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Earnest: What's this?! Where's my delicious Cookie Dough ice cream reference?! Strawberry and Mint you say? Hmm... in the interests of science, I shall try it out myself. Mark my words though! If it is not at least as or more scrumptious than Cookie Dough, it goes!! ... this might take a while though, on a diet at the moment. -_-;
Red Shoe: I was just thinking how funny it would be if once a day, someone came in and edited the Best Ice Cream Flavor.
Citizen: I don't like nuts. >=/
Nevrmore: But if you keep messing with the time stream like that, soon enough the best flavor of ice cream will be like, octopus sucker or something. DON'T YOU SEE THE CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR ACTIONS?!
Inyssius: Actually, uh, You Cant Fight Fate is consistent with Stable Time Loops, Wayback Trips, and Beethoven Was An Alien Spy. San Dimas Time isn't consistent with anything, but it isn't particularly inconsistent with the You Cant Fight Fate model...
Earnest: Ok, switched up the example a bit to make it more contradicting. Here's the removed text.
Wayback Trip and take part in a Stable Time Loop, all while teaching Beethoven (who, by the way, was an alien spy) to rock and roll in San Dimas Time.
HeartBurn Kid: I just had to do it...
Nlpnt: Cookie dough kind of jumped the shark. Originally, there was only one place in the world that had it, the Ben & Jerry's, in downtown Burlington (which made its' ice cream on site pre-Unilever buyout). Sometime in the early '90s, they figured out how to run it through the machines at the factory and you could get it in pints everywhere; not long after, everyone else came out with a version.
It's still really good, but it's just not special anymore.
Kilyle: Huh, guess it wasn't out of place for me to edit the ice cream flavor. In case you don't want to go back thru the history to find out what's been happening, here's a list. Maybe it'll cut down on the repeats? Not likely.
As Regards the BTTF example... It was shown quite clearly in the first film that there's a time-delay in the effect of timeline changes (Though never stated how fast it propogates, etc.) It is perfectly logical to assume that everything that timetravels is similarly subjected to a delayed alteration - including the Delorian. So Old Biff could return to his own future as he'd done so quickly, but the time Marty and the Doc used in getting back to the 'present' and ascertaining the nature of the changes probably made it impossible to travel any further into their native future. Nlpnt: Sources in Waterbury tell me that "A MASSIVE EDIT WAR" ice cream will be available in Northeastern U.S. stores by the beginning of April, with national and Canada rollout by early summer and Europe by the first quarter of 2009 (Hey, it's sooner than most PAL game releases....) Apparently all-time world record amounts of mixed nuts are involved.
Ophicius: Took out some of the quotes at the top, as it was getting slightly ridiculous: "Most people think that time is like a river, that flows swift and sure in one direction... but I have seen the face of time, and I can tell you; they are wrong. Time is an ocean in a storm." The Prince, Prince Of Persia: Sands of Time
"When a Tralfamadorian sees a corpse, all he thinks is that the dead person is in bad condition in the particular moment, but that the same person is just fine in plenty of other moments. Now, when I myself hear that somebody is dead, I simply shrug and say what the Tralfamadorians say about dead people, which is 'So it goes.'"
Billy Pilgrim, Slaughterhouse Five (by Kurt Vonnegut)
"2. Infest the timestream with time-beavers."
Justin B. Rye, Twenty Fun Things To Do With A Time Machine Earnest: Putting them into the Quotes Wiki namespace.
Earnest: What happened to the picture of the ball of yarn? Cassius335: Me, because it didn't seem to have anythging to do with the trope. movie007: I agree that the the ball of yarn didn't fit in too well with the trope. What if we use the time sphere  ◊ from Futurama, instead? It essentually is a literal timey-wimey ball, so I think it'd be perfect.
movie007: I just went ahead and added that. I hope it's okay with everyone.
Circeus: Removed the Harry Potter example. Clearly not a Timey Wimey Ball, or at least definitely less convincingly so than most other examples. Oh, what was the movie with the guy who was a cop and his father was a firefighter, now dead, but they can communicate via magic radio? The "rules" of time travel changed several times in that movie, sometimes within a single scene. For example: Most changes to the past alter the present immediately, but when the main character as an adult, tells his older brother as a child to invest in Yahoo, his brother doesn't become rich in the present until several other edits have occured. Fire Walk: I believe your thinkng of Frequency: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0186151/ , yes?
TheNinthDoctor: I think that Journeyman should be removed. The effects of time travel were the same in each and every episode: Dan jumps back, changes something, and when he returns to the present everything and everyone except himself and his memory is changed. I do not remember them varying from that once. Even when he [spoiler]met another traveler[/spoiler] it worked the same way. TheNinthDoctor: No one has voiced any objections, so I'm going to remove Journeyman from Timey Wimey Ball. Again, it seems the trope is about inconsistent use of time travel, and time travel has the same effects in every single episode of Journeyman. It never varies. Ouroboros Removed:
fleb: Cut for saying the exact opposite of what resembles truth.
Ulti S.: Removed for being a duplicate:
Joie De Combat: Cut the example from The Girl Who Leapt Through Time - Makoto's own leaps never reset the number of leaps she has. It's a leap performed by Chiaki which gives Makoto back her last leap, and Makoto in turn is able to give Chiaki back a leap the same way; it's internally consistent, it just hadn't come up before because Chiaki had been saving his last jump up until that point. Haven: Took out this from under the Marvel Universe example because that last bit is rather the point, and also, well: no? This must be the weirdest Justifying Edit I've ever seen, partly because the whole thing that makes the Marvel Universe such a great example of this trope is that it's forty years of stories, in which Time Travel is a frequent plot device, and there's no central way that time travel works beyond the needs of the individual story...but mostly because it's a very weird Justifying Edit.
Cambdoranononononono: Removing The Company Novels because the issue doesn't seem to be accurate; even late novels and knowledgeable characters still invoke the "recorded history can't be changed" rule. Thnikkafan: So... this trope is about how fucked up time travel can get? Lord Seth: It's more supposed to be about inconsistency. For example, you can have the kind of time travel where whatever you do already happened (Stable Time Loop), and you can have the kind of time travel where going back in time can change the past. The problem is when a series haphazardly lets characters do both, especially when they utilize the same kind of time travel each time. (at least if their method of time travel is different each time, one can claim that the rules are different for them) |
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