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->'''Harvey''': Why?! Why, why ''WHY?!'' It does not stand to reason! How can you remain so defiant in the face of the One True Magic?!\\
'''Osvald''': Is that all you can think of, Harvey? You’ve not changed at all since we met. But some things ''do'' change. '''I''' have [[CharacterDevelopment changed]].\\
'''Harvey''': '''SILENCE!!''' NOT ANOTHER WORD!! Book of Demons, grant me more power! I will use ''whatever'' it takes to defeat you! '''OOOOOOOOOSVAAAAAAAAAAAALD!!!'''
-->--''VideoGame/OctopathTravelerII''
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->''"I don't know, maybe I'm just talking nonsense, but lately if feels like Sonic is just… missing. He went from a laid-back traveler just doing his own thing, to a bland cookie-cutter good guy with no edge. They tried so hard to give him depth, but they didn't realize how much depth was in his simplicity. And sure, you can have [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation different]] [[DependingOnTheWriter interpretations]] of a character, that's fine, but Sonic isn't the kind of character that [[InterpretiveCharacter you can reinvent to fit the story you wanna tell]]. Especially when those stories are connected to the stories that came before. Sonic is a flexible character, absolutely. He's the kind of character you can put in any situation and he'd still stand out. The problem with modern Sonic stories is that the characters revolve around the story instead of the story revolving around the characters."''

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->''"I don't know, ->''"Now, maybe I'm this is just talking nonsense, but lately if feels like a story they're trying to tell in [[ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogIDW IDW]]; a story of Sonic is just… missing. He went from a laid-back traveler just doing [[{{Deconstruction}} facing the consequences]] of [[ThouShaltNotKill his own thing, to a bland cookie-cutter good guy with no edge. They tried so hard to give him depth, but they didn't realize how much depth was in his simplicity. And sure, you can have [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation different]] [[DependingOnTheWriter interpretations]] of a character, flawed philosophy]]. But here's the thing: that's fine, but not Sonic. Sonic isn't the kind of character that [[InterpretiveCharacter you can reinvent to fit the story you wanna tell]]. Especially when those stories are connected to the stories that came before. Sonic is doesn't '''[[{{Ubermensch}} have]]''' a flexible character, absolutely. philosophy. He acts on instinct and lets his actions speak for him, not his words. He's had some inspirational quotes in the kind of character you can put in any situation past, but they were always short and he'd still stand out. The problem with modern Sonic stories is that the characters revolve around the story concise. They felt genuine and down-to-earth instead of the story revolving around the characters.[[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic condescending and lame]]. That kind of [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools simplicity]] has so much [[RoundedCharacter depth]] to it. He doesn't need to grow or mature in order to be interesting, he just '''is''' interesting."''
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->''"I don't know, maybe I'm just talking nonsense, but lately if feels like Sonic is just… missing. He went from a laid-back traveler just doing his own thing, to a bland cookie-cutter good guy with no edge. They tried so hard to give him depth, but they didn't realize how much depth was in his simplicity. And sure, you can have [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation different]] [[DependingOnTheWriter interpretations]] of a character, that's fine, but Sonic isn't the kind of character that [[InterpretiveCharacter you can reinvent to fit the story you wanna tell]]. Especially when those stories are connected to the stories that came before. Sonic is a flexible character, absolutely. He's the kind of character you can put in any situation and he'd still stand out. The problem with modern Sonic stories is that the characters revolve around the story instead of the story revolving around the characters."''
-->-- [[https://youtu.be/6qUFvrbXTA4?feature=shared "Nobody Understands Sonic"]] by '''[[https://www.youtube.com/@PixelrushTheFunnyPixelMan Pixelrush]]'''
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-->-- '''[[https://youtu.be/MWZSrTxJiYM Jill Bearup]]''' on ''Literature/SmallGods''

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-->-- '''[[https://youtu.'''Creator/JillBearup''' on ''Literature/SmallGods'' [[https://youtu.be/MWZSrTxJiYM Jill Bearup]]''' on ''Literature/SmallGods''
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-->-- '''Ten''' on Bryce, ''WebOriginal/TwentyThousandTwenty'', chapter 10

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-->-- '''Ten''' on Bryce, ''WebOriginal/TwentyThousandTwenty'', chapter Chapter 10

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-->-- '''Ten''' on Bryce, ''WebOriginal/TwentyThousandTwenty''

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-->-- '''Ten''' on Bryce, ''WebOriginal/TwentyThousandTwenty''''WebOriginal/TwentyThousandTwenty'', chapter 10
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->''"The character, under the hood, still isn't made for emotion. She's a ''Series/DoctorWho'' companion through and through. Decades after "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS14E2TheHandOfFear The Hand of Fear]]", she has no living family, no romantic attachments, no friends, a job that exists only to justify starting a plot (I believe the last time we saw Sarah Jane [[ForgotFlandersCouldDoThat actually write an article]] was in the opening credits to ''Series/K9AndCompany''). ''The Sarah Jane Adventures'' has given her a family, but they're a family that exists to fight aliens, which is to say, to let her continue functioning as a '70s ''Doctor Who'' companion.

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->''"The character, under the hood, still isn't made for emotion. She's a ''Series/DoctorWho'' companion through and through. Decades after "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS14E2TheHandOfFear The Hand of Fear]]", she has no living family, no romantic attachments, no friends, a job that exists only to justify starting a plot (I believe the last time we saw Sarah Jane [[ForgotFlandersCouldDoThat actually write an article]] was in the opening credits to ''Series/K9AndCompany''). ''The Sarah Jane Adventures'' has given her a family, but they're a family that exists to fight aliens, which is to say, to let her continue functioning as a '70s ''Doctor Who'' companion.''



-->-- '''''Website/TheAgonyBooth''''' on ''Film/StarTrekInsurrection''

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-->-- '''''Website/TheAgonyBooth''''' ''Website/TheAgonyBooth'' on ''Film/StarTrekInsurrection''



-->-- '''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''' on ''VideoGame/ResidentEvilRevelations2''

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-->-- '''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''' '''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''' on ''VideoGame/ResidentEvilRevelations2''



-->-- '''''WebVideo/TotallyNotMark''''' on [[Franchise/DragonBall Son Goku]], who he defines as a static character who inspires change in others.

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-->-- '''''WebVideo/TotallyNotMark''''' '''WebVideo/TotallyNotMark''' on [[Franchise/DragonBall Son Goku]], who he defines as a static character who inspires change in others.



-->-- Creator/GarthEnnis Commentary On The Boys #66. [[https://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/05/03/garth-ennis-commentary-on-boys/ Link]].

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-->-- Creator/GarthEnnis '''Creator/GarthEnnis''' Commentary On The ''The Boys #66.#66''. [[https://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/05/03/garth-ennis-commentary-on-boys/ Link]].
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->''[…] he’d just lean on the side of his Acura hatchback in some parking lot, always wearing these cargo shorts and a gigantic white T-shirt, mumbling into his flip phone, always having some argument with a friend over some $20 weed deal. The only thing he’d ever talk about was how he was going to install undercarriage lights in his hatchback.\\
I checked in on him two hundred years later and he was still doing the exact same thing. In more or less the exact same place.\\
He never got those lights put in. Even in a [[PostScarcityEconomy post-scarcity world]]! A world where you can just go to an ATM and there’s five hundred bucks already waiting in the tray for you! You can go do this whenever you want! And he never did, he just stood around and talked about it!''
-->-- '''Ten''' on Bryce, ''WebOriginal/TwentyThousandTwenty''

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-->--'''Blog/WorstMuse'''

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-->--'''Blog/WorstMuse'''
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-->--'''Frank''', ''Series/HouseOfCardsUS''

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-->--'''Frank''', -->-- '''Frank''', ''Series/HouseOfCardsUS''



-->--'''Creator/RobertBeltran''' on his role in ''Series/StarTrekVoyager''

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-->--'''Creator/RobertBeltran''' -->-- '''Creator/RobertBeltran''' on his role in ''Series/StarTrekVoyager''



-->--'''''Website/TheAgonyBooth''''' on ''Film/StarTrekInsurrection''

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-->--'''''Website/TheAgonyBooth''''' -->-- '''''Website/TheAgonyBooth''''' on ''Film/StarTrekInsurrection''



-->--'''[[http://www.docohobigfinish.blogspot.com/2012/02/voyager-season-one.html Joe Ford]]''' on ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', "[[Recap/StarTrekVoyagerS1E1Caretaker Caretaker]]"

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-->--'''[[http://www.-->-- '''[[http://www.docohobigfinish.blogspot.com/2012/02/voyager-season-one.html Joe Ford]]''' on ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', "[[Recap/StarTrekVoyagerS1E1Caretaker Caretaker]]"



-->--'''[[http://them0vieblog.com/2015/07/17/the-x-files-s-r-819-review/ Darren Mooney]]''' on ''Series/TheXFiles''

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-->--'''[[http://them0vieblog.-->-- '''[[http://them0vieblog.com/2015/07/17/the-x-files-s-r-819-review/ Darren Mooney]]''' on ''Series/TheXFiles''



-->--'''Chris Sims''' and '''David Uzumeri''' [[http://comicsalliance.com/recap-smallville-episode-10-13-beacon/ on]] ''{{Series/Smallville}}'' ("[[Recap/SmallvilleS10E13Beacon Beacon]]")

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-->--'''Chris -->-- '''Chris Sims''' and '''David Uzumeri''' [[http://comicsalliance.com/recap-smallville-episode-10-13-beacon/ on]] ''{{Series/Smallville}}'' ("[[Recap/SmallvilleS10E13Beacon Beacon]]")



-->--'''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''' on ''VideoGame/ResidentEvilRevelations2''

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-->--'''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''' -->-- '''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''' on ''VideoGame/ResidentEvilRevelations2''



-->--'''''WebVideo/TotallyNotMark''''' on [[Franchise/DragonBall Son Goku]], who he defines as a static character who inspires change in others.

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-->--'''''WebVideo/TotallyNotMark''''' -->-- '''''WebVideo/TotallyNotMark''''' on [[Franchise/DragonBall Son Goku]], who he defines as a static character who inspires change in others.



-->--'''[[https://youtu.be/MWZSrTxJiYM Jill Bearup]]''' on ''Literature/SmallGods''

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-->--'''[[https://youtu.-->-- '''[[https://youtu.be/MWZSrTxJiYM Jill Bearup]]''' on ''Literature/SmallGods''
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-->--'''''WebVideo/TotallyNotMark''''' on [[Franchise/DragonBall Son Goku]], who he defines as having a FlatCharacter Arc.

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-->--'''''WebVideo/TotallyNotMark''''' on [[Franchise/DragonBall Son Goku]], who he defines as having a FlatCharacter Arc.
static character who inspires change in others.
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->''[[TheIshmael Brutha]] couldn't be the main arc of the story because him changing significantly would make the story ''less'' satisfying, not more so. He starts as a [[TheGoodShepherd cinnamon roll]] and he ends as a cinnamon roll, albeit an older, wiser and deafer cinnamon roll. [...] Brutha gets smarter, plans better, ends up becoming the head of the entire church and the prophet of prophets, but really, he doesn't ''change'' in the most fundamental way."''

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->''[[TheIshmael Brutha]] couldn't be the main arc of the story because him changing significantly would make the story ''less'' satisfying, not more so. He starts as a [[TheGoodShepherd [[GoodShepherd cinnamon roll]] and he ends as a cinnamon roll, albeit an older, wiser and deafer cinnamon roll. [...] Brutha gets smarter, plans better, ends up becoming the head of the entire church and the prophet of prophets, but really, he doesn't ''change'' in the most fundamental way."''
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->''[[TheIshmael Brutha]] couldn't be the main arc of the story because him changing significantly would make the story ''less'' satisfying, not more so. He starts as a [[TheGoodShepherd cinnamon roll]] and he ends as a cinnamon roll, albeit an older, wiser and deafer cinnamon roll. [...] Brutha gets smarter, plans better, ends up becoming the head of the entire church and the prophet of prophets, but really, he doesn't ''change'' in the most fundamental way."''
-->--'''[[https://youtu.be/MWZSrTxJiYM Jill Bearup]]''' on ''Literature/SmallGods''
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->'''Daisy:''' I've made up with my past, and I am more accepting of my present.\\
'''Peach:''' I've realized I can be selfish, and I'm trying to listen more to others...\\
'''Rosalina:''' I've stayed exactly the same! No changes whatsoever!
-->-- ''Webcomic/The3LittlePrincesses''
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--> '''Eggman:''' You know. We're not so different, you and I. We both have our own styles that we won't change.\\

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--> -> '''Eggman:''' You know. We're not so different, you and I. We both have our own styles that we won't change.\\

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--> '''Eggman:''' You know. We're not so different, you and I. We both have our own styles that we won't change.\\
'''Sonic:''' Yeah, but yours is evil and mine not!\\
'''Eggman:''' Again - agree to disagree.
-->-- '''ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogIDW''', issue 23.




-> ''The reason why Goku remains the focus of ''Franchise/DragonBall'' is due to one simple fact: Goku is ''Dragon Ball''. Everything that happens in ''Dragon Ball'' is due to his character, and it can’t be any other way, so let me explain why. Goku’s character is ideal for a long-running show because unlike Vegeta and Piccolo, his arc doesn’t have an expiring date.(...) Because Goku doesn’t need to change or grow from experience, the intrigue when he interacts with a character or situation comes from how the world or that character reacts to Goku, so technically, Goku can characters like him that implement the Flat Arc have as much intrigue as the world around them does."''

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-> ''The reason why Goku remains the focus of ''Franchise/DragonBall'' is due to one simple fact: Goku is ''Dragon Ball''. Everything that happens in ''Dragon Ball'' is due to his character, and it can’t be any other way, so let me explain why. Goku’s character is ideal for a long-running show because unlike Vegeta and Piccolo, his arc doesn’t have an expiring date.(...) Because Goku doesn’t need to change or grow from experience, the intrigue is when he interacts with a character or situation comes from how the world or that character reacts to Goku, so technically, Goku can and characters like him that implement the Flat Arc have as much intrigue as the world around them does."''
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-> ''The reason why Goku remains the focus of ''Manga/DragonBall'' is due to one simple fact: Goku is ''Dragon Ball''. Everything that happens in ''Dragon Ball'' is due to his character, and it can’t be any other way, so let me explain why. Goku’s character is ideal for a long-running show because unlike Vegeta and Piccolo, his arc doesn’t have an expiring date.(...) Because Goku doesn’t need to change or grow from experience, the intrigue when he interacts with a character or situation comes from how the world or that character reacts to Goku, so technically, Goku can characters like him that implement the Flat Arc have as much intrigue as the world around them does."''
-->--'''''WebVideo/TotallyNotMark''''' on [[Manga/DragonBall Son Goku]], who he defines as having a Flat Character Arc.

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-> ''The reason why Goku remains the focus of ''Manga/DragonBall'' ''Franchise/DragonBall'' is due to one simple fact: Goku is ''Dragon Ball''. Everything that happens in ''Dragon Ball'' is due to his character, and it can’t be any other way, so let me explain why. Goku’s character is ideal for a long-running show because unlike Vegeta and Piccolo, his arc doesn’t have an expiring date.(...) Because Goku doesn’t need to change or grow from experience, the intrigue when he interacts with a character or situation comes from how the world or that character reacts to Goku, so technically, Goku can characters like him that implement the Flat Arc have as much intrigue as the world around them does."''
-->--'''''WebVideo/TotallyNotMark''''' on [[Manga/DragonBall [[Franchise/DragonBall Son Goku]], who he defines as having a Flat Character FlatCharacter Arc.
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-->--'''Robert Beltran''' on his role in ''Series/StarTrekVoyager''

->''"The character, under the hood, still isn't made for emotion. She's a ''Series/DoctorWho'' companion through and through. Decades after [[Recap/DoctorWhoS14E2TheHandOfFear 'The Hand of Fear']], she has no living family, no romantic attachments, no friends, a job that exists only to justify starting a plot (I believe the last time we saw Sarah Jane [[ForgotFlandersCouldDoThat actually write an article]] was in the opening credits to ''Series/K9AndCompany''). ''The Sarah Jane Adventures'' has given her a family, but they're a family that exists to fight aliens, which is to say, to let her continue functioning as a '70s ''Doctor Who'' companion.

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-->--'''Robert Beltran''' -->--'''Creator/RobertBeltran''' on his role in ''Series/StarTrekVoyager''

->''"The character, under the hood, still isn't made for emotion. She's a ''Series/DoctorWho'' companion through and through. Decades after [[Recap/DoctorWhoS14E2TheHandOfFear 'The "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS14E2TheHandOfFear The Hand of Fear']], Fear]]", she has no living family, no romantic attachments, no friends, a job that exists only to justify starting a plot (I believe the last time we saw Sarah Jane [[ForgotFlandersCouldDoThat actually write an article]] was in the opening credits to ''Series/K9AndCompany''). ''The Sarah Jane Adventures'' has given her a family, but they're a family that exists to fight aliens, which is to say, to let her continue functioning as a '70s ''Doctor Who'' companion.



-->--'''[[http://www.docohobigfinish.blogspot.com/2012/02/voyager-season-one.html Joe Ford]]''' on ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', "Caretaker"

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-->--'''[[http://www.docohobigfinish.blogspot.com/2012/02/voyager-season-one.html Joe Ford]]''' on ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', "Caretaker"
"[[Recap/StarTrekVoyagerS1E1Caretaker Caretaker]]"



-->--'''Chris Sims''' and '''David Uzumeri''' [[http://comicsalliance.com/recap-smallville-episode-10-13-beacon/ on]] ''{{Series/Smallville}}'' ("Beacon")

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-->--'''Chris Sims''' and '''David Uzumeri''' [[http://comicsalliance.com/recap-smallville-episode-10-13-beacon/ on]] ''{{Series/Smallville}}'' ("Beacon")
("[[Recap/SmallvilleS10E13Beacon Beacon]]")



->''No doubt [[ComicBook/TheBoys Hughie]]’s tendency to mope and turn inwards is a source of frustration to many readers, all used to comic heroes who [[CharacterDevelopment learn from experience and develop into fully-rounded characters ready to handle anything]]. [[RealityIsUnrealistic In my experience this is like no one who’s ever existed in real life]]; even the most capable people either maintain or eventually return to their essential flaws. I doubt any twenty-something lad unused to trauma and violence could simply absorb it straightaway, and if he did become hardened or inured it would be as a different, less sensitive person. In other words, Hughie’s bizarre triumph is that he remains Hughie.''

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->''No doubt [[ComicBook/TheBoys Hughie]]’s tendency to mope and turn inwards is a source of frustration to many readers, all used to comic heroes who [[CharacterDevelopment learn from experience and develop into fully-rounded characters ready to handle anything]]. [[RealityIsUnrealistic In my experience this is like no one who’s ever existed in real life]]; even the most capable people either maintain or eventually return to their essential flaws. I doubt any twenty-something lad unused to trauma and violence could simply absorb it straightaway, and if he did become hardened or inured it would be as a different, less sensitive person. In other words, Hughie’s Hughie's bizarre triumph is that he remains Hughie.''
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-> ''The reason why Goku remains the focus of ''Manga/DragonBall'' is due to one simple fact: Goku is ''Dragon Ball''. Everything that happens in ''Dragon Ball'' is due to his character, and it can’t be any other way, so let me explain why. Goku’s character is ideal for a long-running show because unlike Vegeta and Piccolo, his arc doesn’t have an expiring date.(...) Because Goku doesn’t need to change or grow from experience, the intrigue when he interacts with a character or situation comes from how the world or that character reacts to Goku, so technically, Goku can characters like him that implement the Flat Arc have as much intrigue as the world around them does."''
-->--'''''WebVideo/TotallyNotMark''''' on [[Manga/DragonBall Son Goku]], who he defines as having a Flat Character Arc.
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->''No doubt [[ComicBook/TheBoys Hughie]]’s tendency to mope and turn inwards is a source of frustration to many readers, all used to comic heroes who [[CharacterDevelopment learn from experience and develop into fully-rounded characters ready to handle anything]]. [[RealityIsUnrealistic In my experience this is like no one who’s ever existed in real life]]; even the most capable people either maintain or eventually return to their essential flaws. I doubt any twenty-something lad unused to trauma and violence could simply absorb it straightaway, and if he did become hardened or inured it would be as a different, less sensitive person. In other words, Hughie’s bizarre triumph is that he remains Hughie.''
-->-- Creator/GarthEnnis Commentary On The Boys #66. [[https://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/05/03/garth-ennis-commentary-on-boys/ Link]].
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-->-- '''Dr. Phil Sandifer''' [[http://www.eruditorumpress.com/blog/outside-the-government-the-temptation-of-sarah-jane-smith/ on]] ''Series/TheSarahJaneAdventures'', [[{{Recap/TheSarahJaneAdventuresS2E9E10TheTemptationOfSarahJaneSmith}} "The Temptation of Sarah-Jane Smith"]]

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-->-- '''Dr. Phil El Sandifer''' [[http://www.eruditorumpress.com/blog/outside-the-government-the-temptation-of-sarah-jane-smith/ on]] ''Series/TheSarahJaneAdventures'', [[{{Recap/TheSarahJaneAdventuresS2E9E10TheTemptationOfSarahJaneSmith}} "The Temptation of Sarah-Jane Smith"]]

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