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Krid: I'm going to go through and cull natter and chaff, and I'll post my decision and reasoning for each item. If you wish to contest it, do so just under the entry in question.
- Saban Moon: If the person presenting it says "Please have an open mind", it's because they're expecting a backlash. Also, I have to agree that it doesn't need the Sailor Moon tie-in to be terrible on it's own. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B4_VCeHfjo
- Samurai X: Although it has plenty of errors and screw-ups, I can't verify the claim about Nobuhiro Watsuki's beliefs. The example is at the bottom of this page if you can find proof.
- Negima: Yes, they basically went-off perpendicular to the plot of the manga. This example does a good job showing how a work can still be GOOD without being at all accurate to the source material.
- Si N: I can confirm that John Blade has a strong aversion to murder, what with him being a super-cop and all that.
- Lensman: Horribly screwing up the focus of a series (The lenses) is evidence enough. The breeding project, while important, is not vital enough to qualify on it's own.
- Result: Kept, with edits.
- Batman: Ever since the middle of the golden ages Batman has refused to use firearms, but he DOES have a long history of intentionally letting people die. Heck, he explicitly offered to let Gordon execute the Joker over what the Joker had done to his daughter. However, Batman And Robin was a poorly written travesty. How the hell did Batman manage to adopt an +18-year-old, anyway?
- Starship Troopers: The story provided is roughly accurate.
- Uwe Boll: This man is reviled among gamers for his ability to corrupt everything he touches. Rumor has it that Gabe Newell threatened to shoot Uwe Boll if he so much as contemplated Half Life movie. Some game developers But don't take MY word for it, just ask any critic who has ever watched his films. http://www.rottentomatoes.com/celebrity/uwe_boll/
- Result: Kept, but edited.
- The Dark Is Rising: I can't find much to support either side of this. If I could find plot synopsies then it would be different, but I can't keep it as it is. The example's at the bottom of this page.
- His Dark Materials: Support provided in the example.
- Field Of Dreams: At best this is a minor detail, and the example itself says it doesn't count.
- The Scarlet Letter: She admitted that she didn't care, and the result was a mangled version of the book.
- Jumper: The author was working alongside the production crew, and approved of the final work. I'm going to give the author the benefit of a doubt and assume they shared a few beliefs with Douglas Adams on changing media and revisions.
- Incredible Hulk: While the movie was passable, it wasn't very kind to the source material. The fact that they decided to try again almost immediately kinda suggests that they knew they screwed up.
- Result: Kept, with a rewrite.
- Lawnmower Man: The name DOES appear to be the only real link between the movie and the book.
- Super Mario Bros: I actually enjoyed this movie quite a bit, but it's ties to the series are basically just a series of shout-outs.
- Bewitched: "Um, also, the whole point of the Bewitched film is that it doesn't take place in the Bewitched TV universe. Because in the movie Bewitched is a FICTIONAL TV SHOW. The whole plot is that Nicole Kidman is a "real" witch trying out for the "fictional" part of the "fictional" witch Samantha in Will Ferrell's TV remake."
- Eragon: It diverged enough to make kids cry. I actually saw a news segment about how kids had responded so negatively to the movie, and while scant few tears were actually shed the kids were CERTAINLY not pleased. http://www.aintitcool.com/node/30956
- Godzilla: Godzilla has always had two major themes. 1: "History shows again and again how nature points out the folly of man", 2: Camp. Lots and lots of camp. If you did a deadpan version of MS T3k or Rocky Horror Picture Show, it would be terrible. In the US movie they glossed over Godzilla's origins and played it deadpan. Because of this it was just another generic Attack Of The Fifty Foot Whatever movie, and didn't feel at all like a Godzilla movie.
- Catwoman: The anecdote is accurate as near as I can tell, and the fact that it's a credible explanation should be proof enough anyway.
- Discworld: Yea, that's about how things went down. Although it never made it past talks, it's pretty clear what would have happened if it had continued.
- Porn Titles: Porn isn't expected to be good, and there's a reason why nobody sues them over IP violations.
- The Spirit: I'm going to hold off on judgement on this one since I lack the knowledge to make a determination. However, since the changes listed appear to be major I've culled the natter and left it in a cleaner form.
- Result: Tentatively kept.
- A Sound Of Thunder: I saw that movie. It was terrible, made no sense, and had terminally large holes in both it's plot and logic.
- The Wicker Man: The location, relationship, and personality changes aside, you can't remake a musical without songs.
- Ella Enchanted: I don't have the in-depth knowledge needed to re-write this one, but Disney is notorious for ruining books.
Sordid: Maybe I'm being dense here, but could somebody please explain to me why exactly there are no examples on the page and all the ones that used to be there are stuck in here?
fleb: Someone put it on the cutlist, only they didn't cutlist this ptitle page, they cutlist the redirect They Just Didnt Care. So the big conversation happened on They Just Didnt Care Discussion, instead of here, about how the examples had become nothing but a pointless bitchfest requiring little to no justification for adding an example. It's like The Untwist: It's a useful definition, but mere mortals just can't be trusted to manage an example list sensibly.
- Committee of Pawns: A backroom yet binding conversation sounds like something that other WIKI would do, isn’t this TV Tropes?
Sordid: I see, it is as I suspected. Too bad, I had a wonderful Need for Speed example all thought up. But yeah, this backroom business is unbecoming. Perhaps a compromise, in the form of a separate example page, so as not to clutter up the article, and with a proper disclaimer at the top?
Krid: Put that example up. I refuse to abide by background dealings and the arbitrary demands of self-important blowhards. The probllem is not with the article OR the examples, but with the fact that nobody has bothered to act as editor. It seems that backroom comitties much preffer to nuke and pave instead of puting forth some actual effort.
: I've revised the first few sections already. Take a look at those and tell me if you think it's 'unsalvagable'. ^^
Charred Knight: Removed mention of the Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance series since they where a critical success, and considering that they where making a third one when Black Isle Studio closed a financial success as well. Also their seems to be some confusion about who made Dark Alliance, as Interplay itself is blamed when Black Isle Studio itself made the second one, and produced the first one. The complaints about DA are either minor, or based solely on They Changed it now it sucks since DA isn't an RPG, like the original Baldur's Gate. Its the eqivalent of someone bitching about Mario Kart since its a racing game and not a platformer.
Krid: Removed the following:
- About the religious fanatics blowing planets up? Microsoft/FASA Studios didn't invent that; it's Classic Battle Tech canon.
Krid: Reason? Well... it's just not true. The Wobbies may be fanatical, but (circa 2002, when the game was released) they abided by the terms of the Ares Convention. Aside from that, not even the SLDF had the technological capability to destroy a planet. As far back as I can remember, BT has based itself on actual science excepting situations where deviations are absolutely required for the sake of the setting (Mostly just jump drives and FTL communications).
The Defenestrator: And... Mechs.
Korval: I removed the negative, in-text reference to the Jihad. While Classic Battle Tech ca. 2002 had not yet entered the Jihad era, the Jihad had been planned by FASA for years before FASA closed (they laid out innumerable hints of it), and Mechwarrior: Dark Age had already started exploiting the post-Jihad era. The latter made the Jihad absolute firm Battle Tech canon (history of Dark Age, future of CBT) when Mech Assault was released. Unless there are specific instances of Mech Assault actually doing something with the Jihad that Battle Tech canon actively says didn't happen (the Wo B canonically have ruined several planets, making them unfit for human life, but they have not actively obliterated any planets themselves), the comment simply isn't true.
Maybe I'm being dense, but what's wrong with the image on the Stargate: Infinity cover? It shows the gate having eight chevrons, as it should. The image is tremendously, perhaps excessively, simplified, but I fail to see anything terribly inaccurate about it.
Krid: The first thing I noticed was that it was acting like an intragalactic window instead of the water-ish-looking event horizon we all know and love.
furbearingbrick: I agree, that example was a bit narrow. Replaced by an example that's more obvious (the god-forsaken Star Trek comics.)
Some Guy: That picture always bugged me, but then again, Jonas Quinn has always bugged me, too, so I got kind of used to irrational Stargate references on the site. Kudos on the new image. That's Super Dickery quality nonsense you got there.
Man Without A Body: I removed the Beowulf example, because, although admittedly there was some Adaptation Decay, it's pretty clear that they really did care.
Removed the example about the fourth season of GX from the list; this is about bad adoptions, not bad seasons.
I question the validity the Dragonball: Evolution entry as it seems to be more of a case of They Changed It Now It Sucks and does not list any discrete examples. It might be prudent to wait until the film is released. I would suggest the original author of the entry justify it, or I will remove it.
KJMackley: I agree. Even though there is more justification to the entry, the simple fact is that the movie isn't out yet. I would laugh so hard if the movie comes out and is actually enjoyable, capturing the goofy tone on the franchise. And the Kame Kame Ha was a audio illusion, a "whoosh" sound was placed on the "Hame" making it sound different.
//Much Later— I took it out. I don't want to seem like an apologist for the movie (I don't think it looks perfect either) but the simple fact is the movie is not out yet. It says in this trope that you need to read and understand They Changed It Now It Sucks before adding an example. All anyone has right now is a couple of trailers and a knee-jerk reaction. If the movie comes out and nobody likes it, then I doubt anyone would have a problem with it being listed.
Removed the entry under the "Kindred: The Embraced" example. Seemed to be trollish, what with the entry using the "get out of your parents' basement" argument.
Former examples:
- The Trope Namer is a repeated phrase during the last host segment of MST 3 K Episode 418 - Attack Of The The Eye Creatures (sic), where Joel and the Bots give a point-by-point presentation to prove that the makers of the movie had little concern for the quality of the film.
- The cameramen forgot to adjust the camera to properly shoot day for night:
Tom Servo: Yes, the night the light-intolerant Eye Creatures spearheaded their bone-chilling assault on Earth was actually quite a lovely day. In fact, you couldn't have picked a nicer day to film a night sequence! Just after Midnight, or High Noon? You decide. You see, they just didn't care!
- The editor missed the "Paris in the the Spring" error in the title card while adding the overlay for the new Market Based Title.
- Everybody except the audience failed to notice the giant zippers running up the back of the costumes for the People In Rubber Suits.
- They also apparently ran out of monster suits and monster boots for all the People In Rubber Suits they had hired. Rather than have a smaller number of monsters or using tricky camera shots to create the illusion of more monsters, they had the excess actors stomping around in their monster masks, black wool sweaters and sneakers.
Anime and Manga
- Although killed before it got out of the planning stages, the proposed Toon Makers Inc. remake of Sailor Moon ("Saban Moon") is known infamously across the fandom for such features as Power Rangers-style live action sequences in the high school, space sailboards, and a wheelchair-bound sailor senshi included just for the sake of having a Token Minority.
- An interesting example is Samurai X: Reflections, known in Japan as Rurouni Kenshin: Seisohen. The problem is not that it's spectacularly bad (though the character designs are pretty dire), it's that it goes against creator Nobuhiro Watsuki's firmly-held idea that Shonen series should have happy endings. Instead, Reflections has a Downer Ending full of Wangst.
- The Mahou Sensei Negima manga's main plot is that Negi is looking for his missing father, and the adventures that take place with his thirty-one cute students. The anime series were Merchandise Driven and instead concentrated on his students, half of which are best known by the Cast Herd they run in. As for Negi's father, he gets sucked into a black hole thing in the first series. The Kyoto arc which was three volumes and introduced two really important characters, and third minor character was completely butchered removing Kotarou completely. The actual battles are reduced to two episodes.
- SiN: The Movie. Based off the 1998 FPS of the same name, and funded completely by ADV Studios, this anime is an interesting, if cliched take on the original source material. Its most egregious error is killing off one of the lead characters in the opening minutes of the film, and having the main character (John Blade) murder his friend. In addition, the expansion pack for the original game ("Wages Of Sin") also falls under this.
- The anime movie incarnation of Lensman begins with the main character looting his lens off an anonymous dying Lensman rather than getting it through the proper channels. This wouldn't be so bad if not for the fact that the entire point of the lenses existence is that they serve as an absolutely fool-proof form of ID, that can't be imitated, transfered in any way, and can only be obtained by being judged worthy by some infallible omniscient seers.
- It also turns Kimball Kinnison from the penultimate of a two-million-year-long selective breeding project by said infallible omniscient seers into a kid who got lucky. Which obviates the entire metaplot of the series.
- In short, Luke Skywalker gets Hal Jordan's origin.
- And let's not mention the fact that touching another person's Lens when that person was not wearing it would KILL YOU!
Film
Live Action TV
- The Sci-Fi Channel adaptation of the Earthsea series was widely panned for making the protagonist Caucasian, turning the novels' Wizarding School into a Harry Potter ripoff, and making the protagonist's best friend into a Magical Negro. Not to mention that the priestesses who worship the nameless were changed to priestesses who protected the seal that kept the nameless out. And turned the protagonist's mystical name into his public name, and decided that only wizards got mystical True Names at all... Ursula K. LeGuin went so far as to write this essay decrying the adaptation.
- Ursula K. LeGuin had a somewhat more charitable reaction to the equally unrelated anime adaptation of the Earthsea series, informing the director (the son of legendary Hayao Miyazaki) that it was a good film, but did not in any way represent her books.
- Kindred: The Embraced.
Based on Inspired by A corruption of Vampire: The Masquerade which has so many things wrong with White Wolf's RPG that it's been nicknamed "Kindred: The Embarrassed" by fans. Listing everything they got wrong would take up too much space here... so we'll let Wikipedia do it.
- Many TV networks will cut out scenes from movies for time and content, but some cuts just boggle the mind:
- TBS is particularly bad at this, cutting whole scenes from a movie to save for time. Never mind if they are actually crucial to understanding the plot or not. In Demolition Man, for example, a fight scene near the climax was cut where Huxley, a future cop who has never been in a real fight before, ends up shooting someone. On its own, this isn't that big of a plotpoint, but TBS kept in the following scene, which includes Huxley going at length to rationalize her actions; actions that the viewer didn't see.
- Similarly, when Mystery Men was shown on the station, they cut, among other things, all the scenes between The Shoveler's big speech and the parodied Power Walk, which included three very plot relevant scenes. If this editor remembers correctly, they also cut a good chunk out of the ride over, too.
- One St. Patrick's day, one network (I believe it was Spike), showed The Boondock Saints. Not bad - St. Patrick's Day, set in Boston, Irish protagonists. But they removed the scene where the brothers are "baptized" while in their holding cell and decide to become vigilantes for God.
- This troper once saw a broadcast of Willy Wonka And the Chocolate Factory on... some station that cut various transition scenes, including, notably, the boat ride (sure, it may have been Nightmare Fuel, but c'mon, how do you do that?). This may not have been so bad, but it ended up making no sense how they got to a giant metal door in a concrete pipe-type place from a garden made entirely out of candy. Basically, if you hadn't seen the original, uncut version, you would get lost.
- Brazilian network Globo is also prone to removing parts of films to make their schedule work (i.e. not only violence and sex). In a recent broadcast of Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, most of the scene where Indy meets his father, Indy saying Marcus Brody will blend in the crowd - followed by him lost, and all between Brody's capture and both Joneses tied and starting a fire were taken off.
- Some years ago, a Japanese television station wanted to show The Sound of Music, but needed to cut some parts of it for time. What did they cut? THE SONGS!
- This troper has seen a UK network broadcast Private Benjamin, in which the titular character's newly-wed husband dies accidentally during the consummation of their marriage. Whether it was time constraints or being unable to show that before the watershed (the 'passing a joint around' scene was also omitted), they cut straight from light petting to his funeral, with no explanation whatsoever.
- Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
- Syndicated showings of {{M*A*S*H}} are bad about this as well. Whole scenes will be cut for time that were either important to the plot or were referenced explicitly in uncut dialogue later in the episode. For instance, this troper remembers seeing the episode where Hawkeye bet BJ that he could go through a blitzkrieg of BJ's pranks and not get "gotten". He remembers being baffled continuously when BJ brings up "the kid with the cigar", because THE #$%@S CUT THAT OUT OF THE EPISODE FOR TIME IN SYNDICATION...
- While time has diluted the general hatred in the fandom towards the Doctor Who Made For TV Movie, there is little denying it is replete with this trope. Even aside from the Doctor being a Half Human Hybrid and kissing Grace for no discernible reason, there’s the Daleks allowing the Doctor on Skaro despite him being their eternal enemy, the TARDIS’s chameleon circuit renamed a "cloaking device", resurrecting Grace and Chang by going back in time (the single "rule of time" the series didn't ignore arbitrarily), and the Master somehow able to fire acid semen from his mouth.
- There are a number of easily-justifyable continuity "surprises" in the movie, and one or two Wall Banger adjustments, but Segal's movie really did care — every proposed script prior had been a total Reboot, introducing elements such as the Doctor being the son of Ulysses, the TARDIS being haunted by the spirit of the Doctor's grandfather, the Master being the creator of the Daleks, and the destruction of the Time Lords (Oh... right.). The movie that was actually filmed cared enough to go out of their way to faithfully reproduce the designs of the Tom Baker era TARDIS key and sonic screwdriver, which most fans could not have cared less about. Their hearts were in the right places, it's just that their heads were up their...
- Sci-Fi’s version of The Dresden Files. The only thing the show had in common with the series of novels was that the titular character was a wizard named Harry Dresden.
- Though it was a good series despite this. Even Jim Butcher admitted they couldn't do a 100% perfect adaptation of his works and doesn't really mind the changes, as he views it as a separate universe to his own.
Theater
- Although it was popular, the version of the Threepenny Opera which won at the Tony Awards a few years ago was deeply at odds with Bertolt Brecht's authoral intent. Instead of the original's gloomy atmosphere and characterization of Macheath (Mack the Knife) as a typically conservative gangster with upper middle class ambitions, the production chose a "Studio 54" setting and turned Macheath's discarded mistress, Lucy, into a transvestite who flashes the audience.
- The history of upbeat adaptations of Die Dreigroschenoper is fairly long (and glamourous). First off, when Brecht and Weill wrote the musical Mr. Brecht was not as hardline a communist as he would become. In fact, Weill and Brecht broke off their working relationship due to Brecht's increasing extremism (which led to Brecht adapting the opera into the Author Tract The Threepenny Novel). The first major recording of (Marc Blitzstein's translation of) "Die Moritat von Mackie Messer" was Louis Armstrong's "Mack the Knife". He performed it in his usual loose, exuberant, improvisatory style. Generations of audiences and performers in America heard the Armstrong performance long before they saw the musical.
- Oh, and The Threepenny Opera is based on The Beggar's Opera that is based on the rivalry between two gangs of criminals.
- Way too many operas have been subjected to this treatment in recent decades, particularly in European productions, where many directors have decided that opera needs to get Darker And Edgier with over-the-top violence, gratuitous sex scenes, and Dead Baby Comedy. It doesn't matter if the action on stage tacitly or openly contradicts the words being sung. This article, describing the trend, cites one recent production of The Abduction of the Seraglio, explaining that "neither the streetwalkers nor the whippings, masturbation, and transvestite bondage are anywhere suggested in Mozart’s opera."
Video Games
- The majority of the games based on other fiction count. See The Problem With Licensed Games for some of the major examples.
- The rules of Shadowrun explicitly state that magic can never revive the dead. The Microsoft video game does exactly that, twenty seconds in. Further, the game tosses out the RPG's time line, the "unsexy" species, and any semblance of the game's stealth/tactical roots.
- The brutal oversimplification of the tabletop strategy game Battle Tech done by Microsoft for the Mechassault series (not to be confused with the Mech Warrior series which for the most part is pretty faithful). This included such things as force fields, a gun that shoots lava, magical glowing green piles of salvage that instantly repair damage, infinite ammo, and contact with the ground causing all mechs to explode violently.
- Mech Warrior 4 also added variable-damage weaponry in the form of the Bombast laser, and claimed that the vacuum of space provided improved cooling over air.
- Small Battle Tech note. A variable-damage weapon was later added to BT, but it was not the Bombast laser.
- As of the recent core book, Tactical Operations, there are two kinds weapons that can vary damage: Bombast Lasers and any PPC with a capacitor. Not counting Ultra and Rotary Autocannons, and range-variable weapons like Heavy Gauss Rifles and Snub-nosed PPCs.
- Most Fallout fans dislike Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel (if they know it exists at all, since it was a console-only game while the original games are for the PC). The main reason is that it was created after Interplay fired the entire division of Black Isle Studio which created Fallout cancelling several game series that were in the works like Fallout 3. The game is generally considered a terrible attempt to mimic the success of Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance which were either produced (DA 1) or developed (DA 2) by Black Isle Studio. The game itself was a commercial flop, and made Interplay's financial situations worse.
- The video game adaptations of Hunter: the Reckoning are infamous for turning a tabletop game that's (ostensibly) about gritty, high-strung monster hunting into a Gauntlet clone. It's especially egregious in the second game, Wayward, where one of the setting's biggest psychos becomes a player character.
- This troper had a great time slaying Zombies in Gauntlet fashion, so it may not have done much with the license, but it was a fun game on its own, despite some Nintendo Hard bosses. I haven't played the sequel however.
- An unusual medium for an example is the Madden NFL franchise. It has had a bug for years on end that stops players in simulated games from getting tired, so the backups never play. This means that about five running backs break the all-time rushing record each season, and there are all sorts of other silly consequences. The makers cannot possibly be unaware of the bug, and they just don't care.
- Mortal Kombat: Shaolin Monks, a (re)telling of the events between the end of the original game and the end of Mortal Kombat II, derails so many characters and changes so many established events, one has to wonder if the development team are just sick of the series. Similarly, Mortal Kombat Armageddon completely disregards the storyline established in Deadly Alliance and Deception in favor of a ridiculous Xanatos Roulette based around a one-off Joke Character, tossing in a bunch of nonsensical endings that read like bad Fan Fiction, and not even bothering adding in bios for the characters to explain why they're going after a flaming man on top of a pyramid. As you can imagine, fans are ready to perform their own Fatalities on these games just so they won't have to remember them anymore.
- To be fair, Shaolin Monks brought back a sense of two-player fun not seen since TMNT2 for the NES. On the other hand, MK Armageddon sucked so hard that its taint spread backwards through time and retroactively made MKs 3-6 suck as well due to vaguely referenced story elements. That is how much they did not care. Factoring this in, Shaolin Monks can be said to be the APOGEE of Mortal Kombat.
- Silver Surfer for the NES. On one hand, it does have great graphics (for the NES era), music, and play control. But on the other hand, the gameplay is way, way different as it is difficult: Most of the game is the titular hero shooting up enemies like rubber ducks and ghosts (who take many, many hits to kill), and if Silver Surfer touches anything, he is dead. And weeps like a crybaby. It's obvious the developers had the talent and potential, but they didn't give two bleeps about it.
- The old Valis series was an epic tale of strong female Magic Warriors with swords. Recently, its original publisher went under and sold the rights to a porn game company. The resulting Hentai enraged fans and left everyone else cold.
- The Dawn Of War: Soulstorm expansion. Outsourced to another company that closed down partway into development, and then released anyway. The result was "SPESS MEHREENS!", "We shall take away their metal boxes!", and a few Game Breaking Bugs including one that could result in infinite resources. In multiplayer. All this is understandable, if hilariously awful, but then there were things like having the only recurring character's voice actor still on staff and giving the role to someone else, then only having him grunt a few lines and leave. Or a backwater factory shipping out the oft-cited "tank so big its guns have smaller guns attached to them and is only produced on the most technologically advanced planets in the galaxy" by the hundred (it isn't just game mechanics either. At the start of the said mission it is mentioned that there is a company of the said tanks deployed on the planet. Actually, getting three would be considered extremely lucky). Or, y'know, any of the script writing. Our enemies hide in metal boxes! Of course, some have speculated that, because Iron Lore Entertainment - the company responsible - was closing down after all, they literally didn't care. Perhaps only the ex-staff know.
- This troper outright refuses to play as the Dark Eldar due to their horrible, horrible voice acting.
- Lord of the Rings Online: Shadows of Angmar. The inevitable formula of translating a detailed and reserved world into a video game will obviously lose or bend some things, but completely break them and acknowledge that you could've done otherwise is a whole different ballgame. Enter the Rune-Keeper, where you can play, out of the box, as a magic spell caster, something that was explicitly stated by Tolkien as not only highly improbable and rare, but also required a great deal of power to do so (much more to use in a violent matter). The powers of this class make Gandalf, one of the Istari, look like a conjurer of cheap tricks.
Western Animation
- Two words: Frosty Returns, which was clearly written by people who had never even seen the original. Frosty himself is changed from a Gentle Giant with a childlike innocence and personality into a Large Ham who is somehow omniscient. It would have taken them twenty-two minutes to watch the first one, but apparently they decided that kids wouldn't notice the difference anyway.
- That explains a lot. This troper had often wondered why he'd seen the original so many times, but couldn't seem to remember having ever seen the sequel despite the two almost always being paired on television. Turns out it was retroactive amnesia.
- Rumor has it that Walt Disney's instructions to his crew assigned with writing the script for The Jungle Book were, "The first thing I want you to do is not read the book." That would explain a lot...
- In spite of this, judging by the behind the scenes features on the DVD, the original draft did include more of Kipling's original plot elements, but the various "improvements" made by other scriptwriters whittled them away until...
- Actually, Disney had originally tried to follow the book but decided that the storyline was far too dark for American tastes of the time, so he gave those infamous instructions in regards to the rewrite of the film. The result may have not have anything to do with Kipling, but unlike many examples on this page, it is at least watchable.
- Stargate Infinity. Forget dragon-like Ancients: Apparently the animators thought Stargates have only eight chevrons. Yes, even the one found in Giza, as shown in the opening.
- Shouldn't Tom And Jerry: The Movie have already been listed here?
- Why, hello there, Ben 10 Alien Force. Combo Platter Powers ? Check. Strangled By The Red String ? Check. Redcons ? Check, check and check. They Just Didnt Care ? Boy, howdy.
Other
Real Life
- This.
- Could write pages on people not caring what Chinese characters say. That's why one of this troper's family heirlooms is a scroll showing the special of the day from a restaurant in Beijing.
Comic Books
- Marvel Adventures Iron Man, while overall being a very good series, occasionally fell prey to this. Plant Man modified a "climbing vine", genus Ipomoea. Which is a real plant, and it is a vine, but it's a sweet potato, and a ground vine.
- The internet-based comic book of Re Boot advertised itself as being fan-friendly with comments of how the writers would even ask the advice of fans on issues such as "the colour of Bob's tongue". Would it have killed them to just watch the episodes of Re Boot for themselves if they really cared?
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Cliche: Okay, so why do people object to giving this page the boot? 04/21/2008
Rogue 7: Because while it's probably better off without examples, it's definitely a real phenomenon. You look at Dragonball Evolution and tell me that they cared about the source material at all.
Sharm Hedgehog: I believe I do remember Nobuhiro Watsuki saying that he preferred Shonen manga to have happy endings. It's from when Kenshin thought Kaoru died, and she wasn't, but Enishi was playing a mind game, Watsuki said that although that would've been dramatic, it's better for shonen manga to end happily instead of depressingly. The manga volume was either volume 23 or 24.
Charred Knight: It's volume 24, and I have it here right with me
To be honest if I had put the theme as my first priority, I should have killed Kaoru. The theme would be more apparent, and the story layout would be simplified, bringing a cleaner wrap-up to the plot. In truth, up until the Jinchuu episodes, I was split 50/50 on whether or not to kill her, and was thinking so hard I got a fever.
But after finishing the Kyoto episode, I thought "The basics of a shonen manga are smiles and a happy ending." If Kaoru died, there would be no clear happy end, and so I chose this storyline.
Since I just supplied the quote I am putting it back
Charred Knight: I deleted two entries (Incredible Hulk, and Guidebook to the galaxy) because they where more Adaptation Decay since they generally do seem to have tried to be great movies. I deleted one that was So Bad Its Horrible, and I deleted one because not only did they not write the entry the right way but it just uses the title.
Master Ghandalf: Deleted the new Star Trek movie because it was deliberately set up as an alternate continuity, as is explained quite clearly by both Spocks in-film. Things didn't happen differently from the original continuity because of laziness or apathy, but because that was the point. It was hardly the first reboot of a long-running franchise, and certainly the only one I can think of that deliberately tied itself into the original continuity. And Kirk is hardly the first character to be played by two actors who look different.
Seed: Most, if not all of the Harry Potter movie entries are arguably Adaptation Decay or, it seems, an Unpleasable Fanbase. Case in point: the directors of the first, third, and fifth films are accused of "not caring" that scenes that were cut from those movies were important clues for the last book. A book that would not be written until years after those movies came out, the details of which were kept top secret by the author, and about which the directors had no way of knowing. I'm deleting them.
Deleted the entry on Samurai Pizza Cats. As the TV Tropes entry explains, the series is well-known for making the best of a bad situation, to the point where the original creators prefer the American dub. It's not really a case of someone Not Caring, and more a case of Saban getting caught by early 90s cultural gaps.
Crowbar: I feel that the entry on Samurai Champloo should be removed. This trope is either about poor quality in the work itself or a poor attempt at adaptation (or both), neither of which apply to Champloo.
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