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Tropes Are Tools Discussion
alliterator: Okay, why was this renamed? I didn't see it on the rename forum and it certainly didn't need to be renamed at all. Tropes Are Not Bad was perfectly understandable — Tropes Are Tools could be used as a redirect, but don't rename the entire freakin' thing. EDIT: Well, apparently Tropes Are Not Good and Tropes Are Not Bad were merged. Why? I think shorter pages are easier to read and they didn't really need to be merged.

Some Sort Of Troper: Fast Eddie asked for it. It came from the trope talk forum. He wanted bad and good taken into one page about what trope actually are and then just cut the others. I suggested we actually keep the parts relating to common troper mistakes and put in the redirects so people could still use them in arguments.

I purposefully did a crude job on it so that we could look at what it might be as one page and see how we might go from there. I still think the other pages would be useful but some parts would be moved over to here. I think "fiction is not realistic", "there is nothing new under the sun" and " tropes may be badly written" are better off here.

Sylocat: Well, I brought back my favorite quote...

Joseph Leito: Frankly, I think we should just port the entire Ta NG and Ta NB pages here, more-or-less. I moved what, in my opinion, is an incredibly important section.

Big T: Shouldn't this be Tropes Are Just Tools? Without the word "Just", you are merely defining Trope, which has already been done.

Some Sort Of Troper: That doesn't make it a definition, it makes it a description of its nature. I know a guy called Jeff. Jeff Is Black, I haven't defined Jeff. Jeff rides a bicycle, the Bike Is Blue, I haven't defined what a bicycle is. Our purpose here is to make a statement about the nature of tropes.

Avatar Zero: Where's that quote from? "Action" isn't much of a clue.

Ronnie: ...excuse me, but since when is Monty Python dark and edgy?