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Scifantasy: About the origin of the term "lampshade hanging"...
I quote J Michael Straczynski in part from a book of Babylon5 scripts:
"Bob [Robert Swanson, a fellow TV writer] loved construction metaphors. So you'd...hang a lantern on it to strongly illuminate a story point..."
Clearly Swanson didn't invent the term, but this can't be a coincidence.
Ununnilium: Possibly "hang a lantern" is an alteration based on a supposed construction-based etymology. Or, possibly, it's the "lampshade" etymology that's wrong. Hm.
Scifantasy: Yeah, I dunno. But it seemed worth it to mention this.
Tabby: For whatever it's worth, I'd always heard "lantern" before I found this site.
Airbud: The etymology for "lampshade" in the current article doesn't make a lot of sense to me. In that case, a lampshade is meant to conceal something obvious, while this trope is about calling attention to something obvious.
Gus Seconded. I pulled it out to here:
The "lampshade" name is possibly derived from a old stage comedy convention where a character hides from another character on the same stage, while remaining visible to the audience, by hanging a lampshade on his head and, presumably, disguising himself as a lamp. Apparently people do not notice large human-shaped lamp stands appearing from nowhere. This itself was referenced in some early Looney Tunes that had the hiding characters say "click" or light up like a bulb when someone tried to turn the light on.
Ununnilium: I dunno, it makes sense to me as an example of Lampshade Hanging.
Morgan Wick: Mostly because what the term reminds me of is the idea of drunk people hanging lampshades on their heads and dancing.
Keenath: Between Stargate SG 1 and Babylon 5, I think 'lantern' is probably the right version of the phrase. 'Lampshade' could be a confusion of the term, but it doesn't really make sense.
A lampshade would suggest (as previously discussed) "hidden from the characters, but visible to the audience". This is actually the opposite of what hanging a lantern does, which is to have the characters acknowledge the odd element — far from acting as if they can't see it.
Ununnilium: Well, Gus's origin makes the "lampshade" version make sense, but it might be a justification of a corruption of "lantern". Either way, though, it's far too late to change the trope name.
Webrunner: Okay, so, um, shouldn't the blurb at the top at least reference the actual decided correct name (next to 'hanging a clock')
BT The P: Unnamed guy, "Fred" was correct. Look here Someone added the following example: The Mad About You episode "The Conversation" was filmed in a single shot (see The Oner), except for The Teaser and The Tag. In The Tag, when Paul and Jamie are watching and discussing a movie filmed in that way, Jamie can't understand why anyone would go through all the effort to do that. I don't believe this is Lampshade Hanging, unless there were lots of other single-shot episodes of Mad About You. The techniqe itself is not particularly unlikely or overused. —- this was pulled out, because it didn't really add anything (to which the appropriate response is "That's because you are!") Tabby: Is there any elegant way to verb this? It's easy to start a sentence with "Subverted in an episode of..." or "Parodied by the whole concept of...", but this particular trope just seems to lend itself to awkward phrasing. Robert: 'Pointedly highlighted in/by ...'? Gus: I'd do tenses/forms of 'hang', in a double-bracket. Like so: "This was hung in the episode by ..." or "This notions was strung up when Pete did the thing with the deal-y." Ununnilium: I usually use "Lampshaded by..." Gus: pulled out ...
Rika: There's talk that in the Star Trek Deep Space Nine Episode "Let He Who Is Without Sin", the writers had a few characters (Bashir, Jadzia) oppose Worf's attendance and the plot to make it seem reasonable, while really saying "this plot is bad." ref Seth: That wrestling line about the weapons should be the page quote. HeartBurn Kid: I agree, so I decided to put it up there. Ununnilium: Took out... (BTW, if there was a trope for vacation episodes, this ep would be the ultimate subversion: Mac and co never actually leave the states!) ...because it doesn't have anything to do with this trope. Sikon: I feel bound to ask a question raised at http://slumbering.lungfish.com/?cat=1&paged=4: Silent Hunter: Today's (10/10/2007) Irregular Webcomic is about Lampshade Hanging and references this entry in the annotation. Good job people! Fast Eddie: Don't put that long-ass South Park quote at the top. It's too long. Works fine as an example. Trogga: But it's better than that WWE quote. And I don't like examples that are just quotes. Silent Hunter: Request that we put the Twelfth Night quote at the top. Prfnoff: Didn't understand how "Buffy vs. Dracula" was an example of Lampshade Hanging. Moved it to the recently created trope Your Costume Needs Work. Requesting that someone put in Saddler's final schpeel from Resident Evil 4. I'd do it myself, but I can't remember exactly what he says.
Big T: I tried to put the picture into a quoteleft box to make the caption line up correctly, but quoteleft doesn't quite work like quoteright. I left a note on the Wiki Tech Wish List for Janitor to fix it. But, if she doesn't, we can always use quoteright... Ununnilium:
Starscream: Where'd all the examples go? Is someone rewriting the article? Fermatprime: I feel like the majority of examples in this article would fit in better elsewhere — for example, to No Fourth Wall, to Genre Savvy, or to Medium Awareness. To me at least, lampshading is pointing out the use of a trope — not just generically breaking or denting the fourth wall. Chad M: I am loathe to cut out an example multiple people have obviously worked on, but to me the Galaxy Quest example doesn't count at all. I mean, it's not a lampshade hanging if all the things being made fun of are the object of parody, is it? (the examples they refer to all come from the show-within-the-movie which is of course a parody of popular sci-fi TV in general and Star Trek in particular) Lampshade/Lantern Hanging launched as Lampshade Hanging: From YKTTW Tamfang: The closing paragraph of John Dickson Carr's novella "The Third Bullet" might be worth quoting, either here or elsewhere: "In one way this has been a very remarkable case," said Colonel Marquis. "I do not mean that it was exceptionally ingenious in the way of murders, or (heaven knows) that it was exceptionally ingenious in the way of detection. But it has just this point: it upsets a long-established and domineering canon of fiction. Thus. In a story of violence there are two girls. One of these girls seems dark-browed, sour, cold-hearted, and vindictive, with hell in her heart. The other is pink-and-white, golden of hair, innocent of intent, sweet of disposition, and (ahem) vacant of head. Now by the rules of sensational fiction there is only one thing that can happen. At the end of the story it is proved that the sullen brunette, who snarls all the way through, is really a misjudged innocent who wants a lot of children and whose hardboiled worldly airs are a cloak for a modern girl's sweet nature. The baby-faced blonde, on the other hand, will prove to be a raging, spitting demon who has murdered half the community and is only prevented by arrest from murdering the other half. I glorify the high fates, we have here broken that tradition! We have here a dark-browed, sour, cold-hearted girl who really is a murderess. We have a rose-leaf, injured, generous innocent who really is innocent. Play up, you cads! Vive le roman policier! Ave Virgo! Inspector Page, gimme my hat and coat. I want a pint of beer."
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