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* BrokenAesop: The episode was meant to be a sympathetic portrayal of transgender people yet it never once addresses how society feels about transgender people and how they aren’t something to fear. While Peter’s actions could be the case of HanlonsRazor, it’s blatantly obvious that Lois is transphobic. Yet the episode never highlights how they're wrong for feeling the way they do about Ida, instead opting to present Quagmire in the wrong for not instantly accepting her feelings about herself.
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-->'''Ida:''' You're ruining the ball. You know how much I love balls!\\
'''Quagmire:''' That's not helping!

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-->'''Ida:''' Now calm down! You're ruining the this ball. You know how much I love balls!\\
'''Quagmire:''' Alright, come on now! That's not helping!
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* BrickJoke: Chris practices French words before saying ''phoque'', which is French for seal but sounds like "fuck" to Lois. Later, while listening to Ida's stories, Peter and Joe suspect her to be gay and Peter draws a flamboyant seal, saying that Ida is a ''"big gay phoque"''.

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* BrickJoke: Chris practices French words before saying ''phoque'', which is French for seal but sounds like "fuck" to Lois. Later, while listening to Ida's stories, Peter and Joe suspect her to be gay and Peter draws a large flamboyant seal, saying that Ida is a ''"big gay phoque"''.
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* TransEqualsHypersexual: Glenn's father Dan comes out as transgender and changes her name to Ida. She explicitly talks about what bottom surgery did to her genitals at a family dinner, browses porn on her phone in public, and doesn't disclose to Brian that she's trans before having sex with him.

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* TransgenderFetishization:
** Ida is portrayed as extremely attractive, especially to Brian -- who ends up sleeping with her to set up an UnsettlingGenderReveal gag.
** Despite his concerns, Quagmire begins to fully support Ida near the end, though his RagingStiffie is supposedly more okay with it.
--->'''Quagmire:''' Sorry, sorry! Damn thing can't tell the difference.

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* TransgenderFetishization:
** Ida is portrayed as extremely attractive, especially to Brian -- who ends up sleeping with her to set up an UnsettlingGenderReveal gag.
** Despite his concerns,
TransChaser: Quagmire begins to fully support Ida near copes with the news that his father Dan has come out as transgender and now goes by Ida. At the end, though he finally accepts Ida's identity as a woman, something reflected by his RagingStiffie is supposedly more okay with it.
--->'''Quagmire:'''
[[StrangelyArousing inexplicable erection]].
-->'''Quagmire:'''
Sorry, sorry! Damn thing can't tell the difference.
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* VomitIndiscretionShot: Uppon learning who he slept with, Brian vomits in full view of the audience for half a minute. As the puddle of vomit slowly expands, Stewie has to step back twice.

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* VomitIndiscretionShot: Uppon Upon learning who he slept with, Brian vomits in full view of the audience for half a minute. As the puddle of vomit slowly expands, Stewie has to step back twice.
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* CallBack: Brian getting beaten up by Quagmire after a shower calls to mind [[Recap/FamilyGuyS4E20PatriotGames Patriot Games]]. Like Stewie, Seth [=MacFarlane=] also voices Quagmire but the differences between Patriot Games and this episode is that Brian didn't get to put on his collar after his shower (he tried to hide in Peter and Lois' bed after Quagmire barged into the house).

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* CallBack: Brian getting beaten up by Quagmire after a shower calls to mind [[Recap/FamilyGuyS4E20PatriotGames Patriot Games]]. Like Stewie, Seth [=MacFarlane=] also voices Quagmire but the differences difference between Patriot Games and this episode is that Brian didn't get to put on his collar after his shower (he tried to hide in Peter and Lois' bed after Quagmire barged into the house).
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* CallBack: Brian getting beaten up by Quagmire after a shower calls to mind [[Recap/FamilyGuyS4E20PatriotGames Patriot Games]]. Like Stewie, Seth [=MacFarlane=] also voices Quagmire but the differences between Patriot Games and this episode is that Brian didn't get to put on his collar after his shower (he tried to hide in Peter and Lois' bed after Quagmire barged into the house).
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* ForeignCussWord: Inverted; while learning French, Chris identifies a seal as a "phoque", to which Lois tells him to watch his language, but Chris insists that's what the French word for "seal" really is.
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* ScrubbingOffTheTrauma: After Brian realizes that the woman he slept with was Ida, Quagmire's post-transition father, he [[ScreamingAtSquick screams with Stewie in horror and disgust]] and is next shown in the shower, frantically scrubbing every inch of himself clean.
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* KickTheDog: Quagmire literally does this to Brian during his NoHoldsBarredBeatdown.

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* ArtisticLicenseMedicine: Ida would likely need to go through months, if not over a year of physical therapy after her surgery. With that in mind, it also means her vagina would be in ''no'' shape for nookie.



* EasySexChange: Ida would need to go through months, if not over a year of physical therapy after her surgery. With that in mind, it also means her vagina would be in ''no'' shape for nookie (it's recommended that a transgender woman abstains from sexual activity for at least three months following a vaginoplasty).



* VomitIndiscretionShot: As noted above, upon learning who he slept with, Brian vomits in full view of the audience for half a minute. As the puddle of vomit slowly expands, Stewie has to step back twice.

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* VomitIndiscretionShot: As noted above, upon Uppon learning who he slept with, Brian vomits in full view of the audience for half a minute. As the puddle of vomit slowly expands, Stewie has to step back twice.
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* DisproportionateRetribution: Quagmire giving Brian a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown for unknowingly sleeping with his trans father. Yeah, sure, Brian laughed when he learned about the whole deal with Dan/Ida like an asshole before he got utterly [[ScreamingAtSquick squicked]] at the full truth and pined the bill for the night on her door, but that was likely the furthest thing from Quagmire's mind at the time and still disproportionate even if he was aware.

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* DisproportionateRetribution: Quagmire giving Brian a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown for unknowingly sleeping with his trans father. Yeah, sure, Brian laughed when he learned about the whole deal with Dan/Ida like an asshole before he got utterly [[ScreamingAtSquick squicked]] at the full truth and pined pinned the bill for the night on her door, but that was likely the furthest thing from Quagmire's mind at the time and still disproportionate even if he was aware.
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--->'''Quagmire:''' Sorry, sorry. Damn thing can't tell the difference!

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--->'''Quagmire:''' Sorry, sorry. sorry! Damn thing can't tell the difference!difference.
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-->'''Brian:''' Hey.\\

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-->'''Brian:''' Hey.\\Hey!\\



'''Brian:''' I [[PrecisionFStrike fucked]] your dad.

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'''Brian:''' '''Brian:''' ...I [[PrecisionFStrike fucked]] your dad.
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* SkewedPriorities: Quagmire was worried about his father, Ida, being gay, and the various [[AccidentalInnuendo innuendos]] didn't help. When Ida reveals that she's not gay, but transgender, Quagmire says this:
->"Oh, come on, just be gay!"

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* SkewedPriorities: Quagmire was worried about his father, Ida, being gay, and the various [[AccidentalInnuendo [[DoubleEntendre innuendos]] didn't help. When Ida reveals that she's not gay, but transgender, Quagmire says this:
->"Oh, -->'''Quagmire:''' Oh, come on, just be gay!"gay!
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-->'''Brian:''' Hey.
-->''Quagmire turns around.''
-->'''Brian:''' I [[PrecisionFStrike fucked]] your dad.

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-->'''Brian:''' Hey.
-->''Quagmire
Hey.\\
''(Quagmire
turns around.''
-->'''Brian:'''
around)''\\
'''Brian:'''
I [[PrecisionFStrike fucked]] your dad.

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