aka: Precursor Hero
A hero or group of heroes (often oddly similar to your own Player Party
) that arose in the hour of need and sealed the Ultimate Evil in its can 1,000 years ago
. Often shows up in As Long as There Is Evil
or similar scenario (like the aforementioned Sealed Evil in a Can
) where the evil recurs.
May be the sire of the hero's Heroic Lineage
and original bearer of the Ancestral Weapon
. If they're literal predecessors, can be an example of Generation Xerox
Contrast Predecessor Villain
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Anime & Manga
- One episode of Demashita! Powerpuff Girls Z showed that there were analogues to the girls in the Edo period that sealed Him away in a volcano.
- In Digimon Adventure it's revealed that the heroes weren't the first group of digidestined.
- HeartCatch Pretty Cure! establishes that there were many other Cures that had their own adventures long before the four main heroines did. Only two of their forerunners were actually shown (although others appeared in the form of anonymous statues) — the heroine's grandmother, formerly known as Cure Flower, is a mentor to the team, while Cure Angie, who was active four hundred years ago and is stated to be the first Cure in history, briefly appears in the movie.
- The Board Game Heroquest gives the names of the 4 heroes who defeated the villain Zargon years ago, and specifically states that the players are trying to live up to the example.
- The 2011 Defenders series introduced a group of heroes around the beginning of the 20th century who had been the victim of a Cosmic Retcon related to storyline of the series. They were superheroes before any such concept existed in the Marvel Universe canon, and before superhero comics were published in real life. They mostly had a Steam Punk motif and corresponded to early science fiction and pulp adventure tropes.
- Few years earlier Runaways did someting similiar, revealing two groups of superhumans living in 1920 New York. They spent most of time fighting each other and it was impossible to tell who the real bad guys are, just like regular Marvel heroes around time the story came out.
- The Powers Of Harmony
- The Order of the Zodiac, a group of knights who served Celestia during the War of the Sun and Moon. Blair's company of Royal Guards are Echoes (magical clones) of them.
- According to the folklore of the Zhevra Flatlands, there's also Hakumbele, a great warrior who long ago descended from the mountains to save the Flatlands from evil, and after a Heroic Sacrifice to defeat his foe, became the Flatlands' patron saint.
- Queen Of All Oni: The Shadowbinder Sage, who used his own lifeforce to make the Oni masks, and his disciples, who used them to seal the Oni.
- Inner Demons: Bayonet, the original Master of Harmony, who fought and defeated Queen Midnight thousands of years ago at the cost of her own life. Apple Bloom is her reincarnation.
- Cure Dawn and Cure Dusk in Futari Wa Pretty Cure Blue Moon are this, though they only operated 25 years before the story, far from ancient. In fact, they're still around, and they eventually return to active duty.
Films — Animation
- The Beatles' animated Yellow Submarine has the original Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band as Sealed Good in a Can. Probably suggested by the Sgt Pepper album cover where the waxwork Beatles in their mid-1960s suits are looking at the real ones in their Sgt Pepper outfits.
- The Power of Five: Each of the five Chosen Ones has a past self that lived centuries ago. All of the past selves teamed up to seal away the Old Ones in the first place.
- Originally, Martin the Warrior was basically this in Redwall... but then came the prequels where he's The Hero.
- Harry Potter: The Marauders (James Potter, Sirius Black, Remus Lupin and Peter Pettigrew) were this, as opposed to Harry and those who attended Hogwarts while he did. The Marauders, along with many others, fought in the First Wizarding War, while Harry fought in the Second Wizarding War, which is the one that happens during the course of the book and film series. Sirius once mentions that "it feels like it did before" when talking about the war that was on the doorstep between Harry's fourth and fifth years at Hogwarts.
- The earlier Seekers, such as Kieran, on Legend of the Seeker. Subverted when it turns out that Kieran betrayed his quest and had to be Sealed in a Can himself... though the way in which he did it (having sex with his Confessor) just makes the parallels with Richard more obvious.
- Several Power Rangers teams turn out to not be the first like them (though they would often be the first to use Ranger powers). Details about them tend to be left pretty vague, except in a few cases.
- With the original Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers, it's been hinted that Zordon has long been known to Recruit Teenagers with Attitude, though we never get more details than that.
- In Power Rangers Lost Galaxy, the Quasar Sabers have been used by those worthy to use them for many, many generations. There was talk of using the non-white Gosei Sentai Dairanger suits to represent a previous generation, but it was not to be.
- In Power Rangers Wild Force one of the warriors from 3000 years ago turns out to have been posessed, and after exorcism, becomes the Sixth Ranger. Also, the Giraffe Zord was once the signature weapon of one of the others, and one of the later weapons is named after him. We don't get to know the previous team, but saw flashbacks: they used the Crystal Sabers and Wild Zords but did not have Ranger-like suits, resembling knights instead.
- In Power Rangers Dino Thunder, the original Rangers could be considered the precursors, as The Mentor was Tommy and his old team got a few mentions.
- In Power Rangers Mystic Force, most of the group from last time around are major characters, probably because in this case the seal only lasted twenty years rather than the usual thousands. One of last time's group is The Mentor, two are the Big Bad's dragons (one Brainwashed and Crazy, one a traitor), one was Sealed Badass in a Can and becomes the new Sixth Ranger, and the Sixth Ranger from last time is mentioned at least once as a Posthumous Character.
- In Power Rangers Jungle Fury, there were seven Old Masters who sealed Dai Shi away millenia ago, and for the most part they're still around to serve as The Mentors to the current guardians. One gets hit with the Mentor Occupational Hazard in the first episode but visits a few more times as Spirit Advisor, three died in the battle to seal Dai Shi but the Rangers are able to visit the Spirit World to learn from them, and the last three make recurring appearances as Retired Badasses. The original Beast War was ten thousand years ago. The fact that this means the surviving Masters are several thousand years old is completely ignored. We even meet Master Phant's teenage niece. The final battle brings all seven together to join the young 'uns in kicking major ass.
- In the intro to Power Rangers Samurai, it is shown that a group of samurai from Feudal Japan originally sealed Master Xandred and the Nighloks into Sanzu River. Also a few years prior to the main series, the Rangers' parents fought the Nighloks before their generation's Red Ranger sealed Xandred again after he broke out (which is implied to be a common occurrence; no Red Ranger has been able to make the seal permanent). This is a rare instance to show the precursors as actual Rangers using the same suits.
- On the Super Sentai side of things, the core 5 of Gosei Sentai Dairanger are distant descendants or, in the case of Ryo, not quite so distant of the five Dai Tribe warriors who originally fought the Gorma thousands of years ago. These original Dairangers were destroyed when the red one was seduced over to the Gorma side and led the others into a trap. The traitor red ventured into the human world for a while in the modern era and sired the boy who would become the red of his time, and eventually redeemed himself.
- The previous 34 teams became precursor heroes in Kaizoku Sentai Gokaiger. They drove the Zangyack away from Earth by sacrificing their powers to create a huge explosion. The powers were eventually collected by AkaRed, Basco, and Marvelous, before being used by the Gokaiger team.
- A rather unusual example of this occurs in Zyuden Sentai Kyoryuger: the precursor team for the series isn't the Kyoryugers themselves. Rather, it's their mecha.
- Though in at least one case, there was an actual costumed hero: Ramirez, a European warrior from the Dark Ages, bonded with the #7 mecha Ankydon (an ankylosaurus), known in-costume as KyoryuCyan.
- And now the samurai Kyoryu Gold, and his partner, #6, Pteragordon/Pteraidenoh. Apparently, they're counting their sentient mecha as heroes the way any other Ranger team would; there are at least magazine images of other Kyoryugers to come in The Movie. There were definitely at least five spandex-suited predecessors back in the day.
- Dragon Age II: The protagonist's father, Malcolm Hawke, whose heroism is explored in the game's Legacy Downloadable Content. He's dead before the start of the game, but due to his use of magic, we get to hear his Badass Baritone.
- The Cooper family in Sly Cooper, who have been stealing from other thieves since prehistoric times.
- Most Fire Emblem games have them. Summarized on this fan site.
- In Overlord it's given a twist; they're the antagonists who defeated your predecessor and you were part of the group.
- The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker's Hero of Time (the main character of The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time).
- In Tales of Symphonia, you have Mithos' party: Mithos, Martel, Yuan, and Kratos. By the time the game actually takes place though, only Mithos is remembered at all, and not for what he actually did (probably because he twisted the truth to fit his made-up religion). Well, technically people remember "the goddess" Martel, too...
- In Tales of Phantasia, there's the original party that defeated Dhaos in the past: You end up going back in time and replacing these people.
- In Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, a group of heroes sealed the Shadow Queen behind the titular door a thousand years before the events of the game. They are implied to be cursed into the beings that are trapped in blacks chests, and who curse you with new abilities using a loophole to help you.
- Final Fantasy
- Final Fantasy V has 12 heroes who defeated an ancient evil that was after the same power as the game's Big Bad.
- Then the Four Warriors of Dawn, who sealed away the Big Bad after discovering he was immortal.
- The Reveal of Final Fantasy I subverts this trope: the protagonists you have been playing as were the precursor heroes via the Timey-Wimey Ball.
- Auron, Braska and Jecht in Final Fantasy X.
- Final Fantasy III reveals that legendary warriors tend to appear whenever the balance of light and darkness go too far out of alignment. Last time around it was the warriors of darkness out to stop the forces of light from going out of control and destroying the world.
- In Lufia & The Fortress of Doom, you begin the game actually playing as the Precursor Heroes, as they defeat the evil Sinistrals; after that battle, you start playing as their descendants, who have to stop them from being resurrected. And then there's the prequel, Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals, which tells the entire story of the Precursor Heroes from the first game.
- Terra, Aqua and Ven from Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep are the precursors to Sora and Riku in the Kingdom Hearts series. They were who Xigbar was referring when he told Sora that "he wasn't half the hero the others were."
- Lunar: The Silver Star has the Four Heroes — Dragonmaster Dyne, Hell Mel, Lemia and Ghaleon, four warriors who fought to protect the goddess Althena against the Vile Tribe's hordes. During the course of the game, it is eventually discovered that one of them is Not Quite Dead, and a second is the game's main villain.
- The Fable I game references plenty, particularly the Archon, who was the player character's uber-heroic ancestor. In turn, the player character serves as a Precursor Hero to his descendant, who is the main character of Fable II. In turn, the PC is the parent of Fable III's player character.
- The Council of the Nine in Lusternia. They were the Vernal Gods who originally sealed away the five great Soulless Gods. They stand sentinel today as Avechna the Avenger, and are periodically reawoken if a Soulless manages to seep out of its prison.
- The four Nord heroes who originally sealed Alduin away in The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim.
- Red essentially counts as this in Pokémon Gold and Silver and the remakes. There's several references to another trainer who defeated Giovanni and Team Rocket three years before.
- The Six Heroes of BlazBlue sealed the apocalpyse-bringing Black Beast 100 years ago, and have mostly become the stuff of legends. That said, a disturbingly large number of them keep popping up in some way, shape, or form. "Bloodedge" a time displaced Ragna fought the Black Beast and rendered it dormant at the cost of his own life, thus buying the Six Heroes the time they needed to create the Nox Nyctores that sealed the Black Beast. Unlike the Six Heroes, Bloodedge's role was unknown to all but his closest friends.
- Homestuck has a whole chain of these. The pre-Scratch trolls reset reality, thereby becoming Precursor Heroes to the post-scratch trolls both in and out of Paradox Space. The trolls themselves become Precursor Heroes to the kids by creating their reality... who they then team up with, because Paradox Space is Exactly What It Says on the Tin. The kids then reset reality, becoming precursor heroes to a new set of kids.
- As of the 2013-2014 Gigapause, all four sets are ... well, not alive, technically, in some cases ... but at least around and active. And there's a new set, kind of, though one of them has been around for a while, and the exact relationship between them and the others is even more complicated.
- The Order of the Scribble from The Order of the Stick.
- The Powerpuff Girls
- One episode began in prehistoric times, depicting a trio of Powerpuff Cavegirls who accidentally sealed the bad guy and his mammoth in ice until he was thawed out in the present day. There was a prehistoric Mayor as well.
- The Steampuff Girls, who battled the Mojo Kid in the Old West?
- Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated reveals that another group of teens called Mystery Inc. existed before Scooby and the gang, until they mysteriously vanished. Fred likes the name enough to adopt it, and the main plot of the series is finding out what happened to them. As of this writing, we only know what happened to their Team Pet, Professor Pericles. He's...changed.
- We now know Pericles and Fred Jones Senior ran them out of town by threatening their parents. Now Ricky (Shaggy counterpart) is the somewhat sinister Mr. E; Cassidy (Velma counterpart) is the current team's secretive associate Angel Dynamite; and Brad and Judy (Fred and Daphne counterparts) are Fred's real parents.
- "This has all happened before" is one of the Arc Words of this series, and it doesn't just mean the previous Mystery Inc.. There were at least six precursor groups, all composed of four humans and a Team Pet, and the ur-example to date is "The Hunters of Secrets" from "ancient" South-America. This is all the doing of an ancient Sealed Evil in a Can that repeats the pattern to create the pawns, who will set it free. Seems like it repeated the plan one times too many, though.
- Some versions of the Masters of the Universe canon have He-Ro, a guy very similar to He-Man, running around and defeating things.
- Even bigger one is Lord Greyskull, creator of Castle Greyskull and Ethernia's first legendary hero. Who looks exactly like He-Man - when He-Man yells By the power of Greyskull! he isn't reffering to the castle, but him and is granted his body and powers.
- Princesses Celestia and Luna defeated Discord and King Sombra over a thousand years before My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic starts.