%% Commented-out examples are zero-context examples. Please do not re-add without adding context
The disadvantage that no smart {{minmax|ing}}er would ever take because it practically ensures a quick death or severe disruption of your plans.

Clear requirement: it should be presented as a disadvantage from the beginning. It should not just be a less smart option, it should clearly be labeled as an intentional handicap. You should get something in return for it. It has to be voluntarily chosen. And it has to be a completely disastrous option that is just plain not worth it. The only reason any remotely intelligent player would take it is as a SelfImposedChallenge, and even then it's borderline masochistic.

Opposite of MinmaxersDelight.


* ''VideoGame/RogueLegacy'' generates three characters for each [[JustifiedExtraLives generation]] for you to choose from. Each includes traits that may dissuade you from using that particular character, and ''all three'' having one came make that generation feel like a suddenly daunting task:
** Vertigo flips the entire screen upside-down, including interface elements and dialog boxes. Apart from being headache-inducing, vertically-mirrored text makes menu options so unintelligible the Dyslexia trait could only wish it was that bad (don't bother trying to flip your monitor).
** [[FeelNoPain C.I.P.]] hides your health bar. In a game where keeping track of your HP is what keeps you alive, this is a very bad thing. Unless you feel like using math during gameplay to figure out how much HP you might have, you won't know how hurt you are until it's far too late.
** Alzheimer's for Spelunkers. Alzheimer's prevents you from using the map, though it doesn't disable the minimap. For a class whose main ability involves using the map to seek out treasure chests, this is more than a little bad.
* Shieldless in ''VideoGame/FTLFasterThanLight''. Only four ships (Stealth A through C, Zoltan B) don't start with laser and beam-repelling shield systems, and while they have alternatives (a cloaking system in two cases and a special single-use shield for Zoltan B), they can be rapidly picked apart by anything with a beam drone (attack drones fire constantly for low damage which shields would normally absorb, but which adds up, and beams can't be dodged). Note you can buy a shield system, but you are still vulnerable initially and have to spend a lot to get what normal ships begin with.
* Illiterate in ''VideoGame/{{Cataclysm}}'' makes you completely incapable of using any book, which makes it much harder to train your skills and impossible to learn advanced crafting recipes. Nowhere near worth the 6 points it gives you, since you can get that many points by taking multiple less harmful disadvantages. The only reason you'd want to have it would be for a SelfImposedChallenge.

[[folder:Role Playing Game]]
* Completely Inept and Cursed At Birth in ''VideoGame/{{Avernum}}''. Combine them for additional fun!
** Completely Inept reduces hit chance by 10% and reduces confusion resistance by 30%. The former is nastier than it looks, as damage for weapon skills (and the blademaster skill) is directly tied to hit rate.
** Cursed at Birth increases '''all''' forms of damage taken by 50%. For even more fun, combining it with Brittle Bones makes them stack for an extra 100% damage from all physical attacks.
* ''VideoGame/{{Exile}} III'' had the Sluggishness disadvantage, which makes a character get fewer action points every round. It wasn't worth much in XP savings, and a game like this requires perfect rationing of action points to succeed. A character with less-than-stellar action points will easily be left behind when everyone else advances on the enemy, and also left to be ganged up on and eaten alive when everyone else is fleeing. Furthermore, the Haste spells (critical in the late game) only multiply action points; someone who can barely move before Haste can still only move a ''little'' better after it.
* One background option in ''VideoGame/{{Arcanum|Of Steamworks And Magick Obscura}}'' is "[[Creator/FriedrichNietzsche Nietzsche Poster Child]]", boosting EXP in exchange for increasing critical failure rate ("That which does not kill me can only make me stronger."). Given ''Arcanum'' has really annoying effects possible for critical failures (most are "deal damage to self", but also found are "receive injury that reduces stats and can only be healed by upper-end healing items" and "your weapon breaks instantly", "Armor damaged", "get stunned and most likely die because the thing you were fighting now has a few turns of uninterrupted, unmissable attacks", and multiple of the above) and EXP is given like candy already, only a pure diplomat (who doesn't really make any rolls that can critically fail, plus doesn't get the game's insane amount of combat EXP) can make any use of it, and even then, a background that boosts your persuasion stats (and the cap for them, as a stat's cap is based on its starting value) with a hit to combat stats may be better.
* ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'':
** Throughout the series (until it did away with Attributes in ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]''), a low Endurance attribute was absolutely killer, regardless of your character build. A higher starting Endurance means more starting Health, and a high Endurance also means a greater Health increase every time you level up. A Warrior may have heavy armor, but getting up close and personal with every enemy means you'll be taking a lot of hits. Rangers and Mages keep their distance, taking less hits overall, but are also far less protected in terms of armor. Most guides will recommend doing what you have to (class selection, Birthsign selection, etc.) to get a high starting Endurance and then level it up to 100 as quickly as you can in order to have the most health possible. This is especially important in ''[[VideoGame/{{TheElderScrollsIVOblivion}} Oblivion]]'', where nearly every enemy's stats (including health) [[LevelScaling scales with your own level]], meaning even a lowly bandit can potentially one-shot a low-endurance character at a high enough level.
** In ''[[VideoGame/{{TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind}} Morrowind]]'', "The Lord" Birthsign. It grants a healing spell which is outclassed by Hearth Heal, a spell you can get in character generation for free by having Restoration as a Major or Minor skill. The tradeoff is doubling the fire damage you take. Other Birthsigns provide better skills and weaker penalties, making it suicidal to choose The Lord unless you're roleplaying.

[[folder:Survival Horror]]
* ''VideoGame/HellNight'': The player character is a OneHitPointWonder, but having a partner along can give you one extra hit, though your partner then dies. If the player chooses to not recruit any of the partners available (and letting Naomi, who joins you by default in the beginning, die as soon as possible), this causes the entire game to have to be played as a NoDamageRun, and there is no reward for doing this, as [[EarnYourBadEnding it locks you into a Bad Ending]].

[[folder:Simulation Game]]
* The Moronic trait in ''VideoGame/{{Tropico}}'' is not a good trait to have, as it bars you from getting colleges.
* The Imbecile (or to a ''lesser'' extent, Incapable) trait in ''[[VideoGame/CrusaderKings Crusader Kings II]]'' means that your character ''has'' to have a regent appointed to him/her, for rather obvious reasons. And this type of trait is (largely) random to acquire, so it can strike at any time.
* Several traits in ''VideoGame/{{Rimworld}}'' are considered very undesirable.
** Pawns' backstories affect which jobs they are incapable of doing. In the early game, the worst of these are "Incapable of dumb labor" or "Incapable of violence". Being unable to haul crucial resources can slow down your colony's growth, and being one man down when enemies attack can potentially be troublesome. As you gain more people, these traits become more manageable, but in the early game they can significantly crimp your growth. A very popular GameMod called "Pawns Are Capable" nerfs this by substituting "incapable of" traits with "hates doing", which gives pawns a mood malus for doing things that they hate. This means they can still be pressed into service for when you ''really'' need something done.
** Pyromaniac is considered the ''worst'' negative trait a pawn can have, to the point where players try to kill Pyromaniac pawns off or put them into cryptosleep pods just so they don't have to deal with them. A Pyromaniac pawn can't fight fires and can randomly have a mental break where they go around setting fires. At best, this can be annoying, as they set some small fires and force your other pawns to clean up their mess. At worst, they might set a fire that spreads to something you really don't want burning-- like your wooden base or chemfuel stockpiles.
** Volatile gives a pawn a staggering 15% higher mental break threshold, meaning they will be more susceptible to breakdowns. This is especially bad in the "Rich Explorer" scenario, where you start with one pawn. If they break down, your colony's growth will be stopped dead in its tracks, potentially for a long time.
** Chemical fascination causes pawns to occasionally go binge on hard drugs like yayo and go-juice. While binging, they are uncontrollable, which can be very bad if you need them to do something else other than stuff their face full of drugs. At best, they might develop a new addiction after binging: at worst, they might kill themselves through an overdose. Its lesser cousin, "Chemical interest", is somewhat this, but is a bit more manageable as they binge on softer drugs like smokeleaf.

[[folder:Tabletop Games]]
* In general, any RPG with time travel in it has some way of making your character conscious of any timeline changes. If this ability is optional and the game ''focuses'' on time travel, it generally turns into this trope; skip getting this ability and you'll be spending all of your time trying to get your character to figure out things ''you already know'' instead of taking advantage of whatever you get in return.
* ''TabletopGame/{{GURPS}}'' has a whole bunch of these. It's actually understandable since not all of them are necessarily designed to be taken by [=PCs=], and are instead better suited to [=NPCs=] and enemies.
** Combat Paralysis -- you tend to [[DeerInTheHeadlights randomly "freeze" in combat]]. Some [[KillerGameMaster particularly fiendish [=GMs=]]] recommend having each PC start with it in realistic 'normal people' games.
** The [[OverdrawnAtTheBloodBank Hemophila]] disadvantage makes ''any'' wound you suffer into either a royal pain in the ass, a life-threatening disaster, or a quick trip to the morgue.
** Woe on anyone who takes the disadvantages Cursed or Unluckiness -- you're just begging the GM to be a dick towards you at the worst possible time. While the 75 free points you get for it are a massive advantage, especially for a low-level character, there's no way any GM worth the name isn't going to take a huge amount of pleasure in making you regret it. Here's the actual description for Cursed:
---> ''Like Unluckiness, but worse. Whenever anything goes wrong for your party, it happens to you, first and worst. If something goes right, it misses you. And any time the [=GM=] feels like hosing you, he can, and you have no gripe coming, because you are cursed.''
** Klutz and Total Klutz likewise ''encourage'' the GM to screw with you in their description. "The [=GM=] should be creative in inventing minor torments."
** There is actually an ''Easy to Kill'' disadvantage. While it can be offset with plenty of Hp, DR, etc., it's rarely taken because it's only worth -2 points per level.
** Unique sounds cool at first, but it means that if anything ever changes the time line significantly (and you can only take it in worlds where this is possible), [[RetGone you cease to have ever existed, anywhere, with no chance of ever being remembered]]. You can also take it in parallel universe settings, where it's closer to MinmaxersDelight -- not only do you get disadvantage points for taking it, it gives you the Zeroed advantage (i.e. your character is [[TheSpook not listed in any of the usual publicly-available records]]) for free.
** Slave Mentality requires you to make a rather difficult roll "before you can take any action that isn't either obeying a direct order or part of an established routine." And to do anything other than fold to social influence requires ''GM permission'' and another difficult roll. As the book says, "rarely appropriate for [=PCs=]"!
** At the highest level of Terminally Ill, your character will suddenly drop dead after a year or so. This potentially flips over into MinMaxersDelight if you don't expect the campaign to last that long, but that's quite a real gamble if don't know how long it will go at character creation.
** Reduced Time Rate makes it so a character takes twice as long to perform any non-combat tasks, and in combat you declare all your actions (like punching that guy in front of you), then wait a turn, then perform those actions (like punching the air where that guy was last round).
** The relatively obscure Anterograde Amnesia disadvantages (Cinematic and Regular) prevent your character from forming new memories. Have fun roleplaying that!
* Dark Fate in ''TabletopGame/LegendOfTheFiveRings''. Sure, it can save your bacon, but when the GM feels like it, you will betray everything your character holds dear, probably including the other players. Death is usually the result, although a FateWorseThanDeath is also a distinct possibility.
** ''[=L5R=]'' is rife with these. Momoku, which removes the ability to spend void, is not even close to worth the 10 Character Points you get. The creators have noted that disadvantages in their system are supposed to be deadly, not a minor handicap, and taking one is supposed to be handing the GM an excuse to ruin you.
* Dark Fate in the ''TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness'' games. The books try to make it sound appealing by pointing out your Dark Fate means you have [[PlotArmor an effectively open hand]] until it hits (unless it's your Dark Fate, what can the situation ''do'' to you?), but realistically, the Storyteller will hammer you with your Dark Fate as soon as you screw up one too many of his plans.
** Similarly, Life Saver in more than one of the TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness games, with the wrong group. Because isn't everyone a SociopathicHero who is alright with butchering people?
* Bleeder in ''[[Series/{{Firefly}} Serenity]]'' is like GURPS Hemophilia -- any significant wound is death. "Things Don't Go Smooth" is another bad one (the GM can void any success he likes once or twice per game session, typically the "do or die" ones) -- notable in that ''Mal'' has it. Although this shouldn't be too much of a surprise, considering it's named after one of his lines.
* The highest level of Coward in ''TabletopGame/AllFleshMustBeEaten''. Buy it and your character will never play any real role in the game ever again.
* ''Magazine/{{Dragon}}'' magazine:
** Issue #325 has the Superstitious flaw. If you create a character with a crippling phobia of magic, maybe adventuring just isn't for you.
** Another issue of ''Dragon'' includes a selection of extremely crippling commoner-oriented flaws, up to and including Corpse. Of course, they weren't intended to be used, seeing as it was an AprilFoolsDay joke. Oddly enough, creative interpretation of several of these ended up being a significant boon and turned what was originally a class with no abilities and bare minimum stats into a LethalJokeCharacter.
* ''TabletopGame/DarkHeresy'' has the Nascent Psyker [[PrestigeClass Elite Advance]] package from ''The Inquisitor's Handbook''. The only Elite Advance that costs 0 xp (the game lacking a point-buy advantage/disadvantage system), Nascent Psyker gives your character spectacular powers (fuelled by Hell) which [[PowerIncontinence they can't control]], and which have a definite chance of randomly [[YourHeadAsplode making you, or everyone around you explode]], or [[DemonicPossession making you share your mind and body with a daemon]]. Oh, and you have to be under extreme stress before those powers will manifest. If any other characters find out you have them, they are legally obliged to either kill you, or capture you and send you across the galaxy to be turned into a living battery for the Astronomican or be taught how to control it over the next decade or so: all of these options effectively require you to retire the character, though the latter at least gives you the chance to [[TheBusCameBack come back as a Sanctioned Psyker]]. Even if you manage to hide it from the others-- which is not particularly easy-- or they are heretical/radical enough ''not'' to have you purged or sanctioned, it's only a matter of time before your magical mishaps kill you or worse. It is explicitly noted that taking this package is effectively an open-ended death sentence.
* ''Dependence'' is this in the ''TabletopGame/HeroSystem''. While it was originally intended to replicate characters like Aquaman, who needed to dunk himself in water once a day, it turns into a bludgeon against the character, because all the GM has to do to screw over the guy is not allow access, storywise.
%%* "Palms Like Sieves" in ''TabletopGame/HackMaster''. And Hemophilia, [[RuleOfThree again]].
* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'':
** The Bloodfeeder for the Chaos Lord. When used in melee, you roll 2 six-sided dice and get that many plus 4 attacks in that round (keep in mind that, for a character, you should usually get about ''five'' attacks). That is, unless you roll a 1 on ''either'' die (which has a 30.6% chance of happening), in which your Chaos Lord [[MemeticMutation goes into a wrist-slitting]] [[{{Wangst}} emo mode]], represented by him taking an armor-ignoring wound and forfeiting ''all'' of his attacks that round, which more-often-than-not coincides with him getting obliterated in whatever melee he was a part of. No surprise, the fluff clearly points out in many places that [[AxCrazy "Khorne cares not from whence the blood flows"]]. The Chaos Marines have a number of ConfusionFu options in their codex, but the Bloodfeeder is by far the most self-destructive.
** Anything with the ''Rage'' special rule, prior to 6th edition (2012). A unit with the old version of Rage ''must'' move directly towards the closest enemy as fast as possible. A unit is usually subject to ''Rage'' because of a bad roll on a certain test, or as a mechanical counterbalance to some other amazing ability (often ''Furious Charge'' or something of the like). Often the trademark of a particularly AxCrazy model/unit. While it's a rather negligible drawback against new and inexperienced players, who will almost instinctively park on objectives and never move, a veteran player with a fast vehicle or two can drag ''Rage'' units by the nose all over the table.
* In ''deadEarth'', the player is forced to roll several random mutations for their character, some of which explicitly ''[[PressStartToGameOver kill your character during chargen]]'' (which is combined with the game only allowing you three characters ''ever''.)