Magpies as Portents
aka: One For Sorrow Two For Joy
One for sorrow, two for joy, Three for a girl, and four for a boy, Five for silver, six for gold, Seven for a secret never to be told.
— Nursery Rhyme
(one of many variations, this one popularised as the theme song to Magpie*
There are a number of superstitions surrounding magpies, black and white birds that feature in a lot of stories (especially in the British Isles). These include, as the rhyme
indicates, that they are omens (for good or ill) of the future and that the bad luck of a lone magpie must be warded off with a ritual of some sort. Some of the "warding off bad luck" superstitions are quick and only require a simple salute, while others are a bit more eccentric, involving pinching, spitting or saying certain phrases. The idea that magpies are omens of the future has led to a flock of them being called a "tidings of magpies".
Magpies are members of the corvid family and relatives of Ravens and Crows
, both in Real Life
and as tropes
. The rhyme—in all its manifold variations—is also used for crows, on occasion.
Note: This trope is not about magpies per se
, but about the association of certain numbers of magpies with good or bad luck, and the rituals for warding the bad luck off.
See also Thieving Magpie
, which is about magpies' compulsion to steal, particularly shiny objects.
- Invoked in The Sandman
Delirium, in The Wake: One for sorrow, two for sorrow, three for sorrow, four for for for I don't know. But I'm bored of sorrow, five for three two one, six for gold, seven for a magpie who tells me where to go...''
- In the earlier story "Parliament of Rooks", Eve sings the rhyme while holding the infant Daniel. Abel finishes with the last line, then adds, "It's true, you know."
- In The Crow, the rhyme is referenced (with blackbirds in the place of magpies) by Eric as he prepares to kill a bar full of thugs, and capped with a classic line.
Eric Draven: Seven blackbirds in a tree, count them and see what they be. One for sorrow, two for joy, three for a girl and four for a boy. Five for silver, six for gold, seven for a secret that's never been told. You're all going to die.
- Journey into Mystery begins with 7 magpies on a quest after the demise of Loki at the end of Siege. The seventh is the only one to make it to their destination.
- Also, Ikol (a magpie-shaped remnant of the old Loki) tells kid Loki the magpie rhyme at the beginning of the Everything Burns crossover, and sets the record straight about it.
Ikol: Humans see groups of magpies. Magpies don't. Magpies know they stand alone. ... There is only ever one for sorrow.
- Ashe Corven of the movie The Crow: City of Angels references a variant of this rhyme as he's trashing the bad guys of a strip booth establishment where his second target is, using crows in place of magpies.
- Snow White & the Huntsman: Magpies are all over this film. One appears right before Snow White is to be led to the Queen and murdered, two appear later to lead her to her horse. Basically, any time something happens, either one or two magpies will appear to portend it, whichever is appropriate. Not that anybody comments on this.
- Several versions of the rhyme occur in Terry Pratchett's Carpe Jugulum. It's explained that none of them work very well, because nobody knows the version the magpies use. Also, the "modern" vampires of that book shape-shift into magpies rather than bats, which is a pun on their family name (de Magpyr).
- In "The Folklore of Discworld", Pterry bemoans the fact that Britain used to have hundreds of regional variations on this rhyme, but nowadays if you ask anyone they'll all give you the version from Magpie. He got to know the book's co-writer, Jacqueline Simpson, because she answered "which one?" to the question "do you know the magpie song."
- There's a book called One For Sorrow, Two For Joy, by Clive Woodall, about more-or-less-anthropomorphic birds. It's a little like Watership Down, but with birds. The villains are magpies.
- A magpie literally named One For Sorrow appears as an assistant to and messenger of the guardian of the old animal highways in The Wild Road. You can pretty much guess what happens to him based on his name.
- Not only this, but Cornish cat Pengelly mentions a (cat-adjusted) version of the rhyme that goes: "One's sorrow, two's mirth, three's a mating, four's a birth, five's a naming, six a dearth, seven's heaven, eight is hell, and nine's the devil, his own sel'".
- The Mercedes Lackey story "Counting Crows" has a different version: "One for sorrow, two for mirth, three for a wedding, four for a birth", IIRC.
- The beginning of Wolfram von Eschenbach's Parzival compares the unsteady man, in whom good and evil are mixed, to a magpie, which is half black, half white.
- Star In The Storm by Joan Hiatt Harlow uses "One for sadness, two for mirth; three for marriage, four for birth; five for laughing, six for crying; seven for sickness, eight for dying; nine for silver, ten for gold; eleven for a secret that will never be told."
- In Michael Flynn's In the Lion's Mouth, Shadows' subordinates, in black and white, are called magpies. When one is always in Donovan's line-of-sight, he feels uneasy, knowing the old Terran belief that a single magpie is bad luck.
- Weathercock by Glen Duncan has the Catholic protagonist (plagued by a case of Chronic Villainy, to put it mildly) suffer periodic intimations of evil. Outside a church, he is visited by no less than nine magpies. He tries to remember the rhyme, but to his unease can only recall the more modern version from TV's Magpie. Fridge Brilliance or Fridge Horror, should the reader remember that in most versions of the rhyme, nine magpies signify the presence of the devil.
Music And Sound Effects
- Magpie was the name of a kids' TV show on ITV circa the 1970s/80s (which was pretty much a Blue Peter lookalike). The theme song used a version of the rhyme as its lyrics (see beginning of this page), and the show's mascot was a cartoon magpie named Murgatroyd, who looked too fat to fly.
- A news discussion Top Gear once went on about how dangerous magpies are while driving because of gestures, but none of which the presenters could agree on which one was correct. Richard Hammond's was the most confusing; it turns out rather than picking one of the many variations to ward off bad luck, he chose them all.
- The rhyme itself appears in the song "A Murder of One" by Counting Crows. The rhyme is also the origin of the band's name.
- Seanan McGuire's Filk Song "Counting Crows" opens with a version of the rhyme, and continues on the theme. Chorus:
In mercy's shadow, nothing grows./And she's running hard now, counting crows.
- Similarly, Vixy and Tony's Filk Song Thirteen asks what happens when there are more than seven:
Count my brothers and count my sisters, we'll tell your fortune and we'll tell you true/But the path's all covered in claws and feathers, Magpie, there's too many of you...
- Patrick Wolf has a song that quotes the aforementioned rhyme as the last stanza. Unsurprisingly the song itself is named Magpie
- "Two Magpies" from Paul McCartney's album Electric Arguments features lines from the rhyme. Unsurprisingly, it's extremely catchy.
- The famous rhyme, with many variations. (Sometimes quoted for Ravens and Crows—but chiefly magpies.)
- "... Eight's a wish, and nine a kiss / Ten is a bird you must not miss."
- "... Eight for heaven, nine for hell / And ten for the devil's own sel'."
- "One for sorrow, two for mirth / Three for a wedding, four for a birth."
- "... Eight for a letter over the sea / Nine for a lover, as true as can be."
- "... Five for England, six for France / seven for a fiddler, eight for a dance."
- In The Secret World, this rhyme is used as a clue in a quest to solve a long-ago murder mystery. To solve it, you have to be dead at the time.
- This took place in India in 1878. Sir Louis Cavagnari was to lead an embassy to Kabul. Earl Roberts records in his memoir, "As we [met before the embassy left], curiously enough, we came across a solitary magpie, ... Cavagnari pointed it out and begged me not to mention the fact of his having seen it to his wife, as she would be sure to consider it an unlucky omen....my heart sank as I wished Cavagnari good-bye. When we had proceeded a few yards in our different directions, we both turned round, retraced our steps, shook hands once more, and parted for ever." About two months later "...telegrams were received..., telling of the Mission [in Kabul] having been overwhelmed and every member of it cruelly massacred..."