Jay: Maybe we can just ask him to shut down the church. If it's closed that day, uh, those guys can't get blessed or whatever, right?
Metatron: Good Lord, the little stoner's got a point!Even a Stopped Clock is right twice a day. A character who's normally Book Dumb and/or The Ditz comes up with a valuable insight. The character most often heard belittling their intelligence sighs heavily and concedes, "I Can't Believe I'm Saying This, but I agree with him." (Often adding, "And that scares me to death.") This can often be the result of pure chance; a wild guess turning out to be true, or Right for the Wrong Reasons. In other cases, this is because the dumbass isn't willing to rule out an option due to thinking it illogical at first, or lacks knowledge of something that would limit more intelligent characters' thinking and cause them to rule out the correct idea. Or sometimes, more intelligent characters are overthinking it and the simple guy is the only one to think of Stating the Simple Solution (especially if it involves Cutting the Knot). Also heard when two people of more or less equal intelligence, who normally disagree about everything on ideological grounds, find that there's one opinion they share. In other cases, the character with a valuable insight may be of a little less moral standing — in which case, this trope then becomes somewhat of an inversion of Your Approval Fills Me with Shame. Truth in Television, and can be seen between Vitriolic Best Buds and Internet-nemeses on Message Boards. Compare Actually Pretty Funny, Too Dumb to Fool, The Cuckoolander Was Right, Wisdom from the Gutter, Mistaken for Profound, I Have Nothing to Say to That, and Nobody's That Dumb. When the character is the subject of this reaction because they're mean, unlikable, or evil, it's Jerkass Has a Point. When the author intends to make a character's argument come across as wrong, but the readers agree, it's Strawman Has a Point. Related to Wisdom from the Gutter.
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- Shiro Kabuto from Mazinger Z and Great Mazinger was The Hero Kouji's Annoying Younger Sibling. Although sometimes he seemed Too Dumb to Live cause some stunts he pulled, he had good points from time to time. Boss also has a point more frequently than you'd expect. I.e., when Kouji refuses to help Sayaka after they have a fight and she takes off in Mazinger Z, Boss, Mucha and Nuke are the ones who urge him to stop whining and go for her.
- In Ranma ˝, Genma is not known for his brilliance when it comes to schemes, plots or ploys. In fact, it's usually quite the opposite. Keep in mind that this is the man who hauled himself and his son to a cursed training ground simply on the basis that he figured "cursed = dangerous = great place to train!" and who was stupid enough to buy into and teach his son the Nekoken. And yet, despite all this, Ranma is still perfectly willing to ask Genma for advice, because every so often, Genma says something that is either genuinely profound, or it's so stupid/off-kilter it actually becomes useful. This is played up a bit more in the anime - for example, it's Genma's comment about "looking with your gut" that lets Ranma see through Cologne's Splitting Cat Hairs technique, and it's also in the anime that Genma explicitly tells Ranma that he lost while fighting in female form because he doesn't play to that form's strengths. It's actually a fairly common thread among several of the characters. No matter how how stupid a character might otherwise be, they are still skilled martial artists. While Genma gets this role most often, Happosai will very rarely stop being a Dirty Old Man to actually be useful. Not for nothing is he the most powerful character on the show (Apart from the fact that he can be effectively vanquished by a bra).
- Pokémon deals with this in the form of Team Rocket in "A Lean Mean Team Rocket Machine". Jessie decides that Team Rocket should get back in shape. Her teammates, James and Meowth, remarked in unison, "Weird when she makes sense." As a side note, though, Jessie isn't stupid, and James is usually the team member who comes off as slightly less intelligent than his friends.
- Eyeshield 21, since most of the team are idiots (especially Taki). From rival team, Ootawara of Ojou White Knights is made for this trope.
- In the second Tenchi Muyo! movie, Mihoshi suggests that Mayuka is from the future. The rest of the cast begins to dismiss this idea until Washu confirms that she's correct. Subverted in that Mayuka was actually an Artificial Human designed to appear to be a Kid from the Future.
- Sgt. Frog - Natsumi agrees with Sarge on his directive that they should give the house a nice deep clean for New Year's. "And when I say I hate to say it, I mean it actually causes me intense physical pain."
- One Piece- During the Alabasta arc, Luffy points out to Vivi that simply beating up Crocodile would be the best thing to do, instead of trying to stop the rebels from fighting (which would cost many more lives). Often times, Luffy knows that beating up the biggest bad guy solves the problem faster. He did this as well in Enies Lobby, zeroing in on Lucci, the strongest member of CP9 and the biggest threat.
- He also mentions that people will die no matter what Vivi does, a surprisingly realistic observation for him that the other crew members don't contest.
- At the beginning of the series, soon after gaining the Going Merry, they save Zoro's old friend Yosaku who was suffering scurvy. When Nami notes that they need someone who knows their way around food, Luffy immediately jumps to the realization they need a cook, an idea so sensible everyone agrees with him (unusual for Luffy), setting up the Baratie Arc and the eventual recruitment of Sanji.
- In Water 7, upon learning the Going Merry was on her last legs, Luffy made the tough call to seek out a new ship. Usopp disagreed to the point of abandoning the crew and challenging Luffy one-on-one for ownership of the Merry. Luffy chose to go through with it, and when Nami asked why he isn't trying to stop it, Luffy pointed out that he knew Usopp was dead serious about it and wouldn't be convinced any other way. Despite her misgivings, she didn't argue with him anymore.
- While Zoro's not stupid per se, he does often come off as not much smarter than Luffy because he makes reckless decisions on a whim. However, he was the one crewmate who opposed Usopp's rejoining into the crew, on the grounds that he disrespected Luffy. Though he constantly belittles Luffy, he notes that if a crew can't respect its captain (or if the captain doesn't deserve their respect), they're not fit to be a crew. Even Sanji, who normally mocks or disagrees with what Zoro says, agreed with him. To Luffy's credit (a guy who normally does his own thing on a whim), he got the point and agreed, too. And it worked. Realizing he really did run the risk of being abandoned, Usopp finally came clean and apologized.
- Sanji has a reaction to this effect when Zoro comes up with a two-layered identifying system to help them tell whether someone is Mr. 2 in disguise.
- In the fourth episode of Tiger & Bunny, Barnaby expresses shock upon the discovery that he and Kotetsu actually agree on something ("We didn't become heroes because we want praise and appreciation.")
- In the Kakashi Gaiden arc, when Rin is captured, the (then) Insufferable Genius Kakashi suggests that the enemy will make use of Rin's medic-nin skills to heal their wounded (as an argument against going to save her), while Obito, who is not very bright by comparison suggests that the enemy won't think to use her that way and will interrogate her for information on their mission (as an argument for going to save her). Obito turns out to be right.
- During the second stage of the Chunin Exam, Team 7 are attacked by Orochimaru, disguised as another examinee. Seeing how outclassed they are, Sasuke moves to give Orochimaru his scroll (The teams that have a Heaven and Earth scroll pass, and Orochimaru had the other one), but Naruto stops him, pointing out that there's no guarantee that someone so Obviously Evil will just be satisfied with a scroll. Orochimaru admits this, as his real goal was infecting Sasuke with his curse mark.
- In the Konoha 11 filler arc, Naruto and Choji, two of the less intelligent members of the team, suggest that the old man who turned out to be infiltrating the village was not a bad person because he likes ramen. It turns out that he had, because of his friendship with Naruto, replaced all the explosive paper tags with harmless ones to make it a scavenger hunt like he had enjoyed with his son.
- Axis Powers Hetalia has America and Britain fighting until France points out they still have a meeting.
Britain: That's weird. France actually made a rational point.
- In the Ace Attorney Investigations manga, Thomas Bester, a Clueless Detective who rivals even Gumshoe, accuses Edgeworth and Amadeus Seal (an art scholar) of being members of the Gentlemen Thieves because they are well-dressed individuals. It turns out that the Amadeus Seal whom Edgeworth met that night was, in fact, one of the thieves in disguise.
- In Bleach, Makizou Aramaki, a drunken and not very bright member of 11th Company, accosts Uryu and Orihime while they are sneaking around the Seireitei in Soul Reaper uniforms. When they claim to be from 11th Company, he checks the inside of Uryu's uniform (something a previous 9th Company officer had failed to do), and sees 12th Company's insignia on it, and later asks why they aren't carrying their zanpakutos, since no one in 11th Company would ever go without them. Aramaki gets knocked out by some 12th company members who claim to be friendly to Uryu and Orihime, but Uryu realizes that Aramaki was actually right, and manages to warn Orihime in time to save them from Mayuri's trap.
- In Heaven's Lost Property, Astraea is one of the dumbest characters ever, but she has some amazing insight at times. For example, when she, Ikaros, and Nymph are getting their asses handed to them by Zeta/Hiyori, Astraea is the first to suggest attacking the machinery around Zeta instead of trying to take her on directly. It doesn't take Zeta out, but it does help.
- In Code Geass, during the infamous Betrayal episode, it falls to Tamaki of all people to say "Why the hell should we listen to the freaking commander of the enemy forces?! Even if what he says is true and Zero's a Britannian prince, he's gotten us this far and is a hell of a lot more trustworthy than the Emperor's favorite son!". His points are briefly considered, but end up being thrown out the window when Ohgi comes in and confirms that Zero/Lelouch has a Mind Control power and might have been brainwashing them this whole time (he wasn't).
- Miura, who is not one of the better editors, and who is often distrusted by the main characters for his belief that they would be better off doing gag manga, immediately notices that something's off about a chapter of Detective Trap that they wrote, and realizes that they were using fan suggestions in a desperate attempt to avoid cancellation. He gives them a lecture, saying that the writers don't necessarily represent the entire readership, who largely expect the same shonen-style stories as always. The main characters realize he has a point, even if they ultimately don't succeed in saving Detective Trap.
- Connie from Attack on Titan is a bit of a Book Dumb ditz (ex. he thinks the heart is on his right side of his body). But when he gives an accurate assessment about Trost that everyone is stuck until they can resupply, Jean mentioned it's good that he is using his head for once.
Connie: Protecting you is the only thing Ymir works hard at! I don't know how Ymir's going to get herself killed, but you two need to calm down. It should be obvious that you're both much more likely to die if you stay here. Even an idiot would be able to figure that much out...
- And again in chapter 49, he managed to talk Krista out of a dangerous situation by analyzing the reason behind her best friend's actions. This time, he lampshaded it.
- In the end of K: Return of Kings, when Misaki saves Saruhiko from JUNGLE and they finally repair their friendship (or something more), Saruhiko asks why Misaki is no longer angry with him for betraying the Red Clan. Misaki says it's because if he'd go on this dangerous mission for the Blue King, then he is loyal, because the Blue King was his king all along.
Saruhiko: [Misaki]'s simple-minded, stupid, ignorant, and doesn't get a thing... And yet somehow, he's able to come up with the perfect answer. No wonder I'd go through all this trouble just for him.
- In one of the Giffen/DeMatteis Justice League of America stories: Blue Beetle says "Booster was right!" in one panel and in the next is muttering "'Booster was right'? I can't believe I said that!"
- In one volume of the short-lived Super Mario Bros. comic book:
Mario: You know what bothers me about Wooster's betrayal?Toad: The sheer, heinous, enormity of it?Mario: No. It means the King was right about something!
- That case is subverted, though, because it turns out Wooster wasn't betraying them at all.
- From issue #32 of Archie Comics' Sonic the Hedgehog:
Sonic: [regarding Mobie the cave-bear] We should've left the big dope frozen!Antoine: For once, Sonic is right! He is ze librarian!Sally: I think you mean barbarian, Antoine!
- Asterix the Gaul's best bud, Obelix, is ordinarily the Dumb Muscle of the group. He does occasionally have ideas that actually save the day, when he figured out that, since he took a horse, Cacophonix the bard went on a long journey, meaning he went to Luteia as he earlier considered to try his hand at professional singing. Druid Getafix, surprised at the dumb but lovable hero's insight, stated "That boy does have his moments!"
- In Ultimate X-Men, during the "Return to Weapon-X" arc, Sabretooth is fighting Wolverine, when it occurs to Sabretooth that nobody has ever thought of drowning Wolvie, and that a Healing Factor would be pretty useless against such a predicament.
- In Injustice: Gods Among Us, Green Arrow takes Harley Quinn to his hideout to protect her from a rampaging Superman. When she hears that it's named the Arrowcave, Harley says it's not a very good namenote ; "Batcave" works because that's where bats live, so Arrow should name his place "The Quiver". Ollie's response is "That...is actually a better name." Black Canary also agrees when Harley brings up the subject to her.
- In issue two of Archie's Sonic Boom, Amy Rose is shocked that Knuckles is working with Eggman. Knuckles tells her that he's doing so because he's tired of her picking on him. When she goes Grammar Nazi on him over a minor flub, he blows up, roaring "THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!"
- In Metaverse Sirius tries to buy the Daily Prophet in order to stop it from slandering Harry and himself, only to be turned down. His wife Helga, who used to be a house elf, suggests that if he can't buy the paper, then he should buy their paper. (I.e., their future supply of printing paper.)
- Naruto in Be A Realist doesn't want to know who his parents are. Simply he prefers the idea that they loved him and wanted to take care of him but died for some reason. The idea that they were alive and abandoned him is simply too depressing. Sasuke finds it stupid that Naruto would not want to know where he came from, and Sai suggests that knowing his parents might also help him know what he could inherit from them, but Kakashi knows that Naruto is actually right.
- In the Love Hina story Girls in the Mist, when Motoko notes how often Keitaro has an accident, Keitaro responds that despite the frequency of said accidents, none of the girls ever move out of the way. Motoko admits he does have a point.
- Xander's explanation in ''And Another Thing I Hate About You" of why a relationship between Angel and Cordelia would never work makes far more sense than Angel is comfortable admitting. Particularly when he explains what would happen if a being with Cordelia didn't break the curse (by giving him a moment of perfect happiness).
Xander: "Cordelia Chase. Junior Miss California, seventh grade. May Queen, Queen of Sunnydale High 1996, prettiest girl in Sunnydale eighteen years running. Miss 'I have to have the most expensive thing not because it's the best, but because it's expensive'. Used to nothing but the very best of everything for all her life, until maybe lately. And then she gets slapped in the face with the fact that the guy she maybe falls in love with isn't, can't be, doesn't get a rush of perfect fucking happiness just from being with her. Long term? Man, that knowledge would eat at and fucking destroy her."Angel: "She's stronger than that."Xander: "She shouldn't have to be... I dunno much. But I do know: when you love someone, it's not about you. It's your whole fucking world wrapped up in what's best for them, and what makes them happiest. It's reaching for the moon, just because it's there, and it makes their eyes glow. When you love someone, really love them: you don't make them settle. You just don't."
- While far from a genius, Ranma quickly realizes there is something very wrong with the Mass Effect universe in The Effect of a Horse and a Dragon. First is that there seems to be almost no technological difference between civilizations (whereas back in his own time/world there could be massive differences between neighboring countries). Second, since most objects he finds randomly laying around tend to be magical and/or cursed, he's incredibly leery of the idea that the Council simply found the Citadel, moved in, and started using it without understanding anything about the place. Likewise, Herb is highly unnerved that humanity eschewed all other forms of technological advancement after discovering eezo. Both him and Ranma find Elemental Zero fundamentally wrong though they aren't sure why.
- In the Buffy the Vampire Slayer/Marvel crossover Blue Belle, Harmony and Brittany (the former considered too dumb to walk and chew gum at the same time and the latter only marginally smarter) figure out what book was stolen by a vampire before anyone else by simply checking off every book on the card index they can find. Giles even admits he wouldn't have thought of something so simple.
- In Lacking an Anchor, Xander disproves Superman's worries about Xander and Powergirl dating, or more accurately having sex, by getting into a fist fight with Supes in a hallway filled with cheap red lightbulbs and some random green rocks. Because Superman thinks he's been Brought Down to Normal, he fights like normal human and takes damage like one. Xander explains after that Kryptonian powers work on their subconscious desires (ie, they won't hurt someone on accident if they don't want to).
- In Xendra, Xander realizes what Buffy didn't: why their group has drifted apart so much in the last year. Namely, due to a number of things happening (almost none of which is actually anyone's fault), all the Scoobies feel like the rest of the group has betrayed them at some point.
- Earlier, Xander's the one to realize why Buffy can never get the names of various demons and vampires right: she has a brain disorder that makes it difficult for her to understand anything that isn't said in her native language. So words like Kakistos and Cruciamentum are completely beyond her. It's also why she was failing French before spending Halloween as a French noblewoman.
- In the Frozen AU story And I Saw the Beast upon a Cold World, the uneducated Kristoff points out the flaws in Elsa's plan to speed through her education by excelling by telling her that "If you dig the best ditches it just means they give you a bigger shovel." As Elsa learns, excelling just means her tutors teach her more.
- In Dark Arts and Crafts, Xander has two surprisingly insightful moments regarding Angel. First, while they do know now that Angel is a vampire, he's also been helpful in the past so they should reserve judgment until they know more. Second, Xander notes that redemption is more than just helping someone because you hurt someone else.
Xander: "Being a good person is like jumping in a lake. When you're wet, you're wet. And being dry now doesn't change the fact you were wet earlier."
Film — Animated
- In Disney's 101 Dalmatians, Horace isn't the sharpest tool in the shed but by assuming dogs think the way humans do (which in this movie, they do), he is constantly suggesting what the dogs are up to in order to evade them. He's almost always right but Jasper won't have any of it.
- Sid in the Ice Age series, most notably in the second film, where he calls Diego out on his fear of water, and tells Manny that he should forget his tragic past and pursue a relationship with Ellie.
- Mr. Tweedy in Chicken Run is convinced beyond reason that the chickens are plotting a master escape plan. Of course, he's right.
Mr. Tweedy: Mrs. Tweedy! The chickens are revolting!Mrs. Tweedy: Finally something we agree on.
- In The Nut Job, when Raccoon is questioned on why he's locking the other characters in the van, he stalls and then launches into a speech saying that it's all Surly's fault and they have to get rid of him for the good of the park. Grayson responds by saying that he didn't answer the question.
Film — Live Action
- Animal House:
Bluto: What the fuck happened to the Delta I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? This could be the greatest night of our lives, but you're gonna let it be the worst. "Ooh, we're afraid to go with you Bluto, we might get in trouble." Well just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this. Wormer, he's a dead man! Marmalard, dead! Niedermeyer...Otter: Dead! Bluto's right.[Other characters look at each other in amazement]Otter: Psychotic, but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards.
- In Dogma, the characters are considering how to keep two fallen angels from entering a church and undoing reality. When Jay says that they should "just ask [Cardinal Glick] to close the church," Metatron exclaims, stunned, "My God! The little stoner's got a point!" Subverted in that it doesn't work at all, although Jay later provides another character with a Eureka Moment, saving the day.
- In Homeward Bound: The Incredible Journey, this overlaps with a Eureka Moment: Shadow calls Chance a genius for giving him an idea. Chance's rebuttal is: "No, I'm not! What's a genius?"
- In the Coen Brothers' remake of The Ladykillers, Tom Hanks' character thinks aloud as he tries to come up with an elaborate scheme to deal with Stephen Root's character, a potential obstacle to their heist. The dumb jock character tries to interject with an idea, only to be silenced several times by Hanks. When he is finally allowed to speak, he asks "couldn't we just bribe the guy?" It works.
- In Withnail & I, when Withnail observes that he and Marwood are on a downward spiral, Marwood even says (in voiceover), "Even a stopped clock is right twice a day."
- In Star Trek, when young Kirk (who up to this point has been depicted as an ignorant jackass) presents an idea to Captain Pike, Spock supports him: "The cadet's logic is sound".
Hudson: There's something. It's inside the complex. [snip] They're inside the perimeter. They're in here. [snip]Vasquez: Hudson may be right.
- Hudson and Vasquez have insulted each other previously, and Hudson has acted stupidly/foolishly throughout the movie. Once the aliens infiltrate the complex:
- In the extended cut, Hudson is the one who first theorizes the possible existence of a xenomorph queen.
- In Nick and Norah's Infinite Playlist, only Caroline, who has spent the evening entirely sloshed, figures out that the clue to the location of the "Where's Fluffy" performance given out on the radio is an address.
- Hud has his moment in Cloverfield. He suggests getting into a near collapsed building by going up the adjacent building that it's leaning against, and walking across the roof.
- Towards the ending of Notting Hill, Will has turned Down Anna Scott, the woman he loves, with the reasoning that her celebrity life would just get in the way for them, and his friends attempts to comfort him by telling him he made the right decision. Enter Cloudcuckoolander Spike who, upon hearing the news, immediately calls him a "daft prick!"
- Maybe some people would not call a 19 year old college kid who protests against Vietnam War a Dumbass or a Jerkass, but Nixon certainly does:
Richard M. Nixon: She got it, Bob. 19-year-old college kid.H. R. Haldeman: What? Who?Richard M. Nixon: She understood something it's taken me 25 years in politics to understand. The CIA, the Mafia, those Wall Street bastards...H. R. Haldeman: Sir?Richard M. Nixon: The Beast. 19-year-old kid. She called it a wild animal.
- While not a complete dumbass, Maxwell Smart isn't the brightest of bulbs. However, there is an exchange in the 2008 film adaptation of Get Smart that plays with this in a scene where Smart is trying to infiltrate the KAOS command and encounters Siegfried and Shtarker... although to be fair, in this case it's less "The Dumbass Has A Point" than "The Dumbass Makes Sense To Other Dumbasses."
Siegfried: How do I know you're not CONTROL?Maxwell: If I were CONTROL, you'd already be dead.Siegfried: If you were CONTROL, you'd already be dead.Maxwell: Well, neither of us are dead, so obviously I'm not from CONTROL.[Beat]Shtarker: That actually makes sense.
- In The Three Stooges short subjects, Moe would often comment "You're pretty smart for a guy with no brains" or "You're pretty smart for an imbecile" whenever Larry or Curly (later Shemp) had a good idea.
- Detective Greenly in Boondock Saints is firmly established as an idiot in the eyes of FBI agent Paul Smecker for wrongly deducing two Russian monsters were "... serial crushed by some huge friggin' guy." However, Greenly manages to correctly deduce the motives of the brothers, as well as the nature of the hitmen sent after them... only to get immediately shut down by Smecker.
- Mike in Black Sheep (1996) is the first (and perhaps only) to realize that the vote count for Garfield county is almost 400 more than the number of registered voters (1882 vs 1502)
- In Home Alone 2, at the climax, Marv warns Harry that they should leave when he notices all the pigeons. He proves right when the pigeon lady appears.
- In The White, the Yellow, the Black, Sakura may be a foolish Ethnic Scrappy, but he is the most politically correct of the trio when it comes to race.
- The second version (two characters who constantly disagree with each other, but are otherwise intelligent) happens in the denouement of 1632. The most outspoken conservative and most outspoken liberal on the town's leadership committee reflect on the alliance being forged by the town's president and King Gustavus Adolphus and find themselves in rare agreement that neither of them likes the deal being made, but if it must happen, they're glad to know who is doing it.
- The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
- In the first book, when Zaphod, Trillian and Ford panic as they fall towards Magrethea with two nuclear missiles coming for them and no propulsion, Arthur's suggestion to use the Infinite Improbability Drive is dismissed as a risk because "without proper programming, anything could happen!" Arthur points out that they're definitely going to die otherwise. He turns it on, turning the missiles into a sperm whale and a bowl of petunias. Zaphod praises him for his thinking, but takes it back after he says "It was nothing really."
- In The Restaurant at the End of the Universe, when the group are trying to understand how they ended up at the Restaurant at the End of the Universe, Arthur suddenly has a flash of insight about time travel, saying that they've travelled in time but not in space. Zaphod mocks him but the waiter interrupts: "Your monkey has got it right, sir."
- Appears again in the radio series when the group steal a ship from the Restaurant At the End of the Universe car park. Arthur deduces that the ship must have been programmed to return to the time it left, and he's right.
- Despite the fact that The Ditz-y Maiden Aunt Leonella in The Monk is generally ridiculous, she immediately dislikes Ambrosio and points out that his sermon was severe, stern, and frankly terrifying, all of which hint at his true nature before be becomes the viewpoint character.
- Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea: Chapter after chapter, Idiot Hero Book Dumb Ned Land opines Captain Nemo is a despot and the Power Trio must attempt the Great Escape as soon as possible. The Professor Aronnax and Battle Butler Conseil are impressed with Nemo and their incredible voyage, and it is not until they see Nemo crossing the Moral Event Horizon that they realize Ned was the Only Sane Man.
- Vicar Allayn Maigwair is repeatedly remarked as the least intelligent among the Safehold antagonists known as the Group of Four. His actions, such as wasting time and resources building ships that had been outclassed by the protagonists, confirm this. Yet, it is his idea to engage in subterfuge intended to make the Empire of Charis think they were sending their newly built fleet to one location when they had a separate target. Even with their near omnipotent spying capabilities, this trick catches the Charisian leadership entirely flat-footed.
- In Paper Towns, Ben suggests that Margo is being completely literal when she quotes Whitmans "Unscrew the doors from their jambs", Radar's response is, "Sometimes, he's so retarded that he becomes kind of brilliant."
- When Brandon delivers his San Francisco speech in The Leonard Regime.
- Generation Kill: Pearson's stimulant- and sleep-deprivation-fueled rants seem to be just that at first, but if you pay more attention to what he says than how he says it, his ranting is surprisingly insightful.
- Noob: As much of a complete moron Sparadrap is, he actually makes a good point that Arthéon's Unstoppable Rage-induced guild disbanding was entirely pointless and selfish.
- On the Australian music quiz show Spicks and Specks the host Adam Hills once said to Alan Brough (one of the team captains), "I never thought I'd say this, Alan, but listen to Hamish. He's right!" For those not in the know, Hamish Blake is almost literally a Real Life Joke Character on the show.
- Red Dwarf":
Lister: I think he's got something.The Cat: Twice in one lifetime? When you're hot, you're hot!
- Everybody but Rimmer goes with Lister's idea to play pool with planets. Neither agree with him, but Kryten's programming forces him to side with the living human over the Virtual Ghost, and the Cat refuses to support Rimmer because of his miserable fashion sense. (It does work.)
- In another episode, the gang decides to follow the Cat's advised course of action in dealing with a ship of hostile Simulants, prompting the Cat to reply "You're going to go with one of my plans? Are you nuts?! What happens if we all get killed? I'll never hear the last of it!" (It does work. Again.)
- From the same episode, Cat comes up with another plan, get shot down by Rimmer, but vindicated by Lister:
- Also, when Lister, after a history reboot, suggest they pick up a time machine they found before the reboot and use it again to go back in time to buy curries, Rimmer insist they must leave the time machine alone. Cat responds: "You know I'd rather wear sideways-pressed flares and a clip-on polyester tie than agree with Goalpost-Head... but this time he's right." Sure enough, when Lister ignores him, their mistakes end up radically altering human history, and to top it all off Lister forgets the curries.
- In one episode of Cheers, Sam actually admits to his own stupidity in an episode where everyone is frightened of a fortune telling machine and he tries to talk sense into them.
Sam: Come on, people! Isn't it kind of pathetic when I'm the voice of reason around here?
- In an episode of Veronicas Closet, Veronica is discussing her company's overproduction of swimsuits, which has resulted in heaps of useless leftover stock now that it's winter. Her oafish, hated ex-husband, who happens to be passing through the room, jokes that they should ship the lot to Australia — "It's summer there." Veronica's assistant timidly suggests:
Olive: Bryce's idea-Veronica: Is stupid?Olive: Actually, it could work.Veronica: But it won't, because it's stupid?
- In the (BBC's) Robin Hood episode "Who Shot the Sheriff", Roy admits to agreeing with "cheese boy", i.e. Much.
- In the Deadwood episode "Amateur Hour," the cunning Al Swearengen puzzles over a pictorial message from Wu. When resident slack-jaw Johnny Burns takes a look, he's able to immediately decode it. His ego obviously bruised, Al responds by punching Johnny in the face.
- Hannah Montana
- When Oliver claims to have an idea, even when he promises that it's a good one, everyone with half a braincell runs for the hills. Once he asked quite reasonably why he and Lilly were hiding behind a cardboard cutout when it was only Jackson and Miley that couldn't afford to be spotted by their dad, prompting Lilly to remark "Oh, Oliver, you sweet naive boy... with a very good point" before taking off.
- Another episode had a ditzy television host sum up the Aesop in a thoughtful and beautiful way... causing Hannah, her father, his co-host, and the entire audience to look at him shocked.
- The comparable-intelligence, ideologically-opposed version happens in the early The West Wing episode "Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics". The President has a sit-down with a key Republican named Lobel where the two (quite cheerfully) express their general loathing for one another's politics and list their many disagreements, but they make it clear that there is one issue they agree on - campaign finance reform. The president offers to get Lobel onto the FEC if he'll support Bartlett's other candidates. Asked what Lobel gets in return, Bartlett replies "a grateful President"; Lobel promptly accepts.
- On NewsRadio, Dave informs the staff that there will be massive budget cuts, and then Bill McNeal stands up and says that they should all tighten their belts and support the decision. Dave (who's more used to Bill raising a commotion) says, "Well thank you Bill, for that... uncharacteristically well-reasoned outburst." Of course, Dave was right to be instantly suspicious of a reasonable Bill McNeal... The reason the station is overbudget is because Bill has just received a massive pay increase.
- On Charles in Charge, Buddy Lembeck does this to himself.
Buddy: [describes a bizarre event that unfolded exactly as he had predicted] Isn't that weird?Charles: What do you mean? You were right.Buddy: I know, that's what's weird.
- Major John Casey, any time Chuck Bartowski says something sensible-in the first two seasons, at least.
- Any time Spencer comes up with an idea on iCarly, Carly generally reacts in this way.
- Jack Carter in Eureka, being the normal guy in a town of geniuses, is frequently on the receiving end of this.
- One episode of Big Wolf on Campus has Tommy and Merton trying to figure out what an evil cyborg school counsellor (It Makes Sense in Context) is going to do next. Merton makes a sarcastic remark on how they don't know what his plans are, only for Tommy to suggest looking in the file marked "day planner".
- "Sarcasm withdrawn..."
- On Father Ted, when Ted is Mistaken for Racist, Father Dougal surprises everyone, including himself, by coming up with the solution to the problem. (Hold a festival of diversity). This is particularly distressing for Dougal, who insists that there must be some Fatal Flaw neither of them have realised yet.
- In M*A*S*H, when a general's prized gun turned up missing and Radar was about to take the fall for the theft, Hawkeye and BJ confronted Major Burns, who openly admired the gun when he saw it. Burns refused to answer their questions and accused them of convicting him without a trial, asking, "What happened to 'innocent until proven guilty'?" After Burns left, Hawkeye turned to BJ and asked, "Don't you hate it when he's right?" Subverted, because Burns really was the thief.
- Happens occasionally on Friends, usually with respect to Joey. For example, when discussing Rachel's inappropriate crush on her assistant,
Joey: The big question is, does he like you? Because if he doesn't like you this is all a moo point.Rachel: Huh. A moo point?Joey: Yeah. Like a cow's opinion. It doesn't matter. It's moo.Rachel: Have I been living with him too long or did that just make sense?
- Buffy the Vampire Slayer
- During the Second Season finale the Scoobies discover a way to return Angel's soul, thus stopping Angelus. Xander's reaction is "I don't care, Angel needs to die," pointing out that Buffy is "ignoring Miss Calendar's murder just so you can get your boyfriend back". While the actual ethics of whether or not Angel can be held liable for Angelus' actions can be debated back and forth (and the show itself seems to take the position that he can't be) Xander is still correct in pointing out that Buffy visibly doesn't care about what Angelus has done, which is a tad self-centered of her.
- Xander is also the only person in the room making the valid point that Willow is an inexperienced spellcaster attempting a magical ritual requiring power well beyond anything she's ever shown before and that she's going to try and do it while in the hospital with a concussion — i.e., she has no realistic chance to successfully cast the ensouling spell and every chance of killing herself trying. Of course Willow does manage to pull it off in the end, but that's because she had the writer on her side.
- In the penultimate episode of season 4, Xander makes a suggestion half-jokingly and catches Giles' look to which Xander says "Yeah, don't tell me. I'm just full of helpful suggestions." Giles says "As a matter of fact, you are."
- In the Firefly episode "Out Of Gas", Jayne, of all people, tells Wash and Mal to stop fighting because they're using up more air than if they were calm.
- In Misfits, when Simon and Alisha think it's their moral duty to try and defeat a demented criminal who's been terrorizing their neighborhood, cloudcuckoolander Nathan responds with: "Listen guys, I think I speak for all of us when I say - we are lazy and incompetent. We're practically handicapped! Leave it to the Police. They get paid to get shot." In the stunned silence that follows, Curtis admits: "I never thought I'd say this, but he's talking sense."
- In the Community episode "The Politics Of Human Sexuality" Pierce demonstrates unexpected maturity, wisdom and humility in both discussing Jeff's and his own experiences with women at the end.
Jeff: ...Oh, I'm sorry, I was waiting for that to become inappropriate or racist.
- Pierce actually does this quite a few times in the series. The election episode contains a standout - he becomes very profound, but it takes being stabbed in the face with a pencil.
- In Horror Fiction In Seven Spooky Steps, after Britta did a psychological evaluation that "proved" one of them had homicidal tendencies, Pierce is the one to point out that in over two years they've been together, they would have picked out something before now.
- The Golden Girls used to play this for laughs a lot with Rose, since she was the one who seemed dumb all the time. Also played straight in the episode with Dorothy's gambling problem. Dorothy gets so bad that she lies to Rose about needing money and Rose gives Dorothy her bank card. Dorothy asks Rose if she realizes that she's stealing her own money, and Rose says "I know."
- Breaking Bad: Walter White and company need to destroy some evidence on a laptop sitting in police evidence. Mike and Walter debate whether to skip town or try to blow up the evidence locker. As they argue, the show's resident Butt Monkey Jessie Pinkman continuously points out that they could simply wipe the laptop's hard drive with a magnet. After a while, Walt finally listens and they all decide to go with Jessie's plan.
- Done by Joffrey Lannister of all people in Game of Thrones, got one of these a season until he died. Of course, this is not helped by Joffrey's inclination towards ridiculing, humiliating, and dominating those around him, even to people where it's not wise to do so, especially his grandfather.
- Season One: He points out how counter-productive a feudal system is towards maintaining a strong, centralised state and suggests forming a nationalised military loyal to the state itself. While a fair observation in itself (given that it's the reason half the country currently wants to kill him), his solutions towards implementing such a system are less well-thought out.
- Season Two: He points out that with the Greyjoys tearing at Robb Stark's flank, an attack by the Lannisters would wipe them out. He's right, but he's also forgetting the small fact that Stannis Baratheon is about to hit King's Landing very much the way a sledgehammer hits an egg.
- Season Three: When consulting his grandfather Tywin in the throne room, Joffrey voices his concerns about Daenerys Targaryen and her three dragons. Tywin brushes the threat aside, but the viewer has already seen that Daenerys, her dragons and her army are a real threat.
- Derek uses this as one of its central tropes. Derek is simple-minded, but devoid of malice and pretension, and although he misunderstands things a lot of the time, he makes salient and succinct (if naive) points at other times about the benefits of kindness and being grateful for what you have.
- Baldrick manages one in Blackadder:
Baldrick: Well my cousin Bert Baldrick, Mr Gainsborough's butler's dogsbody, says that he's heard that all portraits look the same these days, 'cause they're painted to a romantic ideal rather than as a true depiction of the idiosyncratic facial qualities of the person in question.Blackadder: [impressed] Your cousin Bert obviously has a larger vocabulary than you do, Baldrick.
- His descendant fighting in the First World War at the Battle of the Somme brings up the solution of just stop the fighting, stop the killing and go home. His superior officer George doesn't like it and declares such talk bolshevism. Baldrick asks him why it's a bad idea to stop the pointless fighting. George couldn't bring up a single argument and just ordered Baldrick to go polish their boots in the end.
- Another moment in series 4 had Blackadder forced to paint a picture of the German trenches in the middle of No Man's Land. George absentmindedly mentions imagining things, which gives Blackadder the idea to just make up the painting. Blackadder chastises himself for being so stupid, prompting George and Baldrick proving just how stupid they are by shouting they're the dumber ones. While still in No Man's Land.
- Michael Scott of The Office (US) generally comes up with incredibly stupid and self-centered ideas and observations, to the point where one of the show's running gags is to have Michael try to explain the Aesop of the episode, only to completely miss the mark. However, there are times when he is genuinely right, such as when he correctly deduces that a new "restructure" of the chain of command is an attempt by David Wallace to not have to interact with Michael so often.
Michael: I don't understand that after fifteen years of service here, I have to get in the car and drive to New York in order to talk to you. That doesn't seem right to me. That doesn't seem fair. And I think that I've earned more than that.Wallace: [a little stunned] Yeah. You're right. Yes.
Michael: I don't think I need to wait out Dunder Mifflin. I think I just have to wait out you.
- Probably his crowning moment in the entire series came later when negotiating with Wallace over the sale of the Michael Scott Paper Company. He first turns down the cash offer (reasonably asserting that they need stable jobs rather than a lump sum) and then correctly plays on Wallace's fears regarding his own position as CFO.
- He also correctly surmised another time that Darryl, the leader of the warehouse employees, was using an incident where Roy attacked Jim as leverage to get a pay raise.
- On Gilligan's Island, the surprised phrase "Gilligan, you've done it again!" is repeated so often, it's almost an aversion, but the other characters are still surprised when he has a good idea.
- Chad from Scream Queens is an utter moron (Dean Munsch herself has no idea how he got into college considering his speech in Episode 5), but he does have a keen insight...:
- He points out that Ms Bean's body being missing doesn't mean she's alive. Someone could've just moved it.
- When he correctly deduces that Boone's death couldn't have possibly been a suicide as the police claim.
- He also anticipates that the fact he has necrophilia will draw the police's suspicion upon him, if he reports to them finding the bodies of the Red Devil's victims.
- In “Seven Minutes in Hell” he’s the only one to remember there are two red devils when everyone is accusing each other, and is the one who finds the secret passageway.
- Pearls Before Swine:
Rat: What does it mean to be happy? Is it something subjective? Or is there an objective component? Is it simply the absence of pain? Or is it something more? How does a dumb guy like you answer a question like that?
Pig: I think happiness is finding a couple extra fries at the bottom of the bag.
Rat: Pig made sense. The apocalypse is upon us.
Pig: Yay! The apocalypse! Yaaaaaay! Wait... wait... what's an apocalypse?
- Done by the Pointy-Haired Boss in Dilbert when describing the other departments as being staffed with professional liars.
- Ace Attorney:
- Detective Dick Gumshoe has his fair share of these, such as when he suggests that the true killer's motive in the murder of Russell Berry could be the fact that they HAD NO motive in the first place. Phoenix immediately shakes this off as Gumshoe being stupid again, and the player probably would on a first run through as well. Turns out he IS right, because Russell Berry was not the intended victim and thus there was no motive for killing him.
- During the thrill-heavy fourth case of the first game, Gumshoe looks at a photograph that has been a vital point for the prosecution's case and is the first to even casually guess that that the shooter in the image isn't Edgeworth but that Edgeworth is the one being shot at. It's dismissed, but he's absolutely right.
- In the second game, local Country Mouse Lotta Hart suggests that the culprit of the case you're working on is in fact the perpetually spacey Ini Miney. She's right, although for a surprisingly logical reason for this trope- she says if Maya is innocent, Ini is the only other suspect without an alibi. In the same case, she is the only one to point out that Franziska Von Karma is committing assault by whipping others.
- Invoked in Dual Destinies, when Phoenix agreees with the rather full of himself space center director, Yuri Cosmos, on his views of misunderstood geniuses.
- Killzone, as seen in the quote above. When the party came across a Helghast base en route to their destination. Templar thinks that they should sneak around it while Rico suggests that they go through the base and kill everything. Hakha agrees with Rico, but only because the base's MLRS are firing at ISA troops and thus must be destroyed.
- Happens in this dialogue in Mana Khemia Alchemists Of Alrevis:
Flay: "You rely too much on your logic. We must defeat the enemy in front of us!"Roxis: "...Sometimes, I envy your simplicity."
- In Mass Effect, the council (or at least the Turian member) seem to believe this whenever the find out Shepard is telling the truth. They even use the saying at one point;
Turian Councillor: I believe your people have a saying - even a broken clock is right twice a day.
- In the third game, there's a conversation between Shepard and Conrad Verner about the switch from overheating weapons in the first game to "thermal clips" in the later ones. Conrad takes the common fan position that being able to shoot indefinitely with the old weapons is still a tactical advantage over the new weapons, which might as well be using limited ammunition again. In this case, they're both right. Thermal clips let you send more fire down range with a skilled reload, and heat sinks can just keep going without the need for supplies. Mass Effect 3 has both types of weapons.
- Another BioWare example: Sir Roderick from Jade Empire does manage to make several good points about the Empire's failings, in the midst of his racist complaining about tea and trousers, in particular regarding the fact no one in the Jade Empire thought to use dragonpowder for personal firearms.
- It is, however, implied in the loading screens that the armies use dragonpowder when going to war, and in the ruins near Tien's Landing, some dragonpowder-fueled rockets are used to blast a hole in a wall.
- One of the song titles in Guilty Gear Isuka is "Drunkard Does Make Wise Remarks".
- In Guilty Gear Xrd, the super-intelligent dragon wizard, Dr. Paradigm, appears in Story Mode without the bubble of water he used to have around him to breathe in Guilty Gear 2: Overture. As it turns out, this is because the super-uninteligent Sin Kiske once asked him why, given his mental acumen, he didn't just make a spell that let him breathe air.
- A character trait of Wheatley in Portal 2. Possibly deconstructed. His ideas are smart just often enough that you'll trust him, letting him function as an Intelligence Dampener.
- Also, he surprises everyone at the end when he booby traps the stalemate button. However, he is specifically designed to come up with bad ideas, and preventing the repair of the reactor or getting in Chell's way are both very bad ideas.
- In the Visual Novel of CLANNAD, Youhei is generally as thick as a brick regarding relationships and people in general. Until midway through Kyou's route, when he uses an Armor-Piercing Question to force Tomoya to come to terms with the fact that the Fujibayashi sister he is dating is not the one he cares for.
- Youhei proves to be useful at least once in Tomoyo's route, too, but not until near the end: Tomoya breaks up with Tomoyo so that Tomoya's delinquency won't hold Tomoyo back from winning a position on the Student Council and using it to save the sakura tree from being cut down. Youhei's the one who gives Tomoya the idea that maybe breaking up with Tomoyo was a bad idea, since they loved each other so much. And indeed, later on Tomoya and Tomoyo get back together.
- During the introduction to the Game Boy Advance Pinky and the Brain Licensed Game Pinky asked why they didn't spend the entire week on their plan to take over the world rather than just a single night.
- In Hatoful Boyfriend's "Bad Boys Love" route, Sakuya (the racist pigeon) learns that he's a mixed-breed instead of a pure fantail. When his frustration over this drives him to yell at Oko San (who is borderline non-sapient), the latter's reply is this:
Oko San: Sakuya, and Yuuya, and Okosan all have their own wonderful names! Names more important than any breed!
- In the Dink Smallwood mod Cast Awakening: Initiation doors disappear if you use them while the right color key is in your possession. This leads to an exchange between two Cast members sent to fetch Dink for execution during the introduction.
Junior Recruit: Father, the door disappeared!
Cast Father: Of course the door disappeared! That is a magic door and you have a magic key!
Junior Recruit: Then how do we lock the cell again?
Cast Father: Don't ask stupid questions!
- In Sonic Colors, after Eggman's plan backfires (again), Eggman questions how his plan failed. Cubot tells Eggman how this was expected and how Sonic always foils his plans. This exchange happens.
Cubot: [Sonic] stops you like it's his job or somethin'. In fact, I can't remember a plan he didn't stop.
Dr. Eggman: What are you talking about? He hasn't foiled all of them.
Cubot: Name one.
Dr. Eggman: [beat]
- Heck, even Orbot proceeds to applaud Cubot for paying attention.
- In The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim the Player Character can respond to an intellectual discussion by a group of learned sages about the rightness or wrongness of stopping Alduin from causing The End of the World as We Know It, which he is destined and supposed to do, by simply stating they like the world and want to save it. The leader of the sages admits that's a fair response.
- In Dangan Ronpa, Yasuhiro Hagakure, who's typically not very bright, makes the observation that it's highly unlikely that one of the victims from Chapter 3 was killed with one of the weapons the students already found, since the killer would've had to take the risk of retrieving the weapon, killing the victim, and putting it back where it was originally found, without anyone noticing.
Byakuya: I'm surprised. It seems there's some semblance of a brain knocking around inside that skull of yours after all.
- When Scout is reading lines of "Ghost D.A." in the Team Fortress 2 comic "Unhappy Returns", Spy tells him to just take the public defender. Scout responds that the last two times they did that, they were assigned Soldier and a lamp. Fortunately, they managed to get a surprisingly competent lawyer during the trial. Too bad Soldier snaps his neck.
- In "Death of a Salesbot", even Gray Mann's robots think that running on piles of money is a questionable idea.
- Chie Satonaka of Persona 4 is the Book Dumb variety: She's not particularly known for performing well in school or having the kind of mind that would be suited to solving a murder mystery, but she'll occasionally spout some random theory about the case that turns out to be exactly right.
- Happens frequently in 8-Bit Theater, since everyone in the main cast hates each other so much.
- In fact, it may even be the Trope Namer.
- Especially evident with team idiot Fighter, who occasionally gets one of these. One of his most brilliant insights is when the group was falling to their deaths and he suggests (after getting interrupted several times with guesses as to what idiotic idea he might be proposing...and agreeing that those are good too) that Thief and Fighter grab onto Black Mage and Red Mage, and have the two cast Feather Fall. Which would have been a great idea... had Red Mage not blown all his spells on distracting Sarda, which likely could have been fixed with his mime ability but Black Mage dumped all his non-apocalyptic spells while he was power tripping on evil.
- Then he blocked the ground.
- In Bob and George, Bass was the only one to realize that the only hope of defeating Bad Guy Of The Year Mynd was to flank him and attack simultaneously from three directions. While putting the plan into action, Protoman, Roll, and Bass all wonder, "when the hell did we start listening to Bass?" (Granted, the attack fails, but not because of any flaw in the plan. Mynd is just that Bad Ass.)
- In Darths & Droids one character says "Jar Jar, you're a genius." They even point out how rarely those words are used together.
- The Order of the Stick
- "Surprisingly, Elan makes a good point. (Which probably just proves that we've stumbled into some bizarre alternate reality.)" Unsurprisingly (because, c'mon, he's Elan), it goes horribly, horribly wrong.
- Much later, he points the flaws on Haley's position.
Haley: (after gulping a jar of beer) Am I drunk enough yet that later, I won't remember getting out-logicked by Elan?
Durkon: Och! Na. Ye'll need at least two more pints fer tha.
- Thog, the illiterate barbarian whose Dump Stat was intelligence, claims he's smarter than the Genius Bruiser Roy in "Don't Get MAD". He says that all of his good abilities help him in his chosen career, while Roy's intelligence doesn't help him as a fighter. Roy ends up beating Thog using those cross-class ranks in Knowledge (Architect and Engineering) he wouldn't have had if he didn't have a good intelligence, but not before taking a substantial beating and having to sneak in a potion to keep going.
- In Freefall, no matter how outslanding the situation/subject might be, Helix has been know to has a point from now and them, like this.
- Sluggy Freelance: Used in "Oceans Unmoving" with the carib Honest Stu.  (No-one takes him seriously because of the way he is most of the time.)
"Wait, Stu is right for once?""The amount he talks? You gotta like those odds."
- During the first Thanksgiving arc, when the cast is discussing what they're thankful for, Sam, who is typically mainly focused on scoring with women, surprisingly eloquently discusses how he is grateful for his freedom. For Thanksgiving of 2001, this was shown again, with a panel of Torg and Zoe expressing approval and agreement.
- However, the most impressive one is given by Torg to Riff regarding Aylee. For years, Riff tried to get rid of Aylee, claiming that she's a threat to humanity, but after a chapter with Torg and Aylee stuck in an alternative dimension, when Torg founds out that Riff still wants to get rid of her, Torg snaps and gave a lengthy scolding to Riff for his actions against Aylee, citing that, in spite to his belief over her being a human-eater, earth is her home now, and Aylee has honestly tried hard to not eat humans. Also, Torg notices that Riff is a hypocrite by accusing her of being the doom of humanity, but he himself has proved in numerous occasions to be a even biggger threat to humanity due to his focus on explosives and mad science as a whole. As the events of Dimension of Rain saga turned out, the last statement proved to be painfully accurate.
- In Off-White, Iki has a premonition that someone was coming close to them. Jera, of all the characters, is the one who notice that he's right.
- In Tales of the Questor, Squidge isn't the brightest bulb in the box, but his suggestion that Quentyn check the exact wording of a covanent clause and the laws pertaining to it is very good advice indeed.
- In Sinfest, faced with Squigley happily stuffing his face, smoking drugs, and watching TV, Slick can't decide whether he has a problem or the answer to life.
- In Dan and Mab's Furry Adventures , Dan is forced to go in a party with a family of demons to keep the pretense that he's dating Lorenda, but Kria Soulstealer (Lorenda's mother) knows that Dan's relationship with Lorenda is a lie, but she still invited Dan anyway to seduce him... and she almost succeeded. Dan, however, realised just in time what he almost have done, and jumped off window. Next day, he decided to enroll in a school for cubi (his species) for a month, suspecting that his behavior is due to his lack of control of cubi nature. According to Abel, Dan is right.
- Donald in this Dark Legacy Comic says he's having fun and echos an earlier statement back at Nyte and Krom when they try to make him stop having fun over screwing up. Nyte and Krom go into a Heroic B.S.O.D..
- In MMBN 7 The World Tournament, Cloud Cuckoolander Anetta is the only one to come up with the idea to track Regurk using the spy program in Dark Scythe's PET. Not even Baryl thought about doing that. lampshaded of course.
- For a moronic man-whore, Joe from Dumbing of Age has surprisingly frequent moments of making sense. Case in point:
Joe: So you're telling me that some chick wanted to casual bang you, and you didn't want to?Danny: I did want to! I'm not dead! I just didn't want to take advantage of her!Joe: Was she underage?Danny: No.Joe: Was she drunk?Danny: No.Joe: Was she crying?Danny: No.Joe: See, I don't get why I'm the one who don't respect women when you're the dude who thinks he knows better than the girl about whether she wants to have sex.
- Jared, one of the interns working in Commander Badass' temp agency in Manly Guys Doing Manly Things is a Man Child and a failure of a Pokémon trainer (he levelled up his Magikarp to a Gyarados by using it as a club to beat the shit out of opponents. He's also, compared to the rest of the Pokémon league, the Only Sane Man.
- Commander Badass admits that a Room Filled with Bubbles does sound pretty fun.
- Jared (to Lysandre when he compliments Jared on making "groundbreaking discoveries" about Pokemon affection and companionship): "Wait, you mean you just figured out that animals like it when you pet them and give them treats? Who gave you your science license?"
- Jared may not be the best pokemon trainer, but when he meets Lysandre, Mr. Fish is MUCH larger than Lysandre's Gyarados, to the point Mr. Fish could swallow Lysandre's Gyarados WHOLE. Because Jared feeds him a somewhat more balanced diet (pretty much everything Jared deems to be food). Lysandre feeds his Pokepuffs, which are basically desserts.note
- Nebula: Earth comments that Mars' concerns about Sun sound a lot like something Jupiter would say; Mars responds by admitting that while Jupiter is really, really dumb, he can still occasionally end up being right. Even if it's mostly by accident.
- In Chapter 14 of Red vs. Blue Reconstruction, Caboose is the one that manages to come up with a plan that would get them into Command without anyone getting suspicious of them: by putting the unrecognizable ones inside the opaque tank. Caboose actually gets a number of these throughout the series.
- Tucker: "I'm confused. That actually sounded like a good idea."Church: "I know."Tucker: "But... Caboose said it."Church: "I know."
- Caboose once said that there was probably wet plains in between the freezing plains and the burning plains, which he is (sort of) right because there's a swamp in between the two plains.
- The Red team's resident Ditz, Donut, also has his share, including his accurate assessment of every unlikely plot twist. The others derided this as too stupid.
- Tom from Echo Chamber tries to invoke this trope on himself in the episode Dumbass Has A Point, but, as Dana points out, the trope didn't fit.
Dana: To be a dumbass with a point, you have to have a point, dumbass.
- The real dumbass with a point is Zack. He uses his knowledge of After Effects to help create an intro to the vlog that was way better than anything Tom could have come up with on his own.
- During Spoony's review of Highlander II: The Quickening, he gets angry when General Katana hits one of his Mooks simply for pointing out why his evil plan is flawed...
General Katana: You leave for the Planet earth immediately. Find Macleod and kill him.Insano brother #1: But I thought you said MacLeod was mortal, and can never return.General Katana: [slapping the mook] Find him for me. Kill him.Spoony: Wait, why'd you hit him? Dumbass there just pointed out one of the biggest plotholes of the whole fucking movie! Yeah, this guy figured out one of the potholes! And Katana doesn't even have an answer for the guy!
- Arby 'n' the Chief features this line in Season 6 from Master Chief, after Arbiter is complaining about how much his life sucks. Also counts as a Double Entree such Chief is an enormous asshole to Arbiter in the series as well.
Master Chief: if ur s0 smrt and thers no point in anythign wats teh point of crying abot it?
- Dragon Ball Abridged: Instead of punching Gohan like he does in the show, this is how Goku convinces his son to not go attacking Cell in a blind rage:
Gohan: Mr. Piccolo would let me go!
Goku: No, he wouldn't! And he is smarter than me!
Gohan: I...! Wow... that's actually a good point.
- RWBY: Neptune begins in a battle by running to the other team's main front. Although it was mainly to escape the body of water he was afraid of, but he gives an acceptable excuse
Sage: (calling out to the fleeing teammate) Neptune, what are you doing!?Neptune: (now standing on a ledge near the top of the formation, yelling down to his friends) Uh, you know, just gaining some higher ground!Sun: (exasperatedly) On the enemy's side!?Neptune: They would never expect it!Dew: (turning to her allies) He's not wrong.
- Boomstick from Death Battle is the host who would just make up as many jokes about the competitors as possible while leaving Wiz to tell the views everything they need to know about the fighters... most of the time. He shows a surprising amount of knowledge about dinosaurs, in particular velociraptors and has a PHD, albeit one related to fried poultry. He's also smart enough to identify Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture by ear. This is often to the pleasant surprise of Wiz.
- The Simpsons
Lisa: I can't believe that extra-thick layer of pollution that I've actually picketed against burned up the comet.Bart: But what's really amazing, is that this is exactly what Dad said would happen.Lisa: Yeah, Dad was right.Homer: I know, kids. I'm scared too!
- In the episode "Bart's Comet":
- In the episode in which the Simpsons go to Africa when it's revealed that Doctor Bushwell is using the monkeys to run a diamond mine this exchange occurs:
Bart: I think we should look at her research before we condemn her completely.(everyone stares at Bart, shocked)Bart: I haven't said anything for a while.
- In part 2 of "Who Shot Mr. Burns", after Smithers was cleared of shooting Burns (because he shot Jasper instead), the normally completely incompetent police chief has this to say:
Chief Wiggum: Wait a minute! If a second old geezer got shot, how come nobody reported it?note
- Wiggum gets another one shortly after. When Lisa points out that Burns' recent actions provide motives for several people, namely his oil-drilling endangered both the school and Moe's tavern. After she fingers Skinner, Willie, Moe and Barney, Wiggum points out that Tito Puente would also be a suspect by her logic, as he was supposed to be hired but was fired because of Burns' drilling. Lisa sheepishly concedes to the point. Of course, Wiggum's competence is immediately offset by the fact that Tito Puente stops being a suspect because he plays the police a catchy musical number. The musical number was Tito Puente's revenge against Burns. One of its lyrics was about how bullet wounds are nothing compared to the humiliation the taunting song gives.
- In "Homer the Vigilante", the entire town is all set to forgive the elderly catburglar who stole from the entire town after he claims he just wanted people to respect the elderly. Wiggum arrests him anyway because the guy had just confessed to burglary. Wiggum's competence is again offset when he and the rest of the town are tricked by the catburglar into chasing after his nonexistent stash.
- In "Covercraft", Lisa says that Homer is jealous of Apu's musical talents. Homer corrects her, saying that he's envious, and explains the difference ("Jealousy is when you worry someone will take what you have. Envy is wanting what someone else has."); Lisa pulls out a dictionary and confirms that he's right.
- In yet another episode, Mayor Quimby is being electrocuted on live TV by an electric chair that everyone except for Bart and Ralph Wiggum believe is turned off. Bart says he needs to think of a way to save Mayor Quimby, and Ralph Wiggum has the brilliant insight that... Lisa's good at thinking. (Cue Lisa saving the day, and everyone cheering Ralph for his good sense.)
- In one episode of The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy, Billy suggests that Nergal Jr turn himself into a pair of pants so that Billy can wear them and win a race:
Mandy: Billy, that has to be the stupidest idea... (stops short) Come to think of it, Billy, that's probably the smartest idea you've ever had.Billy: I know. That's why I wanna do it.
- Raven did this to Beast Boy in Teen Titans at least once. Notably, Beast Boy calls out Robin for acting like Slade in his search for him, as well as showing insight into Terra's character when the Titans were ready to consider her just another villain. In the second to last episode, he also quickly took charge of the remaining heroes, citing that he's had the most experience fighting them.
- Happens a few times in Kim Possible, usually in relation to Ron Stoppable.
- Ed from Ed, Edd 'n' Eddy has a few moments like this. In "O-Ed Eleven", he manages to puzzle out a map belonging to Eddy's mysterious older brother. Of course, he's still Ed, so he tries to explain it thusly:
Edd: Ed, how on earth did you do that?Ed: Because I am a brother, and Eddy's brother is a brother, and Eddy is a brother to Eddy's brother as a brother I am.
- Here's one from "Eds-aggerate", the episode with the "mucky boys":
Edd: Eddy, wouldn't it be easier to just—Ed: Make funny noises?Eddy: Ed! You found a brain!
- In one episode, Eddy has
writer'sscammer's block. Ed suggests simply buying an idea.
- Here's one from "Eds-aggerate", the episode with the "mucky boys":
- In one episode of The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh, Pooh narrates the "Three Little Pigs" with Rabbit as the Big Bad Bunny, but the story keeps on getting derailed by Pooh's thoughts always straying toward honey. When a scene more resembling "Little Red Riding Hood" occurs, Tigger comments, "Hey, for a Big Bad Bunny, he's sure not being very bad." Rabbit (the Big Bad Bunny) replies, "For once, you're right, Tigger. We have lost track of the story, haven't we?"
- In "A Knight to Remember", Pooh and company want to play a game of chess, but some pieces are missing, and it seems they won't be able to play. Then this exchange happens.
Rabbit: How can we play with missing pieces?
Pooh: By playing the missing pieces!
Tigger: Are my ears on too tight, or is Fluff-Boy making sense?
- Pooh says this about himself in "The Good, the Bad, and the Tigger". When Tigger says Pooh came up with a "terrifical idea", Pooh's response is, "I came up with a terrifical idea? Oh my, this must be a fantasy!"
- In "A Knight to Remember", Pooh and company want to play a game of chess, but some pieces are missing, and it seems they won't be able to play. Then this exchange happens.
- In The Venture Bros., when a spike-laden deathtrap comes closing in on them, Hank suggests they contact Dr. Orpheus. Dr. Venture vehemently objects half because Hank is a dumbass and half because he really doesn't like Dr. Orpheus. Brock outright says "I know it sounds crazy, but Hank has the only idea." Dr. Venture only relents when Brock starts lining them up for the least painful death.
- In Code Lyoko, Odd is usually regarded as not being very bright. However, in one episode in the last season, where a mission to destroy one of XANA's Replikas took him and Yumi's virtual forms to the International Space Station, he actually had two good ideas in the same episode. First, when Jeremie warned them that they had to make the computer's destruction look like an accident (because the Station was too well-known and suspected sabotage would be a headache they did not need) Odd suggested breaking a pipe to cause water damage. His second good idea came when XANA attacked them using flying, spiked orbs that he was using the Station's equipment to build; he got rid of them by opening a hatch door, causing the orbs to be blown out of the station.
- Happens every so often in the 2003 Ninja Turtles cartoon, and almost always in reference to Michelangelo. Usually it's Raphael who gets to admit it.
- Happens at least once in The Fairly OddParents:
Timmy: You were right, Cosmo! (expression of sudden shock) You were right?Timmy: Cosmo, that's a great idea! Gee, I never thought I'd say those 5 words in a row before.
Wanda: (writing in diary) "Wednesday March 22nd: Cosmo had an idea!"
- In "Power Mad!", Timmy gets trapped in his (wish enhanced) videogame thanks to his friends Chester and A.J. trying it out, but Vicky gets (unknowingly) close to trapping him there by causing a power outage in the house. Cosmo proceeds to unplug the TV (and the 12 other appliances Vicky is using at the moment) and tells Wanda "I have an idea". Cosmo and Wanda then act out shows as Vicky channel surfs.
Wanda: (writing in diary) "This has been a magnificent day for Cosmo!"
- Later in the same episode, Cosmo keeps the TV running by, well, running on a hamster wheel.
Cosmo: How are you going to learn anything if you never pay attention?
- In "Kung Timmy", while Timmy's Dad is usually pretty much an oblivious fool and somehow at the same time a borderline Abusive Dad he WAS right stating he couldn't beat up Francis for Timmy since he's only a 12 year old child (albeit a really scary looking 12 year old but a kid nonetheless).
- In "School of Crock", Cosmo again makes a good point when he finds out that Timmy's been sleeping in class:
- Done a few times with Pinky in Pinky and the Brain. Most of the time when Pinky says something stupid it earns him a hit on the head from Brain. But the few times he actually made a good point, Brain is getting ready to hit him out of habit when he stops and thinks and then admits he has a point. One such example comes from the Don Quixote episode, where Pinky asks "Why would Sophia Loren do a musical?", and Brain calls it "a worthy conundrum".
- In the Futurama episode "Parasites Lost", Zoidberg of all characters gets one of these moments when he suggests escaping the nasal capillary into the sinus. Turns out, he was just remembering an old commercial he had seen.
Hermes: Strange. Usually you don't know anything about human anatomy.
Zoidberg: I learned it in a decongestant commercial! Soothing action, action, action, action!
- This is eventually resolved in a much later season. It turns out that Zoidberg is an absolutely brilliant biologist and doctor...when it comes to aliens. It's only his knowledge of humans that's absolutely horrid. But he considers Professor Farnsworth his closest friend, so he works for him even though he could make millions elsewhere.
- In the Donkey Kong Country episode "Buried Treasure", K. Rool decides that the treasure the Kongs are looking for is an Artifact of Doom "capable of wiping out the island":
K. Rool: Do you know what this means!?Krusha: The apes will have complete control over Kongo Bongo, and probably turn us into matching luggage.K. Rool: ...He does have his moments...
- Spongebob Squarepants
- Patrick seems to have quite a few of these moments throughout the series. One such instance has him beating out Sandy in coming up with a plan. The reaction to this was fairly obvious.
- In earlier episodes, Patrick tended to be the one to suggest that Squidward didn't like him and Spongebob. Spongebob, naturally found such a notion unthinkable.
- One episode features Spongebob and Patrick getting paint on Mr. Krabs' first dollar, his most prized possession. They spend the rest of the episode trying to fix it before Mr. Krabs comes home, only for Patrick to point out how ridiculous the whole situation is.
"I mean, it's not like it looks any different than a regular dollar! Why hang it? You could just hang any dollar bill up on the wall and no one would know the difference! You might as well just reach into my wallet, pull out a dollar, and put it on the wall!"
- On an episode of Beavis and Butt-Head, Mr. Van Driessen asks the class "Where do we get our food?" Butt-Head (who usually lives up to his name) answers "Uh... the store?" This was indeed the point he was trying to make. Even Butt-Head was shocked to find out he got an answer right.
- On an episode of Frisky Dingo Ronnie, the dimwitted Russian rapist member of the Xtacles, interrupts Xander Crews' long lost brother Nearl's revenge speech by shooting him in the head. Cue this exchange:
Random Xtacle: What the hell, Ronnie?Ronnie: What? Is complicated enough without all this Evil Twin bullshit having.Xtacle: That's... actually a good point. Good for you!
- In one episode, the title character hides in a bathroom stall having believed she has sold out her principles by wearing contact lenses instead of her 'manstopper glasses'. Her best friend Jane, as well as acquaintance Jodie couldn't get her out. So imagine their shock when ditzy cheerleader Brittany manages to get through to her…
Brittany: By the way, Daria, I just want you to know I think it's really brave of you to get those contact lenses and admit that you care about the way you look, even just a little. Because knowing that a brain can be worried about her looks makes me feel, um, I don't know, not so shallow or something. Like we're not that different, just human, or whatever.(after a moment, Daria emerges from the stall)Daria: Well, thank you, Brittany. You're right. We are just human or whatever.
- "The Daria Hunter" also showed Brittany to be a pretty good military tactician.
- In one episode, the title character hides in a bathroom stall having believed she has sold out her principles by wearing contact lenses instead of her 'manstopper glasses'. Her best friend Jane, as well as acquaintance Jodie couldn't get her out. So imagine their shock when ditzy cheerleader Brittany manages to get through to her…
- In Transformers Animated, Prowl assumes Sentinel is getting help from Lockdown in capturing Megatron's lieutenants, and uses the fact that they are stripped of their equipment as evidence when confronting him. Sentinel shows him Lugnut's mods and points out he'd have to be really stupid not to disarm dangerous prisoners. Prowl is proven to be correct later on, and Lugnut's mods were used to try and "throw him off the scent" — but Sentinel has a point. Incidentally, Starscream had escaped Sentinel's custody once before precisely because he didn't disarm him, so Prowl's assertion is based on past experience.
- On Jimmy Two-Shoes, Beezy comes up with a plan to catch Lucius' Toothy Bird. Heloise begrudgenly admits it's a good plan.
- In the Aqua Teen Hunger Force episode "Total Re-Carl", Carl's body gets destroyed by Frylock's experimental high-tech toilet, and Frylock tries to make him a new body. One of the attempts is a heavily-armed cybernetic suit, and Master Shake, known for being a stupid Jerk Ass, points out that this might not be a good idea:
Frylock: I give you the ultimate in military hardware! Complete with laser cannon, indestructible titanium exoskeleton, and motion activated plasma pulse rifles.Master Shake: And you're gonna plug him in?Frylock: ...You're right. Damn, what the hell was I thinking?
- In Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, the one person who pointed out how illogical the show's premise is turned out to be crazy.
- Carl and Sheen from The Adventures of Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius occasionally have their moments.
Jimmy: Carl, that's brilliant!
- Regular Show: In the episode "Stick Hockey", Rigby points out that Benson does have a responsibility to trust his workers, instead of assuming they'll slack off. Then again, it's the one of the few instances where Mordecai and Rigby actually keep up their end of the bargain.
Rigby: (rolls eyes after Mordecai moans about Margaret for the umpteenth time) "Whatever. You could just ask her out you know."Mordecai: "I can't just do that! You don't get it. It's too complicated."Rigby: "No it's not. Just ask her.
- Rigby once did this:
- Close to the end of the alien suit arc of The Spectacular Spider-Man, Jerk Jock Flash calls Peter out on rejecting his friends when they were trying to support him, leading to him realizing that the suit is changing him along with this hilarious line.
Spider-Man: Okay, if Flash Thompson's making sense, something must be seriously wrong.
- Invader Zim:
Gir: But if the 'sploding goes FAST, won't it be all BAD?
- The scatterbrained and totally crazy robot Gir is prone to occasional observations of this nature. For example, in "Walk For Your Lives!" Zim's plan to deal with an explosion that's trapped in a field that slows down time (resulting in what appears to be a slowly-expanding energy ball) is to return its speed to normal.
- Dib's insistence on fighting to prevent Zim from conquering the world is also this; though it's not brought up in-universe, the fact of the matter is that Zim may be too crazy and stupid to conquer Earth on purpose, but he's plenty crazy-stupid to destroy it by accident while trying. So, yes, Dib really is saving the Earth by his constant foilings of Zim's plots. Just not how either of them actually thinks it's happening.
- In Chaotic Majar, a creature who is the epitome of Dumb Muscle points out to his partner Borth, that he is smart but small and he himself is strong but dumb and suggests they stop their bickering and work together.
- During season 2 of Archer, the title character finds out that he has breast cancer and the drugs he takes for it are fake. He then goes on a rampage to find the source of the fake drugs, which turns out to be The Irish Mob. When straight woman Lana asks if the whole affair is really worth it, Archer points out that although it is a personal mission for him, the gangsters are still selling fake cancer medicine, which is pretty heinous.
Lana: Still though, you really want to take on the Irish mob?Archer: No, I don't, but they've the ones switching out lifesaving cancer drugs with candy and Zima.
- In the My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic episode "Inspiration Manifestation", a spell book which drives those who use it insane with power was left unguarded and defended only by a single lock, rather than, say, being moved to the secure archives in Canterlot, or at least having a barrier that needed more than some bolt cutters to get through. By then, one would expect the dangerous artifacts to have been moved to a secure location. Spike was correct in saying that the book was basically unguarded.
- In The Legend of Korra episode "Operation Beifong", the usually flimsy and vain Wu suggests that the people in Republic City can evacuate so Kuvira can't harm them. Korra, Mako, and everyone else is surprised and take his advice. Frustratingly for Mako, Wu admits he only suggested it to impress Korra.
- He also suggested sending an army of trained badger moles to attack Kuvira, which gets him nothing but disdained looks. Later, badgermoles prove to be so effective that one wonders what they could have done if they actually had an army of trained badgermoles available, instead of the two random ones he grabbed from the zoo.
- The Hair Bear Bunch episode "Rare Bear Bungle" dealt with the bears sending a new inmate to their cave, Rare Bear, out into town as they think he's a mole planted by zookeeper Peevly. But when they learn Rare Bear is worth $50,000, they escape to retrieve him but are followed by Peevly and Botch. The bears are subsequently caught and Peevly plans to send them back to the forest when Rare Bear turns up with the zoo superintendent. Peevly is about to tell the superintendent why he's about to send the Hair Bear Bunch to the forest when Botch (the dum-dum) tells him not to as the super would find out Rare Bear escaped as well.
- In the 2006 revival of Biker Mice from Mars, the episode "Driver's Ed" has Vinnie, Throttle, and Modo forced to drive a minivan after their motorcycles are taken away and they are shown to have no experience in driving anything besides their bikes. After they capture the Catatonian general Hannibal T. Hairball, the Biker Mice are rather surprised when the villain so incompetent that his older brother Cataclysm does all the work reveals knowledge on what the "clutch" is.
- In Total Drama Presents: The Ridonculous Race after listening to Kelly's ramblings about Taylor's behavior for an entire trip, which is still not finished. Dwayne gave his viewpoint as a fellow parent and someone who is outside her social circle that Taylor was born spoiled.