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** ''VisualNovel/DanganronpaTriggerHappyHavoc'': The killer's plan requires a lot of things outside of their control to go right, such as one group of students finding [[spoiler:Hifumi playing dead]] and another group finding Kiyotaka's corpse at the same time [[spoiler:to trick the former into thinking Hifumi was actually dead]], nobody discovering planted evidence at the wrong time and so on. But ''unlike'' Nagito below, this doesn't work out entirely to their favor; the plan does go awry in a few instances, most notably when Asahina feels too sick to leave the infirmary and inadvertently forces [[spoiler:Hifumi to keep playing dead]], requiring the killer to improvise a way to get Asahina out of the room- which works, but [[spoiler:leaves a very narrow window of time for Celestia's fall guy to have supposedly moved Hifumi's corpse to the art storage room, which helps discredit her narrative]].

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** ''VisualNovel/DanganronpaTriggerHappyHavoc'': The In the third chapter, the killer's plan requires a lot of things outside of their control to go right, such as one group of students finding [[spoiler:Hifumi playing dead]] and another group finding Kiyotaka's [[spoiler:Kiyotaka]]'s corpse at the same time [[spoiler:to trick the former into thinking Hifumi was actually dead]], nobody discovering planted evidence at the wrong time and so on. But ''unlike'' Nagito below, this doesn't work out entirely to their favor; the plan [[SpannerInTheWorks does go awry awry]] in a few instances, most notably when Asahina feels too sick to leave the infirmary and inadvertently forces [[spoiler:Hifumi to keep playing dead]], requiring the killer to improvise a way to get Asahina out of the room- which works, but [[spoiler:leaves a very narrow window of time for Celestia's fall guy to have supposedly moved Hifumi's corpse to the art storage room, which helps discredit her narrative]].
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* The vast majority of tabletop games rely on players doing this at least to some extent. Players build their plans on the assumption that [[RandomNumberGod dice rolls and deck draws]] will go their way or that other players don’t get in the way of their interests, and have to [[XanatosSpeedChess improvise when things go awry.]]
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** When [[BigGood Princess Celestia]] appears at the end of the two-part pilot for the first season, she announces she'd planned for everything that happened. It's anyone's guess how she knew Twilight would run into just the right group of new friends and they'd each get a chance to prove themselves along the way as fit to wield the Elements of Harmony, and that Twilight would recognize all of this in time for it to mean anything. Celestia is certainly smart, and the true extent of her abilities is unknown, but predicting all that would have taken omniscience, thus making the plan this trope either way.\\\

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** When [[BigGood [[Characters/FriendshipIsMagicPrincessCelestia Princess Celestia]] appears at the end of the two-part pilot for the first season, she announces she'd planned for everything that happened. It's anyone's guess how she knew Twilight would run into just the right group of new friends and they'd each get a chance to prove themselves along the way as fit to wield the Elements of Harmony, and that Twilight would recognize all of this in time for it to mean anything. Celestia is certainly smart, and the true extent of her abilities is unknown, but predicting all that would have taken omniscience, thus making the plan this trope either way.\\\



** Frequently deconstructed by Starlight Glimmer, who has something of a ComplexityAddiction and is fond of elaborate plans to achieve her objectives. These inevitably include such things as [[BatmanGambit Batman Gambits]] on people she doesn't know that well, massive cases of MissingStepsPlan, assumptions that events will inevitably fall her way, or pure simple InsaneTrollLogic, and as such always fail spectacularly.

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** Frequently deconstructed by [[Characters/FriendshipIsMagicStarlightGlimmer Starlight Glimmer, Glimmer]], who has something of a ComplexityAddiction and is fond of elaborate plans to achieve her objectives. These inevitably include such things as [[BatmanGambit Batman Gambits]] on people she doesn't know that well, massive cases of MissingStepsPlan, assumptions that events will inevitably fall her way, or pure simple InsaneTrollLogic, and as such always fail spectacularly.



** A lot of Heather schemes require an insane amount of luck to work:

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** A lot of Heather [[Characters/TotalDramaHeather Heather]] schemes require an insane amount of luck to work:

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* ''VisualNovel/Danganronpa2GoodbyeDespair'' has Nagito Komaeda, for whom the repeated use of this trope is ''completely justified'': his [[BornLucky Ultimate Good Luck]] means that any plan of his that depends on "just hope that the right thing will happen" ''will'' [[StoryBreakerPower reliably work]], and his plans generally rely on exploiting this fact by leaving some crucial element completely up to chance.

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** ''VisualNovel/DanganronpaTriggerHappyHavoc'': The killer's plan requires a lot of things outside of their control to go right, such as one group of students finding [[spoiler:Hifumi playing dead]] and another group finding Kiyotaka's corpse at the same time [[spoiler:to trick the former into thinking Hifumi was actually dead]], nobody discovering planted evidence at the wrong time and so on. But ''unlike'' Nagito below, this doesn't work out entirely to their favor; the plan does go awry in a few instances, most notably when Asahina feels too sick to leave the infirmary and inadvertently forces [[spoiler:Hifumi to keep playing dead]], requiring the killer to improvise a way to get Asahina out of the room- which works, but [[spoiler:leaves a very narrow window of time for Celestia's fall guy to have supposedly moved Hifumi's corpse to the art storage room, which helps discredit her narrative]].
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''VisualNovel/Danganronpa2GoodbyeDespair'' has Nagito Komaeda, for whom the repeated use of this trope is ''completely justified'': his [[BornLucky Ultimate Good Luck]] means that any plan of his that depends on "just hope that the right thing will happen" ''will'' [[StoryBreakerPower reliably work]], and his plans generally rely on exploiting this fact by leaving some crucial element completely up to chance.
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* The vast majority of tabletop games rely on players doing this at least to some extent. Players build their plans on the assumption that [[RandomNumberGod dice rolls and deck draws]] will go their way or that other players don’t get in the way of their interests, and have to [[XanatosSpeedChess improvise when things go awry.]]
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'' parodies this in "[[Recap/FuturamaS4E18TheDevilsHandsAreIdlePlaythings The Devil's Hands Are Idle Playthings]]" -- the Robot Devil brags that his "ridiculously circuitous plan is one-quarter complete". The plan: 1) Trick Bender into accepting an air horn, 2) Hope that he deafens Leela with it, 3) Convince Leela to sign a deal with the devil with him for her hand (with a twist) 4) Use the threat of this to get his hands back from Fry. All just to get him back where he was at the start of the episode. Even more, he somehow managed to get Bender to trade his hind plate for the air horn so as to have the perfect comeback for his CatchPhrase!

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'' parodies this in "[[Recap/FuturamaS4E18TheDevilsHandsAreIdlePlaythings The Devil's Hands Are Idle Playthings]]" -- the Robot Devil brags that his "ridiculously circuitous plan is one-quarter complete". The plan: 1) Trick Bender into accepting an air horn, 2) Hope that he deafens Leela with it, 3) Convince Leela to sign a deal with the devil with him for her hand (with a twist) 4) Use the threat of this to get his hands back from Fry. All just to get him back where he was at the start of the episode. Even more, he somehow managed to get Bender to trade his hind plate for the air horn so as to have the perfect comeback for his CatchPhrase!catchphrase!

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'' parodies this in its ([[UnCanceled at the time]]) final episode -- the Robot Devil brags that his "ridiculously circuitous plan is one-quarter complete". The plan: 1) Trick Bender into accepting an air horn, 2) Hope that he deafens Leela with it, 3) Convince Leela to sign a deal with the devil with him for her hand (with a twist) 4) Use the threat of this to get his hands back from Fry. All just to get him back where he was at the start of the episode. Even more, he somehow managed to get Bender to trade his hind plate for the air horn so as to have the perfect comeback for his CatchPhrase!
* ''WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}}'': The episode "Metamorphosis." Xanatos plans to fake the death of his colleague Dr. Sevarius and get a mutated Derek Maza on his side requires that Derek jump in front of him to take the dart with the serum, the Gargoyles attack his lab at exactly the right moment before Derek is about to receive a "cure," for the cure to be destroyed in the struggle, and then for Sevarius to get knocked into his aquarium during the ensuing fight and somehow not receive a fatal charge from his ''two'' electric eels. Given that Sevarius was in on it and that Xanatos is otherwise a competent chessmaster they probably had other ways of making it work.
* In ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'', after Brainiac has been revealed to have been living in Lex Luthor for years, he states that he's been manipulating Lex Luthor into manipulating everything else so that he, and not Lex, could implant his mind into a duplicate of Amazo (or rather, a "more suitable body"). Really, he just installed a backup of his program into Lex and rolled with whatever came his way. This turns into Gambit Speed Chess when Lex takes advantage of being merged with an immortal robot in order to try and become a techno-organic god.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'' parodies this in its ([[UnCanceled at the time]]) final episode "[[Recap/FuturamaS4E18TheDevilsHandsAreIdlePlaythings The Devil's Hands Are Idle Playthings]]" -- the Robot Devil brags that his "ridiculously circuitous plan is one-quarter complete". The plan: 1) Trick Bender into accepting an air horn, 2) Hope that he deafens Leela with it, 3) Convince Leela to sign a deal with the devil with him for her hand (with a twist) 4) Use the threat of this to get his hands back from Fry. All just to get him back where he was at the start of the episode. Even more, he somehow managed to get Bender to trade his hind plate for the air horn so as to have the perfect comeback for his CatchPhrase!
* ''WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}}'': The episode "Metamorphosis." "Metamorphosis". Xanatos plans to fake the death of his colleague Dr. Sevarius and get a mutated Derek Maza on his side requires that Derek jump in front of him to take the dart with the serum, the Gargoyles attack his lab at exactly the right moment before Derek is about to receive a "cure," for the cure to be destroyed in the struggle, and then for Sevarius to get knocked into his aquarium during the ensuing fight and somehow not receive a fatal charge from his ''two'' electric eels. Given that Sevarius was in on it and that Xanatos is otherwise a competent chessmaster they probably had other ways of making it work.
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Brainiac has been revealed to have been living in Lex Luthor for years, he states that he's been manipulating Lex Luthor into manipulating everything else so that he, and not Lex, could implant his mind into a duplicate of Amazo (or rather, a "more suitable body"). Really, he just installed a backup of his program into Lex and rolled with whatever came his way. This turns into Gambit Speed Chess when Lex takes advantage of being merged with an immortal robot in order to try and become a techno-organic god.

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