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Lv K: It's worth noting that pro wrestling fans (and most workers/promoters) never call them "heel face turns" or "face heel turns". The terms are simply "face turn" and "heel turn".
Rogue 7: So, who unspoilered Zuko's example? That's a fairly plot-critical reveal, and I distinctly remember this bit being spoilered earlier. Was there some sort of consensus? Because if not, I'll respoiler it later.
Tanto: I didn't do it, but it's more than a year old as I recall. I figure anyone who wants to see it by now has.
Charred Knight: I respoilered it because its a plot twist that isn't It Was His Sled. I also deleted a Captain Obvious addition. It was obvious what Zuko was planning to do, the plot twist is that he didn't do it.
zero29: Already stated that in the Face Heel Turn Discussion. I don't think Vegeta's constantly changing his alignment, cause he always stays true to his values power, ego and later family. From the beginning to the end game he has no problems with hurting innocents with Super Mega Death Kill attacks in fights, cause as non-saijan they are vermin anayway. Well at least he later accepts some sort of right to exist for non-saijan beings unless they are not in his way, so that could count for one Heel Face Turn. But not more.
nobodyspecial: I find it highly surprising that the episode of The Simpsons where Sideshow Bob is genuinely trying to help Bart and Lisa but gets arrested anyway isn't mentioned.
Deux Hero:How about the "join with yesterdays enemy..." from Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann for a page quote?
One Post Wonder: Would Saul/Paul fall under literature as an example from The Bible or real life as the person actually existed?
On second thought, my sources for Saul existing in real life aren't all that trustworthy. Anyone better at roman history that can handle this one?
Richard AK: That's a touchy subject, and there's a very real chance I'll offend some people's religious sensibilities with this answer, for which I apologize, but here goes: It depends what you mean by someone existing in real life. Are there any contemporaneous extra-Biblical references to Paul? No. Does that mean no one authored the Pauline Epistles and they just appeared of thin air? No, obviously someone must have written them, and since Paul was not that person's given name in any case, but rather the name he, by his own account, took for himself (it means small, or, in this context, insignificant), can one reasonably call that author Paul? Yes, for what else would one call him? Was the rest of the account of his own life that he presented in his writings accurate? Well, let's put it this way: it is far more likely that a virgin became pregnant, that her son later raised a man from the dead and subsequently rose from the dead himself than that the author of the Pauline Epistles was descended from the tribe of Benjamin, that he also came from a long line of pharisees, or that he had at any time been a student of Rabban Gamliel.
Richard AK: I removed the Lee Atwater example, because the claim that "his own opinion here speaks for itself" is simply not the case when one considers that he was dying of an extremely aggressive brain tumor that was almost certainly affecting his judgment.
BritBllt: Okay, moving and editing this bit...
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