->''"We will not fight them at all. We would rather die than to kill others."''
--> -- '''Tee Watt Kaa''', ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' episode "Jedi Crash"

A person (or, in some cases, an entire nation) who believes that [[ActualPacifist actual pacifism]] is worth dedication even when the call for resistance is a MatterOfLifeAndDeath. This highly principled and strong willed stance, already incredibly difficult to maintain in real life, tends to get the conflict equivalent of ColdTurkeysAreEverywhere with the pacifist people ([[PerfectPacifistPeople perfection optional]]) getting constantly assailed by dire threats where their options are a reduced to a SadisticChoice between [[FrequentlyBrokenUnbreakableVow breaking their unbreakable vow]] or dying for it.

When they choose the latter, some stories treat the decision as being TooDumbToLive; be it because the pacifists think appeasement can work on a BloodKnight, choose to ignore the existence of the threat, or that the enslaving invaders somehow ''won't'' abuse their power and make life unbearable. Heroes may try to point out the flaws in their reasoning and convince them to defend themselves, but they will insist that he [[NotSoDifferent cannot be trusted due to the blood on his hands]]. If he tries to argue that [[MartialPacifist peace and liberty must be defended]], they may imply IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim. Of course, once the BigBad or {{Mooks}} arrive, he will be forced to take care of the problem for them, [[UngratefulBastard which they will be ungrateful over]] and even [[ComplainingAboutRescuesTheyDontLike complain about]]. In these cases there may be a WriterOnBoard pushing a pro-assertiveness/anti-bullying {{Aesop}}.

More nuanced interpretations may have the pacifists struggle with the ethical dilemma of taking a life to defend their own, whether asking the hero for help defending them violates their pacifism by proxy, if appeasing the villain with money or slaves won't cause suffering to third parties and other issues. They usually end up in a position where they're forced into unwilling slavery or make use of passive resistance... which is a dicey prospect that ''may'' get them freed in decades or centuries, but as per the trope title, submitting to the aggressor usually amounts to suicide. They may only reluctantly accept the hero's offer to [[TrainingThePeacefulVillagers Train The Peaceful Villagers]], to [[TeachHimAnger Teach Them Anger]], or choose to relocate.

Common in certain interpretations of the MessianicArchetype.

See also ActualPacifist, TooDumbToLive for when this gets to the point of genuine stupidity, and PerfectPacifistPeople. Related is PacifismBackfire when choosing peaceful ways leads to more problems; in this trope, the problem is ''their own deaths''. SisterTrope to RecklessPacifist, when one's refusal to fight endangers ''other'' people's lives. {{Subtrope}} of PrinciplesZealot.



[[folder: Anime / Manga ]]

%%* Reiji of ''Manga/RebirthTheLunaticTaker''.
* The Sanc Kingdom of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing''. Its ruler was an ActualPacifist, but the country was crushed by the Earth Sphere Alliance. Interestingly, the narrative suggests that Actual Pacifism is a noble goal and ideal, but realistically you need to have ''some'' level of fighting capability, if only for defense against those who would abuse their power.
* ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamAGE'': Kio Asuno takes up this stance near the end of the show, refusing to kill the enemy. Unfortunately, his enemy has no desire whatsoever to talk things out and are committed to a total war. Furthermore, while he's got a powerful enough Gundam that he can non-lethally disable enemy {{Mooks}}, against anyone even slightly above average in skill he ends up making no headway at all.
* In ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'', it's revealed that the King who built the Three Walls believed that humanity was sinful and thus deserved their fate to be confined in the territory surrounded by those Walls, [[spoiler: he was in reality Karl Fritz, the 145th King of the Eldians, who lamented the suffering the Eldian Empire had inflicted upon the world]], and thus adopted a pacifist policy upon his subjects and successors called "The Will of the First King", in which he would never retaliate against ''any'' aggression from the outside, even if it would mean the complete destruction of his people.


[[folder: Comics ]]

* In ''Comicbook/TeenTitans'', the Cult of Azarath that Raven was born into believed this, not even defending themselves as they were attacked by Trigon's demons.
* Lucas Orion of the first ''ComicBook/AtariForce'' team. When he and his comrades were being attacked by the Zylons, he refused to even pick up a gun to help his friends fight off the attackers. Fortunately, a CoolShip emerges to save the day, piloted by Lucas' allies.


[[folder: Film ]]

* In ''Film/StarTrekInsurrection'', the Ba'ku refuse to so much as lift a phaser, claiming they'd lose their entire way of life if they defended it. It's left to the five-man Starfleet team to do the job.
* Winston Churchill accuses Neville Chamberlain and Lord Hallifax of this in ''Film/DarkestHour'', over their insistence of trying to negotiate peace with the Nazis.
-->'''Winston Churchill''': When will the lesson be learned?! You cannot reason with a tiger WHEN YOUR HEAD IS IN ITS MOUTH!!


[[folder: Literature ]]

* The Tuatha'an (Tinkers or Traveling People) in ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime'' series. They're an itinerant people, traveling from place to place in wagon caravans so that if they're ever threatened, they can pick up and move. They believe that violence does just as much damage to the attacker as the attacked, like an ax that goes dull from chopping too many trees, and if someone attacks them, they will pray that the act ''does not hurt the attacker too much''. One of them, Aram, abandoned their Pacifist ways and soon became a KnightTemplar. Eventually [[JumpedOffTheSlipperySlope jumping off the slippery slope,]] and into straight-up AxCrazy. It wasn't pretty.
* The people of Bandakar in ''Literature/TheSwordOfTruth'' series, pacifists who are fortunately immune to magical attacks, and not so fortunately helpless against the Imperial Order's dudes with swords. They eventually got over their pacifism and started defending themselves.
* ''Literature/TheStainlessSteelRat Gets Drafted'' includes a planet of suicidal pacifists. When their planet is conquered, they refuse to work for the conquerors and patiently wait for them to realize that the locals cannot be compelled by violence. Even when they finally grasp that the villain really is so evil as to end another's life, they decide to disarm him...by walking up to him and taking his gun. They realize that some of them will die, but eventually he'll run out of bullets. Fortunately, the cavalry arrives before the shooting starts, using a device to render weapons inoperable.
* In a short story in one of the ''Literature/WarriorCats'' [[ExpandedUniverse Field Guides]], Morningstar, a Clan leader refused to fight, afraid to see his warriors injured - even announcing publicly at a Gathering that they were too weak for him to sanction a fight and politely asking the other Clans to stop hunting in [=ThunderClan=] territory. Of course, this was an open invitation to the other Clans to continue hunting there, since they would not be driven off. Eventually the spirit of the leader's mate visits him and explains to him that they need to fight battles, and he agrees.
* ''Literature/QuadrailSeries'': The Chahwyn, and their artificial race the Spiders, don't want (and are largely incapable) of using force against anyone in fear of slipping down the slope of violence like other races before them. More than one Spider meets a brutal end because of this. By the end of the fourth book they've realized complete pacifism is unworkable and have gained a (so far) limited ability to enact violence upon other sentients if the cause is important enough.
** At the same time, an amazing amount of the troubles in the setting can be traced back to the Chahwyn's discomfort with their own pacifism and attempts to avoid this trope... to the point where it ends up looking like everybody, including them, would be much better off if they ''personally'' had embraced SuicidalPacifism and stuck with it.
* The Chee from ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'' are a robot version of this. Their long-dead alien creators made is so they were unable to hurt anyone or take a life. This means that even when outright attacked, they can't use their incredible strength to fight back. When they're first introduced, some of the Chee are trying to change their programming; however, once one actually gets a chance to use their abilities, slaughtering a whole battalion of controllers, a MyGodWhatHaveIDone moment ensues, and the option is never brought up again.
** Generally the series takes a rather favourable view on this ActualPacifist nature, though many times characters are outright frustrated by it. In the end, [[spoiler: it's partially responsible for Rachel's death.]]
* Harry Turtledove's AlternateHistory short story ''The Last Article'' makes Mohandas Gandhi's nonviolent resistance movement turn into this after Nazi Germany conquers India from the British Empire -- see also the RealLife section.
* ''Literature/VampireAcademy'' has a variant; the philosophy of the Moroi isn't about violence specifically, but about using their elemental magic for violence. This turns out to be a suicidal stance for them. When attacked by Strigoi, they usually do not even think to fight back. This makes them surprisingly easy victims. Particularly bad because fire users have the ideal power to kill their attackers. This is less a principled stance and more cowardice, because their preference is to let the Dhampir Guardians do the fighting and dying for them, even trying to lower the minimum age for joining the Guardians, i.e. send ''undertrained teenagers'' into combat so they don't have to get their hands dirty.
* In ''Literature/TheDinosaurLords'', the Gardeners sect is staunchly pacifist and when they're about to be invaded, many of them protest learning how to fight. Notably, one of them states that "we shouldn't abandon our principles just because they became inconvenient", when said inconvenience involves very real possibility of death, rape, being MadeASlave or any combination of those.
* ''Literature/TheSilerianTrilogy'': The Beyar-Olvari, who are an extremely fragile, peaceful species and can't even bear the ''mention'' of violent acts, let alone do any themselves, manifest this. It seems this is their inherent nature, so they can't change that. Rather than fight, some manage to survive by hiding underground from the encroaching humans.
* ''The Fifth Sacred Thing'' is built around a deconstruction of SuicidalPacifism, showing why someone would resort to it and even a way it could work. Even putting aside the residents' strong objections to war, the city is one of the few fertile spots AfterTheEnd, so evacuating isn't an option, they put all their effort into [[BoringButPractical farming and engineering]] so they have no weapons, and even if they did they are vastly outnumbered and unprepared for conflict. Nonviolent resistance is their best chance for survival because even though many will be killed, a war would surely annihilate them. When the Stewards arrive, they're so nonplussed by the city's seeming lack of resistance that they don't realize the residents are secretly freeing their SlaveMooks, and are eventually routed by their own [[TurnedAgainstTheirMasters defecting soldiers]].


[[folder: Live Action TV ]]

* Despite its reputation as a pro-pacifism show, ''Series/DoctorWho'' has occasionally included negatively-portrayed examples of this.
** After nearly being wiped out in an atomic war (and exterminated by the Daleks) the Thals turned to absolute pacifism. In their first appearance (in the series' very second serial, ''The Daleks'') Ian told them that they had to resist the Daleks or the Daleks would exterminate them; their leader Alydon gravely replied that in that case the Daleks would have to exterminate them. Fortunately, Ian was able to TeachHimAnger and make him acknowledge that there were some things worth fighting for and they defeated the Daleks. By the next appearance (several generations later) they had not returned to pacifism.
** The Dulcians in "The Dominators" were intended as a satire on hippie anti-war protesters, in their high-minded refusal to accept that the people invading their planet actually were aggressive militarists who had to be fought.
** "The God Complex" featured a being from a planet whose people ''never'' put up a fight. In fact, they get conquered so often that one of their industries is decorating everything for future conquerors. Their anthem is "Glory to [insert name here]".
** Played for laughs in "Doomsday" where the Doctor insists to Rose that though Torchwood may pump them full of bullets, he'll still have the moral high ground.
* The Nox of ''Series/StargateSG1'' are a subversion. They appear to have all the trappings of the trope, refusing even to fight the Goa'uld... until it's revealed that their technology is so far beyond that of the Goa'uld that they aren't really a threat, and their powers of invisibility and healing provide them with plenty of non-violent ways of keeping themselves alive. Later episodes show more nuance, such as hiding a weapon on behalf of someone else so ''they'' can use it if they are attacked.
-->'''Lya''': I only hid the weapon. I did not fire it.\\
'''Carter''': Ah. Pretty fine line you didn't cross there.\\
'''Lya''': ''[uncomfortably]'' Yes... it is.
* One episode of ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' had Picard and three other abductees put in a room. One of them was an alien from a completely pacifist culture who refused to help them escape, until their predicament and persistence made him change his mind.
* ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'':
** In the episode ''Mirror, Mirror,'' the Halkans tell the Empire that they are willing to "die as a race" to "preserve what we are." On the other side of the mirror, the Halkans mention something similar to the Federation, except in that case (it being ''TheFederation'') it's not suicidal and just gets them a 'I respect your convictions and the way you hold to them even if I don't agree with them' comment from Kirk.
** "Errand of Mercy" had an entire planet of PerfectPacifistPeople who would not raise a hand against the Klingons invading their home planet, even when the Klingons start killing them. [[spoiler:Turned out they were SufficientlyAdvancedAliens who only appeared in AFormYouAreComfortableWith and they weren't really hurt at all.]]
* An episode of ''Series/LegendOfTheSeeker'' has a warlord threaten a peaceful village whose people never fight. Richard offers to teach them to defend themselves. However, as soon as one of them attempts to strike in anger, he goes catatonic. Zedd figures out that these people are under a curse that causes this effect on any attempts at aggression. Despite his reservations, Zedd agrees to lift the curse. Unfortunately, this causes the newly-trained warriors to go absolutely berserk on the warlord's soldiers, and Richard goes berserk along with them. Zedd finds out that these people's ancestors were magically bound to an evil ancestor of Richard's ([[spoiler:a Lord Rahl]]) until a curse was placed on them to stop them from going berserk. The reason they go berserk is because they are tied to Richard the same way. They agree to let Zedd restore the curse and trick the warlord into leaving them alone.


[[folder: Religion ]]

* Present in Literature/TheBible, in the Book of Maccabees, where some Jews would rather let themselves be killed on the Sabbath than defend their lives. The eponymous family of the Maccabees decide to skip that rule in order to defend their country. (It's worth noting that most Jewish traditions, at least nowadays, are quite clear on the principle that working to save a life permits breaking the Sabbath).
** In Jesus' teachings he tells people to turn the other cheek when struck (though ValuesDissonance means that this was [[PassiveAggressiveCombat much more badass in his day]] than through modern eyes), to repay evil with good, and to show kindness to one's enemies. When his enemies show up to take him to his death, he not only doesn't resist in the least, he heals a man injured by one of his disciples.
** The Orthodox Christian Church has its own view on this trope. One work of Ivan Aleksandrovich Ilyin, a Russian religious and political philosopher, states that ActualPacifism and Suicidal Pacifism isn't Christian. It is your ''personal'' enemies you are to love, and even then you have the right to defend yourself. When you must protect other people/states/religion, you must stop the threat, [[ShootTheDog even if it means killing]], though only when other means are proved to fail. [[ItsPersonal But you shouldn't make a conflict personal.]] So, in fact, you should be a MartialPacifist or TechnicalPacifist. It's telling that the Orthodox Church ''approved'' his work.
** [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_war_theory Just War Doctrine]] is a similar code of conduct in the Catholic Church for discerning appropriate use of violence for the purposes of stopping evil. St. Augustine of Hippo was one of the first Christian philosophers to suggest the idea, and it was later expanded upon and discussed at length by St. Thomas Aquinas. The School of Salamanca further expanded upon Thomistic thought and is largely responsible for articulating the Doctrine as currently written in the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
* There's a story about a group of shakyas (noblemen from his country) whom Buddha had converted. When he left them, he predicted their death by brute force. Soon after, another king attacked and slaughtered them. They did not resist, giving us another example of this trope.
* The [[BadassPacifist people of Ammon]] in Literature/TheBookOfMormon were once bloodthirsty Lamanites, until they converted to Christ and vowed never to shed blood again. When their Lamanite brothers came to fight them, the people of Ammon didn't take up arms; instead, they prayed. Miraculously, the number of Lamanites who repented and joined the people of Ammon that day exceeded the number slain.


[[folder: Video Games ]]

* VideoGame/StellaDeusTheGateOfEternity: The Aeque teach that the advancing mist (that ''erases the existence'' of every living thing it touches) is the will of the gods and that everyone should accept their fate.
* In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX'' the [[spoiler:Cleyrans]] have lived in isolation from the rest of the world (under the protection of an almost unbreakable natural defence) for so long that they have absolutely no self-defense skills at all. When they're attacked by the army of [[spoiler:Alexandria and their defence fails]], they naively try to reason with the soldiers and, unfortunately, die in droves.
* In ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'', part of the motivation for Revan and his followers to break away from the Jedi Order was the [[BystanderSyndrome stubborn refusal]] of the Jedi Council to get involved in the Mandalorian Wars, which threatened to topple the entire Republic. In the second game, the Jedi Exile was one of those who fought in the war and frequently has the option [[ShutUpHannibal to respond]] to the Jedi Council's scorn, by pointing out their actions ''[[TheExtremistWasRight did]]'' save the galaxy, unlike the Council who preferred to stick their heads in the sand like cowards.
* ''{{VideoGame/Fallout 4}}'' has Captain Ironsides, sentry bot captain of the ''USS Constitution'', keeps his crew from fighting scavengers and raiders beyond defensive actions despite their constant attacks as his programming registers them as citizens of the Commonwealth, which means that he's to protect them (to an extent, as he can self-defense them to death if need be. In any case, no pursuit). He's actually aware of this and laments the fact that he can't do anything about it.
* The citizens of Fisherman's Horizon in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII'' oppose the use of violence, maintaining their belief that conflict can and should be resolved through peaceful communication. When the army of the BigBad shows up to occupy the town, the mayor walks out alone to try to negotiate, refusing any help from the heroes with the argument that getting them involved will only escalate matters; he is nearly killed before the party intervenes. Notably, not everyone in town is of equal mind on the subject - Mayor Dobe's wife Flo is quick to change her tune and demand that the heroes do something about the situation when the soldiers start showing up.
* Discussed by Javik in one of his idle banters with Garrus on the Normandy in ''Videogame/MassEffect3''. Javik recounts that in his cycle, a race called The Syndril claimed to have found the path to eternal peace, but they were all wiped out by another race called The Ditakur who preferred war. And then there's the Reapers and their [[MoreThanMindControl indoctrination tactics]], which turned anyone who spend a long time in contact with them into this. Everyone who's indoctrinated will willingly drop down their weapons, convinced that the Reapers aren't here to wipe out all organic life in the galaxy, and actively tries to sabotage any effort to stop them.


[[folder: Web Comics ]]

* In ''Webcomic/SluggyFreelance'' the [[AnotherDimension Dimension of Lame]] (which is populated entirely by sickeningly sweet, naive, and innocent people) gets [[TheLegionsOfHell invaded by demons]] from the [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Dimension of Pain]], who proceed to kill, devour, and rip out the souls of every human being who crosses their path. However, when a resistance group tries to organize, even the most psychotically violent individual on the planet can't do anything more than stub a demon's toe in self-defense without feeling unbearable guilt.
** Eventually the demons ''did'' begin to cooperate with the humans to a slight degree, but because the sheer number of helpless sheep to slaughter necessitated some organization on their part.
* Celia from ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'' has shades of this. She's perfectly willing to use her flight to help others survive, but won't harm anyone alive even when they're trying to kill her and reanimate her corpse as a golem (she will zap golems, [[UnwantedAssistance but that just made things worse]]). She also has no problem using her lightning zappy beams to create an impressive display as a set up to legally negotiating her way out of the situation.
* In ''[[http://www.electricsheepcomix.com/jain/01.html The Jain's Death]]'', a Jainist monk refuses to harm any living thing, which includes practices like eating only fruit and carrying a broom to carefully sweep away insects. Her death comes about when she is confronted by a tiger, but refuses to run because of an ant in her hair that she refuses to take from its colony. [[spoiler:However, this trope is subverted when she is reincarnated in another life as an organic mothership, now carrying every living thing from Earth. One could interpret it as TheCuckoolanderWasRight. The comic as a whole is pretty sympathetic to Jain beliefs, from what one can tell.]]


[[folder: Western Animation ]]

* ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'': Anakin, his apprentice, Aayla Secura, and some of their troops crash-land on Maridun, where they encounter a village of refugees. When the Separatists arrive, their leader blames the Republic for bringing them there, and refuses to fight them for any reason. And when they are told that the Separatists are going to use their village as target practice, he decides to just sit there and let it happen. Some of the younger Lurmen go against his wishes, and help the Republic forces defend their village though, meaning that this is was caused by a ruling ideological dogma, rather than it being a PlanetOfHats trait. This is egregious for two reasons. One is that, realistically, they should try to ''run away'' instead of fighting, due to Fight or Flight instincts (the leader does not indicate that he thinks the protagonists are lying about the attack). Secondly, the forces attacking the village ''[[MechaMooks are droids]]'', removing any ThouShaltNotKill justification. Also, this is just as much an example of a StrawCharacter. Compare them with Duchess Satine of Mandalore, who is a fellow ActualPacifist but also a [[BadassPacifist badass one]] who valiantly stands up to oppressors (non-violently, of course).
** [[spoiler:...But tragically, Satine is ultimately ''also'' an example of Suicidal Pacifism. Her refusal to fight is exploited by Death Watch and Darth Maul, who set up EngineeredHeroics that make themselves look like strong defenders while Satine is too weak to stop attacks, thereby getting the people on their side to overthrow Satine's rule. The series ends with Mandalore plunged into civil war and Satine killed.]]
* During ''WesternAnimation/TheBoondocks'' episode "Freedom Ride or Die", we learn that when Robert Freeman was young, he ''accidentally'' boarded a [[UsefulNotes/CivilRightsMovement Freedom Rider]] bus. The leader of the group, Reverend Sturdy Harris, was a very [[BadassPacifist brave]] (yet [[FearlessFool foolish]]) [[ActualPacifist devout pacifist]]. Sturdy eagerly led his group right through angry racist mobs and trigger-happy policemen, while [[GotVolunteered forcing Robert to endure all these ordeals against his will]]. Robert even outright accuses Sturdy of being [[DeathSeeker a wannabe martyr with a death wish]].
* [[CloudCuckooLander Wander]] of ''WesternAnimation/WanderOverYonder'' believes that violence is '''never''' the answer, even when dealing with an OmnicidalManiac that destroys galaxies [[ForTheEvulz for fun.]] On one occasion he helped pilot a giant robot during an EnemyMine, but refused to help fight the BigBad and [[ShaggyDogStory allowed her to destroy the robot and the planet they were trying to stop her from destroying.]] When the survivors of her rampage across the galaxy decided to take up arms against her, [[TooDumbToLive he went up to her ship to warn her and attempted to befriend her]]. It went about as well as you'd expect.


[[folder: Web Original ]]

* Folder from the Literature/WhateleyUniverse refuses to fight back when bullied, leading to a lot of injuries. Had the events of ''A Single Fold'' not played out as they had, he probably would have ended up dead.


[[folder: Real Life ]]

* The sad story of the Moriori people of Chatham Islands, who lived by a code of pacifism that forbade them to kill. When the Maori invaded their island and began to exterminate and eat them, some of the Moriori argued that pacifism shouldn't apply. In the end however, their chiefs decided that the principle of pacifism was never intended to be a strategy for survival - it was a moral imperative. Consequently the Moriori allowed themselves to be completely wiped out, except for those kept alive as slaves. Today only about 700 are left. To make things worse, it turns out that the Moriori were Maori who settled there in the 16th century, meaning their own long-lost cousins massacred them.
* [[UsefulNotes/DichterAndDenker German philosopher]] Oswald Spengler claimed in ''Literature/TheDeclineOfTheWest'' that this meant the preference of slavery over death (by fighting). As he explained: at the battle of Cannae, 50,000 Roman soldiers died. When the Mongols overran the metropolises of China and the Muslim world, the population didn't want to fight them, and hundreds of thousands of people died. Per metropolis, that is. The example of the Mongols is actually subverted: those cities who capitulated without a fight were generally spared widespread slaughter, and largely peacefully incorporated into the Empire. It was the ones who fought back who would be massacred as an example to the rest. This was common at the time elsewhere as well.
* One ''UndergroundComics'' artist had a father (also an artist) who was like this. As he wrote in one comic, when the other kids would beat up the son for having "fish lips", the father would say "don't hit back, don't lower yourself to their level".
* Thích Quảng Đức, the Buddhist monk who set himself on fire in a Saigon street during UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar as an act of protest. Note that he was not protesting the war itself, but the South Vietnamese government's persecution of Buddhists.
* [[UsefulNotes/MahatmaGandhi Mohandas Gandhi]] allegedly believed that the Jews should willingly kill themselves or give themselves over to slaughter by UsefulNotes/NaziGermany rather than employ violence against their aggressors, or that they should resist by nonviolence alone in spite of knowing the DisproportionateRetribution that Hitler's regime had become known for.[[note]]More charitable interpretations of Gandhi's statements suggest that the Jews had nothing to lose by non-violent resistance, since they were destined for a horrible death regardless, and Gandhi's suggestion was a middle way between doing nothing and fighting a losing battle. Less favorable interpretations suggest that Gandhi actually supported the Nazi regime, since they were fighting a war against the imperial powers of Britain and France.[[/note]] With the exception of several areas occupied by Japanese military forces and the Axis-aligned Indian National Army (the Andaman and Nicobar Islands, and parts of Manipur and Nagaland) India remained under Allied control for the duration of World War II so this policy was never put to the test on a large scale. However, during their presence in the Andaman and Nicobar Islands, the Japanese did prove that any resistance or suspected resistance to the Axis war effort would not be tolerated, and would be punished by imprisonment, forced labor, or summary execution. When the true scope of the Nazi Germany's plans became understood later on, Gandhi had to admit that even if passive resistance ''could'' work against the Nazi war machine, it would be "not without great losses."[[note]]Hitler actually did make offhand remarks about Gandhi himself to British politicians during diplomatic meetings between Germany and the UK on how to "deal" with the Indian National Congress that amounted to an escalating series of mass executions until they would be too terrified to resist their colonial overlords.[[/note]] Creator/HarryTurtledove wrote a short story of AlternateHistory in which Nazi Germany occupies India and Gandhi tries his ''satyagraha'' tactics against them, to total disaster (possibly a TakeThat against his view, as Turtledove himself is Jewish).