Sikon: What... the... heck?
Neep: It's a
Self Demonstrating Article.
Cospinol: You should think about re-naming this page SCP-076-1.
- Kimura: Why would this page be SCP-076-1? The existing SCP-076
is nothing like it. Besides, the wiki is already designated SCP-4445.
Sines: I normally like self-demonstrating articles but this is just messy. I ended up with no better an understanding than "It's a Men-In-Black kinda thing". Needs to be more direct, or at least more explanatory (If the nature of the story (Is it a story? Website? I have no idea) is that vague, it should be mentioned.
Yubi Shines: You know... 231 is worrying and all, but there's literally hundreds of other articles that could be pulled up as examples. Why all the focus on that one?
mew_at_heart: Probably because it's one of the most memorable? People add the first examples they think of, and since 231 is really,
really horrifying on so many levels, a lot of people think of it when adding examples.
Circeus: I gotta admit it is onbe that will jump to your mind whenever any trope that could apply to it is mentioned. Maybe a characters page is in order because of it XD
Clef: Made some edits.
Haven: Bwa ha ha. I believe I'm going to get myself recruited, and then probably horribly killed. I have like five ideas for
SC Ps, which I can only assume means four are horribly cliche and one is mediocre. But that's newbieism for ya! Anyway, here's a
wordle for this page.
Ray Ayanami: Look out guys, "Dr. Ray A??????" is up to a
new SCP.
Ajardoor: Maybe I'm just stupid, but I can't see the
Shout Out to Persona3 in the link provided on the page. Little help?
Unknown Troper: Removed the
Lawful Stupid Chaotic Stupid entry, as the Foundation's tendency toward
Murder Is The Best Solution isn't Lawful or Chaotic.
Foryn: It is Lawful in that they make the policy and then they follow it, its not like they claim to be under any nation's laws and then hypocritically disregard them. But I do also support the remove.
- Unknown Troper: (not the above, but...) Considering what the Foundation deals with, it doesn't exactly fall under the idea of Stupid. The Foundation may be extreme in their methods, but its justified extremism. They deal with scary shit and they take no chances on said scary shit.
- Also, if you read more carefully, you'll see that very few items' histories actually involve the Foundation killing anyone they don't genuinely need to (other than D-Class). In at least one case, the Foundation took considerable pains to avoid attracting any notice at all. They didn't use so much as a Class-A amnesiac.
Whitewings: Removed
Arson Murder And Jaywalking because the scenario in question involved an earlier SCP-098 object. I moved the reference to a possible XK-class scenario to the End of the World entry, and removed the reference to SCP-098
Unknown Troper: Pulled the
The Guards Must Be Crazy entry. Gotta give something better than a vague statement on guards being phenominally stupid.
- The Guy Who Wrote That: I actually thought reading this page alone gave enough examples of Foundation affiliates getting tossed the extra large Idiot Ball. Starting with the general attitude "It looks like a cute girl so it must be harmless.." which some of the higher ups criticized several times, to curing hangover with one of <<really low number>> of pills which seem to cure practically everything or requesting all sorts of drugs from the universal dispensing machine and then using those themselves while on site. Reading these examples I seriously doubt that recruiting involves any kind of screening process. I would start a Just Bugs Me page, if I cared enough. Just as an aside: This isn't wikipedia and there are tons of other entries without examples, so it's a bit beyond me why you chose to pull this one.
- Unknown Troper: The instance with the Foundation apparently being lenient on little girls was from an irate, annoying asshole (Clef) who was being sarcastic at the time. In SCP-294's case, they have two guards explictly stationed next to the damn thing in order to keep anyone from screwing around with it outside of research. In SCP-500's case, you are not allowed to use it to cure a hangover. There's a reason for the "get AIDS first and then ask for permission" comment. The person who stole the SCP-500 pill was a D-Class personnel anyway, and you should already know what kind of people those guys are. Not to mention its funny.
Evondral: The Laconics must really hate this page.
owh: Just a personal opinion, the writeup on this page does a really bad job of telling the viewer exactly what it is. Okay,
Self Demonstrating Article and all, but I can't decypher what any of it means other than X-Files mumbo jumbo. And I'm not going to visit the site because there's too many
High Octane Nightmare Fuel entries for me to even attempt it. This needs a Laconic or something.
- Unknown Troper:"the incomplete archives of the SCP Foundation, a secret, global organization which exists to study, catalogue, and contain SCP Objects: artifacts and "items which jeopardize normalcy". These range from humans with strange powers, to creatures of extraterrestrial or extradimensional origin, to objects causing unexplainable phenomena, to [DATA EXPUNGED]. All of them represent clear threats to human normalcy, human society, human sanity, human lives, or quite simply the universe at large." I fail to see how that paragraph doesn't explain exactly what the Foundation is.
Fast Eddie: Anyone who doesn't get the article isn't going to get SCP, anyway. Moving on ...
Phartman: Stop right there. You can't make up a page consisting of internal jargon and then dismiss anyone who isn't already familiar with said jargon. For anyone confused by the needlessly cute verisimilitude that makes up the main page: The SCP Foundation is just a bunch of fictitious "phenomena" presented in a faux-official manner; there isn't a lot there to get once you get past the doublespeak.
Whitewings: Removed the
And I Must Scream entry. SCP-014 can talk, and does. I know; SCP-014 is my own creation.
(random passer-by): ya know, I recognized some of this stuff from 4chan's /x/ ("paranormal") board. I don't know enough about the people responsible for the site, though, to know whether they are trying to do something coherent and create a credible fictional 'Verse, or whether they're just being silly ("I did it for the lulz!" so to speak). Possibly that's not an "or" question.
Fridge Logic brings up too many questions about most of the articles (as others have noted, the body counts here are pretty ludicrous, how many thousand Ph.D. level researchers get killed in any given year by this stuff again? How many thousand "class D personnel"—prisoners sentened to the death penalty—are they using up every week? Surely a large multiple of the number of people actually sentenced to death in the US) for me to think of it as anything but a collection of amusing and imaginative black humor, maybe adaptable to pen-and-paper
RP Gs, and yeah, as other people have noted, trying to
Archive Binge results in mental indigestion. There's too much squick, insufficient humor, too much
Fridge Logic about body counts, and reflecting after reading keeps bringing me back to the organization's human rights record—these particular MIB are apparently not merely willing but cheerfully eager to "decommission" (read: kill) human beings whose sole crime is to have an odd or unusual power, or if they find the power useful,
there are worse things than mere death. This tends to suck all the fun out of it for me. Some of these ideas would be great additions to a Delta Green campaign, though—if not used to excess.
Someone mentioned whether "scheduled monthly termination" was still canon?
SCP-466 currently mentions it. It's not totally explicit what's meant by "
termination", though. —
Document N
Nezumi: The shout-outs attributed to SCP-194 and SCP-196 seem
incredibly dubious. All SCP-194 has in common with the supposed source is the extra hour at midnight — the nature, effects, and virtually everything else are all different. SCP-196 is even
more dubious — the
only thing he has in common with the character in question is a connection to SCP-194 — abilities, appearance, what's known of personality, origins... all different. The only reason I'm adding a discussion comment rather than deleting it outright is that it's
possible that the
TV Tropes entry was written by the same person that wrote the
SC Ps, and they
did intend them as hyper-oblique references to the game and character in question.
Anonymous Coward - Why did Janitor, a damn admin of all things, go berserk and delete a perfectly good page? It should be noted that wasn't a
main page and thus didn't need "natter cleanup" or whatever. Seriously, guys, stop using "We are Not A Blog/Forum" as if it was as legit was
Tropers Law.
Unknown Troper: "It wasn't a main page" is irrelevant. It wasn't a discussion page, and more than half of the entires were natter. In fact, the vast majority of the
High Octane Nightmare Fuel pages tend to attract obscene amounts of natter. That and Janitor isn't just an admin, she's an
owner of the site, so when she says it is law,
it is law.
Passerby -
Because Word of Jesus OBVIOUSLY makes a legit, tropable page not legit. Hey, never mind the fact said "entries" could have done with some clean-up.
Kimura: Anyone come up with an idea for why SCP-447 must never touch a dead body? My explanation:
Zombie Apocalypse. Based on both the main article and
Experiment Log 447-A, the goo is known to improve quite a lot of things, particularly biological stuff. My theory is that if a dead body touches SCP-447 or a derivative of it (like that super-cement stuff), the goo "enhances" the dead body to the point of [DATA EXPUNGED]. Probably a more efficient way of causing a
Zombie Apocalypse than
dead body + battery... On a side note, anyone notice how similar the Foundation and
the Warehouse are in function? Maybe competing organizations...
Kimura: Also, one more important thing: The Foundation is in the middle of a Mass Edit to fix up articles and expunge craptacular or low-rated SCPs. However, this means that several links on the page now go to Nonexistant SCP Articles. A post on the Foundation's forums says that Dr. Gears is thinking we'd take care of the messed up links, so... how about we take care of that? Like follow every outbound link on the main article and
Addendum 4445-01 to see if they still lead to the right SCP (or if they lead to one at all). I could get this started, but I can't do it alone.
