ice*''
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* Similarly, Cheryl's experiences after her father's death were ''far'' from pleasant, as most of the events from the cabin onwards are implied to have happened to her. She was drugged at a party, pressured into having sex by a selfish ex-boyfriend, rumored to be having an affair with a teacher (which was likely [[ParentalSubstitute her confiding in him regarding her personal life instead]]), and she ''definitely'' stabbed a security guard who'd taken pity on her for shoplifting, overreacting to his approach.

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* Similarly, Cheryl's experiences after her father's death were ''far'' from pleasant, as most of the events from the cabin onwards are implied to have happened to her. She was drugged at a party, pressured into having sex by a selfish ex-boyfriend, rumored to be having an affair with a teacher (which was likely [[ParentalSubstitute her confiding in him regarding her personal life instead]]), and she ''definitely'' stabbed even ''stabbed a security guard guard'' who'd taken pity on her for shoplifting, overreacting to his approach.
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-->'''Kaufman and Harry:''' Cheryl.

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-->'''Kaufman -->'''Kaufmann and Harry:''' Cheryl.
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* Some players get annoyed at the video of Cheryl and Harry playing over and over again in the beginning. However, it is the last thing that's shown in the game, and since we know the real story by then, [[HarsherInHindsight it makes the video ten times sadder]].

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* Some players get annoyed at the video of Cheryl and Harry [[RewindReplayRepeat playing over and over again again]] in the beginning. However, it is also the last thing that's shown in the game, and since we know the real story by then, [[HarsherInHindsight it makes the video ten times sadder]].
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'''As a Moments subpage, !Per wiki policy, Administrivia/SpoilersOff applies here and all spoilers are unmarked [[Administrivia/SpoilersOff as per policy.]] unmarked. Administrivia/YouHaveBeenWarned.'''
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* The big reveal at the end, which escalates with Kaufmann getting increasingly agitated with Cheryl and her delusions. The WhamLine is finally delivered as Harry is shown entering the room from the player's perspective.

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* The big reveal at the end, which escalates with Kaufmann getting increasingly agitated with Cheryl and her delusions. The WhamLine is finally delivered as Harry is shown entering the room from the player's Cheryl's perspective.

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-->[[spoiler:'''Cheryl:''' You've been with me for so long...]]
-->[[spoiler:'''Harry:''' I always will be.]]
-->[[spoiler:*Harry turns to ice*]]
** The "Love Lost" ending shows [[spoiler:Cheryl taping Harry's departure from his family after their divorce, and him kneeling down to her to explain - [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxV8j2m8HSk "Even though Mom and Dad don't love each other anymore, we both love you - and we always will."]]]]
*** [[spoiler: Also from "Love Lost", Harry notices Cheryl and tells her, gently, "Sweetie, don't film this." Cheryl's been replaying and replaying her home movies to try to keep her grip on the perfect image of her father throughout the whole game, but never getting to the truth because she rewinds before she gets there. He tells her not to film it because he already knows divorce is tough on a kid, and having such a concrete reminder will only hurt her in the long run; the fact that he understands his daughter so well suggests he really was as attentive and loving as she remembers.]]
* The "Drunk Dad", "Sleaze and Sirens" and "Wicked and Weak" endings count too. In the former, [[spoiler:when he notices Cheryl filming him, a clearly drunk Harry mocks her and than demands that she bring him another beer.]] In the second, it's revealed that [[spoiler:Harry cheated on his wife regularly with younger, more attractive women and even filmed it.]] In the third, it's revealed that [[spoiler:Harry was abused by Dahlia, and that he apathetically allowed it to happen.]] He really wasn't the loving, kind dad Cheryl had longed for in these endings.
* The big reveal at the end, which escalates with Kaufmann getting increasingly agitated with [[spoiler:Cheryl and her delusions]]. The WhamLine is finally delivered as [[spoiler:Harry is shown entering the room from the player's perspective.]]
--> '''Kaufmann:''' [[spoiler: Your dad wasn't a hero. Wasn't your knight in shining armor. [[ParentsAsPeople He was a human being]]. You never knew him, and you never will. [[LovingAShadow The dad walking around in your head isn't even a ghost. He never existed]]. A Frankenstein's monster, a child's fantasy! But you're alive. Your mother is alive. She's not the monster you make her out to be. You need to live your life...]]
-->[[spoiler:'''Kaufman and Harry''': Cheryl.]]

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-->[[spoiler:'''Cheryl:''' -->'''Cheryl:''' You've been with me for so long...]]
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I always will be.]]
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** The "Love Lost" ending shows [[spoiler:Cheryl Cheryl taping Harry's departure from his family after their divorce, and him kneeling down to her to explain - [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxV8j2m8HSk "Even though Mom and Dad don't love each other anymore, we both love you - and we always will."]]]]
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*** [[spoiler: Also from "Love Lost", Harry notices Cheryl and tells her, gently, "Sweetie, don't film this." Cheryl's been replaying and replaying her home movies to try to keep her grip on the perfect image of her father throughout the whole game, but never getting to the truth because she rewinds before she gets there. He tells her not to film it because he already knows divorce is tough on a kid, and having such a concrete reminder will only hurt her in the long run; the fact that he understands his daughter so well suggests he really was as attentive and loving as she remembers.]]
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* The "Drunk Dad", "Sleaze and Sirens" and "Wicked and Weak" endings count too. In the former, [[spoiler:when when he notices Cheryl filming him, a clearly drunk Harry mocks her and than demands that she bring him another beer.]] beer. In the second, it's revealed that [[spoiler:Harry Harry cheated on his wife regularly with younger, more attractive women and even filmed it.]] it. In the third, it's revealed that [[spoiler:Harry Harry was abused by Dahlia, and that he apathetically allowed it to happen.]] happen. He really wasn't the loving, kind dad Cheryl had longed for in these endings.
* The big reveal at the end, which escalates with Kaufmann getting increasingly agitated with [[spoiler:Cheryl Cheryl and her delusions]]. delusions. The WhamLine is finally delivered as [[spoiler:Harry Harry is shown entering the room from the player's perspective.]]
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--> '''Kaufmann:''' [[spoiler: Your dad wasn't a hero. Wasn't your knight in shining armor. [[ParentsAsPeople He was a human being]]. You never knew him, and you never will. [[LovingAShadow The dad walking around in your head isn't even a ghost. He never existed]]. A Frankenstein's monster, a child's fantasy! But you're alive. Your mother is alive. She's not the monster you make her out to be. You need to live your life...]]
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* [[spoiler:"Why did you have to die? It wasn't my fault..."]]
* The story of Harry and Dahlia, as glimpsed [[spoiler: through Cheryl's repressed memories. Two teens who fell in love in high school, got married, and only realized that what they had going in high school would not suffice for a lifetime of marriage until ''after'' they had a child. The end result, a messy divorce and years of strained relationship between Cheryl and Dahlia after Harry's death and Cheryl demonizing her mother.]]
* Similarly, [[spoiler: Cheryl's experiences after her father's death were ''far'' from pleasant, as most of the events from the cabin onwards are implied to have happened to her. She was drugged at a party, pressured into having sex by a selfish ex-boyfriend, rumored to be having an affair with a teacher (which was likely [[ParentalSubstitute her confiding in him regarding her personal life instead]]), and she ''definitely'' stabbed a security guard who'd taken pity on her for shoplifting, overreacting to his approach.]]
** And even before then, [[spoiler: poor Cheryl went through some harsh stuff. Having her pet dog accidentally get run over by her parents, badly injuring herself while playing with a toy on vacation...]]
* One of the early memories found in the game is a voice mail in the video store. It's of an irate women angry because the video store accidentally destroyed her wedding video and it was her only copy. [[spoiler: After playing through the game, you'll realize who that woman was: Dahlia, so the wedding video was of her and Harry. It really does cement that, no, she wasn't the monster Cheryl thought she was and that she still loved Harry.]]

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* [[spoiler:"Why "Why did you have to die? It wasn't my fault..."]]
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* The story of Harry and Dahlia, as glimpsed [[spoiler: through Cheryl's repressed memories. Two teens who fell in love in high school, got married, and only realized that what they had going in high school would not suffice for a lifetime of marriage until ''after'' they had a child. The end result, a messy divorce and years of strained relationship between Cheryl and Dahlia after Harry's death and Cheryl demonizing her mother.]]
mother.
* Similarly, [[spoiler: Cheryl's experiences after her father's death were ''far'' from pleasant, as most of the events from the cabin onwards are implied to have happened to her. She was drugged at a party, pressured into having sex by a selfish ex-boyfriend, rumored to be having an affair with a teacher (which was likely [[ParentalSubstitute her confiding in him regarding her personal life instead]]), and she ''definitely'' stabbed a security guard who'd taken pity on her for shoplifting, overreacting to his approach.]]
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** And even before then, [[spoiler: poor Cheryl went through some harsh stuff. Having her pet dog accidentally get run over by her parents, badly injuring herself while playing with a toy on vacation...]]
vacation...
* One of the early memories found in the game is a voice mail in the video store. It's of an irate women angry because the video store accidentally destroyed her wedding video and it was her only copy. [[spoiler: After playing through the game, you'll realize who that woman was: Dahlia, so the wedding video was of her and Harry. It really does cement that, no, she wasn't the monster Cheryl thought she was and that she still loved Harry.]]
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--> '''Kaufmann:''' [[spoiler: Your dad wasn't a hero. Wasn't your knight in shining armor. [[ParentsAsPeople He was a human being]]. You never knew him, and you never will. [[LovingAShadow The dad walking around in your head isn't even a ghost. He never existed]]. A Frankenstein's monster, a child's fantasy! But you're alive. Your mother is alive. She's not the monster you make her out to be. You need to live your life... Cheryl.]]

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--> '''Kaufmann:''' [[spoiler: Your dad wasn't a hero. Wasn't your knight in shining armor. [[ParentsAsPeople He was a human being]]. You never knew him, and you never will. [[LovingAShadow The dad walking around in your head isn't even a ghost. He never existed]]. A Frankenstein's monster, a child's fantasy! But you're alive. Your mother is alive. She's not the monster you make her out to be. You need to live your life... ]]
-->[[spoiler:'''Kaufman and Harry''':
Cheryl.]]
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*** [[spoiler: Also from "Love Lost", Harry notices Cheryl and tells her, gently, "don't film this." Cheryl's been replaying and replaying her home movies to try to keep her grip on the perfect image of her father throughout the whole game, but never getting to the truth because she rewinds before she gets there. He tells her not to film it because he already knows divorce is tough on a kid, and having such a concrete reminder will only hurt her in the long run; the fact that he understands his daughter so well suggests he really was as attentive and loving as she remembers.]]
* The "Drunk Dad" and "Wicked and Weak" endings count too. In the former, [[spoiler:when he notices Cheryl filming him, a clearly drunk Harry mocks her and than demands that she bring him another beer.]] In the latter, it's revealed that [[spoiler:Harry was abused by Dahlia, and that he apathetically allowed it to happen.]] He really wasn't the loving, kind dad Cheryl had longed for in these endings.

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*** [[spoiler: Also from "Love Lost", Harry notices Cheryl and tells her, gently, "don't "Sweetie, don't film this." Cheryl's been replaying and replaying her home movies to try to keep her grip on the perfect image of her father throughout the whole game, but never getting to the truth because she rewinds before she gets there. He tells her not to film it because he already knows divorce is tough on a kid, and having such a concrete reminder will only hurt her in the long run; the fact that he understands his daughter so well suggests he really was as attentive and loving as she remembers.]]
* The "Drunk Dad" Dad", "Sleaze and Sirens" and "Wicked and Weak" endings count too. In the former, [[spoiler:when he notices Cheryl filming him, a clearly drunk Harry mocks her and than demands that she bring him another beer.]] In the latter, second, it's revealed that [[spoiler:Harry cheated on his wife regularly with younger, more attractive women and even filmed it.]] In the third, it's revealed that [[spoiler:Harry was abused by Dahlia, and that he apathetically allowed it to happen.]] He really wasn't the loving, kind dad Cheryl had longed for in these endings.
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[[https://youtu.be/l6grh4OmyPQ Creeping Distress]]. Melancholic and dark, the perfect song to listen to while searching for your lost daughter in a town you've never been to before.

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[[https://youtu.**[[https://youtu.be/l6grh4OmyPQ Creeping Distress]]. Melancholic and dark, the perfect song to listen to while searching for your lost daughter in a town you've never been to before.
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[[ https://youtu.be/l6grh4OmyPQ Creeping Distress]]. Melancholic and dark, the perfect song to listen to while searching for your lost daughter in a town you've never been to before.

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[[ https://youtu.[[https://youtu.be/l6grh4OmyPQ Creeping Distress]]. Melancholic and dark, the perfect song to listen to while searching for your lost daughter in a town you've never been to before.
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[[ https://youtu.be/l6grh4OmyPQ Creeping Distress]]. Melancholic and dark, the perfect song to listen to while searching for your lost daughter in a town you've never been to before.
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* ''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAsIYidvH7o Acceptance]]''.

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* ''[[http://www.''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAsIYidvH7o com/watch?v=CL0u9_gNUX0 Acceptance]]''.
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* Similarly, [[spoiler: Cheryl's experiences after her father's death were ''far'' from pleasant, as most of the events from the cabin onwards are implied to have happened to her. She was drugged at a party, pressured into having sex by a selfish ex-boyfriend, rumored to be having an affair with a teacher (which was likely [[ParentalSurrogate her confiding in him regarding her personal life instead]]), and she ''definitely'' stabbed a security guard who'd taken pity on her for shoplifting, overreacting to his approach.]]

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* Similarly, [[spoiler: Cheryl's experiences after her father's death were ''far'' from pleasant, as most of the events from the cabin onwards are implied to have happened to her. She was drugged at a party, pressured into having sex by a selfish ex-boyfriend, rumored to be having an affair with a teacher (which was likely [[ParentalSurrogate [[ParentalSubstitute her confiding in him regarding her personal life instead]]), and she ''definitely'' stabbed a security guard who'd taken pity on her for shoplifting, overreacting to his approach.]]
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* Similarly, [[spoiler: Cheryl's experiences after her father's death were ''far'' from pleasant, as most of the events from the cabin onwards are implied to have happened to her. She was drugged at a party, pressured into having sex by a selfish ex-boyfriend, rumored to be having an affair with a teacher (which was likely [[LikeAFatherToMe her confiding in him regarding her personal life instead]]), and she ''definitely'' stabbed a security guard who'd taken pity on her for shoplifting, overreacting to his approach.]]

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* Similarly, [[spoiler: Cheryl's experiences after her father's death were ''far'' from pleasant, as most of the events from the cabin onwards are implied to have happened to her. She was drugged at a party, pressured into having sex by a selfish ex-boyfriend, rumored to be having an affair with a teacher (which was likely [[LikeAFatherToMe [[ParentalSurrogate her confiding in him regarding her personal life instead]]), and she ''definitely'' stabbed a security guard who'd taken pity on her for shoplifting, overreacting to his approach.]]
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* Similarly, [[spoiler: Cheryl's experiences after her father's death were ''far'' from pleasant, as most of the events from the cabin onwards are implied to have happened to her. She was drugged at a party, pressured into having sex by a selfish ex-boyfriend, rumored to be having an affair with a teacher (which was likely her confiding in him regarding her personal life instead), and she ''definitely'' stabbed a security guard who'd taken pity on her for shoplifting, overreacting to his approach.]]

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* Similarly, [[spoiler: Cheryl's experiences after her father's death were ''far'' from pleasant, as most of the events from the cabin onwards are implied to have happened to her. She was drugged at a party, pressured into having sex by a selfish ex-boyfriend, rumored to be having an affair with a teacher (which was likely [[LikeAFatherToMe her confiding in him regarding her personal life instead), instead]]), and she ''definitely'' stabbed a security guard who'd taken pity on her for shoplifting, overreacting to his approach.]]
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* Some players get annoyed at the video of Cheryl and Harry playing over and over again in the beginning. However, it is the last thing that's shown in the game, and since we know the real story by then, it makes the video ten times sadder.

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* Some players get annoyed at the video of Cheryl and Harry playing over and over again in the beginning. However, it is the last thing that's shown in the game, and since we know the real story by then, [[HarsherInHindsight it makes the video ten times sadder.sadder]].

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