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Kendra Kirai: The Maaka/Marker thing is fairly understandable, actually. With the 'Marker' name, it would pin Karin as being non-japanese. She actually spells it differently as well (Japanese writing is weird). Also, Marker and Maaka *sound* identical in japanese.
Chrome Newfie: True - in the manga, the parents retain the "Marker" spelling as they have stronger ties to the mainland, whereas the kids use "Maaka". However, in the subbing I've seen, the transliteration isn't consistent. Either way, it seems a trope example, doesn't it?
Kendra Kirai: Oh, I don't see why it wouldn't me, I'm just saying, it's understandable, and not really as arbitrary or accidental as the writeup kinda makes it seem.
Chrome Newfie: Noted, and edit made to take that into consideration.
Citizen: I disagree with the inclusion of The Nose Bleed. I mean, yes, Karin's nose bleeds do play a big role in the series, but it's not that kind of a nose bleed. =P Left in on second thought because I can't remember if Winner does this or not. ^^
Seth: Artistically it is treated the same as normal nosebleeds in anime (Though the flower design they add to them is hilarious) but i think you could call this a subversion of The Nose Bleed
Pavlov: Karin's nosebleed is completely a subversion. Before she knows she's attracted to the lead, she's nose-bleeding around him all the time, as a hint to the viewer. She gets the blood-throb around lots of others, but the spew only happens for the romantic lead.
seth: I rewrote the entry on The Nose Bleed to highlight the subversion.
Pavlov: I like that. Nicely done!
The Defenestrator: The manga is quite a bit better than the anime. That is all.
Rebochan: I changed the image for the page - I wasn't so keen on such a random screenshot like that. If this is a problem, discuss it here.
Pavlov: Hey, what's this Shotacon stuff about? As I recall from the anime, Elda liked the blood of lovers, not young stuff. Morven: I agree; it's a misuse of the term. Elda found young lovers to be delicious, but that's only a matter of intensity and ease of hunting, as well as wanting to see where Karin was going to school. Anonymous: Actually, It is probably James who needs the young blood, as Elda feeds it to his corpse. Also, it is mentioned that he hurts humans when he feeds on them, so that could back it up as teens may not have as much blood as adults. Also, Elda's Blood preference may not be lovers in the manga, as it is never explicitly told. I suppose they only made it so in the anime so that it would fit, but Yuna Kagisaki never actually stated what her blood preference is. Pavlov: Moved it here for safe keeping.
Anonymous: Should we add The Reveal to it, as, in the manga...well, if you read the truth about Karin's condition...yea... Rebochan: Pulled these: Did Not Do The Research - Particularly regarding the Church. Those more familiar with the various mainstream denominations will find their genocidal motivations a bit off, and one need only be a student of Western history to know that by the 18th century the century in which the author set the genocide even the Catholics had pretty much gotten tired of Inquisitions. Strawman Has A Point - The story waxes Anvilicious in places, going on about how unkind it was for the humans (and the Church, which is not nicely-portrayed at all) to evict the vampires from their homes in Europe. Apparently they never bothered to consider the fact that they suck blood from people's necks. Yes, I know it's not real blood and yes, they would die without and yes, it can be beneficial, but the fact remains that they are engaging in a highly predatory behavior without getting the human's consent or even letting them know that they're not in any danger. Lurking in dark places doesn't help their case any. From the human perspective, vampires are super-powerful creatures that live in the danger-ridden darkness and have no more compunctions than a leopard might about chomping on your jugular. Did we have a Single Issue Wonk waltz in at some point? The first is obviously stretching reality for the sake of fiction since, you know, VAMPIRES AREN'T REAL ANYWAY. The second completely misses the point - the vampires aren't hurting anyone and while some are predatory, some aren't and try to control their urges safely. They also don't kill people. Plus they can't help being born the way they are, so killing them all instead of finding a way for them to survive in harmony is pretty cold. Plus arguing that the show is anti-Christian is already erecting another Strawman of its own, but that's beside the point. |
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