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->"You are erased from ''Series/DoctorWho''!"

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->"You ->''"You are erased from ''Series/DoctorWho''!"''Series/DoctorWho''!"''
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->"I think [[Creator/AlfredHitchcock Hitch]] and I could have really hit it off, but the script kept getting in the way."

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->"I ->''"I think [[Creator/AlfredHitchcock Hitch]] and I could have really hit it off, but the script kept getting in the way.""''



->"Only a few. [[BaitAndSwitchComment Every single minute of the day.]] That could have been a really, really great movie. The script was so good. There’s maybe one take in the final cut movie that is mine...He kept telling me to do things [[WorldOfHam louder, louder, louder.]] I think he was deaf."

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->"Only ->''"Only a few. [[BaitAndSwitchComment Every single minute of the day.]] That could have been a really, really great movie. The script was so good. There’s maybe one take in the final cut movie that is mine...He kept telling me to do things [[WorldOfHam louder, louder, louder.]] I think he was deaf.""''



->"Tom and [[Creator/WhoopiGoldberg Whoopi]] hated each other, it was a tense set. I've never seen two people hate each other more. I don't think she liked him from the get-go, and second of all Whoopi wanted to do an anti-drug film and that's not what the film was."

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->"Tom ->''"Tom and [[Creator/WhoopiGoldberg Whoopi]] hated each other, it was a tense set. I've never seen two people hate each other more. I don't think she liked him from the get-go, and second of all Whoopi wanted to do an anti-drug film and that's not what the film was.""''



->"You would think at some point I’d get a call saying she was sorry, that she was tired, and then the call never comes.”

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->"You ->''"You would think at some point I’d get a call saying she was sorry, that she was tired, and then the call never comes.”''
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->"You are erased from ''Series/DoctorWho''!"
-->--'''Creator/StevenMoffat''' overheard shouting at former executive producer Caroline Skinner
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->"Tuvok is ranting and throwing papers about in frustration. I believe this scene was inspired by Creator/RobertBeltran reading his script once."
-->--'''{{Website/SFDebris}}''' on ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', "[[Recap/StarTrekVoyagerS7E23Endgame Endgame]]"
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->"You would think at some point I’d get a call saying she was sorry, that she was tired, and then the call never comes.”
-->--'''Creator/JuddApatow''' on parting ways with Creator/KatherineHeigl
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->"Only a few. [[BaitAndSwitchComment Every single minute of the day.]] That could have been a really, really great movie. The script was so good. There’s maybe one take in the final cut movie that is mine...He kept telling me to do things [[WorldOfHam louder, louder, louder.]] I think he was deaf."
-->--'''Creator/BillMurray''' when asked if he had any disagreements with Creator/RichardDonner over ''{{Film/Scrooged}}''

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->''"Sounds like they're having a spat. One of those 'differences in musical direction' bands are always splitting up over."''
-->-- '''Trucy Wright''' on The Gavinners, ''VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney''


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->"Tom and [[Creator/WhoopiGoldberg Whoopi]] hated each other, it was a tense set. I've never seen two people hate each other more. I don't think she liked him from the get-go, and second of all Whoopi wanted to do an anti-drug film and that's not what the film was."
-->--'''Creator/BradDourif''' on ''Film/FatalBeauty''
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->"I think [[AlfredHitchcock Hitch]] and I could have really hit it off, but the script kept getting in the way."

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->"I think [[AlfredHitchcock [[Creator/AlfredHitchcock Hitch]] and I could have really hit it off, but the script kept getting in the way."
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->"I think [[AlfredHitchcock Hitch]] and I could have really hit it off, but the script kept getting in the way."
-->--'''Creator/PaulNewman''' on making ''Film/TornCurtain''.
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-->--'''{{Website/SFDebris}}''' on ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', "[[Recap/StarTrekVoyagerS7E23Edgame Endgame]]"

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-->--'''{{Website/SFDebris}}''' on ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', "[[Recap/StarTrekVoyagerS7E23Edgame "[[Recap/StarTrekVoyagerS7E23Endgame Endgame]]"
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-->--'''{{Website/SFDebris}}''' on ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', "[[Recap/StarTrekVoyagerS7E25Endgame Endgame]]"

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-->--'''{{Website/SFDebris}}''' on ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', "[[Recap/StarTrekVoyagerS7E25Endgame "[[Recap/StarTrekVoyagerS7E23Edgame Endgame]]"
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->"Tuvok is ranting and throwing papers about in frustration. I believe this scene was inspired by Robert Beltran reading his script once."
-->--'''{{Website/SFDebris}}''' on ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', "Endgame"

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->"Tuvok is ranting and throwing papers about in frustration. I believe this scene was inspired by Robert Beltran Creator/RobertBeltran reading his script once."
-->--'''{{Website/SFDebris}}''' on ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', "Endgame""[[Recap/StarTrekVoyagerS7E25Endgame Endgame]]"

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-->-- '''Trucy Wright''' on '''The Gavinners''', ''VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney''

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-->-- '''Trucy Wright''' on '''The Gavinners''', ''VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney''The Gavinners, ''VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney''

->"Tuvok is ranting and throwing papers about in frustration. I believe this scene was inspired by Robert Beltran reading his script once."
-->--'''{{Website/SFDebris}}''' on ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', "Endgame"
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->I mean, he shit on the show like I have never heard. All the crabby internet stuff balled into one nuclear weapon. He hated the show, hated the characters, hated the concept, just thought it was a piece of shit. It was one hell of a job interview. I don’t even know why he came, to be honest. At the same time, I saw some of his critiques were not invalid.
-->--'''Brannon Braga''' on producing ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'', ''Uncharted Territory''

->Since I’m pretty sure there’s a journalism law that says you can’t interview The Father of Star Wars without asking him about the newest Star Wars movie, Charlie Rose brought up ''[[Film/TheForceAwakens Star Wars: The Force Awakens]]''. And guess what? [[Creator/GeorgeLucas George]] didn’t like it. According to George, Star Wars: The Force Awakens was [[{{Hypocrite}} a “retro movie” and a cash-grab that pandered to the fans]]...George sold the ''Star Wars'' franchise to the house of mouse back in 2012 for $4 billion. Although as you’ll hear around the 2:00 mark, he uses a completely different nickname for them. ''“The white slavers“''? Oh boy. Somewhere on Naboo, George’s best pal Jar Jar Binks is like ''“Err…meesa don’t know him.”''
-->--'''[[http://dlisted.com/2015/12/31/george-lucas-came-for-disney-during-an-interview-with-charlie-rose/ Michael K.]]''', "Or if you’d rather be the one saying “This is such a crappy cash-grab” for 55 minutes, skip George’s interview and watch the ''Film/TheStarWarsHolidaySpecial'' instead"

->In this feature we examine comic book stories and ideas that were not only abandoned, but also had the stories/plots specifically 'overturned' by a later writer (as if they were a legal precedent).
-->--'''''Comics Should Be Good''''', ''The Abandoned An' Forsaked''

->''Stradleyism: The act of dismissing an element of {{canon}} altogether on grounds of it being "stupid", without taking the effort to do something interesting with it.''
-->-- '''Thefourdotelipsis''', [[http://starwars.wikia.com/ Wookieepedia]], on Creator/DarkHorseComics writer Randy Stradley.

->This really feels like one of those things where the people writing the show were having some huge, passive-aggressive argument through their scripts without ever talking to each other. Like Creator/GeoffJohns clearly wanted the door open for more [[ComicBook/{{Legion of Super-Heroes}} Legion]] appearances, but then the next guy was like "NUH UH THAT'S DUMB!" and then the guy who wrote this one was like "[[NoYou NO YOU'RE DUMB]]," and the end result is that once again, Clark completely shirks any responsibility so that he [[StatusQuoIsGod can continue doing nothing.]]
-->-- ''[=ComicsAlliance=]'' [[http://comicsalliance.com/recap-smallville-episode-8-22-doomsday/ on]] ''Series/{{Smallville}}'' ("[[Recap/SmallvilleS08E22Doomsday Doomsday]]")

->Part of the difficulty in tracking the fallout of [[Creator/AlanMoore Moore’s]] split with [[Creator/DCComics DC]] is simply that it’s so extensive. Once the rupture began it spread quickly, fueled in no small part by Alan Moore’s tendency to, as he’s put it, [[TakeThisJobAndShoveIt burn his bridges]] when reacting against something so as to make sure he’s never tempted to go second guess himself... But if Moore was, consciously or unconsciously, looking for a reason to walk away from DC, it’s just as true that DC was looking for a reason to [[GetOut push Moore towards the exit]]. Certainly they seem to have done little to try to keep him on board.
-->--'''[[http://www.philipsandifer.com/blog/1-crimes-shall-never-be-presented-in-such-a-way-as-to-create-sympathy-for-the-criminal-to-promote-distrust-of-the-forces-of-law-and-justice-or-to-inspire-others-with-a-desire-to-imitate-criminals-the-last-war-in-albion-book-two-part-fifteen-alan-moores-falling-out-with-dc/ El Sandifer]]''', ''The Last War in Albion''
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-->-- ''[=ComicsAlliance=]'' [[http://comicsalliance.com/recap-smallville-episode-8-22-doomsday/ on]] ''Series/{{Smallville}}'' ("Doomsday")

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-->-- ''[=ComicsAlliance=]'' [[http://comicsalliance.com/recap-smallville-episode-8-22-doomsday/ on]] ''Series/{{Smallville}}'' ("Doomsday")
("[[Recap/SmallvilleS08E22Doomsday Doomsday]]")
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->''"Sounds like they're having a spat. One of those 'differences in musical direction' bands are always splitting up over."''
-->-- '''Trucy Wright''' on '''The Gavinners''', ''VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney''
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-->--'''[[http://www.philipsandifer.com/blog/1-crimes-shall-never-be-presented-in-such-a-way-as-to-create-sympathy-for-the-criminal-to-promote-distrust-of-the-forces-of-law-and-justice-or-to-inspire-others-with-a-desire-to-imitate-criminals-the-last-war-in-albion-book-two-part-fifteen-alan-moores-falling-out-with-dc/ Phil Sandifer]]''', ''The Last War in Albion''

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-->--'''[[http://www.philipsandifer.com/blog/1-crimes-shall-never-be-presented-in-such-a-way-as-to-create-sympathy-for-the-criminal-to-promote-distrust-of-the-forces-of-law-and-justice-or-to-inspire-others-with-a-desire-to-imitate-criminals-the-last-war-in-albion-book-two-part-fifteen-alan-moores-falling-out-with-dc/ Phil El Sandifer]]''', ''The Last War in Albion''
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->Since I’m pretty sure there’s a journalism law that says you can’t interview The Father of Star Wars without asking him about the newest Star Wars movie, Charlie Rose brought up ''[[Film/TheForceAwakens Star Wars: The Force Awakens]]''. And guess what? [[Creator/GeorgeLucas George]] didn’t like it. According to George, Star Wars: The Force Awakens was [[{{Hypocrite}} a “retro movie” and a cash-grab that pandered to the fans]]...BGeorge sold the ''Star Wars'' franchise to the house of mouse back in 2012 for $4 billion. Although as you’ll hear around the 2:00 mark, he uses a completely different nickname for them. ''“The white slavers“''? Oh boy. Somewhere on Naboo, George’s best pal Jar Jar Binks is like ''“Err…meesa don’t know him.”''

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->Since I’m pretty sure there’s a journalism law that says you can’t interview The Father of Star Wars without asking him about the newest Star Wars movie, Charlie Rose brought up ''[[Film/TheForceAwakens Star Wars: The Force Awakens]]''. And guess what? [[Creator/GeorgeLucas George]] didn’t like it. According to George, Star Wars: The Force Awakens was [[{{Hypocrite}} a “retro movie” and a cash-grab that pandered to the fans]]...BGeorge George sold the ''Star Wars'' franchise to the house of mouse back in 2012 for $4 billion. Although as you’ll hear around the 2:00 mark, he uses a completely different nickname for them. ''“The white slavers“''? Oh boy. Somewhere on Naboo, George’s best pal Jar Jar Binks is like ''“Err…meesa don’t know him.”''
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->Since I’m pretty sure there’s a journalism law that says you can’t interview The Father of Star Wars without asking him about the newest Star Wars movie, Charlie Rose brought up ''Film/StarWarsTheForceAwakens''. And guess what? [[Creator/GeorgeLucas George]] didn’t like it. According to George, Star Wars: The Force Awakens was [[{{Hypocrite}} a “retro movie” and a cash-grab that pandered to the fans]]...BGeorge sold the ''Star Wars'' franchise to the house of mouse back in 2012 for $4 billion. Although as you’ll hear around the 2:00 mark, he uses a completely different nickname for them. ''“The white slavers“''? Oh boy. Somewhere on Naboo, George’s best pal Jar Jar Binks is like ''“Err…meesa don’t know him.”''

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->Since I’m pretty sure there’s a journalism law that says you can’t interview The Father of Star Wars without asking him about the newest Star Wars movie, Charlie Rose brought up ''Film/StarWarsTheForceAwakens''.''[[Film/TheForceAwakens Star Wars: The Force Awakens]]''. And guess what? [[Creator/GeorgeLucas George]] didn’t like it. According to George, Star Wars: The Force Awakens was [[{{Hypocrite}} a “retro movie” and a cash-grab that pandered to the fans]]...BGeorge sold the ''Star Wars'' franchise to the house of mouse back in 2012 for $4 billion. Although as you’ll hear around the 2:00 mark, he uses a completely different nickname for them. ''“The white slavers“''? Oh boy. Somewhere on Naboo, George’s best pal Jar Jar Binks is like ''“Err…meesa don’t know him.”''
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->Since I’m pretty sure there’s a journalism law that says you can’t interview The Father of Star Wars without asking him about the newest Star Wars movie, Charlie Rose brought up ''Film/Star WarsTheForceAwakens''. And guess what? [[Creator/GeorgeLucas George]] didn’t like it. According to George, Star Wars: The Force Awakens was [[{{Hypocrite}} a “retro movie” and a cash-grab that pandered to the fans]]...BGeorge sold the ''Star Wars'' franchise to the house of mouse back in 2012 for $4 billion. Although as you’ll hear around the 2:00 mark, he uses a completely different nickname for them. ''“The white slavers“''? Oh boy. Somewhere on Naboo, George’s best pal Jar Jar Binks is like ''“Err…meesa don’t know him.”''

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->Since I’m pretty sure there’s a journalism law that says you can’t interview The Father of Star Wars without asking him about the newest Star Wars movie, Charlie Rose brought up ''Film/Star WarsTheForceAwakens''.''Film/StarWarsTheForceAwakens''. And guess what? [[Creator/GeorgeLucas George]] didn’t like it. According to George, Star Wars: The Force Awakens was [[{{Hypocrite}} a “retro movie” and a cash-grab that pandered to the fans]]...BGeorge sold the ''Star Wars'' franchise to the house of mouse back in 2012 for $4 billion. Although as you’ll hear around the 2:00 mark, he uses a completely different nickname for them. ''“The white slavers“''? Oh boy. Somewhere on Naboo, George’s best pal Jar Jar Binks is like ''“Err…meesa don’t know him.”''
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->Since I’m pretty sure there’s a journalism law that says you can’t interview The Father of Star Wars without asking him about the newest Star Wars movie, Charlie Rose brought up ''Film/Star WarsTheForceAwakens''. And guess what? [[Creator/GeorgeLucas George]] didn’t like it. According to George, Star Wars: The Force Awakens was [[{{Hypocrite}} a “retro movie” and a cash-grab that pandered to the fans]]...BGeorge sold the ''Star Wars'' franchise to the house of mouse back in 2012 for $4 billion. Although as you’ll hear around the 2:00 mark, he uses a completely different nickname for them. ''“The white slavers“''? Oh boy. Somewhere on Naboo, George’s best pal Jar Jar Binks is like ''“Err…meesa don’t know him.”''
-->--'''[[http://dlisted.com/2015/12/31/george-lucas-came-for-disney-during-an-interview-with-charlie-rose/ Michael K.]]''', "Or if you’d rather be the one saying “This is such a crappy cash-grab” for 55 minutes, skip George’s interview and watch the ''Film/TheStarWarsHolidaySpecial'' instead"
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->In this feature we examine comic book stories and ideas that were not only abandoned, but also had the stories/plots specifically 'overturned' by a later writer (as if they were a legal precedent).
-->--'''''Comics Should Be Good''''', ''The Abandoned An' Forsaked''

->''Stradleyism: The act of dismissing an element of {{canon}} altogether on grounds of it being "stupid", without taking the effort to do something interesting with it.''
-->-- '''Thefourdotelipsis''', [[http://starwars.wikia.com/ Wookieepedia]], on Creator/DarkHorseComics writer Randy Stradley.

->This really feels like one of those things where the people writing the show were having some huge, passive-aggressive argument through their scripts without ever talking to each other. Like Creator/GeoffJohns clearly wanted the door open for more [[ComicBook/{{Legion of Super-Heroes}} Legion]] appearances, but then the next guy was like "NUH UH THAT'S DUMB!" and then the guy who wrote this one was like "[[NoYou NO YOU'RE DUMB]]," and the end result is that once again, Clark completely shirks any responsibility so that he [[StatusQuoIsGod can continue doing nothing.]]
-->-- ''[=ComicsAlliance=]'' [[http://comicsalliance.com/recap-smallville-episode-8-22-doomsday/ on]] ''Series/{{Smallville}}'' ("Doomsday")

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->I mean, he shit on the show like I have never heard. All the crabby internet stuff balled into one nuclear weapon. He hated the show, hated the characters, hated the concept, just thought it was a piece of shit. It was [[TakeThisJobAndShoveIt one hell of a job interview.]] I don’t even know why he came, to be honest. At the same time, I saw some of his critiques were not invalid.

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->I mean, he shit on the show like I have never heard. All the crabby internet stuff balled into one nuclear weapon. He hated the show, hated the characters, hated the concept, just thought it was a piece of shit. It was [[TakeThisJobAndShoveIt one hell of a job interview.]] interview. I don’t even know why he came, to be honest. At the same time, I saw some of his critiques were not invalid.


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->Part of the difficulty in tracking the fallout of [[Creator/AlanMoore Moore’s]] split with [[Creator/DCComics DC]] is simply that it’s so extensive. Once the rupture began it spread quickly, fueled in no small part by Alan Moore’s tendency to, as he’s put it, [[TakeThisJobAndShoveIt burn his bridges]] when reacting against something so as to make sure he’s never tempted to go second guess himself... But if Moore was, consciously or unconsciously, looking for a reason to walk away from DC, it’s just as true that DC was looking for a reason to [[GetOut push Moore towards the exit]]. Certainly they seem to have done little to try to keep him on board.
-->--'''[[http://www.philipsandifer.com/blog/1-crimes-shall-never-be-presented-in-such-a-way-as-to-create-sympathy-for-the-criminal-to-promote-distrust-of-the-forces-of-law-and-justice-or-to-inspire-others-with-a-desire-to-imitate-criminals-the-last-war-in-albion-book-two-part-fifteen-alan-moores-falling-out-with-dc/ Phil Sandifer]]''', ''The Last War in Albion''

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->I needed help. We brought in Ira (Behr). [[BrutalHonesty And he shit all over the show.]] I mean, he shit on the show like I have never heard. All the crabby internet stuff balled into one nuclear weapon. He hated the show, hated the characters, hated the concept, just thought it was a piece of shit. It was [[TakeThisJobAndShoveIt one hell of a job interview.]] I don’t even know why he came, to be honest. At the same time, I saw some of his critiques were not invalid. I think he was saying “I want to come in and shake this place up.” I think at that point, Rick (Berman) and I weren’t quite looking for that level of shake-up.

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->I needed help. We brought in Ira (Behr). [[BrutalHonesty And he shit all over the show.]] I mean, he shit on the show like I have never heard. All the crabby internet stuff balled into one nuclear weapon. He hated the show, hated the characters, hated the concept, just thought it was a piece of shit. It was [[TakeThisJobAndShoveIt one hell of a job interview.]] I don’t even know why he came, to be honest. At the same time, I saw some of his critiques were not invalid. I think he was saying “I want to come in and shake this place up.” I think at that point, Rick (Berman) and I weren’t quite looking for that level of shake-up.



->The resolution to the cliffhanger is beyond lame as Janeway gets little more than a slap around the face by the alien that was [[RaimiVision last seen rushing towards her]]. The CGI aliens really are a terrible design and along with the similarly fake looking species 8472 makes me wonder if the technology was just too primitive at the time to create convincing, frightening monsters. You have check out Ron Moore’s comments on this episode on ''Memory Alpha'' because he discusses all the things that I don’t feel work about this episode – Janeway’s [[CharacterDerailment psychotic behaviour for no reason]] and how the episode refuses to deal with the consequences of that behaviour – because you can see that he was clearly on the ball when it came to pinpointing this series’ problems. But when Braga was busy holding secret meetings at his house Moore was trying to tackle this show on a creative level. To (Rick) Berman’s discredit, [[ProfessionalButtKisser he backed the wrong man]]...Even though his stay on the show was short you can feel Ron Moore’s presence on this show in the first four episodes of the season and frankly it is more intense than ''Voyager'' has been since season two. If only he had hung around until the end of the seventh season we may have had a real renaissance for this show (but we might also have never had the reimagined ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|2003}}'' and I would write off ''Voyager'' completely for that superb show).
-->--'''[[http://docohobigfinish.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/voyager-season-six.html Doc Oho]]''' on ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', "Equinox Pt. 2"
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->The resolution to the cliffhanger is beyond lame as Janeway gets little more than a slap around the face by the alien that was [[RaimiVision last seen rushing towards her]]. The CGI aliens really are a terrible design and along with the similarly fake looking species 8472 makes me wonder if the technology was just too primitive at the time to create convincing, frightening monsters. You have check out Ron Moore’s comments on this episode on ''Memory Alpha'' because he discusses all the things that I don’t feel work about this episode – Janeway’s [[CharacterDerailment psychotic behaviour for no reason]] and how the episode refuses to deal with the consequences of that behaviour – because you can see that he was clearly on the ball when it came to pinpointing this series’ problems. But when Braga was busy holding secret meetings at his house Moore was trying to tackle this show on a creative level. To (Rick) Berman’s discredit, [[ProfessionalButtKisser he backed the wrong man]]...Even though his stay on the show was short you can feel Ron Moore’s presence on this show in the first four episodes of the season and frankly it is more intense than ''Voyager'' has been since season two. If only he had hung around until the end of the seventh season we may have had a real renaissance for this show (but we might also have never had the reimagined ''[[Series/BattlestarGalacticaReimagined Battlestar Galactica]]'' and I would write off ''Voyager'' completely for that superb show).

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->The resolution to the cliffhanger is beyond lame as Janeway gets little more than a slap around the face by the alien that was [[RaimiVision last seen rushing towards her]]. The CGI aliens really are a terrible design and along with the similarly fake looking species 8472 makes me wonder if the technology was just too primitive at the time to create convincing, frightening monsters. You have check out Ron Moore’s comments on this episode on ''Memory Alpha'' because he discusses all the things that I don’t feel work about this episode – Janeway’s [[CharacterDerailment psychotic behaviour for no reason]] and how the episode refuses to deal with the consequences of that behaviour – because you can see that he was clearly on the ball when it came to pinpointing this series’ problems. But when Braga was busy holding secret meetings at his house Moore was trying to tackle this show on a creative level. To (Rick) Berman’s discredit, [[ProfessionalButtKisser he backed the wrong man]]...Even though his stay on the show was short you can feel Ron Moore’s presence on this show in the first four episodes of the season and frankly it is more intense than ''Voyager'' has been since season two. If only he had hung around until the end of the seventh season we may have had a real renaissance for this show (but we might also have never had the reimagined ''[[Series/BattlestarGalacticaReimagined Battlestar Galactica]]'' ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|2003}}'' and I would write off ''Voyager'' completely for that superb show).
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->The resolution to the cliffhanger is beyond lame as Janeway gets little more than a slap around the face by the alien that was [[RaimiVision last seen rushing towards her]]. The CGI aliens really are a terrible design and along with the similarly fake looking species 8472 makes me wonder if the technology was just too primitive at the time to create convincing, frightening monsters. You have check out Ron Moore’s comments on this episode on ''Memory Alpha'' because he discusses all the things that I don’t feel work about this episode – Janeway’s [[CharacterDerailment psychotic behaviour for no reason]] and how the episode refuses to deal with the consequences of that behaviour – because you can see that he was clearly on the ball when it came to pinpointing this series’ problems. But when ''[Brannon]'' Braga was busy holding secret meetings at his house Moore was trying to tackle this show on a creative level. To ''[Rick]'' Berman’s discredit, [[ProfessionalButtKisser he backed the wrong man]]...Even though his stay on the show was short you can feel Ron Moore’s presence on this show in the first four episodes of the season and frankly it is more intense than ''Voyager'' has been since season two. If only he had hung around until the end of the seventh season we may have had a real renaissance for this show (but we might also have never had the reimagined ''[[Series/BattlestarGalacticaReimagined Battlestar Galactica]]'' and I would write off ''Voyager'' completely for that superb show).

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->The resolution to the cliffhanger is beyond lame as Janeway gets little more than a slap around the face by the alien that was [[RaimiVision last seen rushing towards her]]. The CGI aliens really are a terrible design and along with the similarly fake looking species 8472 makes me wonder if the technology was just too primitive at the time to create convincing, frightening monsters. You have check out Ron Moore’s comments on this episode on ''Memory Alpha'' because he discusses all the things that I don’t feel work about this episode – Janeway’s [[CharacterDerailment psychotic behaviour for no reason]] and how the episode refuses to deal with the consequences of that behaviour – because you can see that he was clearly on the ball when it came to pinpointing this series’ problems. But when ''[Brannon]'' Braga was busy holding secret meetings at his house Moore was trying to tackle this show on a creative level. To ''[Rick]'' (Rick) Berman’s discredit, [[ProfessionalButtKisser he backed the wrong man]]...Even though his stay on the show was short you can feel Ron Moore’s presence on this show in the first four episodes of the season and frankly it is more intense than ''Voyager'' has been since season two. If only he had hung around until the end of the seventh season we may have had a real renaissance for this show (but we might also have never had the reimagined ''[[Series/BattlestarGalacticaReimagined Battlestar Galactica]]'' and I would write off ''Voyager'' completely for that superb show).

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->''"The resolution to the cliffhanger is beyond lame as Janeway gets little more than a slap around the face by the alien that was [[RaimiVision last seen rushing towards her]]. The CGI aliens really are a terrible design and along with the similarly fake looking species 8472 makes me wonder if the technology was just too primitive at the time to create convincing, frightening monsters. You have check out Ron Moore’s comments on this episode on ''Memory Alpha'' because he discusses all the things that I don’t feel work about this episode – Janeway’s [[CharacterDerailment psychotic behaviour for no reason]] and how the episode refuses to deal with the consequences of that behaviour – because you can see that he was clearly on the ball when it came to pinpointing this series’ problems. But when ''[Brannon]'' Braga was busy holding secret meetings at his house Moore was trying to tackle this show on a creative level. To ''[Rick]'' Berman’s discredit, [[ProfessionalButtKisser he backed the wrong man]]...Even though his stay on the show was short you can feel Ron Moore’s presence on this show in the first four episodes of the season and frankly it is more intense than ''Voyager'' has been since season two. If only he had hung around until the end of the seventh season we may have had a real renaissance for this show (but we might also have never had the reimagined ''[[Series/BattlestarGalacticaReimagined Battlestar Galactica]]'' and I would write off ''Voyager'' completely for that superb show). "''

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->''"The ->I needed help. We brought in Ira (Behr). [[BrutalHonesty And he shit all over the show.]] I mean, he shit on the show like I have never heard. All the crabby internet stuff balled into one nuclear weapon. He hated the show, hated the characters, hated the concept, just thought it was a piece of shit. It was [[TakeThisJobAndShoveIt one hell of a job interview.]] I don’t even know why he came, to be honest. At the same time, I saw some of his critiques were not invalid. I think he was saying “I want to come in and shake this place up.” I think at that point, Rick (Berman) and I weren’t quite looking for that level of shake-up.
-->--'''Brannon Braga''' on producing ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'', ''Uncharted Territory''

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resolution to the cliffhanger is beyond lame as Janeway gets little more than a slap around the face by the alien that was [[RaimiVision last seen rushing towards her]]. The CGI aliens really are a terrible design and along with the similarly fake looking species 8472 makes me wonder if the technology was just too primitive at the time to create convincing, frightening monsters. You have check out Ron Moore’s comments on this episode on ''Memory Alpha'' because he discusses all the things that I don’t feel work about this episode – Janeway’s [[CharacterDerailment psychotic behaviour for no reason]] and how the episode refuses to deal with the consequences of that behaviour – because you can see that he was clearly on the ball when it came to pinpointing this series’ problems. But when ''[Brannon]'' Braga was busy holding secret meetings at his house Moore was trying to tackle this show on a creative level. To ''[Rick]'' Berman’s discredit, [[ProfessionalButtKisser he backed the wrong man]]...Even though his stay on the show was short you can feel Ron Moore’s presence on this show in the first four episodes of the season and frankly it is more intense than ''Voyager'' has been since season two. If only he had hung around until the end of the seventh season we may have had a real renaissance for this show (but we might also have never had the reimagined ''[[Series/BattlestarGalacticaReimagined Battlestar Galactica]]'' and I would write off ''Voyager'' completely for that superb show). "''
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->''"There was no excuse for my tactless and impatient handling of GeneRoddenberry when I finally say down to meet with this big, tired man in his offices, our respective henchmen hovering silently on the sidelines as the conversation degenerated into barely disguised acrimony. I suppose underneath it all was a conviction on my part that Roddenberry's was a specious utopian vision for which there was no historical evidence. Did he really believe in the perfectibility of man, or (as I suspected) was [[LiesToChildren this just some sort of pose?]]"''
-->-- '''Nicholas Meyer''', ''The View from the Bridge: Memories of Star Trek and a Life in Hollywood.''

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->''"There ->''"The resolution to the cliffhanger is beyond lame as Janeway gets little more than a slap around the face by the alien that was no excuse for my tactless [[RaimiVision last seen rushing towards her]]. The CGI aliens really are a terrible design and impatient handling of GeneRoddenberry when I finally say down to meet along with the similarly fake looking species 8472 makes me wonder if the technology was just too primitive at the time to create convincing, frightening monsters. You have check out Ron Moore’s comments on this big, tired man in his offices, our respective henchmen hovering silently episode on ''Memory Alpha'' because he discusses all the things that I don’t feel work about this episode – Janeway’s [[CharacterDerailment psychotic behaviour for no reason]] and how the episode refuses to deal with the consequences of that behaviour – because you can see that he was clearly on the sidelines as ball when it came to pinpointing this series’ problems. But when ''[Brannon]'' Braga was busy holding secret meetings at his house Moore was trying to tackle this show on a creative level. To ''[Rick]'' Berman’s discredit, [[ProfessionalButtKisser he backed the conversation degenerated into barely disguised acrimony. I suppose underneath it all wrong man]]...Even though his stay on the show was a conviction short you can feel Ron Moore’s presence on my part that Roddenberry's was a specious utopian vision for which there was no historical evidence. Did he really believe this show in the perfectibility first four episodes of man, or (as I suspected) was [[LiesToChildren the season and frankly it is more intense than ''Voyager'' has been since season two. If only he had hung around until the end of the seventh season we may have had a real renaissance for this just some sort of pose?]]"''
-->-- '''Nicholas Meyer''', ''The View from
show (but we might also have never had the Bridge: Memories of Star Trek reimagined ''[[Series/BattlestarGalacticaReimagined Battlestar Galactica]]'' and a Life in Hollywood.''I would write off ''Voyager'' completely for that superb show). "''
-->--'''[[http://docohobigfinish.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/voyager-season-six.html Doc Oho]]''' on ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', "Equinox Pt. 2"
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->''"There was no excuse for my tactless and impatient handling of GeneRoddenberry when I finally say down to meet with this big, tired man in his offices, our respective henchmen hovering silently on the sidelines as the conversation degenerated into barely disguised acrimony. I suppose underneath it all was a conviction on my part that Roddenberry's was a specious utopian vision for which there was no historical evidence. Did he really believe in the perfectibility of man, or (as I suspected) was [[LiesToChildren this just some sort of pose?]]"''
-->-- '''Nicholas Meyer''', ''The View from the Bridge: Memories of Star Trek and a Life in Hollywood.''
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