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// Nick Bensema : Incidentally, can anyone point out a popular television show where a prophecy didn't come true?
// Well, the "Shanshu" prophecy on Angel has not reached veracity, yet. However, the target keeps shifting and time is running short, so the issue may be left unresolved. — <with a grin> Weremonkey Gus
//Alias's prophecy's veracity is a bit up for grabs, but that might be just because they got bored of Rambaldi and his yammering — Capoeira Girl
//I'm thinking there might have been some in the first season of Babylon Five; several of the long-term plotlines had to be retooled when Sinclair was replaced by Sheridan, which was not part of JMS's original Myth Arc. I'll try and check some of these when I have more time. — Devils Advocate
Looney Toons: Another note, this time for folks adding to this entry. "Prophecy" is the prediction, a noun; "prophesy" is the verb, to make a prophecy. Ungvichian: Just watched about 30 min. of "Twelve Monkeys" last night, and I question the validity of this (then again, people who've seen the whole film are more qualified than me to do this). Let's look at the definition... "A prophecy (by extension, something that is known to have happened in the past) comes true despite all attempts to prevent it (and often because of those attempts)." Let's look at the parts one by one... (warning, there be spoilage ahead!)
Ununnilium: Took out: Used often with Time Travel, or the antithesis of it. ...because both the first line and the "One technical term..." line imply it. Solandra: Removed the Noir mention due to lack of detail: if anyone can flesh it out, it can go on the Screw Destiny entry because Screw Destiny is basically the subversion of this trope. Tim Stilson: I've been trying to decide if the plot of To Say Nothing of the Dog by Connie Willis is an example of You Can't Fight Fate, or something different. It's been a while since I read it, but my memory is that although through much of the later part of the story it appears that hero might have accidentally prevented an event (which is thought to have initiated the whole reason he was sent back in the first place), it ends up that events worked out to have the same result anyway. In this case, the time traveler accidentally changes something (as opposed to intending to change something) and fears that his present will be affected, but it turns out that it ends up unchanged anyways. Is there a separate name for this variant of history-doesn't-change time-travel? gilroy0: I question whether it's fair to say the Terminator movies contradict their own message ("The future isn't set in stone.") The actual prophecy (or remembered fact) does change: the date of Judgment Day. The future unfolds in a different way. Maybe Judgment Day is a logical necessity of the discovery of AI, not a particular sequence of events. If you adhere to the idea of time like a stream, it's like putting a branch in the stream: the water is diverted but it continues on, and sometime "behind" the branch might still get wet. Zephid: Changed the Quotes Wiki entry to go to the ptitled entry and Cut Listed the old one. Also, the Quotes entry could use some cleaning up. Half the quotes have no attribution and are written like this for some reason. Would it be all right to remove the "Minority Report" version of this? Minority report is the direct opposite of this trope. This is not a spoiler or wrong in any sense; the entire premise starts with the notion that a foretold crime can be stopped if enough is known in advance. |
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