Quotes: Darker and Edgier

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    Comic Books 

Dr. Sivana: And now the conclusion approaches. The end. The death of Captain Marvel! I hope you're all paying attention.
Dr. Sawvana: ''Bring them to me! The pretty little heroine, the bright boy! I can't wait to mess them up bad.
Dr. Sivana: Er... quite.
The Multiversity: Thunderworld #1

"The Incredible Squirrel that I created for my old TV show was a cute little guy who had fun stopping goofy bad-guys! This movies too serious. Its not fun at all!"
Clarence Heck protesting a Batman-like movie adaptation of his puppet character, Chip 'n Dale Rescue Rangers issue #10

    Film — Live Action 

Tex Richman: The Moopets are a hard, cynical act for a hard, cynical world.
Miss Poogy: You're relics, Muppets! The world has moved on, and no one cares about your goody-goody, hippy-dippy, Julie Andrews and Dom DeLuise hostin, singin-and-dancin act anymore! You're dead! And I just come to bury ya.


"My own adventure turned out to be quite different."
Frodo Baggins, The Lord of the Rings


Sometimes I wish Roger Moore would come back!
With an underwater car or some kind of jetpack,
Or a hover-gondola and a Union Jack!
Forget it, mate, its not the eighties
Hed rather kick you in the face
Weve got a new Bond for the noughties
Because the worlds a TERRIBLE place!


"And you, Doctor? I had at least expected some incoherent 'But of course! I should have known: your name is Jade and green is the colour of death, and there's too much death and if only we could all just appreciate the beauty of a daisy and perhaps I should play them my spoons!' Except you don't do that anymore, do you, Doctor? You don't play your spoons, don't mix your metaphors, don't - have - fun. Too busy destroying planets, tidying up your previous mistakes, dreary navel-gazing..."
Jade/Death, Big Finish Doctor Who, Master


    Web Original 

"Certainly it seems like half my professional existence is spent on some level trying to persuade people that games are becoming more mature all the time. But there are various interpretations of the word mature, and its a paradox I've noticed before that a lot of games that receive mature certificates would only be of interest to twelve-year-olds."

"In 2010, the Mortal Kombat franchise was pretty much done and dusted. That's when Kevin Tancharoen released an eight minute short film onto the internet, which was apparently made as a pitch to WB for a new MK movie. Unlike the last two movies, which basically took the supernatural weirdness of the games at face value, this proposed film would take the series in a grittier, more realistic direction. Not an awful idea, really, but probably much more difficult than you'd think, given the base plot of the games.

So the whole Earthrealm/Outworld thing has been dropped entirely, with everything being set in a slumhole called 'Deacon City.' Jax and Sonya are cops here, trying to take down serial killers like Reptile, who's been made into a guy with a skin condition. Who still eats people's heads. Huh...Baraka is a plastic surgeon who went insane after killing a patient, sharpening his teeth into blades and grafting blades into his arms. Oh, yeah, and he kills Johnny Cage. At least some things never change."

"(Tim) Burton and (Anton) Furstís vision of Gotham City was less about recreating New York and more about building something that fit the characters, and moving away from the campiness of the í60s show and its pastel colors and pop-art sets. Looking back, they ended up with something that was exactly as campy, just in a slightly different way."
Chris Sims on Batman (1989)

"Yes, in this version not only does Scrooge belittle Cratchit, he sends him to the soup line. Now Iíve not mentioned this yet, but this is, without question, the most depressing version of this show Iíve ever seen. I mean, itís nothing that will make you reach for the Kleenex, but it will have your mouth agape at just how dark the whole thing is."

""The Twin Dilemma" doesnít happen in a vacuum. Itís the spiritual successor of Davison era stories like "Resurrection of the Daleks" or "Warriors of the Deep". It might not dabble as heavily in the showís tangled continuity as those installments, but thereís the underlying nastiness at play here. Thereís a grim nihilism at the heart of The Twin Dilemma that has been fermenting during Peter Davisonís era and which would really be pushed to the fore during Colin Bakerís tenure in the role...Given the episodeís harsh final line, and the Sixth Doctorís smug dismissal of his predecessor, itís clear that the show is trying to argue that this is a harsher Doctor for a harsher universe.
Thereís the familiar insecurity of this era at play here. The Eric Saward era of Doctor Who has an obvious discomfort with being optimistic and cheerful. Thereís a sense of resentment of these values as inherently immature and childish. Ever over-compensating, the suggestion is that only dark and cynical stories can really be truly adult. Itís no coincidence that the next season opens with the gratuitous and gory "Attack of the Cybermen"."

"Enterprise appears to be a Trek series for those who felt Trek had undergone an appallingly ďsensitiveĒ makeover in its incarnations of the late-80s and 1990s. The most recent Trek series after the first spin-off, The Next Generation, featured, respectively, an African-American and a female captain in the lead. Enterprise set about to restore the Trekkian status quo with a white male captain who, especially in the first two seasons of the series, spouted xenophobic rhetoric and seemed far more uncomfortable with women in command than Captain Kirk ever did in the Classic Trek of the 60s. Indeed, Enterpriseís captain, Jonathan Archer, expressed the same discomfort with strong women espoused not by Captain Kirk but by the Captain whom Kirk replaced in the first Trek pilot episode, ďThe Cage.Ē"

"Outside the government, beyond the policeÖ" — oh fuck off and have a penis reduction 'cause clearly its going to your head! ... Jack suggests that Gwenís whole life will be packed away and go unnoticed after she dies because she was a part of Torchwood? Why? What a horribly cynical point if view. How could she possibly be any danger after she has died? What about all those assistants of the Doctorís walking about having witnessed all kinds of aliens and advanced technology? Why doesnít the Doctor do the same thing? Oh yeah, because he isnít a complete moron trying to pretend that he is an important "secret organisation.""''

"Watching Bulk and Skull, two of the most enduring, lovable characters in the showís history, being portrayed as foul-mouthed white trash who sell out the human race to aliens, murder their friends, and then die of drug overdoses was basically the equivalent of watching Winnie the Pooh go postal on the Hundred Acre Wood. But after watching it through a few more times, it became clear that what I was seeing was not meant to be taken remotely seriously. Itís a Joseph Kahn film, after all... Itís a commentary not just on the film industry, but also on fan films themselves. Iíve watched plenty of fan films before, and I know that what Kahn is saying is true: many of them take themselves far, far too seriously. In fact, a grimdark Power Rangers fan film was released not long ago, only without any of the irony of Kahnís version."

David: Booster declares that heís not just there to be a hero, he actually wants to replace Superman in history, which is the defining point that turns Smallville Booster Gold from the somewhat lovable and kind of selfish but ultimately good-hearted and heroic Booster of the comics to a complete asshole...So in one episode, they managed to turn Jaime Reyes into a complete wuss, Ted Kord into Dick Cheney, and Dan Garrett into a random soldier who ended up going rabid. And Booster Gold into a gloryhound who actually wants to take away from other peoplesí success. Well done, Geoff Johns.
Chris: Hey, at least it had the names you recognize from stuff you like!
ComicsAlliance on Smallville ("Booster")

"Nine years of learning to be a hero and were rewarded with a Superman who blows up buildings? #@$*ing really?

... Batman shot Darkseid with a gun. I can look at that and say, Well, thats just Grant Morrison being an imbecile.

Superman can execute villains and I can say, Well, bad story choice, but they were at least trying to explore the morality of something.

Chuck Austen can have Superman threaten to pop the head of the Silver Banshee and I can wait a few months until his replacement comes along.

I am not thrown from the saddle easily, as I have proven with this show time and again, and I am the ultimate example of the kind of fan this show and comics in general want. I want to finish a thing just because I started it."
Neal Bailey on Smallville ("Persuasion")

"Beneath all the incoherence, this is quickly becoming a story based on the same overused high concept that every armchair quarterback Batman fan probably imagines as his magnum opus: Batman doesnít kill. But what if heÖ KILLED? DUN DUN DUN. Seeing Bruce sit here and have this endless monologue as though this is the first time the idea occurred to him is pretty tiresome."
Laura Hudson and David Wolkin, The Complete and Utter Insanity of Batman Odyssey

"Identity Crisis didnít invent this game, but it plays it to such an extreme that it now owns it like Tiger Woods owns golf. It served as a battle cry, a signal to open the floodgates and let loose such other great moments of the decade as Wonder Dog Eats Marvin And Hunts Wendy, and Mr. Mind As Very Serious Spider-Bat Thing....Identity Crisis opens with a caption that reads, 'Thirty Minutes Till Now'. It is a declaration: you are in the past. I will bring you to the now. And it does. Among the images that are captioned as Now are a tombstone, an old hand clutching a newspaper, and the burned and disfigured corpse of a pregnant woman. Identity Crisis is the embodiment of all of the worst aspects of current super-hero comics. Welcome to the now."

"You have an amazing art form, a medium thatís able to produce things like Fun Home and Maus, and yet when people look at it they mostly see endless variations on these same ideas, and to do something new with his 50th superhero deconstruction, the only think (Mark) Millar can think of is to add more shock value. So we have the same story that was used to sell kids cereal and action figures 50 years ago, only now with more rape! Ask yourself if thatís progress. The fans are part of the problem, as well... Itís like if somebody went around calling themselves a serious cineaste, and the only films they had ever seen in their life were Ninja Turtles movies. I use that as an example because I actually *like* Ninja Turtles, but I can recognize that thereís a difference between The Secret of the Ooze and Citizen Kane."

"Whenever a studio executive needs a reboot of something and his sole creative direction is "Make it grittier!", Snyder is the dude they call. He'll totally bro up your Superman by sucking all the joy out of every frame and adding muscles. Big, ripply, 300-style muscles. Oh, did you want Superman to be a shining light of morality in a harsh and cruel world? Screw that candy-ass shit. Superbro is gonna crush some buildings and give zero fucks about collateral damage. Grittiness: unlocked."
Drew Magary, "The 25 Least Influential People of 2013"

"Sony, a multimedia corporate giant run by full-grown adults, paid $1 million for a screenplay called Winters Knight, a gritty interpretation of the Santa Claus legend, because everyone in Hollywood has lost their fucking minds."

"Sadly, Advent Children was a hit, racking up millions in DVD sales. If FFVII ever did get remade, chances are high itll keep itself a lot closer to the look, feel, and aggravating sensibilities of Advent Children than Crisis Core, the FFVII pseudo-sequel on the forgotten PSP that served as a much better FFVII retread. FFVII isn't nothing but charmless, emotionless characters moping through a steampunk Disneyland, as Advent Children depicts...Take away whatever charm the original game provided, and youre left with a murky, unlovable mess.

Just like
Advent Children!"

    Web Video 

"Now, before this movie came out, this is what everyone heard:

"It's the BEST of the three prequels! Its the DARKEST of the three! It's a lot BETTER and DARKER than the other two films!"

Who gives a crap how dark it is? My stool is dark! My doctor says that's bad... I don't know why he thinks he knows so much about interior decorating, though.

Mike: It's totally in-character for Spock to jump onto a flying hover-vehicle and punch someone repeatedly in the face
Rich: While screaming emotionally?
Mike: —while screaming 'I'm gonna kill you, you cocksucker motherfucker.'
Jack: Leonard Nimoy was a pinch more nuanced.

"I cant believe that Rick Berman, who was often the stickler on the show for staying true to Gene's "vision", now has his name on the script for an episode where the Captain of the Enterprise is beating the crap out of a weakling."
SFDebris on Star Trek: Enterprise ("Carpenter Street")

OOC: You've been complain' for years about WCW: everything is black robes, black ring, black...
V1: Black and grey. The only color worse than to have everything black is everything grey.
Jay: Like dog-vision. (everyone guffaws)
OOC: It's quite depressing.
V1: It really is.
OSW Review on Thunder (David Arquette trilogy), Ep. 33

    Western Animation 

"We're here to make coffee metal. We will make everything metal, blacker than the blackest black, times infinity."
Nathan Explosion, Metalocalypse

    Real Life 

"The fact that it is listed as Kid Friendly was a big selling point for them because, let's face it, comics aren't exactly for kids anymore."
Tom Siddell on Gunnerkrigg Court

"It all started in the Seventies with the appearance of heroes like The Punisher and Wolverine. Instead of being hurled into a swirling dimensional vortex to seeming oblivion, a super-villain was now more likely to take a bullet to the brain, or a claw through the heart! Committing crimes and fighting superheroes became dangerous!

No wonder the bad guys started behaving a little rowdier — can you blame em? Suddenly, villains like Doctor Doom — who'd up till now pranced around with an air of menace but never actually DID anything to anybody — started bumping off people left and right... some of em just for snoring too loudly!"
— Marvel Year in Review 1993

"The show opened in a manner most bizarre, as Bischoff, Sean Waltman, Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, and the rest of the group circled the arena riding atop garbage trucks. Say what you want about him, but even the most jaded skeptic has to give Bischoff points for originality: certainly no pay-per-view in the history of pro wrestling had begun in such a manner. Even the set pieces on the show were unique. The standard bright and gaudy WCW sets were vacant, and in their place was a dark, industrial look from which it appeared no color could escape. The entrance was black, the ring apron was black, the ropes were black, and the turnbuckles were black. Aside from a few white nWo logos splashed around the arena, everything was black. In addition, the group's trademark camera tricks were in full effect, with static blacking out the picture at random intervals. The bizarre camera angles likely had first-time viewers wondering if they were watching wrestling or an old episode of the '60s Batman TV show...In addition to the matches, the show also featured a Miss nWo contest, as middle-aged women straddling Harley-Davidson motorcycles proclaimed their love to the New World Order. It was neither erotic nor comical, but more like what would happen if your mom had a pageant with her friends and they all said they wanted to grope Kevin Nash. Doesn't sound like a good time, does it? The fans in the arena weren't amused, and immediately began to chant "Boring," as Bischoff himself began to mack on the scag biker chicks onstage."
R. D. Reynolds and Bryan Alvarez on nWo Souled Out (1997), The Death of WCW