History Main / GodAndSatanAreBothJerks

* In ''VideoGame/{{Diablo}}'', angels are expressly forbidden from directly aiding mankind. The archangel Tyrael tries to give advice, but that's about all he can do aside from taking your cash to resurrect your minions (technically falling under indirect help).
** [[AllThereInTheManual And it's explained in some of the supplementary works]] that a portion of the angels actively despise humanity because they are partly descended from demons, and would be perfectly happy to see humanity wiped out. This is mostly displayed in Imperius and Malthael, who had the reasoning that the humans' demonic essence makes them disgusting and despicable.. However, the other angels aside of Tyrael; Auriel and Itherael; are more considerate towards humanity and prefers that they do not get destroyed. All in all, it's more like 60% Angels are fine with humanity, 40% despise them. But, the 40% also happen to be of higher hierarchy thus more likely listened to or be the picture of Angels overall and... read on.
** And in ''VideoGame/{{Diablo III}}'', Tyrael has had enough, willingly becoming a FallenAngel so that he can aid humanity directly as a mortal. Unfortunately, as much as they're less disgusted to humans compared to some, Auriel and Itherael couldn't break away from the laws binding them to heaven and follow Tyrael's suit so they're kind of 'unhelpful' until they really need your help. Imperius remains a {{Jerkass}} [[DudeWheresMyRespect in spite of you helping him]], while Malthael went on to become the BigBad of the expansion ''Reaper of Souls'' intending to KillAllHumans.
** The PlayerCharacter, no matter who they are, also starts to have this attitude towards the end of the "Reaper of Souls" expansion pack. Reading their journals seems to imply that the nephalem are starting to think of both angels and demons as monsters, as they seem to be more interested in 'winning the Eternal Conflict', in order to attain domination on all realms, and neither side seems to truly care about the all the collateral damage. The ending, after the player has killed Maltheal, also has Tyrael worrying that the nephalem could be tempted to go after both angels and demons, and could potentially doom everyone.

* ''VideoGame/DoomEternal'' has the [[AngelicAliens Makyrs of Urdak]] who are actively colluding with TheLegionsOfHell to invade Earth, thanks to their leader, the Khan Maykr, having made a [[DealWithTheDevil deal with Hell]] for the Argent Energy that the Maykrs need to stay alive and stave off Transfiguration -- energy that turns out to be [[spoiler:[[PoweredByAForsakenChild made from the souls of everyone who the Khan hands over to the demons]]]]. In addition, in the Ancient Gods [=DLCs=], it's ultimately revealed that [[spoiler:Davoth, the Overlord of Hell, was the original God, but he became [[SanitySlippage obsessed with mass-producing immortality and grew unhinged]] to the point that the [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder Makyrs feared his descent into madness and overthrew him]], electing one among them as the new Father. [[WrittenByTheWinners Half of ancient mythology is built on a lie uplifting the current Father]], while Davoth is an OmnicidalManiac who wants to preserve demons by exterminating everything with a soul]].

* In ''VideoGame/RuneScape'', Zamorak and Saradomin, the stand ins for Satan and God have both committed atrocious acts.

* ''Anime/GhastlyPrinceEnmaBurningUp'': [[spoiler:In the final two episodes, Heaven and Hell agree to kill off billions of humans in order to [[HumanResources harvest their souls for "soulperglue."]]]]
* In ''Franchise/{{Devilman}}'' [[spoiler: God is an EldritchAbomination who wants to murder demons only because his vision of order has no place for them, while Satan wants to wipe all humans from the face of Earth so demons can rule over it]]. In ''AMON'', the titular character opposes them both because, [[OrderVersusChaos as a chaotic spirit, he is not happy with either's vision of order]] and [[spoiler: God has put the world on a loop so Satan can fall in love with Akira and watch him die again and again and Satan realizes that he/she is quite insane]].

* ''Manga/AngelSanctuary'': God, the Angels, and the Demons are all antagonists at some point. [[BlackAndGrayMorality Nobody's lovely]]; [[EvilerThanThou some are just worse than others]]. [[CrapsackWorld It's that kind of story]].
* ''Manga/Bastard1988'': KnightTemplar angels as well as AlwaysChaoticEvil devils try to wipe out humanity, while fighting each other.
* In ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'', the master demon slayer Guts has his eyes set on the Godhand, a quintet of archdevils who produce lesser ones to torment Midland. [[spoiler: It’s revealed in [[MissingEpisode Chapter 83]] that the Godhand were actually created by the Idea of Evil, a stand-in for both God and the Devil, to make the world as terrible a place as possible.]]
* The plot of ''Manga/FutureDiary'' is kicked off when the dying TopGod, Deus Ex Machina, decides to choose a successor by forcing twelve ([[spoiler: actually thirteen]]) people to fight each other to the death for the throne. It turns out that he never had to set up the game at all, but decided that just choosing a successor would be too boring. On the other hand, [[spoiler: it’s revealed that Yuno Gasai, or rather the First World version, had already won the game, and plans to keep invading other universes to play it over and over, with a never-ending list of victims and destroyed worlds to her name.]]
* It's revealed in ''Manga/TheSevenDeadlySins'' that both the Demon King and Supreme Deity are evil and view the Holy War between them as a game, killing millions for their amusement. The two of them actually usurped and sealed away the true god, Chaos, and once teamed up to curse the demon Melodias and the goddess Liz for their [[AngelDevilShipping blasphemous relationship]].

* In ''Film/TheProphecy'', rogue Angels led by the ArchangelGabriel are out to destroy humanity because humans have usurped the angels' place in God's affections, and the demons want to destroy humanity because... well... they're demons. God himself is never encountered on-screen, but the angels still loyal to him don't seem to care much about humanity, generally being content to either sit on the sidelines while humanity suffers or focus only on fighting Gabriel's angels.
* ''Film/{{Legion}}'' had just about the same set-up, except God was actively helping the anti-human angels for a while.
* The Mexican movie ''Film/{{Macario}}'' is related to the below fairy tale "Literature/GodfatherDeath", but a lot of the circumstances are changed, and apparently it was AllJustADream.
** The main change is that Death is fortuitously encountered by a humble farmer called Macario, who by chance lucked out on a job and was able to buy two whole chickens for himself, and decides to go deep into the forest to eat them by himself. He runs into Death without knowing who it is, and shares a chicken with it; Death grants him the same deal: if Death appears by a sick person's bed near the side, the person will recover; but if it appears near the foot of the bed, the person will die. When Macario decides to neglect this and upset Death, he is forced to visit it in a cave in the forest, where he finds every person in the world has a candle lit representing their lifespan. Macario steals his own candle to prevent Death from taking him, but trips and his life is extinguished. Turns out Death rolled time back, and Macario DID go alone into the forest, ate both chickens and died from indigestion. This is a VERY old movie in black and white, worth checking out for its trippyness.

* In ''Film/GoodSatan'', Satan is a loser with poor-impulse control who fruitlessly pines to return to Heaven and [[spoiler:cancels the SecondComing by getting Jesus kicked out of Heaven]] and God put up a front as an affable guy, but is actually a condescending prick that claims the moral high-ground over ''everyone'', often changing the subject before anyone can properly hold him to this. [[TookALevelInKindness They both learn to be better, though]].

* ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' has featured demons as the bad guys from the first episode, but in season 4 angels, as represented by Castiel. Problem is, God is generally hands off, and most of the higher angels are perfectly in favor of another war with Lucifer to make sure he's finally taken care of... no matter how many humans get caught in the middle. ArchangelMichael is meant to be Lucifer's [[BigGood "good" counterpart]], who is supposed to [[CainAndAbel deal with him,]] but is just as much of a JerkAss. And the Apocalypse is seen by them as nothing more than sibling rivalry. In fact, human extinction is considered a positive element in some angelic circles.
** Cas spends most of season five looking for his Father, in hopes that if directly entreated he will fix all this injustice and madness. Eventually they manage to get in contact with a being who is in contact with God. God's message is: ''Back off.'' He has no intention of helping. Castiel's answer to that is: ''"[[RageAgainstTheHeavens You son of a bitch]]. [[TranquilFury I trusted you]]."''
** God himself is clearly disinterested in the genocidal plans of the angels- in fact, he explicitly says (through an intermediary) that the Apocalypse is "not his problem" (the angels themselves seem either convinced He was dead, or disillusioned that Daddy isn't ever coming back home- they are really simply lost without Him, and the Apocalypse is really the closest thing they have to God's Will). However, it is implied that the ''real'' reason God thought it wasn't His problem is that He knew Sam and Dean would win without help (and has subtly been assisting them in small ways anyway) and that He is simply a case of GodIsFlawed [[spoiler: and is actually Chuck]]. Then the Season 14 finale reveals that [[spoiler:God's actually an uncaring jerk who sees everyone in his creation as his own CosmicPlaything. The moment Sam and Dean go OffTheRails and refuse to play along for his amusement anymore, he decides to kill ''everything'' and unleashes HellOnEarth]].
** Then there's all the gods of other religions, most of which are JerkassGods who don't care either way as long as it doesn't infringe on their territory, and actively [[HumanSacrifice torture and kill humans for sacrifice to keep their powers and immortality functioning]]. Lucifer himself wipes out most of them as they're convening to discuss how to stop the Apocalypse, in a transparent case of EvilVersusOblivion. [[spoiler: The final season reveals that ALL Pagan Gods were in fact created by the real God, specifically so they could be JerkassGods and torment humanity so [[FakeUltimateHero God Himself]] [[EngineeredHeroics can come off as the]] BigGood and ultimately steal their worshippers via Christianization; the reason for this was because God originally didn't have an established cult or presence, so humans imagined up fictional gods of our own to worship, [[AttentionWhore and that pissed Chuck off.]] [[TheFogOfAges Most Pagan Gods simply don't remember their true origins and purpose,]] [[BelievingTheirOwnLies and believe that they were the original creators/rulers of Earth before God and his Angels came along]].]]

* ''Series/{{Reaper}}''. The Devil is the obvious JerkAss, but all we see of God is him telling an angel to break Sam's hand so that the Devil owns both Sam and Andi's souls. However, this may also be a case of a RiddleForTheAges, as the angel in question (along with swarms of other angels) departs with a cryptic statement implying that God has some further plan in play.
* In ''Series/{{Lost}}'', good and evil appear to be personified by Jacob and the Man in Black respectively. Though one turns out to be the BigBad and the other passes power to the show's lead character in his final scene, neither has many fans among the characters by the show's end. Their mutual jerkiness is most present in their flashback / StartOfDarkness episode.

* In ''Dread'' and ''Spite'', the Books of Pandemonium, it turns out that [[spoiler:Dread's demon-slaying Disciples are working for higher demons who want to win the war of Heaven and Hell for the forces of Hell, and Spite's angel-slaying Zealots are working for angels who have rebelled against Heaven because Heaven apparently doesn't give a rat's ass about human free will. Whichever side in the Heaven vs. Hell War wins, humanity loses]].
** [[spoiler: Subverted, [[HopeSpot oddly enough]], in later games. The murderous angels that are rampaging through the world are themselves rogue, so eager to win the war they're ignoring heavenly orders. The real angels are more benevolent, if still [[AngelicAbomination alien and terrifying]], they're just waiting for the right time to manifest.]]
* ''TabletopGame/DemonTheFallen'' had a history that started as RageAgainstTheHeavens -- when it seemed like God and [[LittleMissAlmighty her]] loyalists were keen to let Adam and Eve remain unenlightened animals like the rest of the beasts in Eden, Lucifer and his agents (fearing a disaster that might occur if they didn't do so) raised humans up to true sapience. God, pissed off, shattered the perfect nature of Creation and reduced it to its current fallen state. However, then the Fallen started giving in to [[TheDarkSide Torment]]... let's just say that by the time the demons got cast into the Abyss, there were few heroes on either side.

* In ''{{TabletopGame/Kult}}'' heaven is represented by the Archons and the Demiurge, oppressive tyrants who want to make the entire world into a prison, while Hell is represented by the Death Angels and Asteroth, sadistic monsters who wish to make suffering the fundamental core of existence. Hell is currently winning, but things wouldn't be any better if the Demiurge retained complete control.

* In ''VideoGame/RuneScape'', Zamorak and Saradomin, the stand ins for Satan and God have both committed atrocious acts.

* ''VideoGame/DiabloIV'': Inarius and Lilith, the gods of Sanctuary, embody BothOrderAndChaosAreDangerous. Inarius is a narcissist who rebuilt his KnightTemplar church so he could fuck off back to Heaven. Lilith only cares about saving the strong, and willfully discards any followers who are too weak to survive.
* ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'':
** The BigBadEnsemble is between YHVH, who wants a world of total oppressive order, and Lucifer, who wants a world of unrestrained chaos. So not only are the demons complete dicks, so are the angels, though there are usually sympathetic and helpful people on both sides. This is why OmnicidalNeutral endings tend to be considered the best. Lucifer is an [[MoreThanMindControl extremely]] ManipulativeBastard, YHVH is an utterly [[LackOfEmpathy amoral]] [[DespotismJustifiesTheMeans tyrant]], Philemon [[GodsHandsAreTied won't do jack in the face of the Apocalypse]] and abuses his position as the PowersThatBe to fulfill his agenda, and [[MadeOfEvil Nyarlathotep]] is simply ''made'' of evil. No matter where you look, ''all'' extremes in the alignment axis ''suck''.
** In ''II'', there's another aversion. Lucifer is [[spoiler:actually a good guy this time]], while Satan [[spoiler:is a noble individual corrupted by YHVH's will, and can even turn on YHVH when the latter goes beyond the pale]].
** ''VideoGame/DevilSurvivor'' is another aversion through BlackAndGrayMorality. In this game, God isn't a complete dick. On the one hand, he's done some shady things, [[spoiler: is responsible for setting Cain up to kill Abel]], and has put HumanityOnTrial with the penalty being [[spoiler: the end of free will as angels take control of humanity]]. But He has very valid reasons for testing humanity, since we've become a species powerful enough to control demons and potentially battle Him, and He actually wants humanity to succeed in handling the crisis and prove themselves worthy - while humans inside the lockdown [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters are doing their best to prove the opposite]]. Meanwhile, Lucifer's a jerk who's only involving himself for his own amusement, and the actual leader of the demons, Belberith, really is monstrously evil, seeking to take revenge against God by sadistically [[KillAllHumans murdering all his "children"]].
* ''VideoGame/{{Bayonetta}}'' has this. Demons are genuinely evil, interspersed with a few {{Noble Demon}}s who are honest about their brutality and intentions but can be at least relied on to uphold a deal... until the deal is met. Angels ''look'' pretty but are actually monstrous once you get past their gold and marble outer appearance, to say nothing of their personalities. Despite this, both angels and demons have mortal servants in the form of [[LightIsGood Lumen Sages]] and [[DarkIsNotEvil Umbra Witches]] who are both noble organizations, not that this stops angels and demons using both of them for their own desires.
* The "real" storyline of ''VideoGame/GuardianHeroes'' works out like this. ''Advance Guardian Heroes'' makes things even worse.

* ''VideoGame/{{Messiah}}'': Satan is, well, evil. God cares mostly about his own safety and doesn't hesitate from leaving humanity at Satan's mercy.
* In ''VideoGame/ValdisStoryAbyssalCity'', Myrgato (Goddess of Darkness) and Alagath (Goddess of Light) are both [[OmnicidalManiac genocidal]] {{Manipulative Bastard}}s who routinely enslave humans and MindRape them into becoming Demons or Angels to fight in their ForeverWar. Myrgato and her Demons are at least honest about their intent to conquer the world, while Alagath's faction are uniformly HolierThanThou KnightTemplar.
* It really, ''really'' sucks to be a human in ''VideoGame/AsurasWrath''. On one side, there's the Gohma, an army of demonic [[TheHeartless Heartless]] and the [[GaiasVengeance embodiment of the planet's fury]], and on the other side, there's the Shinkoku and the Seven Deities, who've spent 12,000 years building a superweapon to wipe out the Gohma once and for all... which is [[PoweredByAForsakenChild powered by human souls]]. Lots and lots and lots of human souls that require a whole lot of genocide to harvest. [[spoiler:And then there's [[TheManBehindTheMan Chakravartin]], the TopGod of the world, and is [[GodIsEvil no better]] whatsoever.]]

* The ''Franchise/BlazBlue'' series is ultimately revealed to have this going on. The SatanicArchetype is [[CardCarryingVillain Yuuki Terumi]] [[spoiler:aka Susano'o no Mikoto]], who is gleefully unrepentant of all the atrocities he commits because he hates Amaterasu that much. Speaking of Amaterasu, it was originally perceived as [[GreaterScopeParagon a benevolent figure]] that reset the timeline to prevent certain calamity... until we realize exactly what that "calamity" really is. [[spoiler:The Origin, the entity that inhabits the Amaterasu unit, originally wanted to be saved from her fate as the "god" of the world, but the "hero" of her story either got lost, swore off his fate, or got destroyed, and Amaterasu rewrote the story from scratch every single time this happened... and '''only''' when this happened, regardless of all other calamity that befell the world, usually caused in some capacity by Terumi's handiwork. The "hero" in question is none other than Ragna the Bloodedge in every instance. In other words, the resident 'God' doesn't want her position and wanted to be saved from it, but can't do it herself, therefore she picked a hero and kept repeating the world's events until the hero saves her, any other suffering of another person living in that world, she wouldn't give a damn, [[ItsAllAboutMe as long as she gets saved from the position she never wanted]].]] After all that, is it no wonder [[TheArchmage Nine]] and [[MadScientist Relius Clover]] both couldn't possibly care less about Terumi ''and'' wish to see Amaterasu destroyed and replaced?

* The ''Monster Girl Quest'' series has this with [[spoiler:[[TreacherousAdvisor Goddess Ilias]] and the original MonsterLord Alice I, the God and Satan equivalents respectively. Ilias lies about being the creator of the entire world, claiming the monsters were her failed creations, and forbids her human worshippers from being in relationships with monsters (which would lead to the latter's extinction, since they're a OneGenderRace). When she deems humanity to be a failure, she plans to wipe them out and start over. Alice I (the actual creator of monsters) is shown to not be any better in the sequel ''Monster Girl Quest: Paradox''. Here there's an alternate universe in which her side won against Ilias, resulting in a brutal MightMakesRight world (there's also another universe where Ilias won, resulting in a world where everyone is under her strict control)]].
* ''VideoGame/DwarfFortress'': Demons are immensely powerful beings that could tear apart entire civilizations [[spoiler:and ''will'' if unearthed by digging too far deep in-game]], and are generally just as terrible as expected. Deities, however, can be jerkasses that end up raising those very same demons upon the world to begin with. Even "angels" only use that term loosely -- those are simply beings made by the deities, and can be as weird-looking and brutal as the demons themselves. It's quite telling that Armok, the TopGod of the DF-verse, is called the God of Blood, and the lore is that he regularly resets entire universes purely out of boredom.
* ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosUltimate'' features Galeem and Dharkon, two diametrically opposed beings composed respectively of pure light and darkness, both of whose agendas amount to them being [[OmnicidalManiac universal threats]] to the fighters.
* ''VideoGame/DoomEternal'' has the [[AngelicAliens Makyrs of Urdak]] who are actively colluding with TheLegionsOfHell to invade Earth, thanks to their leader, the Khan Maykr, having made a [[DealWithTheDevil deal with Hell]] for the Argent Energy that the Maykrs need to stay alive and stave off Transfiguration -- energy that turns out to be [[spoiler:[[PoweredByAForsakenChild made from the souls of everyone who the Khan hands over to the demons]]]]. In addition, in the Ancient Gods [=DLCs=], it's ultimately revealed that [[spoiler:Davoth, the Overlord of Hell, was the original God, but he became [[SanitySlippage obsessed with mass-producing immortality and grew unhinged]] to the point that the [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder Makyrs feared his descent into madness and overthrew him]], electing one among them as the new Father. [[WrittenByTheWinners Half of ancient mythology is built on a lie uplifting the current Father]], while Davoth is an OmnicidalManiac who wants to preserve demons by exterminating everything with a soul]].
* The ''VideoGame/{{Marathon}}'' mod ''Eternal'' (no relation, although its developers mostly seem amused by the name similarity) [[spoiler:uses the "Law and Chaos Are Both Jerks" variant with the Stage Three Jjaro and the W'rkncacnter, who are essentially the setting's closest equivalent to gods - indeed, both are explicitly compared to gods in terms of their power. The Jjaro are so focused on their conflict with the W'rkncacnter - and ''especially'' on maintaining the integrity of a timeline that they themselves created - that they are incapable of recognising that they literally possess the power to create an entirely new dimension that completely fulfills their desires without any need to impose their agenda on everyone else. The W'rkncacnter are shown to be similar - Hathor's desire for revenge against humanity, rooted in deep-seated traumas that she has in no way addressed, are the clearest depiction that they have the same blindnesses that the Jjaro have. (Comments from the developers indicate that the W'rkncacnter are simply insane Jjaro, and that Hathor literally becomes a W'rkncacnter by the end of the game). The two are essentially depicted as personifications of LawfulEvil and ChaoticEvil, and their conflict would literally end up destroying the galaxy without the player's intervention. MissionControl Durandal,]] in the game's final terminal, literally calls both approaches "suicidal" before suggesting that [[UsefulNotes/{{Anarchism}} imposing one's desires on others through force is ethically objectionable]], also implying that a free society requires a balance between order/law and chaos. Incidentally, [[spoiler:earlier Jjaro society was idyllic and benevolent, and was formed primarily by cyborg descendants of humans]]. Also, much of this background mythology was planned to tie in with the story of ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' before Bungie changed the latter to remove its explicit connections to ''Marathon''.
* In the ''VideoGame/{{Annventure}}'' series, The Killer/[[spoiler:Tyrannia]] is the local SatanicArchetype and BigBad of the first two games who leads an army of demons and monsters in rampaging throughout the world, with the intention of overthrowing the god of the setting and seizing his power to [[OmnicidalManiac destroy everything]]. Said god, [[spoiler:the Grand Creator Yoobii]], is far more AffablyEvil and not nearly as bad, but is still a callous deity who abandons his creations whenever they disappoint him, and eventually [[spoiler:tries to wipe out his universe himself out of self-loathing and insecurity]].

* ''WebAnimation/DarkMatter2525'''s [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVgZqnsytJI interpretation of the Book of Job]] from the Bible. In it he argues that both God and Satan are [[{{Deconstruction}} being jerks for forcing Job to undergo such suffering for what is essentially a bet between them for their own amusement]]. The whole time StraightMan angel Jeffery constantly pleads with them to stop because he rightly thinks that what's happening to Job is wrong.
* ''{{Inverted|Trope}}'' in ''WebVideo/HellsingUltimateAbridged'', where it shows that God and Satan are actually pretty nice guys. God's got a bit of a pragmatic streak to himself, but Satan shows he's pretty chill with his supposed arch-enemy and the feeling's mutual even if God doesn't exactly look forward to talking to Satan.

* In ''Webcomic/{{Sinfest}}'':
** The Devil is a CorruptCorporateExecutive, using his wealth and influence to ruin civilization ForTheEvulz. God, on the other hand, is a CloudCuckoolander who's constantly annoying and mocking other characters with inane puppet shows. [[JesusWasWayCool Jesus, on the other hand, is a pretty swell guy]], as is his [[PalsWithJesus BFF]] [[TakeAThirdOption Buddha]].
** The Eastern Dragon, who represents the mythological aspects of eastern religion, is also kind of a stuck up jerk at times, though not quite as much so as God or the Devil.

* The [[LightIsNotGood Sacred Side]] and the [[TheDarkSide Blood Side]] from ''[[http://space-blood.thecomicseries.com/comics/1 Space Blood]]'' invoke this trope with the [[TheFundamentalist Zedi]] being closed minded religious Zealots who think [[HeteronormativeCrusader killing a certain sexuality is good]], While the [[ReligionOfEvil Knights of Len]] act as the heretic faith. But are EqualOpportunityEvil. [[spoiler: And it turns out that both sides are born of evil and created the Space Blood universe.]]
* ''Webcomic/TheAdventuresOfGod'': JesusWasWayCool, but God mostly just made the world for laughs and is an alcoholic. Satan is awful too.

* ''Webcomic/HellgasmSlaughter'': God created and abandoned the universe for the sole purpose of growing the perfect gullible race to enslave. Satan is in fact ''Lilith'', and contrary to the literary canon, she ''ate Adam and Eve'' so she could create demonkind from their corpses and (''very'' violently) usurp God.
** After 11 chapters of watching the sickest shit Hell and Humanity can inflict on everything they can get their greasy palms on, Chapter 12 opens with Heaven ''violently torturing the virtuous''. It's enough to make ''devils'' gape in shock.
* ''Webcomic/ItHurts'': God and Satan are both massive jerks, what with Satan jerking Pasqualo around every chance he gets and God [[spoiler:sending Pasqualo on a SnipeHunt over something Pasqualo did in a ''past life'']] but that's not saying much when ''everyone'' in the universe is a jerk [[spoiler:except the forces of nature more powerful than God, Harmony and Chaos]]. They've also had their [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold heart of gold moments]], such as Satan lending Pasqualo his clothes and God giving Pasqualo a pep talk before [[spoiler:the SnipeHunt]]. It's also implied God and Satan are actually ''lovers''.

* ''{{Inverted|Trope}}'' in ''WebVideo/HellsingUltimateAbridged'', where it shows that God and Satan are actually pretty nice guys. God's got a bit of a pragmatic streak to himself, but Satan shows he's pretty chill with his supposed arch-enemy and the feeling's mutual.

* In ''TabletopGame/KULT'' heaven is represented by the Archons and the Demiurge, oppressive tyrants who want to make the entire world into a prison, while Hell is represented by the Death Angels and Asteroth, sadistic monsters who wish to make suffering the fundamental core of existence. Hell is currently winning, but things wouldn't be any better if the Demiurge retained complete control.

* Inverted in ''LightNovel/HighschoolDXD'', in which both God and the Four Devils are good, if [[GodIsFlawed flawed]]. The main characters are all devils, and the main romantic interest, Rias, is in fact the acting Satan's younger sister. However, they are all {{noble demon}}s (albeit some rather perverted), and the series takes great pains to show that demons, angels, {{fallen angel}}s, and simple humans are all really no different from each other. The only thing that separates the three former races from the latter is that they have magic powers, and the only thing that separates them from each other is how they go about granting humans' desires: Angels do it for free while demons and fallen angels request payment for their help, but nothing on the level of selling their soul or the like; normally, a simple monetary payment will suffice. Some demons are shown to be as nice and civil as can be, while angels prove that they can be huge dickheads if they wish, as well. In fact, the only reason the three races even fought in the first place was because God was worried the demons might decide to rise up against Him, so decided to strike first, using Literature/TheBible as a propaganda piece to rile the angels into war.

* In ''Literature/TheBeginningAfterTheEnd'', the main conflict is instigated by the evil Agrona Vritra and the Vritra Clan against the rest of the Asuras who are headed by Kezess Indrath and the Indrath Clan, with both parties pitting the inhabitants of Alacrya and Dicathen respectively against each other in a ProxyWar. However, it turns out the reason for Agrona's StartOfDarkness and thus the war itself was that he discovered that long ago, [[spoiler:the Indrath Clan had orchestrated the genocide of the ancient Djinn race out of jealousy for their ability to harness the [[ElementNumberFive aether]], which they believed was exclusively theirs. When Agrona threatened to reveal the truth, the Indrath Clan exiled him to Alacrya. Over the course of the war, the Indrath demonstrate themselves to be WellIntentionedExtremist KnightTemplar[=s=] who are no better than their enemies when it comes to their treatment of mortals. At one point in the war, the Asuras orchestrate a failed sneak attack on Alacrya without consulting their Dicathian allies, which Agrona takes advantage of to remove their involvement in the war as a violation of their treaty and thus leaving the Dicathians at a considerable disadvantage. After the war ends and the Alacryans conquer Dictahen, [[GodzillaThreshold Kezess orders his subordinate Aldir to use]] [[FantasticNuke World Eater Technique]] to destroy the Elven Kingdom of Elenoir in an attempt to prevent the Vritra from summoning a PersonOfMassDestruction known as the Legacy. The attempt fails, as not only does the Legacy survive, but Elenoir is reduced to a barren wasteland and the Elves are almost driven to extinction (to say nothing of the fact that Aldir has a MyGodWhatHaveIDone moment in the aftermath which later drives him to become a DefectorFromDecadence). In the aftermath, the Asuras attempt to salvage the situation on Dicathen through manipulating the Dicathian resistance. Not only do they lie about their involvement in the destruction of Elenoir, but they also present them a set of magical artifacts that would supposedly grant them the power to defeat the Vritra, only for it to be revealed that said artifacts would in fact enslave their wielders to the Indrath Clan's will. When this deceit is revealed and the Dicathians refuse their offer, Kezess decides to wipe the slate clean by [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness purging what was left of the resistance]], an attempt that was only foiled by Arthur returning from Alacrya]].

* In ''Literature/TheBeginningAfterTheEnd'', the main conflict is instigated by the evil Agrona Vritra and the Vritra Clan against the rest of the Asuras who are headed by Kezess Indrath and the Indrath Clan, with both parties pitting the inhabitants of Alacrya and Dicathen respectively against each other in a ProxyWar. However, it turns out the reason for Agrona's StartOfDarkness and thus the war itself was that he discovered that long ago, [[spoiler:the Indrath Clan had orchestrated the genocide of the ancient Djinn race out of jealousy for their ability to harness the [[ElementNo5 aether]], which they believed was exclusively theirs. When Agrona threatened to reveal the truth, the Indrath Clan exiled him to Alacrya. As the war dragged on in favor of the Vritra, the Indrath demonstrate themselves to be WellIntentionedExtremist KnightTemplar[=s=] who are no better than their enemies when it comes to their treatment of mortals. Case in point, one of the turning points of the war happens when [[GodzillaThreshold Kezess orders his subordinate Aldir to use a]] DangerousForbiddenTechnique to destroy the Elven Kingdom of Elenoir, which had been taken over by the Vritra and their Alacryan underlings, without any regard to who got caught in the crossfire. When Arthur later confronts him about what happened in Elenoir, rather than truly take responsibility for what happened the only concession Kezess grants him is Aldir's life (at the time, Aldir had deserted Kezess's service due to having grown disillusioned with Kezess's tyranny). Later on, the Asuras offer the Dicathean resistance a set of new artifacts that would supposedly grant them the power to defeat the Vritra, only for it to be revealed that said artifacts would in fact enslave their wielders to the Indrath Clan's will]].

* In ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'', the series BigBadEnsemble is between YHVH, who wants a world of total oppressive order, and Lucifer, who wants a world of unrestrained chaos. So not only are the demons complete dicks, so are the angels, though there are usually sympathetic and helpful people on both sides. This is why OmnicidalNeutral endings tend to be considered the best.
** Hell. Lucifer is an [[MoreThanMindControl extremely]] {{manipulative|Bastard}} [[TheChessmaster bastard]], YHVH is an utterly [[LackOfEmpathy amoral]] [[DespotismJustifiesTheMeans tyrant]], Philemon [[GodsHandsAreTied won't do jack in the face of the Apocalypse]] and abuses his position as the PowersThatBe to fulfill his agenda, and [[MadeOfEvil Nyarlathotep]] is, well... [[PrecisionFStrike fucking]] '''''[[TheHeartless Nyar]][[EldritchAbomination lat]][[AsLongAsThereIsEvil hotep]]'''''. No matter where you look, ''all'' extremes in the alignment axis ''suck''. [[FridgeBrilliance Which makes sense when you really think about it]].

* In ''Webcomic/{{Sinfest}}'', the Devil is a CorruptCorporateExecutive, using his wealth and influence to ruin civilization ForTheEvulz. God, on the other hand, is a CloudCuckoolander who's constantly annoying and mocking other characters with inane puppet shows.
** [[JesusWasWayCool Jesus, on the other hand, is a pretty swell guy]], as is his [[PalsWithJesus BFF]] [[TakeAThirdOption Buddha]].

* In ''Literature/TheBeginningAfterTheEnd'', the main conflict is instigated by the evil Agrona Vritra and the Vritra Clan against the rest of the Asuras who are headed by Kezess Indrath and the Indrath Clan, with both parties pitting the inhabitants of Alacrya and Dicathen respectively against each other in a ProxyWar. However, as the war drags on in favor of the Vritra, [[spoiler:the Indrath Clan and the rest of the Asuras prove to be a bunch of WellIntentionedExtremist KnightTemplar[=s=] who are no better than their enemies when it comes to their treatment of mortals. Case in point, one of the turning points of the war happens when Kezess orders his subordinates to destroy the Elven Kingdom of Elenoir, which has been taken over by the Vritra and their Alacryan underlings, without any regard to who got caught in the crossfire. When Arthur later confronts him about what happened in Elenoir, rather than truly take responsibility for what happened the only concession Kezess grants him is the life of the subordinate who carried out the atrocity. Later on, the Asuras offer the Dicathean resistance a set of new artifacts that would supposedly grant them the power to defeat the Vritra, only for it to be revealed that said artifacts would in fact enslave their wielders to the Indrath Clan's will. It is also later revealed that Kezess had orchestrated the genocide of the Djinn race in order to attain knowledge that he wanted to use for the greater good]].

* In ''Literature/TheBeginningAfterTheEnd'', the main conflict is instigated by the evil Agrona Vritra and the Vritra Clan against the rest of the Asuras who are headed by Kezess Indrath and the Indrath Clan, who are pitting the inhabitants of Alacrya and Dicathen respectively against each other in a ProxyWar. However, as the war drags on in favor of the Vritra, [[spoiler:the Indrath Clan and the rest of the Asuras prove to be a bunch of WellIntentionedExtremist KnightTemplar[=s=] who are no better than their enemies when it comes to their treatment of mortals. Case in point, one of the turning points of the war happens when Kezess orders his subordinates to destroy the Elven Kingdom of Elenoir, which has been taken over by the Vritra and their Alacryan underlings, without any regard to who got caught in the crossfire. Later on, the Asuras offer the Dicathean resistance a set of new artifacts that would supposedly grant them the power to defeat the Vritra, only for it to be revealed that said artifacts would in fact enslave their wielders to the Indrath Clan's will. It is also revealed that Kezess orchestrated the genocide of the Djinn race in order to attain knowledge that he wanted to use for the greater good]].

* According to ''Literature/{{Thirsty}}'', God loves humans, and only humans. It doesn't matter if you used to be human. It doesn't matter if you desperately wish you were human. If you're a monster of any kind, you're going to burn in Hell forever. Demons, on the other hand, are exactly as sociopathic as you'd expect them to be.