This is CreatorWorship taken UpToEleven. When someone makes a sequel to a popular work which they did not create, and it is completely savaged by fans.

Sometimes a JustifiedTrope because it may be that the original creator is the only one who knew the work, the world and the characters well enough to "do it right."

Can be considered a form of JumpingTheShark, only with that trope, the creator him/herself can do it. If there's a FranchiseZombie, people may claim this.

Contrast MyRealDaddy, where the fandom prefers a version of a work or character ''not'' made by the original creator.


[[folder: Anime and Manga]]
* ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' has some fans who insist that the AlternateUniverse shows are all crap because YoshiyukiTomino had nothing to do with them (ignoring the fact that ''Anime/TurnAGundam'' was not only his baby, but acknowledges everything that came before). Some take it a step further and say The Creator Does It Right Only When He's Depressed, savaging ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamZZ Gundam ZZ]]'' (made to clear up the gloom from ''[[Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam Zeta Gundam]]'').
* The 2003 ''Anime/FullmetalAlchemist'' series has gotten hit with this with the conclusion of the manga and the second anime adaptation. The first anime series split off from the manga half way through and ended up creating its own original storyline. This storyline took the CharacterDevelopment of several of the main characters in a different direction than the manga. As a result... Some fans of the manga have now adapted this mindset.
* One could perhaps say this about anime {{Filler}} in general. No matter what the series, it's exceptionally rare for fans to feel that a filler arc is as good as the original manga.
** To say nothing of non-canon anime movies. For example, the non-canon movies from the ''Franchise/OnePiece'' franchise are barely acknowledged by the fandom, the exceptions only being the fourth and sixth movies, with the seventh and eighth not counting because they were compressed retellings of previous arcs. When Oda actually penned a movie himself (''Anime/OnePieceFilmStrongWorld''), it was regarded as the best ''One Piece'' movie ever and universally praised by the fandom (it also helped that it was canon). The next movie he wrote, ''Anime/OnePieceFilmZ'', was similarly praised, though it wasn't canon (it was supposed to be, but the story would cause too many plot holes in the main canon timeline, so Oda decided not to include it).

[[folder: Comic Books]]
* This is the general opinion about ''ComicBook/TheSpirit'' comics not written and drawn by Creator/WillEisner. There's some conflict about whether the strips drawn under Eisner's supervision but not personally by him are up to standard, but much less about the several attempts to revive the character after his death.
* Some of the ''ComicBook/BeforeWatchmen'' miniseries might be considered exceptions - ''Minute Men'' and ''Silk Spectre'' were fairly well-received by critics. (Interestingly, both were done by Darwyn Cooke, who also did some acclaimed work on the Spirit as well.)
* Creator/SteveGerber's comic, ''ComicBook/HowardTheDuck'', is considered a classic. Howard comics not made by Gerber? Not so much.
* Creator/BrianKVaughan and ''ComicBook/{{Runaways}}''. As soon as he left, it went downhill.
* The ''{{ComicBook/Asterix}}'' books written by Albert Uderzo after the death of Creator/ReneGoscinny have been less well received.

* ''Film/JurassicParkIII'' is held by some to be the worst film in the ''Franchise/JurassicPark'' franchise. Incidentally, it was the one film Creator/StevenSpielberg did not direct, as well as the first not even nominally based on a Creator/MichaelCrichton novel.
* Out of the four ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' films released from 1989 to 1997, the first two directed by Creator/TimBurton were considered the best. And for ''very'' good reasons.
* The first two ''Film/XMen'' films were directed by Creator/BryanSinger, while the third one, ''Film/XMenTheLastStand'', was helmed by Brett Ratner, and is considered by many fans to be a huge step down in quality. Add that [[Film/XMenFirstClass the next X-Men movie which didn't divide opinions]] was produced and co-written by Singer...
** Cemented with ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'' by having Singer back in the director's chair and getting an overwhelmingly positive reception, with many calling it the best in the franchise so far. Its success has reinforced the sentiment among a lot of fans that Singer is the TeamDad of the movie series (with ''Film/XMenFirstClass'' director Matthew Vaughn as the CoolUncle, and the aforementioned Brett Ratner as the BabysitterFromHell).
*** Subsequently, any non-Marvel Studios film featuring Marvel characters are regarded as inferior and bastardizations of the source material, and that only Marvel Studios can treat them right. This has been retroactively applied to works like all the X-Men films, which have been declared to have always been of poor quality.
* Steven Spielberg turned down offers to direct ''Film/{{Jaws 2}}''. Most people feel that the sequels get worse with each subsequent film.
* Several people in the ''Franchise/{{Godzilla}}'' fandom find any of the movies ''not'' directed by Ishiro Honda to be inferior.
** Similarly, some fans automatically dismiss the 2014 ''Film/{{Godzilla|2014}}'', not on the grounds of its own merits or flaws, but because it is not from Creator/{{Toho}}.
* Became an issue on the set of ''Film/{{Aliens}}''. In addition to being a [[PrimaDonnaDirector perfectionist]] and a bit of a JerkAss, Creator/JamesCameron was also hated by the British crew for ''not'' being Creator/RidleyScott. Fan reaction to the film, however, [[EvenBetterSequel was more enthusiastic]].
* Cameron ended up on the opposite side of this trope after ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay''.
* Richard Donner directed ''Film/{{Superman}}'', and got fired halfway through ''Film/SupermanII''. His cut of the sequel, which emerged in 2006, is generally considered better than the theatrical cut by Richard Lester. Of course, in this case it wasn't the name. There was a push to go LighterAndSofter that would culminate in the [[CanonDiscontinuity now disowned]] ''Film/SupermanIII,'' and the Donner cut has less of the slapstick that was forced upon them.
* The planned new ''Film/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' {{Reboot}} film without Creator/JossWhedon is starting to receive this. Ironically, the [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer TV show]] embraced this trope, as it was much, ''much'' better than the movie, which messily chopped up Whedon's original script.
* ''Franchise/ANightmareOnElmStreet'' is a good example, since the best-regarded installments have Creator/WesCraven's involvement ([[Film/ANightmareOnElmStreet1984 the original]] and ''Film/WesCravensNewNightmare'' are written/directed by Craven, while ''[[Film/ANightmareOnElmStreet3DreamWarriors Dream Warriors]]'' was co-written by him).
* The ''Film/{{Saw}}'' sequels since the departure of creators Leigh Whannell and James Wan are highly regarded as significantly inferior to the original trilogy, with the [[SurprisinglyImprovedSequel frequent exception]] of ''Saw VI''.
* [[FlameBait Highly debated]] among fans of ''Franchise/StarWars.'' Many fans believe that ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'' and ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' were much better films than ''Film/ANewHope'' in part because Creator/GeorgeLucas took a more hands-off approach and left them in the hands of other writers and directors. These fans believe that the prequels would have been much better off if Lucas hadn't insisted on writing/directing all of them, in a case of We Love the Creator, but He Doesn't Do It as Well as Others Do. The now famous internet reviews of Website/RedLetterMedia go into this in detail, talking about how Lucas actually didn't have complete creative control over ''A New Hope'' and that this was a good thing; the original iconic Star Destroyer opening scene of ''A New Hope'' is jokingly speculated by the reviewer to be something that George Lucas probably opposed to putting in the film.
* The first ''Film/DieHard'' film is directed by John [=McTiernan=]. All of the sequels [[ContestedSequel are contested]], to some extent. ''With A Vengeance'', again directed by [=McTiernan=], is the least contested.
* ''Film/TheBourneSeries'': ZigZagged with MyRealDaddy, as one may argue that the Bourne series [[HasTwoMommies has two daddies]] with directors Doug Liman and Paul Greengrass. With ''The Bourne Identity'', Liman gave the film a unique style, but it was Greengrass who would flesh it out in its sequels ''The Bourne Supremacy'' and ''The Bourne Ultimatum'', with Liman still involved as executive producer, garnering even greater acclaim. But when Greengrass turned down the offer to direct ''The Bourne Legacy'', Creator/MattDamon left with him, saying he wouldn't do any more movies without him, and Liman left too. This is part of why ''Legacy'' hasn't been as well-received as its predecessors.

* The ''Literature/JamesBond'' novels written after Creator/IanFleming's death are nowhere near as famous as the ones Ian Fleming wrote (nor as typically well-received). Of course, there wasn't really any other way around the AuthorExistenceFailure.
* Frank Herbert's ''Franchise/{{Dune}}'' series was taken over by his son after the former's death, based on his father's notes. Despite this, many fans suggest stopping after ''Chapterhouse: Dune'', Frank's final Dune work (other fans suggest stopping after the original ''Dune'').
* This was one of the reasons Series/TheDresdenFiles failed compared to the [[Literature/TheDresdenFiles books]]. Most fans did not see the show as good without Creator/JimButcher.
* At least a significant portion of the Creator/DouglasAdams fans out there were not at all satisfied with ''Literature/AndAnotherThing'', which was written by Creator/EoinColfer several years after Adams' death.
* ''Franchise/ConanTheBarbarian''. To the most visible portion of the fanbase, the true Conan stories are the ones written by Howard and only by Howard. The post-Howard writers are referred to as "Conantics," and InternetBackdraft ensues if you admit to liking any of the books by Lin Carter or the others. (The films, curiously, don't receive nearly as much backlash.)
* Creator/HPLovecraft is often seen as the best writer of the Franchise/CthulhuMythos literature. Fellow authors like Creator/AugustDerleth who carried on writing literature based on the mythos are derided by some as missing the point of the bleak, hopeless outlook on the universe that Lovecraft conveyed.
* Fans generally don't like the ''Literature/DragonridersOfPern'' books written after Creator/{{Anne McCaffrey}} died.
* Books that get [[TheFilmOfTheBook turned into movies]] are nearly 100% this.
** Some are just horrible, like the ''[[Literature/InheritanceCycle Eragon]]'' film or the ''[[Literature/TheBooksOfEmber City of Ember]]'' movie, a few are average like ''Literature/PercyJacksonAndTheOlympians'' or ''Literature/{{Twilight}}''. Even the well-received book movies, such as ''Literature/HarryPotter'' or ''Literature/TheHungerGames'', get complaints.
** ''Twilight'' has a rather interesting inversion in some circles, where folks hate the books but find the movies to be SoBadItsGood. Most of those people found that both parts of ''Breaking Dawn'' lacked the enjoyable {{narm}} of the first three movies, and those were the ones that Meyer had direct input into, as a producer.
** Can be averted depending on the source material; less-than-great books have [[AdaptationDisplacement often made great movies]]. ''Film/TheBridgeOnTheRiverKwai'', ''Film/TheGodfather'' and ''Film/TheSearchers'' for three noteworthy examples.
* The sequel series to ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfAmber'' written after Creator/RogerZelazny's death is universally regarded as FanonDiscontinuity. This stance is considerably helped by the fact that several of Zelazny's friends have publicly stated that abhorred the idea of anyone else writing canonical stories in the Amber 'verse.

[[folder: Live Action Television]]
* ''Series/{{Supernatural}}''. Many fans blamed the seasons 6 & 7 showrunner Sera Gamble for the show's less-than-stellar state after Eric Kripke, the creator and original showrunner, stepped down (though Kripke still had some input on the show). After season 7, Gamble also stepped down and was replaced by Jeremy Carver. Whether or not he's doing better than her is a bit of a BaseBreaker amongst the fandom, but both are generally seen as inferior to Kripke.
* Arguably also true of ''{{Smallville}}''. After the departure of co-creators and original show runners Alfred Gough and Miles Millar at the end of Season 7, the show seemed to end up in something of a RunningTheAsylum state with what was originally conceived as an accessible story about the future Superman with a loose approach to the mythology degenerating into DC ContinuityPorn.
* ''Series/TheWestWing''. Creator and showrunner AaronSorkin left the show at the end of the fourth season; the fifth season was savaged by critics and fans alike, and while the sixth and seventh were generally accepted as being an improvement, there are many fans of the Sorkin era who simply ignore everything after season four.
* ''GossipGirl''. When Joshua Safran took over as showrunner the quality of the show went drastically downhill and the ratings followed, which led to the majority of the fans complaining about him. It did not help matters that Safran frequently argued with the fans on twitter and that one of the show's directors stated that people who didn't like the changes were not real fans. He left the show after the fifth season, but the damage was done (the next season was its last, and its lowest-rated, and CutShort to boot. And as for the SeriesFinale...).
* A widespread perception of the fourth season of ''{{Community}}'', made after creator Dan Harmon was fired by the network.
* ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'': A {{reboot}} without {{Joss Whedon}}'s involvement has been discussed, and fans are already rejecting it. And so are many of the original actors!
* Played straight by ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'', where the Creator/GeneRoddenberry produced Seasons 1 and 2 are regarded as being way better than Season 3, where Fred Freiberger took over. Inverted by the following ''Star Trek'' shows however, which are widely regarded to have hit their strides after the original creators stepped down from the showrunner role (see MyRealDaddy for more info). There are also some fans who regard only the Roddenberry-produced episodes and [[Film/StarTrekTheMotionPicture film]] as genuine ''Star Trek'', and everything else as brainless trash, though this is very much a minority viewpoint.

[[folder:Multiple Media]]
* ''Franchise/{{Bionicle}}'', as far as the story goes, zig-zags this. The DirectToVideo movies were bashed due not not having been written by Greg Farshtey, but after he took over from Bob Thompson as Story Team leader, Farshtey became something of a ScapegoatCreator, with some fans complaining that he had too much influence on the story. As another inversion, the early ''Mata Nui Online Game'', which was handled almost entirely by an outside-group (Templar Studios), is often seen as the franchise's best piece of media, so many fans are of the opinion that none of the actual creators "got it right" either. And as for the DVD movies themselves, most of the fourth's problems were often attributed to not having been made by the creators of the much more popular (if still not well-loved) first three.

[[folder: Video Games]]
* Most infamous example: ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaCDiGames'' and ''VideoGame/HotelMario'', produced by Phillips. As ''Magazine/NintendoPower'' put it, these games taught us that "nobody should make Creator/{{Nintendo}} games except Nintendo."
* The ''{{Franchise/Halo}}'' franchise ended up being sold to Microsoft in return for {{Creator/Bungie}} being able to split from them. Microsoft created a studio for making new ''Halo'' games called 343 Industries, and BrokenBase ensued.
** The BrokenBase was very much there the moment Bungie itself was brought out by Microsoft. There are those that complain that Microsoft restricted Bungie and forced them to crank out the ''Halo'' series. On the other hand, there is also an equally vocal side saying that Microsoft rescued Bungie from bankruptcy and gave them needed kicks in the ass whenever delays occured in the development of the ''Halo'' games.
* ''VideoGame/DeusExHumanRevolution'' was starting to receive this... until the beta was leaked. Of course, ''VideoGame/DeusEx'' fans should be reminded that the original creators brought us ''VideoGame/DeusExInvisibleWar''.
* ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'' is hated by some of the more die-hard fans of the first two games because it was created by Creator/BethesdaSoftworks and not (the [[AuthorExistenceFailure defunct]]) Creator/BlackIsleStudios. Especially noticeable when you consider that ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' was given a more accepting reception and that some of the [[Creator/ObsidianEntertainment old employees of Black Isle]] incidentally worked on it.
* Most of the ''VideoGame/LegacyOfKain'' series is considered inferior to the original ''Blood Omen'', since its designers - SiliconKnights - were cut out of the loop, the trademark essentially stolen by the publisher.
** And even among fans of the sequels ''Blood Omen 2'' (actually the 4th game in the series) is widely considered the worst. This is also the only game Amy Hennig had no involvement in.
* Many fans of the original ''VideoGame/{{Mafia}}'' dislike ''VideoGame/MafiaII'' particularly because very few of the original staff were on the Mafia II team, and most of them [[UnfortunateImplications left during production]].
* Some fans / tropers think the ''Franchise/FireEmblem'' series has never been the same since the fifth entry, ''Thracia 776''. The reason is due to the departure of series creator Shouzou Kaga.
* Some people felt this way with both the newer ''Franchise/CrashBandicoot'' and ''Franchise/SpyroTheDragon'' games.
* Long-time ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquer'' fans have this in spades. Creator/ElectronicArts bought out the original creators of the series, Westwood Studios, and they have responded extremely negatively to almost all of the changes made to the series. While at times justified, such as the ''Tiberian Twilight'' example, a lot of the time one gets the feeling most of the negative criticism can be cited down to "[[FanDumb it's not made by Westwood, therefore it sucks; EA wants to ruin the series and they must be stopped before they do so, because stupid kids who don't know what they're playing keep buying the games and supporting them]]."
** On the release of ''[[VideoGame/CommandAndConquerRedAlert3 Red Alert 3]]'', these fans claimed that the game had too much blatant {{fanservice}} and [[{{Flanderization}} overdone]] [[HamAndCheese camp]] themes, the [[UsefulNotes/KatanasOfTheRisingSun new faction]] was silly, and [[FelonyMisdemeanor worst of all]], [[ActionGirl Tanya]] was now ''[[AdaptationDyeJob blonde]]''. [[note]] [[SelectiveCondemnation Nevermind that Red Alert 2, which was made by Westwood, had flying saucers and mind-controlled giant squid.]][[/note]]
** Response to ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquerGenerals'' was also extremely poor, due to the game not setting place in the Kane continuity, and the gameplay resembling that of a ''[[Creator/BlizzardEntertainment Blizzard]]'' RTS.
** ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquerTiberianTwilight'' didn't help by EA removing every single staple C&C game mechanic, removing such things as base-building and the CommandAndConquerEconomy, in favour of requisitioning units like ''[[VideoGame/DawnOfWar Dawn of War II]]'' and ''VideoGame/EndWar''.
* Although they did get lots of positive reviews, Creator/ObsidianEntertainment's sequels to two of Creator/BioWare's games, ''VideoGame/NeverwinterNights2'' and ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicII'', still aren't ranked as highly as their predecessors--although this has more to do with them being [[ObviousBeta horribly buggy]] (or, in ''[=KotOR=] II'''s case, unfinished).
* The ''VideoGame/DawnOfWar'' expansion ''Soulstorm'' was not made by Relic, and is coincidentally considered to be SoBadItsGood.
* ''VideoGame/MaxPayne3'' is getting quite a bit of this, due to Remedy having no real involvement with the series.
* The ''VideoGame/MegaMan'' series gets this as well. First there were the official-but-subpar games for the PC and the GameGear that were not developed by Capcom. Most of the later ''VideoGame/MegaManX'' games also tend to receive this treatment, since Keiji Inafune intended to end the series after ''X5'' but it was [[ExecutiveMeddling continued without his knowledge or input]]. And now that Inafune has left Capcom, faith in the series has now dropped to an all-time low; though that may have less to do with Capcom's potential ability to do the series justice, and more to do with the fact the company seems like [[ScrewedByTheNetwork it's trying to bury the series]].
** Averted however with ''VideoGame/MegaManDrWilysRevenge'' and ''VideoGame/MegaManIII''-''[[VideoGame/MegaManV V]]'' for the GameBoy, and the ''VideoGame/MegaManZero'' series on the GameBoyAdvance; while they were outsourced to other developers, the developers in question (Minakuchi Engineering for the Game Boy games and Inti Creates for the ''Zero'' series) actually understood the series, ensuring that the games were well-received by fans.
** And then played straight again with the Game Boy ''VideoGame/MegaManII'', which was not only wasn't made by Capcom, but wasn't made by Minakuchi Engineering either. Instead it was farmed out to Biox, who didn't understand the series at all and ended up producing what is pretty unanimously regarded as the worst 8-bit ''Mega Man'' game. Fortunately, Capcom were smart enough to go back to the original developers for the next three games.
* What many fans think about the modern ''VideoGame/NinjaGaiden'' games, and one of the reasons there was so much skepticism about ''Ninja Gaiden III''-- now led by Yosuke Hayashi, also director of the first two game's [=PS3=] releases and of the NintendoDS episode ''Dragon Sword''. Any game not directed by Tomonobu Itagaki can only be a pale imitation. It doesn't help that before leaving Tecmo, Itagaki himself said that he didn't like [[UpdatedRerelease Sigma]], that [=NG2=] was the definitive version of the game and that he was the only one legitimate to continue the series.
* ''Franchise/SilentHill'', which has become a BrokenBase since the breakup of Team Silent and the series being outsourced to Western development teams. The absence of Akira Yamaoka's soundtrack work on ''Downpour'' is already getting this reaction from some.
* Some of the fans of the first three ''VideoGame/HeroesOfMightAndMagic'' games, developed by New World Computing, aren't too thrilled about the fully-3D ''Heroes V'' (Nival Interactive) and ''Heroes VI'' (Black Hole Entertainment). Of course, there's also ''Heroes IV'', the last game to be developed by NWC, which may fans simply [[FanonDiscontinuity ignore]]. The biggest complaint is not with the gameplay changes but with the fact that the storylines of the last two games have nothing to do with TheVerse of the first four games (and first nine games in the [[VideoGame/MightAndMagic series]] ''Heroes'' was a [[MorePopularSpinoff spin-off]] of).
* When Konami outsourced the development of the two Playstation ''{{VideoGame/Contra}}'' games, ''Contra: Legacy of War'' and ''C: The Contra Adventure'', to Appaloosa, the results were universally regarded as a disaster, mainly due to poor gameplay. Konami realized their mistake, took ''Contra: Shattered Soldier'' into their own hands, [[CanonDiscontinuity and denied the PS games' existence]]. The fans were pleased with the results.
* U.S. Gold and Tiertex, who had licensed ''{{VideoGame/Strider}}'' and other Creator/{{Capcom}} arcade games for European home computer ports, went on to produce a sequel known as ''Strider II'' or ''Strider Returns''. Fans were underwhelmed by the colors, controls, level design, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Strider Hiryu being renamed Strider Hinjo for no reason.]] It was known in some circles as "spectacular crapfest" for these reasons. When Capcom decided to make a sequel themselves, they [[CanonDiscontinuity denied Returns' existence]], which they weren't even involved with anyway, and simply titled the game ''Strider 2''.
* ''Franchise/{{Metroid}}'': Some feel this way about certain games that were made after the death of Creator/GunpeiYokoi. Yokoi himself originally wanted the series to be a nice contained trilogy, so the main series games which were made after (''[[VideoGame/MetroidFusion Fusion]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/MetroidOtherM Other M]]'') received this sentiment.
** The same sentiment was common prior to the release of ''VideoGame/MetroidPrime'', not helped that it was being made by a seemingly failing studio that had released a grand total of zero games. But the game came through, and the rest is history.
* Out of all the ''VideoGame/AgeOfEmpires'' games, the latest, ''Age of Empires Online'' was developed after Ensemble Studios was closed down. Much BrokenBase ensued.
* The 989 Studios-developed ''VideoGame/TwistedMetal III'' and ''4'' received a very mixed reception among the fandom, compared to the [=SingleTrac=]-developed (and their successor companies, Incog Inc. and Eat Sleep Play) games. David Jaffe said that while the 989 games were good games on their own, they were just bad ''Twisted Metal'' games.
** One of the slogans for 1997's ''Critical Depth'' was, "From the Developers Who Know Vehicular Combat!", referring to [=SingleTrac=], the developers of the game.
* ''VideoGame/{{Langrisser}} Millennium'' was developed without the team that had worked on all previous installments of the series. Website/HardcoreGaming101 describes it as "a filthy charlatan, masquerading as an installment in one of strategy gaming's finest series."
* ''VideoGame/{{Freespace}}'' fans have been known to do this ''pre-emptively''. As it stands there is little chance of the series being continued, but ''if'' it did it would probably not be by the original developers (Volition). Some fans have taken the mantra "If it ain't V, it ain't Freespace 3!", as they believe that no one else would ever be able to continue the series satisfactorily.
* After the release of the third ''Franchise/MassEffect'' game and the resulting controversy regarding the endings, many fans were saying that the fault was with Mac Walters, and that Drew Karpyshan, who was the lead writer on the first game and co-lead with Walters for the second but worked on ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic'' instead of ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'', would have presented a more satisfying conclusion.
* ''VideoGame/BioShock2'' Fans and critics alike concluded that it wasn't quite as good as the original, with many attributing this to the fact that it was developed by 2K Marin instead of Irrational Games. Irrational returned to develop ''VideoGame/BioShockInfinite'', which has gained acclaim equal to if not greater than the original.
* While the ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' games directed by Takeshi Yamazaki -- namely ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies'' and the two ''VisualNovel/AceAttorneyInvestigationsMilesEdgeworth'' entries -- have been reasonably well-received, you'd be ''very'' hard-pressed to find any fans who prefer his work over that of the series' creator, Shu Takumi.
* Anco's ''Kick Off'' series of soccer games for the UsefulNotes/{{Amiga}} dropped dramatically in quality when programmer Dino Dini left the company after the second game.
* ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamOrigins'' is regarded by many as the worst of the Arkham series, and is the only game so far not made by Rocksteady. These views [[GameBreakingBug may be justified.]]
* This trope is pretty much exemplified perfectly by the later ''VideoGame/YoshisIsland'' games, all of which were made by Artoon/Arzest instead of Nintendo. None of these games are considered anywhere near as good as the SNES original by Nintendo themselves, partly due to Artoon's staff not really knowing about good game/level design in general.
* A common criticism leveled against ''VideoGame/DarkSoulsII''. Since Miyazaki Hidetaka, the producer of both its prequel ''VideoGame/DarkSouls'' and its spiritual pre-prequel ''VideoGame/DemonsSouls'' is no longer the producer for Dark Souls 2, nearly every fault that Dark Souls 2 has is often blamed on Miyazaki's lack of hands-on influence (whether that is true or not is another matter entirely, considering Miyazaki does have supervisory duty).
* While each ''VideoGame/UmiharaKawase'' game has been developed by an at least nominally different company, the only one made without the participation of original programmer and game designer Kiyoshi Sakai was ''Umihara Kawase Portable'', which fans of the series have widely denounced as a PortingDisaster.
* ''VideoGame/BlasterMaster 2'', outsourced to British developer Software Creations, is a pale shadow of the original game, despite being made for a more powerful console. Creator/{{Sunsoft}} returned to develop the next two ''Blaster Master'' games, which were better received.
* The ''TonyHawksProSkater'' series is a Neversoft creation. However, the company would relegate other companies to work on the various ports of the series, and said ports are nowhere near as high quality as the ones done by Neversoft. For many fans, 'Shaba Games' brings to mind cheapness, poor graphics and glitches, most notably in the PS1 port of Tony Hawks Pro Skater 4. Neversoft pulled out of the series entirely after ''Proving Ground'', and Activision gave the following installments to other subsidiaries to the point ''Ride'' and ''Shred'' [[FranchiseKiller killed the series]] - aside from a remake of the original and a phone-only game.
** Neversoft was on the other side of the spectrum with ''GuitarHero'', which they inherited from Harmonix once it was sold to Viacom and went on to create ''RockBand''. Their games, which started with ''Guitar Hero III'', had many good reviews and even better sales, but are still divisive exactly for turning the series into a CashCowFranchise that Activision ran to the ground.
* ''MonkeyIsland'' - Ron Gilbert worked on the first two games, which are beloved by fans, after which he left Lucasarts. The first game he didn't work on, The Curse Of Monkey Island, was well received and even Gilbert says he enjoyed it, though noting he had a different plan for Monkey Island 3. The fourth game, Escape From Monkey Island, however, was a disaster, and had many fans feeling that Lucasarts were doing a disservice to Gilbert's creation. This was largely due to the glitchiness of the game (which was ironed out somewhat in the PS2 port), the non-point and click controls, PolygonCeiling graphics, the retconning, the unfunny and stereotypical humor, the reliance on time and memory based puzzles, and nonsensical portions like Monkey Kombat. Ron Gilbert was involved with the first two games' remakes and oversaw some of TalesOfMonkeyIsland (which was a step up from Escape, though not to the degree most fans wanted), but doesn't have particular interest in working on the next parts.
* ''DukeNukem3D'''s Nuclear Winter expansion pack is generally considered the worst, and is also the only one 3D Realms didn't work on. Though it's not without reason - the first two levels are just slight rehashes of the first two levels in the base game in reverse order, and the music for every stage is Christmas carols. The level designs are also fairly boring in comparison to the other packs, and some parts are fairly similar to other levels from the original game.
* In 2014, Natsume developed and released ''[[VideoGame/HarvestMoon Harvest Moon: The Lost Valley]]'', as they lost the rights to import future ''Harvest Moon'' titles from the original developer Marvelous to Creator/XSEEDGames, but still having the rights to the name (this meant that the most recent title ''Connect to the New World'' is renamed ''Story of Seasons''.) However recepting for ''The Lost Valley'' had been met with negative reception.

[[folder: Western Animation]]
* There's a subset of animation fans who feel this way about Creator/{{Disney}} after [[Creator/WaltDisney Walt]] and Roy died, particularly about the films released between the [[Disney/TheAristocats early '70s]] and the [[Disney/TheBlackCauldron mid '80s]] before the older, Walt-era management was shown the door and the new, outside management took over the studio. Anything made from the [[Disney/TheGreatMouseDetective late '80s]] on tends to get mixed reactions, with the general consensus seeming to be that the work overall is an improvement over the early '70s to mid '80s films, but it just [[NoTrueScotsman "isn't Disney"]].
** And then [[BrokenBase within that subset]] there seems to be a split opinion over whether or not the films made with Creator/JohnLasseter in control of the studio, including ''Disney/ThePrincessAndTheFrog'', ''Disney/{{Tangled}}'', ''Disney/WreckItRalph'' and ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' are a step closer to Walt Disney's style or a step further away from it.
* Similarly, not many fans cared for the subsequent incarnations of WesternAnimation/OswaldTheLuckyRabbit (by Charles Mintz and Creator/WalterLantz), preferring the originals done by Walt Disney and UbIwerks.
* ''WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}}'' fans got this attitude after Disney tried to do a season without GregWeisman and botched it up.
* ''WesternAnimation/TheRenAndStimpyShow'' after Creator/JohnKricfalusi was sacked.
* Only the original ''WesternAnimation/{{Ben 10}}'' series involved Creator/ManOfActionStudios. The sequels, ''WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce'' and ''WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien'' are usually held to be of lower quality thanks to DwayneMcDuffie not really getting the series, despite the high quality of his [[MilestoneComics previous]] [[JusticeLeagueUnlimited work]].
* This is most people's reactions to sequels to Creator/DonBluth movies. ''WesternAnimation/AnAmericanTail: Fievel Goes West'' gets a pass sometimes, but notably Creator/StevenSpielberg was still involved in the production as he was with the first movie.
* After Creator/LaurenFaust lessened her role on the show, ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'''s second season has received its fair share of mixed reception episodes.
** Reactions to the third season, which had no input from Faust at all, are even more divided.
* The 1990s ''Franchise/{{Tintin}}'' cartoon produced by the Canadian animation studio Nelvana is a curious variant in that it was created long after creator Herge died. However, the cartoon is still much better received by fans than earlier adaptations, in no small part because it [[AdaptationDistillation generally stuck to adapting Herge's original comic albums]] instead of coming up with its own plots the way other adaptations have done.
* ''WesternAnimation/AvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'' fans rarely think highly of episodes written by Creator/ManOfActionStudios instead of in-house at Creator/MarvelAnimation.
* The WesternAnimation/SupermanTheatricalCartoons produced and directed by Creator/MaxAndDaveFleischer, respectively, broke new ground for the ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'' mythos and provided strong inspiration to other animators. The cartoons produced by FamousStudios don't have as high a reputation.
** To only a slightly lesser extent, the Fleischers' ''ComicStrip/{{Popeye}}'' cartoons. Many of those are considered to be among the created classic cartoons even made, while the cartoons produced by Famous Studios are notorious for being StrictlyFormula and heavy use of RecycledInSPACE.
* The consensus on ''ComicStrip/TheBoondocks'' Season 4 is that the show only works when Aaron [=McGruder=] is at the helm.
* In an interesting case that actually does mix in a bit of MyRealDaddy, while Ciro Nieli has remained on the new [[WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2012 Ninja Turtles]] cartoon, Joshua Sternin and J.R. Ventimilia, who were also heavily involved with its development as well as the original head writers for the series, both took off after the first season was over. Opinions on seasons two and more recently three have notably been much more divided between fans.