aka: Protagonist Centred Morality
"Hooray! The people whose names I know are saved!
It's only natural for a writer to see things from the protagonists' Sympathetic Point Of View
. Due to their frequent role as narrators
and Point of View
characters, a protagonist's perspective tends to make an impression on the work more than any other character's — their thoughts will overlap with narration, their feelings will shape the setting and their priorities will dictate the plot. The way events are treated will be colored by how they relate to the protagonist, the things they love, the people they care about. It's hard to imagine a story told otherwise.
But then sometimes this point of view seems to spread like an inkblot and color the way everything
behaves and thinks. The work lapses into Protagonist-Centered Morality — a state where, on some profound cosmic level, the very fabric of the fictional universe seems to be seeing things from the protagonist's point of view. Every single sympathetic character, the symbolism, the narration, judge characters as worthy of praise, condemnation or indifference depending on how much favor they carry with the "good guys". The protagonist themself can seemingly do no wrong, and even if there's anyone at all who would beg to differ, they're obviously a bad guy
Suppose, for example, there is a character who slaughters innocent villagers
by the thousands
, but once helped save The Hero
simply because he thought she was hot; The Hero
will easily forgive
this guy, buy him a drink, and may even invite him to join the team
. Then there is another character who routinely saves orphans from burning buildings who once used his resultant fame to woo away the protagonist's Love Interest
. They will be an object of scorn
. This alone
would just be portraying a flawed hero — the final piece of the puzzle is that the narrative is in on the myopia. There will be no warning signs that the protagonist is being unfair to the hero who saved all these people. No one calls them out
on how disrespectful they're being to the memory of thousands of the mass-murderer's victims. This will not come back to haunt them. The protagonist is essentially acting as though, in certain respects, it really is All About Them
, and the narrator Author Tract
might well be agreeing
As always, tropes aren't bad
. It can be a very effective tool
: a savvy author will use it beneath several layers of fictional content and context to tempt their viewers to agree that the protagonist has made morally-sound decisions
while allowing subtlety to display that, in reality, they have not. Conversely, by exaggerating the trope, they may tempt viewers to disavow seemingly morally-bankrupt decisions of the protagonist, then allow plot developments to suggest that they acted wisely. Viewers who discover these nuances (more the former than the latter) can learn many important things about the integrity of their own moral compass, and thus benefit.
This may be a generator of both Designated Heroes
and Designated Villains
, if the audience notices that the character is being judged only by a narrow section of their activities. Villains who supposedly "redeem
" themselves in this manner can be Karma Houdinis
, although they don't have to be
. One of the defining traits of a Mary Sue
, especially the Jerk Sue
A specific type of Moral Dissonance
which can lead to Aesop Breakage
. Often enabled by Psychological Projection
. Compare A Million Is a Statistic
, where a million deaths can be excused, but a single death of someone with a name
cannot. Also compare Always Save the Girl
, in which the protagonist puts the well-being of their love interest above everything else. Subtrope of Selective Enforcement
and supertrope for What Measure Is a Mook?
. See also Rule of Empathy
. Contrast What the Hell, Hero?
, where another character does
call the protagonist out on their questionable behavior, Moral Myopia
, where a character tries to invoke this but the narrative disagrees, and Hypocritical Humor
, where a character's double standards are Played for Laughs
Needless to say, as far as the way we humans perceive the world goes, this is more Truth in Television
than we'd care to admit.
NOTE: This is an in-universe trope
. It only applies when the story
ignores bad things done by the protagonists, or good things done by the antagonists. If the story presents a character as a clear hero or villain, but some fans
ignore the facts, that's Misaimed Fandom
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- Big Finish Doctor Who often uses this trope, particularly in one Story Arc that pits the Eighth Doctor against the Monk. Simply put, the Doctor can't force his friends to sacrifice their lives, even if it would save thousands, whereas the Monk would gladly murder one person if it would prevent an entire planet from being destroyed. Of course the Doctor gets the moral victory, albeit at great personal cost. Other stories and arcs explore the idea further, but no matter how much Grey and Grey Morality comes into play, the Doctor typically comes out as a hero because he's, well, the hero.
Anime and Manga
- Subverted in Sailor Moon S. Usagi is the protagonist and she is against killing Hotaru in spite of how she could potentially cause a lot of destruction. But Usagi admits that it's because she can't bring herself to kill an innocent girl. The narrative doesn't take either side on the matter.
- Koga's wolf pack ate Rin's entire village and gleefully killed her when she tried escaping. But after kidnapping Kagome and a little mini arc, suddenly he's been turned into The Rival and no worse. When Koga kidnapped Kagome he was more than willing to let his pack eat Shippo, who is the demon equivalent of a seven year old, until Kagome refused to help him if they did. Worse, his motivation for pursuing Naraku is that one of Naraku's demons slaughtered his entire pack; you know, kind of the exact same thing he did to poor little Rin and her innocent village. He turned into The Atoner much later in the series, though he still maintained a Jerkass Façade.
- The entire narrative seems to very solidly take Kagome's side in the entire love triangle with herself, Inuyasha, and Kikyo, even in ways that don't really make any sense. One recurring theme is that other characters don't seem to want Inuyasha to fix his badly broken relationship with Kikyo in any way whatsoever, as he will be reprimanded for "cheating" on Kagome and hurting her feelings for speaking to or about her or what happened between them, despite the fact that the Big Bad turning them against each other and having Inuyasha sealed to a tree for 50 years would logically be the kind of thing you would understand trying to sort out to some extent. This attitude toward Inuyasha and Kikyo's relationship is present long before he and Kagome officially get together at the very end of the story and even before their relationship is anything remotely serious.
- In addition to this, while Inuyasha was sealed to the tree he was asleep the whole time. To him it seemed like Kikyo turned on him the day before he met Kagome. Kagome herself notices this early on.
- Pegasus in the anime (not in manga, where he's killed right after his duel with Yugi). He kidnaps people, rips their souls from their bodies and puts them in trading cards, and forces them to play a children card's game in an evil dimension that drains their lives... But once he's beaten by the good guys, his Necromantic reasons exposed and stops such villainous activities, he's suddenly considered a good guy, despite all the horrible crimes he committed in the past.
- Marik Ishtar has no problem mind raping, severely injuring, and on screen killing people. However once his split personality is defeated and he gives the Pharaoh a hand understanding his destiny, he's back being counted amongst the good guys. Note that some of the mind raping was not done by his evil split personality, so that's not much of an excuse. In both cases the trope overlaps with Defeat Means Friendship.
- Seto Kaiba originally was just as bad if not worse. In order to gain his Blue-Eyes White Dragon cards, Seto used his wealth and connections to force one of the original owners into bankruptcy and another to commit suicide. He then kidnapped Yugi's grandfather Sugoroku, humiliated him in their duel, and destroyed Sugoroku's Blue Eyes White Dragon card out of pure spite before forcing Yugi's grandfather to suffer a simulation of the Penalty Game Yami Yugi had forced on him. He then forced Yugi and his friends to play his Death-T games which Seto had designed specifically to kill Yugi; employing professional hitmen, a torturer, and even a serial child murderer in the various stages to do so. And when his younger brother Mokuba, perhaps the only person who actually loved Kaiba, failed to defeat Yugi, Seto subjugated him to the same holographic penalty game he had inflicted on Sugoroku. Even though Kaiba didn't exactly escape retribution, playing a penalty game where he has to "rebuild his heart" as Yami Yugi put it hardly seems like a fitting punishment. Neither did he seem to regret his prior actions after regaining his mind or even attempt to make amends for them, even continuing to use the three Blue Eyes that he stole. And all of it is excused by the other characters simply because of his lousy childhood.
- And then there's Mokuba, who after Seto's initial defeat following his attempt to steal Sugoroku's Blue Eyes White Dragon, had no compunctions about using violence and trickery to force Yugi into playing rigged games that had the threat of death should Yugi lose. As with Seto, Mokuba's actions are later excused by the other characters simply because of an abusive childhood.
- On a more general level, antagonists who use manipulative mind-games are called dishonorable, ones who keep secrets are called liars, ones that go on the defensive are called cowards exposing their own weakness, and ones that use cheap tactics are called cheaters. Of course, when main characters do these things they're simply said to be using intelligent strategy.
- Nobody ever considers the Dirty Pair to be evil in their own reality (and their constant claim that "It's not our fault!" is readily believed) despite the fact that they've committed planet-wide genocide multiple times. (A combination of this Trope and Crossing the Line Twice is needed here.)
- Naruto's obsession with redeeming a traitor and would-be mass murderer just because they happened to have a complicated friendship/Worthy Opponent/brotherly relationship with is treated, at worst, as idealistic to a fault.
- Sasuke gets a huge amount of moral leeway with his crimes. Despite becoming a murdering sociopath who would - canonically - sell his teammates down the river for the chance to get "revenge", he is treated by Naruto - and the narrative - as being worthy of redemption, as a lost friend who has strayed down the wrong path but can be brought back to the light by the Power of Friendship. Anyone who disagrees with this and thinks that Sasuke should be severely punished is instantly portrayed as narrow-minded and often hypocritical in the face of Naruto's messianic willingness to forgive. Of course, Naruto does have a bad track record of forgiving mass-murdering villains once they show remorse or friendship (including the Eldritch Abomination that was until recently trying to essentially eat his soul and break out of his body to unleash untold horror on the world of mortals) - a lot like Goku in the above example - so YMMV on whether this is a serial perspective (where Sasuke is just a prominent example).
- Danzo has committed a string of morally questionable actions for (what he views as) the good of the village, but what puts the protagonists at odds with him was giving the Cloud village permission to kill Sasuke, who had recently assisted the same terrorist organization that had antagonized the village throughout Part II (and had just reduced it to a crater) by capturing a jinchuurki like Naruto without any regard for the man's life.
- Obito Uchiha is an exaggeration of this. The guy almost killed Naruto the moment after his birth, indirectly killed his parents, and many other people in his bid for power. Despite all of this Naruto managed to reconcile with the guy and forgive him for his crimes, after realizing how similar Obito used to be to Naruto now; with all the associated compassion, views on friendship, and goal of becoming Hokage that Naruto has. It certainly helped that the man in question honestly felt bad about what he did and tried his best to repent, going so far as to sacrifice his life to save Kakashi and Naruto from Kaguya's attack, with both of them lamenting over Obito's death. The man who did all this ends up becoming a role model that Naruto looks up to and who he claims to be an awesome man and a true kindred spirit, which Obito agrees with and notes with sad irony that Naruto's kind hearted nature is what he should have had instead of following the sinful path he took, encouraging Naruto to succeed where he failed and become Hokage as he dies. However, it should be noted that Naruto did express interest in getting the man in question to surrender and pay for his crimes after the war was over and that it wasn't too late to start over and do the right thing, so at least the concept of a punishment was on the table.
- Fairy Tail:
- The guild has a negative view of the Magic Council because it tries to restrict the guild at best and disband it at worst. This is largely because Fairy Tail openly disregards its laws and has a reputation for mass destruction of property. In addition, the council enforcers are seen as the bad guys at the end of the Nirvana arc because they arrested Hoteye and Jellal, who had assisted the protagonists. The main characters violently object despite the two they're defending are both known and wanted criminals.
- Though, Erza – who is (usually) more level-headed than a lot of the rest – does call them out. She's clearly conflicted, mind you, but she does tell them to just let it go and let them take Jellal.
- And then there's Ultear, who has murdered or otherwise ruined the lives of countless people, including Jellal, but pulled a face turn at the end of the Tenrou Island Arc and was automatically labeled as one of the good guys without anyone calling her out on it.
- Code Geass:
- This trope was explicitly discussed and exploited in-universe by a minor character: Luciano Bradley, the Knight of Ten. Before his climactic fight with Kallen's new Guren SEITEN, he mentions that acts which might normally brand one as a mass murderer will instead be treated as those of a hero if they are done for the sake of one's country. When Kallen presses that Luciano wants to be a hero, he flat out says that he simply enjoys killing, and the good reputation is just a bonus.
- Mostly subverted in the case of the actual protagonist, Lelouch vi Britannia. At the beginning, the story didn't appear to be making too much emphasis on the negative consequences of Lelouch's rebellion and his actions as Zero, outside of the antagonist faction's predictable complaints, but later on several of his unethical acts, mistakes and omissions did start to come back and affect him, his cause and/or his own friends as a result. Furthermore, he denies himself this trope by accepting the extremes he feels must take and not making excuses for his actions, even when a perfectly good explanation that could help save face exists.
- Inverted in the case of the Black Knights, specifically Ohgi plus those who willingly joined in the betrayal of the protagonist at the instigation of Schneizel and Britannian spy/secret love interest Villetta, since most of them either ignored or downplayed the positive actions carried out by Lelouch/Zero on behalf of their cause and the UFN, instead choosing to focus only on the real or perceived offenses their leader had committed. In turn, their own unjust treatment of Lelouch was largely left unaddressed, with the shortsighted at best and self contradictory at worst nature of the whole affair being cast aside.
- Suzaku's more worried about being moralistic in his own actions than caring about the morals of the people he works for, no matter how many innocent civilians die in the process. Part of this is that he may not believe that Britannia can be defeated... but, as they say, evil only wins when good people do nothing.
- Justified in One Piece. The protagonists are pirates, so they don't care if someone does bad things unless It's Personal. If someone makes their friend cry, he's a bad guy (Arlong, Crocodile etc.) but if a bad guy helps them (Buggy, the same Crocodile) they are grateful and no one mentions their evil deeds. On the other hand, they do understand that the marines are the good guys as often as the other way around, but they get hostile treatment because their opposing standpoints. Essentially, Luffy and the Strawhats do not consider themselves heroes, they don't do things for the greater good. Luffy only cares about his friends, it just so happens that most of the time when he's helping a friend or one of his crew members, he's doing the greater good. Humorously Lampshaded when Luffy tells a civilian friend of theirs that he can't trust Aokiji because Aokiji is a Marine. After getting a confused look in response he remembers that Marines are the good guys (in theory, at least).
- Shaman King practically revels in this. Despite Yoh's philosophy about how if you hurt others then they hurt you back, a lot of the people seeking revenge actually have a very valid reasons for doing so (like the children of Camel Munzer whose father was murdered by Chocolove but are considered "evil" for killing him). Tao Ching even handwaves the morally questionable acts his family commits on the excuse that good and evil are meaningless in an ever changing world.
- At the start of the second half of Magic Knight Rayearth, Umi comments on how the events of the end of the first half have left her unable to enjoy playing RPGs anymore. To paraphrase, "I'm the hero, but the antagonist sees me as the bad guy."
- Early on in Pokémon Ash calls out Team Rocket for using a sludge attack that blinds Pikachu as fighting dirty. In only a few more episodes he'd fight a Cubone and find that electricity is ineffective, then tells Pikachu to bite, claw, and blind the Cubone to win and it's treated as thinking on his feet.
- The Gundam pilot protagonists in Gundam Wing are guilty of this (to the point where Sunrise's own marketing even described them as "terrorists" and alluded to the often vague line between such and a "freedom fighter"), but soft-spoken Quatre Winner particularly so. The G-Pilots justify their increasingly brutal tactics against OZ due to its historic role in subjugation of the colonies, but also use OZ's military operations against their friends (such as Relena's Sanc Kingdom) as evidence of OZ's wrongdoing. Enter soft-spoken Quatre, who on a Roaring Rampage of Revenge from the death of his father by a populist uprising, single-handedly destroys at least one of the colonies he'd come to Earth to protect with Wing Zero. This becomes even more exploitable when you consider that the only thing keeping Quatre from committing a horrific slaughter of millions of lives is OZ's own military evacuation of the colony in his path beforehand (as he wasn't concerned with the occupancy of the colony), "merely" reducing it to a war criminal act against civilian livelihood. The colony's destruction doesn't get in the way of Quatre's reconciliation with the other Gundam pilots, as you might expect.
- This is an accusation sometimes levelled at Tintin. In The Red Sea Sharks he supports Emir Ben Kalish Ezab over Bab El Ehr despite that Ben Kalish Ezab apparently tortures people, thinks trials are a waste of time, and was fine with slave trading until Arabair refused his son's stupid request. This could be seen as holding more water than claiming that General Alcazar is "Tintin's pet dictator". The first time he got involved with Alcazar it was accidentally in the course of an investigation of a museum robbery in The Broken Ear. Here Tintin shouted "long live Alcazar!" while drunk, and afterwards was treated as a friend by Alcazar. In Tintin and the Picaros Tintin only became involved in the civil war in San Theodoros because he wanted to save his friends Bianca Castafiore, Thompson and Thomson (wrongfully arrested as part of a plot against Tintin masterminded by Colonel Sponsz). And when he helped Alcazar to win he did it to ensure that the coup would be bloodless. The problem is perhaps that with Hergé's somewhat disillusioned world-view, plus the fact that he and Tintin come from a small country like Belgium, it would simply not be an realistic option for Tintin to oust both sides from power and impose a third option with no visible popular support in Khemed or San Theodoros.
- A main source of tension is the Fabletown Charter's 'General Amnesty' to signatory Fables. Basically, it doesn't matter what horrible things a Fable did before signing, they are all forgiven as a means to allow Fables who have done wrong to live there without fear of reprisal. This is especially useful considering many Fables shared the same stories and did 'not nice' things to each other. This becomes interesting (and commented on several times) because characters like Bigby, Bluebeard, and Frau Totenkinder, who are essentially known mass murderers, are employed, accommodated, and at times respected because they work for the greater good of the small community of Fables. It helps they did give up their mass murdering ways when they came to the new world... mostly. Bluebeard didn't give up the mindset, which cost him his life after murdering an innocent, and Frau Totenkinder has some kind of appalling (by Fable standards) means to keep her magic strong.
- Geppeto is a known and active mass murder who's not okay because he was acting for the "greater good" of millions of inhabitants across many, many worlds. It's been shown that he actually did create a functional and not outrageously repressive dictatorship where people could live peacefully, albeit with high taxes, conscription, and immediate and gory death to all resistance and AWOL soldiers. Pinocchio still loves him dearly, despite putting a geas on him.
- In Neozoic the Protagonist Lillin, an extremely competent dinosaur killer, captured (sorry, "saved") a little girl and smuggled her into fort Monanti in explicit disregard of the Laws- and by this she managed to cause the fall of the city by a horde of dinosaurs and a conquering force, the death of thousands, the foundation of a proto-mind slavery ring, the murder of her sister at the hands of a Dinosaur and the crippling of her Mentor. When everyone finds out about her deeds... she is lauded as the savior of the city because she managed to kill the Leader of the conquering force. Apparently if you retake a city and kill the bad guy all the consequences of your actions are forgiven no matter how horrific they may be.
- Newspaper Comic Minimum Security has a really bad case of this. Either you're with Kranti and killing 99% of humanity is the ONLY way to save the earth or you're doing just a poser who does ineffective things like recycling and peacefully protesting (everyone knows that riots get headlines! Or free trips to secret detention camps), or you're The Man and actively trying to destroy the planet and oppress people.
- Played for laughs by Sam & Max. They may or may not get the job done, and they may or may not use ethically questionable methods to do so, but they're the title characters, so whatever they do is just fine. This carries over into the video games as well.
- Marvel Comics has had several villains over the years reform or claim to reform with their crime conveniently forgotten. Magneto was once a mutant terrorist and the Juggernaut had caused massive destruction and threw around buses full of children in his fights. Yet both were accepted on to the X-Men when they claimed to reform and did some good. Ares, the God of War has tried to start WWIII, destroy civilization, and murders mortals on a whim. The moment he has a son and wants to raise him on Earth Iron Man forgets all of his past crimes and wants to make him an Avenger. Virtually no other character expresses a problem with Iron Man letting on the team a 5,000 year old warlord who has more blood on his hands than every Avenger villain combined... for laughs.
- Wolverine in general, concerning his rivalry with Cyclops. Initially he was a rebel who often got himself into trouble and had to learn to respect Cyclops' leadership, but as fans of his got promoted into being his writers, and his problems with Cyke grew to the point he's shunned him and taken leadership of the 'real' X-Men team. We're supposed to take Wolverine's side in their arguments, given he usually gets the last word in and he is seen as 'the good guy', despite him instigating most of their arguments, and that had they gone with his idea everything would have been screwed. In Schism, when Cyclops argues they stand and fight while he wants to run away to protect the younger students, he starts a physical fight that wastes time until the Sentinel is there, and he continues the fight while also fighting off the Sentinel, before eventually going with Cyclops' plan, which ends up being the right call. He splits the X-Men, and again we're supposed to agree with him. In Avengers vs. X-Men, the spiritual follow-up, the entire incident could have been avoided had he not bad-mouthed Cyclops to Captain America, and later he suggests the idea of killing Hope (you know, the girl who can repopulate his race?!) to end the Phoenix threat, which later turns out to have been a terrible idea that nobody else supported. Despite that, he ends up on the side of angels while Cyclops is arrested for terrorism.
- This hit its peak when, during the Battle of the Atom crossover, Wolverine calls out Cyke for killing Charles Xavier. Never mind that Cyke was possessed by a cosmic force and killed Xavier in self defense, Wolverine kills all the time! Cyclops calls him out on the hypocrisy, pointing out that Cyclops has killed one person, while Wolverine has killed many. How does Wolverine respond? "Nobody I've killed matters." That is a direct quote. Note that at the time, Northstar was on his team, a character who, a few years ago, Wolverine had killed while brainwashed, essentially the same circumstances that Cyclops was under when he killed Xavier. No one points this out.
- This applies equally to Cyclops himself. He has a romantic relationship with a former enemy of the X-Men with a history of murder and Mind Rape. Likewise, the question of whether Magneto, who has caused thousands of deaths over the years is a villain to be stopped or an ally to be worked with is usually based entirely on Scott's personal feelings on the matter. Cyclops and Wolverine are Not So Different on this front, with both of them having a shared habit of adopting absolutist stances that disregard the opinions of virtually everyone else, including their own teammates, whenever they feel that the end result will be for the best.
- Wanted deconstructs this in a rather interesting way. The protagonist Wesley Gibson starts out as an almost comically gutless, whiny loser before he is introduced into the world of supervillains. As part of his Took a Level in Badass act, he instead becomes a sadistic, depraved mass-murdering monster through an inversion of The Hero's Journey-type of story arc, while the reader is forced to side with him due to the Villain Protagonist perspective and Evil Versus Evil morality. In reality Wesley's enemies are barely worse than him, and the comic ends with Wesley becoming one of the five supervillain overlords of the planet, his journey to power, wealth and evil completed. Any readers who at this point were still rooting for the guy as an Anti-Hero badass despite his depravities are soon reminded how bad he is when he turns to the reader, calls them out on supporting him, and then rapes you. Don't forget, he's the villain.
- The way Batman treats Catwoman in comparison to how he deals with every other thief in Gotham. While a lot of people think of Catwoman as primarily being an Anti-Hero, the fact is is that there are many stories where Catwoman is out for herself. But even when she's not helping him, Batman usually doesn't seem too concerned with catching her. And the people Catwoman steals from? Well, apparently they don't matter. We're meant to feel that he does it because he sees the potential for good in her—but it's impossible to not feel that he wouldn't be so lenient with her if he didn't have the hots for her.
- Catwoman's Marvel counterpart The Black Cat also receives this alot. While initially a villain, Black Cat eventually transitioned into being a Karmic Thief, and while Spider-Man was bothered by this aspect of her life, he never bothered to turn her in because of their complicated relationship. This gets turned on it's head and deconstructed in the pages of Superior Spider-Man: Otto Octavius who has none of Peter's history or personal bias towards Black Cat, brutally turns her over to the authorities.
- In the Pokémon fanfic Pedestal, the protagonist breaks the main antagonist, a terrorist, out of jail. The morality of this is discussed surprisingly little in the fic compared to other issues.
- In Christian Humber Reloaded, Vash kills a hunter after a setting off a trap, which breaks on his leg without harming him, and we are apparently supposed to think this is acceptable (the hypocrisy of him doing this despite having set off the trap while hunting is lampshaded in Normalman's webcomic adaptation notes) . His actions get worse from there, including killing a girl and everyone related to her for reporting him to the police, and killing all 6 million people at the Super Bowl to show the cops what it means to fight him. The author treats most of Vash's killings as justified, and when the villains commit comparable or even lesser crimes, they're quickly killed, often by Vash himself.
- In the world of Cori Falls's fanfiction, the quickest way to gauge whether or not someone's a good person is whether or not they agree with the morals of the protagonists. If you don't think Rex Raptor did the right thing or that Jessie and James's actions weren't justifiable, you're clearly evil. What's really ironic about this is that she accused the Pokemon anime canon of doing this with Ash, despite this clearly not being the case.
- The X-Men: Evolution fanfic Tsunami received a lot of complaints because the authors tendency to do this. Namely, everyone depicted positively complains about doing some "hard work", which was a canon event in the series the story was based on (The story basically being a word for word retelling of X-Men Evolution with the addition of an OC), was depicted as just something normal teenagers do at the prospect of hard work. When Scott and Jean made a small comment about how hard this is, who did not complain in the series, they were bashed for being so lazy. This is forgetting that the OC and viewpoint character made a much bigger deal about the hard work two chapters ago. And that's just one example.
- In the Indecisive Deconstruction fanfic known as Pokemon Revolution, the premise is that a lab-escapee Eevee convinces other Pokémon that training is enslavement, then leads a revolution. This is all very well and good until the Pokémon army marches into Pewter City, kills the soldiers who try to stop them... and doesn't stop there, slaughtering what is stated to be several hundred thousand civilians, who may or may not have even had anything to do with training. Consider that in terms of a real-life conflict...
- In general, fanfics that are guilty of Ron the Death Eater or Die for Our Ship tend to do this. While one character is transformed into an unsympathetic caricature of themselves (if they're lucky), the main character and others will shun, mock, and shame them for every action or inaction they perform, while their love rival can treat them like crap, usually acting worse than the other character is shown doing but treated as if they're the symbol of morality.
- The Conversion Bureau sees the ponies forcing humans to either lose their personalities and all other aspects of their selves in the conversion process... or die violently. The ponies are the protagonists. In any other story they'd be utter monsters. Likewise, some stories show the humans as evil simply because they didn't want to convert or they dared to defend themselves against the ponies.
- I'm Here to Help:
- Emerald's stated goal (to stop Crystal Tokyo's creation, to prevent its people from being brainwashed) is noble enough, but the fic gives virtually no evidence of brainwashing (life seems to go on perfectly normally, from what we hear of it), and his main reasons for not liking life in Crystal Tokyo boil down to that he thinks it's boring. The same goes for Pluto, at the end. The only reason she gives for having her timeline erased from existence - sending countless unsuspecting people and her own friends into Nothingness - is because Crystal Tokyo didn't turn out how she liked it. No specific reasons, just that.
- After Serenity came to power, Emerald joined a group of rebels who tried to overthrow her. While their efforts were portrayed as heroic (if doomed to failure), none of them seemed to consider ever trying non-violent means of shaking Serenity's public support, instead opting to launch an incredibly brutal attack on her and her friends. Emerald decries the decreed fate of the rebellion's survivors - banishment from Earth - and hates that the senshi consider it magnanimous, except that sending them to live elsewhere is a pretty light sentence for trying to kill a ruler.
- A later chapter has Jupiter and Mars discussing the last time they fought Emerald. They are portrayed as being unfeeling about attacking two children that Emerald brought as helpers, while it's ignored that Emerald was the one who brought the children along in the first place.
- Supper Smash Bros Mishonh From God is full of this because of Sara's beliefs. Basically, if you're not Christian, heterosexual and conservative (you can't be one or two of those things, you must be all three), you're a villain, even if you show no qualities of being one.
- In Rachel Stevens Revisits da Bungalow, written to rectify a missed gunging on Dick & Dom in da Bungalow, Rachel is constantly berated by the narrative for avoiding said gunging (by calling her 'Diva Stevens' and 'Stroppy Stevens), yet Dick and Dom are never seen as bad guys for basically sabotaging someone's TV show, and humiliating the host. At the end, even Rachel succumbs to the present morality by yelling she was a 'bad sport' for evading the previous gunging.
Films — Animated
- This trope is in full action in Vuk The Little Fox. Since the story focuses on Vuk, he is treated as a good guy, despite killing a lot of (apparently sentient) animals for food, and systematically destroying a man's property. At the same time, the hunter is treated as the Big Bad, even though he just kills foxes to protect his livestock.
- Played for Laughs in The LEGO Movie. Batman reveals he stole the hyperdrive of the passing ship the Millennium Falcon so that the group could use it for their own ship. The very next scene shows the now-hyperdrive-less starship being eaten alive by a space slug.
- Mirage getting off scott free after her Heel-Face Turn in The Incredibles is a glaring case of this, when you consider she was directly responsible for locating every single one of the murdered Supers and willingly took them to the island to serve as cannon fodder for the Omnidroid 9000. Even the official Disney wiki entry about her points this out.
Films — Live-Action
- John Q. has this in spades. The protagonist's son needs a heart transplant but can't afford it. Clearly, the big bad insurance agent is evil for not paying for his son's surgery. So John holds an entire hospital emergency room hostage, threatens to kill people if his son doesn't get a heart, and causes terror. However, there are only so many hearts available for transplant in the world. By blackmailing others to get his son a heart, he stole it from someone else, effectively killing that person. Then his son had his heart transplanted last minute by a group unprepared for the surgery, which lowered the odds of the transplant working. So John gave his son a lower chance of success of surviving the surgery than the person he stole the heart from. Not to mention the whole holding people hostage, disrupting an emergency room, which nearly resulted in one person dying, due to lack of proper treatment (he gets convicted of that at the end, but he's still treated as right).
- Jonas from Twister. He's the bad guy because he 'stole' the idea for Dorothy (even though it obviously wasn't patented and he helped invent it in the first place), got funding for his research, and was 'competing' with the heroes to launch his invention first. But the movie sets him up as evil because he's a jerk to the hero despite the fact that if he succeeded, his data could also save people from tornadoes. Furthermore, Bill walks up and punches Jonas for no reason while Jonas is talking with reporters. And Jonas' "jerk-ness" is him snidely saying, "I really like your weather reports", sarcastically complimenting Bill on the job that Bill voluntarily quit tornado chasing to take!
- The biographical film Michael Collins depicts the morality of the IRA's terrorist/guerrilla war against the UK largely in terms of what side Collins is on. When Collins is for revolution, revolution is the answer; when Collins decides that the revolution is over and turns his forces against those who want to keep the war going, that's that. The movie makes only half-hearted attempts at ambiguity, clearly basing itself on the audience siding with Collins.
- Jumper is based on the audience siding with its Anti-Hero, who supports himself with crime enabled by his superpowers. We side with him because the organization who hunts down people with his powers are Knight Templars and will kill people who try to help him. The opening scenes have the protagonist ignoring a news story about hundreds of people whose lives are in danger due to a flood so that he can rob a bank and have lunch on top of the sphinx. Note that this is before he knew people wanted to kill him. Neither he, nor the hundreds of other teleporters in the world have ever tried to use their powers for good.
- Averted somewhat in First Blood. What starts as a black and white story of an over zealous sheriff abusing a vagrant 'Nam vet who just wanted to be left alone evolves into a story of Graying Morality due to Rambo and Teasle having just the right amount of Ax-Crazy and Jerkass Has a Point to their respective characters.
- In The Lost World: Jurassic Park, Sarah and Nick sabotage some mercenaries hired by the company who owns the dinosaurs. Granted, the team of mercenaries sent to capture the dinosaurs weren't using kid gloves, but the sabotage that the two of them did is directly or indirectly responsible for every human death in the film. Even after the mercenaries save the two of them from death, Nick uses it as an opportunity to sabotage Roland's gun. Apparently, killing a dinosaur is wrong even if it is rampaging through your camp, killing your men. And it wasn't as if nature was at stake. The dinosaurs were created in a lab and introduced in a time period that was unsuitable for them. The fact that they exist at all could be disastrous to the ecosystem. This was the entire point of the first movie and pounded home more in the Lost World book yet somehow, the filmmakers forgot all about that.
- 300 is full of this, mostly due to the Unreliable Narrator. The Spartans are touted as a just and free society, even though they're shown in the movie to hurl imperfect babies off cliffs, kill messengers, and toss boys into the wilderness as a rite of passage. The film also conveniently leaves out most of the really bad stuff the real Spartans did, like institutional slavery.
- In Tyler Perry's movie Daddy's Little Girls, the protagonist Monty's ex-wife is dating a drug dealer and taken the kids to live with her. After the custody hearing, Monty purposely hits his ex-wife and her boyfriend Joseph's car and then opens the door and beats up a dizzy and confused Joseph. At Joseph's trial, the entire neighborhood willingly testifies against him for the drug charges (after years of silence), but keeps their mouth shut when Monty is accused of assaulting him.
- At the end of Finding Forrester, William Forrester stands up for his protege Jamal against the bitter English teacher that had a grudge against him. But the film seems to forget the fact that the reason that Professor Crawford was bitter was because Forrester had fraudulently scuttled the man's dreams 20 years earlier by falsely alluding to a non-existent second book, just to encourage publishers not to work with him. Also, Crawford's negative attention on Jamal is because Jamal actually did plagiarize the work that he's being accused of plagiarizing, and Forrester had specifically told Jamal not to use any of his work. Crawford may be a jerk, but he's justified in his actions.
- In On Deadly Ground an oil executive pressures his crews to find oil before the exploration permit expires, even if it means harming the environment or ignoring safety regulations. When protestors and employees complain, he hires some paramilitaries to harass troublemakers. When the paramilitaries kill an employee, clearly they are villains. But does this justify destroying the exploration site and presumably causing multiple deaths and millions of dollars in property and environmental damage? Apparently it does, for everyone, including the press, who give Steven Seagal a standing ovation.
- The Absent-Minded Professor has the main protagonist stalking his jilted ex-fiancee who currently wants nothing to do with him and also terrorizing the man that she's now dating; a character mind you that hasn't really done anything that bad except currently be the main character's romantic rival. Also, basketball players putting flubber in their shoes to make them jump extra high and win the game? Since the audience is on their side, it's a Crowning Moment of Awesome. However, if the Opposing Sports Team did it, it would surely be seen as blatant cheating.
- Dean Walcott in Patch Adams is unambiguously presented as the film's villain because he tries to block the title character's graduation from medical school. This despite the fact that Patch frequently behaves immaturely in class, he impersonates a third-year medical student so he can get in to see hospital patients, he sneaks into patients' rooms late at night to bombard them with balloons, he advocates a "laughter cures everything" approach to medicine that he never even attempts to prove with science, he practices medicine out of his house without a license, he steals supplies from a hospital, he gets some of the highest grades in school even though no one ever sees him studying (making it perfectly logical to suspect him of cheating), and his methods directly cause the murder of another med student. But of course, since he's the protagonist, anyone who doesn't think he would make a good doctor must be evil. The real Patch Adams was quite upset about this portrayal of his life, which was highly inaccurate. The Nostalgia Critic had a field day with this.
- Jay-Jay Manners in High-School USA is portrayed as the everyman good guy while the preppy Beau Middleton gets the bad guy treatment. Jay-Jay isn't entirely innocent. He crashes Beau's party and hits on Beau's girlfriend constantly, even kissing her in public, and in the sight of Beau, yet Jay-Jay is still supposed to be the good guy.
- In Back to School, when the opposing college's diving team's divers are diving, Derek Lutz (played by Robert Downey, Jr.), friend of the protagonist uses a loud horn and a mirror to distract and disrupt the dives of the other team despite the other team not even having anything to do with the plot. They hadn't been established as being evil and hadn't done anything against the protagonist other than being on a different team and the outcome of the dive meet had nothing to do with the plot (the Jerk Jock character is on the protagonist's team!). This was played for laughs, with Melon's bodyguard telling Derek, "You're all right, kid," but the scene makes him look like a jerk and really should have gotten him kicked out of the stands.
- The Fast and the Furious:
- The first film has Dom's team stealing parts from truckers (endangering their victims via high-speed carjacking) to fund their street racing. The film plays this as understandable and justified.
- The fourth film has the team rob another truck, and almost kill the driver (though not intentionally). The thing given focus is how Dom and Letty want to settle down and get away from this dangerous life.
- The Ledge suffers greatly from this: the hero, Gavin, is an atheist who decides to seduce Shana, the wife of the antagonist Joe, who is a devout Christian. But up until that point, the only really bad thing Joe had done was feeling sorry for Gavin's "empty life without God" as well as feeling sorry for his gay roommate. Moreover, Gavin is also shown (and even admits to) using emotional manipulation on her in order to make her fall for him, and the whole justification Gavin uses for his actions is that he believes that Shana is too good for her deeply religious husband and thus Gavin appoints himself as her "savior" from an oppressive life.
- Ever After has this with the gypsies, a band of highwaymen who are introduced when they find Prince Henry lost on the road and proceed to beat and attempt to rob him. When their leader chides Danielle by telling her that she can leave in peace and take with her whatever she can carry, he's so amused by her ability to carry Henry himself on her back that he lets them stay in their camp for the night. The fact that they're still criminals who attacked the crown prince and have been making a living by attacking travelers on the road is quickly forgotten, and Henry later invites them to a masquerade ball. To rub elbows with some of the same people they've been mugging.
- In lots of movies with a plot in which a character is applying for a job the narrative will be framed so we support this character and want them to get the job, which inevitably means we want the other applicants NOT to get the job. So if the character gets the job we will cheer for them, and not be sad for all the other applicants who got rejected, and if a different applicant gets the job the narrative will make it seem sad for the main character. This kind of centered-morality was spoofed in a scene of (500) Days of Summer.
- Maleficent unblinkingly kills dozens if not hundreds of men during her reign of terror. Most of them were trying to kill her, sure, but they were Just Following Orders from their own tyrant king. A lot of that could have been avoided if she hadn't cursed Aurora in the first place. Still, all of that gets to be completely ignored at the end when she makes her Heel-Face Turn and gets to live Happily Ever After with Aurora's praise and respect. She also curses the newborn Aurora to fall into a coma on her sixteenth birthday, solely because she wanted to get revenge on Aurora's father. See the spoiler above for how the film glosses over this.
- In Let the Right One In we're clearly meant to root for Eli and Oskar, despite the fact that the former spends the movie murdering perfectly innocent people, and the latter is perfectly okay with her doing so because she's nice to him.
- Hanna, in The Reader, was personally responsible for killing hundreds of people, not to mention the fact that she sexually abused and manipulated a teenage boy. But we are supposed to sympathize with her simply because she's illiterate. Because, you know, you have to be literate to know that killing people is wrong.
- In Accepted, we’re supposed to see Dean Van Horne as a tyrant and a raging conservative who wants to stop Bartleby and his friends from starting their own college. He’s kind of a jerk, but he is absolutely right when he points out said college isn’t a college at all, as it lacks the basics: teachers, a curriculum, a library and so forth. Also, Bartleby started said “college” simply because he didn’t have the guts to tell his parents that he hadn’t been accepted into a real college. But we’re supposed to side with him and be moved by his passionate speech at the end of the movie.
- The Neo-Luddite terrorist group RIFT from Transcendence are supposedly out to save mankind from losing its humanity from a super advanced-AI. But doing so involves murdering innocent people, kidnapping, and uploading a virus into the world wide web that shuts down the entire internet and sends humanity back to a pr-industrial revolution state of living.
- The Scarlet Pimpernel: In the 1982 Anthony Andrews version, Percy purposefully makes Marguerite's married life with him a living hell; he justifies this by his understandable belief that she murdered the Marquis de St. Cyr and his family, but since the Revolution there's this new thing called divorce, hey? Worse, once he's learned of Marguerite's innocence and reconciled with her, Percy still arranges his own fake execution to humiliate Chauvelin, which predictably devastates Marguerite. It would not have been surprising if she had committed suicide, turning his practical joke into a tragedy. Possibly justified by the Rule of Funny.
- The Will Smith movie Focus has con-artist protagonists who regularly steal from, cheat and con completely innocent people, and never once in the movie is the ethics behind what they do raised, nor do any of the characters ever once show any signs of guilt at stealing valuables from innocent people.
- The Baby-Sitters Club:
- In book #12, the girls get bitchy over Claudia spending time with a new friend and go as far as to short-sheet her bed, mess with her belongings, and leave her a series of nasty notes. But in the end, Claudia is the one who owes them an apology for "being a bad friend."
- The girls also viciously shun Mary Anne in another story after she commits the mortal sin of... getting a stylish new haircut. Everything's back to hunky dory by the end of the book.
- In one book, the girls are angry and hurt when Mrs. Newton decides to hire an older sitter for her new baby as she feels that a 13-year-old, no matter how experienced, may not be able to cope with a newborn. The girls act like it's irrational and unfair, and the girls do eventually prove that several of those sitters are Very Bad, although Mrs. Newton says she found one she liked and she'll continue to call him on his own. The girls do eventually get to sit for Lucy Newton, but not until they're in eighth grade.
- In the novel The Red Blazer Girls, a character who stalks the protagonists and is apparently in competition with them is described by one as "Pure evil!", although he actually turns out to be on their side, and they forgive him.
- Deconstructed in Lazarillo De Tormes, when the title character (who has had a long string of abusive employers) works for a corrupt pardoner who treats him very well. Lazarillo knows, deep down, that the man is scum, but he's willing to overlook it because he's sharing in the benefits. This episode is one of the darkest parts of the novel's satire.
- The heroes of Left Behind are often shown generally acting like unmitigated jackasses to anyone they meet, but those who insult or do them the slightest harm are quite literally condemned to Hell for it.
- In this blog post, Fred "Slacktivist" Clark notes that the heroes seem more worried about the traffic jam they're stuck in (hindering them from reaching their comrades) than the news of the outbreak of World War III which preceded the traffic jam announcement.
- Perhaps the neatest example comes early in Book 3. Chloe and Buck are in Chicago after the start of World War 3. Their New York home has been destroyed and Chicago itself may be under attack. Loretta, an old woman who belonged to their church, offers to put them up in her house and the two (speaking outside of Loretta's presence) agree to accept this. Not even a page later, during the same conversation, they point out that if it came down to it, the church bomb shelter is too small for Loretta, with the implication that they would leave her to die in the fire.
- A minor character actually calls them out on it at one point. An acquaintance of the minor character has been pretending to be on the side of the protagonists, but is actually running a kind of con game. They pull a reverse con on him and cheat him, and the minor character says something along the lines of "So, yeah, I don't think I can be your friend any more. Yes, he was trying to cheat you too, but if you're serious about following the teachings of Christ, you're supposed to be better than him."
- If there's anything that makes other Christians dislike the books, it's the fact that God is just as much prone to this trope as the human characters, because humans are fallible and so can be forgiven for screwing up. God has no excuse. When Nicole Carpathia, the Anti-Christ and servant of Satan mass murders people, it's proof of how evil he is. When God unleashes the deadly plagues and natural disasters that actually kill MORE people than Carpathia does, however, it's a perfectly fine part of the divine plan of an all-loving God. Early in the book, Chloe calls God out on this, saying that no good God would cause the Rapture, and all the disastrous accidents that resulted from the various suddenly unmanned vehicles and infrastructure. She never gets a justification past 'God has his reasons', and the issue is never brought up again, even by the villains.
- Making deals with the devil is always considered a pretty bad idea, even when you're not a Christian. But that doesn't stop both Rayford and Buck from working for Carpathia after being offered very impressive salaries and work environments. No, they don't accept these offers so that they can get closer to Carpathia in order to assassinate or spy on him. They just take the jobs, because they're good jobs. When Hattie takes a job with Carpathia, not knowing that he's the Anti-Christ, they try to convince her to quit without trying to prove whom Carpathia is. That she doesn't accept that the man who brought about world peace is evil, simply on Rays word, and that she won't quit her incredibly good job as that mans personal assistant, is proof that she's deserving of the fires of Hell.
- Star Wars Expanded Universe:
- In the Legacy of the Force, when Jacen Solo turns to the dark side, he doesn't rack up nearly as much bad karma as Vader did — among other reasons, he didn't have nearly as long to do it in. But the second he kills Mara Jade-Skywalker, he's irredeemable. Luke can apparently forgive the deaths of hundreds of strangers -- at least a round dozen of which were innocent children — if his life gets saved at the end of it. But he can't forgive the murder of his wife. And we the readers weren't supposed to, either.
- Luke forgiving Vader (and him getting to be a Force Ghost along with the not-evil Obi-Wan and Yoda) is something of a sore spot with a lot of writers. They note the rest of the galaxy still views Vader as nothing more than a mass-murdering monster, while Leia (who if you remember was tortured by Vader when she was nineteen) is portrayed as hating Vader for years afterwards and furious at Luke that he was so presumptuous as to forgive Vader on behalf of his millions of victims. Yet other writers still present this as unnecessarily holding onto hatred and not, you know, a reasonable reaction to the top enforcer of a totalitarian dictatorship. Supposedly the metaphysics of the Force are at play; a regular person can afford to hate, but a Force sensitive that indulges in hatred, no matter how justified, will fall to the dark side. Leia eventually makes peace with the idea that there was an Anakin Skywalker before there was a Vader.
- One of the biggest complaints against the Twilight series is how pretty much everyone who disagrees with Bella is instantly demonized to some extent while Bella suffers no repercussions for treating others like crap.
- Charlie opposed Bella and Edward's relationship because, well, if your only daughter suddenly came home one day and tells you she wants to marry a guy who had left her heartbroken and nearly suicidal once before, you'd be worried. Her mother just wants her to give more thought about going to college before settling down. Her friends from her school who came around pretty much every day while she had her Heroic BSOD and seemed to genuinely care for her well-being? She just thought they were getting annoying; so did the author.
- Many of Edward's and Jacob's actions were typical of an abusive relationship, but they were portrayed as being perfectly okay and even romantic. Edward stalks her and watches her sleep? It just shows how much he loves her! He breaks her car and has his sister kidnap her to keep her from visiting another boy? It just shows how much he cares about her! Jacob forcibly kisses Bella and insists that she wanted him to but just won't admit it? Again, it just shows how much he loves her!
- The "good" vampires appear not to have thought of using their immeasurable powers to save people's lives; they're more content to repeat high school for the umpteenth time and play baseball, and seem to be happy with their brethren slaughtering innocent people as long as they leave Bella alone. And Bella herself doesn't lift a finger to help anyone even when she knows they're as good as vampire food. This is shown clearly in Eclipse, where an army of uncontrollable newborn vampires is only four hours away from them destroying Seattle, but none of the Cullens or Bella even consider trying to stop them until they start to think they might be there for them. Toward the beginning, they explicitly pass it off as Somebody Else's Problem.
- Bella has a rather telling moment in Eclipse when the Cullens know a battle with a large group of hostile vampires is coming, and Bella finds out that vampires become a little stronger if they feed on human blood versus the Cullens' normal diet of animal blood. She realizes she's perfectly okay with condemning someone to death if it slightly improves the odds of her boyfriend surviving the battle. And by Breaking Dawn, the Cullens have agreed that they need backup if the Volturi are coming to get their murder on, so they call in every favor they have with the other vampires. Now, the Cullens have sworn to feed only on the blood of animals, these vampires have not, and yet the Cullens are happy to lend them their car to go hunting for humans (and vampires in the setting inevitably kill any human they feed on, unless they're turned) - just as long as Bella doesn't get hurt.
- E. E. Smith's Lensman series exemplifies this. The actions of various protagonists are consistently applauded - including one man judge/jury/execution, destruction of entire planets/solar systems/civilizations, with or without noncombatants, various nasty means of underhanded (or overhanded) warfare, torture, mind rape, etc. It's stated in-story that only paragons of Incorruptible Pure Pureness can ever be Lensmen in the first place (and that the Arisians are actively weeding out those who fall short just before they actually get Lenses), but we do have to kind of take the author's word for it.
- This trope is examined in The Last Hero by Vetinari who points out that most "heroic" acts would have anyone else hanged for wanton death and destruction, but since they are committed by a "hero" they are considered acceptable.
- See also Susan's revised retelling of "Jack and the Beanstalk" in Hogfather.
- Lampshaded in Night Watch, in which young Sam points out to Vimes that in certain circumstances, Vimes is prepared to do things which are illegal or immoral (like knocking people unconscious before they can hit him). Vimes evades giving an explanation, and privately admits to himself that his main justification is "It's Me Doing It" - and that this is a pretty poor justification, especially because it's the one the people on the other side are using too (and he feels he could do worse if he let himself, but he doesn't).
- Also downplayed in that he's using it about the Elite Mooks of a corrupt, oppressive king, so there is some justification.
- The House of Night series is seen and judged through Zoey's sense of Morality. Even in Tempted and Burned (when different POVS and Loads and Loads of Characters are introduced) and someone has different opinion than that of Zoey's having, they're considered to be having an OOC moment at best or they're automatically considered to be a horrible bitch and/or in cahoots with the Big Bad.
- Kalona, pretty much the cause for every single bad thing that's ever happened in the series, gets a Fallen Hero backstory and two chapters from his POV. Zoey thought it possible he could be redeemed. Why? Because in a past life Zoey was in love with him.
- The majority of characters consider Loren Blake to be idealized because he was young good-looking substitute professor and because Zoey was in love with him and Death Equals Redemption. He was also a sexual predator and a Manipulative Bastard. On top of that, he decided to toy with the feelings of the Big Bad... A serious case of Too Dumb to Live and Hoist by His Own Petard. He knew what the Big Bad wanted and why she wanted him to do it and went along with her plans with no remorse.
- When Venus is introduced she has just recently regained her humanity but she is deemed a horrible bitch and possibly evil in the first chapter of Hunted, despite how Venus's personality is very close to that of Aphrodite. Why? Because she DARED to flirt with Erik in front of Zoey and hooked up with him when Zoey and Erik broke up. Zoey was telling herself that it was wrong to behave and think the way she did, didn't stop it anyway.
- Zoey and her friends all call Aphrodite a "ho" for dating two guys, even though she began going out with the second one only sometime after the first one and is genuinely serious about him. Zoey, meanwhile, has dated/flirted with no less than four guys, lost her virginity to her teacher Loren while she was dating Erik and letting Heath continually lure her into feasting on his blood, and she repeatedly calls herself out for being unable to settle on one guy. And yet when Erik calls her out on this in a later book, he's dismissed as just a jealous jerk by all her friends and we're clearly meant to disagree with her being a ho even when she keeps on saying that she is and is right.
- Raven Mockers are mindless creatures of Darkness and they should all be wiped out. Everybody agrees with the Kill 'em All attitude and, as of Burned, around twenty Raven Mockers have been killed. Even the idea of giving them a burial is seen as strange. The only exception is Stevie Rae and when she raises valid points of What Measure Is a Non-Human? and If You Kill Him, You Will Be Just Like Him not only does every character tell her she's wrong but she is suspected of secretly turning over to The Dark Side.
- How is it okay for the Red Fledglings that haven't "Chosen" yet to be running around killing people? Even after Stevie Rae gives them multiple chances to choose, and they try to kill her and her friends multiple times, she ends up just chasing them away/exiling them... as if wherever they end up, they'll be any less evil and bloodthirsty? Maybe it's just a weakness moment or something, but the fact that they're Red Fledglings and thus "her people" seems to be what keeps her from stopping them from murdering any more innocents.
- The authors almost poke fun at this in Chapter 6 of Revealed, when Kalona calls Zoey out for making a tactless comment concerning personal morality and Stark jumps to her defense, telling Kalona that he "just [doesn't] get her." Zoey is then shown to get all worked up and zone out when she realises that (gasp!) Kalona's assessment might be right.
- The Belgariad:
- Barak raped his wife in the backstory, but nobody cares (except Barak himself, and then only in a 'kinda regrets the circumstances' way), because he's a good guy. Zakath, once he joins the heroes, is considered to be a trustworthy friend, regardless of how he attempted to commit genocide and nearly did. Sadi dealt drugs like candy, including powerful hallucinogens and poisons, Silk nearly wiped out an entire family for the actions of a few, and Polgara and Belgarath are much worse. The attitude seems to be 'If they're not on our side, they're horrible people who do horrible things. If they are on our side, they're good people who just made some bad choices.' Yeah, try telling that to the thousands of dead Murgos.
- Lampshaded many times when each person (especially Silk) admits to having various vices and refusing to accept it as being the same as the vices of others. Belgarath even refuses to classify it as Good vs. Evil and instead prefers to call it "them versus us."
- Belgarath firmly believes that Utopia Justifies the Means, and has done everything he has done, including forcing people into loveless, dysfunctional marriages to ensure the birth of important figures, drugging up the Queen of the Dryads and forcing her people into a treaty with Tolnedra, a number of assassinations and a ten-year piss-up, to assure the victory of the Light.
- In The Elenium, the Sparhawk's party slaughters enemies by dozens. They even kill in cold blood an unsympathetic teenage bastard who was unarmed and harmless. They only lose a single member by the end, killed in a fair fight while invading the enemy's HQ. Reaction of the party? They take this justified battle killing as a vile murder and the murderer is slowly and violently tortured to death. And the lost party member is mourned aloud as if it was very unusual for warriors to be killed in battle. We'll hear no remorse from Sparhawk for his murders.
- Atlas Shrugged features this very prominently in its final chapters, ultimately culminating in Ragnar Danneskjold shooting at a security guard in cold blood, even as the narrative says the guards are too paralyzed with indecision to be any threat or obstacle, as the heroes rescue John Galt from being tortured to death. One can argue that the questionable behavior up until that point was just washing one's hands clean of a broken system, but actively and intentionally murdering someone as a way of announcing an entrance can't be excused that easily.
- The Fountainhead: Everyone who's poor deserves it except of course Henry Cameron, whose impoverished circumstances are because of eeeevil classical architecture. Then there's Howard Roark, the hero, who engages in sex that has questionable consent and domestic terrorism, yet it's treated as a good thing when despite spending eight pages in a Motive Rant about how and why he did the latter, he's found not guilty anyway.
- Sisterhood Series by Fern Michaels: Oh, yeah! This series cheerfully marches into this territory, particularly by the book Free Fall. If you don't support the Vigilantes, then you're a Jerkass. The Vigilantes broke laws to a million pieces, in their quest for Revenge against every Karma Houdini who wronged them. They also did things like give three rapists the John Wayne Bobbit treatment, broke every bone in a wife-beater's body, and skinned alive a diplomat's son who used Diplomatic Impunity. Now, Jack Emery did talk his girlfriend Nikki Quinn about the Vigilante's methods from time to time.
- Anne McCaffrey's protagonists routinely get away with being huge jerks to other characters. It's often portrayed as a flaw in a generalized way (Killashandra and Lessa of Dragonriders of Pern) are both understood to be overly short-tempered, for instance) but in most specific instances the narrative rather makes it clear that "that (Designated) Jerk Ass had it coming." In Crystal Line Killashandra humiliates a scientist for more than a page for the sole offense of being pedantic and giving a new substance a different name than she gave it, and it's Played for Laughs, and viciously justified a few pages later with descriptions of how space-sick the scientist and his partner got all over the ship that brought them in.
- Lois McMaster Bujold:
- At the end of Vorkosigan Saga: A Civil Campaign the protagonists work together to prevent the arrest of a man who has (albeit naively) swindled investors out of large amounts of money. Why? Oh, he's their friend, and they need his scientific brilliance to make money for themselves. And the situation is decided on the basis that Miles's cook would lose money if the arrest goes forward.
- This trope is deconstructed quite openly by Emperor Gregor in Captain Vorpatril's Alliance, where Gregor somewhat bitterly observes that his actions affect millions of people, and that therefore yes, he does trade in human lives on a daily basis. However, he makes it abundantly clear that he is unhappy with this burden and that he will make compromises that he thinks will benefit his people despite having near-absolute power with which to impose his will as he sees fit. He is also the one holding Miles' leash (personally in the later books, rather than through Simon as in earlier books) and he expects a degree of restraint even though Miles as an Imperial Auditor could be the ultimate Cowboy Cop if allowed to do so. Miles himself becomes noticeably more self-restrained once he becomes an Auditor, and realizes how even the most trivial of his actions could directly impact the Imperium much more than in the days when he was a covert operative.
- Hush, Hush has this. For example, the male love interest starts out intending to kill the female love interest, but it all comes out okay, because he's the male love interest. Someone else tries to kill the female love interest...well, she deserves to have her wings ripped off! Also notable in that something that would ordinarily have been good—warning a girl to try her best to stay away from a guy who was stalking her—gets twisted into a selfish act because the person who did it wasn't supposed to be sympathetic.
- Toward the end of The Host, there is a very visible division between the humans who like Wanderer, and those who don't. Those who don't are portrayed as bitter and selfish, while those that do are, well, the heroes. There are a few who don't care much about her either way, but they are not among the more important characters. Somewhat justified in that Wanda had to earn the trust of everyone who likes her, but it's still implied that the only reason people might not like her is because they are horrible people. Bear in mind that the story is written from a first-person perspective. It's no more unusual for Wanda to think better of people who are nice to her than it is for anybody else, especially given the cultural mold of the souls. And Wanda does concede that the humans who hate her have justifiable cause; she just gets tired of it after a while. Again, who doesn't get worn down by constant hostility, regardless of justification?
- Parodied in Love and Freindship, the satirical novel Jane Austen wrote as a teenager, in which the narrator Laura excuses any crimes whatsoever committed by herself, her husband Edward, and their friends Augustus and Sophia, but is merciless toward anyone who does not cater to their whims.
- In Andre Norton's Forerunner Foray, Ziantha thinks taking over the bodies of the dead is a touch of Necromancy. Having done so, she and the other psychic with her exploit the dead's past and the loyalties of the innocent guardsmen without regard to the effect they have on the ancient civilization — and all for a purpose of Grave Robbing. It is taken for granted that the dead man's widow is malicious because of her hatred for him, though the book reveals nothing of their relations before. (True, the other psychic is doing it to discover more about the past, not for financial reasons. Still.) Then when they come back to their own time, he is at pains to keep her from being arrested for her crimes, not because she was exploited by the mastermind because of her youth and poverty, but because she's really useful.
- In Tamora Pierce's Protector of the Small, a major event in Squire involves the fact that nobles are able to mistreat commoners at will and at worst must pay a fine if convicted, something that Kel protests vehemently. She also agrees to give up her own noble right to duel the noble offender when the King agrees to change the law since that would undercut the point that the law must apply to all. But in Lady Knight, Neal lays a spell on a man, cites his being a Queenscove when reminded it's illegal, and Kel unambiguously approves of this act. Yes, the man was an abusive Jerk Ass and there wasn't much chance of local justice, but Kel should have at least thought about the fact that Neal was flagrantly taking advantage of his birth to do this.
- In The Hobbit, Beorn catches a goblin and a warg in the forest and questions them about their goal. After they answer, Beorn beheads the goblin and flays the warg. Neither the heroes nor the narrative questions Beorn's action because the latter is a good guy and the goblins and wargs are Always Chaotic Evil. Interestingly the movie adaptation The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug has a similar scene where Elvenking Thranduil kills a captured orc after interrogation, but this time Legolas does call out his dad for it.
- There is particularly blatant example in The Scarlet Letter. The antagonist Chillingworth does objectively good things: he gains great medical knowledge from the Indians at considerable personal risk and uses it for the benefit of the community. When Chillingworth comes home to see his wife (and indirectly himself) publicly shamed, he comforts Hester, medicates her and her daughter and mostly blames himself for his wife's infidelity. He helps Dimmesdale medically and emotionally by correctly insisting that Dimmesdale will never fully recover until he relieves himself of whatever is weighing down his heart. Despite these good acts, the Puritans of Boston seem ungrateful for having a man who has put so much effort into becoming a great doctor for them and seem to interpret everything he does in the worst possible light. Everyone, including the narrator and Chillingworth himself, assumes that he is doing everything for the very worst of reasons. Just to hammer in his badness the narrator makes Chillingworth ugly, and uglier as the story goes on. Protagonist Dimmesdale on the other hand does objectively bad things by ruining Hester's life and making Pearl grow up a poor pariah. He is extremely hypocritical in participating in the public shaming of Hester, even pretending to try to make her give away the name of her lover. He neither has the courage to confess and face the consequences, nor to take his secret to the grave. Choosing the most cowardly possible solution he waits until he only has seconds left to live to confess. Yet he obviously has the sympathy of the narrator, Hester and all of Boston.
- Simultaneously averted and played straight with Anita Blake. Anita does start sliding down the slippery slope of morality, noting how she's less affected by things as the series goes on, and can do things that morally she would have balked at earlier. However, everything she does is portrayed as the right and correct decision at the time, regardless of the consequences (and some of the things she's done would result in her perfectly legal summary execution.)
- A lot of the behavior displayed by Nancy Drew is downright meddlesome, snoopy, and intrusive, all of which is portrayed as perfectly okay as she's a detective and the people she's displaying this behavior towards are jerks and/or suspects in her case. When anyone else acts like this, they are rightfully called out on their rudeness, to the point where she demands clarification on information that she learned while eavesdropping on a man's private conversation, and he's the one made to be the bad guy for screaming at her to mind her own business. Multiple times throughout the Files series however, Nancy is blasted for this by everyone - Bess, George, Ned, even her own father - and her conduct is bad enough to cause a rift in her relationships with these people.
- The second book of the The Cobra Trilogy has the titular Cobra super-soldiers agree to consider attacking the planet Qasama (which they know nothing about) in exchange for new territory elsewhere. They go to Qasama pretending to be a diplomatic party while actually spying, and when caught, kill a lot of Qasamans and threaten to do more damage until they're allowed to leave. Then they come back in greater force to conduct experiments, and kill more Qasamans to make their getaway. Their conclusion: Jeez, these people we've attacked twice are a damn menace, aren't they? We've got to start a full-scale war with them, quick! (The fact that the Qasamans used spy tricks and violence against the Cobras is cited as proof that the they're dangerous, even though the Cobras were first to spy and first to kill.) In the end, the Cobras find a solution short of war which will "only" overturn the foundations of Qasaman society. But it's the Cobras doing all this, so yay! A few people on the Cobra side note that the conflict was probably unnecessary, but even then, most treat it as a strategic blunder rather than a maybe-we're-the-bad-guys realisation.
- In Twisted, Railrunner gushes about how much he loves drinking blood and killing, and during his initial transformation and rampage, straight-out murders dozens of cops who were just doing his duty, then has the audacity to bitch that no one accepts him as he really is. He also has no problem with killing the Fallen, even though they're evil through no fault of their own... and he's the good guy!
- The Fault in Our Stars:
- Hazel frequently berates others for things they do or say, then does or says the same things herself, usually stating that it's okay when she does them. Vandalism is to be applauded when main characters engage in it.
- Peter van Houten treats Hazel and Gus the way they treat most other people, only he's more blunt about it. We're meant to think he's horrible while Hazel and Gus are wonderful. They have an expensive dinner on his expense then come inside his home against his express wishes, yet they are sympathetic and he is not because he refuses to indulge Hazel's desire to know what happened to the characters in his book after the book ended.
- Generally, whenever there's an argument between Alan and Denny on Boston Legal, Alan is clearly supposed to be right, and Denny clearly wrong, generally just by virtue of Alan holding the same viewpoint as the creator. Alan, unlike Denny, is never asked to defend his viewpoint or challenged on some less-than-strictly-true statements he makes, while Denny gives good points to defend his opinions, but they aren't explored by the series. One example is when the two debate Presidential candidates: Alan tells Denny to name even one good reason to choose the Republican candidate, but Alan is not asked to name a reason to vote for the Democratic candidate.
- Captain Jonathan Archer on Star Trek: Enterprise. Since the series is a Prequel and Archer essentially added to the franchise's history via Retcon, he is a borderline Designated Hero in that it is the future results of his present-time actions (which lead to the formation of the Federation) that are commonly trotted out to rationalize the fact that he is a Hypocrite who frequently violates his own stated principles when it is to his benefit or Earth's. The show often goes out of its way to emphasize that he will be one of the greatest heroes in history as seen by future generations, and therefore anything he does in the present is morally justifiable.
- Probably the most blatant example is his opinion on helping out less advanced species. In Dear Doctor, he uses the not-yet-existent Prime Directive as an excuse to not give a cure to a species on the brink of extinction. Note that he already has the cure and the recipe for it at this point. All he has to do is hand it over to the Valakians, and he'd save their lives and likely become a hero to their planet for generations. However thanks to the Prime Directive mentality (and also an absolutely terrible understanding of evolution) he doesn't do so. Three seasons later, in Observer Effect two of his crew contract a deadly disease. When he realizes that some Organions were watching the whole thing, he gets pissed off that they won't help him. Furthermore, he even references the events of Dear Doctor and stands by them. Whats even worse, is that the Valakians contracted their disease through no fault of their own, whereas the crew members who contracted the disease did so because they went literally digging through garbage without so much as wearing rubber gloves. The episode even later confirms that a hazmat suit would have protected them. In other words, Archer is against saving the lives of an entire planet who are doomed simply due to bad circumstances, but he's in favor of someone saving two members of his crew when the only reason they're about to die is because of their own incompetence.
- To a lesser extant than the above Humans and Vulcans are both apprehensive about the others. As can be imagined both tend to suffer from Moral Myopia when it comes to their relationship with the other species, but rather than portraying this as a shakey start to the relationship that would lead to the United Federation of Planets, it's always a sign that the Vulcans are a bunch of stuck up jerks.
- True Blood:
- Eric and Bill have both killed and tortured countless people during their lifetimes. Eric feels no remorse and continues to do so-he even has his own Torture Cellar. Bill is a self-loathing wreck about his past but hasn't tried to atone for his actions and quite readily kills if it is convenient for him to do so. His main objection in killing a seventeen year old girl (Jessica) and converting her to vampirism (knowing full well that she will probably die-most newborns vamps don't make it through the first year-and that she will certainly kill innocent people), is that he'll get in trouble with Sookie if she were to find out. During the first series, Bill murdered three people besides Jessica (the Ratraces and Sookie's perverted uncle, all of whom were jerkasses or perverts, but still humans) and suffers no repercussions. Both Bill and Eric would be considered violent sociopaths in real life, but we're meant to see them as heroic at best and antiheroic at worst because they both genuinely love Sookie.
- Sookie does some very bad things herself, and she's never called out on it. For one, she must have known exactly what would happen when she told Bill about her uncle or that young man who had been trying to infect the clan of vampires with his blood-borne illness. Or when she outed the telepathic bell-hop to Eric. And that's just the first season. It's easy to feel sympathy over her actions involving her uncle (he probably got what he deserved) but the other two didn't. The young man with the blood-borne illness was just seeking revenge for the brutal murder of his lover, and the vampires he targeted were unreformed and bloodthirsty killers. The plan didn't even involve murdering them, just put them out of action for a few months. Sookie's words sentenced him to death (and most likely, particularly brutal torture) at their hands. This incident has no repercussions and is never mentioned again, by anyone.
- Subverted in Stargate SG-1: at first it looks like Teal'c is going to be this, someone whose evil dog-kicking past will be swept away once he joins SG-1, but it's soon shown that the trope will be averted. Relatives of a few people whom Teal'c had butchered under orders from Apophis have him put on trial, and Teal'c insists he should be judged for his actions, despite the rest of SG-1 willing to do just about anything possible to bail Teal'c out. Teal'c also repeatedly shows concern and regrets over the things he did as First Prime of Apophis. One of the final episodes has that episode's villain, who murdered numerous innocents with a bomb, call out Teal'c saying that Teal'c was every bit as bad when he worked for the Goa'ulds. Finally, one of the most touching scenes of The Ark of Truth has Teal'c advising a former enemy soldier, who, like him, did horrible things in the name of his religion. Teal'c tells him that others may forgive him, but he'll never forgive himself, and that they should devote their lives to helping others for other people's sake, not for a vague hope of redemption.
Teal'c: One day others may try to convince you they have forgiven you. That is more about them than you. For them, imparting forgiveness is a blessing.
Tomin: How do you go on?
Teal'c: It is simple. You will never forgive yourself. Accept it. You hurt others-many others. That cannot be undone. You will never find personal retribution. But your life does not have to end. That which is right, just, and true can still prevail. If you do not fight for what you believe in, all may be lost for everyone else. But do not fight for yourself. Fight for others-others that may be saved through your effort. That is the least you can do.
- Buffy the Vampire Slayer:
- Helena Peabody in the 2nd season of The L Word had a strong social conscience. She cared a lot about the plight of poverty stricken families and donated a lot of money, both money from the company she inherited and her own money, to good causes. However she manipulated Tina and Bette so was a villain. Similarly when she mentioned to her - admittedly also very charitable - mother Peggy Peabody that she had been a neglectful mother and Peggy responded by mocking her we are encouraged to support Peggy who was always nice to Bette. We are also encouraged to dislike Helena for dating other women while with Tina even though she only did this after Tina cheated on her with Bette.
- Ally McBeal cheats on her boyfriend Gregg then decides to win him back by hiring a male model to be her pretend date to make said boyfriend jealous. When her boyfriend ends things with the woman he was dating to get back with her Ally then decides she prefers the hired model so doesn't want Gregg. Neither the show or any of Ally's friends show any negative judgment about her behavior. Ally is also the kind of person who purposefully smashed her car into a stranger's car and justified her actions because he had smiled at her and she wanted to meet him.
- When a character in Cold Feet cheated on their spouse the person they cheated with was always depicted as a villain yet when Karen, one of protagonists, starts an affair with a married man there is nothing negative shown about her behavior or her friend Rachel for encouraging her to pursue the affair
- Oz from Auf Wiedersehen, Pet series 1 and 2 was a xenophobe who abandoned his wife and child yet, while his behavior was shown as wrong, he was still someone the characters sided with. However when characters like Herr Grunwald or Arthur Pringle were rude or nasty to the main characters they were hate-figures deserving of ridicule and embarrassment.
- This trope played itself out in Robin Hood to a mind-boggling degree. No matter how much of a jerkass Robin could be at times, anyone who loved Robin was good, and anyone who hated Robin was evil. The end.
- Also true in the earlier and much superior Robin of Sherwood.
- Inverted irritatingly on Scrubs. No matter how badly JD's friends act, he's always in the wrong so he can learn something.
- Joey and Ross can have multiple girlfriends and this is fine. Phoebe can date two men at once and the other characters don't criticize her (though one of the men dumped her when he found out) but when Phoebe's boyfriend is overheard having sex with someone else the men rush upstairs to violently attack him with the women's full support. Ross at least was dating two women non-exclusively (very common, especially in big cities), and when one woman dated both Ross and Joey non-exclusively she wasn't portrayed as immoral or wrong in any way-exactly like Ross was. So at least they played that the same.
- Ross cheating on Rachel was portrayed sympathetically for both sides, one feeling hurt and betrayed and the other feeling ashamed and trying to fix his mistake. Joey slept with an actress who had a long term boyfriend and it was played entirely for laughs because he wasn't a main character and kind of a dick.
- Ross ridiculing Paolo right to his face, insulting him in English, knowing full well the guy can't understand him. Had the roles been reversed, Paolo would have been seen as a jerk. When Ross does it, it's played for laughs. Also, Ross intending to swoop in and seduce Rachel following her break-up with Paolo, not only knowing full well that she's in a bad state, but looking to do this BECAUSE she is. Even he argues that this is actually a pretty sleazy thing to do before going ahead with it anyway.
- Rachel's nasty attitude towards Ross' girlfriend Julie (and most of Ross' girlfriends) and her manipulative attempts to interfere in this and other relationships of his (trying to prevent Ross and Julie from sleeping together, getting Bonnie to shave her head, etc) She displays similar behavior towards Joey's girlfriends when she takes an interest in him, all played for sympathy and amusement because she's a main character, whereas she would have been reviled had she not been. And she just laughingly accepts that other women tend to dislike her?
- The later seasons of Charmed just smacks of this. The sisters can steal souls, wipe out free will with the Avatars, and even encourage killing higher ups of Good simply because it suits them. Phoebe in particular mixes this with heavy doses of hypocrisy to boot.
- In Highlander: The Series episode "Promises" Duncan owes fellow immortal Kassim a debt of honor for the time when the latter risked his own honor to let MacLeod rescue a friend from his lord. Centuries later, Kassim comes to collect, asking MacLeod to assassinate a tyrannical dictator so he can replace him with a good alternative. MacLeod reluctantly agrees, but at the crucial moment refuses to kill a man from behind, breaking his promise to Kassim and causing the death of the good alternative at the tyrant's hands.
- The Vampire Diaries:
- Elena and co are okay with proceeding with Klaus's ritual in which Elena, a vampire and a werewolf have to be sacrificed, once they figure out how to keep her alive. It's only once Klaus decides to use their friends as those vampire and werewolf that the main characters become worried. Presumably, if he used someone they never knew, they would've been perfectly fine with it.
- In the third season the string of innocent corpses Stefan leaves behind appear to be of interest purely in terms of judging his mental state.
- When it is realized that killing an original vampire also wipes out their entire bloodline, they naturally want to avoid killing the original responsible for the bloodline of Stefan, Damon and Caroline, because they're Elena's friends. Apparently however, no one is even slightly concerned about the possible hundreds of other vampires that will die if they kill any of the other originals. As far as is obvious, they aren't of concern.
- In season 4 they really outdo themselves by murdering Chris — a hybrid who was risking his life to help them in the first place — in cold blood because Jeremy needed to kill a vampire in order to stop Elena's hallucinations. And then they have trouble understanding why Tyler, who was Chris's friend, is upset about it.
- A Hunter looking to kill Elena just because she's a vampire? A horrible act of bigotry. Elena getting her brother to kill Kol, which would wipe out his entire bloodline, effectively committing mass murder on tens of thousands of vampires? Just something that needs to be done.
- In Glee most scenes feature Protagonist Centered Morality. If the scene is from Rachel's POV, then it will show stalking and harassing an auditor and cheating to get around fair audition procedures as a perfectly valid way to get into your chosen university; if it's from Finn's perspective, it will show yelling at and hitting a girl with a spinal injury and trying to tip her out of her wheelchair in the middle of a crowded dance floor as justified due to her not informing him the instant she started to regain some ability to walk; if it's from Sam's perspective, it will show ignoring a girl's boundaries and direct 'no' and pursuing her regardless as perfectly reasonable; if it's from Santana's, it will show vicious verbal abuse of a guy she hates because she slept with him while trying to avoid acknowledging her love for Brittany and then got slut-shamed by both him and his girlfriend in front of the glee club as perfectly reasonable and indeed enjoyable. If it's from Will's perspective, he can plant drugs in a student's locker, threaten him with expulsion and the ruination of his life, all in an effort to get him to join the freaking glee club, and he will be seen as the one in the right just because it's so clear that the student will be a great addition to the club. The worst for this is definitely Kurt; he can be as terrible as he wants to anyone (telling a student he smells homeless) but anyone who bullies or insults him is presented as an irredeemable villain.
- In Season Six, the Winchesters need Crowley (current ruler of Hell) to help Bobby and Sam, so they kill Alphas (powerful monsters) in order to help Crowley locate Purgatory, which he considers prime real estate, because he is planning to expand hell. Sure, he is much less evil than Lucifer (and possibly quite cuddly), but he regularly uses torture to achieve his ends. How likely is it that he's planning to do anything positive to the souls in Purgatory, let alone anything which benefits the heavenly or earthly spheres? Plus, they are mean to poor old Cas, who is already stressed with his civil war and being hunted by his family. Yet, we are supposed to side with the Winchesters.
- In the eighth season finale Sam and Dean have a chance to close the gates of Hell, banishing every demon off of the face of the earth forever, at the cost of Sam's life. They ultimately decide not to go through with it and the show tries to play it as a moment that shows just how much Sam and Dean care about each other, not mentioning how they consider his life more important than every human who will ever be killed by a demon from that point onwards. Also ironic, as the Winchesters have accepted imminent death for far lesser payoffs in the past. Is it better to die fighting a single demon, or wiping them all off the face of the Earth?
- There is another side to that story arc. In order to close the Gates of Hell, the brothers (well, Sam) have to complete 3 Trials- kill a Hellhound, save an innocent from Hell, and cure a demon. The hellhound was sicced on a bunch of people who sold their souls years ago, some for quite decent and arguably even noble reasons (to improve the lives of their family- albeit naively by making them rich, which inadvertently turned them all into jerks; to save their dying mother from death etc.), non-selfish or relatively harmless deals that demons make all the time; the innocent soul turns out to be their uncle-figure Bobby, who is shown to be only one of any number of innocents who were supposed to go to Heaven but landed in Hell; the third proves that the vast majority of demons can potentially be saved, and suggests demonism is a curable affliction a la The Corruption. In short, had they actually completed the trials, they would have damned billions of victimised and even innocent souls to true eternal damnation. Not once does anyone bring that up.
- Sam's behavior at the start of the eighth season - giving up hunting, shacking up with some random woman, and not even trying to find Dean or rescue Kevin from Crowley. It might have worked if the show had at least acknowledged he'd screwed up, but instead the narrative and Word of God tried to push that Sam's decision was 'mature' and Dean was wrong for being upset over it. Eventually the show did have Bobby call Sam out on this, but this was 19 episodes into the season and was likely only done to appease the fans once it became clear that nobody liked the decision.
- If one compares the early seasons to the later seasons you can easily see that this trope has become rampant in this show. Where once the boys angsted over the rights and wrongs of killing a demon- which always means killing the innocent person they are possessing too-, nowadays they cut them down by the dozen without a shred of hesitation or remorse, and in season 8 at one point Sam actually stops a demon from leaving a victim and then kills it; the only times they don't do this is, of course, with people they personally know and like. In earlier seasons, they were opposed to hunters who treated every single monster out there as fair game and slaughtered with impunity; nowadays, they do exactly that themselves, making only occasional exceptions for, once again, monsters they know (and admittedly, once or twice, for "new" monsters who haven't killed anyone...yet).
- In Wizards of Waverly Place it is really driven home in the Alex vs. Alex special. Alex gets drilled, again, for being irresponsible and selfish by her family. Being depressed over this, Alex pulls a stunt that endangers the world, again. She gets stripped of her powers, again, for her actions. At the end of the special, she gives a speech about how only Harper appreciates Alex for being herself and not trying to change her. This It's All About Me speech actually manages to deem her worthy of having her powers again.
- One of the more glaring flaws in the rejected Wonder Woman (2011 pilot). In this version Diana is a vigilante who brutalizes, tortures, and even kills Mooks in pursuit of her idea of justice — not to mention holding a press conference so she can tell everyone that Elizabeth Hurley's company is evil, admitting that she doesn't have any proof but she just knows that she's right. After rampaging her way through Hurley's company, the episode ends with her getting a standing ovation from her employees and the federal investigator (who just so happens to be her ex-boyfriend) lies to his superiors and tells them that there's no reason to go after Wonder Woman where just earlier a congressman who upholds the law and states all the horrible things WW has done is portrayed as evil. At no point is this presented with the slightest bit of irony.
- Little House on the Prairie:
- Kezia refuses to pay her taxes and has her home sold at auction. When Harriet buys the house, she's portrayed as the antagonist and everyone in town agrees with Kezia's side of the story. No one ever mentions that Kezia should have read her own mail. After all, she works at the post office where she reads everyone else's mail. This is particularly interesting because there is another episode where Harriet is seen as the bad guy for listening in on phone conversations. Kezia does the same thing with mail, but is the good guy.
- Mrs. Oleson is generally accepted as an antagonist and everything she does is wrong, so the Ingalls can do whatever they want and the audience will side with them. When Mrs. Oleson makes up a lie and spreads it, she's a horrible person. When an Ingalls makes up a lie, there's nothing wrong with it. In one episode, Charles takes in a black boy who wants to go to school. When he takes him to the school, Mrs. Oleson objects, saying the school is for the children of the people of Walnut Grove. Charles tells her the boy is his son from a previous marriage. In another episode, when Caroline's father is trying to sell copies of the book he wrote, Laura tells Mrs. Oleson the book has all kinds of gossip in it, including a story about how Caroline ran out of the house naked one time.
- Desperate Housewives did this a lot. We're supposed to feel sympathy for Lynette when she steals the children from her husband and goes cross-country without telling him because she believed he was cheating (he actually wasn't), to name an example.
- The main four girls and Mrs. Garrett in The Facts of Life do whatever they want and they're still considered examples of good people. Tootie snoops and snitches on other girls, spreading half-truths and rumors. Jo and Blair steal a van, buy beer illegally, drink wine, and do other things that would land a lot of people in jail. Mrs. Garrett doesn't respect the wishes of others and manipulates them to get what she wants, including setting the girls up for failure so they will have to room together for another year as punishment.
- Smallville had a huge problem with this trope when it came to certain characters. The most glaring being Lana Lang, and was one of the main reasons she became such a Scrappy. Lana could and would do anything, from invading close friends' privacy, yell at Clark for perceived slights and refusing to let him explain, try and frame Lex for her murder and later arranges to become the test subject for an experimental process that will grant her powers similar to Clark's, not to stop Lex from getting it, but so she can be with Clark. There's also the fact that Oliver, upon tracking down Lex's location, goes straight to try and kill him, and later when Lex returns and Lana tells the others about it, they make sure to freeze Ollie out of their investigation into Lex to stop him going after him. Everyone forgets that the reason Lana knew he was going for blood was because she too was trying to track him down.
- Hawkeye and Trapper could do whatever they wanted and were still considered "good." They put Frank in a crate and left him there. Another time, Frank thought ahead and wore electric socks. Hawkeye and Trapper call him a fink and wrestle the socks away from him. Why? Because Frank thought of it and they didn't?
- All the times that Hawkeye and the others give Frank a hard time over patients dying or not recuperating is seen as harmless joking. Whenever Frank takes a shot at Hawkeye when the tables are turned, everyone treats this as an unpardonable sin.
- In an early season, to force a commander out of the field Hawk and Trap induced symptoms of a burst appendix on him and then operated to remove it, even though it was an unneeded operation performed with full knowledge that there was no medical reasoning. This is treated as the good guys saving the common folk from an idiot leader, though also shown to be meaningless as they are at war and new causalities immediately come in regardless. Then later, after BJ comes in, Hawkeye wants to perform the same trick again, only this time BJ doesn't follow and Hawkeye (again) performs an unneeded operation, only this time by himself. As (this was during the Alda-wangst period) he melodramas about doing this horrific deed. Again it's proven meaningless by a new influx of patients.
- The iCarly trio have done things just as bad as the "villains" of various episodes have done. In one specific episode, the villain is a bully, who does the exact same thing that Sam has done and continues to do so long after the bully is defeated, with the only difference being that the villain picked on Carly. The bully insulted the trio and pushed Carly away, so she's apparently a big jerk who needs to be put in her place. Sam beats Freddie with a racket, throws him out of a tree house, and then slams onto him because he has a different opinion to everyone, and a season or two later, the two are dating.
- When Ollie chastises Helena for her violent methods, conveniently forgetting that he's killed many, many more people. When she calls him out on this and gives a Not So Different speech, his response is simply "no." In the next season however he has realized that people do see him as a murderer and he needs to change his ways.
- Also note the number of times Ollie gets indignant when he finds out a loved one has lied to him, most notably his mother, and weigh that against the secrets he keeps and the lengths he goes to to keep them.
- In lots of sitcoms and soap operas a main character will go through a particularly bad break-up/dumping. Often that character will talk about how bad and nasty and horrible their ex was, and we are meant to agree with them, when often their ex is not actually shown doing anything more 'bad' than simply not wanting to be in a relationship with them. But according to the protagonist and the narrative, this makes them 'bad'. Diane Chambers in Frasier, while she did leave Frasier at the altar it was subsequently revealed many times that she cared for him and liked him, just not in a romantic way, and yet Frasier and the gang absolutely demonized Diane.
- Doctor Who:
- "Meglos" takes place on a planet where everyone lives in a safe underground city undisturbed by the planetwide jungle teeming with venomous and carnivorous plants. Their power source, a mysterious artifact, is stolen by the intergalactic criminal Meglos to use in a planet-killing superweapon. The Doctor reprograms the weapon to change the target from the jungle planet to Meglos' base. His decision to kill Meglos and the band of thieves he was working with (who didn't even know they were involved in a genocidal scheme up until the end) is never explained or even questioned. More alarmingly, the underground city leaders thank the Doctor for saving their planet from destruction and stopping the criminal who stole their power source, but never question whether it was really necessary to destroy the power source. They now have to evacuate untold cubic miles of powerless underground dwellings, set up new homes in a horrible writhing jungle, and somehow find the power to make it all work. Assuming this is even possible, it will be a long and difficult process in which many lives will no doubt be lost. The Doctor may have had no alternative to destroying the artefact, but we wouldn't know because the subject is never discussed at all.
- In "Remembrance of the Daleks", the Doctor frequently chastises the military (and humanity in general) for their habit of resorting to violence. However, not only does the Doctor directly kill several Daleks over the course of the story, he's actually been planning to eradicate them all for centuries in advance - with a weapon he helped build. Of course, this may have been a last resort and the Doctor at one point even seems to consider whether he's doing the right thing.
- The reboot series continually has the Doctor waver back and forth on whether or not genocide is bad, but it's always in regards to what he wants; sometimes he won't kill the invading aliens because he's worried about falling down some slippery slope, even though billions of innocents will die, while other times he's perfectly willing to wipe out a whole species to preserve the one he likes the best. In "The Parting of the Ways" he refuses to kill the Daleks because doing so would wipe out life on Earth (which the Daleks are wiping out anyway even as he thinks this, and would have killed many more if not for a Deus ex Machina), and in "Journey's End" he berates his clone for killing the Daleks (again) even though the latter rightly pointed out that leaving them alive would threaten the whole universe and were only narrowly stopped from destroying multiple universes, along with the fact only the Daleks were destroyed. Later just a few Daleks surviving enables them to rebuilt their race and cause more death and destruction throughout history. Meanwhile, the Doctor kills off species like the Pyroviles (along with 20,000 innocent people though this was a fixed point in time) and the Saturnynians (but he feels bad about it, so it's okay) and gleefully organises the deaths of the Silence even though, by the Doctor's own admission, the Earth is technically theirs.
- In a quite controversial moment in the Tenth Doctor's first story "The Christmas Invasion", he gets Harriet Jones fired for destroying the Sycorax when they were retreating. There are good points to be said for both of them, however the Doctor just uses it to portray her as the monster. This, despite him killing the Sycorax leader for not honouring the bargain earlier, and how the Sycorax might have ended up attacking another planet. 10 uses this as an excuse to bring down Harriet Jones in a contrived and ridiculous manner, thus changing history and cheating Britain out of its Golden age. In other stories the Doctor was very adamantly criticising others for trying to change history, even if they thought it was for the better. And stories like "Children of Earth" seem to show the Doctor changed history for the worse.
- Rose Tyler treats her boyfriend Mickey horribly, not showing much care for him when her disappearing for a year meant he got questioned by the Police and her mother thought he'd murdered her. She's horrible to any other woman who interacts with the Doctor, in "Parting of the Ways" even shooting dirty looks at Linda for acting perfectly nicely to the Doctor and going out of her way to be mean to Sarah Jane just for saying she used to travel with the Doctor. In "Doomsday" when she is trapped in a Parallel world and the Doctor says them meeting would destroy both worlds her reaction is "So?". In "Journey's End" she clearly says she was working on trying to get back to her world before the barriers collapsed, despite what the Doctor said. Yet the writers and the Doctor portray her as the perfect companion, and these points are never brought up.
- In LOST the main characters are often placed in situations where they are forced to lie, or even kill, in order to survive. the main characters seem to have accepted this and don't really condemn anyone on 'their' side for killing someone because they see the killing as justified. But when one of the 'others' has to do the same thing against them, for the exact same reasons, they are quick to condemn them and attack them and even kill them, failing to see that they are guilty of the exact same thing. But when 'they' do it it is justified, when the others do it it isn't.
- The X-Files:
- Whenever Mulder and Scully are reassigned or the X-Files division is closed, the audience is supposed to feel as outrageously indignant about it as Mulder does. The only problem is that the actions of the partners before the closing/reassignment are actions that should have gotten them fired, if not arrested, including breaking into government agencies using fake identification, stealing evidence, going on unauthorized cases, ignoring direct orders from superiors, etc. The partners always assume that the closing of the X-Files division is part of the conspiracy (and they're not totally wrong), but one has to remember that not only are these agents making the agency look bad, the only reason the X-Files is even open is because Mulder has sway in the government. It's a non-essential division and really shouldn't exist to begin with.
- In season 8 Kersh becomes the new AD and assigns Doggett to not only head the manhunt for Mulder, but also replace him on the X-Files. Kersh is supposed to be seen as an evil dictator of sorts, very different from Skinner, who started out as a boss and ended up a friend. He constantly says he's keeping on eye on the X-Files, which the audience assumes means he's looking for any reason to shut it down. In reality, having a division with essentially rogue agents and a vague case-closure percentage means he should be looking at it closely. Not to mention Mulder had just disappeared and it was seemingly connected to the work. When he says that he'll fire Scully or Skinner if they mention the word "aliens" to his own superiors, one forgets that his job is not only to police the agents under him but to make the FBI itself look good. He also makes several good points when Mulder returns and is refused reinstatement to the FBI — Mulder has a personnel file thick enough to rival War and Peace and Doggett does not, and the case closure rate for the X-Files had gone from a very low amount to the highest in the bureau during Doggett's tenure in the office. In the end, he does agree to reinstate Mulder, but rightly fires him in "Vienen" when he — surprise, surprise — ignores direct orders and almost causes an international incident. And who are we supposed to identify with? Mulder and Scully.
- On Saved by the Bell, Zack and most of the other main characters aren't much nicer to their nerdy classmates than any of the various bullies who appear on the show in its run. They insult them frequently and look down on them as people (including Screech, who's supposedly Zack's best friend), but because they're the main characters, this is treated as totally normal and acceptable. One particular example comes in the Date Auction episode, wherein Lisa's Guy of the Week is a handsome brainy kid (not a "nerd") who isn't interested in her until she puts on an intellectual facade. Later in the episode, he's made out to be a pompous jerk because he expresses less-than-complimentary feelings about Lisa's friends, as well as Lisa herself before putting on the facade, and Lisa is made out to be correct in telling him off. Of course, it's never pointed out that Lisa expresses similarly condescending views about people she feels are beneath her (nerds, especially Screech) to some extent in almost every other episode. It comes off like the only thing the smart guy did wrong was insult main characters who weren't one of the show's Acceptable Targets.
- Family Matters did this in its last season, when Steve and Laura suddenly hooked up with each other. The problem is that they were both dating other people, who suddenly became their Romantic RunnerUps. And to make things even worse, the writers thought it was a good idea to turn Myra, Steve's ex-girlfriend, into a Designated Villain. It might be true that Myra already had shown signs of being unhinged and morally ambiguous. But still, she had mostly been a good girlfriend to Steve, and she and Laura had even become friends. But in an attempt to make us root for Steve and Laura, who were the Designated Heroes, she suddenly was flanderized into an Ax-Crazy Stalker with a Crush, who couldn't bear seeing her ex-boyfriend with another woman. And still, you have to feel sorry for her. After all, she had been Steve's girlfriend for the last four seasons, even when other people often bullied him.
- Played straight in season 3 of How I Met Your Mother but then eventually subverted. Barney's Casanova ways were viewed with disgust by the rest of the group. But they never had a problem when Ted got in on it after his break-up with Robin. Eventually though Ted realizes just how sleazy he's been acting - and acknowledges it was more out of desperation.
- Played straight to the point of absurdity on Gossip Girl. Everyone dislikes the eponymous blogger for stalking them, violating their privacy, ruining parts of their lives and occasionally even being part of putting some of their lives in danger. The moment they find out that Gossip Girl is one of the main characters they all forgive and forget instantly and decide that the blog was actually a positive in their lives. Heck, she even gets to marry Serena, the person who's been stalked and criticized the most on the blog, and we're supposed to think it's a happy ending.
- Played with on Rome - several character denounce acts done by their enemies but view them as fully justified when they do the same things themselves.
- Lucy on I Love Lucy is sometimes called out for her mischief, but other times, she isn't, including one time she ruined a night club owner's revenues for an entire night. This was because the owner tried to do Ricky a favor and let him out of his contract to go make more money when Lucy was trying to squeeze him for higher pay. So, to repay a kindness, Lucy screws him over.
- In the Agents Of Shield episode T.A.H.I.T.I, the team needs to recover a miracle drug to save Skye from a bullet wound. The drug is being guarded by SHIELD agents who won't let the unauthorised team take it. The team kills them both and no-one questions the morality of this at all. Bizarrely, Coulson later argues against Simmons' desire to study the drug on the basis that SHIELD wanted it kept secret so badly that two men died to protect it. You mean those two men you had killed last episode because you wanted to use the drug on someone you personally cared about?
- Taylor Swift's "You Belong With Me". The opening lyrics state that the boyfriend is having an argument with his girlfriend. She's apparently offended by something that he said. The next lyric is "she doesn't get your humour like I do". Because of course since Taylor is the narrator, her romantic rival clearly has to be in the wrong. She must of course be overreacting to a joke, rather than have a legit reason to be offended at something her boyfriend said to her.
- Notorious BIG's "Juicy" starts with a spoken word segment where Biggie says that the album is dedicated to " all the people that lived above the buildings that I was hustlin' in front of that called the police on me when I was just tryin' to make some money to feed my daughter". Apparently illegally dealing drugs is okay provided that the money goes to your daughter.
- Common themes in gangsta rap songs are about how the rapper had to sell drugs to survive and feed their family, commit armed robbery as a means to an end and murder their rivals. The rappers believe these actions to be justified and those who oppose them to be in the wrong. Evident in songs like Tupac Shakur's "Changes", were he berates a drug dealer then later says "I ain't never did a crime I ain't have to do", "Warning" by The Notorious BIG in which he plans the murders of two people trying to rob from him, and Fuck Tha Police by NWA where they explain how it is okay to murder racist cops.
- Hulk Hogan gouged eyes, pulled hair, choked on the ropes and such as much as anyone on top on being an incredibly Sore Loser, the World Wrestling Federation always portrayed Hulk Hogan as a squeaky clean All American Face.
- The Big Show once got disqualified for pulling John Cena out of the ring during a tag team match also involving Chris Jericho and Randy Orton. Kane once got disqualified for giving John Cena a big boot. At some point the rules of wrestling as far as WWE is concerned became "It is illegal to try and stop John Cena from winning a match."
- Pro Wrestling has often had a double standard related to heels and faces, where if a heel and face do the same underhanded thing, the heel will be treated by commentary and kayfabe as a horrible jerk and the face's actions will be laughed off or weakly excused. This especially a big problem in WWE, especially in the early 2010's, where it seems almost every feud has at least some shades of this. Some standout exceptions being...
- There are plenty of times when a face will steal something from a heel, often unprovoked, and it'll just be treated as the wacky antics of a hero. Sheamus stealing Alberto Del Rio's car was laughed off with "he's just borrowing it", and the entire buildup of the Intercontinental Title match at Wrestlemania 31 was all six of Wade Barrett's opponents stealing the title from him and hot potatoing and stealing it from each other repeatedly.
- Roman Reigns' entire singles career began this way, with him getting into a #1 contender's match for the WWE Title by poisoning his bosses' coffees and leaving their put-upon underling, Vickie Guerrero, an essentially innocent woman in the whole situation, to take the fall for it. Even worse, Reigns' bosses didn't even acknowledge his fault in the whole thing even though his spiking the coffees was caught on camera, and they instead opted to punish Vickie. So in WWE's kayfabe, Roman Reigns got an innocent woman fired for his own benefit and wasn't punished for it in any way aside from not winning the title.
- As noted above, John Cena runs into this a lot. Over the course of nearly a decade and a half, Cena has piled up quite a list, which includes but is not limited to: hitting Batista with an Attitude Adjustment off the roof of a car and through a hole in the stage, after Batista begged him not to; putting Rusev in a submission hold and making him tap out just to get him and Lana to agree to a match at Wrestlemania 31, when doing something very similar to Edge was meant to be considered Seth Rollins' Moral Event Horizon; and challenging a worn-out Rey Mysterio to a match for the WWE title on the same night Rey won it for the first and only time in his career (notable especially because Rey might be even more of a "perpetual face" than Cena). This is one of the biggest criticism of Cena, as he is shown doing things like this frequently, but it is almost never acknowledged and even then only by heels who are meant to be wrong.
- Many Tabletop RPG players, especially those who aren't interested in the role-playing aspects of the game, will take this attitude. Anything they do is completely justifiable (including killing sentient creatures and taking their stuff - also known as "a home invasion"), while they will seek revenge on NPCs for the slightest infraction. It can also come up in a strange way even for players who are concerned with roleplaying: If one of the characters is a criminal, the other players, even if they're Lawful Good, will be much more willing to forgive and trust that player than they would if an NPC behaved the same way. The degree to which they're forgiven is primarily founded in wanting to play with their friends, but not force them to play a character they don't want to play. Also, Never Split the Party.
- A major part of the background in Warhammer 40,000. Almost every book published by the Black Library is Imperial propaganda, and the fluff included in each faction's codex casts them in a good light (with the exception of Chaos and Tyranids, both of which are mostly from Imperial point of view as well, probably because the stars of those books are insane or all devouring cosmic horrors).
- Thoroughly deconstructed in Stephen Sondheim's Into the Woods. The first act sees fairy tale characters Jack (the one who climbs a beanstalk), Cinderella, and Little Red Riding Hood living their famous stories, while a new couple—a childless Baker and his Wife—try to break the spell on their family by collecting items from those characters. All five of these main characters do sneaky, underhanded things to achieve their dreams, but they still have our support...until Act Two comes along, and Sondheim shows us just what the consequences of the characters' wishes have been. For instance, the Giant's wife appears and points out that she welcomed Jack into her home—despite his being a complete stranger—and offered him food and care, only for Jack to repeatedly return and steal money, a golden egg-laying goose, and a singing harp. The first theft was perhaps the worst, as he didn't even allow the Giantess to explain the situation to her husband; he simply stole from her and ran for it. Jack then eventually killed the Giant, and no one cared because he was a "monster." But his wife did, and she is angry.
- Discussed in "Stepsisters' Lament," a song from the musical version of Cinderella. The stepsisters, watching Cinderella dance with the Prince, point out that conventionally pretty but mysterious girls—"frail and fluffy beauties" who are "obviously unusual"—always end up with happy endings and the support of the audience, while "solid," "usual" women like them are inevitably left with nothing. It's worth noting that in this version, the stepsisters, while somewhat mean, have a softer, kinder side, but they still end up cast out of the palace at the end of the musical.
- This trope was used and addressed by the developers of Brink, with the biggest example being a mission where, as the Resistance, you're trying to safeguard a vaccine from capture by Security forces. The same mission, played from the Security side, is attempting to wrest a lethal bio-weapon from the Resistance. After all, to develop a vaccine, you first need a sample of the virus. Plenty of other examples are given throughout playing both campaigns, which was an intentional design.
- Discussed in Kid Icarus: Uprising, when a villain accuses Pit of being a "flying munitions depot" and more destructive than her own forces. He remarks "But I'm fighting evil. It's different. Look it up." It actually is different, since he's only attacking armies that are actively attacking innocent people.
- In Final Fantasy VII there's a downright odd moment when a giant meteor is about to hit the face of the planet and Shin-Ra, the big bad corporation, come up with a plan to prevent this catastrophic event from happening. The heroes promptly sabotage their plan, saying that the McGuffin used would be safer and better employed in their hands. Even weirder, when Shin-Ra's plan does go wrong, Barrett comments 'I kinda hoped it would work'. You also kill countless amounts of Mooks throughout the game. The only exceptions are the Turks, who get to survive to bug you another day.
- The Player Character from Knights of the Old Republic can be played like this if you get all the Dark Side points in the game for being a massive jerk for the sake of it and then saved the Republic, everyone will ignore all that and you're a hero.
- This gets ridiculous in Sands of Destruction, where you're trying to destroy the world, which is perfectly acceptable. The ferals, most of whom treat humans poorly, are the bad guys, occasionally trying to stop you when you do something they don't like, such as killing their kid and stealing from them.
- Tales of Graces: Richard has been possessed and turned into a merciless psycho king. However, because Richard is a friend to the party, they can't just kill him before he ruins or ends anyone else's life. They need to save him!]] There is also the fact that if they killed him, they'd be killing the last King of Windor and even if he wasn't Asbel's friend, Asbel would be committing regicide and Lhant would be screwed. Sadly, this is never explored in game.
- Tales of Symphonia:
- A very minor one in the synopsis of the plot thus far, found in the game's menu. After the ambush atop the Fooji Mts. the game claims that the Renegades stole the Rheiards from you. I guess we're ignoring that the party stole them from the Renegades in the first place?
- Sheena also provides a minor example: after Kuchinawa is revealed as a Double Agent one of the things she and her village is worried about is that the secrets of their village may have been leaked, and at another point she mentions that her village takes great effort to keep itself as secretive as possible. All the while though, she and her village actively spies on every other group in the entire game (even the other world of Sylvarant through The Renegades).
- This is halfway to being the moral system at work in The World Ends with You, and it's the probably only reason for why the Composer is left alive even though you kill plenty of other villains. However, Uzuki and Kariya get to live even after killing Rhyme, indicating that a) being funny gets you a pass as well, b) it's not protagonist centered so much as camera centered, with whoever gets character development surviving, or c) Beat is left out of determining what's moral and what's immoral. (Come to think of it, c) could also explain why Beat and Shiki, who have no connection to the Composer, don't kill him when Neku refuses to do it.) The moral problems from all of that get somewhat less serious when reading the secret reports and realize that erasure isn't actually permanent, but more of a major setback on the road dead souls take. As for Beat and Shiki Joshua paralyzed them so they couldn't do anything.
- Team Fortress 2: The "Meet the [Class]" promotional videos are all shot from the RED team's perspective (except for "Meet the Spy", which plays more like a Mook Horror Show instead), so only RED team's classes are impossibly heroic, badass, and loyal. In-game voice responses and taunts also suggest that both RED and BLU teams have this sort of mindset.
- Valkyria Chronicles:
- Selvaria, being a Valkyria, is a terrifying enemy who remorselessly slaughters thousands of Gallians, but only until we find out that Alicia is one too, and once she has a connection to the protagonists, her villain status immediately begins to wane. The heroes are much more upset about her capture than they are about the castle full of soldiers she obliterates, the player is expected to feel much more for her than her victims, and the plot pays so much more attention to her that the fact that her capture was a Wounded Gazelle Gambit is never even addressed by her survivors.
- Selvaria herself tends to embody this trope on her own, in conjunction with Squad 7's Plot Armor. She's being exploited for her powers and only kills Mooks that no one cares about, so the story treats her like a tragic figure who is good at heart, but isn't in control of her own destiny. Then she spares Squad 7, thus sabotaging Maximillian's assured victory at the last minute, but she kills those thousands of soldiers anyway. The way the story plays out, the tragedy is that she committed suicide, not that a sizable portion of Gallia's entire population was just murdered during a truce.
- Faldio shoots Alicia to awaken her Valkyria powers, which stops Selvaria from destroying what's left of the Gallian military and winning the war. Although no one disagrees that his plan worked when no one else had any other ideas, the story utterly condemns him for choosing the many over the one because the one is a main protagonist and the many were Mooks, and while he's punished for treason, the story shows us he was wrong because his plan to save the day required harming a main character instead of just trusting that they'd figure out a way themselves. It's especially notable that he openly states that it's because no one had a solution that he even went to such lengths to begin with, and in the end, the plot proves it was necessary. The narrative nails this one home at the end when he commits a completely needless Taking You with Me with Maximillian, explicitly to atone for believing in power instead of his friends... who don't object, try to talk him out of it, or even indicate that they accept his apology, even though they're openly offended that someone would dare physically strike Selvaria.
- Geld had been committing war crimes since the first war and the Empire apparently knew about it, but wasn't punished for it until, as luck would have it, he was caught by Captain Varrot, who only stayed in the army to find him and get revenge for torturing and murdering her lover. Evidently the Empire didn't mind him torturing and killing prisoners and civilians until Varrot took the high road.
- The only Imperial soldiers given any sympathetic treatment are the one that dies in Alicia's lap, and the captain of his unit who lets Alicia and Welkin leave in peace instead of killing them while they're alone in the woods without backup; it's supposed to be a way of showing that the Imperials are Not So Different, but since they go right back to acting like assholes for the rest of the game, it seems that the only way the Imperials can be good people is by being good to the lead couple.
- Remember Me doesn't really care too much about anyone but Nilin and the people she cares about personally. No mention is made of the people who are killed as a result of her tampering with memories except for the one she feels guilty about, or the people who are about to be suddenly flooded by horrible memories they once deleted at the end of the game.
- One level ends with her flooding Paris and aside from a cutscene where she feels guilty about it and a few people yelling at her through their windows as you run across the abandoned vehicles resting in the water, nothing more is ever shown from it and no one ever brings it up again.
- In the Good ending of Swan Song, Takuma is forgiven and left unpunished for rape, murder, torture, necrophilia, you name it. In the normal ending he is the sole reason for the death of all the earthquake survivors.
- This is an in-universe plot point in Fate/stay night; the main criteria for a human becoming a Heroic Spirit is they are the hero of their own story. Even if they are truly rotten (like Gilgamesh and Bluebeard), if they were a "hero" by that definition their soul is stored in the Throne of Heroes rather than reincarnated. Originally the Grail System was designed to prevent such "Anti-Heroes" from being summoned in any role other than Assassin. After the Third Grail War this restriction was removed due to the corruption of the Grail by Angra Mainyu.
- The protagonists of Kit n Kay Boodle are always right and everything they do is morally righteous and correct behavior, no matter what they're doing to whom, because their motives are supposedly pure and for the greater good. This includes raping someone with the mind of a child, because she's a brat, and framing her lawyers for the crime when they try to rescue her.
- In Least I Could Do, protagonist Rayne gets away with being insanely rude, selfish, insulting, etc. because, well, it's him. In earlier strips his friends would give back about as good as they got, but in more recent years Rayne is the only one allowed to look good in the end. The modus operandi of late involves Rayne doing something mean or selfish to his friends for 90% of the storyline, then taking the last 10% to do something that magically makes everyone forgive him, whether it's honestly nice or just him cleaning up the mess he got them into in the first place. Not helping matters at all is the fact that Rayne is pretty well an Author Avatar for Ryan Sohmer.
- One of the more extreme examples is when Rayne finds a homeless orphan and starts using him as an ill-defined personal assistant/slave/plaything, often verging on abuse at the very least. At one point, he gets called out on it. His reaction is one of indignation, and he points out how he is saving the kid from a life on the street, and how he is actually the child's legal guardian. The accuser (an attractive woman, of course) backs down, saying something to the effect "I'm sorry for assuming the worst". The comic (and the accuser) completely ignores/forgets that such behaviour towards someone entirely dependent on you is still very much abusive, and paying money for someone's living doesn't render their basic dignity moot. If anything, the boy is in no position to protest for fear that he might actually have nothing to eat if he gets kicked out. (Never mind that "I may treat you badly, but you'll be worse off without me" is a tactic used by real life abusers.) Arguably, switching from the usual Comedic Sociopathy to a weak attempt at treating the situation realistic and justifying Rayne's behaviour makes it worse, by claiming the situation is a-OK rather than dismissing it as a comedic, unrealistic situation.
- The possibly insane homeless older guy Rayne does basically the same thing to is played more for laughs, seeing as how the character looks almost exactly like artist Lar de Souza's self-portrait.
- Zii of Ménage ŕ 3 is constantly performing acts that could be considered sex crimes, and spends almost all her time switching between trying to get laid and stopping other people from getting laid. These are portrayed as harmless, happy exploits and every time she seems to go too far such as by seducing an internet troll's mother or a waitress it turns out she was right to do so (the mother's husband was cheating on her and she gave her the confidence to divorce him, the waitress was sexually unsatisfied by her boyfriend). Even the other roommates who she's devoted to sexually manipulating don't seem bothered by her.
- Miko Miyazaki from The Order of the Stick was intended to be an intentional exploration of this: A Lawful Good paladin and also one of the protagonists' main antagonists. She is shown to be slightly more reasonable as long as none of them are in the room with her. Well, up until the point where she ends up killing an innocent old man over her own misgivings and continues to insist it was all according to some greater plan her gods had for her.
- In PvP, Max Powers was a parody of this, until the characters actually became friends with him. Although he was really nothing more than a friendly, decent guy (if somewhat self-centered) he was the "villain" of the strip, and Cole's "nemesis." His "crime" was nothing more than being more successful than Cole. Take Cole's Bias Goggles off, and he was nothing more than a Sitcom Arch-Nemesis.
- As someone over at the BadWebcomicsWiki put it, Sabrina Online's Zig Zag is able to do whatever she wants whenever she wants to whomever she wants, from sexually harassing an employee to threatening said employee's boyfriend to stalking, harassing, and physically assaulting people for saying mean things about her on the internet. There are some consequences however; the sexually harassed employee gives her a black eye and is promptly apologized to, and the campaign against her internet detractors results in "so many lawsuits."
- YU+ME: dream has this when it comes to Lia. While she was Not Herself sort of when doing all of the terrible things she did, it was a bit jarring to see her have a romantic reunion with Fiona while a child that she killed was still in the background of the scene. There are also no repercussions for her actions besides her feeling bad about it... which doesn't seem to be getting in the way of her life too much. However, this event is what caused Fiona to merge consciences with their respective owners, so something like that won't happen again.
- Sonichu has this in spades. It matters not if Christian Chandler has decided to have his characters destroy an office building with hundreds of innocent employees inside, as long they were making fun of Rosechu, he's in the right.
- One interpretation of Captain Hammer (the one that most people in-story believe, and most viewers don't) in Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog is that he really is a hero and didn't, on average, deserve a comeuppance, and wasn't really any worse than a lot of other heroes except from the point of view of Doctor Horrible. Granted, said comeuppance is self-inflicted and relatively minor, more befitting a Jerk Jock than a supervillain.
- Deconstructed with the subtlety of a brick in The Sword of Good, parodic "fragments of a novel that would never be written" in which a Genre Savvy lost prince raised in our world battles Always Chaotic Evil orcs alongside a pirate captain and a wizard with healing magic. When they meet the villain, right after the death of a Mauve Shirt the pirate was in love with, the villain points out that the wizard could have not only saved the Mauve Shirt himself by putting himself at minimal risk but could also have alleviated much suffering the heroes had previously seen, prevented from doing so only by the self-interested ideology that's underlain both the villain's "evil" classification and the wizard's mysticism to that point. This causes the hero to realize how much suffering the grieving pirate captain must have herself caused almost by definition, how quickly he bought into the idea of hereditary absolute monarchy, and the fact that his party is guilty of torture, and he concludes that Hannibal Has a Point.
- Conversed in the "Violence as Narrative" episode of Folding Ideas. He talks about how a lot of video games will portray the main characters' actions as okay even if they're terrible. Then he discusses 3 games that worked around Protagonist-Centered Morality or attentional bias and instead have the violence as a part of the narrative. The examples of aversions he gives are:
- The Last of Us: Joel has learned to solve his problems with violence to the point that's all he knows. He shows symptoms of sociopathy when rescuing Ellie. In the end, there's a Perspective Flip which gives a more objective out-look on his actions.
- Hotline Miami: The player is forced to make the protagonist go through the maze again afterward and see the corpses of all the people the protagonist has killed. The main character is later provided a foil and gives the player (playing as the foil) the option not to kill anyone if they want.
- Bioshock Infinite: The look of Comlumbia emphasizes Booker's violent actions and role as a chaotic element. He, in text, claims the Vox Populi are a reaction to people much like himself. He acts and presents himself as an enemy to the Voice of the People.
- Parodied in this video. Despite seen as people doing charity for good, the speedruners are blatantly doing things like stealing college degrees, killing their own parents, literally trying to kill themselves, and generally causing $1000's worth of damage, all to raise only $25 for an unnamed charity. There's even a narrator reassuring us that it's for charity.