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Describe The Obi Wan Discussion here.
Is the father in Six Feet Under really an Obi-Wan? He doesn't exactly pass on much before he dies, certainly not on-camera, at least. I'd describe him merely as Spirit Advisor.
Jordan: I wonder if it's true that the example given is the only subversion- aren't trickster mentors or mentor moles a subversion of the Obi Wan- for instance, Lliam Nielsen's character in Batman Begins seems a lot like an Obi Wan at first.
Ununnilium: This is a good point. Going over to the really-needs-a-new-name Mentor Mole to add that.
Phinoix Whight has this with his mentor who gets killed at the begginging of his second case, but he meets her sister who is a spirit medium.
Shay Guy: Regarding the TTGL note...this is the sorta thing that annoys me about the spoiler thing, because the tag is practically useless. Anyone who's seen even episode 1 - or hell, has even heard of the character in question - can guess who it is. /me continues to await the Semantic Web Charred Knight: I don't know where this new fad of just striking out some thing wrong is but its annoying, just delete the thing that is wrong. In case you want to know he re-opens his tea shop
Removed Giles as an example since he's a mentor who isn't faster or stronger than the protagonist, who doesn't die. Hardly a stellar example of the trope, also some conversation.
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