Must be Monday. New podcast! Just click on the fancy logo below.
Flash Back With The Other Darrin
Above: Claudia Wells; Below: Elisabeth Shue
It's time for a Flashback
to a previous installment, but wait! That installment was made before you switched to The Other Darrin
. What do you do? Why, refilm the old scene with the new actor, of course!
open/close all folders
- The actors remained the same, but because legal issues prevented Weiss Kreuz Gluhen from using the original character designs, flashbacks to the previous series (and two photographs supposedly taken around that time) had to be redone with the new character designs.
- Rukia's flashback with her days of training with Kaien Shiba in Bleach was first seen in Episode 49. Then Kaien comes back in another form nearly 100 episodes later, This is all fine and well in the Japanese version where Toshihiko Seki reprises his role as Kaien...but Kaien's original dub voice actor, Kim Strauss, had left the show at this point. As a result, Dave Mallow was given the role (Strauss' other role; Sajin Komamura was also recast with J.B. Blanc) and when it came time for the flashbacks, Strauss' dialogue was dubbed over by Mallow.
- The Yu-Gi-Oh! dub replaced Mai's voice with one that was rather annoying, and when a flashback came up it too had been redubbed...although all flashbacks in the dub are always redubbed. You can tell whenever they redub a flashback of the "Exodia, Obliterate!" scene from Episode 1.
- Strangely, in this case, it was completely unnecessary. They replaced her with a very different voice actor to the extent that the little kids watching the show could tell the difference, but Mai had undergone a Face Heel Turn in between Seasons 3 and 4, when the voice was changed, so the Fanon explanation was that her voice changed as a result of the turn. Had 4Kids just gone along with this theory, they would have been fine (since Mai's only other appearance after she Heel Face Turns again was at the very end of Season 5, when she had no lines, and furthermore, 4Kids skipped over that scene in the dubbed version). They had every reason not to invoke this trope. But they insisted on redubbing the flashback to Season 1.
- The first episode of Tenchi Muyo!'s third OVA featured a flashback episode explaining events from the previous two OVAs. However, the voice actress for Ryoko had been replaced for the new series, so the flashback clips had been dubbed over with the new voice actress, Mona Marshall.
- During the English dubbing of Excel Saga, Excel actress Jessica Calvello blew out her voice and had to be replaced for the show's second half. During an episode late in the series, we flash back to the first episode, but Larissa Wolcott has recorded over Calvello's lines.
- Many anime which go through an Art Evolution will redraw the flashbacks to match the updated art. For example, the Pokémon anime once flashbacks to a scene with Pikachu and Ash's Caterpie. When the scene was first drawn, Caterpie had a green mouth; however, the flashback redrew Caterpie with its now-accepted yellow mouth.
- Speaking of Pokémon, the entire english cast was replaced in season 9 when another company took over. Thus many flashbacks have redubbed lines. A large inevitable one will be the episode Charizard rejoins, as a flashback to recap him has many characters who have been replaced, one in particular had sadly passed away since then. The trope also applied in the Japanese version for that episode, due to the fact that the original episodes were in 4:3 resolution, whereas Best Wishes is in 16:9.
- An unusual example, partly combined with Orwellian Retcon, comes from Gundam SEED C.E.73 Stargazer. Mamoru Miyano was brought in to play Shams Couza for the third and final episode after Hiroshi Kamiya was injured in a car accident. The DVD release has Miyano playing Shams in all three episodes, having re-recorded Kamiya's dialog for the first two episodes as well.
- This all became Hilarious in Hindsight a couple of years later thanks to Gundam 00, where the two actors play teammates, and Kamiya's character hates Miyano's at the start.
- Averted and played straight in the English dub of Ranma ˝. There were two respective flashback episodes in Seasons 1 and 4. In the first, Female Ranma's English actress Brigetta Dau had only done her voice for the first six episodes and Venus Terzo had been voicing her since then, but any clips from the episode that took place in Episodes 1-6 kept Brigetta's dialogue. During the second one, Richard Ian Cox had recently taken over the role of Male Ranma from Sarah Strange, and this episode featured several flashbacks to Season 1, so Male Ranma's dialogue was notably redubbed with Cox.
- In The Ghost of Frankenstein, there are flashbacks with footage from the original 1931 film with Colin Clive as Henry Frankenstein, (even though the ghost of Henry is played by a differant actor) yet, as Lon Chaney Jr. played the Monster in this film, new shots of Lon Chaney were inserted into the old footage, replacing Boris Karloff.
- The ending scene of Back to the Future is also the opening scene of Back To The Future Part II. Since Elisabeth Shue had replaced Claudia Wells as Jennifer, the scene was refilmed for the sequel. The re-shot version is nearly identical, with the only difference being that Doc Brown now hesitates momentarily before responding to Marty asking whether he and Jennifer end up as "assholes". You'll notice that they didn't even bother to match Shue's hairstyle with Wells's. Sure, most people didn't notice at first because of the four-year lag in Real Life, but if you watch the two films back to back it can be pretty jarring.
- Crispin Glover also didn't return, so in all refilmed 1955 scenes in Part II, George McFly is always seen from behind (except one shot of recycled footage viewed through Marty's binoculars).
- The Spear Carrier couple ("Who is that guy?" "That's George McFly...") also get replaced in Part II's 1955 scenes, as do most of the other 1955 extras (aside from Strickland, Lorraine's friend Babs, and all of the Starliters).
- Speaking of 1955 extras, the character Lester ("I think he took his wallet") was played by an unnamed extra in Part I, who could be seen crouching over Biff. Obviously, as Lester became a marginally Ascended Extra thanks to Marty's interference in Part II, he was Other Darrin'd for the sequel.
- Gidget Goes Hawaiian. The original Gidget featured Sandra Dee in the title role, but she was replaced by Deborah Walley in the sequel. Therefore, Gidget Goes Hawaiian recreated scenes from the first film with the redheaded Walley in place of the blonde Dee.
- Both the events that concluded Evil Dead 2 and the actress playing Linda changed in the flashback in Army of Darkness. This also applies to the events that concluded the original Evil Dead in the flashback at the beginning of 2.
- The beginning of Desperado features a flashback to the end of El Mariachi, with Antonio Banderas replacing Carlos Gallardo as the mariachi. It's pretty convincing, unless you've just watched the original film and notice how much the guy playing the villain has aged.
- The prologue to Darkman II The Return Of Durant. Technically it's the same footage as the first movie, but Liam Neeson has been replaced with the new actor via trick photography.
- Godzilla Vs Megaguirus does an interesting take on this. The beginning uses footage from the first film, Gojira, as part of the film's timeline history, but the original Godzilla is replaced with the modern suit. Justified in that Godzilla wasn't defeated by the Oxygen Destroyer in this timeline, so it is the same Godzilla in both 1954 and 2001.
- At least, not completely destroyed. While the opening newsreel implies that Godzilla just wandered off after attacking Tokyo, there's a line later on where a character says that "this time" they must make sure there's nothing left of Godzilla, that they can't make the same mistake again. So perhaps the idea was that he was nearly destroyed (or Oxygen Destroyed) and then regenerated.
- The Phantasm sequels all begin by partially reprising the closing scene of the previous film. Between Phantasm II and Phantasm III Lord Of The Dead Michael Baldwin had reclaimed his role of Mike from James Legros, so some shots from Phantasm II were redone and edited into the existing footage.
- In 2002 sequel "Firestarter 2: Rekindled", Charlie McGee is played by Margeurite Moreau. When she has flashbacks to the experiments that The Shop forced her to do as a child, the scenes were specially-shot new scenes; instead of simply reusing footage of Drew Barrymore playing the 9-year-old Charlie in the original 1984 film. There could be a couple of reasons for this - significantly better special effects in the intervening 18 years, or the higher picture quality of recording all-new scenes over reusing rather old footage.
- Or maybe it was cheaper to use a new actress than to pay Drew Barrymore for the reused footage.
- In The Dark Knight Rises, Bruce has a picture of his lost love Rachel Dawes. The picture is of Maggie Gyllenhaal (The Dark Knight) rather than Katie Holmes (Batman Begins).
- Daytime soaps, which recast regularly, often reshoot scenes with the new actors. Another method is to crop the flashback scenes to only show the consistent actors.
- All My Children reshot several old scenes after Rebecca Budig was replaced by Sabine Singh as Greenlee (only to bring back Budig months later and have the same problem again.)
- Hilariously and deliberately averted on One Life to Live with Blair. Initially played by an Asian actress, she was soon recast with blonde, blue-eyed Kassie De Paiva. At the funeral of her ex-husband Asa, as she and his eight other wives flashed back to their respective weddings, she flashed back to when the Asian Blair exchanged vows with him. Cue a very confused present-day Blair whipping out a mirror to double-check what she looked like.
- Also very poignantly averted whenever the actor has died, often necessitating the death of the character. Numerous flashbacks clearly intended to celebrate both the character and the actor will feature other characters who have long since been recast.
- The first time John Sheridan's wife Anna appeared on Babylon 5, she was played by Beth Toussaint. In future appearances, she was played by Melissa Gilbert, Bruce Boxleitner's actual wife; in a flashback scene to that original appearance, they reshot with Gilbert. J Michael Straczynski suggested he'd wanted to edit the original episode, but never did.
- Borderline example: In Farscape, Dargo's appearance changed dramatically at the end of Season 1, but the makeup guys couldn't be bothered to recreate the original look for the flashbacks.
- WKRP in Cincinnati did this in a flashback to the first episode, using the new actress for the station owner's mother. The characters also acted a bit differently to support the Retcon of Venus Flytrap's name being a mistake now, rather than the original intent.
- Twitch City initially did this when Mark McKinney took Bruce McCulloch's role, only to later have the talk show host character refer to his "on-air cranium transplant".
- Averted with Riding With Death, a TV movie edited from episodes of a failed 70's sci-fi series titled Gemini Man, which was later featured in Mystery Science Theater 3000. The first half of the "movie" features a flashback from the show's pilot in which Driscoll (the main character's boss) was played by Richard Dysart instead of William Sylvester (who played Driscoll in every other scene and in the series proper).
- Also averted by MST3K itself in the Hellcats episode, with Tom Servo (played by Kevin Murphy) having a flashback to an episode from the previous season (played by J. Elvis Weinstein). Even lampshaded by Servo, saying it was before his voice changed.
- Seinfeld refilmed an episode after Frank Costanza was recast. The effect was quite disconcerting considering the fact that the version of the character played by John Randolph was very different to the version played by Jerry Stiller.
- Buffy the Vampire Slayer flashed back to the events of The Movie, but with Sarah Michelle Gellar replacing Kristy Swanson and Richard Riehle replacing Donald Sutherland. The spinoff comic book used the TV likenesses of the characters for its adaptation, since the movie is not exactly canon.
- When Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman's Colleen was recast in Season 3, they re-shot the opening titles (originally scenes from Season 1) with a shot-by-shot redo using the new actress.
- The second and third installments of the Yang/Yin trilogy on Psych revolve around a picture of young Shawn with Yang. By the time the third episode of the trilogy was filmed, they had recast the "young Shawn" role due to the previous actor getting too old, so they retook the picture with the new actor for use in that episode.
- When ER recast several roles (Benton's ex's new husband, Mark's daughter), the establishing flashbacks were re-filmed with the new actor.
- The Six Million Dollar Man featured, inverted and ignored this trope.
- After Martin Balsam refused to reprise the role of Dr. Rudy Wells after one appearance in the original pilot movie, Alan Oppenheimer was cast. For the opening credits of the second and third pilot films, one of Balsam's scenes was reshot for the flashback. Yet Balsam was still visible in surgery room footage.
- Alan Oppenheimer quit after Season 2's introductory "The Bionic Woman" two-parter. Martin E. Brooks took over the role, requiring some flashbacks in "The Return of the Bionic Woman" to be reshot.
- For syndication the first pilot movie was reedited into a two-part story. Martin Balsam was brought back to record new voiceover dialogue, however footage of Martin E Brooks as Rudy was also featured and Brooks is still featured in the opening credits. Confused yet?
- In LOST, Desmond's photograph of Penny. Originally, the photograph featured Desmond (Henry Ian Cusick) and who looked to be Lisa Fraser, but when Penny is introduced as a character to the show outside of the photograph, subsequent uses of the photograph have Penny's actress Sonya Walger Photoshopped in instead. The DVD version of the episode the original photograph was in, Orientation, has the photo digitally replaced with Sonya Walger's version.
- The opening scene of the second season of Leonardo is the confrontation scene from the final episode of the first season but with James Clyde replacing Alistair McGowan as Piero de'Medici.
- Leon is (re)dubbed over in the flashbacks at the beginning of Kingdom Hearts II. The flashbacks in the game used the new Final Fantasy-cameo voice cast, most egregiously Aerith's soft, cute voice turning into a hazy stoner voice.
- Ansem/Xehanort's Heartless were also redubbed with a horrible grating voice in place of the smooth tones of the original game.
- This was done to match up with the new Big Bad, Xemnas. Odd because despite the two of them being technically the same guy they are also, in fact, two different characters.
- Very brief, but a small flashback in Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days featuring Kairi (the "Be sure to bring it back to me!" scene) was also redubbed to use Alyson Stoner as the character's new portrayer. The clip is particularly jarring because, in the original game, Kairi gave a sarcastic tone to the line, while in the flashback she is dramatically serious.
- Depending on how you look at it, it could be Fridge Brilliance: Since it's a memory of Sora's, it could mean he took the promise very seriously, so he remembers her as being serious too.
- The tutorial in the Season 2 of Sam And Max Freelance Police is the opening scene of the first episode of Season 1. As Max's voice actor had changed since then, Max's voice clips were rerecorded with the new actor.
- Mega Man Battle Network 5 manages to do this in a visual manner with a town. Lan's hometown of ACDC had been identical in the first three games of the series (the only major differences being which rooms and buildings were accessible), but the map changed in the Battle Network 4. Flashbacks in Battle Network 5 from long before the events of the first game show the town exactly as it appears from Battle Network 4 onwards.
- The flashbacks in Metal Gear Solid 4 were made up of about half-and-half dialogue from the PlayStation version of Metal Gear Solid, and the GameCube version (Twin Snakes). The dialogue from the GameCube version was used for characters whose accents had changed (such as Naomi's Ivy League accent and Mei Ling's pseudo-Chinese accent being dropped for conventional American ones) and the recasting of Rob Paulsen as Gray Fox instead of the original's Greg Eagles.
- This was a non-issue in the Japanese version due to the lack of accents in the Japanese versions and the fact that the GameCube version never had a Japanese dub (the Japanese version featured subtitled English dialogue), meaning that all the voice clips from the original Metal Gear Solid used in the Japanese version of Metal Gear Solid 4 are purely from the original PlayStation release.
- Happens a few times in Xenosaga Episode II, with both the voice cast AND the character models.
- Similarly, in Fire Emblem: Heroes of Light and Shadow, all flashbacks to Shadow Dragon use the new character models. It's particularly noticable with Caeda/Shiida, who gets a lot of them.
- Voice actress example in Starcraft II: all of Kerrigan's lines in the Battle of Tarsonis cutscene from the original, as recorded by the salvaged Confederate AI, were re-recorded by Tricia Helfer, as opposed to Glynnis Campbell who had provided the original voice; the other characters have kept their actors (or died, in Duke's case), and don't need changing.
- In the Syphon Filter series, in addition to Mara Aramov's appearance changing with her voice actors, her appearance also changed in the flashbacks of the third game.
- Happens somewhat regularly in World of Warcraft, in terms of spoken dialogue, owing to the original voice actors from the RTSes not being hired to reprise their role in the MMO. The finest example of this is The Culling of Stratholme, a temporal flashback dungeon that recreates an earlier RTS mission. All of Arthas' lines were lifted directly from Warcraft 3, but rerecorded by the new voice artist.
- Space Channel 5 Part 2's intro shows several scenes from the original Space Channel 5. The dialogue in these scenes has been redone by the new voice cast. (Only applies to the English version, as the Japanese version used the same cast for both games.)
- Any flashback of a scene previously depicted in [.hack//Roots], in the .hack//G.U. Games, is a case of this; the anime was dubbed in Canada, while the games were dubbed in California.
- Averted in Wesker's Report, a fictional documentary that served as an in-universe retrospective of the first three Resident Evil titles. The documentary is narrated by Richard Waugh, Wesker's voice actor from Resident Evil Code Veronica, but the footage taken from the first game still has Wesker voiced by his original actor.
- Played with in Final Fantasy IV The After Years as flashbacks/events that take place before the game use the original Super Nintendo character models and sprites.
- The Angry Video Game Nerd, in terms of settings: in real life, James Rolfe presumably moved into a family house with his wife, so the room where he does his reviews switched from an apartment to a basement. in one episode, Kyle Justin guest stars, and there are flashbacks of him writing down parts of the AVGN's rants hiding behind the couch. the rants in question came from reviews filmed in the old apartment, but you can clearly see that it's the basement that Kyle is in.
- In the Avatar The Last Airbender episode "The Western Air Temple", there's a flashback scene showing Zuko and Iroh a few weeks after their banishment, searching the temple to see if it's where the Avatar has been hiding. Iroh's voice actor had to be replaced during the second season, as Mako Iwamatsu passed away. Hearing the new voice come out in a scene set pre-S2 was very jarring for some fans.
- Men In Black: The Series has a flashback to the end of the first movie in the episode that features Edgar's brother Edwin. It'd be really awkward to flash back to a live-action movie in an animated series, so it was an animated version of it, with the series' voice actors. Although it's very heavily implied the the Movies as we know them are fictional accounts of the real events of the show. So this may or may not be a true example.
- Although, ironically, Vincent D'Onofrio, who played Edgar in the movie, voiced all of Edgar's Bug relatives on the animated series.
- A flashback episode of The Raccoons showed scenes from Season 1, but replace any of Melissa Raccoon's speaking parts with her then-current voice actress, Susan Roman (Linda Feige was the first actress to portray Melissa on the series).
- The Chaotic season finale episode before M'arrilion Invasion ended with a Cliff Hanger where hero Tom is accused of cheating and flees to Perim before an investigation can be launched. M'arrilion Invasion sported a completely different art style, and the "Last Time on Chaotic" segment at the beginning was done in the new style. (No change in voice actors, though, which probably just made it more surreal.)
- At least one Popeye Clip Show had the clips from the first few cartoons redubbed with the then-current actors.
- Averted in Re Boot. During the Season 4 flashbacks, Bob has his Season 1 voice, while outside the flashbacks Bob has his Season 3 voice. This is because Bob's original voice actor became available again for Season 4 and the writers wanted a justifiable way to get him back in the role. The in-universe explanation for this is that the Web damaged Bob's voice.
- The Fairly Odd Parents: In the Lower Deck Episode "The Big Scoop", which is "A Wish Too Far" from Chester's and A.J.'s perpective, they had to redub some scenes with the two boys. This was because in "A Wish Too Far" the original voice actors were Frankie Muniz and Haneef Ibrahim, but by this point in the series run Jason Marsden was the now the voice of Chester and Gary Leroi Gray was the voice of A.J. If one compares the two episodes, the difference between the voices can be pretty jarring.
- In Winnie The Pooh and Christmas Too!, Christopher Robin was voiced by Edan Gross. When the special was presented as a flashback in the Direct-to-Video movie A Very Merry Pooh Year, Christopher Robin's lines were redubbed by William Green.
- As part of getting kids interested in Pooh after the new film, Disney released some classic Pooh movie clips under the title "The Mini Adventures Of Winnie The Pooh." Most of the dialogue was redubbed by the current voice actors (except Kristen Anderson-Lopez for some reason). It's barely noticeable with Jim Cummings as Pooh, but very noticeable with the other voice actors. However, Roo kept his original voice in at least one clip from "The Tigger Movie." Christopher Robin kept Bruce Reitherman's singing voice (although all the speaking was still done by Jack Boultier) in one clip. Piglet also kept John Fiedler's voice in at least one clip from "Piglet's Big Movie," and Gopher's voice hasn't been redubbed, probably because there currently isn't anyone who does his voice.
- Madelyn Spaulding was still voiced by her original actress when she made her second appearance in Static Shock, but had a different character design. A flashback to her original appearance had Static in his Season Two outfit, but a younger version of "new" Madelyn, rather than original Madelyn.
- In the "Lessons in Love" episode of Sym-Bionic Titan, after Kimmy comes over to the Lunis house, there's a flashback to "Showdown at Sherman High." It's the first episode where Kimmy is voiced by Kari Wahlgren, but the flashback still has her voice as performed by Cassie Scerbo.
- Happens in Beforel Orel, in which Joe Unger plays Arthur Puppington, while Dino Stamatopoulos played him in the Moral Orel episode "Passing." Dino actually redubbed his line so Arthur now has Unger's accent.
- My Little Pony (G3): Near the end of its "run", Rainbow Dash had a voice swap (from Venus Terzo to Anna Cummer); and when "Rainbow Dash's Special Day", a Clip Show of the character with scenes from the previous movies, was released, Cummer redubbed all of Terzo's lines, thus making this Flashback With The Other Darrin: The Movie.