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I believe this article could use a substantial rewrite. It says that the variations in spelling are usually do to transliteration issues, but not from the using different transliteration schemes. WTF?
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ILP: "Ah My Goddess: the names of Belldandy, Skuld and Urd come from three Norse goddesses: Verthandi, Skuld and Urth. The videogame Freelancer does a Shout Out to this series by naming three battleships like the Norse goddesses." Citation please. Freelancer is a Western space sim, are we supposed to believe that such a thing would contain a shout out to a Japanese manga series that has precisely zero relation to any aspect of the plot? Is it not more likely that the battleships were named thus simply because they were part of Norse mythology, just like how many other Rhineland ships, such as RNS Loki, were named? Put another way, are we supposed to believe that the main character from Hellsing is a shout out to a song by British band Gentle Giant? I'm removing the Freelancer reference because I don't feel it's correct (as you've probably guessed). Put it back in if you actually have some kind of source Xenon: Can we agree to ditch every single plain jane L/R and B/V reference in this trope? Japanese has no L or V (though R is often pronounced like some mismash of L and R), and hence, nothing is wrong or right in that particular instance. There are exceptions, of course, like when they're obviously going for some reference that only works with one way. But I gotta say it's annoying seeing all these "It's Vick but it's supposed to be Bick!" references. -Z- : In all fairness, even Banpresto can't decide on Zengar's name. Different artbooks spell it differently from one another... But this is the first place I've seen his surname spelled with an A. I've adopted a rule of going with what the script says instead of the Official References; the voice actors seem to know what they're saying a lot more than the production teams do. Especially since the japanese language is so literal about vowels; I suspect noone at Banpresto knows that "Sänger" and "ゼンガー" do not sound alike. Let's also note their fall aparts when romanizing their own language; The artbooks have repeately had erroneous Ws strewn about in ship names, as an example. I extend this to any non-l/r hiccup based disputes with name transliteration. Nanoha is a big source of these things. Nerem: Actually, "Sanger" and "whatyoutypedbutIcan'tbutfanonizedasZengar" DO sound exactly alike. As a German speaker, I can confirm it. However, where have you seen it spelled any as anything but 'Sanger', as even @2 had it spelled like that. Xenon: Seriously, go play Alpha 2, when the characters are initially shown, his name is clearly spelled out as Sanger. I've n ever seen an official source use the romanized "Zengar", only in Katakana (which is only pronunciation) Darmok: The movie The Pope Must Die (also called The Pope Must Diet in the US) uses a similar concept. Robbie Coltraine's character, Father Albinizi, is made pope because of an error caused in writing down "Father Albini". The priest transcribing the name was hard of hearing and misheard "I said 'i'" for "i-z-i". Ununnilium: Merged the two segments, because the examples for each are now helplessly entangled. Boobah: Pulled: "Inversion: In Bleach, Yasutora Sado insists that his name be pronounced with an S even if the speaker is capable of pronouncing "Chad", in honor of his Japanese heritage (the other half being Mexican)." Because his name is Sado; the first character in his name can be pronounced either way. Ichigo misreads it, thinks that "Chado" is cooler and makes it his nickname for Sado. Most of the boys in their class pick it up. Orihime and Uryuu in particular always refer to him as Sado.
 which seems to indicate that its supposed to be a pun. To make matters more complicated Tales of phantasia was developed by Wolf Team and not Namco.
Caphi: I'm not talking about the De Jap translation. I'm talking about Romaji clearly seen in the credits for the Japanese PSX remake. I'm not so stupid as to mistake De Jap for final word. I can provide a screenshot if you like. It says, quite clearly, "Cless Alvein."
Nezumi: "Official" is not the same thing as correct. I'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who seriously thinks that the name of the Star Ocean 2 male lead was intended to be "Crawd", rather than "Claude", or that a certain Front Mission 3 character was intended to be "Blenda", as listed in the JP manual... but those are the most official names for them.
arromdee: Took out the mention that Asimov's title is explained in Wikipedia. We really don't need to reference things here, and the Wikipedia reference was obviously added because someone thought it was a neat story but wasn't completely sure, so they blamed it on Wikipedia. I was an Asimov fan as a kid and heard of the story long before Wikipedia; Asimov mentioned it somewhere in his own works (I bet you can find it in his autobiography or some other non-Googleable place.) Does this trope also include the tendency of many Asians to add extra vowels to european words, in order to break up strenuous (to them) european consonent clusters? Easy example from Neon Genesis Evangelion: Shinji attempting to return Asuka's "Guten morgen" and coming up with "morugen". Dr Dedman: It's the nature of the language. Japanese is made up 5 "lone" vowels (a,e,i,o,u with no "long" pronunciation) 1 consonant "n" and about 40 consonant plus vowel "clusters" (ra, sa, ta, etc). There is literally no way to make an ending "r" sound. Thus Shinji rolls the "r" to a "ru". The German has 2 sylables, put into Japanese it would have 4 equally-weighted "mora". Thus "mo-ru-ge-n". The Kakapo: I've never really understood why the "r" in Japanese is translated so slavishly to either "r" or "l" in English, given that more often than not, it sounds much more like the English (actuually, closer to the Spanish equivalent) sound "d" than "r," especially in the middle of words. Like "Kitara" would sound much closer to "Kitada" than "Kitara" or "Kitala" in English. I mean, I know the whole language is like that, but... they don't even make the American r sound! Why bother! </tangent> Anonymous Mc Cartneyfan: For the sake of speakers of British English, who might also want the English-language copies? Their "r"'s often don't sound like American "r"'s either (no one else's "r"s do), but they are definitely "r"s to them! Don Quigleone: anyone considered that this trope is just as much to do with the fact that English has no consistent spelling system? The 40 sounds of the English language can be spelled in something like 10000 different ways, this stands in contrast to other languages (like korean) which have a 1:1 basis most of the time, I added it in on the main page, if anyone can improve it please do Rebochan: I must say, I never thought I'd be writing this much about Sailor Moon's etymology again. I hope it hasn't gone into natter territory. Servbot: Removed...
had "Zi" as ズィ. My sister has a Japanese text book, for some reason, I probably should have checked that instead. I'm listening to Nanoha say it now and I still think it sounds like Raging Heart (comparing it to when Fate yells "Thunder Rage" or whatever it was in season one).
If ジ is both ji and zi why is it definitely Raising Heart? Is there some source I’m unaware of (granted I’m not aware of much it seems)? Where is it "clearly and consistently" labelled Raising Heart?
Has anyone ever considered that it might be Razeing Heart? Because you know... ;-)
Servbot: Well, for one thing, every time it's spelled in English (DVD Notes, Opening, ID Cards, etc), it's always spelled as Raising. And remember, Raising Heart was not always the Wave Motion Gun we know and love. Once upon a time, in an omake of Triangle Heart 3 Sweet Songs Forever that most Nanoha fans doesn't know exists, Raising Heart looked like this.
Sgamer82: For what it's worth, the recently released English-dubbed DV Ds use "Raging Heart", both in-dub and in-subtitles.
djkates: Just saw arromdee's edit on the whole "Hebrew Name of God" thing, and I'm confused. Not saying he's wrong or anything, but the way I learned it in Hebrew school was "always read it as Adonai", and the few times I've seen it with vowels at all, it's always been the ones for Adonai. Elohim is fairly often used to refer to God, but any time I've seen that, Elohim's always been spelled out (aleph-lamed-hay-yud-mem, if you're wondering). 'Course, part of it is simply that this particular (sub?) example has gotten pretty long, and I'm tempted to simply trim it to saying that there's no correct Hebrew pronunciation of yud-hay-vav-hay and ending it there. LATER: Trimmed the example. Not that the additional material was uninteresting or anything, but the example itself is barely within scope, and most of the info is of interest only if you're Jewish or a linguist. Prfnoff: This is an interesting note, but "differences in romanization systems" account for the discrepancy, since Hepburn uses "zu" rather than "dzu":
Rebochan: I took the image down because it didn't have anything to do with the page except trying to add fire to the flaming on one of the entries. It doesn't even spell her name with an S, sigh. Anyone got a good image of, say, multiple spellings of a character's name? Or someone actually demanding to have their name spelled differently?
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