The Rashomon Discussion - Television Tropes & Idioms

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Higurashi no Naku Koro ni at first looks like an example of this trope, but later reveals a different explanation. Removed from list.

Jordan: How about that spoof Rashomon from one of the Avatar episodes- the one with the feuding tribes- kind of also a twisted Aesop- since Aang's "true" account of events is completely fabricated it subverts the message of unity and tolerance at the end.

Cassius335: Not so much a Broken Aesop as a case of "What they don't know won't hurt them."

Anomaly: So very true - I loved the practical resolution to that episode. On another note, quick question. Would the four Biblical Gospels, each being from a different author, count as this? If so... well, I'm sure you know where I'm going with this.

Jordan: Revisiting my earlier comment, probably shouldn't have said that it subverts a positive message. My opinion was more along the lines that the ending was an interesting twist on the ending you might expect. I'd also agree the Gospels would count- haven't read much of the New Testament but for instance, I know that the accounts of the culpability of Jews for Jesus' death vary among the authors as I think does whether Jesus is related to King David on Joseph or Mary's side.

Big T: Well, the Gospels are a bit more complex in their authorship, but I guess it'd be easier than explaining that at least two of the authors "verified" their facts with another, and that at least one collected details from multiple sources.

(still Big T) The thing I do find a little weird is the comment after the biblical example is raised.

**And Truth In Television to boot, especially if you're Non-Christian!

Why exactly would someone need to be a "Non-Christian" to believe that this is Truth In Television? Wouldn't it only work if you assume that a large portion of the Gospel narratives are true? This is a belief that I thought was more common with Christians.

Anyways, I'm going to remove that line, since changing it to "especially if you're a Christian" would seem to be just a fraught with peril as well, and the Truth In Television line doesn't stand very well on its own. Perhaps a reword is in order? Wiki Magic away!

fleb: The Haruhi example is a Square Peg Round Trope. The Wolf's Rain is closer, but it's just a set of themed clip shows.

* In the fifth episode of Suzumiya Haruhi No Yuutsu, an alien, a time traveler, and an esper each explain how they came to be secretly observing Haruhi and what they believe she actually is.

* The entire fourth disk of Wolfs Rain is composed of filler episodes made from spliced-together footage from the rest of the series. Each is narrated by a different wolf, and emphasizes different events, but the events don't really change.

Raiko: This may be unrelated to the trope itself, but still, I'm going to mention it here for the sake of having something to do with the trope name:(also, don't know how to link to pages(new troper here), so if anyone wants to take care of that, go right ahead.)

Sakon and Ukon, two fused ninja from the Naruto series, have(at least in some of the games, don't know if they used this move in the series) the ability to summon a creature that's actually called Rashomon. It takes the shape of a large gate, the doors modelled after one of those snarling Oni faces and with chained weights on one side. A typical tactic of theirs(called Rashomon: Abyss) is to summon it vertically, below the opponent's feet, where the weighs slowly pull the gates open, leaving their foe to plummet and get hurt in some manner.

itsmeyouidiot: I added a laconic entry. I thought I might add some humor to the links at the bottom, though.

rlc: Can something really be a trope maker if the trope itself existed long before the claimed trope maker was conceived? Basically, what I'm saying is, if something was in the Bible, wouldn't that more likely be the trope maker than some Japanese movie?

Shale: As noted in the Trope Maker definition, Ur Example is something different.

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