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The practice of giving inappropriate firearms to characters or factions in a TV show or movie. They're inappropriate either because this group wouldn't have access to it (like Soviet soldiers wielding Uzis), or because the producers can't be arsed to make special props for their Sci Fi setting and just used a real gun. If they show up often enough, dialogue will point out it's an entirely different gun, since it has some Techno Babble name.
Needless to say, it isn't restricted to guns, but they are always the first and most notable victim. Which is strange, as it's generally a lot easier to get a MP-40 than to arrange for a Tiger tank to show up in your production.
Named for what someone will exclaim when spotting the Sci Fi version, since it will almost always be a Rare Gun. This is not necessarily a bad thing, since gun design is practical and the ergonomics are unlikely to change in the future; the production crew making its own design might end up giving you something like the horrible phasers of Star Trek The Next Generation, which looked like electric shavers, lacked sights, and were so unergonomic that, for the war arc of Deep Space Nine, which involved many gun battles, the production team were forced to make more practical designs; the SFX team had problems adding in energy beam effects in post-production because the actor couldn't aim them properly at targets ten feet away. (In fairness, this was because the phaser models had been subject to Executive Meddling by Gene Roddenberry at the start of Next Gen`s run, emphasising the pacifistic nature of early Next Gen by making the weapons look as un-weapon-like as possible; early production notes published recently include plans for much more sensible pistol-shaped phasers).
Another reason this can happen (especially for things more expensive than guns) is that the "right" weapon may not be available, and an incorrect version easier to come by than it would be to make a replica. For example, Chinese AK clones commonly stand in for the real thing in American movies made during the Cold War. An extreme case would be armoured vehicles; there is only one WW 2-vintage Tiger tank that still runs in the entire world and leasing a running mock-up from a private collection would be far more expensive than simply using some other tank and hoping the audience doesn't figure it out. This goes even more for ships; before modern CGI, movies were often forced to either use contemporary warships [even with a stratospheric budget, Pearl Harbor's Japanese carrier set was built on the deck of a modern carrier, made obvious by the visible steam catapult runs] or unconvincing models.
While guns are a fairly mature technology with most new designs being more ergonomic then mechanically different, some shows will push this and it gets unrealistic when a gun is still in use in an entirely different universe, 1,000,000,000 years from now, or 100 years before it was designed.
See also AKA 47, Just Plane Wrong and Failed To Pay Shipping Charges.
Examples:
- The king of this trope would have to be the M1911 service pistol (usually the M1911A1 variant specifically), which regularly gets star billing playing itself. In series as diverse as the Honor Harrington novels (set in the year four thousand or so) and John Barnes' Timeline Wars, protagonists routinely carry this gun as their personal signature. Nevermind that Honor's pulser can rip apart a tank, and Mark Strang's SHAKK can do so at six miles, with two thousand homing rounds it can synthesize from scrap metal.
- To be fair, Dame Harrington is in the SCA, and thus practices the use of such an antique weapon.
- Honor Harrington's M1911 was a gift. Three factors, her Uncle was in the SCA so she'd learned to fire "chem burner" guns at a young age, Dueling pistols on Manticore are 10mm "chem burner" automatics (because a hit from one can be survivable and the preferred dueling protocol is a single shot each), and the gift was from the Protector of Grayson (a planet whose tech base had become low enough before their alliance with Manticore they couldn't produce small enough grav-drivers to make pulser and so had to use "chem burners). She did kill a mass murderer with her M1911 because as it uses chemical propellant it could be concealed without an scan for energy sources picking it up, but her signature weapon is probably either David Weber's latest "uber tech" for slaughtering Havenite ships or the pulser built into her artificial arm.
- Also justified for Strang: he starts as a historian and bodyguard in our present (subjectively before being drafted by the Time Police), where he uses the M1911 because of its durability and intimidation value. And if you loose your BFG in the past, it helps to have a backup your can find bullets for.
- A very common one is use of the wrong AK variant. Sometimes you see Soviet/ex-Soviet soldiers in a reasonably modern setting wielding AK-47s. In reality, they'd been mostly replaced in Soviet service by the AK-74 (which can be identified by a smaller, less curved orange-coloured magazine and use of a smaller bullet). Lord of War is an example. Recently, however, 7,62-mm AKs, either former mainstays of the AKM line, or more modern AK-10x series, made a resurgence, after combat experience in Afghanistan and Chechnya demonstrated that the lighter bullet of AK-74 tends to ricochet at the slightest prodding, and thus unsuitable in the forested areas. Thus there can be some unexpected aversion, when a bumbling producer who just doesn't care accidentally gets things straight.
Anime/Manga
- Cowboy Bebop is set in a future with space gates, large spaceships and advanced almost-sentient computers, yet every personal weapon seen is either very similar or exactly identical to present-day ones. Spike himself uses a Jericho 941. The anime tries to convey the idea that it's set in a somewhat realistic future, so it makes sense that there are no blasters a la Star Wars and that energy weapons are few and far inbetween (it is never explained how Spike got a plasma cannon on his Swordfish when even police fighters are restricted to machine guns), but you'd think personal firearms would have evolved at least a little. Plenty of the main cast's weapons are out of date now.
- Also consider the ease in which they could've inserted fictional guns, given how it's animated.
- Yes but everything in Cowboy Bebop is retro! (Buildings are all contemporary Earth, for instance).
- To be fair, during the film, a female character wields a strange, angular firearm with a delayed gas suppression system. She fires the gun almost silently, and seconds later, the gun ejects a slow hiss. Mind you the majority of the gun wielders in the show are criminals or people on the edge of the law, and few thieves and mobsters walk around with brand new Springfield X Ds. More often than not, they wield used weapons, favored for reliable, ease of purchase, or affordability. It's not beyond reason that they use old tried and true weapons. and lets not forget some characters, i.e. Le Fou, possess some exotic and insane firepower, along side MAC 10's and the like.
- It's worth noting that Spike's dated Jericho can fire in the vacuum of space. The pistol might be mundane, but the bullets are better than what you can buy today.
- As I understand it, there is no reason modern firearm ammunition shouldn't work in a vacuum. While there is no air (and thus no oxygen) in space, the propellant already contains oxygen, as the timescales involved mean that oxygen in the atmosphere won't reach the propellant fast enough to be of use.
- Yes, but hard vacuum can wreak havoc on other things on the gun. The extremes of temperature in space (whether hot or cold) would not be good on the gun's lubricant. And an un-lubricated gun means moving parts that don't work, meaning it doesn't fire.
- Spaceis Cold: Actually, space doesn't work like that. Since there is no air, there is nothing to transfer the coldness to the lubricant other than a lack of ambient heat. SO, while eventually the lubricant will cool down, it will take hours for the heat of the lubricant to transfer. Any modern firarm will work fine in space if it is only exposed for a limited time.
- You forget that there's also nothing to radiate the heat away from the gun. So, yes, while the gun can probably get off a few shots it would quickly overheat, causing the barrel and other parts of the gun to expand, redering the moving parts unable to move. Space is still not a good place to use regular firearms.
- In Gankutsuou, which takes place in the 50th century, Danglars uses a golden PPK, while Morcerf appears to have a brass P28.
Film
- Most pre-90's war movies, extending to nearly every piece of military equipment featured. Often, the equipment in question isn't even from the same time period.
- The "German" tanks featured in the 1970 film Patton were quite obviously modern day (at the time) American made Spanish tanks, amusingly named M48 Pattons.
- Similarily, in the 1965 film Battle of the Bulge the "King Tiger" tanks were played by M47 Pattons (an earlier model) and the "Shermans" were actually M24 light tanks (which actually did serve in WWII and a very small number fought in the actual battle, but are far less iconinc than the Shermans).
- In The Big Red One, Italian and German armored fighting vehicles are portrayed by Israeli "Super Shermans" (much of the movie was filmed in Israel).
- In The Beast of War the eponymous beast is supposedly a T-62, but is in fact a Ti-67; a T-54/55 captured by Israel from Egypt or Syria, refitted with new armament, seats, optics et al., and pressed into Israeli service. (Ironically, the Israelis also captured actual T-62s, but considered the design to be flawed beyond redemption, and used the lot for target practice before melting them down into razor blades.)
- In the film Aliens:
- The M41A pulse-rifle is made from a Thompson SMG, its grenade launcher made from a Remington 870 shotgun inside the shell of a Franchi SPAS-12.
- The smartguns are each made from an MG-42 machine gun mated with a Steadicam camera harness and some pieces of a bicycle.
- The flamethrower built on a cut-up M16 receiver with an M203 handguard.
- The sentry guns are built around WW 1 Maxim LMG 08/15 machine guns.
- Hicks carries as a backup an Ithaca 'Stakeout' shotgun, and the Marines' sidearm, called the VP 70, is a real, unaltered weapon. The Sulaco's weapon racks are also filled with unaltered modern weapons; M16s, Colt Commando rifles, and Enfield L85s. Vasquez also uses a Smith & Wesson Model 39 pistol at one point.
- Alan Dean Foster hangs a lamp on the first of these in his novelization of Aliens, when one of the Marines asks Hicks if he got his pump-action shotgun from a museum.
- Bear in mind that the gun props in Aliens look suitably futuristic enough that they actually avert this trope for anyone who's not a firearms expert. The M41A has become iconic in its own right.
- The Stormtrooper rifles in Star Wars were made from the British Sterling L2A3 SMGs with added scopes and radiator fins made from windshield wiper blades.
- The Rebel troopers' blaster pistols seen during the boarding of the Tantive IV and in the Battle of Hoth are also modified Sterling SM Gs.
- Han Solo's gun, the Blastech DL-44, is a German Broomhandle Mauser with a scope and a fire extinguisher dispersion nozzle on the barrel.
- Elite Stormtrooper's DLT-19 heavy blasters are MG 34s and their T-21 light repeating blasters are Lewis guns, both with little to no modifications.
- In the Battle of Hoth, modified MG 42 show up on the Imperial side, while a few Rebel troops field modified Sturmgewehr 44s.
- The Jawas' blasters are modified Lee-Enfield rifles.
- In the book The Making of Star Wars George Lucas says he used modified firearms for rayguns because he wanted them to look real (e.g. scratched and battered) rather than plastic toys or props.
- In addition, using actual firearms firing blanks allowed ILM to accurately time where to insert the blaster bolts; also, the sound of the blank round firing was integrated into the sound of the blaster (the "peew" effect being achieved by smacking a taut steel cable with a hammer).
- Boba Fett's EE-3 carbine rifle, is a Webley & Scott No.1 Mark 1 Flare Gun used by British paratroopers in WWII. That's right, Boba Fett uses a flare gun!
- The vehicles are all decorated with model kit parts for detail. The Jawa Sandcrawler has the running gear of a Sherman hidden under plastic covers, and various jet engines, truck engine blocks, battleship components, bits of tanks and so on decorate the spaceships.
- The movie Pitch Black featured a shortened SPAS-12. It either shot slugs or was an energy weapon in the movie.
- In Escape From New York the United States Police are armed with M16s with the handguards removed (which would burn the hands of the people using them).
- In Rambo movies, you will notice many.
- Russian helicopters fitted with western weapons (such as the FN MAG machine guns). The helicopter in the second movie was also a fake; a prop nose built onto a Western helicopter which apparently made it extremely difficult to fly.
- ZSU-23 Shilka replica made using M113 chassis in Rambo 3.
- 'AK-74' and 'AKSU-74' assault rifles that uses magazines for 7.62x39mm. To be exact,those guns are AKM, AKMSU, or some chinese AK replica modified (such as adding the muzzle brake) to look like AK-74 and AKSU-74 since Hollywood did not have access to those weapons at those times.
- A fake SVD made from a Valmet with an SVD-style stock in the second movie.
- M2 Browning heavy machine guns fitted with prop parts to look like Soviet heavy machine guns, with the exception of the parts of Rambo 3 filmed in Israel.
- In the 1988 cop movie Red Heat Arnold Schwarzenegger (playing a Russian 'Dirty Harry' type) totes the fictional 'Podbyrin 9.2 mm' pistol (actually a modified Desert Eagle). The weapon certainly looks different during the one scene we see it resting on a table with its P-38 style grips; unfortunately the rest of the time they're wrapped in Arnie's huge fist and so the Podbyrin just looks like a Desert Eagle with a slightly longer barrel.
- In the sci-fi movie Enemy Mine the human pilot is armed with a stainless steel Walther PPK.
- In Raiders of the Lost Ark the main weapon of the Nazi soldiers is the MP40, despite the movie taking place in 1936. More jarring is the fact that at the end of the movie, Indiana Jones threatens the bad guys with an RPG-7, a Soviet rocket launcher that was first used in the 1960s. Not only that the RPG-7 in question lacked a warhead.
- The MP 40 was the MP 38 slightly redesigned to be cheaper to manufacture, and the two are visually nearly identical, but still falls 2 years too short. Of course, as the Germans were collecting para-normal technology, they obviously must have gotten ahold of a short duration time-machine.
- There was an earlier version of the MP 38/40, the MP 36, which was superficially very similar although the magazine housing was slanted slightly forward. It's uncertain how many were actually made but there are only two believed to still exist, numbered 01 and 014.
- Justified in Lifepod (the sci-fi remake of Alfred Hitchcock's Lifeboat) where one character is carrying a 20th century revolver because it will get through spaceport detectors that will pick up contemporary energy weapons.
- A case of being a bit too accurate is in the movie adaptation of The Fourth Protocol, where the KGB agent played by Pierce Brosnan uses a Soviet Makarov pistol — as an 'illegal' carrying out an operation that must not be linked to his own country (setting off a nuke outside a US Air Force base to fake an accident) it's the last weapon he'd use.
- It's possible that the Makarov was supposed to represent the (rather more expensive) Walther PPK on which the Soviet design is loosely based.
- Hm, released in 1987. If only it were set several years later, it'd be perfectly reasonable. Some time around the mid-90's, I think, Makarovs started getting imported into the US en masse, especially ones from Bulgaria IIRC. Before the supply dried up, they were among the best pistols that could be easily found for under $200.
- Remo Williams had the hero being tracked as he ran through the woods by what was actually the High Power Illuminator Radar. It is the distinctive 'Mickey Mouse ears' system. This is a radar meant to 'spotlight' a target for the missile and would be useless in that role (and quite hazardous to anybody within 75 meters of the front of it).
- Some of the 'laser guns' in the first (low budget) Terminator movie are clearly contemporary auto weapons, such as the fifty-calibre machine gun in the car sequence.
- In District 9, at least one MNU Elite Mook can be very briefly seen wielding a rifle that looks a bit like an AK 47 with a straight, slightly shorter magazine. It was probably a 7.62mm NATO-calibre IMI Galil
 , which is slightly odd given that South Africa did make a copy of the Galil, but of the 5.56mm version that uses an AK-style magazine.
- Given that they're mercenaries working for a multinational corporation it's hardly unusual they'd have access to weapons from all over the world.
- Still mildly noteworthy in that it's the only weapon the mercenaries are seen to carry that isn't standard issue to the South African army or police, with the possible exception of that sniper rifle in the shots from the helicopter.
- Koobus and some of his men wielded a RK-95◊, Finnnish exclusive assault rifle.
- The film Zulu is a mixed bag. While the production crew managed to get a decent number of period accurate Martini-Henry rifles, a closer look reveals a number of the extras using anachronistic Lee-Enfield Mk I bolt-action rifles instead. Also, officers use Webley Mk VI revolvers in lieu of period-accurate (but difficult to procure) Beaumont-Adams revolvers.
- The film Demolition Man features an energy weapon that is actually the futuristic-looking Heckler & Koch G-11 rifle.
- The movie version of The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen used several anachronistic guns with cosmetic changes. Dorian Gray used a gilded Luger P08, Captain Nemo used a Tokarev TT-33 pistol with ornate external decorations, his men have equally ornately-decorated Sten Mk II submachineguns, and the antagonist's mooks used Uzis, Thompsons, and AK-47s essentially encased in rectangular metal boxes.
Live Action TV
- Star Trek Voyager once featured the smallest of the Calico SMG variants as pistols (guess the 50-round magazine was just convenient).
- There is a pistol version of the Calico actually: the 9mm M950 which can take a 50 or a 100 magazine. Due to their unique appearance Calico firearms have appeared in several sci-fi movies, including "I Come In Peace" (aka Dark Angel) and the parody Spaceballs.
- The terrorists in that particular Voyager episode ("Time and Again") also used the Detonics Pocket 9. At least the producers went to the trouble of selecting weapons that looked different from regular firearms.
- The Doctor Who story "The Impossible Planet" features the people on the base wielding P90s, a gun which would be several hundred years old at that point.
- Utopia then takes it to a completely ridiculous extent. Guards are shown using Dragunov sniper rifles (a gun designed in the late '50s) in the year 100 trillion. For reference, the universe right now is allegedly 13.7 billion years old. This episode takes place over seven thousand times the age of the universe into the future, and they're still using a gun that is almost obsolete now!
- The new Doctor Who series (and new Battlestar Galactica) is clearly dropping the whole "the future will look like this" idea, and is just going for an Alien retro-look from corridors and bulkheads to computers and firearms (it saves money on props, and they get to have lots of loud autofire which is more exciting than coloured beams).
- "The Doctor's Daughter" features a Webley revolver in a futuristic clone-war. Yes, the favoured weapon of the original Brigadier.
- It also featured P90 gas-jet mock-ups, oddly enough. Couldn't they have just reused the G36s they had on hand?
- A non-gun example: in Doomsday, Rose makes a reference to her dad's Jeep, while the shot shows a Land Rover. This troper remembers because one of her friends is a Land Rover fanatic, who made her life hell for weeks afterwards with his complaints.
- Jeep is more of a genericized trademark, referring to any open car of that sort.
- And was used in the first Pertwee story to refer to a UNIT Land Rover.
- The 1960s-era series Combat! (set in World War II) sometimes used what appeared to be M3 submachine guns (which were actually issued to US troops at the time) with some modifications in external appearance in place of Nazi MP-38s or MP-40s.
- Averted in Firefly just for Mal's revolver was carefully built to mask the underlying Taurus model 85 while remaining operable. Zoe's short rifle is simply a Winchester Model 1892 — in fact, the prop was previously used in The Adventures of Brisco County, Jr. The Alliance are seen to be wielding G36s, MP5s and SA80s. And River gets her hands on a Desert Eagle at one point in "Objects in Space."
- Zoe's short rifle traces it's lineage back to the Mare's Leg of the old TV series "Wanted, Dead or alive" (1958-61)
- The Desert Eagle stand-in was Jayne's, and given his love affair with guns it's vaguely possible he had a Desert Eagle—or, given the price of artifacts from Earth-That-Was, a reproduction of one. But still.
- In the movie Serenity, the titular spaceship has a World War II German anti-aircraft gun used prominently.
- Serenity also features an M P5k SMG in the robbery scene, as well as a modified SPAS-12 at the end. Both guns use fake sounds.
- almost all the guns have different sounds, suggesting RuleOfCool for gun design and Abnormal Ammo for functionality.
- At first averted in the new Battlestar Galactica's first season, when most guns were either masked or obscure guns. However, in the following seasons, more recognizable guns were used, much to the ire of fans.
- In the first season, especially the humans on Cobol use H&K G36s and the futuristic-looking Beretta Cx4 Storm.
- At Zac Adama's funeral, the salute is performed with what appear to be British-made L85 automatic rifles, better known as the SA 80. This scene must have been something of a technical challenge, as this weapon's gas-operated mechanism cannot cycle blanks without a highly visible barrel blocker.
- Not to forget Galactica's security troopers who use FN P90. With silencers reminiscent of the 30€ Air Soft toygun...
- There's also the COP .357 derringer, used by Zarek's men and other unofficial types. The same weapon was used in Bladerunner in the opening scene, so it's also a sci-fi Shout Out.
- At one point, (this troper can't remember the episode), Admiral Adama is going to an execution; the pistol he carries is clearly an H&K USP, complete with a Sure Fire laser sight attached under the barrel.
- The Airwolf episode "Mad over Miami" features a bad guy holding something he claims is a new American heat-seeking missile launcher, which he uses (unsuccessfully) on Airwolf. It's very clearly an RPG - a Soviet rocket launcher with no heat-seeking capability.
- In the Airwolf pilot movie, a HAWK missile is seen launching, to be identified by the heroes as a 'heat seeking missile.' (The HAWK is a semi-active radar guided missile.)
- In an episode of The Seventies TV series The Professionals, where the Bulgarian secret service mooks at a prisoner exchange are holding StG-44's instead of AK 47's.
- This is something of a near miss research-wise, as a few StG-44s persisted in service with the East German Border Guards and possibly a few other Soviet security forces as a stopgap whilst the AK 47 was being rolled out, but they were almost certainly long gone by the end of the 1950s.
- StargateSG-1 both commits and averts this trope, often even in the same scene. From season 4 onwards, the team's MP5 submachine guns (which ARE issued in the U.S. military) were replaced by the Belgian FN P90 personal defense weapon. The only American users of the P90 are the Secret Service and some U.S. law enforcement agencies. However, actual U.S. military weapons also appear in the show quite often: the Beretta M9 pistol, the M4A1 carbine, the M16 assault rifle, and the M249 SAW to name a few. Another straight play of the trope occurs much later in the series; when Cameron Mitchell joins the team, the SGC starts using the H&K G36 and MP 7 PDW.
- The Word Of God is the 9mm round fired by the MP5 was simply not powerful enough to penetrate Jaffa armor reliably, resulting in a lot of ammunition expended for little purpose. SGC switched to the P90, along with assault rifles, specifically because the 5.7mm round has extremely good penetration against a variety of materials, making it more effective against Jaffa than the MP 5.
- Also, in addition to their specially designed weapons the Genii use Striker shotguns.
- During the opening phases of the second Gulf War, it was necessary for the Stargate production crew to cut down on their use of the P90, with it only being carried by O'Neill, whilst Carter carried the 'Carter Special'. This was due to the fact that factories that would otherwise have produced the 5.7mm blanks were busy producing live rounds.
- This trope is played glaringly straight almost any time the SGC runs into an offworld civilization that's using firearms. There is one episode where the other civilization was clearly using M1 Garands and AKs.
- The use of (for example) the P90 by Stargate Command has some real-world plausibility, even though it's not standard U.S. military equipment. In real life, Special Operations Command can make use of RFI(Rapid Fielding Initiative) to bypass the usual slow-moving procurement system and buy whatever they need directly. SGC would be in a somewhat analogous position to SOCOM (i.e., a relatively small but well-financed and highly important element of the military), quite possibly with even more RFI freedom.
- There was an episode of Hogans Heroes where an American M7 Priest (a self-propelled artillery piece from WW 2), painted grey and given iron cross decals, stood in for a German AFV... They even use the Priest's gun to set off some dynamite they've wired to a bridge at one point...
Video Games
- Although Serious Sam, with a 22nd century protagonist, has a fully-automated rocket launcher (still a dream) and a laser weapon (ditto), it also features archaic weaponry, including unlimited-reloads Schofield revolvers, a manual-loading snap-open double-barrelled shotgun, an unashamedly labelled Tommygun and a man-portable ''cannon'' (of the cannonball variety). All of which are hilariously out-of-place in ancient Egypt.
- In Hidden & Dangerous 2 and its expansion pack you face Italian soldiers that wield German firearms and tanks. The Japanese feature about the same amount, but in their case the developers took the time to model appropriate weapons. There are also some Italian-model aircraft on the field, yet the pilots seen wear Luftwaffe uniforms.
- The box art for Wolfenstein 3 D depicts Nazis using M16s, that fire while falling through air no less.
- A similar example: In the demo version of Medal of Honor: Airborne Assault the player faces Italian blackshirts armed with German weapons like the Kar-98 and MP-40 in a small village in Sicilia.
- DOOM gives the hero a pistol that looks very much like a Beretta 92. And the shotgun? It's a digitized Tootsie Toy "Dakota" capgun.◊
Real Life
- Andy Rooney (who was a correspondent during WWII) once told the story of a platoon of American soldiers who came across a German weapons cache. Either out of curiosity or necessity, they equipped themselves with the best guns the Third Reich had to offer. To paraphrase: "A U.S. mortar team, hearing the familiar sound of German firearms to their flank, dropped round after round on that position until the firing stopped..."
- In Generation Kill, Captain America is chewed out by his very annoyed Sergeant for this very reason.
- This was why the US discouraged its soldiers from taking AK-47s in Vietnam. They are the preferred weapon of the enemy, which make a distinctive sound when fired.
- However, at the time US Riflemen were equipped with an early model of the M16 which was notorious for design faults and a tendency to jam at inappropriate moments, no matter how well looked after. The AK-47, by contrast, was and in some circles still is famed for its durability and reliability, so it boiled down to a choice between being unable to shoot anyone or being shot at by your own side.
- For the same distinctive sound, Special Forces teams used them instead of the M-16. Any enemy hearing a shot simply heard a fellow soldier shooting enemies.
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