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* The new Bad Ending for accepting Maruki's ideal world is the epitome of DissonantSerenity. It seems like a GoldenEnding at first and would be easily so in any other context. In actuality, this is that ''VideoGame/Persona3'' sort of bad ending where something is ''eerily wrong'' taking the context in mind. It's not even that different, aside that instead of buying everyone one more month of peace before everything gets utterly obliterated, everyone gets to live forever, as in ''forever'' devoid of the trauma required for them to undergo CharacterDevelopment. They all become nothing, as they don't actually feel anything but happiness and are technically still alive, but they no longer feel pain, terror or suffering, nor do they have any potential to move forward or have any sort of development, effectively making them spiritual husks that aren't different from being dead. To put, Morgana is now a human and dating Ann, Shiho has became a volleyball ace and returned to being close friends with Ann as Kamoshida was out of the picture, Madarame reconciles with Yusuke and becomes a kind mentor rather than a fraudulent hack, Makoto's Father was back alive and thus Sae no longer needs to raise her alone, reconciling their strained relationship, Futaba will be attending Shujin Academy during the next school year and is now a happy family with Wakaba and Sojiro, Okumura is BackFromTheDead and is the caring father Haru considered him as, Sumire outright ''becomes'' Kasumi Yoshizawa as she wishes in her depressed and unstable mental state, Sojiro offers Joker to take over Cafe Leblanc when he graduates from high school, and Akechi is unambiguously alive and is best friends with the other Phantom Thieves...but just like Aigis on the promised day where Nyx kills everyone with all of them no longer remembering that a certain death is around the corner, Joker is the only one seemingly devoid of RippleEffectProofMemory and is aware that everything is too good to be true. In fact, he's [[https://imgur.com/Uh5o2dk not even smiling]] in the photo that Maruki takes for the Phantom Thieves, seems to express remorse that Sumire's true self is dead after she walks past him and everybody no longer recognizes him. On top of all of this, Mementos fuses with reality to make everyone's wholesome desires come true with Maruki himself being reduced into a nameless man. The true meaning of the ending is that not only you had failed the spirit of the Phantom Thieves, you had doomed people to eternal stagnation and nobody can or will do anything against it.

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* The new Bad Ending for accepting Maruki's ideal world is the epitome of DissonantSerenity. It seems like a GoldenEnding at first and would be easily so in any other context. In actuality, this is that ''VideoGame/Persona3'' sort of bad ending where something is ''eerily wrong'' taking the context in mind. It's not even that different, aside that instead of buying everyone one more month of peace before everything gets utterly obliterated, everyone gets to live forever, as in ''forever'' devoid of the trauma required for them to undergo CharacterDevelopment. They all become nothing, as they don't actually feel anything but happiness and are technically still alive, but they no longer feel pain, terror or suffering, nor do they have any potential to move forward or have any sort of development, effectively making them spiritual husks that aren't different from being dead. To [[note]]To put, Morgana is now a human and dating Ann, Ann; Shiho has became a volleyball ace and returned to being close friends with Ann as Kamoshida was out of the picture, picture; Madarame reconciles with Yusuke and becomes a kind mentor rather than a fraudulent hack, hack; Makoto's Father was back alive and thus Sae no longer needs to raise her alone, reconciling their strained relationship, relationship; Futaba will be attending Shujin Academy during the next school year and is now a happy family with Wakaba and Sojiro, Okumura is BackFromTheDead and is the caring father Haru considered him as, as; Sumire outright ''becomes'' Kasumi Yoshizawa as she wishes in her depressed and unstable mental state, state; Sojiro offers Joker to take over Cafe Leblanc when he graduates from high school, school; and Akechi is unambiguously alive and is best friends with the other Phantom Thieves...but Thieves.[[/note]] But just like Aigis on the promised day where Nyx kills everyone with all of them no longer remembering that a certain death is around the corner, Joker is the only one seemingly devoid of RippleEffectProofMemory and is aware that everything is too good to be true. In fact, he's [[https://imgur.com/Uh5o2dk not even smiling]] in the photo that Maruki takes for the Phantom Thieves, seems to express remorse that Sumire's true self is dead after she walks past him and everybody no longer recognizes him. On top of all of this, Mementos fuses with reality to make everyone's wholesome desires come true with Maruki himself being reduced into a nameless man. The true meaning of the ending is that not only you had failed the spirit of the Phantom Thieves, you had doomed people to eternal stagnation and nobody can or will do anything against it.
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** When you walk into his Cruiser Palace, it turns out he's somehow become so close to four fellow conspirators that their cognitive versions have been replaced by true Shadow Selves... and then his conversations with them after you beat their shadow-cognitions heavily imply that he plans to ''[[EtTuBrute kill them anyway]]'' as soon as [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness they are either of no use]], or [[TheDogBitesBack have displayed themselves to be anything but his mere bootlickers]] even by the slightest bit. Non-issues or fleeting issues in his way, such as competing premiership with him or half-hearted intents to rat him out irritate him enough to kill people within his circle. To say nothing of Akechi, who was basically the only person who was even halfway competent in his arsenal; [[note]]"halfway competent" is actually an understatement considering that Akechi is one of ''the'' most competent characters in the game![[/note]] Shido plans to kill the younger man once he becomes Prime Minister because he already knows the guy was never an obedient lapdog from the start, even if he was the ''de facto'' asset to his path of conquest. It doesn't matter if you're his best friend, his backer, or even his only useful minion (who, mind you, is '''''his own son'''''), the moment that you have served your purpose and/or he sees you as someone even remotely capable of disloyalty, Shido will toss you aside to keep as few loose ends around as possible.

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** When you walk into his Cruiser Palace, it turns out he's somehow become so close to four fellow conspirators that their cognitive versions have been replaced by true Shadow Selves... and then his conversations with them after you beat their shadow-cognitions heavily imply that he plans to ''[[EtTuBrute kill them anyway]]'' as soon as [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness they are either of no use]], or [[TheDogBitesBack have displayed themselves to be anything but his mere bootlickers]] even by the slightest bit. Non-issues or fleeting issues in his way, such as competing premiership with him or half-hearted intents to rat him out irritate him enough to kill people within his circle. To say nothing of Akechi, who was basically the only person who was even halfway competent in his arsenal; [[note]]"halfway competent" is actually an understatement considering that Akechi is one of ''the'' most competent characters in the game![[/note]] Shido plans to kill the younger man once he becomes Prime Minister because he already knows the guy was never an obedient lapdog from the start, even if he was the ''de facto'' asset to his path of conquest. It doesn't matter if you're his best friend, his backer, or even his only useful minion (who, mind you, (who he knows is '''''his ''his own son'''''), son''), the moment that you have served your purpose and/or he sees you as someone even remotely capable of disloyalty, Shido will toss you aside to keep as few loose ends around as possible.
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** When you walk into his Cruiser Palace, it turns out he's somehow become so close to four fellow conspirators that their cognitive versions have been replaced by true Shadow Selves... and then his conversations with them after you beat their shadow-cognitions heavily imply that he plans to ''[[EtTuBrute kill them anyway]]'' as soon as [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness they are either of no use]], or [[TheDogBitesBack have displayed themselves to be anything but his mere bootlickers]] even by the slightest bit. Non-issues or fleeting issues in his way, such as competing premiership with him or half-hearted intents to rat him out irritate him enough to kill people within his circle. To say nothing of Akechi, who was basically the only person who was even halfway competent in his arsenal; [[note]]"halfway competent" is actually an understatement considering that Akechi is one of ''the'' most competent characters in the game![[/note]] Shido plans to kill the younger man once he becomes Prime Minister because he already knows the guy was never an obedient lapdog from the start, even if he was the ''de facto'' asset to his path of conquest. It doesn't matter if you're his best friend, his backer, or even his only useful minion, the moment that you have served your purpose and/or he sees you as someone even remotely capable of disloyalty, Shido will toss you aside to keep as few loose ends around as possible.

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** When you walk into his Cruiser Palace, it turns out he's somehow become so close to four fellow conspirators that their cognitive versions have been replaced by true Shadow Selves... and then his conversations with them after you beat their shadow-cognitions heavily imply that he plans to ''[[EtTuBrute kill them anyway]]'' as soon as [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness they are either of no use]], or [[TheDogBitesBack have displayed themselves to be anything but his mere bootlickers]] even by the slightest bit. Non-issues or fleeting issues in his way, such as competing premiership with him or half-hearted intents to rat him out irritate him enough to kill people within his circle. To say nothing of Akechi, who was basically the only person who was even halfway competent in his arsenal; [[note]]"halfway competent" is actually an understatement considering that Akechi is one of ''the'' most competent characters in the game![[/note]] Shido plans to kill the younger man once he becomes Prime Minister because he already knows the guy was never an obedient lapdog from the start, even if he was the ''de facto'' asset to his path of conquest. It doesn't matter if you're his best friend, his backer, or even his only useful minion, minion (who, mind you, is '''''his own son'''''), the moment that you have served your purpose and/or he sees you as someone even remotely capable of disloyalty, Shido will toss you aside to keep as few loose ends around as possible.
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* Kamoshida may just be the StarterVillain, but he's easily one of the ''vilest'' villains possible in a ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'' game (or its spinoffs). He's the coach of a high school co-ed volleyball team who blatantly abuses his male athletes physically and psychologically and does the same for his female students, except he also ''sexually abuses'' them in his office. Additionally, he blackmails students he doesn't like and ends their athletic careers over petty issues, and is heavily implied to be a SerialRapist with at least one victim attempting suicide over the trauma. The guy is to the ''Shin Megami Tensei'' franchise like what [[VideoGame/ResidentEvil2 Chief Brian Irons]] is to ''Franchise/ResidentEvil'', both being villains who are nightmarish because they are completely ''grounded'' in a series where the heroes face the apocalypse every other game because they represent [[{{Mundanger}} the most evil actions demonstrated by everyday, mundane humans]] rather than an OmnicidalManiac calling forth the apocalypse. [[RealismInducedHorror People like Kamoshida are not uncommon in real life]], and it's horrifying.

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* Kamoshida may just be the StarterVillain, but he's easily one of the ''vilest'' villains possible in a ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'' game (or its spinoffs). He's the coach of a high school co-ed volleyball team who blatantly abuses his male athletes physically and psychologically and does the same for his female students, except he also ''sexually abuses'' them in his office. Additionally, he blackmails students he doesn't like and ends their athletic careers over petty issues, and is heavily implied to be a SerialRapist with at least one victim attempting suicide over the trauma. The guy is to the ''Shin Megami Tensei'' franchise like what [[VideoGame/ResidentEvil2 Chief Brian Irons]] is to ''Franchise/ResidentEvil'', both being villains who are nightmarish because they are completely ''grounded'' in a series where the heroes face the apocalypse every other game because they represent [[{{Mundanger}} the most evil actions demonstrated by everyday, mundane humans]] rather than an a supernatural OmnicidalManiac calling forth in a series where the apocalypse.heroes face the apocalypse every other game. [[RealismInducedHorror People like Kamoshida are not uncommon in real life]], and it's horrifying.

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