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What Do You Mean, It Wasn't Made On Drugs?
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alt title(s): What Do You Mean It Wasnt Made On Drugs
"I don't do drugs. I am drugs.
Salvador Dali
Any work whose creation seems to have involved large amounts of hallucinogens or cocaine or crack or any other illicit substance that makes people think really weird ideas are also really good ones. The plot hinges on bizarre transformations, freakish-looking creatures, and nonsensical actions that only seem to make sense in realms of logic far removed from your own. That it was the product of a deranged mind looks like a foregone conclusion.
And then you find out that it most certainly wasn't.
The creator claims that he wasn't taking drugs — or at least wasn't taking them then — or the creator just doesn't seem like a person who would take drugs of any sort.
Sometimes subverted — hell yes they were on drugs!
As this page was getting a tad long, head over to the subtrope, Deranged Animation for animated examples.
Commonly uttered in response to a Widget Series, Big Lipped Alligator Moment, or Dada Ad. Compare with Mind Screw and of course This Is Your Premise On Drugs. And enjoy this Onion AV Club inventory of notably trippy children's shows .
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Comic Books
- Many, many comics published by DC during the Silver Age. Prime examples are any Superman-related comic from the 1950s
or anything involving Bob Haney .
- Marvel, on the other hand, did in the inside art what DC did in the covers. Artists like Steve Ditko (who doesn't even consume alcohol), Jim Steranko (whose stories even contained some veiled anti-drug elements) and, to a lesser extent, Jack Kirby, famously created some trippy concepts.
- Notably, Steranko was one of the first artists allowed to write his own stories simply because no one else could write anything approaching his level of WTFery.
- I
second these two .
- Grant Morrison's Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth, a highly symbolic story illustrated by Dave McKean that features very weird and unusual versions of Batman and several of his villains and was primarily written late at night after long periods of no sleep, as Morrison was very straight-edge at the time.
- That being said, read Batman R.I.P. and tell me that it wasn't made on drugs. It contained a full issue of Batman getting high off of weapons-grade heroin, dressing up in a red and purple Batsuit and calling himself "The Batman of Zurr-en-Arrh" while beating criminals up with a baseball bat and talking to Bat-Mite, who may or may not have been a product of said weapons-grade heroin. Of course, this was an elaborate throwback to an obscure Silver Age-era story about Batman getting superpowers on Planet X, which was equally as trippy.
- See the bit immediately above about Grant Morrison? Same deal with anything by Alan Moore, but with added gnostic theory, obscure literary references and erotica.
- This would be Alan 'expelled from school for selling LSD' Moore?
- If the Doom comic is not a Stealth Parody, this seems to be the next logical conclusion.
- Carla Speed-McNeil's comic book series Finder may or may not be set on Earth in the distant future and features feathered dinosaurs who teach university courses, a college student minoring in anthropology and majoring in prostitution, a character who dreams of reuniting with his long lost father in the form of a locked outhouse, domed cities with pedestrian traffic jams and apartment buildings carved out of living trees ...and the author is a happily married woman with two kids (and a lot of weird interests).
- The image is from a series named Mighty Sampson, which is your typical fantasy barbarian series a la Conan — but it takes place After The End in the postapocalyptic land of N'Yaark, which is overrun with mutants, monsters, and Mix And Match Critters.
- Marvel Star Wars comics were all over the place in quality, and some issues were... out there. Many, many cat aliens, the psychic energy-eating rabbits called Hoojibs, the eight-foot green Lepus Carnivorous, a rather inane superweapon
, and just in general some very odd plots and characters.
- "Eight-foot green Lepus Carnivorous"? Grunny, is that you?
- The Umbrella Academy. Pick any issue from either The Apocalypse Suite arc or the Dallas arc, really, and then consider that its writer has been clean and sober for years now.
- The Breakfast Monkey. Then consider the fact that the creator of The Umbrella Academy wasn't doing drugs yet when he created The Breakfast Monkey.
Film
- The Wizard Of Oz film: There's a scene where Dorothy falls asleep due to magical poppies only to be woken by magical snow, for heaven's sake!
- Well, the snow can't be vouched for, but poppies are used to make a number of medicinal drugs that cause people to fall asleep as well as harder, more dangerous street drugs. Baum probably originally intended for them to have a completely obvious them to have a laudanum-style effect.
- 2001: A Space Odyssey, the movie. It has been claimed that drug-users would sneak into theaters just to watch the climax while stoned.
- Which the producers capitalized on when they re-released it in the 1970s with the tagline, still the ultimate trip!
- Arthur C Clarke himself tells of an anonymous young person stuffing an envelope in his hand containing a note of thanks... together with a powdery substance and an assurance that it was "the best stuff".
- Likewise The Shining. The cast of the movie, before filming, would indeed all get stoned — but not using drugs. Stanley Kubrick just screened Eraserhead. Speaking of...
- Eraserhead.
- Any musical filled with Disney Acid Sequences and Busby Berkeley Numbers, especially Moulin Rouge!
- To be fair, early Disney and Busby Berkeley films were made under the influence of Technicolor, which got everyone excited when it was new. In those years, film productions were encouraging each other and competing for the most spectacular use of colors they pack onto celluloid.
- The 5,000 Fingers Of Dr. T. It's bizarre even for Dr Seuss.
- "Bart, hand me some of that pickle juice." "Jeepers, are you sure? That's some powerful stuff!" "I won't let some siamese twins on rollerskates make a monkey of me!"
- Not to mention that the child star Tommy Rettig went onto become a famed acid guru...
- Being John Malkovich.
- Synecdoche, New York - It starts off mildly conventional, but after we've encountered the family living in a house that's perpetually on fire for 30 years, the bizarre fake city in a warehouse, the play with 3 million actors, and the diary that updates daily even though the girl writing in it is apparently on the other side of the planet...man, Charlie Kaufman's one weird guy.
- Donnie Darko was loopy but enjoyably confusing...
- Then somebody futzed with Richard Kelly's dosage and we got Southland Tales.
- The fudged-up, trippy mess that was Across the Universe. Either the filmmakers were emulating the Beatles in every aspect of their lives including the '60s level drug use, or they were doing one hell of an approximation.
- Mirror Mask. Picture a world inhabited almost entirely by creatures out of the darkest corners of the Uncanny Valley. Then up the weird factor by about fifty.
- Actually, a better description is that the movie is like stepping into a Dave Mc Kean painting, as that's who was in charge of the visuals. Most of the "Helena's" drawings were actually done by Mc Kean. Also remember that Mc Kean was responsible for most of the Sandman covers. Yeah. It's kinda like that.
- Actually, Neil Gaiman just thinks like that. And the world mythology he studies obsessively really is that weird. Check out Coraline while you're at it, not to mention his classic Sandman graphic novels.
- And yet he seems so terribly normal and unassuming on his Twitter feed! This troper had to get used to that.
- This troper met Neil and he is very much like that in person.
- Rocky Horror Picture Show, anyone?
- The 1967 version of Casino Royale could best be described as "James Bond on massive amounts of acid" but had a fairly respectable creative team behind it. Aside from being a spoof, much of the effect comes from creative issues leading to there being five different directors whose scenes did not mesh very well.
- C'mon, it cast Woody Allen as James Bond's nephew - as a villain.
- The ending includes a UFO, Frankenstien's Monster, Cowboys and Indians, a flying roulette wheel, a monkey, and a seal
- The Kin and Dark Floors, both created and worked on by Finnish monster rockers Lordi, only make sense when the viewers are under the influence of rather powerful hallucinogens. The creators, however, were totally sober throughout production.
- There's this guy from Toronto named David Cronenberg...
- Monkeybone. A cartoonist nearly dies, leaving his body open to use to another soul - a chance pounced upon by his eponymous creation. While Monkeybone wreaks surreal havoc in this world, his creator has to barter with Dream (Giancarlo Esposito) and Death (Whoopy Goldberg) in the hereafter. It's all way Better Than It Sounds, really.
- Supposedly the cut footage would have made it more coherent.
- Leningrad Cowboys Go America.
- Zardoz was made on drugs. If you listen to John Boorman's highly entertaining DVD commentary track, he openly admits it.
- Barbarella: the story, the characters, their clothes, their names, the sets... First time you watch the movie you'll be staring at the screen in disbelief. It could only have been made in the Drugs Decade. There is literally not a single scene, dialog or set that could count as an exception.
- I'd say read the original Jean-Claude Forest comicbook: It gets even odder from there...
- Perhaps you have heard of this Midnight movie called The Room?
- The Happiness Of The Katakuris. Enough said.
- The 1988 Dan Ackroyd/Kim Basinger movie My Stepmother Is An Alien. Apart from being Alyson Hannigan's film debut, the entire movie plays like a halluncinogen-fueled rewrite of My Girl, except that My Girl came out three years later.
- The Man Who Fell To Earth (1976) is a perfect example. See here
and here. The director says he wanted to see if movies could show time going in a non-linear direction or even sideways. The first two thirds of the movie seem normal until the point where you can tell when the director made this "decision."
- Napoleon Dynamite. Set in the '90s but comes across like it's the '80s; teenage slacker Napoleon tries to help his monosyllabic friend Pedro become class president while his uncle Rico peddles Tupperware and his older brother Kip harbors aspirations of becoming a cage fighter. There's more but...you have to see it for yourself.
- Uh, the film version of Pink Floyd's The Wall anyone?
- And, for that matter, Repo The Genetic Opera?
- The Cell. Though, to be fair, the characters kind of were on drugs.
- We're Back! A Dinosaur's Story, while having already made the Nightmare Fuel page, also looks as if it had been written and produced on several drug trips. To quote That Guy With The Glasses, "This is 'Land Before Time' on crystal meth."
- The Cabinet Of Dr Caligari is like something made by Dr. Seuss' Evil Twin. In fact, anything titled The [noun] of Dr. [name] is liable to end up here.
- Terry Gilliam in general. He does not do drugs, yet is responsible for much of Monty Python's humor, as well as directing Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, which does a very good job of depicting the effects of the many substances partaken by the protagonists. Or So I Heard.
- The Coen Brothers; Raising Arizona, Barton Fink, The Hudsucker Proxy, The Big Lebowski...
- I'm slightly appalled that nobody thought of Yellow Submarine.
- Jesus Christ Vampire Hunter. If one watches it sober, the ridiculousness of the plot, the cheesiness of the special effects, the stupid dialogue, and the bizarre combination of '70s vibe and unquestionably late '90s setting conspire to convince you that you really should have watched it stoned.
- Damon Packard's Reflections of Evil. Mere words cannot do it justice; perhaps a glimpse of its trailer will suffice
. Yes, the ENTIRE MOVIE is like that.
- Forbidden Zone. Kind of inevitable if you're going to make a low budget live action movie musical inspired by Deranged Animation of the 1930's, but that description really only scratches the surface. Director and script co-writer Richard Elfman claims to have never used drugs though.
- We Are The Strange: A doll boy who lives alone in a forest wants to go get ice cream, but he sees no point unless he has someone to enjoy it with. He befriends a girl who just broke up with an abusive boyfriend and the two of them set off for the ice cream parlor...which happens to a spooky town haunted by monsters...and then the doll-boy dances with Mega Man and Pac-Man...and then he plays Wario Ware while inside a Humongous Mecha...So Yeah
- How can we have gotten this far without anyone mentioning Fantasia?! Cossack-dancing flowers? Water-carrying brooms? Ballerina hippos?! This is a film that this troper and his friends watched on a whim because our evening wasn't weird enough, and then quit halfway through because the evening had become too weird!
- El Sexo y Lucia is a movie that starts at the beginning, then flashes forward, to the middle and all over the place. Part of the story involves one of the main characters telling bedtime stories to his daughter, but the daughter doesn't even know it's his dad. In the stoires that he tells, the main character can jump into holes in the ground and pop out at any other point in the story, which was kind of what the movie was doing. In addition to the odd sequence of the movie, the mother of his daughter doesn't find out that the father has been in contact with the daughter until after the father helps cause the daughter's death, the father sleeps with the babysitter just to get to his daughter, the babysitter's mother is a porn star, and the titular character falls in love with the father after reading his fictional book. All of this is played straight.
Literature
- The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy scene after Ford and Arthur are improbably rescued by the Heart of Gold and are suffering various side-effects of the Infinite Improbability Drive: Ford briefly turns into a penguin, Arthur's limbs start to detach from his body, and later the two encounter "an infinite number of monkeys" who want to show them their version of a Shakespeare play. What do you mean, it's not a Mushroom Samba?
- Well, it's infinite improbability. You have to admit, it's infinitely improbable that any of those things would actually happen... there are a lot of weird things in there.
- The Movie has fun with this; The first time the drive is fired to take them to Viltvodle VI, they turn into sofas. They maintain calm for exactly three seconds. When they use it again to go to Magrathea, they transform into knitted dolls. Arthur vomits yarn.
- Most books by Philip K Dick. Some particularly notable examples include The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch and A Scanner Darkly, but it really applies to nearly all of his books.
- He did write most of them while NOT on drugs, too. But yes, he used LSD sometimes, thus he knew what he was talking about. Anyway, he was crazy enough not to need any sort of drugs to hallucinate, schizophrenia does that for you. He wrote a "semi-"autobiographical book about that too : VALIS.
- PKD's family and friends agree that he never used or needed LSD. He did take (then-legal) amphetemines, and could write a book non-stop, apparently plotting it from memory as he wrote.
- Frank Herbert was also no stranger to mind-expanding substances, and they're included in some form, usually as a central theme, in every one of his works.
- Neuromancer reads like a junkie travelogue: Case and his group rob people, "jack in", move to a new place to evade capture, all while really surreal shit is thrown in our faces. The amount of drugs Gibson did in his youth would corroborate this.
- Not to mention the lengths Case goes to to get drugs that he can actually get high from, and Rivera's (literally) drug-fueled holographic craziness.
- There is some speculation that the Book of Revelation, as well as a few other passages of the Bible involving visions, were written under the influence of hallucinogens.
- There is a persistent belief (even on this very wiki page, see below) that Lewis Carroll wrote Alice's Adventures in Wonderland while stoned out of his mind on opium or hallucinogens. The book contains scenes of mushrooms causing Alice to grow and shrink, talking animals, a caterpillar smoking a hookah, the list goes on. The argument is unfortunately pure fantasy, since Carroll was by all accounts an upstanding, devout, model Victorian of the upper-middle class and not the sort of person to experiment with mind-altering substances. He didn't even drink! All instances of "drug references" can be easily explained away by pointing out that Alice is both a children's book and a satire of Victorian society. Many of the characters are direct references to people Alice and Carroll knew personally.
- For example, the caterpillar smokes a hookah because he is a satire of British generals of the day, many of whom lived in India and indulged in opium.
- Though to be fair, Carroll's fascination with little girls borders on pedophilia in the eyes of many people.
- Pedophile or not, that doesn't mean he was on drugs. The two are not mutually inclusive.
- Just two of the many MANY Interpretations of those books. One says it's a satire of Victorian society, another says it's a Freudian tract disguised as a children's book. One says it was actually meant to be horror story disguised as a children's book. The list goes on and on and on. That's how messed up it is. Or how messed up we are.
- That makes me think a bit. Perhaps we -the people of our time- are the messed up ones for assuming such things, since we would know of such.
- There is a marvelous book titled The Annotated Alice that gives footnotes and references for all the analogies, allegories and logic puzzles in the Alice stories, edited by famed mathematical puzzles dude Martin Gardner. Suffice to say, the annotations contain nearly as much text as the original stories.
- -also 'Alice in Sunderland', which shows how merely growing up in the city of Sunderland could cover it all; local legend, people and history.
- The size changing problems that Alice has is based on the author's experiences though. He suffered from bad migraines that caused his sense of proportion to go crazy and and made him feel like a giant or tiny.
- Parts of the Illuminatus!-trilogy almost certainly were made on drugs, considering that it's authors were major proponents of drug-legalization in real life. There are many scenes in which the protagonists indulge in cannabis and LSD, with detailed descriptions of the effects. The extremely non-linear narrative along with sudden jumps to surreal imagery that has little to no bearing to the plot probably reflects the points where the authors themselves decided to indulge some.
- The works of HP Lovecraft seem so twisted and surreal, and often even involve drug use by the characters themselves, that the Cthulhu Mythos experienced a huge surge in popularity throughout the drug culture of the 1960s and '70s, whose members assumed he must've written his stories under the influence of something. Lovecraft himself, however, was a neurotically strict and sheltered intellectual who never touched drugs or alcohol, and even dismissed sex as a distraction for "lesser minds".
- J.R.R. Tolkien faced much the same assumptions about the The Hobbit and The Lord Of The Rings from the exact same hippie/stoner fans, particularly a widespread belief that Gandalf's pipeweed is really pot. That's in spite of the prologue to The Fellowship of the Rings saying that "it was a variety, probably, of Nicotiana" and Bilbo himself calling it "tabacco" at the end of The Hobbit.
- "Your love of the halflings' leaf has surely slowed your mind."
- "Finest weed in the South Farthing!"
- The Vampire Diaries: The Return: Nightfall
. I don't know what she was thinking.
- Imajica, a fantasy/horror novel by British author Clive Barker. Features drugs, sex, violence, more sex, magic, making people's heads explode by magic, creepy disturbing sex, torture, speaking in tongues, and messianic prophecies... and that's just what happens to the main character.
- That's not to mention the Abarat series. Seems Barker painted three-hundred oil paintings containing very weird characters and settings. Then he came up with a story for them to "live in".
- The downright Mind Screwy Doctor Who Expanded Universe novel was once described with the phrase "...when I read an 8DA [Eighth Doctor Adventure] and start believing that someone has stuck some LSD in my Evian bottle..." by someone who liked the book.
- Jason X: Death Moon. The author had a habit of going on nonsensical rants that have nothing to do with what little story there is. There's one part that's just pages and pages talking about nothing but Bride of Frankenstein star Elsa Lanchester in a disjointed fashion...
- Thomas Pynchon reputedly wrote parts of Gravitys Rainbow while on acid. This is quite believable. In fact, it is more unbelievable that he didn't write the whole damned thing high as a kite.
- Sections of American Psycho seem to delve into this trope, though Your Mileage May Vary since Patrick Bateman was, it should go without saying Ax Crazy.
- Anthony Trollope has a passage whose obvious interpretation has changed in the last century in The Small House at Allington: on being pressed for information about a lady-love with the initials "L. D.", Johnny Eames insists that his true love is "L. S. D.", a slang term not for acid (which hadn't been invented yet), but money (pounds, shillings, pence).
- Lysergic acid diethylamide (1940 or 41) check the spelling.
- The Small House at Allington: 1864.
Music
- The Beatles claim that Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds was inspired by a picture John Lennon's son drew about a girl named Lucy, not the drug "LSD". Currently, the most accepted explanation is that although parts of the song are probably drug-inspired, it's equally inspired by the drawing, and the title's "LSD" acronym is a complete coincidence.
- The rumour was probably helped by the sequence for that song in Yellow Submarine.
- Ironically, one of their few songs they admitted was about drugs was the innocuous-sounding "Got to Get You Into My Life."
- Come Together was most definitely done under the influence.
- Come Together is said to have been written as the campaign song for Timothy Leary's brief foray into politics. Leary and Lennon were friends.
- George Harrison has talked about writing "Here Comes the Sun" after doing a hit of acid at Eric Clapton's house. Again, it's often not the song you would have expected.
- Last Dance With Mary Jane.
- While marijuana is involved in the song, the music video is about Petty as a morgue assistant who takes home the corpse of a woman (played by Kim Basinger) for a dinner date. Necrophiliac sex with her is the "last dance". Talk about MTV trying to pretend it's about something else...
- Heartbreaker guitarist Mike Campbell said, "My take on it is it can be whatever you want it to be. A lot of people think it's a drug reference, and if that's what you want to think, it very well could be, but it could also just be a goodbye love song."
- Some of of Montreal's recent albums, especially Skeletal Lamping, sound like quaaludes set to music, and certainly make references to (other people using and pushing) drugs. But the lead singer has repeatedly denied drug use — he's just utterly lost his mind. Even "Heimdalsgate Like a Promethian Curse" (Chemicals) from Hissing Fauna is, according to Word Of God, about serotonin.
- Puff The Magic Dragon got some heat from the Moral Guardians about praising drug use, something the band that made it denied quite vehemently. Since the other music of Peter, Paul, and Mary is so strait-laced, this is apparently just an accident.
- It was never intended that way, but the song is sometimes re-interpreted as a metaphor for drug addiction, with the little boy's growing up and leaving behind his toy dragon representing giving up drug abuse and taking responsibility for one's own life.
- The video for The King of Wishful Thinking
is a... loose interpretation of the innocuous song. It's as if a very, very dull man has utterly lost his mind. Oh, and bad white man dancing throughout.
- "The Most Unwanted Song" wasn't made on drugs. It was carefully made to incorporate the most annoying Music Tropes ever, according to the people surveyed. It's mind-bogglingly bizarre. Especially when they get to the country/opera/rap bit. And the children shouting with joy over every holiday in the calendar year, and the prospect of doing the appropriate shopping at Wal-Mart. If you don't go "WTF" at least once, you are an alien. Oh, and have we mentioned it's longer than Inna Gadda Davida? Enjoy.
- Oddly, this editor has been listening to this song as she edited this page — and it's actually kind of catchy. Balls-out insane and evil in a way the PMRC could never imagine, but catchy.
- Red Hot Chili Peppers. Particularly "Behind the Sun." And considering that between them they've probably done enough illicit substances to kill a herd of buffalo, it really is hard to believe it wasn't made on drugs.
- Try reading a songmeanings.net page on any song (especially by an artist associated with stoners like Pink Floyd or Modest Mouse) without getting a comment like "wooah man i want some of the drugss that tihs gut wuz on lol" or insisting that the song is actually about drugs.
- Almost anything by Tori Amos. Particularly the albums From the Choirgirl Hotel, Boys for Pele, and To Venus and Back. ESPECIALLY To Venus and Back.
- Well, "Father Lucifer" was written after Tori met Satan on a drug trip with a South American shaman. I think it's possible that drugs influence(d) Tori. Just listen to "Datura". It sounds like a trip on...well, datura.
- Unexpect. I almost hope these guys are on drugs, because the idea of a sober and otherwise sane person coming up with a track like Megalomaniac Trees
is unsettling.
- Ted Nugent is an adamant straight-edge, and aside from some brief experimentation in The Sixties has never used drugs and, by his own confession, has had maybe three beers in his entire life. In this light, his entire musical catalogue falls into this category.
- Musical Youth's "Pass The Dutchie To The Left Hand Side", widely construed to be about marijuana, refers instead to a Jamaican cooking pot. It was, however, based on a song called "Pass The Kouchie", which did indeed refer to a cannabis pipe.
- Most people still don't know (or care), and dutchie now has become slang for a joint. Or So I Heard.
- Alice Cooper used to abuse alcohol heavily, then sobered up in the 80s. His pre-sobriety work is sometimes trippy, sometimes scary. His later work, particularly Along Came a Spider, often goes straight into Nightmare Fuel Unleaded.
- Everything done by Genesis while headed by Peter Gabriel, especially The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
.
- Trippy balladeer Donovan renounced drugs in 1966 after police raided his home...and went on to pen Atlantis and an album entitled A Gift from a Flower to a Garden.
- Before at least one live performance of his song "Special Olympics", Stephen Lynch told the audience that he was wasted when he wrote it.
- Close to the Edge by Yes (all three tracks, not just the title track) hovers tantalisingly on the border of almost making sense, but not quite. Whether this indicates anything about the process of creation...
- Actually, everything ever made by Yes, ever.
- Steve Howe and Chris Squire have both commented in various interviews over the years that a lot of the seemingly trippy, surrealistic lyrics in Yes' "classic" period (i.e. the 1970s) came about not through drugs, as everyone assumes, but because Jon Anderson considered their voices as just another instrument. He would string nonsense lyrics together based on whatever words would fit the music and, as long as the words sounded good when they were sung, he didn't care if they made any sense or not. (This may also have been a case of Jon knowing his audience, many of whom probably were on drugs at the time.)
- Somewhat subverted by Rush. While they've made no secret of their heavy use of hallucinogenics in the 70s(Hemispheres...), they've apparently been straight since then, yet the only apparent change is their songs have gotten shorter. Listen to Grace Under Pressure sometime...
- Anything by Miranda July
. Not exactly music, but it doesn't really fit anywhere else, and she did release it as an album... If you do manage to find any of her albums, it'd probably be a good idea not to listen to the whole thing at once. And under no circumstances should you listen to her on hallucinogens.
- Many people feel Jethro Tull, in particular writer/singer/flutist Ian Anderson, were on drugs given Ian's jumping around on stage and his crazy, wide-eyed expressions. However, Anderson rarely drinks, smokes little (or none at this point) tobacco, and does not do drugs at all. In fact, he once said that his few experimentation experience actually hindered his creativity. I can't vouch for all of his band-mates, though most party-goers usually clashed with Ian's early-to-bed-early-to-rise lifestyle.
- The music video for Chris Dane Owens' "Shine On Me" would be an example even if Owens' eyes weren't bloodshot throughout the video.
New Media and etc.
- An educational short dubbed from Portuguese, entitled Island of Flowers. It had such moments as an Overlong Running Gag audio matched to visuals of the holocaust, describing everything from the perspective of Humans From Alien Eyes (including explaining what water is), having a shriek of pain when someone jabbed a model of a human brain, and so on. It was nine minutes of bipolarly nightmarish and hilarious non-sequiturs that vaguely segued into a message about garbage in the last minute or so. Watch it here, for I must share the hilarious yet nightmarish imagery
. At one point it described a History test. The visual for a question about Genghis Khan was a picture of Mozart, and the visual for a question about Mesopotamia was a picture of California. Bear in mind that this movie was shown as part of the curriculum for a college course on Human Ecology.
- It's brilliant. The "vaguely segued into message about garbage" is the whole point of the movie. The Island of Flowers is a place where poor people have to eat out of the trash, after pigs rummaged through it. That is, they get to eat what the pigs didn't want themselves.
- It's actually just like a slightly retarded Wikipedia session, especially with the jumps between topics like opening new tabs.
- Similar to the above, but less balls-out insane: "Look Around You." The entire series is on You Tube. It appears to be from the late 70's, and is a rather odd parody of British educational programming. By "rather odd," I mean "Bobobo-Bo Bo-Bobo" level insanity.
- It was actually made around 2005. The 70's look is amazingly spot-on.
- And the "Helvetica Scenario" from the pilot episode, "Calcium", is grade-A Nightmare Fuel.
- You Tube Poop. In fact one maker answered the question "Did any of your ideas for Poops come from recreational drugs or alcohol?" with a "Yes.".
- Homestar Runner dot net. "It's dot com!"
- Tunak
. Just watch.
- Timecube.
That is all.
- I dare you to watch anything by the Brothers Quay. Their stuff also crosses over heavily into Nightmare Fuel territory.
- Salvador Dalí, despite what one might think from his paintings, made a point of not using psychoactives of any sort. He simply stayed up until he started hallucinating from sleep deprivation, then painted what he saw.
- Not You Tube, Yooouuu Tuuube. Take any video from YouTube and chuck it here
. For example: this + YooouuuTuuube = whooooaa
- Come to think of it, that video used in the example by itself also qualifies.
People
- "I don't do drugs. I am drugs." — Salvador Dali.
- Although Dali sometimes made use of a mild (and legal) hallucinogen. He went to sleep very late after eating an entire Camembert cheese. This Troper has tried it once (with milder Brie) and let me tell you, those dreams were vivid!
- The late Frank Zappa had a well known dislike of drugs, yet wrote songs such as "The Return of the Son of Monster Magnet" and "Billy the Mountain", which is about how you shouldn't try to persuade a mountain to fight in 'Nam, and gave his children names like Moon Unit, Dweezil, and Diva.
- Zappa had done marijuana a handful of times in social situations to be polite, and enjoyed the occasional beer. His real drugs were coffee and cigarettes. And don't forget, the rest of the band members were not strangers to drugs, despite Zappa's "no drugs on the road" policy. This policy was mostly so the cops would not have an excuse to bust him, and Zappa, perfectionist he is, wrote music that is very hard to play with any sort of quality if you're not sober!
- Zappa wrote music that is very hard to play, period.
- Sounds like he didn't need any drugs; he was just naturally that way. Frank Zappa On Drugs would be an accountant or insurance adjuster or something.
- He wrote a rock opera that has a charater based on L Ron Hubbard (okay, not based. He uses Hubbard's name) who heads a cult focused around sex with household appliances. Plus, the main character joins the cult and has sex with household appliances...that speak German.
- Inversion: Robin Williams did take drugs until 1982, but they weren't making him wackier anyway. Cocaine had a reverse metabolic effect on him, slowing him down and making him paranoid (and as he said, impotent). He's been sober since John Belushi's death except for a brief relapse of alcoholism in the early 2000s (he went to rehab in 2006).
- The dude's also bipolar, and resisted treatment for a long time because he was afraid of losing his creativity. (As it turned out, no problem — and now he can do "straight" roles too!)
- Considering that cocaine and Ritalin affect the same brain chemicals in generally the same way (although the intensity and duration of the effects are very different), it's not too surprising that someone like Robin Williams might find cocaine to be calming in small doses. (And, yes, you can get a cocaine-like high from a Ritalin overdose.)
- Similar literary example: This is apparently the effect that Sherlock Holmes was after. In one of the stories, he remarks that he takes cocaine to calm the brain when he doesn't have a case to focus on.
- Quoth Robin himself in a stand up act, "I'm the same asshole, I just have fewer dents in my car."
- Pick almost anything made by Mike Patton. For an example, watch this
piece of pure Nightmare Fuel and remember the man wrote it takes nothing stronger than caffeine.
- Say what you will about Jack and Kage, the director and co-writer of the Tenacious D movie, musician/director Liam Lynch is most emphatically not on drugs. Same goes for his skit and music videos podcast, Lynchland, which is even more surreal.
- As Eddie Izzard once said, "People think I'm on drugs, but I'm not, really. Just a little coffee... put me on drugs it has the opposite effect! I start going: 'Oh! Pensions! Very sensible. And car insurance, yes...'"
- Interestingly, that's true for some people. Not for hallucinogens, usually, but amphetamines have a reversed effect on some people, particularly those with hyperactive disorders. This is the basis of ADHD treatment with Ritalin, which is otherwise used to treat narcolepsy and chronic fatigue!
- Doug TenNapel's work is usually seen as very weird by a mainstream perspective, and therefore people tend to assume he's on drugs. Contrastingly, he's a rather conservative Christian who finds the notion that you can only be creative on drugs to be highly offensive and wishes people would stop doing it.
- They Might Be Giants are often mistaken for drug addicts because of the surreal nature of their songs. They drink a lot of coffee, but that's it.
- Geof Darrow, one of the lead concept artists on The Matrix. He designed the Sentinels and the giant battery-tower-things. He was also the artist for a graphic novel called Hard Boiled, which was also known for an almost obsessive attention to weird details in the art (and was written by Frank Miller, besides). As producer Joel Silver said, "You know how in the movie Morpheus tells Neo he has to free his mind? Geof's mind is free." Darrow noted that he'd been asked more than once what kind of drugs he took, and as he was now in his forties, said "Centrum Silver and Metamucil".
- While we're on the subject: The Wachowskis. The Matrix movies were enjoyably trippy. Then the siblings skipped on their meds and we started wondering what scary-ass version of Speed Racer they watched on Saturday mornings...
- Andy Kaufman is another example of a 1970s performer whose work, from Foreign Man, to bringing a sleeping bag out on stage and taking a nap, to his various worked shoots, to his posthumously published writings, would suggest he was on something illicit when he conceived them. But since childhood he had been prone to eccentric behavior (he conceived routines such as "Mighty Mouse" then), and his drinking and drug use as a teen hardly figured into his artistic equation. As an adult he was a near-health nut who practiced Transcendental Meditation.
- Tim Allen, AFAIK, didn't take drugs. He did, however, sell them.
- Elton John had a history of fighting drug addiction. Nowadays his outfits and certain lyrics are the only part of him that trips balls.
- Ozzy Osbourne, in his own words "for the last God-knows how many years, I've been a major practicing drug addict and alcoholic", now claims to be completely drug-free, having even stopped taking a powerful anti-seizure medication that he says was largely responsible for his speech impediment. He says all he's on now is "lots of coffee" and that if they ever make coffee illegal, "I'm fucked."
- He said that his latest album, Black Rain, is the first one he's ever recorded while sober.
- It's Ozzy. He probably doesn't need them anymore.
- Cartoonist John Kricfalusi, who is best known as the creator of Ren And Stimpy which is known for its Deranged Animation was asked in an interview if he used drugs. He replied, "Of course not, I don't need them".
- When asked if he had ever smoked marijuana, Tom Lehrer cheekily replied: "I have never done an illegal substance in my life...and I have never told a lie."
- Comedian Bill Bailey is eager to point out that acid is boring and merely made him notice patterns and shapes in furniture: "FORMS AN N FORMS AN N FORMS AND N..."
- Seth Macfarlane used to smoke pot, but stopped because it made him paranoid.
Tabletop Games
- FATAL pretty much looks like it absolutely had to be made on some extremely strong drugs. Except for it couldn't have been, since nobody could actually survive taking that much.
- Is there a drug that makes one absolutely obsessed with rape?
- No, but there are mental illnesses...
- Combine large amounts of questionable drugs, with mental illness, and the mindset of the kind of people who sicken /b/, and you have FATAL.
- Anything connected with Tzeentch and Slaanesch in Warhammer and Warhammer 40000.
Television
- In the late 1960s-early 1970s, when a lot of mainstream film and TV was going trippy, the style filtered down to kiddie entertainment. Sid and Marty Krofft's works, as well as the film Willy Wonka And The Chocolate Factory, are prime examples of this trope in action as a result.
- While the role of drugs in the conceptualization of HR Pufnstuf is pretty easy to assume, the Brothers Krofft swear that it was not made on drugs, and did at one point fire a crew member for showing up stoned.
- Lazy Town is an excellent modern example. Its creator is a teetotaler for Pete's sake.
- and its message is not even "don't do drugs", it's "don't do sugar"!
- The preschool show Boohbah likewise seems like LSD in the form of a TV show.
- Such TV is merely live cartoons: cheaper.
- The Prisoner
- Doctor Who
- And several of its Expanded Universe novels, like Sky Pirates! or the Eyes of Schirron — a book that existed to showcase as many bad puns and silly sex jokes as the author could get away with. Interestingly enough it sold well enough for the author, Dave Stone, to be invited back for at least one direct sequel.
- Mind you, the 'About the author' blurbs for Sky Pirates! and its sequel read, respectively: "Dave Stone is on medication." and "Obviously the medication was ineffective."
- In the world of Tokusatsu,we have Voicelugger.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvHvpf2mIfQ&feature=related
- According to Monty Python Speaks, the writing team have been accused of drug-taking during the series, when aside from Graham Chapman's booze they were as sober as any 1970s British office worker. That isn't to say they never partook (the book doesn't delve that much into their personal lives), just that their writing was not informed by it.
- The Muppet Show has quite a few screwed up sketches. Like this one
.
- Jim Henson in general. Check out Time Piece and The Cube if you don't believe me.
- Pee Wees Playhouse.
- Spoofed on Tim And Eric Awesome Show Great Job. During an interview-style sketch, the interviewer (Michael Ian Black) asks them if they use drugs as inspiration for the show, as if it's some clever revelation, and Tim says they do (and calls it "marijuano"). This was meant to satirize this trope/the trend of thinking that anything relatively creative or strange must have been made on drugs.
- The point of the joke, however, was that Tim and Eric do in fact use drugs, and Tim may well have been lightly toasted at the time of the "interview."
- Yo Gabba Gabba
- The Wiggles was an Australian kids show that was apparently played straight though that might be open to interpretation
- "Magic, Magic E
" and the less well-known "Drop That E " were two songs from the British educational series Look and Read. Though today they both look like obvious attempts to get one past the radar, they actually have a fairly watertight alibi, as they were written almost a decade before the rave era took off.
- Mr Show co-creator and admitted pot-smoker David Cross has commented on how frustrated he gets when stoners assume that writers for the show were perpetually stoned, rather than simply hard-working and creative.
- Bananas In Pajamas. Even the title sounds like it was made on drugs.
- Teletubbies the show makes very little sense it involves four brightly colored creatures with televisions on their stomachs and antennas on their heads who can't even speak properly except for the words "again" and "tubby custard" and their names, it also has a wide field filled with rabbits who are never addressed and a sun with a baby's face on it, how this wasn't made on drugs is a mystery.
- Children's television hasn't got any less insane for being contemporary. Remember how odd Teletubbies was first time you saw it? Imagine upping your crack dose and getting Sir Derek Jacobi involved. Behold — In the Night Garden! Peculiarly charming, but it takes several episodes to convince your brain you really are seeing what it thinks you're seeing.
- It looks rather like this
. And from the opening it would seem to be a dream within a dream... which might explain a lot.
- The suit designs for 2009's Kamen Rider Decade. This troper and her friend INSIST the art department responsible was smoking SOMETHING...
- Mystery Science Theater 3000. Joel Hodgson in particular has been thought to be a stoner due to his sleepy eyes.
- Hodgson has repeated in interviews that the idea that his character was a stoner was his own fault, as he had stayed up all night the night before the taping of the pilot building the robots, and as a result, he was sleepy when they filmed it. It can be especially bad during Season 1, when the staff were working 12-hour days 7 days a week. Hodgson has also mentioned pretending to be sleepy helped him manage his stage freight, which he slowly managed to alleviate (but never get 100% over) as the show progressed.
- A show produced for Nickelodeon that was never picked up called Adventure Time
appears to be massively influenced by drugs. The show's creator even has it listed as a question on his FAQ. He says, no, that he is just a weird, funny guy.
- This troper has to admit that that one pilot has some of the most random catchphrase-type expressions ever. Algebraic!
- Several creations by J.J. Abrams. Most notably Lost and Fringe. Need I say more?
- Wonder Showzen— of course, since one of the head writers is the voice actor for Towelie this was probably the case.
- The BBC's Robin Hood. No really. It has Robin hang-gliding from the parapets of a castle, Maid Marian practicing Tai Chi outside her house, a mangy old lion set loose on Sherwood Forest, costumes that were apparently bought at The 11th century Gap, arrows that defy physics, berets, a black Friar Tuck, hair gel, a man who throws ninja stars, a casino (complete with show-girls), and a plug in the cellar of Nottingham Castle that is somehow able to stop the flow of the River Trent. If that doesn't convince you, then the writers were clearly on drugs when they thought that killing off Maid Marian on a show aimed at children was a good idea.
- The Nostalgia Critic believes that Double Dare was so surreal it had to be inspired by drugs.
- This troper has a lot of trouble believing that the Farscape episodes "Won't Get Fooled Again" and "John Quixote" weren't made on drugs. Fantastic episodes, though.
- Green Acres had so many oddities, but everyone (except Oliver Wendell Douglas) acted like there was nothing unusual. Some examples: Arnold Ziffel, the pig that was treated (and acted like) a person; farmhand Eb, who instantly started acting like he was Oliver's son (and Lisa supported his claims) to the extent that Oliver ended up buying him a convertible and sent him to college; Ralph, the obviously female handyman who showed now feminine qualites and acted like a guy; Lisa's incredibly horrible cooking (which was so bad that she was able to make a gasket for Oliver's car out of her pancake batter); and all of the structural problems in the house, such as the hidden cellar, the phone at the top of the telephone pole, and the closet that opened out into the yard.
Theater
- Cirque Du Soleil shows. Mystere acknowledges this with a gag in which the principal clown mocks an encounter with the Firebird by miming a puff off of a marijuana cigarette.
- One might consider Peter Shaeffer's Equus...
Video Games
- Practically everything by Doug Tenapel is visually trippy (and often conceptually as well — he's the man responsible for Earthworm Jim). Doug is a conservative Christian, and I do remember him saying on his forum once that he resents the way people always associate creativity with drug use.
- Super Mario Bros. You're a plumber who rescues a princess from a fire-breathing turtle-man, you can shoot fire out of your hands, and you turn into a giant by eating mushrooms.
- Hallucinogenic
mushrooms.
- The mushrooms turning you giant is a reference to Alice in Wonderland... which, on second thought, only furthers the drug argument.
- His original debut was in Donkey Kong, in which he had his "normal" (read: small) look. They were getting better at handling graphics or something for Super Mario Bros and added in the "Super" (read: big) Mario.
- The whole "Mario eats Mushrooms!" thing and Nintendo constantly calling them "shrooms" makes me think Mario himself is on it. How else can you explain any of it?
- Shigeru Miyamoto, however, isn't. He's just has the fantastic luck to get to be a big kid and get paid thousands of dollars (well, yen) to do it.
- Rez, although the basic concept behind the game is to invoke synesthesia, a feeling of all one's senses blurring together, which has been reportedly experienced by people who've taken LSD.
- Synesthesia is an actual medical condition, although your description of what it entails is correct (being able to "smell" music or "hear" colors, etc.). But yes, hallucinogens often cause temporary synesthesia.
- In an interesting inversion, some natural synaesthetes who have experimented with hallucinogens have found that the drugs cause their synaesthesia to temporarily vanish.
- Rez is also allegedly inspired by the works of Wassily Kandinsky. Whether he was on drugs...
- Lumines
- Legend Of Mana
- Katamari Damacy and its sequels. Interestingly enough, the intro for the original game contains images of both mushrooms
and herbs of a questionable nature.
- The "herbs" could plausibly be Japanese maple leaves, which totally look like pot leaves
. Not that this makes the intro sequence (or the game in general) any less trippy.
- Just to be clear, the backstory to this game is "God went on a bender and destroyed the cosmos".
- Earth Bound. Specifically Moonside, described in detail in Bizarro Universe.
- Killer7 and No More Heroes.
- And pretty much anything else made by SUDA 51. The man's a walking drug trip. Depending on the game, sometimes it's a bad trip.
- Twisted Metal. Not only is this a trip, it's a pure nightmare trip. Yet David Jaffe claims he doesn't use drugs - he's just really immature.
- Raocow's various Let's Plays of Super Mario World ROM hacks. Most of his more recent ones can be found on Dailymotion here
, though there may be a few videos missing that are probably on Google video.
- Note that Raocow is also straight-edge, meaning that he simply has a bizarrely appealing thought process.
- Raocow does comics, too. The art to a.t.x.s.
does raise some suspicions,...
- Kingdom Hearts (which, among other things, features Alice In Wonderland as a level, turns Mickey Mouse into a badass, and has final levels where it seems physics has given up and gone home).
- It should be noted that Mickey's a badass of exactly this same type in the comic books, too, which are a major industry for Disney everywhere but North America. Check You Tube for cartoons lke Shanghaied, Gallopin' Gaucho, Two-Gun Mickey and others where this portrayal (actually the original one) is seen again.
- Ever wonder where the ideas for the earliest video games came from?
- Gaia Online's story line isn't really meant to be taken seriously. So far it has included a Zombie Apocalypse, a family feud ended in an spectacular way (Everyone involved gets better), a second Zombie Apocalypse with zombie bunnies, a fight between Santa Claus in a Humongous Mecha and the spirit of Halloween, a parody of the original zombie plot with elves, a superhero parody, a Sphere Of Destruction that only killed one person (maybe), an alien invasion involving energy drinks and a No Celebrities Were Harmed version of Tom Cruise, Santa Claus turning into a cow, a Twilight parody mixed with gratuitous Ho Yay, Orphans, the (cyborg) Easter Bunny blowing everyone up, a prom, more elves (This time dark), gratuitous fantasy races completing in bizarre Olympic events, a subplot about an item that makes you grow an Evil Beard, and an MMO in which various inanimate objects (including Imperialistic Lawn Gnomes come to life and attack people. It adds to the charm, but the whole Santa!Cow thing still sort of creeps me out...
- Wait until you find out who's BEHIND the events of the MMO...
- The Zelda games made for the Philips CD-I system featured bizarre distorted animation that seemed almost designed to frighten children. Brace yourselves and watch this example
. There are several reasons the animation is like this. 1.) the traditional Russian school of animation does everything by hand, with pen and paper; so the animators were inexperienced at working with computers and 2.) The anime-style artwork of Zelda isn't exactly compatible with the Eastern European school of art.
- By the way, this scene would be genuinely chilling if every single line wasn't A-class meme-bait Narm. "Nnnooo! Not into the pit! It BURRRRRNS!"
- "Mah boy, this peace is what ALL true warrior strive for!"
- Hectan: "You've killllllllllllllllllllled meeeeeeeeee!"...Zelda: "Good!"
- Psychonauts, especially with Meat Circus.
- "Touch Fuzzy, Get Dizzy" in Yoshi's Island: The bizarre drug-like distortion of both the level map and the background music is quite creepy.
- The Whoa Zone from Super Paper Mario. Am I going up, or down, or sideways, or... Aaargh!!
- Wario Ware Inc.'s mini-games.
- Just the character designs in Chulip look drugged-up.
- You just know Dr. Wily is on something...
- If there wasn't drug use involved in the production of the Aqua Teen Hunger Force golf videogame, someone has to be given a stylish canvas blazer with sleeves that do up at the back. This kicks in when you realize you're playing as a fast-food cup killing giant monkey wrenches with The Power Of Rock on a golf course made entirely from candy, with the level soundtrack consisting of an infinite loop of some rock song using the word "PARTY" far too often, as a result of a meatball putting on a cursed T-shirt. This is only about halfway through the game.
- That sounds a lot like Andrew W.K.'s song that showed up a lot in one episode.
- DTET, a Tetris fan clone, has trippy backgrounds and visuals that must be seen to be believed.
- There is an older, less well-known Tetris-based game entitled The Trippy Block Game — its gimmick is that it's a two player game: one player plays Tetris, while the other controls the erratic swinging and distortion of the playfield.
- Metal Gear Solid? There are probably a million articles on this, go read any of them. And see if you agree.
- Odama was described by the now-defunct Electronic Gaming Monthly as "We can just imagine Yoot Saito, Odama's creator, lounging on a beanbag chair years ago and smoking heroic quantities of marijuana, listening to Close to the Edge by the band Yes, and daydreaming about pinball. What other story explains the inspiration for a game that combines a stone ball the size of a house with an army of expendable soldiers in demolition-friendly feudal Japan?" Yes, that is a verbatim quote. Oh, by the way, you command these troops by yelling commands into a microphone. Seriously.
- Ultima Underworld II featured mushrooms that distorted your vision; potions that made the colour map go crazy; levitating brain creatures which would attack your mind with a similar effect; and a plant which, when eaten before sleeping, would send you to a bizarre dreamworld full of bright colours and strange imagery. Later in the game, the player would arrive in this world consciously.
- Plants Vs Zombies. A tower defense game wherein you plant flowers and various other vegetation and spores to defend you against a horde of extremely creative zombies. They do this by exploding, shooting peas, and shooting walls of elemental peas.
- Bit.Trip... The title couldn't be any more accurate.
- Audio Surf. Were the designers dropping LSD?
- This tendency was lampooned by That Guy With The Glasses contributor Benzaie in a sketch in his review of Magical Drop 3
, showing a game designer snorting cocaine...and still not being able to come up with anything. Then his assistant hands him a cup of coffee and suggests making a Tetris clone.
- The Pa Rappa The Rapper series. Especially the toilet rap.
- Most of the games made by Swedish game developer Cactus
seem to take place in bizarre nightmare worlds, but Mondo Medicals / Mondo Agency really take the cake. There are Let's Play Walkthroughs available.
- World Of Goo. Essentially it's Lemmings (which, by the way, arouses several questions on its own accord). But instead of lemmings there are various living multicoloured lumps of, well, goo with eyes. And they build inticate web-like structures out of themselves so that their more lucky...comrades?...siblings?...could reach a discharge pipe and be sucked in it. And there are flying lumps of goo that can reverse time. And the major goal for the goos is to leave the planet and fly away. And a part of their journey lies in digital enviroment. And all the excessive goos are stored in a special realm for you to build a highest possible tower out of them.
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- Quantum mechanics. This is a theory so unutterably strange that one of the creators of the theory, Niels Bohr, has been quoted saying that "those who are not shocked when they first come across quantum theory cannot possibly have understood it." And yet it is the best description of particle physics currently in existence.
Web Comics
Web Original
- Although alcoholic "grape juice" is a recurring gag in the blog novel Fartago
, and although author Tony Caroselli admits to frequently enjoying red wine, he also adamantly and persistently insists he only once tried to write any of it while any drunker than "very slightly buzzed" and found it so impossible to keep track of the dialogue style of the writing that he had to sleep it off and try again in the morning.
- Survival Of The Fittest: Ted Greynolds
. That is all.
- There was also a profile for Chuck Norris in V1 that was supposedly made on liquor.
- The Let's Play of Sonic the Hedgehog 2: Special Edition
.
- As per the page quote, Neil Cicierega assures viewers that his Animutations were not made on drugs. Just try getting them to believe it, though.
Western Animation
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