Sikon:
- Why don't the monsters in question just attack during the Transformation Sequence? She's wide open, after all.
Because the transformations are instantaneous, and are only shown in "slow-motion" for
Fan Service. Why they don't attack during the
In The Name Of The Moon speech, however, is another question.
- Kamineko is always going to bite Sakaki. Sakaki most likely knows this. So why does she keep trying to pet him?
Zeke: C'mon — if you have to ask, you're not paying attention. Sakaki is utterly, self-destructively obsessed with cute things. Every time Kamineko shows up, she persuades herself that maybe he was just in a bad mood every previous time, maybe it'll be different now. She's Bart with the electric cupcake. She'll never learn.
Scrounge: It goes back to Charlie Brown and the football, at least. Probably a lot farther. There's a million running gags like this, and the same could be said of any one of them.
- Those guys with the blue gloves...
Scifantasy: The three-part comic "Those Left Behind" fills in some of the gaps, both about the Hands of Blue and for that matter Book leaving
Serenity. Worth a read.
- Those guys with the blue gloves have this little wand that makes a high-pitched sound. That sound causes people to bleed from every orifice and die. Given they don't even have earplugs, why are the blue-gloved guys unharmed? It's not like a Neuralizer from Men in Black, either, since you can't really aim sound.
Colin: What do you mean you can't aim sound? Put the source of sound in a soundproof box, then cut a hole in the direction you what the soundwaves to go. While it wouldn't be like a strait laser (itself aimed waves), it could offer reasonable protection from the sounds effects.
Man Called True: Okay, you can aim sound (I felt like a dunce when that hit me, just after I typed it)... but you ever see their weapons? They're these thin little rods, kind of like glowsticks, and the noise seems to be coming from the ends. They don't even bother with a
Hand Wave - the guys are just unaffected.
J Random User: Complaining about a lack of explanation for a plot point in a show that was cancelled well before its time seems a little petty. No doubt Joss would have provided an explanation for the rod if the show had continued. Suffice it to say, the sound is not necessarily the lethal part of that rod, and if it is, nothing says futuristic earplugs would be visible. ne fan theory is that the Hands of Blue were put through a similar program to River, and the rob amplifies their psychic powers so they can kill people with their brains. The final River Tam session does show the interview choking, spasming, and collapsing dead without anyone touching him, but apparently caused by River...
xwingace: Going back to the soundwave theory, it's also possible that the sound is aimed through interference patterns (a phased sound source at each end of the rod), amplifying the vibrations in some sections and extinguising them in others. The rod could be designed such that there's a zone where the one holding it can stand where the sound is extinguished. Altough in that case there should also be areas in the room where victims survived because they were in another excinction zone. Although that might be remedied by moving the rod a little, of course.
And now someone who's actually a physicist instead of a chemist who caught this at a lecture can come along and laugh at me...
- What's going on with the Time Lords being wiped out?
Scifantasy: Three words:
Timey Wimey Ball.
Lale: The page is starting to look more like "Television Without Pity" than a media tropes wiki.
Pieguy259: Does that Just Bug You? *shave and a haircut, two bits*
Lale: The flooding back in my hometown coupled with my college removing long-distance in the dorms, leading to an inability to know how my family is right now, bugs me!
Fast Eddie: First of all:
Pieguy259, you are a genius for kicking this one off. Second of all ... I didn't really have a second thing. Except: @Lale, sorry for your troubles. I hope they are all well.
There's the semi-serious part of the wiki, and the
Just For Fun part of the wiki. The whole thing might lift people's spirits about things. Thar's why we does it.
Why do the Chaos Emeralds keep changing shape from game to game?
Tanto: What, you don't like the Chaos Cough Drops?
HeartBurn Kid: This is just off the top of my head, but it might be because they're the
Chaos emeralds. :)
Seven Seals: "Where does Optimus Prime's trailer go when he switches to robot mode?"
Hammerspace. I thought everyone knew that one.
Scrounge: This one's been done to death in
Transformers fandom.
Jokes about him losing it
are common. Personally, the answer I'll stick with is "You don't wanna know. Trust me."
- If The Heartless are called "heartless" because they don't have hearts, then why does a heart float off into the aether evey time one is slain?
Semi-Known Troper: Because the terms
heartless and
nobody have their expected meanings reversed: Heartless are hearts transformed by darkness, Nobodies are bodies without hearts. Alternativly, the hearts released are the stolen hearts of that Heartless' victiums.
(Six uses of
Heart in one paragraph...I hope they paid Billy Zane for each individual time he had to say it),
Ununnilium: Pretty sure that's not right.
Harpie Siren: "Those who
lack hearts... I will call them the Heartless." — Ansem Report 3,
Kingdom Hearts (emphasis mine).
Semi-Know Troper: Yes, its all a big, messy retcon between the two games to get the nobodies. If Xemnas is Xehanorts body and soul, with no heart, than his heartless (the imposter Ansem) is his morphed heart. I've heard that the spanish translation, which came later clarified this by changing heartless to something like 'Darkhearts'. Don't know if its true though.
Harpie Siren: Well then we've got a plot hole big enough to drive the Gummi Ship through...
How can the banker lady from Majora's Mask know how much money you have in your account when you go back in time?
Tanto: She stamps your account on your forehead. Yes, that's the real explanation.
The thing I found more disturbing about that whole situation is that mere minutes after discovering the unfathomable power of
Time Travel, Link's first instinct is to use it to commit bank fraud. I can't imagine any way this doesn't lead to the complete destabilization of the Clock Town economy, but I guess it still beats getting crushed by a falling moon.
I feel less bad about ripping off the lottery. They're paying 5:1 on 1000:1 odds, so really, who's cheating who?
Pro-Mole: I always thought she marked your forehead with a mark saying you have an account, not your actual number or rupees. That makes everything more clear...
Tanto: On a more serious note —
*waits for laughter to die down* — should we delete the things on this page that have real answers, like the Zelda thing above?
Ununnilium: If it's something that people really do ask often and isn't obvious, we should put the answer underneath, IMHO. If it's something that the person's only asking because they weren't paying attention, cut it. For instance, I'd cut the first
Azumanga Daioh one, but I'd put a note on the last
Sailor Moon one.
Andyroid:
- Why is Harry such a jackass from book five onwards?
I think it's a combination of the death of Cedric Diggory in
Goblet of Fire, and the whole Chosen One thing finally starting to get to him.
Scrounge: Did Harry even
know Cedric before then? Or are you just saying that watching someone die will do that to you?
Ununnilium: He's a teenager under ridiculous pressure.
Red Shoe: Same reason he's such a jackass from book four back. Harry's an insufferable prat.
Lale: Yeah, and if he weren't, people would call him a
Marty Stu. Harry's not a jerkass — he's human, and a teenager.
...whose soul does Rei herself have?
Looney Toons: That's answered — or at least strongly implied — in
Death and Rebirth. When Rei levitates up to Lilith, Lilith says, "Welcome back". The implication is that Rei's soul is Lilith's, or a fragment thereof.
"With all these things to pick on, why do Fan Dumb and Television Without Pity insist on picking on the things that are actually pretty good? Do they all suffer from some terribly low self-esteem and feel better by insulting people's ideas from the safe anonymity of the Internet? "
Man Called True: Most of the cases I've seen, yes. I personally find myself ripping into anything I can dig my nails into whenever my self-esteem dips low. (
Never discuss
Deathly Hallows with me.)
Lale: One of the downsides of the Net — people in bad moods can connect with other people in bad moods and feed and cultivate the negative energy until it builds up, festers, and takes over. And it's left there forever for you to revisit and to encourage others. Why do we do this to ourselves?
Tanto: Whine, whine.
Scrounge: Actually, the internet is secretly powered by that pink slime from
Ghostbusters 2. If there's not a strong enough negative charge, it shuts down. This is actually the backup generator too, since when people can't get to their porn and webcomics, a negative charge builds up that's strong enough to bring the net back to life.
- Whose bright idea was it to let celebrities like David Arquette and Master P actually participate in full-length wrestling matches, anyway?
HeartBurn Kid: Master P as a wrestler was thought up by Eric Bischoff, celebrity ass-kisser extraordinare. He was also behind bringing in Jay Leno and Dennis Rodman. The David Arquette run was forced on them by Time-Warner executives, who thought it'd be a good way to cross-promote the movie
Ready to Rumble; in their defense, though, putting the World Championship on him was either Vince Russo's or Tony Schiavone's idea, depending on who you ask (regardless, Russo still thought it was a good enough idea to go with, and defends it even to this day, so blame him).
- Why did they pitch Kim as the protagonist if she exists only to learn An Aesop, while Ron is the one who gets to shine and save the day? Why does the supposed protagonist never get to shine individually and get recognized in the present? Why not show some of those adventures where she saved the people who give her rides instead of recounting them later? Why can't the capable, strong one get the spotlight? And how, then, can people still like this so much?
- Re: This editor doesn't know what Kim Possible the guy above was watching. The Aesops Kim learns generally have to deal with her social life, not illustrating shortcomings in her heroic career. In Duff Killigan's introductory episode, she beat down the villain and proved herself twice the hero that Agent Will Du was. She then agrees to let Bonnie have a shot at leading the cheerleading squad—whereupon, Bonnie immedieately proves not up to the job. Kim is almost always the one going toe-to-toe with the villains, she has saved the day countless times. She also happens to be a character with flaws such as arrogance, worrying about her image, etc. Kim needs her team behind her, but that doesn't in the slightest make her a Faux Action Girl.
Wiki: The first is a bit whiney, even for this thing, and how bout limiting those questions? The second is simply another fan firing back. Be nice to avoid being overly argumentative outside the discussion page. Let's not forget that this is a
Just For Fun.
- The Jedi can levitate an X-Wing; why can't they levitate themselves? Given all the mile-deep pits in the Star Wars universe, it'd be awfully handy...
- Re: Um, they kinda can, it's just in the form of a Force-powered leap (e.g., Luke in the carbonite machine, off the plank on Jabba's barge, etc.) In fact, Obi-Wan did use this to escape from the "Lucas Pit" during the Darth Maul fight, (Maybe they can only levitate themselves a little compared to an X-Wing, but can do it in a more explosive burst.)
Scrounge: I'd think trying to move around that way, especially when you have two functional legs dangling under you, would just feel awkward. Plus, walking around normally probably requires less concentration.
Why do they even believe in monsters, anyway? As far as I know, they usually only encountered crooked land developers.
Tanto: My guess would be all the drugs.
- Why does Katara get so much better at waterbending than Aang at the end of Season 1, when in The Waterbending Scroll he was demonstrated to be much better at it than she was?
Scifantasy: Aang may have raw talent, but he doesn't study—even when he's learning from Pakku. Katara, on the other hand, is the studious type. She was already studying when they were still traveling; with that kind of work ethic, she can make great strides, especially with Pakku's eventual help. Not to mention, when in trouble, Katara waterbends. Aang's default reaction is to airbend—well, it was certainly his nature at that point. Nothing strengthens your skill like necessity.
- Why the elaborate traps? Shouldn't four healthy teenagers and a gigantic dog be able to take down an old man in a rubber suit just by tackling him? Scrappy had the right idea, grow some cojones, Mystery Inc.
- TJ Devil 02: First off, Shaggy and Scooby are too freaked out by the monster to want to get within 20 feet of him. Fred has delusions of grandeur and would rather construct an elaborate trap than use direct action. Daphne, of course, is Fred's girlfriend (not to mention The Ditz) and just agrees with him. Velma can see that these plans are stupid, but by this point she's the Helpless Smart Person in a Comic Trio with Fred and Shaggy, so she just plays along.
Viewtiful Jeff: You're looking too deeply into it, TJ. Fred doesn't want to get his ascot dirty.
- And why does everyone give that horrid little brat Flim-Flam from The Thirteen Ghosts of Scooby Doo a free pass in comparison?
- Scrounge: Many of us have nver seen said brat in action. From the sounds of it though, I'll be perfectly happy to let it stay that way.
- Viewtiful Jeff: Trust me, as someone who saw Thirteen Ghosts, you're better off that way.
- Splatter: I seem to recall a pair of evil Scrappies on that show as well... Nonetheless, I, personally, actually liked 13 Ghosts; Partially because it contained the one Scooby episode that ever actually scared me: The one where the ship goes through the fog, and when it comes out, it's a shipwreck, and all the passengers are zombies. Anyone remember that one?
HeartBurn Kid: You know, we've got discussion of the sticking points in two places; under the entires on the actual page, and here on the discussion page. I think that such matters should be left for this page, myself, but what do you guys think? Either way, we should eventually consolidate it all in the same place.
Man Called True: On the Mai/Gen-in connection: Wikipedia and this page says the
Word Of God says they're not related. A friend of mine who knows everything SNK-connected imaginable says the
Word Of God says they are.
I don't know who to trust!
Pro-Mole: Given some unnamed troper simply erased my question, there comes one thing that really bugs me and I can't manage to find a direct answer anywhere: why the hell is Adam West depicted as a damn lunatic in any cartoon parody(and maybe non-cartoon too) ever made?!
- Why does Yuki draw risk drawing attention to herself by acting in an obviously un-human manner where outsiders can observe her? The other known entity of her kind seems perfectly capable of blending in and adopting the manner of a popular schoolgirl.
- My guess is because she's honest. The other Human Interfaces are just acting like they have emotions; an elaborate charade. Yuki doesn't want to lie to Kyon. Plus she really does want to understand what being a human and having emotions is like; and pretending would get in the way of truly understanding. Note that Kyon trusts her more than anyone else because of her honesty and loyalty. The other, more "human-acting" Interfaces creep him out.
- The fourth novel, The Disappearance of Suzumiya Haruhi has Kyon theorise that the Data Itegration Thought Entity believed that Haruhi would be more likely to drag Yuki into SOS-dan if she was the cliched literature-club member that she resembled. Kyon feels that Yuki has been rather hard done by in this respect, and deserves the chance for better interpersonal skills.
Sikon: (From the
Mai-Otome section) "The answer varies depending on the medium. If it's the manga, then yes (it's stated outright by the Big Bad that the current planet is Earth, and he also mentions the events of the Mai-Hi ME manga). The anime, however, is more ambigious. " <— So, is the planet explicitly called Earl, or a colony world, in the manga?
Shay Guy: Figured this was getting a little too unwieldy for the main page.
- Why is Mahora Academy a girls' school? And I don't mean the real-life reason, which is A) it's Akamatsu and B) it's supposed to look like a harem series at first glance.
- It isn't. There are male student minor characters and extras all over the place.
- a) I haven't noticed any, b) there are none in Negi's class, c) I distinctly recall Asuna telling Negi that it was a girls' school in volume 1, d) Wikipedia refers to the class as "Mahora Girls' Jr. High Class 2/3-A." (Are we miscommunicating?)
- a) They're in just about every "mass rush to school" scene. Kotaro even enrolled into the elementary school. Which brings me to: b, c and d) Mahora is made up of several schools, from preschool to university. Chizuru works at the preschool 'cause she likes kids, Kotaro and Nutmeg attend the elementary, the vast majority of the cast is in the Jr. High, Takane and the Dodgeball girls are from the high school, and Hakase works with the university Robotics Club because she's just that good. When Mahora is listed as an Elaborate University High, we mean it.
- Further to the above, why were Evangeline and Konoka put in the same class, and why is every other crazy-type female within exty miles in that same class?
- Who says that's all of them?
- I don't even want to think of that being a typical proportion.
- Haven't you been reading the School Festival arc? 3-A is far from being the only "odd" class at that Academy.
First, some explanation. I've been reading one book per week, and when I was on here asking these questions, I had only read volume 8. Nine's done now, meaning I'm into the School Festival arc
now, and I've read about Kotaro joining the elementary school.
On the gender separation thing, I understand the whole Mahora-blob is K-doc, and presume that genders are separated at one or more levels? Meaning there's a Mahora Boys' Jr. High...so at what levels are they split, and why? Just 6-12? And did Del Rey just goof a little (as usual) on Asuna's dialogue?
Twin Bird: "Of course [Yasuna from Kashimashi] being a lesbian has more of a social stigma, but whatever."
Um...what does this spoil, exactly? I'm removing the tag.
Lale: "Sasuke of
Naruto, Zuko of
Avatar, Kaiba of
Yu-Gi-Oh, Edo and Manjyome of GX,
The Lancer of each season of
Digimon... there's a pattern here of which character in anime ends up the
Ensemble Darkhorse/
Draco In Leather Pants. What's the secret?! Besides being
loners and
"bad boys," what do they have in common?! And does anyone know of a show where this character type
is the main protagonist?
- Maybe just they've just got one foot in the Dark-Side already (philosophically speaking), so they're an easy target." Huh?
Scrounge: I'm guessing it's "characters of questionable moral fiber are more likely to slum it with whoever the shippers want them to," but that's just a shot in the dark.
Lale: What I'm referring to has nothing to do with shipping. Fangirls aside, viewers like me like the
character, not the
person (I know, not a real person, but I need a word to differentiate), but when I think of all the reasons why I like the character, I realize we'd hate
The Hero if he was like that. Why doesn't this character type work as
The Hero? Has it ever, and I've just never seen it?
Sikon: Concerning the ending of Evangelion.
From my understanding, Anno always intended to film episode 25 as the first half of EOE portrayed it (note how many
Chekhov's guns are used there), but the limited budget didn't allow it, so the final episode 25 of the TV series ended up mostly as a "filler" episode repeating what we already know, as well as introducing Shinji's "mind cage".
Then there was
Evangelion: Death and Rebirth, which introduced the first half of EOE (the "real" episode 25).
That was what caused the fan outrage and death threats shown in EOE itself. And
that is when Anno became enraged and reworked the second half into a
Kill Em All ending.
So now we're left to guess what would constitute the "real" episode 26. The TV series episode 26, in contrast with EOE, isn't really "bleak"; it doesn't say what Instrumentality
is, so it may not have originally intended to be "everyone reduced to LCL" ending. The two optimistic scenes, namely the "alternate universe" scene and the "everyone applauding to Shinji" scene, were clearly made before they ran out of budget, as they're basically the only well-drawn parts of episode 26.
But then, since they admitted that they made many things up as they went along, maybe they didn't have any specific ending planned, and ended it "as properly as the circumstances would allow".
As for me, I have firmly placed EOE in
Dis Continuity and developed an interpretation of episodes 25-26 in which they "live happily ever after". But that's just me.
Tanto: Fuck it, my edit isn't going through, so I'm posting it here. All must hear!
- Two words: Soul Society. What's the deal? Yes, it's the "afterlife", but its portrayal in the story is in no way consistent with such an explanation. People evidently are born, mature, and die there (Rukia and Renji grew from children to adults; Kira prays at his parents' grave before going to the shinigami academy in a flashback episode), and they seem to have families that are completely independent of the world of the living. Plus, Soul Society, large as it is, is still just one city. You're telling me that every single person who's ever died (minus the people who are sent to hell) is living there? And for that matter, why aren't there any people there who aren't Japanese (besides Soifon, I guess)? Do all the other cultures get their own Soul Societies or something? And what's with the ghetto/caste system? Can you imagine cacking it at age 93 and waking up in the 80th district?
Later: Okay, it's in now.
- "Why didn't Happosai try to make girl-Ranma wear a bra after he used the Moxibustion technique on him.
- Being Happosai, he probably decided it would be more fun to watch her run around without one.
- Yeah, that or since he was doing it to get revenge he may have preferred to just see Ranma in pain the whole time (P.S. the one time we saw girl Ranma that whole time he just groped her and ran off)"
Scrounge Being male, I have to ask... Does it really hurt that much to not wear a bra? I'm guessing the answer is no, but I'm gonna let someone else tell me rather than do somethign that'll wind up turning my life into a bad sitcom.
Morgan Wick: Completely un-serious and ignorable explanation: The impact of a breast bouncing off the chest is like taking a punch there. (cue crickets)
Zeke: My understanding — necessarily secondhand — is that it depends mostly on size. Many women are perfectly comfortable without bras, but that gets less likely as cup size increases. Any female tropers around to confirm or deny?
Seth: The Neon Genesis Evangelion bit was larger than most wiki pages - i cut it all to
Neon Genesis Evangelion to cut down on size.
Fast Eddie: Yup, This one is slaughtering the server. Looks like it needs to be broken up by series/subject like
WMG. Tech-y explanation: The page as-is is around 170KB of data. When it shows up on recent changes, it gets about 300 nearly-consecutive request for display. (Most online readers are silent.) The 300 requests are from folks that are hip to using the "history" click, so that means we get a sudden requirement on the diff utility to compare and markup the changes. It takes time to compare 170KB against 170KB, especially when you are getting less than 1/300 of the processor's time to do so. —- The scenario is just all bad. Bogs down everything, even things unrelated to Just Bugs Me that are occurring at the same time (edits, other diffs, plain page reads, etc.).
So, either a
WMG-style split, or chopping by some other approach (ie. "Part II" ) is called for.
Seth: The WMG system seems to be working. I'd go with that.
Octal: So what's the WMG system? It looks like one big page to me.
Seven Seals: Alright, what just happened? The page was redirected and my edits were eaten in the process.
Wait, I just answered my own question. Alright, what I meant was: why did that happen?
Fast Eddie: Woops. Did you get caught in the transfer? Sorry about that. You can cut-n-paste from the history to the new home of
It Just Bugs Me. //afterthought: Um, read the discussion a few lines up.
Seven Seals: I did. I was too dim to understand why moving the page to its own "directory" helps, though. But now I see this is all part of a Cunning Plan to break up the whole thing into itty bitty subpages, and for that it apparently needs to be moved itself. Hm.
Getting at the page history actually proved to be a little difficult with the redirect in place, but I managed. Rest assured that my comments
will not go unheard. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have a noun to verb.
- Note: "It Just Bugs Me" is intended for discussion of FRIDGE LOGIC.
Why is
Fridge Logic unsuitable for discussion of fridge logic?
What if what you want to complain about doesn't fit any of those pages? —
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Mr Guy: I would like a WMG for IJBM, just as there is an IJBM for WMG. Worthwhile?
Kenb215: It took a few days, but I just finished properly indexing all of the JBM pages.
Antwan: Hey,
Sierra has it's own main page, but the IJBM article for it is Sierra Games. Is there anyway we can change the name to Sierra?
Pro-Mole: Should we organize Real Life's contents into some other folders? I find quite jarring that "Wikipedia" and "
Deviant Art" are listed as "Real Life"...
